Is it a good time to upgrade from GTX 980 to RTX 2080Ti for 3440x1440?
Will it be enough for Cybercuck 2077, Dying Light 2 and the rest of the new games in 2020?
Should I wait for "Super" versions even if they didn't announce a "Super" 2080Ti?
I know that RTX is a meme, but I need a powerful GPU just for the frames and my native resolution.
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no, the proper upgrade time is nvidia 7nm gpus whenever the fuck those come out.
You should probably be expecting a price drop. There is no word on a RTX 2080TI super only 80,70,60. That being said, based on NVIDIA's release schedules they could easily decide to reveal new 7nm cards in 2020. You should really only upgrade if the card you have just isn't doing it for you anymore.
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That's at least 1 year to wait for. Obviously there's no reason to upgrade for 20xx if you have 10xx GPU, but I have even older one that can barely even work with a new monitor and 3440x1440 now.
Why are GPUs so fucking expensive
1) memecoin miners
2) AMD dropping the ball during the past few years as far as GPUs are concerned, leading to a de facto monopoly by nvidia, allowing them to jack up prices and deliver really shit-tier tech themselves
GDDR6 and HBM2 are both more expensive to produce than GDDR5. NVIDIA has pushed the reticle limit of 12nm silicon meaning NVIDIA needs to produce larger SKU's to deliver adequate performance.
I don't know what's going on with AMD though, I'm almost inclined to working with NVIDIA to price fix the market. The pricing they choose for their cards almost seems too conveniently placed unlike their CPU's
btc hasnt been mined via gpus for a long time.
you can get vega56 cards for 200-250US right now, thats 10% less benchmark penusweenus than a rtx2070 at 1440p for half the cost.
whenever the real new gpu line drops from goyvidia jump on that. 2000 series is horrible value.
It's pointless to get anything worse than 2080 for 1440p. And even with 2080 you wouldn't be able to play with max settings and 60-100+ FPS.
In China it's illegal to buy ASIC miners and I suppose it'd be illegal for a vendor to stock them even if they're sufficently licensed so Chinese people turn to dGPU's as a method of bitcoin mining, it's very in-efficent but there is no better alternative.
most miners instantly exchange mined altcoins to btc
who even plays on max settings? what kind of retard has 64x TTSSAAMXAA on?
(the answer is no one)
both amds vega line and nvidias 1070/1080s can play every game on the market @ high 1440p no issues.
no, RTX series is such a poor value
for what purpose will i opt to choose the 7nm series over the 2080Ti?
did you even look at his resolution, v56 isn't going to do shit for him.
I'm still running an AMD Phantom 2 processor...how much longer do you think I have before it kills itself? Putting away money to get a new rig by end of the year
Do you think AMD and Nvida are price fixing because there is no way that AMD thinks the prices for the 5700 and XT is good?
Despite the death (or near death) of GPU mining, Nvidia is now of the opinion that their GPU's are worth that much now. Large organizations, even if they are in tech, are dinosaurs and it takes a long time for something to reach their brains. It's going to be a long while yet before Nvidia recognizes that the market has undergone another correction and adjusts their pricing model accordingly.
>Despite the death (or near death) of GPU mining
Why the hell people think that GPU mining is dead?
It's not.
Especially it's not dead for just regular people who buy GPUs and expect to sell them on the aftermarket later.
Do you think they are fucking stupid to buy something specialized for mining and then fail to sell it because no one cares about it and there's no demand for that hardware? GPUs are far easier to sell.
tfw neet using an hd 7850
I'm still using a 7850 as well. I could upgrade, but the truth is there haven't been any fucking games in a long while I care about playing at max setting anyway. I barely play anything new as it is.
>Why the hell people think that GPU mining is dead?
GPU mining has ceased to be cost effective in most use cases (the currency mined only barely exceeds the cost of electricity) and is no longer viewed as viable by most users. In a sense, it's a dead/dying fad, meaning that very few new GPU's will be used for mining.
If you're particularly into mining, or belong to mining groups or subreddits, it can be easy to mistake this continued enthusiasm for a continued general interest in mining, but that's simply not that case.
So what are people mining with these days?
Protip: there are countries with cheap electricity bills.
Nvidia "super" cards are getting anouced on 2nd of july so if you really want to upgrade now, ill wait till next week and "old" rtx cards will go down on price a little
While there indeed are places where mining IS cost effective, those places also aren't purchasing GPU's at the premium prices Nvidia production command in the West. That's the important difference.
Prices for hardware are the same or even higher than in US.
A processor won't really die unless you abuse it too much or you're really unlucky, so no need to worry about it breaking any time soon.
>rains
can somebody redpill me on dedicated mining cards?
are they still a thing? I could get unused one some time ago for really cheap, but passed on it. Are they usable in games?
YO WHO HIT MY NIGGA FAT BODY?????
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there is literally rain water on the ground
>wasting your time posting threads about gpus and waiting months all in the hopes of saving $50-$75 best case instead of just buying it and getting on with your life
Lmaoing at your life if you do this
This is and isn't true, which is to say that while the price of a GTX 2080 is within 20% of the same product sold in the West, there are far fewer enthusiast PC owners in China. Most Chinese gamers play in cafes. And while China accounts for some 43% of Nvidia's overall revenue, most of those sales aren't direct to consumers. Premium GPU sales are higher in the West, while mobile and laptop GPU's dominate Chinese revenue due to manufacturing.
All of this is why Nvidia's revenue has been down across the board over the last year, and is likely to continue this trend over the next quarter at least.
In short, digital currency mining was a short term fad that was only ever profitable as long as it's not popular. Nividia was slow to capitalize on the fad and is now in the unfortunate position to have adjusted their manufacturing and pricing models too late, and will now have to course correct.
Less power consumption for the same performance.
The answer is: Wait.
The 2080ti is overpriced and can barely hold 60fps in 1080p with RTX.
Why would you even buy a GPU right now for a game that comes out in a year?
>can somebody redpill me on dedicated mining cards?
They're a bad idea.
>are they still a thing?
Yes, and they still work as well as they ever did.
>I could get unused one some time ago for really cheap, but passed on it. Are they usable in games?
I believe there was a LinusTechTips about this a few months ago. The short answer is yes. The long answer is, yes, but you'll need to install custom firmware and use custom drivers that may or may not contain Chinese malware. In the end you can expect to lose between 10-30% performance by routing the display output through your motherboard.
What if I don't even give a fuck about RT? Have you seen screenshot comparisons with RT in Metro or BFV? It's BARELY noticeable and you wouldn't even tell the difference without 2 screens near each other.
Cyberpunk 2077 looks like the first big game to implement it properly, but who knows, mite be another Hairworks. OP was asking about nvidia, and you're already paying for the meme so why not wait for the good one.
I'm buying a Radeon VII to play it at 1440p
yes, buy now is the answer your looking for.
Nvidia.
THIS
My guesses based on past improvements,talking about triple A and ultra.
>3080ti-4K 120-144FPS +1000$
>3080-4K +100FPS 800-1000$
>3070-4K +60FPS/1440P +100FPS 500-700$
>3060-1440P +60FPS 300-450$
It's never a "good" time to upgrade. New GPUs are coming out next year, and the year after that and so on.
Best time to upgrade in recent years
>1000 series
>900series
>600 series
Worst time
>700 series
>2000 series
Fuck off learn your computers kiddo.
>It's never a "good" time to upgrade. New GPUs are coming out next year, and the year after that and so on.
I've bought the flagman once, it was GTX 295. I was much happier with GTX 670 after that even if it wasn't the best card in 6xx series.
RTX feels the same as 295 for me and that's concerning.
>1000 series
>good time to upgrade
With that jew price increase? I don't think so. If there's any best time it's when you know what games you wanna play. I don't even have a GPU right now because I'm waiting on Bannerlord
You're right but nothing will change because this is how we're wired
The RX500s and Vegas were superior to NVIDIA's offerings at the same price points.
The problem is NVIDIA has a monopoly on peoples' minds so they just assume that the NVIDIA product will always be better than the alternative. Similar with Intel.
Look into the 1660TI if you need a budget card, its between the two and also has the RTX functionality.
AMD releases the same GPU's as Nvidia that are more power hungry and a bit less powerful, but at the same price.
They were known for making a bit less powerful cards but for the cheaper price, however now they are making basically the same shit as Nvidia and for the same price as Nvidia.
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I've very convinced that AMD and NVIDIA are price fixing. They have shown no REAL signs of competition except in the CPU market.
Srsly, shouldn't it kinda be the governments business to regulate the market when it suffers from shortage?
Dumb fuckers are free to buy out all GPU's to produce tax evading cryto currency while everyone else has to pay inflated prices.
No wait for new Navi
Navi is fucking garbage that is already worse than VII which is worse than 2080 or 1080Ti.
Ray tracing isn’t a meme though
China is more concerned about the strain it puts on the grid. Don't forget that even though China has a capitalist economy now, they're still ostensibly a "communist" country. I'm sure they'd also really like to limit the access their people might have to an untraceable free currency as well.
1080p gang where we at? I don't have to fall for these jew prices when I run everything just fine.
That's why I said new Navi, rumor has it there will be a 10 card lineup in 2020. And Navi theoretically can be better than 2080 as the 5700xt only has 40 cu's Operating only at 225w.
I have the exact same card.
Just keep the temps low and max the pcap and you'll get to 2ghz easy before it under volts
And yes it's massive upgrade I had a 1080 and 56 then a 390x before that and it shits over them.
Don't go expecting crazy 4k fps on older games tho but the newer vulkan dx12 stuff runs amazing
Is it worth the money? Not unless u get it cheap for 900usd or under I paid 1k months ago and feel like I got what I paid for.
Be forewarned about rtx tho it's useless and runs terrible the frame pacing is fucked and the 43x.xx drivers are quite literally broken
Better question: will the 1070 and 1080 still ultra these games?
>2020
It's pretty depressing to wait with a new monitor with high resolution and 120hz and 980 that cannot fuel it.
At 1080p 60FPS it might.
They can't produce 60fps with ultras even in 1080p with the available games now.
>will the 1070 and 1080 still ultra these games?
If CDPR's past is any indication, yes and no. You'll likely be able to max them at 1080p, but at 4k you'll probably have to tune down a few options to get buttery smooth 120fps or even a respectable 60fps. At the same time, I doubt even the 2080ti will be able to max the game.
>Cyberpunk 2077 looks like the first big game to implement it properly, but who knows, mite be another Hairworks. OP was asking about nvidia, and you're already paying for the meme so why not wait for the good one.
>I'm buying a Radeon VII to play it at 1440p
So you paid 100$ less for 33% less perf over a 2080ti? Why? It's not like it's ever gonna get a decent cooler either
No fucking way there will be a 50% perf jump over a 2080ti
It cab barely handle well optimised modern vidya at 4k 60fps+ minimum let alone older shit
U got the pricing right tho lmao I waited a year and got mine cheap
Rtx is fucking useless
Turn settings down dumbass my 1080 ran stuff decent on mid-low 1440p ultra wide 100fps
Alt coins that people mine to buy BTC are mined with GPUs
>Turn settings down dumbass my 1080 ran stuff decent on mid-low 1440p ultra wide 100fps
Cool story, fucking retard.
What makes you think that I didn't try it already? Do you really expect GTX 980 to fuel 3440x1440 even with the lowest settings? Braindead imbecile.
No I oc the fuck out of my 1080 and it struggled to hold 30fps minimum fps with settings cranked at 1080p so no low end midrange cards will likely be the Min spec going forward in 202x
Anything under 6gb vram is also toast
No competition
>Inb4AMD
Fuck kinda shit are you even dribbling cunt? My 980TI runs more or less every game on ultra at 1440p.
I'm not the chuckle fuck who expected a high resolution to run on a card 5+ years it's senior fuckhead
Next time buy a used gpu or cheaper monitor so u can upgrade your gpu as well
u got a brand name gsync instead of a freesync knock off didn't u lmao what a tard
Those Alt coins are really hitting diminishing returns though. You know something has run its course when fucking Facebook puts out their own digital currency. I'd say BTC is getting that much closer to becoming a stable, usable currency instead of a fucking slot machine.
I'm thinking about buying a 1660ti to upgrade from my mem70 since it's actually decently priced, but I play in 1080p and not much new stuff. I think the most graphically demanding game I've played lately is FFXIV and the mem70 can easily crunch that game. Man, are there really any good PC games coming out in the next 1-2 years? Cyberpunk looks pretty shit if I'm being honest. CDProject makes these amazing looking games but they're always boring as fuck.
That 980 he's got only had 4gb of vram so his frame times would be abysmal (not that he even knows what that is) either way.
Nah not happening
Pascal is 3 years old time to retire it.
The only one worth getting is a very high clocked used 1080 Ti if only for the vram and price
Wait a bit for the S line to come out.
The baseline cards will probably see a price drop when that happens.
Also feeling the need to upgrade. My 1080 isn't holding its own in most shit anymore. Also after trying out a 1440p a while back, trying to play shit on a 1080p monitor looks like pixelated garbage. So I'm going to get a new monitor and card at the same time. Also because my 1080 is chugging in VR. It can barely handle an OG Vive.
>play new game
>put shadows to high instead of ultra
whoa I just saved 700 dollars what a life hack.
970 where garbage anything over a Vega 56 or 1070ti would be massive upgrade for you
As for cdpr and cp I think both them and their games are mediocre
Witcher 1 and 2 didn't interest me beyond the graphics and weird lore the gameplay was aweful especially the combat and especially in 3 so I have no hope for 2077
I hope the people that worked on deus ex worked on it because that series is beyond dead
Nvidia Super RTX cards are literally right around the corner.
Wait for 2080 ti Super, seriously.
>Fuck kinda shit are you even dribbling cunt? My 980TI runs more or less every game on ultra at 1440p.
Cool story, retard.
Maybe in 30 fps.
>I'm not the chuckle fuck who expected a high resolution to run on a card 5+ years it's senior fuckhead
Who said that I expected it to run well with that resolution, you fucking braindead imbecile? That's why I'm asking in this thread if it's a good idea to get 2080Ti or wait for the next get GPUs, cretin.
Get lost, you monkey with 2 digits IQ.
I feel ya
100hz+ 10ms also feels amazing coming from 16-20ms+ garbage no vsync
Aim for 1440p ultra wide 120hz
240 is unobtainable outside of csgay anyway unless u have a intcel 99k at 5ghz+
>just wait bro
>I'm sure [China would] also really like to limit the access their people might have to an untraceable free currency as well.
Given the way that so many Chinese millionaires have been buying up property in other countries to protect their wealth from the volatile Chinese economy, I can definitely see a lot of the BTC inflation coming from Chinese looking to hide/guard their wealth in a similar fashion.
I just got a 1070 ti Duke for 300; how fucked am I?
>Wait a bit for the S line to come out.
>The baseline cards will probably see a price drop when that happens.
2080Ti is not getting a super version afaik.
Why would the price for it drop?
>2080 ti Super
It was never announced though.
Gotta love retards like yourself who will get jewed out of their money this easily.
>Witcher 1 and 2 didn't interest me beyond the graphics and weird lore the gameplay was aweful especially the combat and especially in 3 so I have no hope for 2077
Nice shit taste, zoomer.
Lmao what the fuck settings are you using?
Nah it's gonna be a rtx titan at best
Then why buy a screen at full price before u sorted a newer gpu? I'm not the fucktard with a lopsided pc
Overpaid a tad if it was used.
Oc the core and enjoy those sweet Min fps gains and excellent power efficiency that amd will never have
>2080Ti is not getting a super version afaik.
Honestly, I 100% expect RTX to go the way of Hairworks. I think it's going to be dropped in the next line of cards. The tech just isn't mature enough yet.
Cope, poorfag.
>Lmao
Kill yourself, braindead ESL imbecile.
Overpaid.
For computer parts the answer is always to hold as long as you can unless you have money.
A 1060 would be enough for just shy of 5 million pixels, not at high though. I hate retards like you who have no idea about shit and buy a $1500 card so they can "crank the settings up to max" instead of just playing at high with a far better value card. You can literally get a used 1080/new 2060 and play 3440x1440 no problem at high settings.
>Why would you spend a shit ton of money and a good monitor to play at high instead of ultra????
Because you won't notice the difference except for the framerate drop you'll have. There's never a noticeable difference between high and ultra. It's not like going from low to med or med to high, ultra is a meme that's worthless to choose unless your current card is complete overkill and you don't care as long as you get 60fps.
I'm 29
The combat systems are trash and the entire series is over rated euro trash for reverse weebs
It's in every major game I'd hardly say it was a flop.
Even tessellation wasn't pushed this hard a decade ago
Wtf is esl?
If your gpu costs more than your entire pc chuck it out and build a new pc dumbass
Shh my 2080ti runs faster every time someone shits on it I cant handle all these fps and have to cap it
Jews had nothing to do with it. /biz/ fucked everyone.
>mfw still using my 5 year old PC i5 4590 with 16gb ddr3 1600 and gtx 1070
still runs every game i throw at it. imagine paying $2000-3000 to upgrade a PC in todays shit prices.
Everyone tests games at max settings so it gives a false impression
>lemme build a new PC cause my GPU cost $250 and my whole PC was 650 prebuilt
Yeah that's smart.
>OH OLOLLOLOLOOL< PREBUILD BRAINELT
Yeah I am a brainlet for not being able to order PC parts online 5 years ago. Lemme buy all my parts at 200% the price from local shops instead.
I have a 980 Ti that I got back when it launched 4 years ago. I still see no reason to upgrade as I only play at 1080p. Maybe one day I'll move to 4k when it becomes common for even budget cards to hit 60fps at 4k easily. But for now I'll just stick with 1080p.
>It's in every major game.
This isn't really accurate. It's in SOME major games, and in most of those it's not at all well implemented. Frankly, it really does remind me of Hairworks.
>Even tessellation wasn't pushed this hard a decade ago
And tessellation didn't come with a massive increase to the cost of the card or dedicated hardware. That's the difference. Given the downright dreary 20XX card sales, I don't think it's particularly outrageous to say that Nvidia may be rethinking RTX. It genuinely seems the entire line was a simple stalling tactic while they finish their 10nm designs. As far as I can tell the 10XX and 20XX cards are incredibly similar with the exception of the RTX cores.
Any 1660ti owners? What do you think?
It's alright, but 2060 is honestly better value.
>I'm 29
My condolences.
>1080p outdated trash resolution
I bet you still watch SD movies as well.
Get a mint 1080ti instead.
Basically a 2080 without RTX meme.
They go for 400-450€ atm.
There is the reasound NV stopped producing 1080 cards after announcing 2080.
They still produce tower tier card though 1070 and so on
Get a used 1080Ti instead, currently no card is worth it, they are overpriced as fuck and they will be for another generation thanks to AMD wanting to charge $500 for a card that is worth $250-300 tops.
Good card, better option than a 2060.
BUT FUCKING OVERCLOCKED IS GIMPED AS FUCK.
No shit, that's why I hate most of the benchmark channels/sites online. It's good to benchmark at max cause it paints the worst case scenario and stresses the GPUs tested, but alongside max details there should be tests for high. High looks better than medium in most cases, but still runs far better than ultra a lot of the time.
I admit, I run my games at ultra, but that's cause I can and I don't mind it since I still get 60+ fps at all times. I also play on only 1080p, I am planning to go for a 1440p (16:9) build on my next PC.
Wait for super to get announced, it's reported the regular RTX cards will get a price drop
Not anymore, that was before 5700 reveal, which turned a disappointment so the old RTX cards will keep their price.
SUPER cards will be weaker versions of the next tier cards.
Example 2060 SUPER is a weaker 2070.
2070 SUPER is a weaker 2080.
2080 SUPER is a weaker 2080Ti.
>user can't do research
Zoomer
Also forgot to mention the SUPER cards will be $30-50 more than the old cards, This way they are more expensive than the old RTX cards but cheaper than the next tier of cards, this way they don't make the old RTX cards obsolete.
Welcome to Jewvidia.
You will gladly do the research for me and my (you)s.
I'm still rocking a GTX 670 and see no reason to upgrade. I was able to run the new resident evil and metro games fine 1080p getting 60 frame/s
>2080 SUPER is a weaker 2080Ti.
Which is pretty retarded because it will get very close to 2080Ti anyway.
Even 2080 is only slower than 2080ti for about 30%.
Which settings did you play on? Low?
1080p at 144hz or 1440p at 60hz?
I'm getting a 2070 paired with an i5 or i7, and i'm unsure of what monitor i should get. My current old as fuck PC can barely push 60 on my current 1080p monitor. I may be wrong but, from everything i've heard, a 2070 won't be able to reach max fps on a 1440p on high enough settings to make having a 1440p worth it.
Since i'm not even arsed about maxing out graphical settings in games, i'm learning more toward 1080p so I can still have the games look decent on high settings, but also get the best fps possible from my GPU. I also have a PS4 pro, and i'm told that using them on 1440p monitors looks terrible.
Any 1440p diehards willing to redpill on why I might be mistaken? Or, for my use-case, is 1080p the best option? (I'm getting a g-sync/g-sync compatible monitor regardless)
You say 30% like that isn't a lot, that's a very significant difference.
30% is a fucking huge difference when it comes to high end cards user.
Super is what the base cards should've been at their current price
fuck novideo and fuck everybody who falls for their shit
Some stuff low some med. The game looked good regardless. The 2GB Vram is much more of a bottleneck than the clock speeds imo.
I'll take FPS over graphics any day. Though, I tend to play more competitive multiplayer games where frame rate matters more. If you play a lot of single player games, maybe you might wanna look towards high resolution.
Nobody "falls" for Nvidia's jewery, everyone knows they're scamming us.
It's just that AMD cards are absolute dog shit, especially for higher end cards there simply is no alternative to Nvidia.
I was really hoping Navi would be good, but instead AMD chose to pricematch Nvidia for no reason.
1440p is real nice but 1080p works just fine and the smoothness of 144hz is something you'll never be able to go back from, moreso if you play FPS games.
This time you can thank AMD for going full jew too.
main games i have in mind are doom eternal, BL3, and cyberpunk - all fps games that I think will look fine on high setting at 1080p, but will seriously benefit from high fps
144hz 3440x1440p
Nothing less is worth it and once u go from 60hz 1080p you won't wunna go back
I can't wait for 5k+ 240hz
Frame rate consistentcy and timing lows are even more important
Any time fps ms goes beyond 10ms even at 100fps minimum it's aids
$1 charge per increased cuda core
>2019
>1080p
please tell me you don't seriously do this
Radeon VII is priced at RTX 2080 tier, not Ti and the performance is around there as well.
Radeon VII performs worse than the 2080 by a significant margin and runs incredibly loud even undervolted. It's a shit card,
Seething amd poorfags
Its literally the best they could do and it barely edged out a 2 years old pascal 1080 ti
That's pathetic and not worth whatever dumb fuck pricing and meme hbm2 16gb of vram they crammed into the thing.
I haven't seen it crush nvidia in anything apart from buggy vulkan ports like wwz
I'm saying that there's no purpose for 2080 Super to exist because it's basically the same as 2080Ti.
It won't be significantly cheaper either.
>Falling for the RTX meme
1440p with 120-144hz with ~high settings.
1440p with 60fps/whateverHz and ultra settings if a game is locked with 60 fps.
/thread
>should I buy hardware now for games coming out in 10 months
Absolutely not.
Not only that but amd literally cancelled it just to have outgoing rtg morons who got fired after the fact uncan it to try and stay competitive at the high end.
What's even funnier is that a 400 watt 7nm monster gets stomped on by a 16nm 250watt 1080 Ti and 12nm 2080 at 200watt despite being hotter and having overbuilt cooler pcb and lots of headroom for oc uv as u said
Amd rtg royally fucked up rushing that card to market and have nothing to show on the rrt dxr vrt front till 20xx
I want to update my 1060 6GB, but I am waiting for a max settings 60fps+ 4K GPU to hit $500 or less.
So 12-24 months left.
>I am on a shitty oldass card that can barely run anything cause I am too greedy to shell out $100 for a used 580/1060 or half of that for a 3.5GB 970.
LISTEN UP FAGGOTS:
NEVER UPGRADE TO CURRENT GEN
BUY USED AND STAY 2 GENS BEHIND
NEVER BUY GAMES ON RELEASE
PIRATE ANYTHING WITH DRM(STEAM, EPIC, DENUVO, ETC)
DONT BE A GOOD GOY
>max settings
Sorry to tell you but that will never be possible. There will always be games that run horrendous at max everything, just play on high and get 40% more frames instead. You CANNOT see the difference between high and ultra in actual gameplay unless it's side-by-side.
By your logic everyone would be stuck at 1080p and barely above PS4 Pro/XboneX
Defeats the biggest purpose of PC gaming.
what are the chances that the gaystation 5 knows what 3440x1440 is?
>BUY USED
Cool story, mining fucker.
I'm not buying used trash from a miner. It's going to die within a month and my $500 will be wasted.
umm if you cant pull 144fps™ on Ultra Settings™ you arent a real PC Gamer™.
fuck off Poorfag™
It's going for 4K standard, which has more pixels.
Ultra wide is a meme also, I hate that it's been pushed on phones too
Depends what you wanna do with cyberpunk. Usually i wait to upgrade to the newest card right before a game releases. Buying a year out is silly.
That said, ive upgraded everything but my cpu and gpu, waiting for pc announcement of death stranding
Low. You’re not going to see that being a target other than 1080 and 4K*
1080 ti is your best bet, you can probably get one for around 500-600 and it runs most games at 4K 60+ fps.
Not always on max, but high should be fine.
I do with a 1080/7700k.
Why is my RTX 2080 (Non ti) running RTX games at 60FPS/1080P then? Stop lying.
Buy cards with GDDR5X memory then.
Yeah, a 980 can only run 1080. Dumb fuck. If you want the same pixel density as a 2k/4k just move your monitor a few inches back.
>Every used card was used to mine buttcoins
You're stupid if you believe /g/ memes
Shalom! Indeed everyone should buy NewProduct at the premium release price! Consume! Obey!
current cards are barely any different than Pascal cards user.
The only new in them is the raytracing gimmick.
You're a retard, even the 2060 can maintain 60 fps with raytracing on in many games.
2080 ti absolutely annihilates any game at 1080p, RTX On or off.
>Seething amd poorfags
Not really. Nvidia still generally makes the superior product, they've just failed with he 20XX line, which again honestly seems like a product designed to fill the gap between their aging 10XX line and their planned 10nm line. This of course makes sense when you read about the trouble Nvidia has been having with 10nm development, and of course when you see 20XX teardowns. It's pretty clear that the 20XX are simply repurposed/expanded 10XX cores with RTX added on. It seems pretty clear that Nvidia had planned for their 10nm cards to be ready last year, and when they ran into delays they mocked up a new line that would work with existing tech and stock. It also explains why they changed the naming scheme and why the new line of cards is so fucking big.
You'd think someone wouldn't just go on the Internet and tell lies.
You're right, i didn't lie.
>Every used card was used to mine buttcoins
>You're stupid if you believe /g/ memes
You fucking retard, there wouldn't be a reason to sell 1080ti unless it's a wasted miner's trash.
You did, it's on average 8% slower, which isn't "significant", and that's purely for video games.
8% is fairly significant when the 2080 already barely scrapes by as a 4K card, uses half as much power as the VII, isn't as loud and has more features.
Remember how i told you to stay 2(that's; TWO) generations behind? Now is the time to buy a 980Ti from someone falling for the RTX meme.
Try to concentrate when you read a post, then your reply is less likely to be another fucktarded question you could have answered on your own. Nigger.
Used 1080ti fits that bill nicely.
No way in fuck a big navi or 7nm nvidiot 7nm gpu next year will be that cheap even midrange.
Intel and arm will disrupt the market soon until the enjoy getting ass fucked on gpu prices
Agreed on buy used and vidya but 2 gens behind would be what a fucking rx480 and gtx 980ti which isn't exactly optimal even for low end 1080p 30fps
Didn't fail for me I don't use their rtx core shit and it's insanely fast runs quiet cool and absolutely creams anything I throw at it.
Meme shit like quake rtx is literally a tech demo while cool isn't something I give a fuck about
Also your lying about turing not been new it has more in common with Volta than pascal so your clearly a fucking moron it's a new arch unlike rebrandons rdna gcn+++++
As for 10nm who gives a fuck they don't need it
They'll do a Intel save face and quietly move to 7-5nm in a couple of years time when it's mature
This. You do get lucky and its a simple fix like a new fan or something, and you get the card for a giant discount, but buying a used 1080 ti you should literally always assume its an old mining card.
To jump in on this thread, is now a good time to jump from a 1050TI to a 2060? My card runs everything fine at the moment, but I have noticed a little slowdown in Total War 3K, and DOOM is right around the corner
If you can get one for a good price, sure.
2060 is a solid card, but personally i kinda wish i went for a more expensive card.
Who gives a fuck about 4k 16:9?
21:9 or wider is great and doesn't waste precious pixels on useless verical res
What CPU and other specs? Consider updating to w10 1903
$200 GPUs are more powerful than ever stop complaining like a fucking bitch
>Agreed on buy used and vidya but 2 gens behind would be what a fucking rx480 and gtx 980ti which isn't exactly optimal even for low end 1080p 30fps
What the fuck games are you playing that a 480 can't run at 1080 30fps? And stop putting 'p' after the resolution number, it implies that there are people actually using interlaced displays on their gaming pc.(even if there is, those people don't matter)
Regardless of that, the point still stands that 2080 is superior by literally every meaningful metric.
It has nothing to do with what is being done or what isn't, they have raised their prices and realized that they can get away with charging that much or even more because retards will still buy it and AMD are not stupid either, they can undercut NVIDIA by just a bit and then earn legions of followers that will defend them to death buying similarly overpriced hardware.
Some games offer interlaced aa tho like re2 remake albeit it outputs it at progressive
>not using a 1080i component tv on your xbox 360
What is this 2005? Newfag
Nah I'd wager next to a used cheaper and almost as fast 1080 Ti it's the most pointless card in the rtx lineup
>Consider updating to w10
Disregarded
Sadly this. I used to always go with AMD because I knew that they were always really good in terms of bang-for-your-buck. But now they're just going with the same price points as jewvidia, so what's the point?
I can't help but feel there's some sort of back room deals going on. Like they're coordinating price controls as an oligopoly.
We were comparing VII to 2080, of course 1080 ti and 2080 ti are also better choices.
VII litearlly has no place in the market, it's trash marketed towards idiots who are dazzled by meaningless big numbers and 7nm.
>An X-Toddler appears..
Wanan fight fgt?
8% is objectively significant.
AMD dropped the ball with their last gen of GPUs so Nvidia is basically free to set whatever ridiculous prices they want until AMD catches up
AMD has not competed in the mid range/flagship since the 290x.
What card is worth buying if i'm playing at 1080p 144hz and i'm upgrading from a 980
This is me atm (Ingame so it explains the temp)
I'm considering the up to the 2060 just so I'm kinda set, but I'm also trying to move country next year so I might not bother upgrading, cause I'd only have to leave my PC at my parents
What's your budget?
Imagine the salt when it becomes the new fury x instead smoll ram it has too much and still slow as fuck
I'm gen y actually and grew up with black and white rf analogue tv (I was/am poor)
Fite me my first console/game
was a late 80s dos pc because I'm not a faggot
W7 support ends soon so enjoy shit hardware support on zen3+ no dx12 no scheduler fixes mong everything else that's changed since 2015
Enjoy no driver updates and shit game support as well
Stupid Luddite running a 11 year old os
This is true actually, patient gamer is the patrician life style.
like 500
Why the fuck you using slow ass memory with a Zen?
Rest is fine maybe oc the 1600 to as close to 4ghz as you can once u get a new gpu
Ideally a used 1080 ti, which is basically 2080 performance.
But if you can't find an affordable used one from a trustworthy seller, get a 2070 instead.
>W7 support ends soon so enjoy shit hardware support
Must feel nice being tech illiterate. As long as Windows is 64x, 7 will run anything 10 can. That which can't, will be patched in manually by users.
There's not a single reason to buy 980ti in 2019, fucking retard.
I'll hold my hands up and say I don't know a LOT about computer stuff? I just bought a build that someone recommended me, and I know how to put computers together and troubleshoot more simple stuff.
I wouldn't know how to overclock my memory. I'll be honest, it's been a GREAT computer so far dude. It's ran anything I've thrown at it so far at 1080p and it looks brilliant
>>W7 support ends soon so enjoy shit hardware support
>Must feel nice being tech illiterate. As long as Windows is 64x, 7 will run anything 10 can. That which can't, will be patched in manually by users.
So your no better than those Linux faggots then.
Enjoy your ancient shit bomb os that was outdated 4 years ago
Next time don't get slow ass memory for zen
2133 is slow as fuck
Consider 3200+ cl14 and dropping in a 3600 next year when prices crash
What are some trustworthy sits for used cards?
Is there a catch all "good build" website out there? When I built this 2 years ago, I just got a few recs from a buddy, and used PCPartpicker I think it's called?
What noticeable difference ingame would I notice with faster memory then? I use an SSD so load times are almost instant, and I've never had pop in problems, although if I remember, popin tends to be an engine problem?
>shit bomb os
It's an excellent OS, you literally have nothing but your inane rantings to offer as critique. DX 12 is a fucking meme.
I only have experience with ebay personally, as long as you buy from a well rated seller (99.9% or 100% positive ratings and at least a few hundred ratings) with Ebay's buyer protection enabled, your chances are fairly good.
Worst case you might have to swap out the fans, but that's very unlikely.
>Is there a catch all "good build" website out there?
Logicalincrements
Theres nothing wrong with it apart from slow ass memory which Zen bottlenecks on hard.
Update the mobo bios and shove some 3200 in there
Your a fucktard mate your os is literally vista with a new ui and some tweaks
Windows 10 1903 is basically a new os from the ground up compared to older builds you might have tried so shit the fuck up about shit you know nothing of
Buy a freezer 33.
Get a GTX 1660Ti.
Overclock your RAM, you have a MSI motherboard so its easy.
he said his card works. where are you getting the ‘can barely run anything’ from?
>literally vista with a new ui and some tweaks
Lmao.
>Windows 10 1903 is basically a new os from the ground up
LMAO. It's really fucking funny seeing a tech illiterate retard trying to cold-read his way out of being cornered by someone who actually knows what he's talking about. Vista and 7 are different on a kernel level and 7 is superior in every fucking way to it, from the least to the greatest. You have no idea what makes a "new os from the ground up" and whatever delusions you hold in that barely functional brains of yours are as far removed from reality as possible. In fact, that's what Windows 10 1903 is, a slightly tweaked win10 with several tools that make recovering from the constant updating fuckups (like deleting MBR when it feels like it after the update completes) easier. It has nothing of worth other than having more useless shit crammed into it that wouldn't even hold up against a college level project.
Wait a month for Super, then yes.
Good goy
Lmao look at this seething cope when a self proclaimed tech fag is backed into a corner on his ancient os
Enlighten us with your system specs oh great one let us peons inside your vast mind of failed projects badly drawn sonichu porn and doujins
wait to those games are out and then buy. Buying now is stupid as the 20series is not that great.
The question is when the fuck are APUs gonna be good enough?
Don't get an intel processor dumbass
Kill yourself, underage filth.
The Radeon VII performs extremely well in workstation tasks at its price point. It's only worthless if you're only a gaymer
28 is under age? For what senior citizenship? Kill yourself before you die of old age then your w7 hdd might not rust by the time the cops backtracd your ip so I can read about the 75 years old windows 7 boomer hoarding ostan loli porn
PC Master Wait
>What are some trustworthy sits for used cards?
Don't buy used unless you can test it with the owner, play some games, use furmark / 3d mark.
Lmao amd gpu intcels btfo
>muh workstation in a gayman vidya thread
/g/o back
Why do you post like a complete fucking imbecile?
>Why do you post like a complete fucking siqcuntm8faken
Fixed that 4u seppo back to the drongo den with ya poof
dumb boganposter
competition drives prices down. nvidia has literally no competition. what makes it worse is amd has sided with nvidia on pricing now so there'll be a duopoly in a sense where they'll just milk all their consumers from now on.
I wanna build a new pc soon but I'm so out of the loop I don't know what to look out for. My parts are from 2013 and have finally died.
I was thinking about just getting one of the rtx (2070 i was thinking) just to have a gpu that'll last at least 1-2 years. Some people said the gtx 1660ti is good but I've compared benchmarks and it seems it's not half as powerful as the rtx 2070.
I only have a 75hz 1080p monitor so no extreme refresh rates or resolutions i would need a special gpu for. Is paying extra for an rtx worth it or nah?