Is there a worse fanbase?

I agree almost entirely, and im a huge DMC fan

>don't actually care about engaging enemies
this is a BIG one, i once had some fag tell me
"Yeah well this is DMC, ok? The game wasnt made for advanced enemies, fuck off back to Ninja Gaiden"

He had absolutely no drive for the games to improve, he just wants to do combos that last longer then he does in bed

Sonic

>DMCucks
Did you get BTFO on Twitter again?

punching bag enemies for le epic combos is one of the worst parts about DMC, DMC 1 was better

how are they punching bags? Of course they dont respond when they're in a stun state but apart from the two most basic enemies, they still attack you and are aggressive especially the riots, furies, jedecca and the ones who have that charge attack when they cant be stunned

>468408994
Not even worth a (You)

that seems like a lot of generalisations of what is probably a very vocal minority. Then again, thats most fanbases, the minority mkaes idiots think the whole fanbase is like that

You're responding to people who don't actually play the games, they define their reality around shitposting memes.

Yea Forums

based fanboy

ah yes doing 2 minute long combos. such great gameplay

Imagine basing your vision of the fanbase on Yea Forums

Based

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right the majority of the fans are on reddit

and all the shit in OP doesn't apply to them, right

I wouldn't know, i assume you know all about the reddit fanbase

Not really, I stopped browsing it long ago and I only recall r/DevilMayCry being rabid about DmC before 5 was annouced

We're a chad fanbase for a reason. DMC5 sucks though.

>DMC5 sucks though
Elaborate

3 is the only game worth playing and it still has plenty of shit
>Gigapede
>Leviathan
>Doppleganger
>Arkham
>Mission 15
>puzzles that feel like frustrating padding
>the boss rush

I thought this was going to be a secret dmc thread... But it's just a false flagging fake ninja gaiden fan

The real retard fanbase are Bayonetta QTE mashers

no one comes out a winner in these sorts of threads

If you change a few you will get Dark Souls. These people are in large numbers and think that every action game needs to be a 3rd person lockon stamina game.

Agreed. DMC is shitty autism bait with punching bag enemies in which you can just stand in one spot cycling moves while occasionally jumping or dodging, and throwing in a taunt for good measure. It just favors autistic recital of weak combos to fill an arbitrary style meter when that's not the fastest or most efficient way to take out enemies.

Both movement and attacks themselves (both for you and the enemies) are slow and clunky. The movement is awkward and not fluid and is miles below the movement of NG or even something like fucking MGRR. The jump is pisspoor and because there's almost zero lateral movement it's just used for iframe spam.

The game also lacks depth (and no having an arbitrary style meter doesn't change the core mechanics); maybe if every style could be equipped simultaneously it would begin to have some depth, but having to choose between dodge, block/counter, or having more than one attack button? What a fucking joke.

Only having two weapons at once combined with shallow movesets cripples the combat and ruins variety. There are so few moves for each, nothing on the level of NG2's 15+ base attacks (counter, strong, weak, strong hold, weak hold, strong pause, weak pause, forward strong, forward weak, 360 attacks, OT, UT, bow, shruiken, air combos) for each weapon + dodge/block, and this is without even going into the 50+ combos for each weapon. And not to mention NG2's more fluid movement, more strict timing, more smart and adaptive enemy AI (especially bosses), and the weight given to moves by not being able to simply hop right out of them into a full i-frame to apex jump whenever you see an enemy do one of their predictable tells before an attack.

And before you say childish nonarguments like "git gud" yes, I am an avid action game fan and have played them for many years. And yes I am a master at the genre. And yes, of course I have beat the game on DMD; I would never critique a game without mastering it first.

tl;dr but you're probably a faggot
oh and was right, it seems

>maybe if every style could be equipped simultaneously it would begin to have some depth, but having to choose between dodge, block/counter, or having more than one attack button
you do know style switching exists? its literally one button press so dodging, blocking etc is basically all simultaneous
>Only having two weapons at once combined with shallow movesets cripples the combat and ruins variety
did you play dmc5? you have 4 weapons equipped at once each with atleast 2 basic combos and can be witched with one button press whilst also having atleast 15 moves each

nope soulfags are the worst

Skill expression is bad?

play fighting games where it means something and isn't pointless filler

Hes lying about playing the game user. DMC is by far the deepest combat system to ever exist in a video game. in 5 after you max out dante you can have 5 unique melee weapons and 4 ranged weapons equiped at any time.

when you're a shitter yes it is.

that's why people hate DMC. it's the same reason Americans hate intelligence, it makes them feel insecure.

IF YOU HAVE TO ASK

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I do play fighting games, ive been playing them for years. Dmc is about just doing cool shit, fighting games are about reading your opponent.

I love both of them, but they are different beasts where you express skills in different ways.

yeah it is pretty fucking obvious Even though i prefer ninja gaiden, dmc is a close second so it pains me that there are such massive retards that like the franchise

NGcucks are the incels of the action game community.

what the fuck does "shitter" mean?

For sure, they are both so fucking good that it honestly comes down to preference which one is "better". Idk why people are so eager to shit on DMC just because we finally got a new good game after a decade, its only natural people would be excited.

not sure if this counts but i hate the tribalism between certain fanbases, LoL vs Dota, talos principle vs the witness, salt and sanctuary vs hollow knight

holy fucking Jesus. lurk moar faggot.

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expressing "skill" doesn't matter when you are doing it against and AI.

It's not a competitive game

this is pasta

The better game is the more cult its fanbase it has

ofcourse every argument on this board has to come down to "i've been here longer than you"

But what if i like doing cool shit and showing it to people and then they think its cool?

Why does skill expression in fighting games matter when 90% of the people who play fighting games are brainlets who dont even block?

insecure summerboy

Yea, maybe it wouldn't be that way if you weren't a teenager who's been on Yea Forums for half an hour. Go to Twitter you worthless fucking zoomer.

Jerking yourself off as you beat up an AI isn't expressing skill

Also play at locals, if you play fighting games online you don't play fighting games

Personafags are definitely worse
>Lowest IQ of all MegaTen fans
>Have only played Persona 4 and 5, sometimes maybe 3. They think this is the best JRPGs have to offer while it's actually the bottom of the barrel
>"I love fuuka!"
>They literally can't talk about anything other than dumb shit waifufaggotry
>They buy full price DLC (P3Fes, P4G, etc)
>"I love Ann!"
>Gets pandered to by Atlus instead of fans of the superior SMT series
>Have fused with the Smashfags since Joker is in smash
>"Persona started at 3 btw"
DMCfags are fucking nothing compared to the disease that is Personafags

You know, its the fact that DMC fans would be super happy to get a new Ninja Gaiden and are looking forward to Bayonetta 3 that makes these threads the most obvious false flags ever.

internet lingo for "person who is shit"

i.e. You, bitch.

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>t.larping as an oldfag
literally every oldfag has left, no one has been here for more than 4 years

Locals are even worse. Im not that incredible but the only game i ever get destroyed in at meet ups is melee. Not to mention nothing will ever come from expressing skill in either of these games except the occasional money match. Is monetization they only way to make skill expression matter? I make friends from both communities and get congratulated on good play from both games. You sure you dont just hate DMC because its popularity spike?

Action Game fans don't cannibalize each other the way the rest of the faggots on this board do.

it's the byproduct of being in a golden age that was preceded by a dark age.

>Bayonetta 3
>any real DMC fan wanting more QTEs

DMC isnt about "winning" the entire purpose is to try and string together the most impressive and coolest looking combos you can, its a make your own fun/ sandbox kinda game. No one ever brags in the DMC community about HEY I BEAT DMD, yeah we all did, what really matters is combo art.

>If I say lies with confidence I can sound cool!

Go and stay go you cuck.

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i like bayo and dmc

I like Bayonetta despite its shortcomings in its combo starters sooooo. Yeah? We can only hope that Bayo 3 can hide its QTEs as good as DMC4 did.

>plays smash
it's starting to make sense now.

Oh i like DMC, i think you guys are just retarded for treating it like its some high skill ceiling thing as you combo an AI for 3 minutes.

You can think it looks cool. but don't try to act like it's anything but filler

And if you are winning money, then you are expressing skill.

>Thinking Kamihack can do anything but QTEs and ripping off DMC

are you saying no single player game takes skill becuase you fight ai?

Holy fucking shit bayo 1 and 2 maybe had a few QTE's but that is not even close to all the game has to offer.
You DMCfags can't say anything bad about bayo besides "HURRR QTE's"
Maybe if you actually had good reaction time it wouldn't be such a problem you mongoloid

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cope, DMC 3/4/5 are the best action games ever made.

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Pretty much, All single player games come down to exploiting an AI that can't learn and react like a human

Just so we're clear here, there's any retards that actually HATE DMC why liking Bayo or NG and vice versa, right? Because that's like asking for less games like these to be made. Don't get me wrong you can prefer one over the other, you may not even actively like one of them as much, but to HATE them is just autistic

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user, I clearly like Kamiya and don't think he's hack. Also kinda impossible to rip off your own self.

its a reactionary thing because all anti-dmc fags say are "HURRR PUNCHING BAGS"
I agree the QTEs in bayonetta arent egregious except for the ones that randomly turn up in cutscenes but you have to admit dmc4/5 have the best qte's of all time like having to time bustering vergil's divebomb

Its true

You're right, he made the worst dmc

go choke on his micro dick fanboy

>Argument for why DMC is bad boils down to "What you're doing is pointless, you're having pretend fun".

Video Games: Serious Business

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your the reason threads like this are made, fuck off no one wants you here

Oh boo hoo, go play with your QTEs

I dont "play" smash, i just go to meet ups just to hang out.

Also who cares if someone plays smash, yeah they have obnoxious threads all over this board, but I know plenty of people who are completely stable and intelligent who play that game.

So your thesis is that skill expression only matters when there is monetary gain to be had?

I guess ill just have to disagree

>the vast majority of the fanbase started with the HD Collection
That's how you know they're literally the best action games, if a ps2 title can BTFO any action ps4 game you know you've done a pretty great fucking job

So Sekiro doesnt take skill?

What really shits me is when they try and shit on DMC1 for not being as cuhrayzee, even though DMC1 objectivity does nearly everything better except combat itself, and even then DMC1 still does certain things better combat wise. DMC3 can’t touch DMC1’s atmosphere and general artistic merit.

>soulsbab

Its too late!

fpbp

You niggers think every fanbase has the worst fanbase.

Nah the Deus Ex fanbase is pretty good

>WHY CONTAIN IT XDDD
Yeah nah. Fuck you.

Soulsborne
Monster Hunter
Any hyped up game that ends up being garbage

I personally don't really like the art direction in 1, I like it's atmosphere and some of it's settings, but I don't like how it feels overly detailed
Still a must play, and anyone who shits on it is an idiot

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>DMC3 can’t touch DMC1’s atmosphere and general artistic merit.
I mean, DMC1 gets too much shit, but that's not where I think it's that much better. Yes, it has a lot of good art and atmosphere due to its origins in Resident Evil, but DMC1's greatest strengths are its level design (connected well despite the Mission structure), its enemy design (despite the odd one-type-per-room limitation), and its boss design (many actions, iterative across three fights each, multiple relatively clear paths to win). I can admit that even as somebody who really likes the later approach to the combat as a fighting game lab monster who likes to figure out what can combo into what (as well as really liking how 3 tells its story).

Personally (based on replaying parts of 1 & 3 recently),
5 > 1 >= 3SE > 3 = 4SE > 4 > DmC:DE > 2 = DmC
Although I need to finish my current playthrough of 1 to solidify that.

Desperate.

>no one has been here for more than 4 years
hello

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your turn

there's nothing wrong with enigmas

OP is only correct in the sense that faggots who think that their game/series/medium is objectively superior to its peers when it has pros and cons just like all the others are the worst fans of anything.

My favorite action games are a mixture of DMC, Team Ninja, Platinum(/Clover), and indies. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. You go to DMC for something that you don't go to the others for (namely freeform combo structure with a huge number of tools) and other action games fill in the itch for what DMC isn't as great at (enemy/level design if you're talking DMC3/4/5). I'm open to trying new things when it comes to action games; I have KH2FM on my backlog just to see, and I'm grabbing some action games this Steam sale (indies as well as Dark Messiah despite being very different from the above because it's cheap and I've heard/seen good things about the combat).

tl;dr all blind fanboys are faggots, learn to weigh the strengths and weaknesses of things.

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Desperate.

This guy gets it

At least you are not quakefags. Fuck those guys.

no, I will purify the ignorant masses of their inferior opinions. every. single. one.

Smash and by extension the Nintendo fanbase at large are immensely worse

DMCfags just overcompensate so much to make up for the fact the franchise is a flop.

I'm not particularly a fan of the humor of the game, personally.

>LE BANG BANG PULL MY R*DDIT TRIGGER XD

It gets tiring.

Yeah I made the original though.

t. some faggot who tried to stir shit in a DMC thread but got BTFO so now he has to whine about it in his own circlejerk

name one actual instance of that humor in dmc5

>no one has been here for more than 4 years
I'm going to be hitting a decade soon and I considered myself a newfag until I was 6-7 years in, and I only stopped because of the clear influx of traffic in 2014 & 2016.

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>muh Reddit

Thry're annoying, but at least not as annoying as this bitch

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>giving (you)s to obvious bait

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>not liking 5 or 3's opening
you are a supreme faggot

How DMC1’s opening Reddit humor?

Just know that you're a faggot and no amount of (you)s will help cure it, because the only solution is to go kill yourself

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Dude etika fucking died not even a week ago after being told to do that. Stop it!

nicovideo.jp/watch/sm35325858

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For me, it's Ayane

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thats not an answer. but i guess you got me with the shitposting.

I genuinely hate God Hand

For me it's KYRIEEEEEEEE

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a blessed first post

>Only exists as an in-universe tutorial/easy mode with a fat ass in the first Team Ninja NG.
At least she's more competent and hotter than Rachel and her lack of ass.

>Ninja Gaiden Black
>Shittier levels
The entirety of Ninja Gaiden Black is far better than any DMC game when it comes to level-design.

post her ass, i demand proof

Nothing is worse than the Jojo fanbase
A close second is 40k fags

Literally beat Chapter 1 of Black/Sigma. The camera practically zooms into her cheeks when it shows her alerting Ryu about the village.

Agreed. I came to it pretty late and I was blown away with how good the level design was. Everything but the Airship is connected in some way by the end of the game, and there were no truly poorly-designed areas. My ONE gripe is the platforming challenge right before the final boss, because there's some very particular jumps that can fuck you over if you're not in perfect positioning, but it's also timed.

The fact that she acts as Ryu's scout is one of my favorite things about the first game, i wish it was something they kept for the whole series. Rachel is pretty capable, she's canonically defeated more powerful foes than Ayane has.

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>Rachel is pretty capable
Black is really bad at conveying that. Sigma lets you play as her and fight Gamov which helps though. Even then her third chapter ends in an unwinnable fight.

What's wrong with it? Is it how stiff the control's feel?

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She defeats Marbus in the second game

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>ITT people that never managed to beat DMC3
whatever save up for golden orbs you fag

Don't forget that platforming secret mission as Vergil.

I honestly haven't played 2 because I habe no Xbox. I managed to find a copy of Sigma for PS3 and played that because it's not that different from Black. Maybe one day, but I'm more likely to try Razor's Edge first given my situation.

I'd argue that smt fans are absolute scum because they only have one good mainline game but reverse it so that if you mention nocturne they go full elitism mode as if smt4 and apocalypse were any fucking good.

>thinks all over action game IPs are inferior by virtue of not being DMC
Pretty much every DMC fan also idolizes Ninja Gaiden and/or Bayonetta.
>glosses over any short comings but grasp onto any small misstep of other action game IPs
Pretty much every DMC fan will tell you the weaknesses of each game, freely admitting that 4 lacks content and 3 has some bad bosses.
>think the only metric by which all action games should be judged by is the ability to keep punching bag enemies in the air with jump canceling, nothing else matters
Not sure why you'd think that, jump canceling is useful but only a few people care about creating intricate combos, the majority of fans are content to just avoid getting hit.
>don't actually care about engaging enemies
Everyone has different advice and tactics for dealing with enemies like Blitzes, Furies, and Vanguards, knowing how to handle these aggressive enemies is a big part of each game.
>rarely play other action games but will tell you how they are inferior anyway
This is just silly considering how long it's been since DmC and 5.
>on the rare occasion they do play other action titles, their opinions are always surface level at best
I've had great discussions about NG and Bayo.
>any criticism of their cult games are met with rabid fanboyism
As long as you don't create objectively wrong criticisms like 'there is no difficulty and it's all about JCing enemies', people are pretty good about discussing the games' flaws.
>they don't actually care about the roots of the franchise they claim to love
There are a lot of people who still think DMC1 is the best game.
>they think Itsuno is the greatest director in the world yet can't even name other titles he directed, especially pre-DMC3
Literally every DMC thread has at least one guy asking for DD2.
>the vast majority of the fanbase started with the HD Collection rather than the PS2 releases of 1-3 and PS3/360 releases of 4
Fans absolutely judge newbies who played the HD collection.

There are a few but DMCfags are definitely up there. It's even worse that a few of them seem to straight up dislike the guy who made the fucking franchise.

DMD is basically "punching bag:the mode". Enemies health bars get inflated to an absurd degree.

Bamham games are objectively bad action games.
Any game that takes your attention away from the action for any reason is bad - even more so if it ends up being a core part of the gameplay and isn't just there for fluff.
>action games are cinematic just by existing
Any action game that has you stop mashing buttons for more than 3 seconds or if it overly uses quick time/bullet time mechanics as part of its core is NOT an action game.

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Why is it that no one on this board can come up with an arguent beyond soulsbaby or smashfag. Its almost like those games actually have meaningful skill progression and they dont have a single argument to counter it.

If they dislike the guy who made the franchise, that doesn't make them fans of the games than, especially when Itsuno still gives fan service for DMC1 to this day

its over dmcucks. Itagaki btfo your series. his comments are 100% correct.

its almost like you dont have to click on the threads if you dont want to go there.

>III
as it stands now it's a kids game
like holy shit

>Itagaki
>still relevant

fpbp as always.

cope dmcbabbies

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The point is to punish shitters that aren't good enough to do high DPS combos. You aren't a shitter, are you user? And even if you are too shit to do strong things, the game gives you like at least a dozen one button 55426883 DPS moves, with the drawback of usually having a trillion startup frames before they come out. So you have to stagger and knock down enemies before you use them to protect yourself. But shitters can't do this.

Looks like someone's a shitter who isn't good enough to S rank DMD, and since they don't understand the way the game is designed they just say that the design is bad when in reality they just aren't smart enough to figure it out themselves. Could you be any worse at games?

>smash
>needing skill

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like the other user said, these guys only see the combo mads where some autist bullies scarecrows for 20 minutes and think the entire game/series is like that.

DMC3 is unironically the peak of stylish action games. I like most of the games in this genre but none of them even come close to DMC3.

see

why would I care what some dude who has only made games that I don't like has to say about games that I do like?

>Kamiya
>DMC3
Learn to read Gaiden cuck

That was added in Sigma 2, you can't play as the girls in the Xbox version, Momiji and Rachel don't even show up. Ayane shows up out of nowhere, in S2 you see why she shows up.

also Kamiya wasn't involved in DMC3 so this retarded quote isn't even relevant

>compares NG2 to DMC1 when the latter went through a phase from being a horror game to an action game and was developed in weaker hardware
Was it autism?

Literally seething right now

Ironic considering NG2 is a much more shallow experience then black

I'm not seething because I'm not terrible at dmc. Can you say the same? (hint the answer is no)

Cope, it's trash and it flopped,

my blood boils every time some one says you should skip DMC1, its always the same "bad camera" and no weapon variety whining, its like these fags dont know this was the first game of its kind.
it dosent have to be your favorite and god knows it isnt mine, but selling it short like that is unfair.

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Name 3 action games besides Bayonetta that are like dmc3 and I’ll play them.

>also Kamiya wasn't involved in DMC3
He kinda was though

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There was only one good DMC game and it was the first one.

Basically everything that is not related to the characters, humor and the soundtrack. I don't get what people see in that gameplay, i feel like am being rused

Vanquish, God Hand, Sekiro

Bring a turbo function for god hand unless you have an irl God Hand

2FM is a snoozefest until the post game, thats why i cant get myself to replay it even after all these years.

God Hand and Unironically KH, something like NG is completely different and DMC4 sucks

>1m+ sales in both original and HD remaster
>flop

Quite the definition of flop you got there. It isn't a flop, cope.

Assault Spy
Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae
I think that's it, since I can't think of any other indie DMC clones that are in 3D and Bayo/DMC4/DMC5 are obviously not going to be new to you.

I actually have a physical copy of god hand for ps2. I wish they’d port it to the ps4 like they did for ps3.

how does that shit work exactly? is it some dude talking with a voice modulator?

Bayonetta is not like DMC3

>Vanquish, God Hand, Sekiro
Those games aren't like DMC3 though, especially Vanquish since it's a third person shooter

>game needs to be released multiple times just to achieve what most AAA games do in a single release
F L O P
L
O
P

I mean it is Imo, it's just much easier

Itsuno did make the greatest fighting games of all time so he's pretty up there

Goalposts = moved. Literally seething. Stay mad. I'm sure Capcom isn't mad at millions of dollars dmc3 made them. Unlike you, captain maderall

Easier? Enemies actually fight back in Bayonetta

DMC3 isnt harder its just more tedious, when you compare DMD3 and NSIC you can really see the flaws with DMC3s enemies and encounters

Pretty sure both the original and remaster made a million each.
Seriously, though, why are NGfags like this?

Try as Itsuno might he will never defeat me. DMC will always live in his big dick shadow.

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you're fucking great at proving points user

The only enemies that fight back are Gracious and Glorious

Then why did they reboot the series in the first place? LMAO

>Spider brony is making a comeback

>weapon switching.
>combos.
>actions the players found that extend combos.
How so? Also I’m an idort who likes both Bayo and DMC. So you got any other games, or you just wanna be fanny flustered?

Because Capcom was retarded and were aiming for Call of Duty numbers even though the target audience for both games are incredibly different.

Because Inafune has a hard on for western games.

Why's Ninja Gaiden dead? Oh yeah, because Hayashi would rather be making souls clones.

Hardcore Sonic fans of course. They are not even wanted on Yea Forums because they are all furries.

Because they wanted the big normie AAA dollars that you're implying makes DMC3 a failure for not getting but the entire nature of DMC is that in order for its diehard fans to enjoy it it has to not cater to the normie crowd.

I'll send you my bill for explaining this painfully obvious fact that everyone else already knows, sorry about your being slow in the head.

Or it's because DMC sales are weak.

if thomas edison was a video game

Because Inafune convinced Capcom's old-ass Board of Directors that the way to get Western AAA numbers instead of ~2 Million sales was to give Japanese IPs to relatively cheap Western developers.

Well, Inafune is also part of why NG is dead, because he's the reason we have Yaiba. I will always remind people that Inafune convinced Koei to let him make an NG game and he decided to give the IP to the team that made LOST PLANET 3 and LEGENDARY.

Smash is like any other fighting game, what is there that sets it apart from other ones? I'd even say there are other fighting games that are better, so why mention it as if it's the only one that requires skills?

kys zoomers Itagaki is god. NG black is better and deeper than Bayonetta, God Hand and Dmc.

Ok homie, you can stay playing GoW

Yaiba came and went like nothing happened, didn't even make a dent. No one cares about it, it's just a stupid spinoff.

ah yes the age-old maneuver:
When engaging in a heated argument over which video game is better, call the fans of the opposing game fags.
works every time

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>thinks all over action game IPs are inferior by virtue of not being DMC
this sounds more like ninja gaiden fags

It's like a 3D beat em' up, and nothing's really like it, you can make your own combo chain and it has a lot if moves, and a difficulty system that's like no other
Though I'll understand if you found the camera being awful, the level design being bad, and controls being kinda stiff, but it's really nothing to drive me to hate the game imo, I just wish there was a second entry to fix it's faults

I guess people think that because Smash is 90% positioning that it takes more inherent skill, but it's just radically different from most fighters. There's still very easy characters and very difficult characters. If you play Pac-Man or Ice Climbers or Duck Hunt or whatever, then yeah, you're very skillful. I personally stick to pretty low-execution read/grab-heavy characters like Palutena, K. Rool, Bowser, Incineroar, and Simon when I play Ultimate.

So, I just went ahead and bought NGB and Bayonetta for my 360 off of Amazon. Anything I should look out for?

REFUTE ITAGAKI FAGGOTS

Black on 360 has kinda fucked cg cutscenes from what I remember other than that it works fine.

On that note: anybody grabbing action games in the Steam Sale? DMC4SE is $10, Revengeance is $7.50, Bayo & Vanquish are $5 apiece. Then there's indies on sale like Assault Spy, Aces Wild, Aztez, etc.

>he doesn't have the gamepass

I like the DW games but opinions on them are polarizing. It's fun for a few hours at least. Earth Defense Force games are fun too.

>90% of the fights are against a single enemy type. Combat is repetitive as fuck. Pitiful enemy variation, mostly just recolors
>Difficulty balancing all over the place, on MN the first 2 chapters are the hardest in the game. Once you hit the werewolves the difficulty becomes a joke until you hit chapter 11 in which case you're so decked out that it doesn't matter
>The delimbing system is retarded as fuck. You can kill most enemies in two strikes and spam UTs to win. You spend more time watching Ryu's retardedly long attack animations play out than actually playing the game.
>Water and underwater attacks are fucking pointless. Why are they even in the game? You never willingly attack on water except for when you're forced to against the red water demons in that section before the jellyfish mines in chapter 5
>Constant slowdowns all over the place. I hope you weren't getting a buzz going because you're about to lose it
>Beginner's traps all over the place. Enemies spawn behind you, or lunge out from behind corners.
>STILL NO FUCKING CHAPTER SELECT! I HOPE YOU LEAVE A SAVE AT YOUR FAVORITE FIGHTS OR ELSE YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE ENTIRE GAME OVER AGAIN
>Weapons are unbalanced as fuck. The Talons -> + Y move delimbs nearly fucking everything with a single strike while giving you i-frames out the ass and the weapon LITERALLY HAS A FUCKING HOMING IZUNA DROP. The staff is spin to win. The Tonfa's UT is ridiculously OP and insta-kills the spiderbots and hoverbots. Dual swords do stupid damage. Compare that shit to the useless fucking Vigoorian Flail whose only decent attack is the -> + Y which is a second rate version of the Talon's attack.
>Content that should have been on the disk was DLC. DMC4, literally half a game, has the Bloody Palace mode built in while the equivalent in NG2 was fucking 12 dollars. Don't forget about the shitty 3 dollar a piece costumes!

I hoped NG2 was going to be the DMC2 of the series it sucked so much. Then 3 came out. Then Yaiba.

Rachel's breasts

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BASED

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Welp pack it in guys if Luigiman7 says it's the best then who are we to argue?

what a king

I've played everything platinum has put out and ninja gaiden sigma.
Nothing makes me come back every time like DMC3

>NG2
>combos

>He played the inferior snoy port

>DMCfag
>Knowing about other action game mechanics

I fucking hate DMC fans.

>Still crying that the definite version of the game he pretends to play is in the """""rival"""" system a full decade later

How does one become such a loser?

imagine denying that ng is deeper lmao.

Doing combos in NG is Fucking retarded and especially retarded in NG2. It is the opposite of what the games are about

Let go of the lock on and aerial rave then trick up
Voila

What does it even mean to have "deeper" combat anyways? Is it the amount of options? Cause I'm sure DMC has more option or am I being wrong?

Perhaps you need to read my post again

>The "worst" ones have died out
DMC fans literally havent existed for 10 years, had all game discussion die after a month and still makes Yea Forums seethe

DMCucks are especially bad because they deny the fact that Bayonetta is the iconic action game character, ignoring the fact that she's specifically chosen to represent the action game genre in Smash Bros.

You are being wrong on both fronts

I know this is bait but Bayonetta literally quotes Dante. I mean...

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Than explain to me, what does it mean to be "deep"?

So what? Bayonetta is still more popular and iconic.

The problem isn't DMC fans, the problem is you playing shit like arkham and trying to pretend it has good combat. Of course someone is going to correct you. And instead of being humbled and grateful you spit in their face.

Are you pretending to be retarded?

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NG has options but most of them are situational so you can be more efficient, example being that using something like the Dabi on cat fiends is basically suicide and your better off using lunar or flails

If Anyone's the face of action games it's unfortunately Kratos.

Post the second half.

Mechanical intricacy, in all strands that make up the gameplay.

You are completely wrong

DMC IS DEEPER THAN NG

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And how does DMC not have that?

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Nice self portrait NGcuck.

gotta say these last 50 posts really make a case for NGBfags

>how is ninja gaiden deeper?
>because it is
>DMC sucks lmao
>wojak face

Would Dante be into that or nah?

Put that on like a man, Dante.

I would never say smash is the most skillful, that probably goes to Guilty Gear, but to assert that smash takes no skill at all is contrarian at best and completely foolish at worst.

Anyone who's been in more than one of these threads are fully aware of how shitty the Ninja Gaiden fanbase on Yea Forums is.

The part that does not pertain to offense is missing

>If Anyone's the face of action games it's unfortunately Kratos.

hopefully Old Kratos.

it's probably Barry trying to play both sides against each other since he hates DMC fans

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I would have disagreed but DMC5 released and here we are

The absolute COPE of DMC5 fags is sad. Too many gastrointestinal parasites from running asses I think

>Thanks, i've been looking for a new cock ring

I honestly prefer the new GOW. Now it's the best game in a shitty genre instead of being the worst game in a GOAT genre.

>keeps starting shit in KH threads
>keeps starting shit in TWEWY threads
>keeps starting shit in DMC threads
>keeps starting shit in FF threads
His autism scares me sometimes

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The average DMCfag's diet consists 90% of soi, with the remaining 10% being vegan food of the individual choice. This is thus why DMCfags are heavily feminized abominations.

No one is saying that silly, or at least I don't think so, I just want to understand what does it mean to have "deep" combat
>Kratos
Only if you're a nigger and or a normie

How? Try fighting Doku with a slower weapon or Alma without the Dragon sword or even Berserkers and ogres without the Dabi/UF. This isn't even a bad thing cause I feel it works in the games favor. The games about knowing when to use certain moves, the fiend clone battles for example play out more like a fighting game then a action game

Nothing wrong with a boss rush. It was done well too

Reminder to not respond to Spiderbrony

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Neck yourself DMCuck. Beating the final corridor before the battle with the Fates in GoW2 on Titan is literally 100x deeper and harder than anything in your entire franchise let alone the shit tier reboot. Play action games outside of your series before you try to talk authoritatively about the genre, stupid casual fucking faggot.

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Consider how many people bought the minority station 4

REAL ACTION GAMERS MAKE FUN OF DMC

Bayonetta is better than DMC

>GoW
>Hard

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I beat GoW2 on titan back in the day dude. It's shallow as fuck. SST and counter are your bread and fucking butter.

Also this is the objective action tier list.

Note to retarded DMCucks: finding a million different ways to juggle a sandbag isn't depth. It's depth when in Ninja Gaiden and KH2 you have a ton of moves and they all serve a purpose in X situation against X enemy. Air juggling sandbags to death for 30 seconds when you could have killed them in 2 seconds isn't depth.

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>replying to barry

Ninja Gaiden is not one game, your logic only applies to the first game and even then you are cherry picking a couple of bosses which I'll tell you right now Doku is not one of them and Berserkers and Ogres are not even on the level of being considered. There's nothing stopping you from fighting Alma with any weapon either, it will be harder for sure, but not impossible. One of the survival challenges in Sigma asks you to beat her 10 times in a row with the Flails for example.

>KH2 in the same tier as NGB
>NG2 as good as NGB
>God Hand meme
>KH3 in E
>force unleashed

>it’s another Barry episode
I’m sick of reruns

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t. seething DMCtranny

No you didn't. Trying to DPS things to death in GoW doesn't work as well as in other action games in terms of efficiency. High level play focus on grabs, the environment (kicking things over cliffs, into hazards, finding places where enemies can't hit you from, AI boundaries), collisions, Power% ignoring options, and stunlocks. There are attacks that ignore Power%, most notably grabs and (most) magic (all in GoW1), which makes it smart to focus on them on high difficulties since they're not any weaker.

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Fuck off DMCuck.

How badly do you think he's gonna seethe when the FF7 remake comes out and inevitably has better combat than 15?

I didn't say it was easy or I did it optimally, I said I did it and it wasn't very deep.

the E3 demo already showed it was going to be more than this casual pandering trash

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Hello, I am a proud Ninja Gaiden player with 25+ years of experience. And my opinion is simply this.
Kill all DMCucks.

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My point is that when up against X enemy/boss it's flat out better and more efficient to use Y as opposed to Z. Where as in other games it's about using Y and Z together

FFXV is dead

based.
redpilled.
checked.
when will cokkie man make another masterpiece?

>filenames
if you want to samefag all the time why would you keep the same filenames barry. Are you just an attention whore?

he still wants to shitpost

>I said I did it
And you were outed as a retarded DMCuck talking out of his ass with your attempt at a gameplay comment, cope more with your sandbag simulator you dumb sack of shit

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it feels good to be a NGchad

>people waited 10 years for this
>people died waiting for this

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>people waited 10 years for this
>people died waiting for this

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Oh dmc is absolutely a better series. No contest. So is NG. Hell Chaos legion can compete with GoW.

>objective action games list
>adds RPGs and a shit horror game
But like why? And I'm sorry about your shit taste

DMC5 was not in development for 10 years, Barry.

Sorry Gaiden boy but cuck fits you better seeing as how Hayashi cucked you with Nioh.

>literally copying and pasting posts
You’re not even trying anymore. This is just sad.

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Ya'll niggas wanna talk about Onimusha for a bit? I only have Devilish mode left to do on 3. I don't know if it's because i burned myself out on the series by trying to 100% them in sequence but i liked the first 2 games more. 3 has some mechanics that rely on stupid execution gimmicks, and it removed some of the simpler but fun tech of the previous game like instant running attack and stun states that leave enemies open to more combos. I like all of the characters except for that stupid fucking kid, story is even more silly but not bad, some enemies are really fucking annoying, some bosses are good others are petty trash. Nobunaga is a really cool boss. The new analog control scheme is clunky and doesn't let you do stuff you can with the D-pad so you have to keep switching between them. Soundtrack is really good but the sound balance is awful, my God whom ever worked on it is unbelievably incompetent.

Still pretty good game, series is great so far.
youtube.com/watch?v=F5KC1_pcmCE

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>two separate posts replying to different people
>"samefag "

This is your mind on DMCuck chimps after they've been confronted with the reality of their dogshit series having no depth, 100% retard tier sperg outs and 0% arguments.

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Devils third is Unironically Kino if drunk with friends

Are you the guy who was asking about Dawn of Dreams a few threads back?

That's true for DMC as well, who are you kidding?

Probably not, i bought all of the games at once save for 1 which i already own. Dawn of Dreams is on backlog right now because i don't want to go into it feeling burned out.

Does anyone have anymore FFXV webms showing how awful the game is?

Good idea to save it for another time I did a marathon of all Onimusha games a few years back and Dawn of Dreams just fucking drained me.
I'd recommend not 100%ing it, I did and the dark realms nearly drove me mad.

seethe harder dmctrannies. your series will never be considered deep unlike ng.

FFXVfags

Dude, this is just sad.

>DMCucks already this BTFO a few months after their meme game released

How will they ever recover? Holy fucking saved and this is getting copypasted whenever I see them acting uppity again. Dogshit series, dogshit fanbase,

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>series they constantly shitted on for years ironically helped kill theirs
Will never not be funny

>IP didn’t even go up
Kek

based gowchad

Are they different than the rest of the games? Well each one is slightly different anyway i suppose. If i go into the game fresh and enjoy it I'll probably end up 100%ing it.

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itagaki destroyed your series.

Has Barry ever even played NG? Feel like he'd just get filtered by Murai and Masakados

>retard doesn't know what a samefag is
k

>IP count is hardly going up

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Dmcvirgins...

Talking shit about games he’s never played isn’t exactly new to Barry.

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I don't really remember most of it, just spamming Issen to make it go faster and waiting far too long for the damned flying enemies to come into attack range for anyone who wasn't the girl.

Do the characters no longer have ranged weapons?

FPBP

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Some do, some don't.
Soki can use his second sword as one kinda.

So like Jacques basically, who has a gun but insists on fighting out of reach enemies by whacking them with his melee weapons.

I forgot to say, i wish Jean Reno voiced all of the characters dialog.

>he went after DQfags once
How deep does his mind go?

>TWEWY has shit combat and that XV is better
This is so wrong that I don't even know where to begin.
>Bayonetta and DMC are button mashers
I'd still rather have those than the clusterfuck that was XV's combat. Plus. those games discourage you from button mashing due to how the style rankings work.
>not a single Dragon Quest could rival XV
Not only is Dragon Quest the reason FF exists in the first place but DQ is super huge in Japan.

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So deep that he legitimately thinks that Luna is a good character

I love the back and forth with voice actors languages in 3, it's tonally not distracting or anything.

>being this mad
obvious bait but ill bite anyway
faggot

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>Barry isn’t even responding anymore
Kek. Should’ve figured.

learn to dodge offset in bayo, it will feel counterintuitive at first but look up a good short youtube guide and you should get the hang of it.
i didnt like aces wild but the rest are really worth it.

Holy shit

pack it up guys we're done here

i like bayo just as much as the next guy, but saying she is the face of action games is pretty retarded, Bayo1 sold 1.2m on ps3 and 900k on 360 and Bayo2 completely flopped on WiiU.
compare those numbers to DMC and GoW and its should be obvious which character is the face of action games.

>all of these deleted Barry posts
Holy shit

ded series

please please admit dmc is shit. ng i-i-i-is bet-t--ter

>2FM
>shinobi
>GoW1/2
>MOTHERFUCKING FORCE UNLEASHED

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>dead series
>when it just got revived

let’s expand that to weeaboo games in general

im interested in playing TWEWY, is the android version ok?

ctr fanbase seems to be 90% furrys

It’s fine but compared to the DS release, it loses a bit of what made the original stand out. It can be fun but if you want the authentic experience, I heavily recommend the DS version.

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I love how DMC1 is only an hour or two long. Never feels like a commitment to kick the game on because I know i'll either likely beat it in that sitting or run out of yellow orbs on the given difficulty and try again another time. No savescumming here. Think the whole speedrunning aspect is underappreciated.

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DILATE DMCTRANNIES

i love the music

dmcucks....

literally nothing your faggot ass said is true, half the time DMC threads consist of infighting and actual criticism of many aspects of the games by people who actually care about the gameplay and engage with the mechanics a ta deeper level

it's newcomers like you who normally come in with bullshit complaints that only prove you've barely even touched the games like
>t-the enemies don't do anything hurr what a shit series
and then get upset when people call you out for being objectively wrong and retarded, I've seen it many times since DMC5 was announced and discussion blew up

Yeah, i'm sure we can all agree the ambiance is godly.

youtu.be/dQABIILCfuo
youtu.be/vIzhE3YvG9E
youtu.be/rlm3I2b768o

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admit defeat for once dmcucks

>IP count still isn't going up

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just look where /cgg/ is at now

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>tfw XV kun literally went insane because the game he was waiting for turned out to be a complete disaster, he convinced himself that it was in fact a masterpiece and vowed to prevent others from enjoying vidya because he was robbed of his own joy

It’s almost sad in a way

ng still better and deeper faggots. itagaki is based.

He needs a hug.

That or a good kick in the dick

Barry on suicide watch

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>his posts got deleted
LOL

Yeah the fanbase is pretty bad. For whatever reason they have a really hard time admitting the faults of the series, when the series has plenty.
>Second game is bad, not worth playing.
>Fourth game makes you retread the whole game over again. Arguably a bad game.
That leaves 3/5 overall good games.
That's not a good track record. Series like Bayonetta and God of War, even though they might not excel in the same areas as DMC, have no bad games.
And then there's also things like some bad bosses plaguing the series. The games aren't perfect. Not even the best in most aspects.

>he's still at it
Give it up

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Hey, that guy you responded to, I like DMC. You don't.

Pretty much everyone agrees on those two aspects, dumbass.

this is giving you a (you) but i am going to just say it

you are not clever, you are not smart, you are so lazy when you try to troll with the quality just being

'lol reddit"

its so fucking old now

Other action game IPs are generally inferior. Ninja Gaiden Black is the only game that competes with DMC3 and 5, and I say that as someone whose favorite game of the last console generation was Bayonetta.
NGB is the closest anybody has fucking gotten and even that is super flawed (but of course so are DMC3 and 5)
NG2 and 3 are dogshit. inb4 vanilla 2 defense force, that game fucking sucks and is an insult to the first.

Itagaki is literally an ego whore and taking anything he says beyond a measure of quality for his own games is just reaching

You think 2001 wasn’t more than 10 years ago?

>MUH BLACK
>MUH BLACK
>MUH BLACK
>MUH BLACK

It's like a dismiss this post alarm

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I mean Sigma 1 and vanilla 1 are acceptable too. But Black is clearly the best version.

oh my god it keeps going

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>Ninja Gaiden Black is the only game that competes with DMC3 and 5
DMC1 & 5 maybe. 3fags need to go

>Ninja Gaiden Black is the only game that competes with DMC3 and 5
I mean this from the bottom of my heart: Ninja Gaiden Black is so much better than DMC3/5, it's physically impossible to express through written words alone. NGB is as close to a perfect action game as we'll ever get - for better or for worse.

CHEER UP CREWCUT

Seething

dmc is a ded franchise

Fpbp

>he’s still going
Jesus, man.

>the guy who made devil's thrid
>credible

JACKPOT

Cheer up

fuck off

cringe DMCfag

imagine not enjoying ninja gaiden and dmc
what are you some sort of fag?

Lots of people didn't enjoy DMC, hence.

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Based

Shinobi is good though. He's baiting with the order but most of his higher tiers are worth being there.

its almost like you don't have to make a thread about a fanbase you don't like

>ninja gaiden fag so upset DMC got a sequel after years of shit posting
off yourself

what is that picture supposed to prove?
i dont think it deserves being higher than DMC1/VJ or even Bayonetta 2, shinobi's concept is really cool but the wonky camera and hotsuma's limpwristed attack animations really set the game back, it needs a proper sequel/spiritual successor to iron the wrinkes and make the game not handle like shit.