Explain to me why I should care about censorship in video games of all things

Explain to me why I should care about censorship in video games of all things

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you shouldnt, cause most censorship is directed towards pedo stuff. DMC5 was the only real case of censorship and sony changed that one back.

>pedo stuff
It's just drawings.

because all censorship is bad, it's that simple

Because you ought to want games as they are meant to be. You should want games that buyer and creator are most happy with, not games that are diluted by another uniformed party with bad ideas.

but if the censorship doesnt affect the gameplay, why should I care?

Obviously games aren't something you care about, so don't. Care about censorship in the things you enjoy, hence why Yea Forums, a video games board, is against it.

There's no point in appealing to the shortsighted apathetic until it happens to them.
Now check my 5.

you are a fag and i dont listen to fags

Because it interferes with the artists' vision and thus you get a product which is almost inherently inferior because it has been compromised.

brainlet argument, if it doesn't affect the gameplay why did it have to be censored?

>Explain to me why I should care about anything of all things
Just Etika yourself.

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Watch the thread die here.

its not though, this is a misconception people use to allow and hand wave a lot of the censorship going on because they don't want to accept that perfectly okay shit is being stomped out just because they personally don't care for the stuff themselves

So if you care about censorship in other things, why dont you care when its video games?

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not all censorship affects the gameplay

if you're one of those "literally only the game mechanics themselves matter" people you can just go play fucking pong or something while we discuss about big boy modern games retard
games are more than their stripped down most basic mechanics

name one game whose gameplay was censored

>sony changed that one back.
They only changed it back for the american release, not EU.

>doesn't answer him

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>only gameplay matters
This is not the fucking 80s anymore, games have stories. Get with the times grandpa

Fire Emblem Fates touching mechanic.

Despite the fact that you have erected some retarded ass goalposts I'll answer your fucking question
Fire emblem fates

Then why did it have to be censored?

there are other things that can be censored that arent gameplay

Censorship makes game souless.

I want to play a game what has adventure, characters, everything as natural idea of creator, not some forced diversity shit approved by some council of raging feminazis or other lefturds and have game full of souless character what their only description is being black/trans/female/vegan/Muslim/gay.
I want to have video games where creator put his entire soul without any limitations.

Of course it's not a problem to put for example trans character but make him something more than just being trans (one of nice examples of trans characters made right are bon clay or Ivankow from one piece, they are something more than just being trans).

Don't limit creators, let them pour soul into their games.

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senran kagura had its intimacy mode fucked with

I would also argue that the fanservice is an integral part of the gameplay experience of DOAX 3, and the PS4 version has had several elements removed or censored. Even broadening our perspective, we could say that the modern culture of censorship and "ethical" games caused the entire game to be censored in the West since the publisher just didn't want to subject themselves to that bullshit.

Regardless of the effect on gameplay, why should they be censored? Take for instance a breast size slider or a sexy outfit. If these things are optional and not at all necessary, if people don't want to see them, they don't have to. Why then should they be removed so that the people that DO want to experience them miss out?

Answer the question.

you shouldn't. it would require you to have at least 1/2 a nut in your weak, nutless little body

The developers made an experience for you and a third party wants to cover your eyes... because he personally doesn't like it. Why should some Californian nega-men decide what's appropriate for you? What fucking say does he have in it?
Why should content be cut out of media that you bought (and it's ONLY cut out in the version you buy, nowhere else, but it's the same price) because pic related decided it was offensive?

This doesn't even solely extend to vidya tiddies. FFXIV had a character be censored to hell and back, without Square's knowledge, because the localization guys thought it was "problematic". COINCIDENTALLY, the english audience thought that his entire storyline sucked ass while he was a beloved character in Japan.

The Danmachi game immediately comes to mind. The entire character relationship minigame system was cut out. But I know you're going to switch to "it's weebshit/a game that doesn't appeal to me so who cares".

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how can anyone be so stupid that they don't understand why censorship is bad?

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You wanna know why censorship is bad? Because it only escalates from there. Thats how it all starts. First they censor something you agree that should be censored, then they start censoring stuff you sort of agree with but you know, its not that big of a deal. But the ball keeps on rolling and rolling until the people that are censoring things start to realize that they can censor whatever they want because they believe it should be, regardless of how many people disagree. Censoring can easily lead to thought policing.

Go fuck and suck yourself

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Because it censors the creators that made the game.

Some guy thinks they know what you should be able to see.

You're assumedly not a fucking child who needs to be told what to look at.

If video games are art then they shouldn't be censored. I don't care either way but there needs to be consistency.

they arent

Now if game journos could get their heads out their asses and stop sucking off shitty walking sims because "muh artistic merit" and "social impact" that'd be great.

You shouldnt bc this is vidya censorship:
>character has clothes on and is never nude
>more clothes added
>incels seethe even though literal pornography exists and is widely available where no clothes are worn and you can see actual boobs and vagina

Allowing censorship in any game means your favorite game can be affected down the road.

>mfw Sony was the company that got massive third party support because they would allow anything
>they've become the censors

Censorship is bad because it makes it harder to jack off.

you haven't actually considered fapping to vidya, have you?

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>considered

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You shouldnt just GTFO

The whole "Are video games art?" Debate is stupid anyways. Art is the most subjective thing in the world. Art to one person is garbage to another. Sometimes literally.

Regardless of all that, I just want to look at some digital titties every so often. Is that so bad? Am I really hurting anyone? Why do some people see it as their moral imperative to harass developers into censoring games that they don't even have any intention of playing?

you can look at them in other media

With the first link the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought denied, inexorably chains us all.

Did you think those "most shameful vidya fap" threads were ironic?

so you admit there is censorship

its just a matter of time before you get banned for benign retarded shit because "being toxic" is ambiguous as fuck and for a reason

But you never see vidya titties because they were always covered anyway?

>pedo stuff
All retail releases have to be cleared by rating boards (ESRB, PEGI, CERO, etc.) before they're allowed on the market. Every single game Sony censored was already approved for mature audiences, meaning no illegal content was found in any of these titles before Sony took it upon themselves to interfere.

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Two reasons. First and foremost, it's paramount that publishers respect the work of the developers they owe their success to. The more interference these teams endure, the less of their vision will be represented in the final product. Second, the only people who support censorship post primarily on ResetEra.

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>planescape torment? nah, just go read bro
>detroit: become human? just go watch a movie bro
>guitar hero? just listen to music bro
>art academy? just go draw bro lol

Why can't we have both? What is so wrong with that?

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Then why censor them at all?

wait, is this a...

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yes but unironically

The word "pedo" refers to your perversion, not to the presence of real-life victims.

Successfully censoring 1 thing often means they'll try to censor other things

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This is precisely why this line of reasoning will backfire when everyone else sees you're only complaining all the time about muh anime titties being censored so nobody will take you seriously, and by the time something that isn't otakubait is getting censored everyone will be reminded of cringelords like you poisoning the well on this discussion and refuse to openly stand against any censorship in order to avoid being associated with people like you

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Explain to me why i should give a shit what you think about anything.

I wont even (you) the posts... but why would you openly admit to be an incel?

>WAAAAAAAAH MUH VIDEO GAMES!!!!!!!!! THE ESS JAY DOUBLE YOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!! COMMIEFORNIA AND SONY CENSORING!!!!!!!!!!!
grow the fuck up stupid fuck

Did someone say... censure?

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See If anyone is trying to poison the well, it's you.

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They fucked with DOA. It isn't just "pedo stuff".

Dilate

the fuck is this gay cuck shit

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Okay. Still not a pedo though

Omega Labyrinth was censored out of existence

if i have to choice between killing a pedo and you ยก i would instantly choose to kill you with no regret.

You should care about censorship of anything because it is never necessary at any given time.

Holy shit bros I finally get it.
Sony is trying to cuck us into thinking censorship is good!

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Thank god modding exists on PC

Probably just a ResetEra user trying to get the thread deleted after getting BTFO by virgins.

Wolfenstein
Manhunt 2
Leisure suit larry
Postal

Sneed's feed and seed, formerly chuck's.

Trying to delete a thread with SFW pics is pretty hardcore

>Muh artist integrity
I don't give a shit about some japanese fuck i'll never have the probability of meeting. As long as the gameplay is still fun it shouldn't matter.
If you have a problem with it and you can't have fun without seeing exposed titties then vote with your wallet, capitalism wins at the end of the day anyways.

I've seen threads get nuked for less. Besides, from his point of view, that shit is hardcore.

>vote with your wallet,
You cant if you are not even aware that the game is censored

>I don't give a shit about some japanese fuck i'll never have the probability of meeting.
You and every other liberal.

>As long as the gameplay is still fun it shouldn't matter.
Then why censor anything at all?

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Have sex

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then why would it bother me if it's censored

I see is a bunch of incels sad they can't have virtual sex with anime girls.

Jesus christ user. Read a book.

It already bothers you, otherwise why did you make this thread?

None of the games censored by Sony contained sexually explicit material. If they had, CERO would've thrown a hissy fit.

What's wrong with having virtual sex with anime girls? Why does it bother you?

Because one day it might not be sex being censored.

it bothers me that Yea Forums shitposters are always crying about fake censorship

Why and what examples qualify as "fake" to you?

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inb4 "shit I don't like".

tifa

who told you should care?

I've always wondered, do games actually have to be approved by the ESRB for retail release? I could have sworn that it's just that brick and motar stores refuse to sell games not rated by the ESRB. But if they really wanted to, they could sell unrated games.

I wasn't willing to call that censorship myself at first, but with Square admitting a few days ago that aspects of her redesign were edicts from the ethics department, that now qualifies.

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>But if they really wanted to, they could sell unrated games.
Only Steam can as far as I know. Even digital-only games have to be rated if they're going to be sold on any console or handled.

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Doesn't seem like it's mandatory, but you'd likely be shooting yourself in the foot if you tried.

But it's not fake, your only argument is you don't care about it. Well others clearly do, so

>ethics department
>for a fucking videogame company
at this point i'm just curious what other retarded shit the upcoming years will bring to the industry