Are video games art? If so, name one

I don't get it, what do these two mean?

noooooo stop them mr trump

video games aren't art (and that's ok).

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>Are video games art?
Yes, any creative work made with the explicit purpose of influencing emotion is art.
>If so, name one
Name one videogame? Minesweeper.

vidya kino

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The messiah is going to hide his divinity while all of you weakling rats are lead astray by fakes.

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With some tweaking, this game could have been fine art.

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lol no way is this dude catholic why's the pope portrayed as a good guy

pls don't post the edited version, OP

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... the fuck are you talking about you dune coon?
We await Rapture.

p sure hillary would have declared war on iran by now but whatever

christians are the ones that will be lead astray by fakes since they already literally believe that god is a human being. So when the anti-christ comes and do wonders, you'll all follow him instantly.

But the people of Truth will recognize the trickery by the false man-god and instead join the army of al-Mahdi al-muntathar and the real Jesus.

yeah, which would be fucking stupid.
Best to just let the agreed upon saber rattling continue and avoid a stupid conflict.

Catholocism is actually the one true religion. If you're simply Christian, you better hope you are a worthy soul when judgement arrives. Corrupt people don't corrupt the foundation.

No, you await the false man-god that will perform amazing tricks and deceive you.

> Loli is a demon, no faggot

>Hitler, Osama bin Laden, Lenin, Marx, and fucking Stalin witnessed the death of Christ.

Fucking hell what even is this man? Expensive Political cartoon shit?

He’s actually a Mormon.

the point im making is im not sure why she's carrying the iranian flag. this guy is bonkers

The crying isn't necessarily indicative of being a good guy in this genre of image. Sometimes crying indicates shame/repentance, or despair at realizing Jesus is "about to win" and your plans were for nothing.

Art is a subjective concept, so anyone else's answer doesn't matter.

and the point im making here is that this shit is protestant tacky, not catholic tacky which is a whole other thing

nth for the hidden imam

>ARGENTINA IS WHIIIIIITE at the background
Top kek.

>good presentation for retards
>ez retard mode level design so everyone never gets lost and gets to the set pieces properly
>le "ayn rand bad" story/plot/art for leftypol
>le "moral choice" for little sisters
>le iconic big daddy "so nerdy xd steampunk rox" aesthetic
It feels llike art but its too bad the gameplay/gunplay are like 6/10.

something like Tetris is art. Not some waterer down linear shooter.

user you know that's a honduran flag right

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meanwhile in reality

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I guess I know it now.
Could be israel's too.
But in my mind it'll always be Argentina, because that's funnier.

I think this one is Jesus bringing back to life all the heroes of the past to see modern America. The people on the left are "good" Americans, and the people there on the right are examples of corrupted degenerated Americans.
This one looks like the typical "Jesus dying for your sins" stuff, but with all these controversial people in the background, and the man in the suit stopping Jesus and making a "hold up" sign to everyone behind him, I'd say the message is "Jesus shouldn't have died for your sins" or something.

in my mind doom and quake are artistic masterpieces. sf3 third strike as well now that i think about it. maybe ffxii, i dunno

A video game would be art if it was just moving a pixel through a space. Art and visuals are orthogonal to each other faggot.

Based!

>for leftypol
only american retards have any respect for ayn rand

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this is art

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I'm just not going to vote 2020

It's still bible thumping crap, no matter how expensive the canvas.

Rainworld.

S-SHUT UP

Unless Yang is the Democrat's canidate, me either.

Why goy, are you not satisfied with the choices we give you?

Why would you vote for a redditor commie

Fixed for you, nigro

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Undertale and nier automata are not only art, but a concept that could only BE executed as video games.

Boomer fan art thread?

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The second one is just replacing the crowd that literally would have watched Jesus carry the cross with a metaphorical crowd representing all of human history. Like the traditional crowd, there are some hecklers, some sympathetic faces who nevertheless do not intervene, some humbled in repentance, etc, based on the artists' opinion of those figures. The man in the suit is the man who, in the biblical narrative, was the only one to offer the wounded Jesus help to carry his cross. He's dressed in modern clothes instead of historically-appropriate ones continues the metaphor, to emphasize the fact that you should follow his example instead of thinking of him as a single person in a single time in a single place.

Yang is the best bipartisan choice who isn't riding on this modern political warhawk train of "us vs them". Plus $1k a month on top of what I earn at my job is a nice thing. Democrats are only going to wanna fight Trump until he's pulp, and Republicans are too scared to pick anyone not Trump.

video games are only art if played by an artist
it is otherwise entertainment and propaganda in the hands of those who lack prerequisite knowledge to benefit from the experience.

Where's the anime girl edit of this?

>pregnancy the right arm of the huge demon
You mean you DON'T want to start a happy family with your tomboy? What are you, gay?

>pictures are art
>moving pictures are art
>music is art
>stories are art
>mash it all together and make it interactive
>suddenly not art
never understood that

>literally only care about climate change
>not even the fucking democrats acknowledged it during the debate

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darn thats a good point.
Anime girl soldiers kneeling before Jesus would be neat

>Are video games art? If so, name one.
Pathologic

Rain World

>pay $2k a month to receive $1k a month and give $1k to a fat fuck who can't get a job
wowie, good job mr yang
inb4 retards think it'll come from the top """1%""", um no sweetie, it'll come from your pocket

What even is this meme about? Who actually goes "I'm going to waste my youth raising screaming entitled toddlers who take all my money"?

Fuck kids, I'm saving my money and dying rich.

How do you unironically draw something like this without your face caving in from the stupidity

>Roman Soldier and Samurai kneeling to Jesus

Because its a bloody scam they force into you. Ever wonder why even the "Green" parties dont do jack shit against mass immigration (which creates unsustainable population growth and depletes the land) Or take any REAL action against china (the number 1 polluter)
The earth climate changes a bit naturally.
Global cooling became global warming became climate change.
Its all an effort to punish businesses who do not tow party lines and ruin national; self sufficiency. Rely on the 'global' market goys, nothing bad will ever happen.

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Whatever, you got a better person mr Genius, or is Mr. Maga man going to save us?

That’s more of a problem with socialist policy rather than UBI.

UBI is more of an inevitability of automation, not some utopian “equality” bullshit.

You just do what every other shitty political cartoonist does, think about the money people pay for it, and call it a day. All they want is something to galvanize their opinions, not art.

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Bioshock Infinite

Rome converted and there actually were alot of Christian samurai. Hideyoshi just had an autistic fit and purged them in a civil war, undoing much of Nobunagas reforms in the process.

>My father never loved me the post

These

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Every videogame has an art component but that doesn't mean the game is a whole piece of art itself.

This. Again, making $2k a month, plus $1k on top sounds nice.

And he's the ONLY fucking person not playing the "us vs them" meme that's been making everything shit lately.

My family loves me fine. I just don't understand how some snot dribbling, screeching devil child is supposed to make everything """better""".

You want to deal with all that fucking pain? Go right the FUCK ahead, I'm going to live quiet and happy.

No its bloody not.
UBI will always fail, if for no other reason then the people who own the automated producers will wonder why the fuck they are even paying for do nothing parasites to exist.

The Ideal, is de-industrilization. Not in the luddite, hippy way. But large industries breaking into smaller, more local ones. FAR easier to start up a new business with machines than with workers due to unreliability and benefits required.

Thats idealistic though, in truth, we have no bloody idea how it will pan out in the future.

>Ice-Pick Lodge
My African Brothers

B-bashed and redbilled!!! K-kek!!!

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we're talking about cute 2D daughterus here user-kun

Art: 1. the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form.

Yes user. They are all art and always have been.

how about a corrupt video game that is incredibly good

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>Comparing Trump to Jesus
You do realize that this is Heresy right?

>Thief, Yume, Majora, Icos, RE
Interesting picks. What is the top-left one?

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undertale

>Interesting picks. What is the top-left one?
Not him, but that would be The Void I believe.
Its from the same people who made Pathologic. I actually enjoy it more than Pathologic desu.

Tell that to Trump Gen

>the sneaky palpatine guy's face of fear and discomfort
funny

>Pathologic
>SOTC
>Ico
>Planescape: Torment
Excellent picks, but what is top center?

Unironically he is doing his best.
The only spammed argument against him is jewish tokenism, which EVERY politician has to do, or the fact he has not tossed out EOs like candy like obama did.
He has had both wings against him since the start, and only in the last election got real supporters in (alot of established rebs lost to new rebs) and shocked the rest into falling in line.
If he did the EO flood then they would use it as an excuse to move against him, perhaps even overuling the EOs in such a way as to label them unconstitutional meaning such ideas or proposals could NEVER be brought up again. Its a slow, careful game.

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>What is the meaning of this painting? This painting has over 100 figures, both good and bad, men and women that have left their footprint on Christianity. The man in the middle represents the modern Christian…a man who must decide whether or not he will stand up for his Christian beliefs. Many are shouting out to tell him what to do. He raises his hand to say, “Be silent, for I know that Jesus is the Christ!” He touches Jesus’ shoulder to indicate that he gets his strength from the Master. Today, Christians are the most persecuted people in the entire world. Yet many of us stand idly by as we are mocked and persecuted for what we know to be true. As true Christians, we must not fear to speak the truth, even if it means we have to stand alone in the world. What does the title of the painting mean? “Via Dolorosa” are the Latin words for “Way of Suffering” and is the name for the traditional road in which Christ carried his cross to Calvary.

Sid Meier's Civilization® - Second Coming of Jesus Christ DLC

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Actually it's an anime girl solider instead of Jesus, so the troops are bowing to her

Video games are art, such as pic related

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He spoke against identity politics once, then went right into saying whites are privileged and need to contribute more. Fuck him.

This is you on teenage hormones. Once you're past 30 you realize most stuff you can buy for money doesn't even begin to make you happy and you start looking for more important things.
Also the screaming devil child grows up eventually and unless you fuck up tremendously you gain yourself a friend/ally for the rest of your life.

Some games are art, and some aren't I feel
Street Fighter 3 2nd Impact, and I'd say all sprite based Street Fighter games are art

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>Today, Christians are the most persecuted people in the entire world.
Why do Christians have such a persecution complex?

>n-no you're the shill, goy-I mean guy.
Nice try rabbi.

Well no fuck that I'm not dealing with that chunk. You do know not everyone agrees at all right? Like they're humans that can fuck up bad, sometimes really bad. What then? Abandon them?

Also no past 30 I'm not going to magically go "Yeah screeching, tantrums are GOOD for my fee fees"

You're just fucking conditioned by a world that tells you to keep making humans for the sake of it, rather than really sitting down and asking "is this REALLY what I need?" People who randomly decide to have kids almost NEVER lead decent lives unless they're already super rich, or have boomer parents. Most likly it's just endless dead end jobs to keep everything floating and hope your cum dumpling doesn't fuck up as bad and magically makes it, so you can leech off of them.

Seriously, no, I am not ever doing to think dealing with constant crying or screaming is a GOOD thing for my mental state. I'd sooner be roommates with a serial killer.

yume nikki

He's simply stating a fact.

Reality time, because like most white people that are either hardline right wingers, or boomers, they feel like they once OWNED the world. But then had to be forced to share and be nice with everybody.

Most Christians like the forgiving, nice Jesus. Some prefer fire and brimstone God.

As pornography: Nope

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PRESERVING HISTORY

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You're absolutely blind if you cant see the absolute disgust modern scholars and media personalities treat Christians with.
You'll never see them show such disdain towards Muslims, Jews or Buddhists.
t. not even a Christian

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I kind of agree with Nietzsche when he said that there only ever was one true christian and he died on the cross.

No it's easy to understand if you remember History, and The Catholic Church of all things once being a legitimate Super power.

Kings, Lords, hell even Emperors bowed to the whims of the Church in most things. A couple hated it, but it was a majority religion so you didn't want to be risking excommunication.

Muslims kept to the Desert, Jews were already stomped on throughout history, and no one ever gave a shit about Buddhists.

Considering how there are so many churchs that turned religion into a business, there is a lot to be disgusted with in regards to Christianity.

Yes.
Tetris. Pac-man if I can name two.
The craft of games comes with the systems, not with the visuals. A video game is a machine.

>No it's easy to understand if you remember History, and The Catholic Church of all things once being a legitimate Super power.
>Kings, Lords, hell even Emperors bowed to the whims of the Church in most things. A couple hated it, but it was a majority religion so you didn't want to be risking excommunication.
And the break-up of the Church somehow made Christianity even more insane.

Define art. If the definition excludes games, you'll find it excludes other mediums that qualify as art.

Christianity has killed and oppressed countless people for two thousand years. Christians deserve to be mocked for their beliefs.

>B-b-but what about Muslims

And so do Muslims. Doesn’t mean Christians get a free pass to be shitty.

Bascially. Didn't help that certain parts of recent history didn't sit well with the youth culture.

>Rock and Roll is popular, the Church hates it, so Timmy doesn't get to enjoy Elvis
>Video games are popular, the Church hates it, so Timmy doesn't get to play Pacman
>People enjoying Cons are disgusting, let's get loud people to always protest it
>Bible Belt family finds out one of them is secretly gay, and hang him in the forest, or outcast him/her with nothing.
>Church concerned people made sure movies were always clean and nothing else until the 1960s made movies interesting again.

I mean it's just what it is. It's certainly not persecution, just the children of dealing with that sit growing up, what a shock, resentful of Religion in general because of these stories and experiences. So at best they either become laid back Christians that don't dwell on it, or outright slam on it for causing so much drama and problems.

Islam was never really a problem until the British and French fucked them 100 years ago for Imperial reasons. Jews weren't a focus until Germany mechanized death. And nobody cares about Buddists since they're just Religious hippies.

She's a tsundere for Iran because war means money and she loves money (and dead white men)

Based

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>Thief
>IPL
Holy f**king based

The Pope selling indulgences for fun and profit in Europe centuries ago has nothing to with the genocide of Coptic Christians in Egypt. I'm a huge fedora and I am not a fan of the say the concerns of everyday Christians are completely ignored and dismissed.

Why do evangelist try to marry Americana with hardcore Christianity? Trump is not a religious man in fact he was borderline contemptuous of it prior to running for president (big coincidence). Washington straight up mocked the bible and tore segments of it because he did not believe in the supernatural. Where do these people draw the idea that these people revered Christ at all?

Art is a meanimgless term.

If something holds meaning to you it doesn't matter if its "art" or not, just enjoy it.

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>Art is a meanimgless term.
No it is not you mouth breathing retard. Art is defined as man made artifice.

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The mythology of "The City on the Hill" permeates deeply through the American consciousnesses, in explicitly religious ways like this, and in secular ways like the term "Leader of the Free World" or SJWs casually dismissing the politics of every other country in favor of imposing their own everywhere. It's all evangelical.

mountvernon.org/george-washington/religion/8-facts-about-george-washington-and-religion/

because the religious have too much power in america

Says who, you? Most people on Yea Forums just care about calling stuff they like art so they appear more sophisticated.

not every painting is art
not every movie is art
not every song is art
not every vidya is art
don't give a fuck about the libies saying that everything is art, it isn't

DOOM is art.

>white jesus

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>Washington straight up mocked the bible and tore segments of it because he did not believe in the supernatural.
I thought that it was Jefferson that did that.

Both of them owned deist bibles. Which the bible says straight up condemns to eternal suffering.

we wuz dick washas n shiet nigga

Was waiting for someone to post this version

no you name one that isn't art

It's art, but not high art because it is not even close to using the full potential the media can offer.
Games are pretty much still on the cave paint stage, and some assholes keep smearing shit on it because "cave art needs smell"

Owning a deist bible isn't grounds for eternal suffering, creating one is. Jefferson would be on the hook for creating the Jeffersonian Bible, but Washington wouldn't necessarily also be (unless he also made his own and I'm just unaware.)

Catholics aren't Christians they're pagans who don't even follow the Bible's teachings. Good job following a tradition of pederasty, rape, and indulgences. You filthy fucking sheep.

Shadow of the Colossi to name one but for "pure" fun I'd go with something like Ace Combat for the PS1

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>Hitler and Nero cheering on Jesus
>Napoleon showing great concern
>Marx, Lenin, and Stalin being combative assholes
>Some Boomer in the back screaming about the Bible to Jesus himself
>The pope crying
>Random Jew picking up shekels off the ground
>Satan skulking next to Osama and

My sister can't possibly have a hemeriod !?

Marx imo seems to be giving him some encouraging words.

This is a really good answer

What is art?

the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance.

dictionary.com/browse/art

Our world is full of things that be considered art.

>deist bible

What's that?

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Unironically, Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days

>Gameplay gets progressively more annoying, due to damage sponge enemies
>Repetitious
>Theme is about hating your job and wanting to hang with your friends, but you cling to what you have as it all falls apart

The movie version of the game doesn't have the same weight. You're not being rewarded with Clock Tower scenes after a shitty day's work.

That's a story that exists at its best in vidya form. And that's the only game I can consider art.

>FAR easier to start up a new business with machines than with workers due to unreliability and benefits required.
I'm not trying to pick a fight but won't the startup costs of that machinery for the small business make it neigh impossible for small business to start up in a majority automated age. The way I personally see it (and correct me if im wrong) most starters (at least in the status quo and the future) would require some benefactor who of course would take some equity rinse and repeat until you have a large virtually national lender to start small businesses. In the end, they would either specialize (biggest lender in food services, lumber, computing,etc.) or you basically have a massive economic state of loaners or banks refilling itself with money from equity and interest just to be lent out to the next small business.

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Things that make you feel awe & wonder at life and what's out there just beyond the horizon,but these days it's filled with "people" who've entirely missed that point inf favor of being special & sensational for big $$$

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You cut out any supernatural event and miracle that happens in the bible.

Honestly after watching the Dem Debates this is how I perceive the left.

An accurate representation of america would be tearing apart other flags and putting into an american flag.

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>Hey Napoleon, you see this shit?

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Because America was settle in part of fundamentalist christians who felt they were being persecuted in Europe because they weren't getting special treatment.

Meh, lame.

Why do born-again Christians support a godless man like Trump?

for american christinas wealth is god

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>for american christinas wealth is god
Something Something Rich man, eye of needle

BUT MUH JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES!!!!!!
WESTERN CIVILISATION IS DYING!!!!!!!!!

because america is filled with asshole who want to do what ever the fuck they want;reardless of who or what gets hurt along the way and not deal with the consequences. Trump is the living embodiment of that dream.

>godless

for what it's worth I had a dream that painted him in the same light Nobunaga so take that as you will,he's certainly been different then past presidents

>trump
>praying
??????????

Final Fantasy VII
God of War trilogy
Minecraft
Murder Dog

The fuck you are talking about. Muslims gets mocked all the time. And they get violent because of it

Jews dont get it because money

Buddhists suffer from thew Orientalist problem of "hurr durr its from the East so it knows something we don't"

>for what it's worth I had a dream that painted him in the same light Nobunaga
>Americans

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you have a whole sect of christian think here in America that boils down to; wealth and success = gods love. Which means if you truly love god with all your heart, he'll reward you with material wealth and prosperity. And the best way to show you love is by giving pastor, precher or congregation a hefty sum of your money. Because in the end god will return the favor, eventually.

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>he doesn't know the difference between art and entertainment

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Why is Stephen King looking so smug?

That trash is the most gauche shit I've ever seen, come back with some art before requesting any.

Where's his Russian flag?

Yeah, it takes some doing to be that corrupt and get away with it.

Death Stranding.
You can tell just by the cutscenes that even if the gameplay ends up not being good, the story itself will be extremely creative and artistic.

American christians are just as violent when their retarded beliefs are mocked really. And more importantly they encourage and enforce their beliefs which have severe negative consequences on those around them.
Can't say the same shit about muslims living in western societies because they hold no influence over culture or anything else.
The reason they aren't mocked as much is because we haven't had to deal with their dogmatic shit for as long and as a minority they represent a lesser problem than christians or parties do.

>Christians persecute Jews for centuries
>Don't even have the same religion
>"Judeo-Christian values"
What the fuck happened?

support israel against the dirty mudslimes goy

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I'm not even /pol/, but America's unwavering support for Israel for little to no reason kind of disgusts me.

>little to no reason
ho ho ho

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ok retard.

They're the only democracy in the middle east and America's most valuable ally you stupid antisemite

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There's a permanent vidya exhibit in the NYC MoMA, which is a world-renowned art gallery, so all those games there are art
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_in_the_Museum_of_Modern_Art

Get fucked, christcuck.

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this is your brain on mormonism

That image is right, why does no one here talks about the wikileaks CIA cases where they openly talk about dirtying Trump's name by associating him with jews?

So like, do you think that 97% of climate scientists are wrong or lying?

Somma. I had never watched read or heard anything like that game. There are various examples. The witcher 3 has great writing, it was more or less like the books.

Final Fantasy 7, MGS 1, Team ICO Games too name a few that shat out of my brain

>self-sufficency is the key to a nation's prosperity
anyone that thinks this is a simple clear-cut argument is being stupid. First, no reasonable definition of "self-sufficiency" comes close to providing "basic needs" - whatever that means - because what a state considers basic continuously expands, and the ability of a nation to continuously produce all necessary resources diminishes, or was always downright impossible (good luck being technologically self-sufficient if your country doesn't have much aluminum, or silicon, or gold.) Second, this argument exists in a world where division of labor and specialization it's taken into account. The whole point of trading being a win-win is that someone makes the stuff you don't want to or can't and you do the same for another thing and then you trade. The more "self-sufficiency" a state enforces, the less it has incentive to trade and/or benefit from trade it has; this is an enormous loss. Then the fucking picture blames a bunch of shit on lack of self-sufficiency and claims this leads to urbanization which causes debt. This is fucking stupid. The debt is caused by unfunded liabilities in medical aid and welfare benefits and war. That's most of the debt of any country in the western world; China i don't know.

back to /pol/ you go

why the fuck would I be from that containment board, user? i'm not the degenerate larping as a neo-crusader

>Catholocism is actually the one true religion.
Matthew 23
Woe to the Scribes and Pharisees
23 Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2 saying: "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3 Therefore whatever they tell you [a]to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. 4 For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5 But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. 6 They love the [b]best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, 7 greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.' 8 But you, do not be called 'Rabbi'; for One is your [c]Teacher, [d]the Christ, and you are all brethren. 9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10 And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. 11 But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whoever exalts himself will be [e]humbled, and he who humbles himself will be [f]exalted.

13 "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14 [g]Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.

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Wrong, John Bunyan was imprisoned for preaching without a license.
It is during his time in prison that he wrote Pilgrim's Progress.
It was illegal to hold religious meetings of five or more people outside the Church of England.
Which is why we have the right to assembly in our bill of rights.