If this game sells well...

This
Censorship is not real. It's just you people being paranoid.

No one is censoring video games.

We are already getting classic female bikinis in MK11 so who cares.

Explain who is being censored when you say reducing tifa's breast size is censoring.

seriously? they fucking put burqas on all the women to just sell the old ones as dlc??

such a great move

No one wants you here, /pol/.

>article
It literally can't be for a lower age rating unless you want to say Square is admitting the content in the trailer they showed is a lie and not in the game.

Tifa never had tits and they never were reduced. There's also no such thing as an ethics committee. It's just your imagination.

>t. seething Tranny

It will sell well regardless. I will not be purchasing it, but I'm only one man.

>its another tifa thread about "censorship"
can you faggots just admit you don't give a shit about FF7 and only know tiufa through fanart and porn?

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Kill yourself

It works user, niggas complain and give you free publicity then you just put in the shit you wanted to begin with.

Tifa's design got butchered thanks to that ethics department. And no, I don't mean the shrinkage of her tits, that's been happening since Advent Children and given the remake follows the same visual style, it was completely accepted.

But god almighty I hate the outfit changes. Especially the black undershirt. I think it's ugly. I think it clashes hard with everything else despite matching the overall color scheme. And even as much as I like ZR and pleated skirts, I hate them in Tifa's new design. I just don't like it.

But whatever, I'm not the target audience for this travesty. SE made that very clear when they decided to change the game completely instead of doing something faithful. I'm not looking forward to 5 years from now when we have a bunch of people proclaiming themselves huge fans of FFVII while having only played the butchered remake. Fuck everything.

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I'm only here posting that the excuse of lower age ratings is bullshit.

So what if that's the case? Why does that make Tifa's censorship OK?

Kill yourself faggot.
Make your own thread if you want to talk about gayshit.
I can't imagine someone being this mad at because people are degenerates like you.

>Millimeters
Look man, I know you don't give a fuck about Tifa, but it ain't millimeters. Stop fucking with iconic character designs, and if it's not such a big deal, then why does it have to be reduced?

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it isn't censored and you can't prove that it is

Tifa is sacred. For many guys like myself she was the first waifu and I don't think they should have changed anything.

If they put in her classic costume and it's available from the start then it would be okay.

Ethics department told the Devs that they had to restrict Tifa's boobs, it wasn't an artistic decision. That's censorship.

There's not a goddamn thing about FF that's sacred to SE, unfortunately.

>god almighty I hate the outfit changes.
I get this and agree to a point, but as a fan of big tit fetish porn, I actually love the bra. If you actually google high impact sports bras for huge tits, they look like that. They've got like 20 front clips that compress and hold those massive titties in place. What I hate about the design is those stupid fucking leggings and that goofy skirt.

IMO ultimate Tifa has:
>Sports bra
>Thicc thighs and firm arms (she's fucking /fit/)
>Abs

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>he still believes the mistranslation

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haha
It's always been like this. You stupid nigger faggot.

It's the fact that it has that black undershirt outlining the white top. I think it's ugly. If they'd just put her in a white sports bra-like top and keep the general look, it'd be so much less offensive. Or hell, even just color the undershirt white. That's all that bothers me about it, user. It breaks up the look in a very bad way.

Not him but did they tell them to alter their artistic vision? Before you say yes, ask yourself, did the devs want to have tifa's tits jiggling in combat?

Censorship is just a marketing ploy for JP companies to scam more money from you by making the sexualized costumes as Paid DLC

Why was it the Ethics department that decided this and not the Devs themselves? ETHICS, not ARTISTIC department. They gave a nice sounding talking point, but in reality they were concerned about the US release and the Trannies and SJWs that would throw a shitfit. Plenty of other "unnatural" things in the game as well that they aren't going to do anything about I'm sure. Also, Tifa is a fucking stick, she doesn't look like a fighter at all. Where's her visible muscle tone? If they really cared about making her look "natural" then she'd be way more toned than she is.

this, how the fuck do you know what the devs wanted?

That pic has been debunked. Go see what the japs are saying on twitter. They all mention and joke aobut an ethics committee. The stuff on your pic is just misinfo.

>black undershirt
That's not a shirt, man. THAT's the bra. That's what high impact sports bras look like. Google it.

there's no mistranslation, that says exactly what everyone has been saying since the beginning
you idiots just pretend it's somehow justifiable with a piss poor "realism" claim, the original game be damned

And if Dissidia NT bombs, it means that everybody hates the old Tifa design, yes

prove it

It is going to sell well and it's going to be great, seethe more low iq titscucks

I've heard so many conflicting things on what it is, whatever, user. I don't CARE what it is, or how hard it makes your dick, I just think the combination is ugly.

The entire reason the ETHICS department told the Devs to make the change was because of fear over Tranny and SJW backlash. Why would they then proceed to release Tifa's problematic appearance as DLC, setting off said Trannies and SJWs? If they're going to release it as DLC then they'd have just released Tifa as is from the start.

Of course, if Trump wins in 2020 then that'll change the game entirely. Ethics department will stop giving a shit entirely and realize the US won't be an issue.

Enell makes the best sports bras for huge tits. When you're rockin' Tifa sized tits, you need some heavy duty gear.

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Alright then. You have fun with that, user. But it's kind of a moot point.

The fact that Devs had to be TOLD by Ethics department in the first place instead of deciding for themselves. If the Devs wanted this change then they'd have been the ones telling players from the very start.

The absolutely autism of people talking about Tifa's tits and sports bra.

She's not a real person, it doesn't matter what size her tits are, she doesn't feel it. If she's jumping around in the game she's not going to have a sore back the next day

I mean, I feel you, man, but these are the sort of bras that Tifa would 100% need if she's going to be doing all that anime fighting.

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are you from resertera?

This, After seeing the Team Ninja stuff part of me thinks the Ethics Committee isn't actually that. It's Sony.
Think about it. Every single dev that hasn't outright named Sony what kind of language do they use when talking about the censorship? It's very cautious language, carefully phrased to not burn bridges and says its an "outside influence" or some unidentified entity, they don't name who it is because we know. It fits too perfectly with the same shit every other dev has said that we can say beyond a shadow of a doubt it was Sony behind this shit.
The overly defensive way people have been acting since TN and KT showed their Tifa gives this theory even more credibility.

I really don't care, user. It's a fantasy game. I just want the outfit to not look like shit.

THEY DIDN'T CENSOR ANYTHING

ALL THEY DID WAS MAKE HER SHIRT TIGHTER

STOP POSTING THIS MEME

YOU ARE DOING THIS ON PURPOSE

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Holy shit, even Yea Forums is not as bad as this

you're free to leave, unlike your precious muslim sisters

Yeah but in the end, does it matter?

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>Japanese are memeing about an ethics committee
>BUT THE TRANSLATION WASN'T RIGHT
Why would moon rune speaking Japs need a translation?

The ethics commity doesn't exist, it's just a guy that liaisons with Sony censors.

>make no mention of making her breasts smaller during an interview
>all observations that her breasts are smaller are now immediately and forever invalid

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Just because dragons and magic and all that other shit exists, doesn't mean you can just do whatever the fuck you want. Internal consistency and verisimilitude are still important.

When you read this in context it's pretty clear that what the ethics department more or less said is that having Tifa in a tiny white tank top without a heavy duty and having her tits not just wildly jiggle and flop all over the place would be super unrealistic and that they would need to tame those tits. Which I genuinely get. If you're going to a realistic style, it would be pretty weird to have Tifa's tits just magically stay put while she's fucking Naruto rolling over the screen and yeeting monsters across room mid cartwheel with her heels.

Is there no nuance in your sad little world?

>I just want the outfit to not look like shit.
Fair enough. I get that. I'm just saying that it would be pretty bad design to not address those massive tits during your redesign.

>FF8 remake where Rinoa is wearing a burqa.

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Because not everyone is a horny 14 year old like you. You fucking faggot.

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exactly, they didn't tell them to shrink her tits, which is what everyone is crying about

>Internal consistency
>if someone with twig arms can supplex a robot she could easily carry her tits without issue
>verisimilitude
>A woman in a cyberpunk world who's poor as shit is totally the same as a woman who lives an middle-upperclass life.
You are high on cocaine

burqas are my fetish

That genuinely makes no sense. I don't know why you assume I'm a horny 14 year old. If you can't respect her with her canon tits, that's your personal issue. I just want a character I love not to be misrepresented and censored.

Feel free to present an argument though.

His point, and honestly my complaint too, is it's this big black thing leaking out from under her small white top. I wouldn't mind the existence of a sports bra or anything, but it just looks shit

This is Yea Forums. Only pubescent horniness wins out in the end here.

My point is that any high impact sports bra will be that size. So their choice is to make her shirt bigger or have the bra show, and if you're going to make the bra show, high contrast (black under white) just looks better from a design stand point that going white on white.

and split into several parts.

If the faithfulness of the adaptation to you begins and ends at her fucking bust size then maybe you're not the person they're making this game for in the first place you fucking mongoloid.

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But user, sticking your dick in a hole makes you super not-horny and if you like anime but then stick your dick in a hole you then hate it because everyone's brain is easily changed by magical substances found by cumming inside a random's hole.
Seriously though, do these retards not realize how mentally weak they sound that putting your dick in a hole changes the entire way you think as well as changing every single thing you like and enjoy?

All you trannies, you resetera knights of justice, you smoothie drinkers, you guys need help in the head. Nobody wants you here, but you still come here anyway and post your filth. Just crawl back to your containment boards, leave us alone, stop trying to invade this place, you are wasting your time, your "invasion" is only hurting you instead of helping your shitty cause. Whatever kicks you getting from staying in this place, one day you'll realize it never plugged that hole inside of your heart and hopefully you'll move on. Peace.

Nu-Tifa is better in every way. Rope, incels.

>someone changes for the worse
>japs on their own imageboards immediately blame the west and meme about ethics departments existing
>Yea Forums believes all of it and takes it literally

Imagine japs coming here in hope to find gigachad

>having standards is now resetra
Ok tranny. Nobody will sink so low as to desire you though

>bad design to not address those massive tits
>high impact sports bra will be that size
What part of "fantasy" do you not understand?

>Taking journalism this seriously
Yikes from me dog

The problem with that then comes from lack of color balance as it becomes a black dominant color pallet which is what Cloud has instead of a more balanced but white/lighter focused design which contrasts better with Cloud.

>People still using the realism excuse

do you any of these characters look realistic to you?

and why is Tifa breast the only things in this game that to obey physics when even tifa herself doesn't?

It's a bullshit excuse

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>What part of "fantasy" do you not understand?
The part where you don't seem to get that for the fantasy elements to work the setting has to be grounded. You do this by having the mundane behave the same as it does in our world. Meaning that even if you have characters shooting lightning out of their tits and flying on rocket motorcycles clothes and general physics must be the same as they are in the real world. That means you've got to put a big bra over those massive mammaries if you want her flipping around the screen.

But user, THERE'S FANTASY IN MY FANTASY I CAN'T HAVE THAT

>general physics must be the same as they are in the real world.

No one in FF7 obeys physics

>The problem with that then comes from lack of color balance as it becomes a black dominant color pallet
Oh, shit. You're right. That's why it looks off. I don't know what the solution is, but yeah. Good point.

>cloud no longer has fully gravity and physics defying hair
>barret is no longer proportioned like a giant humanoid block

The people in denial that censorship is happening, fucking lmao.

Why do you assume such a thing? I simply corrected you in being wrong about her chest size.

Her face needs a rework, her boots and gauntlets are fucked, etc. There are a lot of things that could use an adjustment. Take a chill pill user, I haven't insulted you personally yet.

So your point is that the ethics committee imposed this change, just to remind artists and animators that boobs can infact move?

>No one in FF7 obeys physics
Except for literally everyone all the time. It's only the central characters that break the rules to do anime shit and even while they do, their clothes and the objects around them behave normally. That's the point. When you go realistic all the background shit has to follow real world rules otherwise the player/viewer realizes that it's all bullshit and the entire plot loses all stakes because literally anything could happen at any time.

>Clouds sword look even more looks even more ridiculous
>Barrets gun is even bigger than it was before and he walks around with it like it weighs nothing

FF isn't really known for big titty girls though. Tifa, Lulu, and Aranea are really the only 3 that could be considered busty.

>clothes and general physics must be the same as they are in the real world
Funny you say that WHILE defending Tifa's new design.
>Clothes must be grounded
>her boots will fall off
>leggings will fall down and become an irritation
>She does a handstand kick on a grate and her bracelet gets caught in it.
WHERE'S THE REALISM? WHERE'S THE GROUNDING?

The "Ethics Committee' didn't impose anything, they were consulted on the design and they said that giving Tifa a sports bra would be a good idea if they want her doing acrobatic shit. That's it.

Big titties is pleb tier, athletic girls are best.

>their clothes and the objects around them behave normally
Tifa's new design literally doesn't

Are you seriously suggesting that in the real world shoes, stockings, and jewelry are physically impossible? What?

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Source where?

>FF isn't really known for big titty girls though
>procedes to mention the two most famous FF female characters

>The "Ethics Committee' didn't impose anything,
see they just "asked"

>they were consulted on the design
Why would a ethics committee care other than toning her down?

We good?

/pol/ absolutely ruined Yea Forums.
Fuck you moot.
Fuck you RapeApe.
下げる。

that literally says the opposite

I dunno. Try actually reading it maybe.

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Try reading it again
>BOOTS
Those fucking thing's are looser than a horny guys pyjama pants, they're falling off guranteed especially from that kind of acrobatic fighting style.
>STOCKINGS
They'll slip down her leg causing irritation which is the last thing a fighter should have to go through. No fighter would willingly wear leggings like that you want to wear as little as possible on your source of attacks(legs and arms)
>BRACELETS
>Tifa gets punched and sent into a fence
>bracelet gets caught in chain link
>Now she needs to use her other hand to break free
Do you seriously think that's a GOOD IDEA IN FIGHT? That's fucking retarded.

I did

Yes, that's the real problem.
Not a decade of development hell, not scummy episodic format, not very sparse gameplay footage despite nearing release.
Tifa's tits, this matters!

You are free to leave.

Your kind are not welcome here and you will never be welcome here.

Imagine talking about Tifa's tits, ethics committees and all of this shit every single day with the same exact people having the same exact arguments.

>all this damage control over Nomura's slip

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That's what happens when you censor shit

>claims its a mistranslation
>Japs are memeing about an ethics commitee censoring Tifa
Think VERY CAREFULLY about why you're a fucking retard here.

I didn't censor it.

>censor
retard

youtube is demonetizing risque and violent video games so companies are self censoring in an attempt to avoid it.

>nobody is talking about /pol/
>somehow associates liking tits with /pol/
>cryes /pol/ at the sight of any thread mentioning anything industry related
Yes, this is what Yea Forums is all about, crying about /pol/, you truly are le epix 4channer of old.

Sorry I meant localiz- I mean "redesign"

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But the original was rated T for teen, are they going for K-A now?
I smell bullshit.
>le degenerate XD
Back to red dit fag.

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Reminder that redesigned Tifa's top shows off MORE skin than FFVII Tifa.

The final product matters more, yes.

>BOOTS
I wonder if there exists some classification of human that wears some kind of boot like garment into combat...I can't think of it. Maybe some kind of army that might wear some kind of...oh, I don't know...maybe a, let's call it a "combat boot." I think maybe they could engage in rigorous physical activity and hand to hand combat while wearing such garments.

>STOCKINGS
Yes, I see your point. I've literally never seen some kind of thigh high stocking type legwear before. I don't even know how such a thing would exist or stay up for that matter...it would need some kind of elastic like band to hold it to the thigh....but alas, as you have pointed out such technology is simply beyond us.

>BRACELETS
Again, I'm stumped. I mean, what sort of serious fighting force would ever wear some kind of metal chain around a vulnerable area like the wrist or the neck when they're so easy to snag? Who have a fighting force wear some kind of oh, let's call them "dog tags" around those areas when they could so easily be snagged?

You're right. I give up. You're just too smart.

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I meant it's not known for having very many busty females, despite the popularity of Tifa and Lulu.

at the cost of even more skin

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>Tifa is a malnourished stick
>Supposed to be a trained martial artist
realism

Oh yes, skin! Give me all the skin all the time mommy! I like skin! Oh shit skin is so hot! Skin skin skin skin skin don't you loooove skin?

Hopefully yes

Okay.

It is bullshit
FF7 was originally CERO B, this is because despite the content the level of detail was so non-existent and there was no blood or anything that it doesn't seem anything too crazy. In this new style it's a CERO C minimum.
If anyone were to claim that FF7R was trying to get an A or B rating then that entire E3 trailer is a lie and not happening.
Then if they're saying Tifa needs to be changed to fit a C rating, that's even further bullshit has we have Neps, Gust, Atlus, Bamco and many other anime games that show far more skin than original Tifa ever did.
The rating argument is a lie.

the realism excuse is bullshit

why is it every time SE decides to censor a character they use a sport bra and spats?

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can somebody for the love of god explain to me what the fuck is an "ethics department"?

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No but whether it succeeds or fails The ethics department will be the scape goat for every little nuisance that Yea Forums doesn't like about Square games from now on.

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they are in charge removing breast physics

>censor
You keep using that word I don't think it means what you think it means

Bureaucracy is expanding to satisfy the needs of an expanding bureaucracy.

>Combat boots
You mean the tight fitting NEVER LOOSE kind of boot? You mean like the kind of boot that TIFA ISN'T WEARING in this design?
>elastic will work
Think carefully here
Why would you wear something like that WHEN DOING HIGHLY ACROBATIC COMBAT?
>Bracelets are the same as Dog tags that are kept UNDER THE SHIRT
You thought it was a gotcha but you haven't been looking at the existing design, let alone know fuck all about fighting.
Look at Tifa's boots in , are you seriously calling those loose looking things combat boots?
Are you seriously thinking those stockings are safe to wear in intense combat as an acrobatic fighter?
Are you seriously saying that bracelets worn OVER clothing and armor isn't a rape waiting to happen?

So, according to /pol/, if you like women at all you're a "degenerate". So /pol/ wants all men to be cock-sucking faggots?

Every excuse has been BS and easily killed.

>anything I don't like is /pol/

you're the same idiots who kept calling shit like this localization

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>Hardedge in Reactor No.5
wew lad

so they have the say over what's factually "ethical" and what's not? isnt it some kind of religion type shit except even more authoritarian?

Yea Forums died after GG

Hey guys, wanna play bingo?

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Sony
Look at how the other devs have spoken about censorship when they don't outright name Sony. It's the same kind of cautious language they've all used.

You're the same pathetic incel who keeps crying about shit like this in-between having cope or rope conversations on incel subreddits.

where are that bitches nipples

What the fuck is an incel?

AT WHAT POINT DID PRIME MINISTER ABE OR PRESIDENT TRUMP TELL SE TO MAKE THE CHANGES TO TIFA OR YOUR SHITTY LOLI EXAMPLE YOU FUCKING TWO BRAIN CELL RETARD ?!

If you're going to cry about something at least know what the fuck you're talking about, this is why FFVII is going to be left completely intact the way it is because no one would take you retards seriously because you're screaming and crying about something that literally didn't even happen.

>bouncing breasts are unethical
I just don't know what to say anymore. This is literal victorian puritanism but there's no real reasons for it like diseases that can kill you in days. It's just petty envy and sexual insecurities magnified a hundred fold and projected onto the culture.

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anyone you don't like

Just don't buy the fucking game if you don't like what they're doing with it instead of crying about your fapbait in a million identical threads, fucks sake.

Under the black cloth. It's like you know nothing

You're not fooling anyone, crybaby.

if youre bothered this much by a cartoon game for children you deserve to be unhappy.

/pol/ itself gleefully proclaims it wons Yea Forums and is everywhere, so what are you trying to defend?

show me one pair of healthy tiddies where the nipples are at the very bottom of the tit

Holy shit you're really one of those idiots who think only the government can censor shit.

It's anime, not real life.

>Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient". Censorship can be conducted by a government, private institutions, and corporations.

show me one pair of healthy and attractive anime tiddies where the nipples are at the very bottom of the tit

what's the point when I win every time?

>/pol/ itself gleefully proclaims it wons Yea Forums and is everywhere
Source?
Did someone (literally one person) make a thread claiming that?
And what do you mean by "/pol/ proclaims"? Do you think there's some kind of organization or hyrarchy with a spokesperson?
It's literally single users trying to bait you.
OP didn't mention /pol/ and Tifa's tits is clearly not a /pol/ issue.

Back to /pol/

>If you're going to cry about something at least know what the fuck you're talking about
You first, you little faglette. Nowhere in the definition or history of word censorship has it ever been delegated only to the government. In fact, historically speaking private organizations censor things way more often than any government entity. Supreme Court decisions typically favor free speech and freedom of expression.
>Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient".[2][3][4] Censorship can be conducted by a government[5], private institutions, and corporations.

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You want your boobs? Go play 3rd Birthday, then.

So why are /pol/locks here?

>suppression of speech, public communication, or other information
Which one of these has to do with breast?

Don't even dare to try and die on that hill, faggot

Ding ding ding!

You really are stupider than shit if you don't know what censorship means.

I would personally beat the shit out of anyone I come across who denies there is any censorship.

It's amazing, how many people on Yea Forums cheer for the censorship of their hobby. Self-hating morons or "stigginit" idiots?

Where?
Tifa's tits is clearly not a /pol/ issue.

>it's real because I believe it

People are aware now that this type of shit turns off female players. Your cawk and how hard it gets are no longer important to literally anyone but you.

Now either grow up or fuck off, but do one of the two.

>he walks around with it like it weighs nothing
Barret's a big guy.

Nah, people just don't care. Only the biggest weeb autists on the planet give a fuck about Tifa's tits being smaller.

Answer the question stop dodging, or is it because you can't because changing a fictional characters chest size has nothing to do with actual censorship

I find it more amazing how people cry over fake 3D tits being smaller, "have sex" has literally not applied any harder than this entire pathetic board.

SE doesn't. Sony does.

Where do you think you are?

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>imagine being so insecure about the image you see in the mirror every morning that even a video game character’s breast size bother you to the point you need to visit these game studios to have a “conversation” about this

whats wrong with today’s women? don’t they know these characters aren’t real? like bitch, these digital drawing aren’t the reason you ain’t getting any, you just an ugly hoe, thats all.

that goes double for trannies.

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If this was Tifa in Kingdom Hearts 3, yeah sure, I believe the age ratings bullshit. Her Dissidia model is great, meaning they actively decided not to use it specifically for the Remake, meaning that 1. They are fucking retarded, 2. Someone (California Sony) told them that TITTY BAD, TITTY VERY BAD FOR FEELINGS

I'm not buying this bullshit lie.

>I accept censorship if it BTFOs all of my perceived enemies! like O-M-G you people need to have the humpie-bumpies because that solves all problems, my tranny friends told me so xD xD xD!

>Calls Yea Forums that wants big boobs cancer
>Name calls rebuttal a Tranny

kek

Where do YOU think you are? You're clearly in the minority here, sperging weeb. Not even Yea Forums is a safe space with a similar mindset as you.

>Nomura specifically states he shrank them and slapped a big obtrusive black sports bra on her because of an ethics committee's demands
>"LOOK IT'S NOT CENSORSHIP BECAUSE I SAID SO MAKE HUMPIES!!"

no one wants you guys here, it's sad that we have to spell it out for you

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>Japanese ethic departments have moved on from censoring violence to censoring sex
Although it's funny that you fucking cunts think the ethics department is new even though they've been censoring shit in Japan for decades to get lower cero ratings.

As evidenced by the very few threads about this issue, that consistently get just a few replies.

UUUU

>asked
That's not a demand, so when I ask "Can you kill yourself please" i'm actually demanding it by your point of view

Why would they need to ask him to censor her? What's so horribly sinful and child-warping about her tits?

These people don't even BUY the games they complain about, though.

Won't SE eventually go bankrupt?

The problem here is the "sex" involved is already CERO B by default without the outfit changes.
FF7 literally cannot get a CERO A unless you want a game so utterly butchered it looks more like a Looney Tunes short than Final Fantasy. FF7R is a CERO C game. Nothing they do to Tifa can lower that rating since the C comes from violent content.

Looks like a good catalog if you disagree you're a fag

They want TORtanic since it was one of the best things to ever happen.

>THEY DIDN'T CENSOR ANYTHING

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>Child warping
The game's rated 15+. It literally can never be rated all ages or 12+ based on the trailer they've shown.

>still using incorrect translations
Nomura literally said binding. He didn't say reduce or shrunk. If he had the characters would have been a completely different word, but he used the Japanese term for breast binding.
The entire shit was about jiggle physics.

CERO ratings have already gotten stricter, just like television standards in Japan. This is the 2020 Olympics clean up.

The OTHER question I want to ask is is this the future of Final Fantasy? I hate this EPISODIC GARBAGE.

Honest to high heaven, I won't be buying this episodic bullshit that's going to be obviously FULL OF FILLER to "justify" it's price and having multiple episodes. However another concern is fresh new Final Fantasy games being like this. Remember SE tried to do this shit before with Final Fantasy XIII and the entire Lightning Saga that consumed the entire PS3 gen.

Maybe this is it, I think I'm finished with Final Fantasy because I refuse to reward SE for this pile of obviously cash grab corporate greed bullshit.

And I have to ask, anyone else? Do you really like that FF7 is episodic and it succeeding "justifies" future FF projects to be this way? I simply cannot tolerate this and frankly I'll forever hate any gamer who supports this shit with their money.

Bitch I will fight you.

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Because 95% of the posts in each thread isn't people calling tards like you incels and to have sex.

>CERO ratings have already gotten stricter
Tell me user, what rating is Atelier Ryza? What rating is Azur Lane Cross Wave? What rating is Persona 5: The Royal?
All of those show more skin than Tifa, and if your claim is true, then FF7 can not get a rating lower than a C because of it's violent content.

Their ratings are sub-50/100 on Metacritic.

I just want people to stop saying SC6 is teen rating considering there are more countries in the world than just america.
In Japan SC6 is 17+.

Tbh I don't know why they didn't just give it an M rating.

Out of principle I will only give it the privilege of me playing it via torrent, only if there is a mod to make her titties big again and all the rest of the required fixes made.

user, we're talking about CERO here. Don't be a retard.

Violence doesn't seem to be a problem anymore, everyone's moved on to "Female bodies turn children into demon rape monsters".

But they still went out of their way to demand for toned down tits.
You are basically confirming they did it out of gealousy or personal preference.

>still repeating the same point over and over
Protip, it doesn't matter the exact specific way they did it, they still did it.

What fantasy world do you live in? Definetly not the Final Fantasy 7 world, because everything has to be realistic in that one apparently. (but only in convenient ways)

>incorrect translations
Nigger everywhere and everyone including Nomura calls it that.

>Answer the question stop dodging
Like how you dodged every other reply pointing out what a colossal fucktard you are and went for the low-hanging fruit?

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Yea Forums has always been like this you fucking assmongrel

NT is rated T, the same NT with OG Tifa and bouncing Tifa titties.

t. ultra triggered incel weebfag
no one else cares lmao

It's hot but does look ridiculous. I get the point of the redesign. Just think they went about it the wrong way.

>Violence doesn't seem to be a problem anymore
EXCEPT in Japan. CERO C is 15+, B is 12+, A is all ages and D is 17+.
Additionally Japan don't care about that faggotry, only Sunny D care about that shit.

>You are basically confirming they did it out of gealousy or personal preference.
Because they did. They being Sony.

>it's not censorship it's a mistranslation
>it's not censorship it's localization
>it's not censorship it's the ratings board
>it's not censorship if it's pedoshit

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>I never cared in the first place, that's why I'm arguing with you

It tells you that no one cares about trash, whether it has big tits in them or not, I.E, only incels like yourself throw a hissy fit when games don't cater to them.

No, people DON'T give a FUCK about "censorship" that pertain to breast size in game. I say PEOPLE, because incel weebs like yourself don't qualify. Every single thread like this is just an incel echo chamber, but the reality is, NO ONE cares. No one.

>only incels like yourself throw a hissy fit when games don't cater to them.
The projection here is amazing. Direct your attention to resetera and twitter where people are cheering for Tifa's redesign as a symbol of feminism and a blow against the evil male gender. Seems like your kind are the ones who rage against things that aren't made specifically for them.

>if I keep throwing my favorite meaningless buzzword around it destroys any and all opposition to my opinions and I am the complete victor!

Only the two extremes care, and they're both scum that should be launched into outer space. Normal people don't give a fuck.

>yeah, we only want women to cover up a little bit!

>because 95% of the posts in each thread isn't people calling tards like you incels and to have sex?
Now it's an echochamber?

Normal people like yourself, screeching and raging about BSAB?

>if I solely focus on things I don't like in your argument, then you don't have an argument!
Classic sub-80 IQ weeb.

>Incel, have sex
You ARE aware that sticking your dick in a hole doesn't actually change how you view the world, entertainment and what you love especially to the extent you claim, right?
Maybe you should be worried about how easily manipulated you are?

You heard it here first folks, apparently you lose all sexual attraction to well endowed women when you hit 15

Protip: constantly repeating words like "incel" in every single post doesn't make you sound intelligent or do anything to help your argument, all it does is show you have nothing and that you're only arguing out of rage and hate.

It immediately absolves you of the waifufag mentality and everything that comes with it. Have sex.

Oh no, I better settle down with some used up roastie quick so she can live a life of stability ASAP. Thank you to that user for telling me this highly important fact.

Fuck off trannies.

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>if you have sex you stop liking women
So you want all men to be butt pirate faggots.

It is. A tiny minority of people like you screech like there's no tomorrow in your echochambers, while people like me laugh at you.
It's an objective observation. You can continue being ignorant and live in your echo chamber where you think anyone on the planet cares about your censored animu tiddies.

Hey, you're the one who said that men should stop being attracted to women when they reach 15 years of age.

No, it ends your obsession with fake titties. You should try living in the real world. It's nice. Just like how all the feminazis should also have sex. Both sides of the spectrum are equally obnoxiousm, and in the real world, no one cares about either side of the argument.

>constantly aprrots himself and his favorite bizzwords, ignoring anything anyone says
>"LOL YOU ARE IN ECHO!!"
The irony is both sad and hilarious. These people are demanding we stop finding women attractive while also telling us to fuck women and accept censorship.

>t. incel

No, it doesn't. Exclusively virgins believe this. It changes nothing about you.

>can't sustain an argument because he has to throw buzzwords and insults at the slightest disagreement
>REEEE YOU ARE SCREECHING I'M LAUGHING AT YOU

Women don't play these games anyway.

what is this suppose to represent

Funny, I've fucked many women and I still find Tifa attractive. Guess your magical cure is a bust, just like the right wing's obsession with electrocuting gay people.

>It immediately absolves you of the waifufag mentality and everything that comes with it
user, I'm sorry to say this but, you've been manipulated.
>When you fuck someone everything you like just disappears and you become a generic blank slate that likes normalfag shit
I fucked my girlfriend last night. Know what I did after we woke up?Ordered both of us Omega Labyrinth Life's Collectors Edition. THEN we went for another round as her thanks to me for buying it.
Maybe you're the one who hasn't had sex since you seem to think it's this huge brain altering activity.

The only thing that's hilarious here is your mental gymnastics to remain ignorant in your little bubble. Your cause will never matter. No one will ever care. Neither side of the spectrum is worthwhile life forms. You amount to nothing, and nothing you ever say or do will change anything about MUH CENSORED ANIMU TIDDUES.

user, I was agreeing with you. I was joining you in mocking that faggot saying you stop liking hot chicks at 14.

I fear censorship is going to continue unless the entire industry as a whole suffers a major crash

>aybe you're the one who hasn't had sex since you seem to think it's this huge brain altering activity.
Normal people don't sperg at the sight of censored fake tits. You do. Be normal.

An objective observation of what exactly? Anonymous posts on an image board? Are you some savant that knows the intimate details of everyone's lives whom post here? You're only making yourself look like a fucking idiot to be honest.

Meanwhile you're so invested in screaming BSAB nonstop, just as autistically as you claim we're being.

Thoughts?

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What are fake titties? Plenty of real women with big naturals friend

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Go play hentai games, you charlatan.

>just like the right wing's obsession with electrocuting gay people
Now user, you know that's a fetish right?

Normal people don't sperg out like you're doing, either.

Ding ding ding!

>obsession with fake titties.

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>ignore censorship, consume productt, do not question

>Be normal.
But what is normal? Is it listening to those who tell you what to think? If that is considered normal then, I'd rather not be normal, since I value not being a lobotomized retard.

lmao nice fridge shoulders

No, it's not because she's "in motion".

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I don't think any pf the changes are the travesty you think they are. Tifa looks like what Tifa would look like if this game were made with the tech we have today, which is the pint.

>Excuse was they shrunk her tits so there's no clipping
REALLY NOW?

Normal people don't play ff7, or barely know what ff is. Using anything from ff as a guage of normalcy is stupid.

Except that's hardly the case. We know what Tifa looks like if this game were made with the tech we have today, Team Ninja and Koei-Tecmo showed us exactly what it looks like. It looks pretty nice. S-E's job was a shitshow.

>People are aware now that this type of shit turns off female players
Oh, do you speak for all female players now? Fuck off.

Square Enix is and always has been an old school Japanese corporation. I think some of you just don't realize the full implications of that as graphics are more realistic and the potential market is larger.

hey guise did anyone mention realism yet in this thread? xd also it's fine for all the guys to be super ripped and carrying around hundred of pounds of weapons but we GOT to have muh "REALISTIC" boobies because she's a FIGHTER but that doesn't mean she needs bigger arms and legs no no no Cx thanks y'all- I mean, f-f-faggo-... gays!

I don't even care about her tits. I dislike her face, legs and outfit.

That's what happens when you have a board where majority of users are horny twitch watching zoom zooms.

>People are aware now that this type of shit turns off female players.
Tell that to Compile Heart and their female fans, and Gust and their female fans and Marvelous and their female fans and Atlus and their female fans, etc.

chinks just have that issue of making every character look asian with pencil legs outside of anime

>if this game sells well
>if

ive got bad news for you friend.

for u

I don't think I understand what you are saying, are you implying big tits are not real?

Isn't that always the case they argue?

>still posting this miserably wrong translation as if it is authentic one

As a Japanese (yes, I am an actual Japanese, not a gaijin who accidentally got to be able to speak some Japanese unlike this translator), I will say this translation was intentionally mistranslated.

In this translation, "激しいアクションでも不自然にならないように胸部を締める必要がありました" was translated into "we make sure her top wasn't loose so that her chest wouldn't come off as unnatural during heavy action sequences" though, the original Japanese clearly said "胸部を締める必要がありました" so the literal and authentic translation is "in order for it not to appear unnatural in heavy action sequences, we needed to tighten her chest" It's a big mystery why this translator perfectly omitted the part "胸部を締める必要がありました" and really euphemistically translated it.

And, an another really dubious point is as for "指示" which was translated into "Our ethics department had asked". in Japanese, "指示" is really a strong word, unlike just "asking", that give a sense of "must" to listeners, so I will not translate "指示" to "ask" as in this translation, but translate it to "direction" which have a more strong implication of obligation. It is obvious that in the original Japanese they had no choice but to accept an offer from the ethic department.

TLDR: this translation is simply wrong.

>literally translating japanese
shut the fuck up you stupid idiot.

Thanks, screencapped.

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I don't think it's a travesty but she could use a touch up here and there. I don't think that part is debatable.

But no, she wouldn't look like this if the original FFVII were made with today's tech. Not in the chest, the legs, and specially not the face considering the style FFVII went with.

the faggot lashes out as you disprove his narrative

Imagine being such a fucking loser that you feel outrage over smaller tits. Every fucking day I see these threads. You need to kill yourself

eat shit for life, bitch

>As a Japanese (yes, I am an actual Japanese
Bullshit right from the start

if liking big tits is wrong I don't want to be right

The best part is they're not even smaller
>b-but muh fmv tifa!
Was obviously off model. How can I be sure? Simple, she was only that big in the fmv. Not even when she made cameos in other games was she that stacked.

If you can't see the difference between liking big tits and arguing/defending them for hours, you're retarded.

>Changine tit size to meet ratings

I call bullshit. Theres tons of T rated games that has females with big bouncing tits and those get released just fine.

What they should have done was given her pants to fully cover her legs up. Miniskirts are whore clothing, and should not be allowed on women. This is the fault of you western men, you allowed women to dress like sluts, and now pay the price. This is why Islam is the proper path to set women right.

Tit size wasn't changed though.

>you really think someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?

no matter what you say you cant change the fact they said "胸部を締める必要がありました". they needed to tighten or constrict her chest. and it was a sort of obligation to them from "ethic" department. there is not any sign indicating it was done by a purely artistic vision, besides political reasons.

literally translating a language to another language isn't always a 1 for 1 direct translation, you should know this if you speak any other language

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They behave as a Japanese corporation would behave. Next you can argue that Princess Peach isn't thicc enough. Same answer to that.

That's why instead of just creating an english sentence, he added notes to explain the nuance.

well, then I will say that that above translation does not meet what the original Japanese means and implies. it is just a wrong translation.

Does anybody understand what this fag is saying? Explain with small brain words pls.

You're retarded

All of you people should be reading the quran and the hadiths and learning, instead of fighting over how some whore in a game dresses.

is the person who made this image retarded?
do they know how actual cloths work compared to latex?

So you're saying that ASK was correct when as Nip-user said the word in Japanese used was a far more authoritative word than ask. You can argue "literally translating another language" however poorly translating another language to create a disingenuous interpretation is far, far worse.

I think the image is implying the Honoka censor is real, I don't know if it is, but it certainly would not surprise me.

Nip-user can you give me your views on this statement.
If(aka before you BTFO that faggot) the mistranslation excuse was true, then why would the Japanese be memeing about an ethics department when they don't need a translation in the first place?

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468375490
t.mentally addicted gamer
have gf once in a while pls

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So in order to appear "realistic", they shrank her tits and didn't put in any motion. So can someone answer me why in the year of our Lord 2019 it's still next to impossible for devs to program collision detection that prevents clipping, and why they're only concerned with "realism" in regards to Tifa's tits while Cloud over there has no muscle mass yet can heft and swing a massive sword larger and thicker than himself with one hand and there's a talking lion-wolf and a cat robot riding a stuffed mutant?

Wait a second. It's been too long since I played FF7.
Cait's a robot?

Model glitching.

you can kiss Celes' leotard goodbye if/when VI gets remade

Well... Yeah. He's the remote control "toy" that Shinra operative is controlling. The moogle under him is just a monster.

Trannies are not female

I don't believe I forgot that. My fault for not playing it in the last 10 years. Thanks user.

why do you keep posting this shitty botched translation that even completely fabricates entire sentences to explicitly leave out stuff like を締 (restrict).

yeah, there is no need to meme "ethic department" if that was done by a purely artistic and designing intentions. most Japanese read it like "political correctness did it again" as far as I observe discussions in Japanese language sphere. well, there are the people saying nu-tifa design is ok because if to make nu-Tifa according to the original design it would be ridiculous (too big boobs and looks a slut) but that is not related to the matter of how ridiculous the mysterious ethic department sounds to Japanese, and how the existence of it is justified.

He did take it into account, but made the sentence into "top wasn't loose".
締める doesn't strictly mean "restrict" but rather to fasten or to tighten.
限る would be more proper for restrict.

Why are the virgin freaks of Yea Forums so obsessed that a video games characters already ample breasts aren't freakishly and cartoonishly big, saggy monstrosities

This user is right 指示 zhi shi is literally "instruct" or " direct" from the above. They don't just "kindly asked"

test

Because, despite your pathetic efforts to make everything boring, there is still fun in this word.

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>As a Japanese
>so I will not translate "指示" to "ask" as in this translation, but translate it to "direction"
I can buy this. I have nothing to complain since this is somewhat right. I don't remember 指示 being all that strict, but it could also depend on the people I hanged out with. They were pretty sloppy to begin with.

Thank you Nip-user

no he's a fucking faggot. instead of writing restrict, tighten, restrain, inhibit, limit or anything approaching a proper translation he wrote "make sure the top wasn't loose" the most blatant way you could downplay and misrepresent the translation. they weren't talking about the tops fabric being loose. they were talking about her tits being restrained.

You should never be okay with any censorship at all I don't care what it is. We already know Sony is doing shit and yeah Tifa doesn't look bad. You should still speak out about it though because it's the correct thing to do, you wouldn't have sided with all the conservative freaks in the early 2000s that called for video game bans and censoring? Would you?

It bothers me people only care about things when its things that they care about it. By then it's too late, you should be speaking out against all forms of censorship because its a bad thing.

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Show me them selling alternate character endings (Jax/Wakanda alternative) and it'll complete the masterstroke.

Neither did the guy translating.
But his translation is somewhat sloppy. They literally says "the chest part" being loose. Which you can just translate into "top".

Because we're not homo or trans

Or as a correction "chest area".

they were talking about her chest. her tits.
chest does not translate to top. a top is an item of clothing not a part of your anatomy.

I made a correction

The absolute state of Yea Forums defending obvious censorship. Japanese image boards are Chad and immediately called it out.

Meanwhile in the Sóy West
>b-but it's realistic to have an ugly undershirt because muh sports bra

you are right. all of these "realism" discourses are simply fabricated in order to fit with their ideology which is strongly against the idea of depicting a woman character in the way of appeasing male audiences. its always about the "sexuality", not "realism", unlike some people aggressively argue. you have to acknowledge Tifa boobs bouncing is not OK just because it is sexism not because of anti-realism when cloud's stupidly styled hair is not bouncing at all during a battle, but somehow these people are reluctant to admit their real reasons.

Yeah, when it effects them, then they speak out. I'm against the retardedness of Japan censoring their porn too. Not very political myself. I'm just against censorship myself.

It is realistic. It just looks dumb with the black outlines.
I'm happy with the the remake how it looks either way.

>big tiddy character appears
>"Ugh, why does she have to be so unrealistic? Not every woman has to have big breasts you know?"
>western cucks nerf tiddies
>"And that's a good thing."
>repeat with every hot big-breasted girl
>"So nice to have a variety of body types for women now days. Praise ethics!"
>no female characters with big tiddies exist
This is the future we are headed towards, at least among AAA games.

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Have sex, tits any bigger than that are disgusting and saggy

Ok pedo.

>you're a cancer that's rotting the society.
>tits in animu and games are literally haram
>people acting like the worst degenerates irl is ok
I really wonder wo is the cancer

But at the same time
>big tiddy character gets changed breasts
>"Ugh, why does she have to be so unrealistic? Not every woman has to have big breasts you know?"

So what if it's realistic? You said yourself it looks BAD. It's a fucking fantasy game.

>in the same game as a talking tiger and giant moogle rode by a talking cat, this woman's breasts must be realistically supported by an ugly sports bra
No ulterior motive there of course. Fuck this game.

Especially bad when we have evidence that at least some of the kind of males who support this are actual pedos.

Go play Dissidia then. You do have the choice to not play the game.

No, they won’t correlate the two things one bit

Didn't take long for "Muh titties" autists to stop pretending the dissidia design had massive honkers.
Why do I get the feeling all of this is incredibly manufactured because discussing AAA just triggers poors?

>realistic
Why do shillcucks keep parroting this word like it's an actual argument?

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Yea Forums is an anime website for degenerates, pls leave

No shit. I'm a huge fan of the original and the remake looks terrible in every possible way, and I'm not at all surprised.

I'm not. I'm just telling you it is realistic. I didn't say it was a good thing.

>I'm a huge fan of the original and the remake looks terrible in every possible way
So am I and think the game looks fine. As long as the characters' personalities are intact and I can tell who is who, I'm all up for it. If I wanted a pure version of the original game, I'd just play the PS1 version.

There is. It's not a job, it's people with other jobs in the company volunteering for it.

The problem is that the word 'realistic' has become butchered to suit the desires of those who want a specific thing to be realistic, as said. Or in other words, big breasts aren't realistic (despite women with Cs or even Ds or larger existing irl), but that's the only thing that needs to be realistic. The word, in that sense, just means they don't want big breasts; realism has nothing to do with it.

Because they're so used to getting their way and using simple one liners like a Super Hero to do away with their opponents that they think it counts.
Then when someone knowledgeable on the subject shows up they start saying "WHO CARES INCEL" because these retards always double down.
Remember they think they're not just good guys but heroes of justice fighting against the evil oppressors.
They're more delusional than a chuunibyo thinking he has a demon sealed in his right hand.

It is also probably a group to appease the retarded CERO rules.

The Nazis were trying to be like the Greeks after all

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>The problem is that the word 'realistic' has become butchered to suit the desires of those who want a specific thing to be realistic
Like the word "censorship". You can be annoyed by the word "realistic" as much as you want. I think misusing the word "censorship" is more of an issue.
In the end, I think they are toning it down because of CERO. Nintendo had to tone Smash down because of CERO too. Yea Forums gives SJW too much credit when the rating system in Japan is almost as retarded as the Australian rating system.

The original game is extremely flawed and could've justified a remake easily, for about a million reasons without fucking with the designs and basic gameplay.

>lego bricks graphics
>outright broken glitches that let you skip entire parts of the game
>very very imbalanced materia set ups
>great, but low quality music
>original localization was botched

Pic related, left is what FF7R could've been, center is original FF7, right is FF7R

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Is left ff6?

>guys it's not the SJW of today! It's the SJW from 20 years ago!

You do know how CERO works right?
CERO are ONLY ANAL with A ratings. Anything more and they're apathy goes up until you hit D where it's just
>Are there nipples
no
>is there sex or foreplay
no
>is there cum
There's things that look like cum but it's not cum
>Here's your D rating
Learn your shit before speaking.
FF7R will get a CERO C minimum. Tifa, Aerith and Yuffie's original designs are all CERO B safe. The C will come from violent content. The excuse is literal BS.
Proof of the original designs being CERO C safe
>Azur Lane Cross Wave
>Atelier Ryza
>Persona 5: The Royal
All have characters who show more or equal amounts of skin than/as each of them

>You do know how CERO works right?
I obviously do know better than you if that checklist is your assumption how handing out ratings work. Or even assuming there are one and the same group of people rating all games being released within the organization.

CERO are only anal for CERO A. FF7R will be CERO C based on everything the trailer showed MINIMUM. There is 0 need to tone down the original designs which are CERO B safe even with the original designs, for a CERO C game. Don't fucking lie.
Here's a pic from a CERO B game. Now say the same thing with this knowledge.

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It absolutely isn't, because "misusing the word censorship" isn't actually affecting anything. This concept of "realism" however is. You say it's being toned down for CERO, but that does correlate a bit too well with the modern Western sensibility. And really, can you seriously blame CERO? Samus got by in Smash 4 with her fat chest, yet why would she be turned into an ironing board in Ultimate? Because CERO decided her tits were too big?

Basically, maybe the gap between CERO and SJWs isn't that large.

>Or even assuming there are one and the same group of people rating all games being released within the organization.

>It absolutely isn't, because "misusing the word censorship" isn't actually affecting anything.
Opinion discarded. Won't even read the rest.

>somewhat right
>［名］(スル)
> 1 物事をそれとさししめすこと。「地図上の一点を指示する」
> 2 さしずすること。命令。「指示に従う」「指示を与える」「部下に指示する」

it is basically "order" from above.

>Lilly still best girl

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Sure it could justify something like that. Would have been lazy as fuck too. Also would have been the most boring and safest route.

Like I said, it could be because of the people around me where I worked which made the word feel less meaningful. So my opinion was from experience, but the usage of the word by dictionary is correct.

>lazy and boring
>to remake a game that sold 10m copies and has tons of potential to be improved

CERO D is an incredibly lenient rating for sexual content with CERO Z only existing for heavy gore content.
Dungeon Travellers 2 and 2-2 have exactly that very "it's not cum, it just looks like it" guess what rating it got? CERO D. Castle Panzer and Seven Pirates with it's eggs that "totally don't break into what looks like cum on their tits and ass" CERO D.
Please post proof of your understanding of CERO that counters this argument that isn't just "well maybe there are different people, HA GOTCHA"
CERO is very clear in it's rules and regulations. They are incredibly consistent with their ratings on sexual content.

>misusing the word realism
>where female characters are constantly getting breast reductions, being covered in bulky clothing and otherwise having unappealing designs, which are especially blatant in some cases where the same logic used for them doesn't apply to males (see: MK11)
>versus the word censorship being misused
>where nothing happens ever
No no, it's fine, you just have no rebuttable.

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user, CERO is really tolerant in terms of sexuality. the boob size and whether it is shaking or not does not affect the rating in general. in the first place, DIssidia NT, which will have more big and sexy tifa, is rated as C.

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Dissidia NT is not fucking bigger, I don't know what the fuck you niggers are smoking. She just has her original outfit.

Bingo, this user is the most intelligent out of you bunch of faggots.
Realism is only trotted out as an excuse for censorship and only applied to those things that are offensive to the party calling for "realism".

Okay, my point being shouting "censorship" is like crying wolf. It lose all meaning and eventually when real censorship happens, no one will even know it happened.

Now I've lost all hope, I guess that's going to be a pirate for me then, I'm cancelling my turbo autist first class edition pre-order. Call me when the japs cry hard enough on twitter and they end up fixing her tits, thighs and remove the knee highs. A woman who happens to have big breast in a game doesn't mean said game isn't suitable for kids or pre-teens. Fuck the west, fuck the SJWs, fuck square for bending over and getting fucked in the ass, fuck people who defend this, fuck you and fuck this world.

Not once did I say realism was an excuse for censorship.
But I do have an issue with people misusing the word "censorship" everytime something people don't like happens.
It's like nazi, racism, fascism and shit has lost all meaning. People keeps misusing the words so we just assume it's a fucking buzzword by now.

B-but user, someone else might work there, let's just ignore how incredibly consistent CERO are with their ratings. Also we need to mention Smash which got a CERO A and is the only rating CERO are particularly anal about as if it's the exact same as a CERO C.

Because if they admitted their real reasons they would have to admit that they're for censorship of an artistic medium which is totally not "good guy fight evil meanies" at all. It's all just tiresome mental gymnastics.

It is 100% not because of cero. There are games that have gotten away with much worse and scored B/C ratings, and there's no way in fuck an original costumed Tifa with jiggly tits would get the game slapped with a D rating.

This

Big saggy tits are saggy, big tits are not saggy.

Basically. Tifa's design wasn't changed to appeal to CERO. It was changed to appeal to the cancer that has spread from the faggots and landwhales in California.

>preordering games
You are already a corporate cocksucker.

I never pre-order games, I just wanted to pre-order this on in honor of my childhood.

>corporate cocksucker
Everyone is a corporate cocksucker, but some are too ashamed to admit it. Video game industry isn't the only corporate industry.

you are a foreigner, but I am a Japanese. I dont think your experience is legit considering there is a high possibility that people around you are just overlookin your impolite and socially unacceptable manners and actings because after all they think you are a just gaijin who cannot understand Japanese rule.

I would say that, in terms of business circumstances, when 指示 is sent to you" by someone, it has a really strong sense of obligation, really close to "must". you cannot ignore it.

Go back to nii-chan you baka fuck

I'm not disagreeing with you one bit. I even said you are correct while adding personal experience.
I'm also fully aware Japanese people cut foreigners some slack. The funny thing is, I'm from a country which is fairly similar to Japan in terms of mannerism. It's just that Japan takes mannerism one or two steps beyond.

>cannot
I think you want to go with, does not, instead of cannot. Unless you wanted to be rude.

it is bigger though.
plus it will be bouncing during a battle and has exposed legs unlike nerfed nu-tifa.
anyway, remember this game was approved by CERO as rating T. there is nothing obstacle to have bigger tits.

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Not the guy arguing cero. I'm just saying nt Tifa really doesn't have bigger tits, and that's just you liking her original outfit.

well, you will be fired or relegated from the position you are in, then. if you can ignore it freely as you want and you will not be punished by that act, their business doesnt properly work.

>CERO as rating T
C(which is 15+), which is what FF7R is getting at minimum.
Supporting your argument but the letters are A through D with Z as the special exclusion for gore rating.
Sorry, autism

sorry, xenoblade 2 was rated as C not T. anyway my point still stands.

Doesn't would mean you are willfully ignoring. It means something you don't usually do. Cannot means the inability to, which can be more rude.

That's why you should boycott the game

correction, wouldn't.

But they say "fuck" in the trailer and there's going to be blood everywhere.

Xenoblade 2 is C with is a mutant between T and M.

>twitter
why go to that shithole?

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She has the biggest tits in a Final Fantasy game since Lulu
It's a step forward

Jesus christ did none of you actually do some research?
"Ethic" committees are just a group that oversees some usual global rating stuff the term just sorta slip in the translation
If you're asking if games gonna still have ratings like the past decades or so then yes

>Jesus christ did none of you actually do some research?
How about you read the thread since this false information was debunked already?

Exactly as SE planned it. it's actually a classic technique, misdirection. People are focusing so much on Tifa's boobs that Squeenix can casually spill out red flags and most don't care, just more focused on polygon boob length.
Enjoy your Chuck E Cheese Honey Bee Inn.

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We're already on one shithole, what difference does another make?

>to hide the new unappealing aspects of the product we will make the game even more unappealing!
>I'm not sure this would wor-
>how about we make it so bad nobody plays it, so literally nobody will notice the bad parts
>give this guy a promotion

Great japan, now stop wasting your money on shitty ass gatcha garbage.

The main difference is that your opinions there will make you have an army of blue haired superheavy tanks of flesh after your ass, at least if you post them.
Going for lurking reasons to watch the shitshow its ok i guess.

Imagine thinking women play video games.

>Tifa is ruined
>TIFA RUINED? LET ME LIE FOR 300 THREADS ABOUT THIS BEING UNTRUE
> Well, the game overall is shit: episodic, compilation story, gameplay doesn't look that good, the other "games" don't even have a planed release date, there will be even more things censored
>HAVE SEX, INCEL, TIFA WAS NOT CENSORED! IT'S A LOCA- REDESIGN! (continues to lie/ be intellectually dishonest until the shit is released).

I mean, if you are forced to do it and not given any option than that, you are basically in the state of inability to do. if what you are pointing out is a part of "gaijin who cannot understand Japanese rule" then you are right though. its my rude.

>how to make Tifa's face young in setting
Kek. Nu-Tifa does have 30 years old look compare to the rest of the remake characters

>People are aware now that this type of shit turns off female players.
So a natural thing that all women have turns off women? You're insane. But that's to be expected from your type.

They actually bitched about Aerith looking to old too. Which I disagree with along with the Tifa. That's not really the problem.

The people lying only make the issue more visible because new threads keep being made and bumped, they definetly don't convince anybody that wasn't already guzzling s o y.
I still don't see how this is misdirection, it's just another aspect of the game that sucks, and it only makes it worse for SE.

>Jesus christ did none of you actually do some research?
Read

The first one will sell well just by being a AAA game, the question is if the other games will sell better.

Depends on how much the general population likes the gameplay. I mean you guys shit on undertale, but that shit sold a fuckload.

>"translated" posts
>ecchi
The Japanese characters that spell "ecchi" do not translate in English to "ecchi". Ecchi is not an English word.

Those are just translated through google.

lmao

>fast forward to 2018
>rotational lock on preventing any female model viewed in this direction in the model viewer in FF15
>guys are no problem

God bless modding.

Well, yeah. That's the objective and you only move forward from now on. They don't realize the disease will complain about not being enough since Tifa is "too athletic and thin" (which will be fixed in the second part).

Wow, Google's translate is still so bad it can't actually translate ecchi to lewd or sexy? How long has that damn translation database existed?

totally a coincidence, right? It's not like is happening in other companies and games.

It's relevant. Outfit/boob/face It's the combination of all these things.

F7R's Cloud is closer to his F7AC. They changed Aerith but she still has her FF7CC's aesthetic.
Tifa is changed completely. To me she looks like some Hapa cosplaying Tifa. That's why Nip praised Dissidia NT's Tifa because they keep her original/anime look.

>A bunch of retarded people have a bizarre obsession with fictional women's depiction
The lack of self awareness here is fucking hilarious

Ecchi is just a spelling for the letter "H" anyway.

Couldn't get enough praise to get it above a 3 star rating on amazon.

>Gamers in the SNES Censorship era:
>Censorship sucks, change it.
>Games that gave up on carrying water for the Moral Majority/Religious Right: created twenty year dynasty with goodwill from loyal fans across the spectrum

>"Gaymers" in 2019 a good quarter of whom run shitty indie/blog/youtube deals on the sides under which they suck face with corporations:
Well you see it's not reaaaaaaalllly censorship and why don't you all become a little more mature and blah blah
>Games in 2019 that continue to pander to Cancel Culture SJW/Victim Left:

Fill in the rest of this prophecy Yea Forums

I wish nuTifa's problam was her tits alone bitch is the worst Tifa ever they gotta do a new model+costume but 6 months before release i doubt is gonna happen . Square-enix is just brandead and theres nothing we can do about i mean just have a look to Team Ninja's model for Dissidia shit couldnt be simplier and everyone loves it wanna now why ? becosue it looks like Tifa.
You might be right becouse even that japs are falling for the meme

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still not sure why everyone is going on about censorship and ethics when we know in our hearts this is 90% Nomura's fetish with covered up sticc fashion models. Dissidia NT proves that neither Square nor their ethics board nor Snoy have any issues with Tifa's original design.

Aerith's dress is a bigger crime anyway

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"sequels" always sell worse than the first game.

If you play any Japanese game you might sometimes hear characters ask you for "shiji". That means give them *orders*.

Too bad the latest Dissidia is boring as fuck.

We've already gone through this. It is directions.

>im not self aware that i like bit tits
>im not self aware that there are woman with larger titis than the original tifa
>im not self aware that the average woman out there you can find is a single mother flat as a marble floor and with an attitude of a 8yo bitch and at least 2 kids from different fathers
>im not self aware that i prefer to jack off to fictional characters with big tits instead of dealing with any celebrity bullshit or that crap i dont care about and comunicate in the most complicated and indirect possible way to have the same feeling of a beef after 2 minutes in the microwave folded arround my dick and wiggly waggle it a bit
>im not self aware that the retard devs are totally unable to have something like an option to select between "i like big tits" or "im opressed by existing" because the rating system will still be mature and they want literal kids to play this shit so they introduce it to a "new generation of players" despite using the original players to hype the shit out of that game
Im not self aware i gues...

Man, her design really looks like shit when you can see all of it next to cloud and Barret like that.

She looks like a inverted Girl Scout or some kind of weird maid there to sell you cookies. That doesn't look athletic at all but overly prudish. The red shoes really fuck it up too now.

Like if they were going to go that far they might as well have removed the skirt, the suspenders, and the dumb anti gravity thigh highs (no way those would stay up under any realistic gravity) and gone 9/10th tacticool military to make this COD the RPG.

Nomura is the first man to admit if something is for his fetish, he knows after Lightning and all the fancy fashion ads and everything if he does something for his fetish and states it, we may hate it and shit on it, but it's then followed by a "sasuga Nomura" With Tifa however he DIDN'T admit to his fetish. That's why everyone is so certain there's fuckery a foot and it's not Nomura being Nomura. He hasn't danced like this before. So why is he dancing now especially when he knows the fans (begrudingly) accept Nomura being a chuuni fuck?

>ETHICS DEPARTMENT

imagine being so cucked you have to pay a whole room of niggers to tell you how cucked you are and that you must cuck your games

that's a cuckception if I ever saw one

>millimeters

I know the metric system is hard to understand for americans by you clearly missed by a large margin you idiot

It's been all but confirmed it was Sony at this point. The "Ethics Department" sounds exactly like everyone else dancing around outright burning their bridges with Sony and saying "those traitors are forcing us to censor our game". It's way too suspect.

The things have really changed in this short period. I miss the days where Japanese game developers did not give a fuck at all about political correctness to the point that a woman artist was happy to make textures of panties.

but, isn't this the right attitude? why, for what reason, have all western people and woman became to be ashamed of sexiness? Since then? Is it motivated by political, or rather, by religious notions? I am still wondering.

>Couldn't get enough praise to get it above a 3 star rating on amazon.
Because Dissidia NT's Tifa is DLC the base game sucks I don't deny.
Pic related It skyrocket to #1 on amazon after Tifa's Trailer.
Nips do vote with their wallet unlike Landwhales in the west

The SJWs win... for now.

Nips are extremely shallow if they play a game for one character alone.

>Something is changed in pop culture that makes it shit, when before, it was good.
>Han shooting second
>Ghostbusters were funny originally
>Anime was appealing

>The frog is slowly boiled over time
>Over time, people congregate to complain with like minded people in bursts, when said changes are pushed as though everyone loves them
>People, over time congregate to type a few lines on a hungarian bass fishing forum and laugh and meme about dumb corporations and their hangers-on doing censorship
>Other people spend all their time monitoring these threads and shilling against them, writing blog articles, youtubes, etc. etc. trying desperately to keep the bottle of public opinion corked.
>Censoring and downplaying metacritic
>Censoring everyone off social media in various formats

>There's a cottage industry of dunking on weebs and incels by the very same people that chase social status and popularity as a lifestyle and would formerly have nothing to do with the hobbies of weebs and incels until they became a dominant force in pop culture.
>Obsessed
>lol

Tifafags gotta retroactively shit all over the other characters just because Tifa's fucked up. Prior to E3 everyone liked how Cloud, Aeris, and Barret looked. Oh but Tifa's not a 10/10 so that means everyone else sucks now

>Ghostbusters were funny originally
First movie is great. Second movie is awful. The female reboot is boring.

>There are people that actually like Tifa's redesign
Absolutely mind boggling

I don't mind it, since I don't base a whole game on one character.

Nier:Automata was a bestseller for weeks not gonna say more .

It's the best version of Tifa since the original art style in FFVII

>user is possibly THAT stupid

To be fair, Nier had some top tier gameplay.

>bug eyed uncanny valley cunt is the best version
I'm not gonna stop you from buying it but you have shit taste if you think that that nonsensical redesign is even remotely good.
All the characters look like Aliens anyway it's gonna be a shit game.
Fuck squeenix
Fuck you
Fuck jannies
and fuck the mods.

If it's a ratings committee, every single game has passed through a similar process for years now.

What is your strategy at this point? Do you think people will suddenly accept your bullshit copy pasted "opinions" after 466 replies?

I don't base the whole game on one character.
Just retyping it since you obviously didn't read it.

it's called people disagreeing with you

"Realism" BTFO forever

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No, but everyone else are repeating the same shit, so why can't I?

Read the fucking thread.

You know, if they redesigned Tifa to have four arms, no tits, one leg etc, people wouldn't have an issue. It's not realistic, so it is fine.

Most people like the design, it's just a vocal minority who constantly whines about it.

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>With Tifa however he DIDN'T admit to his fetish.

>"We wanted Tifa to have abs, so she has an athletic body type."
Oh he did. Just that Nomura's idea of "athletic" is way different than mine or yours so she still just looks like one of his fashion models lol.
Maybe a more toned one, but still, Tifa is unironically what an athletic female fighter looks like to him. Not Gina Carano.

I don't like it but I accept it. I've gotten used to their women after the last two generations. even Lightning's big-head-on-a-sticc design doesn't phase me. I lost, Square won. Atleast Gust seems to know what's up.

That's not the kind of arguments people actually make in regards to these things though. There's suspension of disbelief, then there's using "realism" as a cover for a political agenda.

No one has suspension of disbelief in such a hyperbolic extreme as you propose, but having some tits flop around in a fantasy action game doesn't break anyone's suspension of disbelief.

>if I repeat it enough times it becomes true

I see what you mean, and I completely agree it doesn't destroy any kind of immersion if her tits bounces. But on the other hand, I don't mind the redesign either.
I'm mostly just here to eat popcorn.

If its a minority, why the "journo" blogs and all the fuzz about it?
Because as a minority can feel opressed and start something?

Everyone else keeps cherry picking too, so I don't see the difference in either side constantly saying the same shit over and over again.

I don't know what blogs you're reading Mr. ESL but everywhere I get my gaming news basically said the design (and the rest of the game) looked good in an E3 recap and have now moved on to other things.

the harsh truth is that just like how more realistic armor usually looks better than bikini armor, Tifa's tits being retrained by a sports bra will probably look better than if her boobs were flopping all over the place

No political agenda. They're just trying to not offend. Just like toning down Violence isn't pushing s political agenda. Still don't want them to do it.

>cherry picking
There's no cherry picking on either side.
What I see in these threads is the apologists keep losing 99% of the arguments and then give up and resort to name calling, just to post the exact same thing 10 minutes later.

The redesign in the close up pic doesn't bother me, but taken in the long range shot it looks like shit due to the anti-gravity stockings if I had to put my finger on only one thing killing it. You see that in the cheapest of weebstock like RPG maker and Tales games. There's something else wrong with it I just can't explain, I think it is the black and white making all the characters too dark like others have said.

I'm more bothered by the fact that they carry water for SJWs in private and say otherwise in public. That is just a sign of the whole industry eroding like when leftists sneak into anime fansub groups or worse get hired and change the meaning of stories to suit their politics.

you're an actual crazy person.

>I don't know what blogs you're reading
The ones that literally cucked the creator of this place like gawker?
And yea, if its coming to PC, it will be moded, so i can care less about it.

hard truth right here
all clothing = censorship

opinion on things is always subjective, which is surely true. but that phase has ended when it was turned out that a big part of redesign was done by the intention of making it fit with some political standards.

I don't read gawker. Also I'm pretty sure Gawker doesn't exist anymore. I don't read Kotaku either except occasionally when Yea Forums gets tricked into getting outraged over something they post

btw Yea Forums people who get tricked into getting literally mad about shit Kotaku writes: go look up the term shock jock

>Nomura is the first man to admit if something is for his fetish, he knows after Lightning and all the fancy fashion ads and everything if he does something for his fetish and states it, we may hate it and shit on it,
Nomura has been uninvolved with FFXIII for ages now. You're confusing him for somebody else.

If anything, Nomura has yet to come out as at the very least bisexual through his work in Kingdom Hearts.

>Literally: LOL Yea Forums GAWKER TROLE U. The post.

Don't forget to dilate and take your mones.

>opinion on things is always subjective
not necessarily
Kyrie Irving believes the Earth is flat. That's his opinion, and it's objectively wrong.

that's being pedantic though, I understand what you're saying. People's opinion over how good a design looks is always subjective.

>What I see in these threads is the apologists keep losing 99% of the arguments
Like I said, cherry picking.

it's the truth though. If you guys watched sports you'd be used to media trying to get people to pay attention to them by saying outlandish things to piss you off. The trick is to ignore it.

>99% of all cases is cherry picking

Making home made statistic without basis is also cherry picking. Now stop replying to me and continue making posts so I can continue laughing.

Jihl from XIII and Aranea from XV say hello

The fuck are you going on about "bisexual" he's a fucking chuunibyo. That's it.

Aaaand another one to the winning side.

>Tfw when you have to come to grips with the fact your waifu's design is obnoxiously plain aside from big bobs

Well the "trick" with Gawker was literally to continue to pile on until they were bankrupted and sold to Univision so I'm not so sure about that in all cases.

They'd rather we ignored this and just bought the game in this case. Lefty blog writers would rather we click on their "10 reasons Tifa's tits are still to big and you're a virigin" articles though, yes.

How much of a normalfag are you that your waifu is Tifa? kek.

There is no winning side. It's just retards arguing with other retards using words they don't know the meaning of.
If you think acting like a retard is winning, then go ahead. It's not like anything is changing arguing on a board like Yea Forums.

Maybe for the tit covering, but not everything else. The rest is definitely Nomura just wanting to go crazy with attachments. The stockings don't really do anything for age ratings and I would argue make for even more eroticism. The spats you could argue was a buffer for people who inevitably use Tactical Mode for panty shots, but spats can definitely be erotic too, and for that matter it actually IS better from an athletic monk type character to go spats and pleated skirt because the tight miniskirt would rip in half from the axe kicks and high kicks she ends up doing. Now you can get all sorts of nice butt shots. See, ya'll are low level in your perversion if you think that this stops her from being sexy. Hell, with the way that sports bra is being strained makes me think she's actually bigger, and we never really got any cleavage in the original, so this is still pretty good. Unless ya'll are trying to go for the reverse psychology with SJWs and saying you hate it so they don't ask for more clothes, then hey, I got ya.

>Well the "trick" with Gawker was literally to continue to pile on until they were bankrupted and sold to Univision so I'm not so sure about that in all cases.
doesn't that basically prove my point though? I never said the trick was always successful. But the fact that they went to such lengths to be provocative douches shows you what their goal was
>They'd rather we ignored this and just bought the game in this case. Lefty blog writers would rather we click on their "10 reasons Tifa's tits are still to big and you're a virigin" articles though, yes.
again I don't know what blogs you're reading. Yea Forums's the only place I've seen that has any amount of controversy over the design.

I wouldn't say "obnoxiously", but Tifa is one oft he biggest normalfag video game waifus you can have. Granted I say that because I've always found her obscenely overrated. Still, I won't defend her redesign just because I never thought she was that great.

Those are not incompatible.

yeah what I meant is not about positive analysis but normative. in that sense, aesthetics is subjective, even though we can still argue nu-tifa is not "proper" in terms of whether or not it can produce a real remake that is based on the original. anyway, my point is, this whole discussion has shifted to the matter of censorship, not pure aesthetics anymore.

What's that? I thought you were enjoying this? Why do you want out now?

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>Why do you want out now?
I'm not. I'm still here.

XIII-2, LR and XV all had a bunch of alternate outfits. Everything will be fine, just give Square $5.99 and you can have your sticc fighter without the stockings and sports bra.

You gave up any sense of meaning to the converation, saying it was useless and pointless, effectively giving up.

Leaving tits aside, the pleated skirt, the stockings, skull, bomb, and chocobo chains were Nomura going back to his The Bouncer days, since he did mention back in the day Tifa was very plain in compared to the other characters design wise.

>Maybe for the tit covering,
we have been discussing this for a while. it is clear that they were forced to do it due to political reasons see

I was never part of it. See you in the next thread.

I see, so that other user gave up 10 minutes ago? Good to know.

Not disagreeing, but quite a lot of it seems to be Nomura being Nomura outside of the boobs.

They made her flatter and flatter over the years just as her character's personality. This is the same character who would have a bitch slap contest against Elena of the Turks in front of raging Sapphire Weapon.

>Being more covered up actually makes her sexier so it's a good thing!
I feel like I've seen this logic before somewhere...

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Her stocking somewhat made her panties more visible. I have no idea how.

Barret also got covered more, but I'm sure you don't give a shit about that. Stick to the tits retard.