What class do I roll?

SoA becomes piss easy around the halfway point, anyway. So it's irrelevant unless you play modded.

Kill yourself

Mage multi class is much stronger than mage dual class in the end since you get high level abilities from both.

Anything but melee unless you want a game that plays itself.

No love for paladin, slaying demons and dragons?

wild mage

I know dragons with feet like rabbits. IT'S TRUE I SWEAR

import your class from bg1 you FUCKING IDIOT MONGOLOID CRETIN

what is the difference between multi class and dual class

Are Monks complete dog shit? I feel like since its based off 2nd the answer is yes

multi is leveling two classes at once and splitting up your exp between them, dual is leveling one up to a certain point, then switching to a different class and being locked out of your original class' abilities for a short while until you reach the same level then you have bonuses from both classes

Blade.

You can cast Wizard spells, pick pockets like a Thief, fight as well as a Fighter, insta-pass Lore checks, have a high Charisma for better store prices and as a kid growing up in Candlekeep, it's one of the few classes that makes sense.

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they're good

>class that makes sense isn't even in the original without mods

retarded class with no semblance of balance
just another beamdog shitstain

Monk. DMM is awesome also monks are badass.

Bard is in the original, you stupid faggot. When you import into BG2, it allows you to pick up a kit.

Goddamn, I hate you underaged zoomer retards. Blade is not a Beamdog kit. I hope the next time you dilate, you accidentally stab too deep and they chalk you up as another tranny suicide.

so then you're not a blade in the original, you're a bard

Yes, a Blade is a kit for Bards. Welcome to 20 years ago.

Haer'dalis is even a vanilla blade companion

he doesn't exist in bg1

Totemic Druid

Look at the game the OP posted. Notice the "II" after Baldur's Gate?

Tell me what you think that symbol means.

Cavalier that's specialises in Two Handed Swords. Get that Carsomyr, cast Draw Upon Holy Might, and go and slay EVIL.

This thread is for bg2 in case you haven't noticed

why did they change the look of the armors, spell fx and icons in the EE?

Because the EEs are for gay retards.

They integrated most of popular mods. They even wanted to integrate BG1NPC mod IIRC but weren't allowed to for a reason I can't recall

ok Yea Forums

what to do?

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If you wait till SoA is almost over before getting Carsomyr instead of steamrolling the game early on with it, this is actually one of the comfiest playthroughs that BG2 has to offer. Two-Handed Swords has really smooth progression from Sword of Chaos to Lilarcor to Warblade to Carsomyr.

gay fanfic mods that turn your party members into obnoxious jrpg characters like bg2

>playing Bioshit JRPGwannabe garbage where you have to dig through a mountain of fucking WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS bullshit and shallow as fuck gameplay and in the end it doesn't fucking matter
Holy fuck.

They start really weak, you're complete deadweight for all of BG1. You become good midway through BG2 and in ToB you can just right click any enemy in the game and go do whatever you want while your character kills them

only two of those four things is correct

please don't tell me you can give him 20k worth of sexual servicing to bypass chapter 2

BG1 isn't supposed to have monks in it or half-orcs.

Who the fuck plays vanilla BG1 instead of Tutu, BGT or EE these days

Bard

no, he will laugh about you being so naive and shoos you away.

Me because all of those fuck with the gameplay and spawns.

nice

The meme is that in the Throne of Bhaal you get to levels that give you HLA's (high level class abilities). Both mages and warriors get overpowered shit from this.
If you dual class you essentially stop leveling the first class and level up the second one. If you multiclass you level BOTH classes at the same time. This means that at the endgame you end up with HLA's of only the second class, but with multi you get both which enables you to do some absolutely insane shit (timestop and greater whirlwind).
The weakness of multiclass is that they don't have class kits (berserker and kensai are better in every way from a regular fighter), and the XP required to get to higher levels - you're essentialy splitting all xp you're getting two way. It's also weaker early-game if you're starting in baldurs gate 1, but that game quickly turns into a faceroll if you do sidequests.
Dual classes don't get the HLA's of a fighter, but the shit you get from class kits and mage HLA's more than makes up for it. The problem is that it's harder to plan out and is significantly weaker in the mid game - when you dual class from say fighter to mage, you lose all the bonuses you had from your first class until you get to the same level on the new one. This means that your char has to get carried through the midgame until you use both classes abilities. The payoff is the fact that you get mage HLA's much faster on a dual (since you're leveling one class instead of two at the same time, and getting high levels requires much more xp than the early ones).
Tl'dr i'd go multiclass if you don't want to bother, dual if you want to plan your character out completely.

>game quickly turns into a faceroll if you do sidequests
durlags tower exists

I just beat BG1 and 2, where do I go from here?

From what I've read stuff like Icewind Dale doesn't have enough story for me, and Planescape doesn't have enough gameplay.
There's also the modern stuff; I have Divinity OS 1 and Pillars 1 ready to go.

poe1, 2 is bad
divos2, 1 is bland
pathfinder kingmaker

A good example of this is the familiars you can summon doubling your HP from what it's supposed to be.

Icewind Dale is combat focused but has better writing than BG1 and 2. There's still quests and towns and an overarching plot.

He could at least give me a coin or two.

If you have pillars already give it a try, you'll see if it's for you or not very early. I personally found it very boring
I played DOS 1 for 3 chapters and will finish it sometime. I enjoyed it a lot but it's weaker in some aspects, it's not focused on companions at all for example, there are only 4 companions in the game
There's also Dragon Age Origins a weird mix of a modern RPG and BG

>he didn't romanced Viconia
>he didn't choose to be God of Murder himself and save the world and unironically bring peace and prosperity on land
I hope you guys did everything right

But the Icewind Dale games are more plot focused than the Baldurs Gate games. That's why they are so linear.

grit your teeth through Neverwinter Nights's bland/terrible OC so you can make it to the godlike Hordes of the Underdark expansion.

OR

grit your teeth through Neverwinter Nights 2's bland/terrible OC so you can make it to the godlike Mask of the Betrayer expansion.

You found poe boring but not dos1?

if you become good you aren't the God of Murder anymore though

>thief
useless

I mean, technically you are. You're just murderning mostly evil creatures. A LOT of them.

NWN base game is boring garbage, desu. Never played any expansions because base is just awful writing and gameplay. I kept waiting for it to get good and it never did.

DoS' world and combat were more interesting to me. I don't think you even gain exp for killing in PoE
Also PoE has some weird ass decisions I don't like, in an attempt to make every stat useful to everyone I assume it has stuff like Barbarians prioritizing intellect

R8 my qt party

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Shit, I meant Icewind Dale

what's the purpose of making a cutie with a cutie face and ruining it with big ass tits

Thief is on par with zerker/arcane as best class in the game. Levels like a motherfucker and traps are b r o k e n. Once you hit epic feats you're obscene.

why would they integrate mods that change the fucking original assets? what the fuck you're not even playing bg2 at that point

>ruining it with big ass tits
>ruin
What did you mean by this

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>NOOOOOO CHARNAME'S OFFICIAL ROMANCE CAN'T BE THE CUTE 15 YEAR OLD PALADIN, IT HAS TO BE THE USED BLACK ELF INSTEAD

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I disagree, IWD is in my opinion the best infinity engine game.
Better than either BG or than IWD2 by far.

cuties are supposed to have small perky tits and maybe a decent sized ass

IWD games have best atmosphere and graphics.

No QT warrior girls should have big milkers that bounce around while fighting! Alternatively they can have big tits that are like forbidden fruit hidden behind armor.

Icewind Dale.
Then go for Pathfinder for more RTWP/D&D shit. If you're in the spirit for turn-based, go for Divinity Original Sin 1, which despite having pretty bland plot, has better combat than the second game.
Alternatively, grow a pair and play Temple of Elemental Evil, the greatest party based turn based D&D game ever made.

the originals yeah the EE not really 'cause once again they reuse BG1's dated and boring as fuck armors and spell FX

only retards use the EE since it breaks any semblance of balance or uniqueness of IWD by being a straight port of the BG2 ruleset with no effort to match it to IWD

Reminder that druid, paladin and ranger make no sense for CHARNAME to be!

Isn't the canon protag a ranger ?

baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/Gorion's_Ward
There is a explanation on how you become those classes

>Gorion talked about the outdoors sometimes and you even read a book about plants once so that means you're a druid
nah dawg nah

And Paladin makes no sense because you have to be an accepted member of a Paladin order, otherwise you're just a cleric/fighter larping. Anomen's very existence contradicts a CHARNAME Paladin

Nah, an unkitted fighter I think

>Everything else is middle of the road
Monks are quite powerful in the game, especially if Throne of Bhaal is also installed. It's been awhile since I played but in one run, I'm pretty sure I had over 100% magic resistance, fast moving without Boots of Speed (which allowed me to give teh Boots of Speed to other party members and end up with all 6 party members being able to run fast), Quivering Palm, and 10 attacks per round with fists that are +4 weapons.

I really like your tits, user.

At level 1 you are basically a healing guy who is good at taking care for cows and other animals. And then there is Jaheira to actually teach you.

why do insecure manbabies hate him even though he's their representation in the game?

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Only brainlets hate him, he actually has a great character development and turns into a total bro.

>4way spread multiclass
>retarded ass Qara on the squad
>no amon jerro
at least you have the cool gith on your team

its 3.5E if you're not multiclassing you're not doing it right

Gotta get that max STR for mega damage

Wizard or druid but mostly wizard

I haven't played nwn or 3.5 in a fat minute but I was under the impression that multiclassing anything other than your favored class + 1 other class led to massive exp penalties.

Blade was in the original BG2

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Humans have any favored class, and prestige classes like Dragon Disciple and Frenzied Berserker dont count towards XP penalty. So that build has no penalty

zero (0) [nada] {zip} penalties for it, which is why it's filled with busted-ass combos where you take one level of like half a dozen classes for sick benefits.

lol what? multiclasses are some of the most op shit in the game.

shit i forgot prestige classes don't count when multiclassing, thanks user

Getting some conflicting info here

You are correct about the XP penalties if you multi-class non-prestige classes with anything other than that races favored class IF they are more than 1 level apart.

>And Paladin makes no sense because you have to be an accepted member of a Paladin order,

D&D doesn't actually work that way with paladins though. Paladins in AD&D are basically people who were born heroes. They have retarded good stats and are so hyped on the idea of doing good that it gives them super powers, hence not needing a god.

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sorry, other user is right. you can't take whatever, but certain races have favored classes, and prestige classes don't count so while you can't mix and match literally anything you can do a lot of combinations.

In what order should you play the games?

Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate 1, 2, Throne of Bhaal, Planscape Torment, Neverwinter Nights??

never played Baldur's Gate
should I just skip the first one and play 2?
everyone raves on about the sequel

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People like BG2 because it's more dopamine heavy.

order of release

Skip icewind dale 1. Not because icewind dale 2 is better like some people say for baldur's gate 1 and 2, but because IWD1 is actual trash.

it's barely playable on modern systems though sadly.

>should i skip the first game to play a direct sequel
retard

afaik bg1, bg2, throne of bhaal, iwd and planescape are all 2e dnd, which use the same/very similar rules with some slight differences from game to game

nwn 1 and 2 use 3.5e dnd which is a more "modern" system, somewhat similar to KotOR I/II if you've played those. So I'd recommend playing the 2e games first then moving to 3.5e ones.

based tasteless retard

don't listen to that other retard, IWD1 is great and actually has a good plot twist.

Order is order of release, so
BG1 > BG2 > Throne of Bhaal > IWD > IWD2 (good luck getting it to run acceptably though) > NWN (shit game dont bother)

PS:T play whenever

playing the entire trilogy gives you one of the best feelings of progression in RPGs, you go from a wet square of toilet paper fleeing from a single wolf to a near-literal god. BG1 is a little jank and the first couple hours will probably have you die a bunch to almost anything, but it's really worth it to go from zero to hero.

It's not a Baldur's Gate game but anybody played Lionsheart or what it's called?

>NWN (shit game don't bother)
why be like that when HotU exists? NWN2 OC has its moments and MotB is great from what I've heard

It's just a slog from one diablo style dungeon crawl to the next. You almost never are going to open a door and find some interesting unique encounter just the same mixtures of melee enemy, ranged enemy, magic enemy used a hundred different times per dungeon.

Alright boys I've never played any game in this series but it looks super fun so I'm gonna try it. Any advice on stuff I should know before I start?

I've tried playing HotU about 40 times. I can't fucking stand it. The opening dungeon is so fucking bad and so fucking long, i just end up quitting everytime. I guess if you can handle that immense slog it might be ok.

>NWN2
Can't stand it either because of god awful camera, character models, shit looking equipment and terrible fucking UI that doesn't even tell you what buffs are active, but what effects you have (so instead of saying "bless" it'll say "AC bonus" or some retarded shit).

berserk -> cleric

>playing the entire trilogy gives you one of the best feelings of progression in RPGs,

>be 12 years old playing the BG1 demo
>spend forever trying to beat it as a wizard because I'm a retarded kid
>if I beat it I'll finally get enough experience to get level 2 and get level 2 spells
>beat mulahey and talk to the mayor
>level 2 only gives me one new slot and no new spell levels

You'd think this would piss me off but it was the moment I fell in love with the game. Because at that point I could basically see the entire journey. It's the kind of feeling you get when you're a kid reading the hobbit for the first time.

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You are squishy as fuck at level one. Get companions.
Lower AC numbers = better.
Lower Thac0 numbers = better. Don't ask why, just roll hue with it.
Spend some time rerolling for good stats (18 in as much as possible) because the difference is pretty huge but there's no need to get super autismo about it.
Ranged weapons are god tier early on.
Monk sounds cool but is weak as shit early game, becomes an unstoppable shitwrecker at high levels but it will take some time to get there.
Have a spare weapon in early BG1, sometimes that shit breaks and you don't want to be caught with your pants down.
HEYA IT'S ME IMOEN

its because THAC0 is the minimum roll you need to hit an enemy with armor class 0 and calculating a needed roll is THAC0 - AC, so when AC is negative, it means you need a higher roll to hit the enemt

>feel like playing D&D game
>remember spellbook management

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>spent hours reading the big thick game manual as a 10 yr old and planning out my character progression but being a dumb kid I went with cool factor over any kind of usefulness
>I'm gonna be a bard w/ halberds
>fuck companions I'm too good for them
>die instantly to the first shitty mage assassin at the Friendly Arm Inn because I can't hit shit and have zero hp
But man just thinking about the rest of the game to come if I could just get past that. Thanks for the nostalgia trip, brother.

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Dude, you mostly set it up once and you are done.
You know it's worth it.

Just play a sorcerer. They are like the brainlet wizards.

>What is sorcerer

The changes to vanilla ad&d make multiclassing fighter/wizard stupid overpowered.
If you want to run something vanilla and not retarded but still strong do an offensive caster cleric.

well yeah I know but when you explain it it sounds like overcomplicated dumb bullshit that makes people ask why the fuck

The mage at the Friendly Arm can really kick your shit in. Damn was I frustrated but still good memories.

>>remember spellbook management

That's the fun part though, getting to a tough fight and looking over your spellbook deciding what crazy shit you want to try.

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bg1 is very basic. you can skip it if you want.
bg2 goes right to the good stuff.

HOW DID HE KNOW

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berzerker dual to cleric right at the start.
specialize in warhammers and two weapon fighting.
you will wreck.

Fucking tranny lovers

fighter/mage/thief

(you)

when I did this I was playing multiplayer with some friends so as a result most of our companions were completely ungeared so we got this dialogue. Was pretty silly.

>Frenzied Berserker
whats that about

is that hair in the vanilla game or it's a mod?

>camp at lighthouse for dat sweet 2K xp per dryad
good times

is that a real photo edited to look like a painting

You get some good abilities like supreme cleave, which makes you cleave do 2 attacks on an enemy instead of one, Frenzy Ability which gives you +10 str at the cost of -4 ac and 6 damage to yourself per round. Frenzy at high levels also makes to immune to mind spells, death spells, negetive ability inflictions. Its a pretty good class to augment fighter.

Its a mod

>mazzy starts with 5 points in shortbow

Makes her useless desu

Is Cunt Bitch or Nagging Bitch a better class for a beginner?

>Frenzied
nice, thanks mon
how many levels until it stops being useful?
what would be good classes to implement also?

Multiclass is fine for your main character because you get all the exp. But the multiclass companions can be found at the very beginning of the game, so as long as you don't remove them from your party they will get enough exp too. The only kind of bad one is Jaheira because Druid levels slow.

Get her early so you can decide the rest

Just bought OS2, is it better to pick one of the predefined chars or make your own? Not powergaming wise, just wondering if you miss out on a companion's story if you play as him or if you miss out on flavor text if you play as vanilla hero.

Shortbow is better than Longbow by the endgame.

I really need to play this, want to just go simple and be a guy with a sword, maybe a shield or just a long sword by itself. Can I ever change my alignment?

It has good abilities all the way to 10 for a melee class. But if you want to mix and match taking it to level 2 for supreme cleave or 5 for deathless frenzy and enhanced power attack is a good option.

Any melee oriented class can be mixed with it and get pretty good results. Fighter. ranger, barbarian. You could even mix a few levels if you go cleric or druid but not too many because it would be bad for your spell progression.

Your alignment changes according to your actions, but it doesn't affect much unless you're a paladin.
If you're a paladin and you stray from chivalrous route, you'll end up a fallen paladin and lose your powers.

You know the class is in the original bg2 game ?

wrong

You gotta have Keldorn along for the best of it though.

thanks a bunch mon, never did try NWN2 but this is kinda intrigueing

>no viconia
why tho
although korgan/keldon banter is top tier

Do I need to play BG1 before 2?

>They even wanted to integrate BG1NPC
source?

Beat Icewind Dale 2, that game really lets you know that it hates your fucking guts and wants you to die. Holy shit the walls of meat you have to wade through and all of them stronger than you.

No, but in reality you should because its fun and it helps you learn the game before you are overwhelmed with abilities and enemies like in the start of bg2

I like how it shows how full of faggots (in case the dozens of gay mods is not enough) is the bg scene because romancing a 15 years is "creepy".

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Half-orc warrior/thief 19 strenght truck everything until you have have use any item in throne baal then become a god since you use mage scroll.Thats my solo build by the way.

I just started playing 1 and I'm not really enjoying it. Just got to Friendly Arm Inn. Everything has been practically one shotting me unless I can one shot it with a spell.
I know it's more dialogue focused but the combat is really bothering me. I hope I start liking it more soon.
Half elf conjurer

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Wait for the console release and play 3. You are the target audience for that one.

The last time I got it to work by using Windows 8 compat mode for some reason but that was more than a year ago

not really the first game did not age well on the otherr hand BG2 is likely the best rpg bioware created even if you compare it to mass effect and dragon age

I usually disable companion lethal conflict on subsequent playthroughs because Keldorn getting pissed enough with Viconia over some ribbing to kill her on the spot is rather silly. Sure, it makes sense in hindsight if you consider that his character is not all flowers and sunshine and he has serious difficulties forgiving and believing in redemption, which is explored in his sidequest, but that just comes out of nowhere otherwise.

How badly cucked are you as a fallen paladin? Can you regain your powers if you do enough to turn your alignment back around?

>]
Its hard until you get to lv 5 for mage or buy the wand of fireball.

...

No, but you should, because you can import your BG 1 character into BG2 and the plot of BG2 implies that you had played BG1 and will reference events from it.

BG1 is better than 2. Durlag's Tower mogs any dungeon in BG2.

Use ranged weapons and crowd control spells. Get party members asap. You should have Sleep at level 1, it's incredible. It can even put down an ogre long enough for your team to tear it apart.

My absolute nigga FPBP. I have wet dreams about that place. It is the most kino of PC housing in any game.

Also OP, it might seem boring, but I like going long sword and shield for my fighter because you miss out on a lot of great items if you don’t utilize those.

Everyone telling you no is a retarded shithead. You're going to start off with like 40 different spells and a bunch of spell slots and have no idea how the underlying mechanics work.

Yeah low level is like that and you're also playing a fragile class. You can get Ajantis in the northern map if you're playing a good party for another tank, or Kagain in Beregost if evil party. Both of them have bad dex though

Yeah, that's the problem people have with that cringy shit romance. The age. Not the autism-tier writing or obscene melodrama (if u cheat on me i wil literaly die of broken hart user :,( ), but the fact that she's 15.

the first game is boring...

Indeed. If you read the complains since forever in forums. The age factor is noted again and again. Only after that the 'writing' became a problem. Classic.

>not flail/long sword
Come on.

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>Player character paladins, with the exception of blackguard, can become fallen if they kill an innocent or if party reputation drops below 7 (the same is true of rangers). Fallen paladins lose a lot of experience points and all of their paladin special abilities. Redemption is possible if, during the events of Shadows of Amn, the player obtains a paladin stronghold and completes all class-specific quests associated with it.

if you're some RPG newfag who makes a level 1 wizard, gets magic missile and doesn't get any fighters and thinks he can solo everything like his favorite mmo
get a sleep spell and a sling and get some fucking fighters

>played through BG2 twice
>still no idea what the point of strongholds is

You actually can solo everything as a level 1 wizard, but you gotta learn how the game works first. Unfortunately for most, learning things before they can get good at them seems to be a repellent.

I second that user. The problem with ID is that it's a very combat heavy game, but Infinite Engine game is not really that great for combat heavy games. Especially the ones about fighting enemy hordes.
It's good if you really have to scratch that IE itch, but if you want to take a party and stomp some enemy hordes you are better off with games like Wizardry or Might and Magic, or even just hack and slash.

Are you me

Lol-level mage is an absolute pain for low level DnD. Especially in BG when losing your MC is a instant game over. You are actually playing the game in the hardest possible way, everything later should be easier.
You might want to restart as a tankier class. It's DnD and fighters get outshined later in the game by wizards but it's not a big issue since:
-Even later mages can die pretty easily which is not an issue if the companion dies since you can resurrect him.
-BG1 doesn't really get into high levels
-You will have 5 companions at all times on you first playthrough and they can take care of divine spellcasting

>better off playing a hack and slash or a keyboard facerolling simulator like might and magic
Holy shit were you dropped on your head as a baby?

Technically you can. BGII is basically a side-story to the entire saga and you can play through it basically ignoring everything related to the first game until the Throne of Bhaal. And IMO TOB is pretty mediocre IMO.
But I personally wouldn't recommend skipping BG1 since it's a really charming game on its own.

>Goddamn, I hate you underaged zoomer retards. Blade is not a Beamdog kit. I hope the next time you dilate, you accidentally stab too deep and they chalk you up as another tranny suicide.
kek'd

Icewind Dale for 90% of the game throws one horde of boring melee mooks after the next, it's an absolute slog. Yes playing a mindless clicker is better than that because even though it is mindless, it's mindless fun.

Roleplaying

Is that a chink?

pillars is pretty dull, I preferred tyranny

>kill Sarevoks mentor
>lose TEN reputation
lmao I didn't realize Trudeau started at Bioware.

>You can improve the pathfinding by setting the "Path Search Nodes" value to 400000 in Baldur.lua
>You can improve it even further by adding also adding 'Game Options', 'Enhanced Path Search', '1'
What the fuck, why aren't these like this by default? There are actually some interesting options in this file

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BioWare are canadian.

you just described every infinity engine game

that's not even true

You killed a wounded man that wasn't even evil.

>the first game is boring...

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Do you think there will be poe3

Other IE games are much less focused on combat and actually have other things going for them.

hopefully not
but yes there will, it's already in development. it's not isometric.

yes quality bioware romances and lolsorandumb humor as you explore empty maps
are you expecting every fight to be a mage battle? stop rest spamming

He's literally Lawful Evil and his entire goal was to raise the new God of Murder. He's no damn innocent.

My recommendation for you is Dragon Age: Origins if you can get it. I loved Ice Wind Dale 1 and 2. PoE 1 is pretty boring like most people say but I haven’t played the expansion at all. I’m one of few people that prefer PoE 2 more. Im not a big fan of the Divinity Original Sin games. I got up to the first really big boss in the game, and he immediately wiped my whole party with his first action. I looked up strats on him and found out you literally don’t beat him without cheesing so I dropped the game. I played DOS 2 to the end, but ultimately don’t give it any more than a 7/10 at absolute best because of its lame forced jokes everywhere.

did you not find his diary?

Only valid because of the upgradable flail you get in best keep.

The former makes Imoen unnecessary, the latter Jaheira. Choose whichever you don't want in your party.

I did, so fucking what? It doesn't absolve him of anything. We literally witness him try (and possibly succeed) to murder the 2 remaining lords of BG right before this as well as his other multitude of crimes. This is a garbage thought process honestly.

the celestial sphere is where it be at

>yes quality bioware romances and lolsorandumb humor as you explore empty maps
Like actual dialogue, plot, quest variety, side-activities, literally anything. Even romances and cringy humor aren't that bad compared to literally nothing.
>are you expecting every fight to be a mage battle
I'm expecting amount of literal thrash-mobs to not be so high, they overshadow everything else in a game. The final boss battle was actually dope, but most of the game is thrash.
>stop rest spamming
You don't really need to rest spam in Icewind Dale, since martial classes are actually useful.

what determines what stronghold you have if you're dual classing?

You can choose whichever you want, same with multi classing

It's almost like you killed the respected leader of the dominant merchant house in the city.

Not to say Bioware didn't make a lot of shit design choices back in the day, but it really sounds like you're confusing "reputation" with the good/evil dichotomy bullshit later BW titles would crutch on.

You get to choose from all the strongholds your classes have access to but you can only get one.

He's straight up labeled as an innocent you twit. That's why you lose 10 rep. It's bullshit. Literally "if you kill your enemies they win."

>Not to say Bioware didn't make a lot of shit design choices back in the day, but it really sounds like you're confusing "reputation" with the good/evil dichotomy bullshit later BW titles would crutch on.

It's not a hard mistake to make considering the fact that evil characters will bitch about people liking them too much.

icewind dale has more unique dialogue, c&c, and reactions than bg1 and 2 combined

Viconia or Jahiera for a paladin?

Like what?

obvsly viconia and turn her true neutral

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*Ahem*

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fuck off and die

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class specific and alignment specific quest resolutions and actual stat checks, whereas in BG you're just a generic blank slate with charisma only affecting shop prices

Spend untold hours on my android pad playthrough just to get fucked by a bug in the Dorn questline where he meets the planetar in tob. Too lazy to import the save to my computer and clua console.

No, you did win, he's dead. The people hate you, is all. That's the definition of "reputation." A more apt cliche would be "I won, but at what cost?"

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choose wisely, bros

No dumbass, he's labeled as an innocent by the game itself. It literally is "if you kill your enemies you win" shit. Even besides that though, Viconia alone proves rep is a simple good/evil tell in this game.

he was doing the same thing Gorion was to PC you doublenigger

>Not dualing mage to fighter at level 2 for that true Watcher of Candlekeep gameplay.
It's like you didn't even grow up in the greatest library on the sword coast.

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Except evil you stupid fuck. That's not even the main issue though, the issue is they have the gall to call him an innocent just because he got knocked down a peg. That shitty asian chick tries to give you the same fucking guilt trip so it's not like this is isolated.
>Oh, what's that? You want to kill the people who almost destroyed Baldur's Gate, killed your dad, and tried to murder you up and down the Sword Coast while they were trying to become the God of Murder?
>If you kill him you'll be just like him :^)
Fuck off with this trite shit.

who the hell is this

Wizard

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This is why you do evil playthroughs you autistic fuck.

>tumblr nose

dis nigga never been up north

Nah, this is why EEKeeper exists. Eat shit nerd.

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Canadian*

the hell is a tumblr nose?

sup summer

Since this seems to be the designated CRPG thread: I bought Pathfinder in the sale. It's fun but I'm getting slapped around pretty bad. I went after Tortuccio and now I'm lost in the dark getting fucked up by spiders and kobolds. Most of them I can get through okay but the kobold alchemists and other fire dudes hit hard and I have no healing spells/potions left. I wanted to just get outside to rest but I can't find the way back.. I know I'm just being a brainlet and I'm gonna perservere, I guess I'm just wondering if it's early to be there. My party is only lvl 2. Also I went with eldritch scoundrel but who even knows how well I distributed stats.

Wait, so a Bard is good?

I made a fighter/cleric in BG1. Might switch to a Blade in BG2. Am I stupid?

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the only game where bards are good is IWD

berserk -> cleric is fucking brutal mon

how good are bards in bg1/2? What's a good dual class for them?

They wont ever come close to fighters or clerics in BG2 but you can still make a relatively powerful character.

very fucking good you dont even need to dual my man, check the kits and make your picks, they get fucking monster

Do I not wear armor and just use an armor spell? That spell casting restriction was what made it seem wonky to me.

divine spells can be casted with armor on

I mean a Bard. Arcane spells and armor.

heard it was nice to start as a mage then switch over to fighter asap just to get those level 1 spells

anyone tried this before?

Who is the official 15 year old paladin romance?
Is she in BG2?