3D Pokemon was a mista-

>Top tier
Crystal Sprites
Stadium/Stadium 2 models

>High tier
DPP sprites
GS sprites
Colosseum/Gale of Darkness models
Battle Revolution models
Poketmonster Stadium (Original Pokemon Stadium) models

>mid tier
Yellow Sprites
RSE sprites
BW/BW2 sprites

>low tier
OG gen 1 sprites

>Flying Battle tier
XY~TOO COLD models

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But they dont have any animation aside from that.

BW2 sprites are better than gen 4 in pretty much every way, but you're correct that gen 2 has the best ones, especially Silver

SOULLESS - ALSO SOULLESS
For real, pixel trash has never even tried to get as good as metal slug did it. they just use it as a crutch for mire shekels, the 3s pokemon are just bitch basic plahdoh models

So both pixels AND 3D models are complete garbage. thanks for admitting video games are not and will never be art.

He would look great if he was just grey stone.
The colors remain stupid.

Gen IV and V were the best sprites

What was the point of going 3D if the models are going to stand entirely motionless anyway? Atleast when they were sprites they were full of color. Not to mention that a few of the 3D models look awkward while most of the final 2D games sprites all looked fantastic with the exception of a few tweened 5th gen sprites, which could of been fixed up in future games if they had stayed Sprite based, or you know GF gave a shit and had any kind of work ethic or ambition.

>why aren't the models moving nonstop in super-exaggerated ways like hyperactive JRPG protags on crack?!

>Imagine defending that 2D pixel fighting was more exciting then 3d model fighting
Your a fucking retard
I enjoy the 2D more cuz its more stylistic but 3D is superior in every way except for style

They don't stand motionless though. When they attack or get hit they move. Are you asking why do the pokemon stand idly when they're... idle?

Gen V was a mistake

you were a mistake

Better to have a few good things than a lot of shit.

I'll never forgive them for making Gengar borderline hot pink.

>Newer is better unga bunga
So many series were forced to adopt shitty 3d artstyles for the 3ds. Pokemon made the transition with more grace than others but Gamefreak are lazy fucks and every other Pokemon game with 3d models had a myriad of better animations for each pokemon than the actual mainline pokemon games. Suck a fat dick

are you stupid? every pokemon has an idle animation cycle

It's apparently to "match the official art" but the argument nobody seems to make is that official art is actual art and has things like tones and shading and isn't just a bland single color across the board.

And the REAL argument that nobody's making is that the official colors fucking suck compared to the sprites we've had in the past and for some reason people might like them better.

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So no matter what Gamefreak does people will bitch and moan.

-ke.

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Bro...

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YOU JUST POSTED SOMETHING EMBARASSING

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Hey guys what did I miss?

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Did you read who I was responding to? The guy who specifically said both pixels and 3D are trash?

Yes

>animations are the best thing that happened to the series
>a big step above the dynamic poses

yes, but people would bitch less if their shit looked good instead of le flying battles

>All those shitty 2010 Cartoon Network designed creatures and objects with fuckhuge heads and ovals for limbs will be in 3D
God help us all, Nintendo might actually learn to go back to Gen 1/2 art design

Typhlosion was always shit.

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Druddigon looks fucking awful no matter what form he's in.

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Maybe people wouldn't do that if they actually put effort into their games.

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SOMEBODY POST A HAXORUS COMPARISON. THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW OF THIS CRIME.

If even fans can make good sprites, then it's just inherently more soulful than 3D models.

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>Colosseum/Gale of Darkness models
Those were trash. Battle Revolution fixed quite of a few of them, though.

3D models can have soul. Gamefreak is just lazy.

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say that to his face not online and see what happens

Christ, Haxorus was gutted. Got the animations?

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I prefer the sprites because they take less effort to look decent and we all know gf is going to put in minimum effort

>the pokemon is so shitty looking in 2d that it looks goods in 3d
What point are you trying to make? Dumbass OP.

Jesus

Fuck me, it looks like they stuffed an intern into a Haxorus fursuit and 3d scanned the result
The proportions are so far off from even the original art that it's practically a marvel in human incompetence

>make new sprites for all pokemon every generation
>make mediocre 3D models once and copy and paste them into the future indefinitely
>new gimmick is literally just the same models resized

You are being a nostalgiafag.

The Stadium models are low poly and ugly as fuck for the vast majority of mons. The animations are creative, but that's about it. The Colosseum/PBR models aren't much better. The Gen 5 sprites are also generally improved from the gen 4 ones, even if the animations look abit iffuy.

I'd say

Gen 5 sprites > Gen 4 sprites > Gen 2 sprites > current models >>> Stadium/Colosseum models > Gen 3 sprites >>> gen 1 sprites

>"Dude lets make this pokemon known for running and gliding fly all the time because our shitty battle mode nobody cares about needs flying models"
>"Fix it later in a game without flying battles? Why would we do that?"

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>5th gen Haxorus
>badass bird-like dragon with developed arms, talons that could rip someone's head off, and axe face that looks like it was just sharpened
>nu Haxorus
>literally someone's fursuit costume without looking menacing to begin with. Arms are stubby, generic feet, tail looks super fat, and the axe looks blunt

How did a pokemon that looked so good in both the games and the anime turn out like this? This was one of the primary mascots of the previous generation too.

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>mid tier
>BW/BW2 sprites
What the fuck am I reading.

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Is there any truth to the claim that Pokemon are now designed the way they are now to make animating them easier in the anime?

NINTENDO, HIRE THIS MAN

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No

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he's hot

You're gonna lose subscriber!

>pokemon was a mistake
Fixed it for you

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You're forgetting
>Stop even copy/pasting the 3d models and data into newer generations entirely, making it impossible to even trade older pokemon into newer generations.
>This is the new business model going forward from now on

Archeops is literally the only good flying animation, try again.

Maybe if you're retarded, yes, for people who like the pokemon, looking at that embarrassing animation all the time is awful

But gamefreak 3D models do have soul.

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GAD

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>ke.

what is the point of this post?

what is the point of this post?

That’s exactly why they’re better. Their 2D and static nature allowed us to easily fill in the gaps with our imagination. But GF mistakenly thought they could still get away with that in 3D. Can the human NPCs don’t animate for shit because we are still expected to imagine.
At least give the Pokémon a more dynamic stance in battle. Not just stand there like they’re in line at the DMV

what is the point of these posts?

What is the point of this post?

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Looks like a distressed Kermit

As for the XY thing, it's because the game itself was complete shit. Constant interruptions from the 1 dimensional characters that followed you around, introduced the new EXP share, trainers overall having less pokemon and just being easier, where they started phasing out caves or otherwise complex routes. Route 1 doesnt even have grass and the first forest was a one to one copy of viridian forest. The story was also shit and felt incomplete with random elements being brought to your attention like that one big crystal Diancie-like thing in that one ocean-side town that had nothing to do with anything.
It did however bring some good things like the PSS, amie, some breeding changes that made it overall easier though I don't recall what those changes were, and horde battles made EV training the easiest in the series (as they were removed from future games for FPS issues probably). The friend safari was also a good idea that should have been improved upon, but I imagine if they tried to then they'd end up just shoving some cumbersome gimmick into it.

As of Gen 5 you mean. Tweenshit on pixeled graphics, fucking disgusting. 1 was a start, 2-4 was peak soul.

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Top Kek

>models have been recycled for 6+ years
>not even that well done or animated
>many Pokemon lose their charm and presence

it'd be better if the models didn't just stand doing their idle animations

That pokemon is just fucking ugly

But he said Metal Slug has good sprites.

What if game freak were to outsource the battle animations and models again?

What if GameFreak actually cared about making a good Pokemon game again?

>2D models
>2D
>models
Is this bait?

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BASED

how could he even possibly be projecting? what the fuck.

this reads like the Monty Python Argument skit

Probably not since it doesn't seem like pokemon fans know too much about the technical side of video games. I hardly do yet the things I've read on /vp/ make your brain melt.

>thanks for admitting video games are not and will never be art.
Modern art is trash too. It's not the subject, it's humans. All humans are soulless, just nuke it all already.

Sprites obviously. Come on, use your head its just a typo.

I actually had someone baiting by saying "2D models are just a 4 vertices plane" and I had to deal with that shit like he was legit with that crap.
So you know, just wanted to make sure.

They should just put in a 2d mode so boomers shut up about it.

That’s whats so ironic. Most if not all flying Pokémon animations look weird. Flapless hovering.
Then here’s this prehistoric bird that was never really meant to be depicted as a flyer, and his flying animation is better than every other flying type

>never really meant to be depicted as a flyer
it flaps the same way in gen5, albeit not as hard and amusing looking. If it's debut generation was somehow a wrong depiction then I don't know what the fuck is supposed to be right

What I meant was, not a good flyer. Especially in comparison to other flyers. He’s supposed to represent the first birds taking flight, which they do a good job of.
It’s just ironic that all other flying Pokémon have such terrible flying animations in comparison