CRT and Monitor thread

They are universally considered to be dogshit.

That looks like fucking shit, the waterfall is awful

Boy it sure is worth blurring the entire image for a few fleeting effects.

>rainbow banding
lmao get a better console, nigger.

True that.

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It's a natural byproduct of composite video and high resolution dithering.

Was this recorded from a model 2 genesis or late end model 1 because it looks even more dogshit than normal.

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100% emu

i know, i own the damn game on genesis

>Was this recorded from a model 2 genesis or late end model 1 because it looks even more dogshit than normal.
Actually it was a 32X.
That's real hardware son.

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>intentionally goes back to composite on Genesis
>a console with native RGB
I'll never understand you faggots. Genesis composite is blurry as fuck, some of the worst I've seen. I can tolerate NES composite, PC Engine composite is actually not that bad, but not the fucking Genesis. And no the waterfall effect in Sonic or the light blurring effect in Streets of Rage 2 does not in a million years make up for that vaseline smear of an image.

Those weight a ton, fuck that.

I thought the 32x was supposed to have good composite? Maybe it's the interlacing from whatever you used to record it?

there is your reason, faggot

YOUR FUCKING USING A 32X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i run that shit on a fucking CDX, i've never seen that shit.

>Streets of Rage
You mean Bare Knuckle you jelly doughnut dub fag

There are a shit ton of Genesis hardware revisions. Some are definitely higher quality than NES and PC Engine composite. Some others have shit like jailbars, so it's really a mixed bag.
>I thought the 32x was supposed to have good composite?
It does.

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Genesis composite is so fucking bad I had to read the file name to make sure it wasn't an RF capture

I-it's soulfull!!

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Now how about Japanese consoles? All my Mega Drive games are Japanese

Why does nobody use the 32X for comparisons? I know it's a big piece of shit but still it's composite output is good.

That fog looks terrible

Because I don't want to spend $100+ for a console with only one game (virtua racing). With a library that barren it's better to emulate tbqh

32X is too hard to find, I've never seen one even in Akihabara

>Bare Knuckle
Why the fuck do you care if I call it by the original jap title or the international title, you dense faggot?

Boy that Saturn RGB looks sexeh

>owns 25 consoles
>doesnt know about or has never used s-video

Ok poser

>is it that huge a difference from regular AV cables?
For 2D the difference is night and day, for 3D it'll be more like wiping your screen clean for the first time.
UI elements in particular will be much crisper.

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an........ENGLISH one?
i see those all the damn TIME, fucker

I've tested composite on at least three different models, two model 1 (different revisions) and a model 2. They all looked like shit. Might just be me who only have the shit revisions. Not that it really matters since I use RGB anyway.

Why wouldn't you call it the original name?
I've watched videos on YouTube, and I don't know if it's just the way they filmed it but it's hard to tell the difference. All my consoles that can use component I have set up, but lately I've been thinking about S video
Oh wow that looks great, okay I'm sold
I only own a Japanese Mega Drive, I don't bother with the Canadian versions the box art is ugly as sin

The vast majority of Americans used nothing but RF and composite throughout the entire analoge era.
S-Video existed but really wasn't common at all, and certainly never came bundled with a console by default.

And component? First time I ever seent a component cable was the bundled cable with Xbox 360, and by that time I was already using an LCD TV and had to switch to HDMI.

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this

unless you lived in fucking america, you know that this was the standard. i lived that entire era, all the consoles CAME with RF or RYW cables. shit, even dreamcast had a damn RF box because people were still poor in 1999.

I'm not American, but you're right I never saw an S video cable being sold in stores, just the regular AV cables.
It was only when I got older and became more interested in getting the best out of my retro consoles that I learnt about S video but from the videos I saw online it didn't seem that different from AV.

>have a CRT
>only has coaxial hookup, no s-video or RGB
>can only hook up my old consoles via an RF box making S-Video completely useless

Feels fucking bad. Is there any way to mod a CRT to have S-Video? I'd rather not buy a new CRT.

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>mod a CRT
Enjoy getting electrocuted

Only dumb niggers don't know how to discharge a CRT. Are you a dumb nigger?

Thanks to you cunts every CRT is 100 to 300 dollars now

It is but I doubt you have the chops for it. Also there are 50 billion different CRT models out there, you’re probably going to have to find the schematics yourself to mod it.

>buy
Poor people old folks still give away their old sets on craigslist all the time m8

Why the hell did you buy an ancient set with no proper inputs?

>every CRT
No. Only the PVM meme models. Everything else can be found for free.

>actually still have a saturn with virtua fighter and nights into dreams
fuck, how stupid is it that I want to drop money on a crt and rgb connectors?

I've modified and re-purposed tons of PCB's in the past, just never a CRT. Assuming I know which circuits to work with, how hard could it be?

I didn't, this is literally my old CRT from the late 90's/early 00's.

>Free
Where the fuck at?

Craigslist, the side of the road, the dump.

Why didn't you keep yours that you bought back in the 90's?

There is a capacitor inside of one that if charged can literally kill you

Shouldn't discharging the CRT via the suction cup be enough, though? Or does the capacitor stay charged even after discharging?

I was a kid in the 90s I was born in 1986

>"Hey bro, can you help me with moving?"
>show up at specified time
>faggot is sitting there playing vidya
>nothing has been packed up for hauling
Turns out it was the first time someone other than his parents was helping him move (as in doing the moving for him).

I found both of my Sony CRTs near a dump. Now I wish some one would take them

No idea this guy is doing something similar in this video so maybe he can show a way to discharge that Al I know is I would be afraid to even open one

youtu.be/DLz6pgvsZ_I

>8-Bit Guy

Absolutely based, I dunno how I've never seen this video. Thanks, friend. Definitely gonna look into this.

Well if I thought you lived any semblance of close to me I would take one but I'm sure you are out of state

PVM's are the most soulful.

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>friend's cheapo monitor dies
>too poor to afford a new one
>rigs up his ancient CRT TV to his PC
>has to use the magnifying glass tool to read anything
>his case fans also fail
>opens up the side of the case and rigs a table fan to blow inside
>mfw seeing his battlestation

>tfw CRTs give me massive ocular migraine attacks
>tfw can't play old games properly

is this some zoomer disease?

How the hell do you get a migraine from a TV

I mainly want a CRT to him up to my computer and run dosbox output through it

It's the constant rapid "blinking" that CRT screens do. It fucks with the eyes.

I scooped one of these out of my neighbor's trash, just needed to clean the dusty ass projectors inside

I live in AZ but I made a mistake. Its one Sony and the other is Sanyo. And that Sanyo one weighs at least 150lbs

No they don't, they're mostly hollow

Because it was the one my grandparents got back in the 70s. And all of the knobs had fallen off.

What are you talking about I play on my CRT daily and I don't understand what you're talking about

lmfao I got 5 trinitrons for free off craigslist and facebook

Can I bee in the cool boomers club, too?

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no.

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got this guy for 20canadian fun bux on Kijiji, does 1080i/720p, 1 HDMI, 3 component and a couple of composite inputs. Works great and it came with the original remote

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did you get this from someone near brampton/mississauga?

Won this on an auction for $10, I had no idea there were Wega's out there that weren't CRT's. I'm gonna use it to watch 4:3 shows so I don't gotta see black vertical lines. Gonna post the second pic to show how thin it is.

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Damn, 3 component? I've never seen that before, usually it's a couple AV and 1 component. Looks like a nice TV but clean up your room what a mess

Can't even find this specific model on bing or google so I don't even know what inputs it has.

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No closer to Toronto core
>but clean up your room what a mess
I have more shit than I actually need and I don't have space for it all, it's terrible please help me

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>The fags ITT afraid to open their CRTs
Nut up sunshine. I opened mine a couple of times to calibrate geometry which had to be done while the set was on, got shocked once and I lived to shitpost about it. Keep a hand behind your back and learn what you should and shouldn't be touching and you probably won't die even if you get a jolt unless you have a heart condition. For operations like capacitor replacement where you can turn off and discharge the set it's even safer.

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enjoy it. it's a great model. plug a ps2 through component, put in silent hill 3, turn the lights off; then immerse yourself in the deep blacks and atmosphere.

CRT rear projection screens do not travel well. You'll be spending hours in the service menu trying to fix the color alignment because they fall out of alignment whenever the stupid thing gets moved.

Big screen TVs were a pain in the ass, not to mention that they were frequent victims of burn-in. I do not miss them at all, especially because they were much more expensive for their time than an equivalent TV today. Anyone can afford a big screen TV now but back in the day it was a choice between a big TV or a family vacation.

Found out the model.
>1 component
>2 composite
>2 s-video
This sure is a weird TV, flat panel LCD in 4:3 aspect with no HDMI.

rear projection really excel with movies. i would never use one for games however.

The cables are like five bucks from China.

>that toshiba

BROTHER!?

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Those probably aren't real S video, if it includes the yellow cable for the AV then it's not a true S video.

This is my favouite CRT ever produced. I wish I could find another one since lightning destroyed the only HDMI port.

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Do you call Secret of Mana "Seiken Densetsu 2"?Do you call out faggots who say Samurai Shodown and insist they say Samurai Spirits? Do you autistically sperg out when somebody says Megaman and not Rockman?

Holy fug that's the exact same tv! Are we quantum entangled or something?
>2011+8
>not playing the gun version for best boy Link

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soul
soulless

I say whatever name is written on my game case

thanks user! I currently only have an Xbox OG running through component, still looking to get a cable for PS2.

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>tfw at the end of the crt era I had a really great sony trinitron
>didn't appreciate it in the slightest, just wanted the new hotness
>literally just fucking threw it away

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If you're in Toronto you can pick up cheap component cables for PS2 at A & C, they're easy to find compared to cables for other consoles. I don't know why Dreamcast cables are such a pain in the ass

No problem! Silent Hill 2 RD then. If you can find the energizer 3in1 (wii/ps2/ps3/360) component cable I cannot recommend that one enough,

you live in a forest, desu?

Also I just realized ours are slightly different with yours being the DVD variant and mine using a VHS player! Do you think Toshiba used the same base model for both?

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I know that feel, except I sold it for cheap.

Just get something like a PC CRT monitor and an OSSC. It would be cheaper than getting a PVM that can do 480p too.

I would have taken it

got that pvm for free. some warehouse was closing down.

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>turn on crt
>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I can still hear it.

>tfw paid way too much money for two 13" CRTs online that worked for the first week then one of them lost color and the other got a weird color blemish on the corner of the screen
I've given up on the CRT meme, even if one were offered to me for free in person I would probably decline cause I already got three TVs in my closet at this point and I'd start to lose my shit if that number turned to four.

I got one of the best consumer model Trinitrons off a guy for 40 bucks a few months ago but my dumbass missed a step on the way in and the geometry was fucked too hard for me to fix after that. It was a KV27s42

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>that keyboard

nice!

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Typing of the Dead my nigga.

>and the other got a weird color blemish on the corner of the screen
Why did you even buy CRTs if you don't know the first thing about them? That's just superficial magnetization and it can easily, instantly be rectified with like a $20 degaussing tool. It's common and one of the easiest things to fix. If the maintenance of a CRT outweighs the benefit for you I understand that but come on dude

I want a widescreen CRT, but i live in a shithole so everyone is just selling 4:3 CRT.

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SOUL*/SOULLESS

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>not playing vidya on an impossibly small 2" LCD screen with less pixels than a 2005 youtube video
I shaggy scooby doo

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I'm researching a little bit about DC component, and it seems like they were never a thing. I can't seem to find anything other than this which is still in development hdretrovision.com/development/ DC had native VGA support so it's easy to find those cables for it.
I'll keep an eye out for those, if not those I'll try to find something just as good for PS2 only.

Svideo is a night and day difference in picture quality compared to them shitty rca cables bro.

you can get a migraine from loud sounds m8

I knew about the degaussing tool I've just been hesitant about spending $20 for something I've never used before in my life that might be snake oil tier bullshit.

You do need high quality s video cables through there's a lot of shit ones out there that send out composite the only ones that really.work are the monster s video cables

I'm glad I got mine before the price gouging began.

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Wait nevermind, I plugged the tv back in because of this thread and now I remember. The TV has a problem where the right side is dimmed and the left side is normal brightness and I wasn't sure if a degausser would fix it so I never looked into it.

tell me about it. i can't believe the prices people pay for one. that looks nice though user. great game to.

That's s video through BAD cables only poor fags don't have the very best monster s video cables for snes and n64

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I'm not sure exactly what causes that issue in particular but I'm fairly sure a recap would fix it, which might be beyond your current skill level. Degaussers are not snake oil though, they're magic wands for CRTs

youtube.com/watch?v=4vaXOxyr31Y

Overrated. Any well made svideo cable will do. I bought a really good set from some dude that was self made. Great quality.

Beast not to respond to him he is being a shithead

I've just got a great Hyundai PC CRT. Is there any good solution to connecting and converting, say, 240p/480i (bonus for 480p) to a VGA monitor?

Don't entirely blame yourself, user. The LCDjews played pretty much all of us when that was the up and coming home display tech.

Yeah. Boomer here. They were what all the middle class people with excess income bought to show off to the neighbors. "Big screen TV"s is what we called them. This was during a time when a 42" (give or take) tube was the biggest tube you were going to find. So a 52-55" rear-projection TV was like the 100"+ flat panel TVs of today.

The picture was awwwwwwwwwful. You had to be directly in front of it or the corners fuzzed out. You know that "screen door effect" they talk about with low/mid-range VR units? That was pioneered by these fucking wastes of space. It was like take a normal CRT TV and putting a piece of window screen mesh over it. That's what it looked like.

Why did they catch on, you ask? Why did 4k take precedence of 60fps? Why is the raytracing meme dictating the advancement of Nvidia/AMD? Marketting + dumb shits = stupid trends. In 20 years, we'll be making fun of the raytracing meme and the GPU designers putting barely-noticable lighting improvements over massive jumps in graphic quality across the board.

How do you guys take pictures of these things without the screen turning to shit anyway? Is it a trick with lighting or dimming brightness of the screen? My closet station btw where I keep my frozen dinners, car fluids & nostalgia for radiactive rays with woodgrain.

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why not front projection?

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Will CRTs ever make a real comeback? Is it possible to make something even better? Modern screens just don't feel visceral enough. What if there was a screen that could automatically change the aspect ratio and increase or decrease the number of pixels on screen depending on the output but still retain the over a screen size for a perfect 1:1 experience every single time? All without any input lag?

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Are the $40 coils the only real deal or do the $15 chinkshit wands do the same thing? I don't want to get my hand shocked, outlets popped and or house burned just to save $25.

my uncle used to have one of these bad boys in the mid 90's. I thought it was the most unique thing my little eyes ever witnessed. I'm only going to assume that the picture quality is very low and the whole TV in general is lacking?

My first HDTV was like this. Fucking retarded. Xbox 360 only outputs in widescreen above 480p, so it was either use standard def, or have the image crunched.

I love me some crispy CRTs

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Supreme taste in CRT

>widescreen "HD" CRT
into the trash

Flat screen crts are a thing but you'll never see one outside of some very expensive prototypes.

So since you're an expert, does that 4gb folder of dolphin porn actually exist?

when I was little we would sit in the front like it was seating. yea the picture was horrible.

They can't be that rare, I had one when I was growing up, unless it was some weird trick that was a standard CRT that just looked flat.

Plok is some good shit.

I... I hope not

Flat screen CRTs also suffer from the same problem other flat screen displays have, where they only look good at a single native resolution. For all intents and purposes LED-based displays are objectively superior to "flat" CRT-based displays.

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Starting in the early 2000s, the industry was experimenting with Field Emission Displays (FEDs) and Surface Conduction Electron Emitter Displays (SEDs). I won't get into the nitty gritty details but they were essentially the true successors to CRT display technology, offering the response time and color depth advantages of CRT but with LCD tier slimmed down formfactors and even lesser power draw than same-sized LCD displays.

These were getting close to being ready to go for public consumption but LCD displays won over for being much cheaper to manufacture while being marked up to unbelievable margins in those early days. I'll be fair, the LCD tech HAS gotten better for TVs besides input lag, but Jesus Christ those early LCD sets were often such chintzy garbage.

We're not talking about flat tubes, apparently there were prototype flat-screen TVs where each subpixel was illuminated by a tiny electron tube. At the time the only advantage it had over the already-established LCD display was contrast ratio in a dark room. Don't believe the lies, because they aren't some magical flatscreen with CRT-like properties.
>true successors to CRT
Not with all the disadvantages of LCD and LED, namely fixed pixel arrangement, sample-and-hold, and shitty scaling.

You forgot to mention the patent squatters that was the final nail in the coffin for anyone wanting to do anything related to CRT technology.

>Valis on Sega Genesis
I love you, user

EDTV or HDTV? I have an EDTV LCD and it's basically perfect for PS2/XBOX/GCN/WII 480p and nothing else

Please tell me more about this EDTV. I've heard it's the best for Wii, but I've never really seen one or where to get one. Like, I don't think EDTV ever even became a thing that anyone who bought those TVs could tell you it was one.

EDTV is just 480p as opposed to SDTV which is 480i

I mean, that's what a projector is for.

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...

I think it's just an HDTV that was manufactured in an awkward period in time where HDMI wasn't yet standardized and people were still transitioning from CRT to LCD but were too stubborn to adapt to widescreen cause their dvds and cable TV were still in 4:3.

Oops

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>grew up in france in the 80s
>every console and computer came with a peritel output which made the picture as crisp as possible
>absolutely no color artifacts
>better than S-video

feels good man

I would post pictures but I haven't made cables for the genesis yet

I want one of these PVMemes but I already have a nice 21" FD Trinitron VGA monitor to play my emulators and touhou on.

Where can I get those kinds of TV's? Are they expensive? Do they make them with built-in VHS players?

If you just want any Sony TV try your local thrift store or erecycler. If you want a production monitor like the ones in that picture be prepared to drop at least $300 on ebay auctions.

It's just an early/mid 00s EDTV LCD. Mine's a Symphonic brand. Mine doesn't have the EDTV label on it directly but a quick model check online confirmed it was. Technically a 16:9 480p TV is best as some Wii games will letterbox on 4:3 TVs. One of the big fat WEGAs or a Panasonic Tau would do nicely. I used to have a Tau myself.

I've seen a lot of them recently in Goodwills although I got mine out of a Savers. They take them because they're LCD flatpanels but unsurprisingly no one wants them. They all run for about 30 bucks.

Honestly, yeah. The two I got, I managed to find like 3 years apart. But, if you're diligent and have a reasonable amount of connections, between checking hospitals and office buildings, liquidations and old broadcast studios, even facebook groups and Kijiji, you'd be able to find one at a comfortable price. Just don't go into it blind.

You can't anymore, grognards swooced in and hunted them all down ten, fifteen years ago.
Originally they were commercial or hospital equipment and could be found cheap or free whenever a broadcast studio or hospital upgraded to digital, but now you'll have to get scalped by a grognard on Ebay for $600+ and another $200 in shipping.

What's the model? I'd somehow doubt it's a true HDTV but the LCD may be some bullshit PC LCD spec like 1024x768

KLV-21SG2
>may be some bullshit PC LCD spec like 1024x768
According to the user manual that's exactly what it is lol. I say HDTV cause it apparently can display 720p through component so it's technically HD but not really by any modern standards.

>moving out of my parents' place
why would anyone ever do such a thing? I'm still at home at 24 and I intend to remain there forever.

Literally a repurposed PC monitor unlike the 1366x768 "HD" TVs you find at grocery stores for $60.

peritel is the 3 cables right? or is that the long plug with like 20 pins?

One day your parents will die and you'll have to support yourself on your ownunless they're filthy rich and inherit their savings you dumb NEET

I do have a job, I just live at home because it's comfier and less financially stressful than renting out a bugman box for no reason

Yeah that's goofy as shit. Nothing it can output will ever be at true 1:1 pixel ratio. At least a VGA input would have made some sense.

rank the pre-HD video cables

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VGA = RGBHV > Component > S-Video >> Composite > RF >>> Short-range VHF broadcast

60hz crts are migraine fuel. 75hz and up completely alleviates that, at least it did for me.

>implying CRT TVs run at anything other than line frequency
Be glad you didn't grow up in 50Hz territory, that shit is a literal strobe light.

I never had a problem with tv's. Monitors always gave me headaches though. No idea why.

Is this the same model and good price for it? Your TV looks good im about to pull the trigger

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73 inch DLP masterrace reporting in

So, uh... Anybody else use composite entirely on purpose because it's comfy and strokes the nostalgia boner? Everything else just looks off to me plz No bully

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i hooked up my crt for the first time in a while a few months back, first few times i got a pretty bad headache after a while but now i barely notice it

if you didn't have that funko pop shit it would be 10/10

I only do it with early 3d games (n64)
2d games just look better on s video or RGB tho

nigga are you retarded.

What's the approximate screen size 480P/480i begins to look stretched? I'm considering a CRT for cheaper high refresh rates/input lag/color contrast(especially true blacks) in modern games. Are there also widely available 768P or higher screens? Grew up with CRTs but never really paid attention to this stuff.

Even as a young kid I had to limit the amount of time I played console games because the 60hz strobe combined with the whine used to give me headaches.
My computer games didn't give me that problem but I had to play them at like 640x480 to turn the vsync to 90hz.

I should invest a CRT monitor. For nostalgia

Similar.
The ones I have pictured are
1271q (Left) and 14m2u(right)

That's a bit high, but if your area is scarce it might be worth. Again, look into how to actually get quality picture on the screen. There's a bit of work involved but it can be fun if you like soldering diy, or more expensive if you don't. You can use composite with adapters, but no RF. The goal with these usually is to get an rgb signal from the console but it depends on what you like.

The first two numbers in the model, are typically the size, by the way.

Poor floor...

Yeah, I used RF Converters on the Atari, NES, SNES and Playstation. Hell, I think I might have used them for the PS2 at first as well.

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they're not that rare

I had the exact same one seen in AVGN videos, I think Sanyo brand

bedroom size screen