2020

They've never been TWO generations behind before. They could get away with the Wii and Wii U/Switch, but maybe not this time.

But their games suck and are braindead children tier, garbage like Let's Go Pikachu sells millions and garbage like Pokemon Shidd and Shart will sell millions more

>4k60fps native

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>100% of the gpu upgrade between generations goes to pushing 4k graphics

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I can respect Nintendo's gameplay forward philosophy, but I really wish they'd quit it with the gimmicks.

I really hope this is bait.

>buying a console for 2 games

I'd much rather be a "Virgin" than you

The switch has the least gimmicks of any system since gamecube.

Its a handheld with HDMI output. Thats it. it doesnt even have a mic or camera or stylus.

>PS5
>movies

>Switch
>Games

>Spending thousands of dollars to browse Yea Forums

I shudder to think

>gyro controls
>wagglan
>""""""""HD"""""""" Rumble
>touchscreen controls
>1,2 Switch was a demonstration of the gimmick riddled nightmare that Switch games could be

sony
>selling console with a lose
>making money on games

nintendo
>selling console with a profit
>making money on both consoles and games

>projecting

nice to see you have nothing to reply with

The handheld is the gimmick. Nintendo makes a handheld already. Just give me a traditional, powerful system to optimize the exclusives I love

>2020
>Scarlett and PS5
>$700+

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You honestly think Let's Go Pikachu is good?

>people say this literally every single time

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nintendo
>overcharging for mobile-tier games
>overcharging for ports
>overcharging for weak tablet
>overcharging for accessories
>taking advantage of blind consumer loyalty

and that's how they stay afloat, see? you answered your own question! good for you!!!

Sad. I really hope things improve for you

>gyro controls and wagglan listed as two seperate things
Xbox controls also have gyro. Whats the problem with gyro?

>Haptic Rumble
>a gimmick
Cringe

>touchscreen controls are a gimmick and not a decade old industry standard
>a game nobody fucking cares about or plays

kek

And they were right about the Wii U.

Nintendo didn't make those 2 games
You should direct that hate towards Game Freak

>its all about games
yeah, and switch isnt getting the 3rd party games that the other systems are

Video games are not a legitimate hobby.

Just like the other systems aren't getting Astral Chain, Bayonetta 3 and No More Heroes 3

You brainlets don't understand that nintendo can't go full retard with this console like sony did. their business model is different. it depends on massive library of games and backward compatibilty. to make money on something like ps4 you need tons of exclusivity. backward compatibility actually hurts your income because you are not buying new expensive games.

>3 literal who games vs. 99% of games being deload

>gyro controls
>wagglan
This is standard shit now, you stupid faggot. Phones use it. The DS4 uses it. Steam's controller uses it.

>HD Rumble
Literally just better rumble. Did you call rumble a stupid gimmick when it was new too? Oh, look, now its standard on everything too.

>Touchscreen controls
AGAIN, you insipid faggot, this is not a gimmick. Fucking everything has a touchscreen, its a standard.

None of those things are gimmicks, they are standard features. Things stop being gimmicks when they become widely adopted and are no longer a "WOW" selling point, because they've become widely adopted and everyone just expects it.

The Wii U was just an unappealing console. No one cared about the tablet controller, Nintendo failed to communicate what it was to too many customers and it didn't have any killer apps at launch. Hardware power was irrelevant, it didn't have games people cared about early on and by the time it did get them it was already dead in the water.

Ive never understood this criticism.

To me Nintendo has always been a partner system. If you like videogames you should have a main system, be it either PC or Xbox/PS4 and team it with a Nintendo system.

This way you get every game. So to complain you cant get the worst version of cod or assassins creed is so fucking weird. Oh, X isnt coming to Switch? Well ill play it on my PC then.

The thought that someone would only have a SINGLE videogame system in any generation is fucking baffling to me. Only the most pathetic hardcore fanboys would refuse to own more than one preferred system.

Having a screen on your controller is the gimmick you idiot. God it's so obvious your mom fucks niggers

>Native 4k
>60FPS
>ray tracing

Ha, no.

The switch isnt the controller though. The joycons are the controller. The swithch is a tablet. Youre literally complaining a tablet has a screen. This is like complaining a phone has a screen.

Do you think that matters if something makes good sales.
Who the fuck cares, It's a company. They need to make profit regardless of 'how you feel about it'.

And i actually like Let's go. It's casual fun. It's a nice break from complicated shit like dark souls or fighting games.

This is correct, by Nintendo fans are on their knees sucking off PC and pretending that it isn't a prohibitive annoyance. This "debate" is entirely generated by Nintendo fans

>360-tier games
LOL

And you Switch won't be getting:
>DMC5
>KH3
>RDR2
>FF7 Remake
>Cyberpunk 2077
>Avengers
>Sekiro
>Nioh 2
>RE2
>Ace Combat 7
>Monster Hunter World
>NieR
>Far Cry 5
Just to name a few. And you can expect even less in the upcoming gen.

>>Native 4k
FPS
>>ray tracing
>Ha, no.

Ha, yes.

>This "debate" is entirely generated by Nintendo fans
>in a thread shitting on nintendo

Really makes you think huh

>these games sell millions! this is why Nintendo can't compete with Sony!

>have a 1080 PC
>still not interested in a single one of those games

Oof

Don't worry, hes about to post about how all of those games are bad and only games on his kids toy are good

I don't understand how the retarded niggers and NEETS on this board think any of this shit will happen unless the console takes a $600-800 loss.

>getting excited over "4k" with raytracing at cinematic frame rates with motion blur added to hide the mess
I am so glad I switched to PC gaming thanks to TF2 and just stuck with it cause I couldn't afford an XBox One at the time.

They're gimmicks because they suck ass and hinder gameplay.

Detachable controllers is a gimmick, sure.

Its also completely benign and unlike motion controls or a Dpad, things that were also labelled gimmicks when they were first introduced, it doesn't change how you play at all. Its just a controller you can detach from the console.

What's the point in playing in 4k, 60+fps with realistic graphics if almost every game is bland as fuck and is for brain dead people aka "press X to win"? I'm not defending Nintendo since they have the new rushed pile of broken cowshit pokemon and 99% of their games are just ports after ports with new retarded gimmicks.

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No nintendo fan has EVER had sex. This is a FACT

They weren't always. If you were born before 2000 you'd know they had solid consoles that were groundbreaking back in the day. And they had major 3rd party support. But slowly they made too many mistakes to appeal to major thirdparties. First they refused to upgrade to popular high storage media. Then they sort of did that, but refused to update their controllers to have all the necessary buttons and controls, while still using proprietary media. Then, they started down their current trend of largely underpowered hardware. They make solid profit due to the lower costs, but I could understand that it was hard to want to make games for them in retrospect. Thanks to the poratbility angle on the Switch, they managed to get more 3rd parties than usual, but next gen (when that gimmick either gets old or becomes standard everywhere) it'll be like the Wii U again. Best of wishes to Nintendo I suppose.

But they don't

Turn rumble off if you don't like it, been an option for over two decades

Don't use motion controls if you don't want to, BOTW and Splatoon don't force you to use gyro controls, even though its objectively better than aiming with a stick

A touchscreen is just a fucking touchscreen, you mouth-breathing muppet.

I hope they make they make the "Nintendo Power" and make it strong enough so the console doesnt miss 80% of games. Make it backwards compatible with switch via a cart slot

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Doesn't change the fact that most of the Swirch library is exclusive, whether first, second (Xenoblade, actually Pokémon, technically Bayo3) or third.
Any costumer who wants to play those titles will have to buy a Nintendo system to do so with. Nintendo games have a strong history in the market, dedicated install base and reputation for gameplay first, agendas never, so they will never be hurting for interested parties.

>b-b-but snoy's better! look at MY exclusives!
That has nothing to do with the OP's question: how does Nintendo compete? This is the answer.

Nintendo makes games that people want to buy. That is all there is to it.

My exact thoughts, like what point were you trying to make?

>Then, they started down their current trend of largely underpowered hardware
Because selling hardware at a loss loses money, dipshit. Sony lost $4 billion on the PS3. MS has sold every Xbox console at a loss.

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>switch costs hundreds less than xbone and ps4
>overcharging

Dude. 3rd party jumped ship at N64. It never recovered. And since gamecube nintendo focused solely on cheaper less powerful hardware.

I think 20+ years is pretty precedent setting.

Just you wait for the switch DX specs nigger

>How will Nintendo's handheld compete with the competition's home consoles???

Will it have paid online?
If it does the ps5 will be as worthless as the Switch.

when I see these threads I immediately know that they are made by either children or people who never experienced new console and technology advancement

>TWEWY port forces wagglan or touchscreen
>Mario Odyssey makes certain moves exclusive to wagglan controls
>Certain BOTW dungeons utilize Gyro
>Arms is a modern Wii game built with wagglan in mind and flopped

Nobody wants gimmick controls, and Nintendo is the only one stupid enough to STILL force it in their games in 2019. Just because it's been widely used at one point, doesn't mean people STILL want it in their games.

>since gamecube nintendo focused solely on cheaper less powerful hardware.
Don't you mean since the Wii?
Gamecube was only marginally less powerful than the original Xbox, but considerably more powerful than the PS2.

>And since gamecube nintendo focused solely on cheaper less powerful hardware.

Because pushing high-end hardware loses money. N64 and GC sold well below expectations despite being powerful consoles, there was no point in trying to directly compete in a shrinking market with hardware that sells at a loss. They were better off not trying to push expensive hardware, they've literally never been successful doing it.

>implyig Switch isn't overpriced given its hardware capabilities

Next gen is not going to be as big of a jump as you think it will be.

>How does Nintendo plan to respond to evolving technology, industry, and consumer expectations?
By being the only company on the market with a viable handheld platform this gen and ignoring the home console race entirely. I know their marketing made the Switch seem like a home console, but it obviously isn't and you need to stop acting like it is.

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4k 60FPS is highly unlikely, even for next gen consoles. Adding to that, raytracing? No. These consoles are going to barely be able to maintain 1080p 60FPS in that case, if even that. Not to mention, 4k even without raytracing is demanding on hardware to the point that I have absolutely no faith it will be done properly or with anything other than a stuttering 30FPS. They can't even get 4k right on the Xbox One X and it came out years after the original hardware and was supposedly designed for it.

They didn't really get away with the Wii U. They just had enough money in their coffers to cover their fuck up.

>Nobody wants gimmick controls
The market says otherwise, faggot

You seem to be the only one bitching, everyone else has accepted the fact that motion controls are a standard now

Did you reject the introduction of analog sticks and say they were just a stupid gimmick, and that everyone ACKSHUALLY prefers Dpads for games designed to use analog sticks?

>Anything not sold at a sizable loss is overpriced

We've already seen technology plateau really hard. There's not much where PS5 can go on the technical front, which is why you see them hammer so much in the marketing front with all the socjus pandering.

>PS5 will be less powerful than XboneX
I could see it happening, XboneX sells/sold at a loss, I don't see how Sony or MS could produce anything much more powerful for less than $500 and have it not sell at a loss

This is pretty much why I think Nintendo can still compete. All they need is a "Switch Pro" and they're good.

>ps5/Xbox
>games now 120gb
>still uncompressed music and textures
>still the same loading times because cheap SSD and strangled SATA port
>overheats
>processor still underclocked
>games with more than 10 enemies super laggy because AI a single threaded endeavor
>giant empty maps
>games have even less content because wasting money on landscape designers
>uncanny valley trash since everyone just does facescans now
>$700 console
>they just make a better one 3 years from now
>operating system still a laggy buggy mess
>online service even slower due to increased loads
Sure can’t wait

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When will dumbasses learn that Microsoft and Sony are two of the biggest tech companies in the world and sink millions of dollars into R&D and sell their high-tech consoles at a loss because they have bigger, more significant sources on income.
Nintendo doesn't have that luxury, so they focus more on their software. That is why people buy Nintendo consoles for video games.

If they still sell millions then why does nintendo need to change lmao

This guy has it right -- Switch absolutely was and still is overpriced for what's in the box. And the OG PS4 and Xbone are actually still cheaper new than the Switch. Used? It's hilariously overpriced. Compared to a Switch in general you can go $50 more and get a used PS4 Pro and possibly an Xbox One X if you're looking hard enough.

And those overpriced "accessories" that should be standard like the Pro Controller are ridiculously overpriced. It's now common to find DS4 (newer model) for $40. It's still $70 for a Switch Pro Controller in most places. Lowest is the bog standard $60. I mean, fuck... You've got to be pretty ignorant to think the Switch is a "good deal".

XboneX already does it so I don't see why more powerful consoles wouldn't.

Get mad.

>All they need is a "Switch Pro" and they're good
No

This splinters the user base and hurts developers. Developers now have to either choose to only develop for the lower-end model, making the better hardware pointless, only develop for the newer model and its much, much smaller user base, or develop two builds of the game for each model, which costs more time and money.

>OG PS4 and Xbone are actually cheaper new than the Switch
That's hard to believe considering that neither Microsoft nor Sony produces the base vanilla units new anymore.

>this horrifying app de-mustaches men in just one click

>DRAM-less SSD because being able to print SSD on the marketing material is all that matters
>CPU will be low end notebook tier because the console can't handle the thermals and cinematic experiences don't need processing power any way
It's going to be amazing.

Reminder that the Switch being able to run Doom is pretty impressive being that the game on PS4 causes the system to fucking overheat.

those games arent developed by nintendo idiot.
They are the single most influential developer ever and this continues to hold in the modern era.

>still uncompressed music and textures
>still the same loading times because cheap SSD and strangled SATA port
This is the worst thing about modern consoles. Overpriced storage and under-designed products that are overbloated because a lack of innovation... or even already existing good compression techniques. It's fucking pathetic.

Even on PC storage is ridiculously overpriced, though. The fact that 4TB is more than $50 - $60 on fucking HDD (external or internal) is ridiculous. And SDD is still being overpriced despite the fact it's now almost just as cheap to produce with modern techniques. Charlatans, all of them.

>evolving technology
>features that PCs have been enjoying for years

lmaoing at you right now. When will "muh grafix" fags learn? The most successful and innovative games currently run on your aunt's phone for Christ's sake. I hoped you liked The Order because that's what you're gonna be getting for "Next Gen" for the first few years, after that, your consoles' "features" will be obsolete again.

>mobile processor
>sub 30fps
>720p - 900p
>long load times
>360/PS3 tier games

Golly, this sounds an awful lot like every console, not just Nintendo. I mean I can't even remember the last game that ran at a solid 60 FPS.

why would you need good graphics for nintendo games? all nintendo games have children graphics

No it doesn't. It, at best, runs stuff at 2500x1500 or some other oddball number and the scales it by checkerboarding, all at 30FPS.
Consoles haven't been able to do 1080p 60fps high and we're already aiming for 8K with raytracing.

see
Really just sounds like you expect them to always sell hardware at a loss.

>And the OG PS4 and Xbone are actually still cheaper new than the Switch
MSRP for base PS4 and Switch is $299, MSRP for the digital-only Xbone is $249. You're then comparing secondary market prices for consoles released in 2013 to the Switch at MSRP, they cost less to produce than the Switch, so they cost less to buy.

Nintendo makes a small profit on each Switch sold, again, sounds like you expect them to just sell at a loss.

Oh god the noise. I literally and uinironically stopped playing my PS4 becuase of how loud it is.

If the next consoles are as loud i wont get them. I refuse to be forced to wear headphones when playing games.

>More microtransactions
>In general, expansion of "live services" instead of gameplay
>Still no advancement in local play (splitscreen to multiple displays or LAN) or even use of it
>More online bullshit despite worse internet situation because of lobbyists.

I mean... even if the consoles were actually good, who cares when all major "advancement" is in monetization and not games themselves.

Doom Eternal is coming the same day. Wolf youngblood too. It's also getting the witcher3. It is also getting an expanded port of dragon quest 11.
the Switch has proven to developers that it is a capable console and they will port their new games over to it. Look at Mortal Kombat 11 it came to switch

If a game runs 4K 60 it sure as FUCK wont have ray tracing or HDR. So youll have to pick and choose what settings you want.

Want ray tracing? Then 1080p30 MAX

One of my favorites these days is when a game feels the need to park gigabytes of uncompressed audio for random languages on your PC without the chance to have an english only installation.

the new dev kits are already out with 2gb more of ram so they can develop as usual and the game will work across both systems. The Pro switch will literally just be as powerful as a current switch at max overclock

>Still no advancement in local play (splitscreen to multiple displays or LAN) or even use of it
Of course not, its TOOOOOO HAAAAAAARD :((( to get that to work today

They can't sell you as many DLC packs or lootcrates, people playing locally/offline obviously aren't buying anything.

Great defense.

That doesn't mean all existing new consoles ceased to exist. The slim hardware for both consoles is still the old hardware, and you absolutely can find it just fine. Simple google search.

The switch being reasonably priced at $200 would not be selling at a loss. And even if it was, you act as though they aren't gouging for accessories and the games aren't more expensive too, as they obviously are. They've made their money and then some. They aren't going bankrupt or anything near it. Besides, why would you, as a consumer, even care about Nintendo's bottom line? You should care about the best deal, which is what this argument was all about.

>implying I don't use my expensive pc exclusively for vidya and a cheap laptop for the internet

Oh, I know the reasons that all stopped (despite actually being easier because no maintenance or servers needed). I'm just saying there is still no good justification for it. You know, man.

You are retarded. Dev kits usually have more RAM so they can run diagnostic tests. Every devkit in the world has had more RAM than the base console.

too bad Sony is a giant piece of shit when it comes to making sure their consoles work. Mine freezes and crashes on the daily

>These consoles are going to barely be able to maintain 1080p 60FPS in that case
Are you kidding, right? You need to buy a GPU that is probably going to cost 2x more than the PS5 to run Quake 2 at 60fps under these conditions. Of course the PS5 / Xbox will not run anything at 60fps using raytracing.

>PS5
>native 4K/60FPS

only on PS2 ports lmao

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If it results in games being exclusive to one model or games being gimped and running below what is acceptable on the original model they can fuck right off with it, I'm not buying a console every 2-3 years

sub-nigger class human being
graphics arent all that matter.
KH3 fucking sucks
RDR2 mediocre
FF7 Remake we dont know
Avengers looks like ass shit
Far Cry 5 is meh

Its going to get removed altogether when this service model crap takes over.

Are you implying what PS5 and scarlett are doing is impressive? Because it's not. And you are going to overpay for it.

>Switch has a 1800mhz CPU downclocked to 1000mhz
>Has a 800mhz GPU downclocked to 400mhz
>Switch is capable and can actually run its own games much better than the base clock speeds but devs are limited by nintendos restrictions

>Nintendo will unironically sell a $300 revision that will just have the exact same specs the switch ALREADY HAS and can hit
>This revision will also probably be downclocked itself to boot

WHY

>Besides, why would you, as a consumer, even care about Nintendo's bottom line?
Isn't that what this thread is about?

Itll simply be what weve already been seeing with most games. Unlocked fps and variable resolution.

So say a base model will target and hit 30fps and will mostly average res at say 720p the revision model will run at 45fps and maintain 900p average

SEETHING n*ntendrone
reminder that THIS is how The Witcher 3 is looking on Sw*tch (without the inevitable downgrade)
THIS is what you will be paying FULL price for, thinking your favority company can't do wrong and your toy is the best

and of course I forgot to put the pic

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>The switch being reasonably priced at $200 would not be selling at a loss
See, you're fucking retarded and expect them to sell at a loss because you have no idea how much it actually costs to make the Switch, nor did you bother to try to find out.

>venturebeat.com/2017/04/05/teardown-reveals-nintendo-switch-costs-257-to-build/
>$257 to build total
>Doesn't take retailer cut into account

$200 would have meant the console sold at a sizable loss, you insipid moron.

However, they're probably nearing the point at which they could drop the price $50 and maintain a small profit margin. They'll probably do a slim model too for that or less that further reduces manufacturing/building costs. I expect one or both of these by the end of the year, $250 Switch bundle with Mario Kart or Smash would fly off shelves over the holidays.

>By contrast, the Xbox One cost Microsoft about $347 to build, while the PS4 cost about $381 to build at launch in 2013.
BUT HURR-DURR SWITCH OVERPRICED :^))))

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I can play it on a fucking plane ride. Its the price to pay for portability

>a game known for its graphics with bad gameplay
>YEAH SURE IT LOOKS BAD BUT HEY AT LEAST IT'S PORTABLE
keep seething, your toy is not even as powerful as new smartphones

The games industry seems to be stcuck in a cycle of Nintendo releasing its console first. Then followed by PS and Xbox. Nintendo will most likely shoot themselves in the foot trying to outdo the switch or just make Switch 2

You sure are angry and wrong.

>$299.99 item isn't as powerful as $800 item
MIND = BLOWN

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They'll support the Switch for at least another five years, maybe they'll do another home console after that who knows

Because Nintendo does not want to be ashamed of players complaining that the battery ran out after 30 minutes playing DOOM.
And they keep the same restrictions on the dock mode to prevent companies from making games that are not viable in handheld mode.

>your toy is not even as powerful as new smartphones
>smartphones is $1k
>switch is $300
imagine being mad that a $300 jap tab is still the preferred choice thank a $1k meme phone

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You got bfto by him on like 10 separate points and your only reply was "u mad"

I'm a poor, I love games but I like books more, I have to choose one console a generation. Otherwise i wouldn't be able to fund my reading. Library doesn't carry much old scifi and fantasy stuff so i have to buy it.

What comic is this
I saw this and similar shit posted so many times

you can find smartphones at $500 that are more powerful than the Switch and have more exclusives, keep seething

Only games in that list i might be interested in playing are KH3 and RDR2

>more expensive item is more powerful
Yes I believe you already said this

but thats no longer true now
recentl nintendo have been adding "boost mode" to their newest dev kits
Boost Mode is literally just removing the CPU and GPU limit that Nintendo placed on the Switch Hardware
games that uses it are Mortal Kombat 11 and Breath of the Wild

it actually does go up in docked mode. THe ram and GPU go up but for some absurd reason the cpu doesnt. The CPU that with just a 1ghz to 1.2ghz can see quite significant fps boosts. I dont understand why they dont boost cpu in docked.

Uh jannies? Care to delete this anti nintendo discussion asap?

>468308620
Who is he quoting?

>cant afford $600 across 5+ years

Come on dude.

Buy a Kindle in a sale (when it drops for half the price) and start pirating all your books. I did it and I did not regret it.
But you have to be careful because if you break the Kindle you will lose all the savings you made with books.

>more exclusives
>OH BOY I SURE DO LOVE MY MOBILE EXCLUSIVE RUNNER!
Absolutely pathetic KEK

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Hey pal, take your well written logically formed ideas elsewhere, this is a shitslinging bait thread!!!

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MK11 uses it but the game is a bad port and runs like shit even at the higher clockspeeds.

As for Mario and Zelda they ONLY use it during loading screens to boost load times.

>seething tendie hater getting btfo so hard in his own thread he reports it

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>Anti Nintendo discussion
Oh so it’s fine to make an anti PS4 thread but not Nintendo? Just get over it

>that image
YOU FOOL, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!

Meanwhile SNOY will never ever get:
> Bayonetta 3
> Metroid Prime 4
> No More Heroes III
> Breath of the Wild 2
> Shin Megami Tensei V
> Daemon X Machina
> Astral Chain
> Animal Crossing
> Octopath Traveler
> Xenoblade 2
Just to name a few.

Nothing will change. Playstation never had any games worth playing.

That was my first post in the thread dumb idiot

>You, in 1999/2000
>"Besides, why would you, as a consumer, even care about Sega's bottom line?"
:^)

based

NO NO NOOOO
HES COMING

I wouldnt say the Switch version is a bad port considering that the game does run well for the most part of the game, excluding the Crypt and stage that does lag
Also the Switch version of MK11 did sell very well on Switch. Best selling Switch game for almost 2 months in Europe i believe

500 for the console at launch plus 60 dollars every two months for game plus an online subscription is a *lot* more than 600 dollars over 5 years.

Forgive me for expecting any sort of effort from you in a discussion. I did not realise you only come to Yea Forums to shitpost

BFTO IN ONE POST

I come to Yea Forums to stay in touch with gaming scene and culture and what's new as a early middle aged man who can't afford to actually buy and try all the latest stuff. (and to shitpost)

But the boost only works during loadings or things like that. For Nintendo it's okay if the handheld mode takes a little longer to load the levels. But there is a problem if in handheld mode the game gets unplayable.

Because normally in docked mode you run the game at higher resolutions.
But it is not in the interest of Nintendo that producers start making games that need so much power that the battery runs out in less than 1 hour in handheld mode.

if hes poor why is he buying systems at launch? Why is he buying them new?

Buy them preowned. NOBODY needs to buy a new console at launch. They have no games for at least 2 years. Fuck dude, the PS4 literally wasnt worth owning until 4 years after it came out.

My point was its weird that the 1.8ghz CPU is locked to 1.0ghz in both handheld AND docked. Thats weird.

I just got a 4k monitor and I cant even get 60fps on a 1070. So good luck with that on a console.

Even if you wait a while and get it for like 300 60 dollars every few months and like 20 bucks a month online is affordable for me on top of the 40-50 bucks every few months i pay for switch games and such. If i make any more money i lose my insurance and would have to pay like 300 a month out of pocket to buy private insurance with huge deductibles.

Except they weren't. The Wii U sold like shit, sure, but since consoles always sell at a loss, the thing that matters is software sales, and those were pretty damn good. The Wii U had an amazing attach rate. No doubt that it was still decently profitable.

To be fair MK11 had virtually nothing competing with it, The re-re-re-re-rerelease of Dragon's Dogma launched the same day, that's about it

25 percent tax.

Bruh, it almost bankrupted the company.

Wii U is the only console Nintendo has sold at a loss and the years surrounding its launch saw Nintendo lose money for the first time ever.

>Bruh, it almost bankrupted the company.
No it didn't you fucking retard

Again.
>poor
>paying for games

You need to figure shit out my man. The PS4/PC and Switch are easily hackable and piratable.

I literally just pirated Bloodstained, Crash Kart, Mario Maker 2, My Friend Pedro, Devil May Cry and Terraria since this thread started.

>Wii U is the only console Nintendo has sold at a loss
Incorrect

>Bruh, it almost bankrupted the company.
A few hundred million in losses did not almost bankrupt them, you're fucking retarded.

Wii U sold at a loss and caused Nintendo to lose money for the first time since they started making video games but it didn't almost bankrupt them, not even within the realm of possibility.

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What else was sold at a loss then, I notice you provided no examples

what does 2018 look like, i wanna see updated graph

>switch
>long loads

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Both Sony and Nintendo made lots of money

>sold at a loss
Are you saying the WiiU was unprofitable or each unit sold had no profit margin?

But that's what I'm talking about.
The intention of Nintendo is that the player can take the Switch off the dock at any time and keep playing.
If Nintendo releases 100% of the processing power in docked mode, some softhouses will make ports of games that run well in this mode, but run like shit in handheld mode.
This would force Nintendo to release more processing power for handheld mode as well and this would ruin the players' experience because the battery would run out pretty fast.

Doesn't it get your account banned and you can't play online anymore if you hack your switch?

When base PS4 came out it had the performance of a 750ti. I doubt PS5 will be any more powerful than a 1660ti (and it's amd equivalent since they are supplying the APU) also just because newer HDMI standart supports 8k doesn't mean any games will use it. Although i am wondering how amd is gonna handle raytracing, if they can one up the current generation of rtx cards and deliver more than 10 rays per pixel without suffering a huge hit that would be cool.

Both

It sold at a small loss, not sure how long this continued but i'd imagine margins never got much better as they only dropped the price once and only $50, and I don't think it was profitable overall. Nintendo posted losses for those couple years surrounding the Wii U's launch despite the 3Ds being healthy, I believe they also bought some new buildings around then as well though, not sure how that factors in.

if only they still made those instead of ports and cardboard.

Good thing they do

I own a switch and won't be buying the next nintenkid console if they continue down their current path.

Not with emunand. Emunand creates a virtual replica image of your switch system on your sd card that cant be detected and you can do whatever the fuck you want on it.

Then if you want to go online or play your legit bought games you just reset your system and boot into the regular official firmware.

Why would anyone buy a Scarlett or PS5 in 2020 when you can just get the improved versions in 2022 AND youll get a bigger and better library to boot.

they don't.

Wow, user, what will Nintendo do, how did we make good games before PS4 and PS5? Surely it was impossible to create good games in any of the previous gens!

Sure do

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>THEIR GAMES ARE GOOD GUIZ
>actually no
>WHO CARES ITS NOT GOOD AT LEAST IT MAKES THEIR STOCK HOLDERS MONEY!!!!
retards

>actually no
Cope

consoles are underpriced, smartphones are not
but of course you didn't know that, Daddy N*ntendo can do no wrong, they are the best of the best :D

>smartphones are not
Fucking lol. Not only do you pay well over the actual value of the phone, you are also forced to pay for completely worthless features and are locked onto a contract costing upwards of $80 EVERY MONTH.

Imagine celebrating getting your balls flattened by cellular corporations because you are mad at a toy company lmaooo

>Native 4k
>60 fps

Who goes on the internet just to lie like this?

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>Imagine celebrating getting your balls flattened by cellular corporations because you are mad at a toy company lmaooo
sooo... n*ntendrones?

fps
hahahahahaha
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lol no

Sorry retard the general consensus says pokemon let's go is garbage

Huh? That doesn't make any sense you retard. Cellphone companies suck ass