>yet another muh crunch article
Is there any group more entitled than game devs?
>yet another muh crunch article
Is there any group more entitled than game devs?
I dislike Jason Schreier on a philosophical level but I appreciate and respect his journalistic professionalism. It's sad that he is what has to be considered the gold standard of video game journalism.
>Twitter screencap thread
fuck off, Activision
What cost could it possibly be for you to support workers rights? Like, what are you losing, you fucking corporate cocksucking faggot?
Bobby Kotick might make a couple million dollars less in bonuses!
The reality is, every workplace has crunch. That is, if you're not paid to make decisions.
please get back with an archive link
thanks
>murica
Forced overtime and not getting paid or get fired
Truly the greatest country
And the sad thing is that instead of looking out for each other, faggots like OP have been trained by their corporate overlords to go at your peer's throats. We have all the power over them, the second you fucks wake up and realize this the sooner we get 4 day work weeks.
The last good CoD was CoD UO
whoa, are those curved picture frames?
That’s why they’re spending so much time and effort immigrating Indians and Chinese who will work for twice as long at half the pay. And the millennials who are getting fucked over by it are asking for more because it gets them social media good goy points.
What do you think you're going to fix by whining? By demanding more rights, you're going to be replaced by pajeets who have no concept of a fair wage. You'd cuck yourself out of your own job.
Welcome to globalism.
this is about unions right? I genuinely hope western devs unionize and it accelerates their industry in to the fucking ground. The only western games I play are total war, xcom, and paradox games, and i only pay for xcom because i think the dev is handsome and cool.
No one here plays western games anyway so who fuck cares? Name the last genuinely good western game, maybe I missed it! GTAIV? Name a western game you are excited for! The first to unionize will be the first to collapse. The increase in price per game will collapse the sales industry en masse. Thus bringing upon the streaming games era ala Netflix for western games.
The problem isn't with the workers, it's with the employers. We need more regulation on business and respect for unions. Stop living in fear of your corporate overlords. Make a life for yourself beyond their reach, you cuck.
Exactly!
The fact that he would be a laughing stock in any other field, yet is the best journalist this field has to offer, is a statement at how terrible vidya journalism is.
if you cant handle the crunch get out of the industry
>We need more regulation on business and respect for unions
>Corporation moves its business to a country that it considers less of a nuisance and, again, proceeds to take advantage of foreigners with no concept of a fair wage
why dont they quit their jobs then
suporting workers rights would result in worse products that take longer to make
so in the end who pays the bill are the consumer
Reminder that unions will just cause worse games
>destroy 1/5th of your weekly economic output
lmao okay
The east is already beating the west at this.
Chinks can work more for less shekels. Unionizing will only encourage this further.
>more whining about how qa isnt retained for 5 years and given tons of benefits
Yeah wtf i flunked out of computer sciences and got a game design degree instead and now i open doors 500 times a day trying to repro bugs, what do you mean im not valuable??
>not being able to compete with pajeets
lmao what are you, a call center rat?
Pajeets can survive on $5 an hour by living in a small apartment with their entire family, the local population cannot.
unfortunately, "crunch" has become an excuse for corporate shills to deflect any criticism of a game.
like, for instance, look at pokemon swsh and the shitstorm over the national dex. game freak defenders' main talking point is that you're "entitled" for expecting all the pokemon to be playable because "they'd have to crunch to fit them in." no proof given, of course, but it's a clear attempt to silence criticism by making the critics sound cold and uncaring.
if you don't like your job, what are you doing it for?
what are you doing it for?
Yes, and? If you're an actually valuable worker, they can't replace you. Git gud (at life)
money
>We need more regulation on business and respect for unions
>Corporation tries to move its business to a country that it considers less of a nuisance
>CEO gets his head stricken off and directives get the rope for their trouble
wow that was hard!
Probably to live
When you have no other options, all you can do is suck it up unfortunately
If your government actually works for the people that is what it does. However we don’t have that government. We have government we occupying force hostile to citizens. As you see every single day. I don’t know how to fix it but voting sure as shit ain’t the answer.
>CEO gets his head stricken off and directives get the rope for their trouble
What fantasy world do you live in? Do you know how many American corporations are now based in Asia?
all jobs give you money, why work at one you hate?
you can live without a job
you have options, there are 6 billion jobs
Hi Jason.
Sjw jorunalist fighting so hard for unionisation something is very fishy here
A good amount of money actually. Like all the cheap and affordable tech is pretty much backed by slave labor.
Every western game I play is a few years old at least and I got it on GoG, except for a handful I got on Steam. Battlechasers: Nightwar was my last Steam purchase.
>annual releases
And the water is wet
Now do ubisoft
How come Yea Forums hates every video game company but still manage to be complete bootlickers?
Because he a joo?
Erik Kain was pretty cool, what is he up to? Does he guzzle onions now too?
Do you have a job, or do you solely identify by consumption?
kotaku offices are unionized iirc, so he knows firsthand how beneficial they are.
In a lot of cases it's not traditional two week crunch, it's crunching conditions for half a year.
>products that take longer to make
Not necesserily, a lot of problems lie with middle and even upper management. I understand that things aren't simple but something like restricting crunching periods to two weeks to a month every half a year seems reasonable.
>testers paid poorly
Aren't they just playing video games for living already?
Then you raise tariffs on those countries, that will bring the industry back :^)
Isn't that this the fag who said the Soreceress in Dragon's Crown having big boobs is totally haram and the devs are literally hitler for making the game with fetish stuff in it? That's professional to you?
>implying Yea Forums, a board full of NEETS leeching off their parents, understands or cares about workplace issues
God forbid extra time being paid and regulated.
FWIW it’s massively expensive especially when you can so easily hire Pajeet and Li who will work 16 hour days, never ask for vacation or a raise, and never complain.
I read that 70% of jobs in Silicon Valley are filled by foreigners. So Pajeet works for peanuts and Shlomo gets rich. Obviously having this amazing engine of prosperity inside our borders isn’t benefitting us, but it’s how (((they))) want it.
I’m not saying it’s right, I’m not saying I’m for it, I’m just saying I know why they do it. The problem is that they got the public on board by claiming it’s about “human rights” or some such nonsense.
>Schreier
>journalistic professionalism
Yes.
He has some REALLY retarded opinions but he's one of the only people actually doing real journalism instead of regurgitating press releases and calling it news.
>If you're an actually valuable worker, they can't replace you
They probably don't hate their job, they just don't have passion for what they're creating. I wouldn't blame them for not having any passion from the shit this industry has put out in the past 5-10 years.
Workers already have rights you fucking faggot. If they could, these companies would move to places where there are no rights like China and India. These limp-wrist faggots are lucky to even work non-physical jobs unlike the niggers in Africa mining diamonds for chinks.
post position
>We have all the power over them, the second you fucks wake up and realize this the sooner we get 4 day work weeks.
This is why your job is outsourced and we lost the entire manufacturing industry by the way. Maybe in a society of national socialism you'd have a point but we live in a globalized, multicultural world now with open labor markets so deal with the fact that you've made yourself replacable.
t. Accountant, I go through crunch period for 4 months every year
How come game devs are cucks who won't go on strike?
they're all 16 year old NEETS who spend time oscillating between complaining about Tifa's tits and sucking Nintendo's cock
They can be easily replaced, that's why.
CFA certified trust fund manager
Because there's an army of pajeets ready to take their place.
not to say different jobs can't be difficult in different ways, but I don't know how game devs manage to be so much louder and more obnoxious about it yet you barely ever hear about the struggle of laborers or construction workers or garbagemen or sewer workers or rocket scientists. surely their jobs must be enormously strenuous and not often in ideal working conditions.
There's two main anxieties to being a game dev: long hours that you may or may not be fully paid for, and office bullying. *Feeling sad* at your desk, to be clear, is your own problem. If you're feeling sad *because you are being targeted for harassment by other employees and you know this to be an actual fact*, then you have an actual toxic environment, and the only solution is going to be to just quit or go somewhere else. You can't just oust everyone else in the building to stay at a job you aren't clicking with.
The crunchtimes becoming standard practice is real and awful thing for the codemonkeys.
That being said only retards andd faggots willingly go into the game industry to code and thus deserve it
>journalism
>respect his journalistic professionalism
In japan when a company is suffering, the employees take pay cuts to help the company survive. even the CEO may do so, like Iwata did for Nintendo.
in the west employees are more like leeches on the underbellies of giant corporate whales. it feels like people are there solely for themselves.
Big fucking talk coming from Jason when during an interview he facetiously implied that children would be playing The Outer Worlds and that the devs should be worrying about turning kids into Nazis because you can side with the corporate entity.
Because they believe retards like these >468142829 , as if mobile game devs in India could make even the most simple AAA game.
#crunch2019
>his journalistic professionalism
>people who hate video games
>"Ew gross. Do they actually like video games?"
I just realized I was talking to Yea Forums so you faggots probably can't relate to someone that enjoys discussing vidya
These aren't just opinions he shares outside of work, he writes and publishes articles about it. That's about as professional "real journalism" as the shit I took this morning. And the overwhelming majority of his articles are exactly about regurgitating press releases and paid marketing. You can literally just google his article list and the very first page will be filled with the most disgusting shill crap like "x is the best game I ever played!" "online game Y makes some really cool changes, check it out guys!!". What a fucking joke. And let's not pretend devs reaching out to him once in a blue moon to write their sob story in hopes of improving their own lot is some praiseworthy feat on his part.
>contractors and testers
wow, who fucking cares
Super bunny hop > everyone else
...But what does Israel have to gain from exposing this?
testers don't make games, and literally anyone can do it
Many industries ride on slave labor to function globally. You can treat workers humanely, but it will have a financial cost.
My answer is simple:
I don't like the way they are trying to push it. It reeks of bullshit, and it sounds even worse coming from the mouth of a dickhead like Tim Schafer.
The whole unionization push reeks of something totally unrelated to helping game developers.
Game """Journalists"""
I hate this retarded no-crunch movement that has boomed during the last few years. Faggots like Jason is the reason Cyberpunk is coming out in 2020 instead of 2019 and the reason they scrapped multiple apartments, all because of muh CRUNCH BAD.
>but I appreciate and respect his journalistic professionalism
>"big bobs means loli"
lol
Crunch IS bad. A mind under a heavy load can't function to its full extent and neither of us want game devs to have their abilities crippled.
That's not an answer.
God do you retards ever stop worshipping Jews, you people are worse than fuckin' christfaggots bitch. Especially you, you fuck.
Yeah that all sounds nice on paper but the fact is that you NEED crunch to deliver a good game.
Were a fucking consumers for fuck sake, how the product is made is pretty much irrelevant to us.
If it worth our money, we'll pay for it.
Reddit tech workers deserve it for actively opposing unions
>I moved to one of the most expensive cities on earth to do a shitty job for barely more than minimum wage
>I'm smart and deserve the same quality of life as someone who worked their ass off for a math and science degree!
They want to do that, they can't sell their shit here. Simple as that.
they don't know what the purpose of 'crunch' is because all they do is type up shitty clickbait wih zero research that probably takes 10 minutes an article
what? If anything, crunch leads to worse games since all of the people working on it are fucking exhausted and frustrated.
I'm sorry but if the GDC awards are allowing them to openly use "rise up" propaganda like LITERALLY DIMMING THE LIGHTS AND SPAMMING "UNION! UNION! UNION!" in white text on a black screen, it's fucking suspicious and I don't trust it
I have the right not to trust them.
>Muh lucky to suck boomer dick from 9-5.
Fuck off Pajeet. just because you want to settle for a slave's life doesn't mean most of us want to. The time has come to slay our overlords.
>Schreier
>Shill for unions
How surprising.
Crunch is just bad management.
>CoD devs
>crunch
How hard is it to copy/paste 90% of a game then mask it with new art assets?
this is what people really don't want to acknowledge. the amount of bad karma we rack up as humans every day just to feed the machine is insane. think of the haunting atmosphere of dead baby chick and cow souls that must loom over meat factories. That was the shit they made us watch when I was in high school. The real shit. You don't know fucked up until you've seen footage of a woman whose sole job is just to snap the necks of young chickens and throw them onto a conveyor belt. or a guy who chops the heads and spines off fish all day. The most crucial jobs to maintain The Global Machine are also the most dehumanizing
Your answer isn't simple, it's nebulous. Some undefined conspiracy.
Retarded within the tech industry inside the united states. It's skilled labor. They don't have to work for these huge-ass publishers, they LET themselves be exploited when they could easily find much simpler jobs with their skillsets that pay better and give better hours.
On top of that, why expect the consumer to side with them after literally YEARS of taking shittalk from these very same devs calling for support? You call US the bootlickers, but these are the same people who've been defending the gross over-monetization, casualization, and politicization of the medium that's made the hobby the massive shitshow it is today. Maybe if they'd been talking about this ten years ago instead of how we shouldn't be so "entitled" for not wanting our goddamn games chopped up into pieces and sold in parts, we'd have been more willing to sympathize with them.
But no, they helped nurture this culture of greed within the industry, they fucking deserve everything they got as a result. You reap what you sow.
Why don't they just do what they did in the 80s and 90s, get a small team together and make their own game?
>The time has come to slay our overlords.
holy cringe
If it's a cause we need then name someone you find genuinely trustworthy who is pushing it.
They have to rush really quickly to add Battle Royale and other flavour of the month modes in before the release date.
The problem is that this would work in a situation were the power levels are the same and workers have the same level of powers as companies. Unfortunately companies got workers and government by the balls, if you're becoming too demanding, Ching Chong and Poo in Loo will gladly work your job with 10% of your salary and no advanategs without ever complaining.
The problem is that we're in a situation were Companies have a much much higher ground that workers
In a world of seven billion plus, you need tight border control to artificially restrict the supply of labour if you want workers rights.
did u know people used to work 14 hour days with no weekends? fucking leftists destroying western economic progress
Good thing it doesn't concern you.
Globalism is a mistake.
Yep. Christians and other liberal groups won workers rights and then socialists came in and tried to burn the world down to create utopia.
its hilarious to me that the people bitching about crunch are the ones advocating that the people who will snatch their jobs when they unionize be let in
it doesn't concern tim schafer either, he just let himself get bought out by MS so he's free to do anything he wants to at his leisure. It's not a cause that affects him now either.
What's suspicious about that happening at a GDC event? I have a right to question you empty reasons.
Then let's secure the border? I'm a registered dem and am a classical liberal. I care much more about our own citizens pockets than some fucking spics. And I certainly think we are more important than some company's bottom line.
you don't find anything suspicious about a big corporate jerkoff event gala thing promoting open rebellion against the system? that doesn't seem weird to you at all?
A little over simplified, but true.
They have to play the same game, over and over again for several hours at a time. Sometimes they'll require you to play one section dozens of times to make sure it's working consistently.
I love playing video games, but I doubt I could make a career out if it like that
>a big corporate jerkoff event gala thing
Do you know what GDC is?
Says the guy with no job.
You ever went out to see what real life is like? Ever considered other people as humans?
But no, you are entitled to spam the internet with shitposting because of your elite tastes in tranny porn?
>GDC
>a big corporate jerkoff event gala
???
A corporate event masquerading as an indie show, despite giving their biggest awards to AAA non-indie games?
>The time has come to slay our overlords
Funny how the ones screeching for unions and change are also the ones who want to make sure the citizens are unarmed
checked
If that was the case all IT would move to Asia. But no Asians are still moving to the west and getting employed here for bretty good money.
You're clearly seething, so OP won.
Garbage men unironically get paid really well and get great benefits. They have to if you wasnt to attract anyone to doing that sort of thing.
This is what gets me. People don't like suits like Kotick because they're generally assholes with pychopathic tendencies who only care about extracting every cent you have. The average gamedev is represented by people like CliffyB or Phil Fish (or even worse, gamejournos like Schreier) consumers like them even less than suits precisely because the dev will side with Kotick, morally grandstand, degrade the consumer and then expect their support, lmao
GDC is not a show and it does not pretend to be indie. Or corporate, for the matter.
did you just make this up? and you criticize modern labor reform while praising past labor reform?
Right, so you're unfamiliar with GDC. You just see "GDC" thrown in with "TGS", "E3", and "TGA", and assume it's like the same thing bro, I mean wtf they give awards to AAA games? How is this possible??
So it's a [not-show] where they award [nothing] to [nothing] and then give their biggest awards to [nothing]?
>CoDshit
>crunching
It's fucking bland copypasted shit. The only place they have serious work in is in the marketing department.
It depends. Working class people can get loud when they feel like, latest thing being gilets jaunes.
The Independent Games Festival and the Game Developers Choice Awards work independently from GDC.
>know a few left-leaning faggots who work at game companies and are willing to bitch about their employers under anonymity because they had to work 45 hours a week instead of 40
>contact them and get a few quotes about the "slavish" conditions at the studio so you can write an article about it
>HARD-HITTING JOURNALISM
He's a limp-dicked faggot who does the bare minimum of what his profession requires of him which makes him look incredible compared to most game journalists who do far less.
i watched the fucking show same as everyone else. they had a clearly gigantic production budget like a corporate event, but jerked off a bunch of indie stuff nobody played like Florence, while adding a bunch of redundant categories to jerk off AAAs like Spider-Man and God of War, conveniently the games Sony poured tons of money into marketing for
>Jason Schreier
He also uses a blockbot so there is a statistically high probability you are already blocked by him even if you've never once interacted with him.
>They want to do that, they can't sell their shit here.
Thanks for the fucking laugh, user.
Obviously I was talking about the GDC award show
I know you're meme'ing but this kind of sentiment is evidence that pro-worker activists don't actually empathize with workers, they just hate the rich.
Okay so the current tally is:
A small number of devs and journalists giving support for unions "smells fishy" because an awards show that has a budget and acknowledges AAA games to any degree also showed support for unions.
Flawless logic
are you serious dude
he looks like a jew
That's because he is.
>Is there any group more entitled than game devs?
Yea Forums
Yet again these dumb cunts start whining when they for once have to put some effort into their work.
Pathetic.
figures
what a repulsive species
the absolute state of western devs. none of these chucklefucks can make a decent game. all they can do is whine, apparently.
>contractors and testers
Are these the unskilled jobs? If so why wouldn't they be paid according to their expertise?
Why does Yea Forums have so many chapotrannyniggers all of a sudden?