Cut the current Smash roster in half

>40 characters
>Echoes are their own slot
I tried to make mine as objective as possible.

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why Greninja over Pokemon Trainer?

pokemon trainer is 3 characters

Pokemon Trainer is three characters

But its 1 slot

True. Even then, I wanted to rep nu-Pokemon

>Cut ZSS, kept Ridley
Somewhat based, I like how ZSS plays but she's not essential as we already have Samus

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Cut daga are the worst kind of people. Go back to America!

Cut cloud and greninja, add ice climbers and bayonetta

Other than that it´s a pretty good list, you even kept the fire emblem folks I´d keep

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Here is the site I used if you want to make your own.

Cutfags need to fuck off

looks perfect as far as cutfagging goes

It's a hypothetical, calm down.

>cut Bayonetta but keep fucking Banjo
Hell no. Bayo actually gets new games.

3 FE characters but 2 Kirby characters? Thats gay

>Keeping Greninja over Charizard
>Keeping Banjo over Bayonetta, who is a Nintendo character now that actually has a new game coming
>Keeping Sonic when NOBODY gives a fuck about Sonic anymore
>Three Fire Emblem characters
So OP are you just retarded or what?

1 Rosalina and 39 Lumas of varied colors

>THREE fire emblems when there are only 2 Krbys and 3 pokemon
Neck yourself

>Keeping Banjo
>objective
lol

Change Ike with MK, Greeninja with Charizard, and Bayo with Banjo

Why even do this?

Like I’d rather just end it at ultimate than get another smash with half the roster what the point, it’s not like ultimate is brawl with a joke of a competitive scene, the next one isn’t going to be “melee but with only 40characters they balanced it!!!” Project M proved that melee mechanics for every character isn’t even all that great so what exactly would this hypothetical seller roster smash be shooting for? Frankly ultimate should be the end and a future “smash” game should be like a one player adventure game or rpg or racer or something with “smash” only indicating that it will have characters from tons of different games.

Seriously, what would be the point of making another smash if we cut half the cast or even 20%

>I tried to make mine as objective as possible.
>Fucking Banjo over MK, Charizard, Bayo, Rosalina, ROB or Wolf

Then don't fucking buy it. Smash 6 is clearly happening, and we already know the roster is shrinking. Don't like it? Leave.

This is all Smash needs.

>1 protagonist, 1 neutral, 1 villain per main series plus MAYBE a female character if they're important enough
>Lesser series get 1 rep
>The max amount of third party crossovers
>Characters like Falco, Wolf, Ken, Lucina, Roy, Ike, Pichu, etc. are alternate costumes for their rep
>No more gay characters like Yoshi; he's instead now a stage thing/assist character you ride on like the classic Yoshi

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>Objective
>Cuts Fire Emblem Characters

You're a fucking idiot who literally cannot seperate his Biases from anything

Based

Also
>No more "on the fence" characters - as in characters who are the controllable character in their game but don't even have a fucking name or set gender like Robin, Miis, "The Hero" would be called "Erdrick" or something and "Villager" is gone because who the fuck is that compared to Isabelle

WARNING: great list ahead

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>no Jigglypuff
Every time

Smash Ultimate won't even happen again. Sakurai made this clear. If there's another smash, there will be cuts

I don't think it gets better than this

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Cut every single fire emblem character, the rest is a good list

I was more basing it off the concept of Smash being a new IP in the current year.

Mostly because my actual list was pretty much this

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How many fucking times do we have to tell you
Character slots arent a fucking commodity, if the Miis weren't characters, they wouldnt be replaced with other characters

So you admit you're part of a casual audience
Not even just casual, casuals are well aware of Fire Emblems existence, you fellate the fucking Wii Nunchuck

Not really, user. That's three characters. Three distinct movesets. Although OP counting echoes as slots is kind of questionable.

Fuck what was the site for this again? The other one still doesn't have Banjo or Hero.

This is the only list that makes sense.

>tfw put my main in cut

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They're sort of commodities. It's not so simple as picking one character over the other, but there are numerous characters they consider, and eventually they've got to make a call on what they want to do given the time and money available to them. Even DLC adheres to this. So no one is stealing slots or anything but there is a point in development where characters are considered lower priority or more suited for other roles compared to others. It's not wrong for fans to question whether or not those priorities were misplaced.

Fire Emblem won't but cut.
You might want it really badly, but its not going to happen.
Suck my cock

Why does every one of these lists cut Lucario? I've only played smash like 3 times but he seems unique to me and he's been in for a few games now. Is he an echo of someone I don't know about or what?

Cutfags are mentally ill.

Cut Marth. Even FEfags don't pretend he's relevant anymore.

>not wanting to purge the furries and avatar non-characters
see above and Lucario is similar to MewTwo

List of characters cut in the past
> Young Link
> Dr. Mario
> Pichu
> Roy
> Mewtwo
> Snake
> Ice Climbers
> Wolf
> Pokemon Trainer minus Charizard
> Lucas for 6 months

List of characters cutfags always seethe about
> Fire Emblem characters not named Marth/Robin
> post Gen 1 Pokemon
> Mario characters added after Melee
> Ganondorf
> Falco
> Dark Pit
> 3rd Parties in general
> Inkling

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Trainer is literally 1 slot, should definitely be 1 character on the roster. You wouldn't remove Sheik and Zelda if they were still connected.

>Cut one of the original 12

shit list

>lucario is similar to mewtwo
You've never played them, literally the only similar move is shadow ball and aura sphere

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Yes stfu zoomer

In terms of variety, i'd say your lists suffers, but that is expected from getting rid of half of all current characters. Now in terms of objective representation, i'd say this is actually one of the best i've seen so far. It gets rid of secondary roster fluff (yes, including characters i enjoy) and still represents all these awesome series.

The only flaws i see are the fact that you got rid of Pokemon Trainer (i know they're 3 characters, but they use a single slot). PT is the perfect execution of the main mechanics of Pokemon and is the absolute best rep for it. Pikachu can stay too for obvious reasons. A newer pokemon is necessary to rep post-Gen 1 Pokemon and Greninja is stupidly popular and somewhat more bearable than the other modern reps, so i can deal with it. Any list that leaves only gen 1 pokemon is absolutely idiotic and useless.
Another flaw is the fact that FE has too many reps. Mario, Zelda and Pokemon having 3-5 reps is understandable due to them being the most important Nintendo IP's, but it doesn't make sense in a more Niche title like Fire Emblem. I like Ike, but remove him and leave the OG Marth as the simple Neutral-based swordie along with Robin as the Strategic Spellsword to showcase. With Ike's slot gone, add in Joker or Bayonetta. I dunno which one would have wider appeal, but Bayo at least has the ballot results to support her, so i'm inclined to say Bayo.

With these changes we keep the IP representation to the maximum and leave only the most fundamental characters, making it very well rounded.

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most objective list

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pretty much this, give or take a few picks

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Cutfags also seethe about the Mii Fighters

Good list, but get rid of puff and either Luke or Gren to leave 4 Pokemon. 6 is too much.

-Just gonna assume most clones/echos are gonna stay 'cause they REALLY don't add that much to development time. If anything their moves should have slightly different properties (Daisy) or they should have different specials (Richter with different sub-weapons, Dark Pit with different weapons from Uprising)
-R.O.B, WFT, and Banjo should stay specifically because they represent particular parts of Nintendo's history (NES, Wii, N64). Duck Hunt and G&W shouldn't because what they represent isn't as important (and R.O.B is a better rep for the NES era that DH).
-Third-part characters are great so as many should stay as possible. Joker's probably the least historically important tho so he can go.
-imo Robin is the perfect FE rep. so make Robin's copper sword have a tipper, but the levin sword have a roy-style sweetspot (non-sweetspot is around current damage, sweetspot does obscene damage/knockback), so you still have the functions of Roy/Marth. Besides that, have one flat damage Lucina-type character. Preferably, replace one or both with newer FE characters to shill the newer games.
-"replace their functions" doesn't necessarily mean a 1-1 replacement. It means like have one new character that's a fast Joker/Shiek-type character, one character with a multi-character gimmick like Rosa or ICs, but one new Incineroar-type grappler, etc

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I can see suitable replacements for some of the characters you listed, Like Ryu Hayabusa replacing Sheik, or Giant Panther replacing Incineroar, but there are others that are too iconic to replace in their archetype. I mean, who could pull off boxing better than Little Mac? Or dual-character better than Ice Climbers?

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>Getting rid of any of the original 12
Never gonna happen