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How does Valve and Riot just rip off the Autochess mod like that without even giving credit to the creator?

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Garbage game archetype dess

League or Dota Auto Chess?

Dota Underlords came after Valve talked to auto chess creators

Riot is just following popular trends

Do you think Drodo regrets not working with Valve?

I go with the dota one, feels like it's less RNG than the league version.
I can consistently get at least top 4 every game.
Also the games are usually closer between the top 3

They probably just threw I’m a shitty deal to just say oh we couldn’t work together.

pretty sure riot said in their announcement post that every fucking one in the office was playing auto chess when they got the idea

Why wouldn't Valve want to work with Drodo?

nationalistic and independent viewpoint
And i guess Epic gave the the big dosh too

It also doesn't help both are chinese so that really put it in Epic's camp.

Absolutely.

China gives 0 fucks about copyright law

Can't copyright gameplay, can't ask for credits.

Who is the creator of dota?

How does DOTA just rip off the Aeon of Strife mod like that without even giving credit to the creator?

Main breaker for me is the UI for the LoL one is fucking awful are barebones compared to Underlords.

Why should I, why the fuck should it mattered they talked, unless the patented the idea then anyone can make their own version without needing to talk

Is auto chess even fun? I see people playing the dota and league one and I have no goddam clue what’s going on.

it's relaxed

It's ok, it's about trying to get best in crappy situation. If you like RNG then it might be fun for you.

it's pretty good

Do you guys really think the conversation between Drodo and Valve went like this
"Drodo we cant to make a game with you, NO? Can we at least make our own spinoff and release it way before your game comes out? If you don't want us to do it its cool we just wont cash in on this trend"
Neither of them can stop each other from making a game and no sane person would just let a multi million company just let you copy your idea and get a way bigger headstart
this "Friendly chat" valve said can be just as friendly as the chats soviet union and USA had

Because the fucking point of the thread is that Riot or Valve didn't give "credit to the creator" when there's literally a Valve blog post saying that they talked to the creator

As far as I know Riot hasn't acknowledged the Auto Chess creators

It's fun to play a few rounds every couple days. It's not really a game I can play for extended sessions, but it's good fun to boot up with two or three friends.
I basically think of it as a multiplayer slot machine to feed into some deep rooted gambling addiction I might have.

Icefrog and ginsoo iirc from back to dota uno. I think ginsoo left to make LoL.

Valve most definitely was trying to get original named game, by hiring or by buy it.

Ok but why did they have to pick the most boring-sounding name of all time

"Auto Chess" is not the kind of name that gets any of my attention at all

Talking to the guy isnt giving credit

valve is literally made of modders, I would be surprised if they didn't offer them a job.

Just read the original blog post where they mention them by name and call auto chess "the original mod": blog.dota2.com/2019/05/dota-auto-chess/

how can anyone support the Riot's typical chinese behavior of stealing shit? especially when the microtransactions in their games affect the gameplay itself

Only brainlets and poorfags that don't have a decent PC play their garbage games

Does Yea Forums stand for video games or valve drones

Why bother? League fags only flock to padded bot views on twitch, but cry bloody murder if you mention Valve's prize pools not just in Dota 2, but CS GO and even Paladins

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Haven't seen gameplay of it yet, played the league one, feel like it needs a way to get the characters you need more consistently. That being said, it can be rather fun.

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Bruh paid runes havent been a thing for fucking years

Don't talk shit about things you don't know about

>Dota eSports pay better
How does this affect my gaming?

Pro strat for you
Don't wait for the right characters, just keep buying strong ones and get as many as you can upgraded to level 2
A lot less reliant on RNG this way

>it stopped being a thing man!
i sure hope Riot refunded all those RP and IP points for a now defunct system
....right?

PR stunt so they can offer drodo a shitty deal then cash out without looking like the bad guys is my guess. I think they do at least respect the original creator but this is how most of the cooperate world works.

Wake me up when League has a mobile version.

you still have to pay for the heroes, which is incredibly laughable as a self-proclaimed competitive game and e-sport. you NEED to know your enemy to be able to face them, and to do that you need to play as them yourself.

So just out of curiosity, who plays autochess over dota/leagues chess?

I would but it has a lot less players now

It's still a better candidate for esports since it doesent have all the aids RNG that dota has
and for the record, both games are trash

Riot is garbage from the beginning.

>giving credit to chinks
lol why they wouldn't do the same for you

are you serious? what do you know about dota? it's all psuedo-rng, in that the math allows it to all be predicted and capitalized on. there is literally no random number generation anywhere in the game besides Ogre Magi's mechanics

>dota
>RNG
only RNG is powerup runes and even that is easily manageable

You okay there user, need sci to track you down and call you an ambulance?

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you watch npcs fight
it's basically setting up npcs wars in gmod

Auto Chess is a remake of a WC3 custom game, which was remade in Dota, and then added to League. Retards.

Pseudo rng is still rng you fucking retard

>both games are trash
Why does every LoL faggot use this shitty ass "defense"
>LOL DOTA IS FUCKING SHITTY, RNG FEST OMG TURN RATIO
>But! I think both games are shit though lmao, just think LoL is less shit :^)
You can badmouth your game all you want, it won't make DotA2 somehow as shitty as yours. Have at least some team pride ffs

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tft is soulless and you have to download league just to play it.

there are no original ideas cucky

Not too mention every humanoid unit looks the fucking same

it isn't by definition. you will always hit that 777, unlike actual rng i.e. how slot machines work. in dota and other games with psuedo-rng, the gambler's fallacy is not fallacy, but truth.

Any protips or anything on getting gud at Underlords?

moron

>even Paladins
We never catch a break

Well, the league one seems easier to understand from the very start, ui seems better made too, but maybe valve's still working on it.

>and you have to download league just to play it

This is my biggest problem with it.
I just want a fucking barely 1gb game for my autistic slot machine simulator.

>o vey my attacks missed uphill causing me to not get enough gold for a crucial item
>o vey my opponent got the exact rune he needed
>o vey i went to pick up a rune but it spawned on the other side
>o vey I didnt get the creep I needed as chen to gank mid
>o vey I got golems and 4 satys while jungling as alchemist
>o vey my opponent survived with 1 hp, if only i hit high on my attack
>o vey my opponent crit me 5 times in a row, guess its not rng since its pseudo!
> o vey my opponent dodged 6 times in a row, not rng though since its pseudo!
>o vey i survived because ogre didnt multicast!
>o vey my tp got cancelled when it had 0.2 seconds left because opponent first hit bashed me,
>o vey we teamwiped the enemy teams but roshan timer got max duration so we cant capitalize on it

Paladins has an eSports team? Weren't the hitboxes in that game the size of a country?

when's my gatcha autochess game where i can collect waifus and watch them fight waves of mobs? fuck all this pvp shit.

Don't walk in fully committed to a built (Arc/CM/Kotl, Demons, Full heartless with human buff etc), adapt
DON'T save to 50 if it means you'll be at sub 30 health early. a 2 star can be the difference from repelling a team and getting stomped out taking 5-10 damage

somebody is tripping balls

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>positioning, vision and jungle management
Also who the fuck relies on ogre god damn magi for multicasting damage? Ignite hits all units in an AoE regardless, and pyroblast is more for the stun than for the damage

Is this what you get paid to do instead of work on half life 3?

That's the risk of creating a new genre. Everybody can ape you for free.

As it is with every fucking mod, they don't own it. They don't have copyright or patent or whatever. Pretty damn simple

I guess the only winning move is not to play

Dota has a UI that you can actually read, and a board that's actually to scale.
League's plays and looks like the rushed Chinese garbage it is.

Thanks. Is there like a tier list of synergies so I know not what to get lured by?

Wouldn't be much of a genre if it was just 1 game
Drodo wanted a healthy competition, and Valve expected LoL to -surprise surprise- copy them at anything they did because Morello and Guinsoo have 0 creativity
Epic got in because they have an entire nation's GDP in their coffers and don't have any OC apart from some super back-of-the-barn works they are adamant can wait

What kind of stupidly broken shit can you do in the TFT one? I know you can actually put more than one item on your champ so I guess you can have "solo carries" more often?

So far I've seen some of the most hilariously dumb shit happen in Underlords games.

arc warden and cm is the funniest shit

Depends what you get in the first 10 odd rounds, i won with pic, but had i positioned my units better i'd have won with a heartless/knight combo last game
AoE reigns supreme past round 30, so always keep a kunkka, lich, gyro or Tide on hand since Alch and Enigma's aoe is slow tick and smallish area

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I think you're missing the point, the issue isn't with Valve chasing trends

>Laughs in KotL Medusa

Are knights and mages still broken in virginlords?

nah, there was another two patches today. seems the most balanced so far. even dragons are better

Nope, Euls made the first map and it got massively popular. Then Guinsoo took all the moet popular heroes from different variations. Why do you think it was called Dota All Stars. Ice frog took over after Guinsoo fucked off.

The first dota thing was a starcraft map made by aeon64 called aeon of strife which no one played
Euls then copied it into warcraft 3 and renamed it dota and fucked off and dota had numerous people who took care of it after that including guinsoo and icefrog

Isn't Eul in Valve as well?

who knows who are in dota 2's skeleton crew

Yup, he was shown at one of the TIs.

Icefraud, Eul, and the one janitor they have are all that make up the Dota 2 team.

Eul made the first iteration
Morello came and did some tidying up
Guinsoo came and called it allstars
It wasn't until Icefrog came that the game went from a random jumbling of AoS, hero community designs, and a wildly disablanced map, and was given some semblance of form and focus

Eul and Icefrog, the people who actually did fine tuning and design, are with Valve
Guinsoo and Morello, the people who just took other peoples ideas and claimed them as their own, are with Riot
And Pendragon, the fucking snake in the grass that changed the dota website to a LoL ad for a month, is with Riot as well, alleged sucking off morello whenever his master beckons

Moneybags from Epic over a job at E-commerce website valve any day

Guinsoo is the one that did the things that you claim icefrog did, icefrog just carried it over, if you're gonna do a history lesson don't be a biased piece of shit

>Guinsoo is the creator of DotA Allstars. He started to develop this map from 2004 until 2005 (6.01). He recruited Icefrog--the current DotA and Dota 2 lead developer--to assist with programming in 2005. Later that year, he left the project and passed the lead developer position to Neichus, who continued to develop with IceFrog
>Think of a cool idea
>Tell someone else to do it while telling a company you did that thing
>Leave
My history is in check bro, but i can see how you'd think it's bias with Guinsoo's jizz blotching your eyes

The original mod is still the best version but many have quit to underlords or TFT because of the hassle of having to set up lobbies and sometimes playing on shitty servers.

Fuck off Valve and Tencent shill

I thought the mobile version of Drodo's game is alive and kicking?

You can't be a shill from 2 competing companies
Then again, you're a summer fag, so just delete your comment and hit [a/ up

Why should Epic or Valve care about making unique games? They make more not caring about making games and selling you others work.

Dont forget about Valve fucking up every mods with any major patch

You clearly have bias' against them, right off the bat you assume a whole plethora of things. You must be real fun in arguments

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Because when you have a popular game that only you access, you guarantee revenue along with depleting revenue from your competitors, thus ensuring their possibility of making your game killer is delayed, if not destroyed
If you let someone else make that game, you either have to fork over a large sum to keep them on retainer, or pray they don't talk to other companies

BASED DOTACHAD

How will Riotgays ever recover?

>we live in a timeline where chinese literal who's are being ripped off by 2 of the biggest game devs in the world
How did it get so bad?

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That timeline could have happened earlier if Blizzard weren't so fucking retarded and let Dota split away from their grasp.

league players are subhuman

imagine supporting company run by chinese commies. I'm just supporting company who is not supporting chinese

>Blizzard weren't so fucking retarded
You're describing something impossible, like water that isn't wet or fire that isn't hot

Delusions of riot drones holy fuck

Search for Eul on google you delusional fuck

>vg247.com/2019/06/26/heroes-storm-failed-probably-late-mike-morhaime/
>“First of all, I think the Heroes team made a great game,” Morhaime said. “One of my regrets is that we didn’t pursue Dota early enough. Dota was very popular and we were very focused on World of Warcraft at the time – there were more people playing Dota than Warcraft 3.”
>“And frankly we had our hands full trying to support the growth of World of Warcraft. We felt like focusing on Warcraft was the right call at the time. In retrospect – boy, if I could go back in time and say, ‘You know what? Why don’t we have a small team that’s focused on doing something with Dota? Or why don’t we include Dota with the launch of StarCraft 2 and have a mode or something?’ I’d love to try doing that a little bit earlier. I think Heroes was probably too late.”

Someone must have been fucking LIVID because of Dota 2.

>"Eul is the original inventor of Defense of the Ancients (DotA). He developed his map inspired by Aeon of Strife (AoS), a Starcraft custom map developed by a mapmaker named Aeon64"
Imagine if you will, a Riot drone that DOESN'T move goalposts in his argument

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They haven't been shy about it. They were so mad they tried to Trademark D.o.t.A. as their own, and when that fell through, they sideline negotiated with Valve to let them have "DOTA", and then almost immediately threatened lawsuits over names like "Doombringer" "Necrolyte" and fucking "Skeleton King", hoping name changes would weaken the DOTA game

imagine a Riotdrone BTFOing himself by posting this
LOL

That's not credit. that's just ripping off, Vavle for once did it right and actually talked to the guy.