Holy shit, just played this for the first time

TLOU was a game about Joel and how he tries to regain his humanity by doing inhumane things. Ellie was little more than a plot device with a cute face and tsundere personality to lure the fans in the story
TLOU2 being solely about Ellie has me skeptical, either ND will blow me away or they will fall flat, there will be no middle ground

Damn, here I thought all the controversy was about them just randomly deciding she would be gay in the sequel. Funny how different your paradigm can be with incomplete information

Don't really care about who she wants to fuck, even though it's retarded because if her immunity is hereditary she could be the mother to a new human race.

I'd argue the real underlying issue is the kind of mentality that makes ugly lesbians awkwardly dancing and smooching a bigger part of the trailer than much of the main gameplay. Then again, it's pretty par for the course for modern Naughty Dog, which is more interested in telling C-movie level plots with progressive values than showcasing good gameplay.

>I was only joking
Haha.

Yea Forumsirgins just don't like anything that looks SJW at a surface level.

DELETE THIS user YOU'RE JUST A BIGOT WHO HATES LESBIANS!!!!!!

>TLOU2 being solely about Ellie
They confirmed a long time ago that Joel was in it too.

Maybe as a side character though

How come leabian loli is bad when the west do it but not Japan?

...you’re fucking weird

>sjw devs
>trailer for zombie game just has lesbians kissing
>that nose
i mean come on

Their roles switch. We will play as Ellie with Joel being supporting.
Though he will probably die at some point.

Imagine how much they must secretly hate Joel as a character

when Japan does it, it's to be cute and/or sexy
when the west does it, it's to show how much better the creator is than you

GIVE ME SEXY GIVE ME SEXY GAME MAKER MAN PLEASE I NEED MILKY I NEED TO GET BONER WHILE PLAYING GAME WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

not only will he die, he'll fall into a vat of pig shit and drown or something similarly symbolically demeaning, ala mark hamill in nu star wars eating the monster puke or whatever the fuck. kill leftists

Nope. It’s because it was girls kissing. We got gameplay in the same trailer, and we got the consequences of Joel’s actions too. It was just a bunch of whinies mad because two ladies were kissing each other.

>main game is just a regular father/daughter buddy story
>DLC tacks on the faggotry

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TLOU was always about Ellie
t. 1k+ hours TLOU expert

you fucking wish lmao

Then explain the outrage even though user said people wanted gameplay and story continuation and that’s what we got?

Why are lesbians always ugly?

leftist propaganda

don't want to look at ugly people in my escapist entertainment.

This. Also the girl that she kissed looked like a gross cross between Anita Sarkeesian and the Armenian slut from The Young Turks with her massive jew nose.

Gamer brains are fucking diseased with delusion and self-loathing projections. Imagine being so artistically inert that you’re incapable of developing even your art CONSUMPTION habits beyond what you were comfortable with when you were 12 years old. Remember: you’re only hurting yourself by getting this mad about video game lesbians kissing.

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The two girls kissing in the trailer just looked kinda gross. I don't mean 'ew lesbians' I mean the two of them making out they way they did, the way the camera was focused on them for so long, the way the two girls were all sweaty and greasy like slices of pizza just genreally grossed people out. If they were cleaned up, and the camera faded away to gameplay after maybe two seconds of kissing, then maybe their wouldn't have been as much of a negative reaction.

Exactly. Angry over girls kissing.

stop being such an angry lesbian, you clearly have no fucking clue why we hate neil cuckman and his jew game, so stop trying to argue past us

Lesbains are bad when they aren't anime user.

ellie being gay was literately added on as dlc after the game first released
if this shit was planned there would be more signs in the first game, there are none, they just all of a sudden made her gay
if anything it makes sense for her to be demisexual for Riley rather than just flat out be homosexual, but no they can't have creative relationships like that, they HAVE to make her a lesbian

Not in my Japanese animes and manga

Amy Hennig was kicked out around the same time as the DLC released, like a few months after that.
It's glaringly obvious what happened.
Mongoloid, men can tell pandering from "pandering".

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>more signs in the first game
How? If it came up any other way I guarantee people would be screeching about how “forced” the signs felt.

I mean at most I can only think of how uninterested she was when she snatched the gay porno mag from Bill’s. She was curious, but not actually interested.

>left Uncharted and TLOU to work on a new Star Wars game
>Disney shut down production of that game
I hope she gets back on her feet somewhere.

It's really funny that those who are angry that Ellie is lesbian are the same who spout memes such as "having a daughter is the ultimate cuckoldry because the girl you raised and loved will a get a dick by another man"
They made Ellie a lesbian specifically to avoid fans being angry if she gets the D from another guy. It's the same thing with anime girls always being virgins, it doesn't count if they have sex with other anime girls

Maybe on a reboot of Blood Omen, but they would rape that ip too.

>men can tell pandering from “pandering”
Actually they can’t. If there’s one thing all the threads discussing homo character have taught me, it’s that there’s simply no pleasing everyone. Everyone draws the line at what “feels forced” and what feels “organic” differently. It doesn’t even matter how subtle or well-written it is or delivered to the player. Some people are simply mad about gays.

I fucking love this image. The editing, the absurdity of the demonic warping of the original meme, the artifacting, the cut off text at the bottom

It's perfect. This is a perfect image.

No, you're wrong about that, like 100%.
>bitch by testing you we could possibly find a cure
>MY BODY, MY CHOICE
>at least copulate with a man and let's see if the offspring is immune, that could lead to a cure
>I'M LESBIAN LOL
You're maybe a bit too young to see through their writing, but once you do, it's automatic

Can I get a source on either of those statements or are you simply projecting your schizo ramblings into an anonymous imageboard?

Prove that.

So, just how woke do you think Druckman will go with this game?

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Didn't she also kill Joel in the DLC for some stupid forced bullshit?

I was mainly mad because the girl she kissed was really ugly and Ellie is hot as fuck.

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1. Bodily fluids doesn't have to include saliva
2. The pamphlet looks like it was made during the very early stages of the virus spreading, so the information may be inaccurate. Why and how would scientists test whether saliva is able to infect people?

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>Jewish girls are ugly

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Bullshit we got story progression. We got nothing other than Joel is alive and there's an edgy cult. There's so much more to gain on information from even the very first trailer from the first game. It's literal night and day

Their only redeeming value are their tits, but they absolutely should be required by law to wear paper bags on their heads all the time, always.

True to life

imagine paying money for propaganda holy shit

Hold on a minute there buster

What if Ellie dosent spread the infection but instead her bodily fluids are a way for her to transfer her immunity to the virus

>TLOU2 - Ellie fucks her way to saving humanity

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I am hoping my Ellie grew out of her lesbian phase.

I find funny these writers trying to create post-apocalyptic world...
The girl is one of the few survivors immune to a disease that is causing the extinction of humanity, but somehow she lives like a american upper-class lesbian in all her alienation from reality caused by wealth and capitalism.
This is not how things work. In a post-apocalyptic society the world would return to patriarchal tribalism and Ellie would be no more than one of the many breeding women that men would capture among other tribes to ger pregnant and ensure the survival of the species.

OP confirmed retarded

Totally wrong user. The entire game is about Joel becoming human again through Ellie

The problem wasn't about the fact that Ellie was a lesbian, but rather that Naughty Dogs kept obviously pandering to the LBGTBBQ+ community for free advertising and exposure. it's saddening to say this but most of the vocal ones will fall for the obvious trap every time developers throw breadcrumbs at them

>post-apocalyptic world
>all the sane people aren't killing the fags left and right
Not realistic to be honest. Fags would be a huge hazard since they spread disease and immorality.

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>Kiss another girl when you're 14
>Turn in to a raging bulldyke who looks like they somehow had access to HRT in the post apocalypse

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What the fuck are you talking about. Its MORE cuck to like lesbians. Fucking hell dude if they like dicks then you can live with the hopes of fucking them one day. If they're gay you're cucked forever. They don't like dick so they don't like you.

Liking lesbians or yuri is cucked as fuck and only for 13 year old boys who don't know any better

You could almost say that Yea Forums is full of sjws

You haven’t played the game at all have you?

>immorality
Please don't. Deviants would be eliminated but not for stupid bullshit like that. If humanity is to survive, you simply cannot have fags and dykes refusing to propagate the species. So they would be forced to fall in line or rejected from society and ejected from the populace.

Same deal with all the post apocalyptic settings where homosexuals are readily and fully accepted. Completely unrealistic. On that same thought, women would have no fucking rights either. Society would revert and women would lose power again and become basically slaves

How did we get consequences you raging fag? The gameplay was barebones and showed nothing worthwhile either. They focused on a pointless Cutscene for brownie points

Internet in a nutshell. Same thing happened with GG. Tifa is another fine example. Most people I talk to are mad about the new outfit than the boobs, but because certain people have agendas to run, the real facts get shunned

Joel will 100% die. Why do you think we haven't seen him at all?

What is it with the retarded people who make these games and always putting faggots and dykes in a post-apocalyptic world?
You telling me that in a world where humans are few, they would be wasting their time with anything that doesn't produce more humans to keep the species from going extinct?
Not to mention they would be the first to get murdered by the people who currently have the guns, you think your fellow hillbilly preper is going to keep around a bunch of faggots and dykes alive.

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>when you realize the alt right is the same as the sjw movement

Horseshoe theory strikes again

Nice agenda projection. It wasn't an issue before and it isn't now, until you people made it one

Some being your key word there bub.

start of the game you play as joel and halfway he dies,thus when you take control of ellie.

>Halfway
More like five minutes before the tutorial ends

People are mad about the outfit making the boobs smaller. All the idiots are jerking off while they click share on that sports bra video, not realizing that doesn't fucking matter since you will never get to see the "hidden" size under the bra. It's an excuse to reduce the size of her tits, not a reason
>but my friends say it's the clothes!
Because if they say it's the tits they risk being shunned by our shitty society you nigger, come on

>rn
Kill yourself

This isn't a mad max scenario, user. At least not in America in the setting

What is saliva if not bodily fluids?

Trust me, my sister's,cousins, brother roomates, girlfriend's,boyfriend's, friend's, mother's, friends with benefit friend's, uncle works at naughty dog

....

uuuuuggh.... *sigh* you stupid bigot, don't you understand that she needs to make her own choice in a post-apocalyptic world so that she can at least have a strand of hope and happiness to fall back to? besides were talking about a world where societal norms are rendered useless, there's no reason anyone could force her to procreate, they have no authority over an individual

It's still in survival mode and dykes are not part of the solution. Your feelings stop mattering when humanity is on the line

Why is that all these games have people from different races working together when society collapses? That shit makes no sense whatsoever.
It would be like prison where people stick together with their own kind, also gays would be genocide, and women basically property once again.
Having the Fireflies continually shown to have female leaders is fucking laughable.
Humans would basically be cavemen with guns, none of that equal rights bullshit.

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I played only the first one. And it's already ridiculous on this point. In a world where society has collapsed the last thing people would think of doing with a girl who is immune to an illness is killing her to do a brain biopsy. This is completely ridiculous.
Obviously after having played TLOU1 I didn't play TLOUS2 because I have good taste and avoid shitty games.

we seriously need to go back to beating gay people back into the closet

>Damn, here I thought all the controversy was about them just randomly deciding she would be gay in the sequel.

It was randomly decided in the DLC
And then they made sequel focus on that

I'd say it would depend on supply more than anything. A Last of Us scenario seems like you still have solid civilization in it and livestock, going by the fact Tommy had several horses. if the dyke pulls her own weight and others in a community are breeding, she might get away with it depending on the structure of the place.
Since several kids were shown in the original, I don't think there's a gigantic population concern to where there would be enforced breeding, anyway

That's because these bastards no longer want to tell stories and create fantasies, they just want an excuse to present their ideology to the world, as if the world were worried about what some narcissist writer thinks.

Gonna be honest here, I have no issues with ellie being gay or whatever, I DO have issues with how forced it was. TLOUJ was a solid 7/10 for me, Not amazing, but decent. I liked it enough to probably go through it again. The DLC? Almost made me throw up with how badly it was written, and her stupid lesbian friend thought a party in the abandoned mall was a good idea? Like cmon. If you're going to make ellie gay at least give her someone who isnt a total retard, that in itself is more offensive to me then the forced kiss in the trailer, which only exists to hammer the point in that shes gay. Bad writing always does this. People always rely on kissing and sex to establish the fact of someones sexuality. You can be gay and still express your feelings without the wanton sexual tension. Its just awkward as fuck to watch.

was too lazy to reply, but this

I never assumed she was gay based on that DLC. Just thought she experimented as a kid and it was just a cute thing they wanted to show.

thats a subplot
Joel doesn't even become human because he gets obsessed with Ellie to the point that he lies to her and make an important decision for her despite knowning that Ellie wanted to die.

We called it out then too considering there are dialogues of her making fun of gay people and talking about having crushes on boys in the main game.

Also the trailer for 2 made it a central point over what the central theme of what the original was about. Sure we got gameplay and the things we saw, and this is more about humanity's failures, but it was an unnecessary thing to be showing, whether it was a man or woman.

Pretty sure it was meant to be that way, but then the other director left and thus Druckman went fullblown woke.

Yurism is the purest form of love.
Cocks ruin everything. Glad Ellie is lesbian.

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>Remember: you’re only hurting yourself by getting this mad about video game lesbians kissing.
But can't the same be said AND much earlier than even the first game's DLC of those who screech about sexy anime girls. It's utterly pathetic that pixels and polygons doing anything matters to people.

It wasn't even meant to be that, she straight up says she had a little bf crush in the main game, they just replaced it with a girl because of Druckman and then he took full control afterwards.

>implying homosexuality is a healthy lifestyle worthy of promotion

Replace it with a man and woman kissing and it still would have been out of place. Kill all gays, though.

Joel is going to die, he's been in none of the promotional material besides the announcement trailer where he wasn't even fully shown.

no, not at all, she saves Joel's life in the dlc,

This, there was no point in trying to drive home some perfected society and dance trying to survive when the main culprit of the game is trying to drive home that humans are part of the problem. It's retarded and came off hamfisted and poor.

Pretty sure Joel will already be dead by the beginning of the game, we might see him in flashback or just voice overs.
At any case he will be killed offscreen.

People did not freak out. People were disgusted by how fucking awful she and her hook nosed bitch looked.

Nah neil made ellie a gay because it pissed him off seeing straight women cosplay as her

Urd and Belldandy kissed? Damn.

>Joel will 100% die.
just like when Yea Forums predicted Kratos will die
or when Yea Forums predicted Peter Parker will die

they hated it ever since, where the fuck have you been

To be fair they both did die, they just came back to life.

Well in this case I wouldn't bet against Yea Forums. Cuckmann is a huge jew.

he didn't even kill off Nathan Drake, why do you think Joel is such a guarantee

Peter didn't die

The whole idea is supposed. Within 6 hours of someone in an authoritative position learning of her immunity, she'd be strapped to a table somewhere. Assuming there isn't a collective of people with the resources or manpower to make that happen is ludicrous and seeing as she's the most valuable thing on the planet, they'd dump them all into getting their hands on her.

It's like Fallout games implying women would be independent, run shops and caravans, and be able to walk around freely. At some point, every beta protecting them would be dead and every woman would be in chains.

Wait, TLoU2 still isn't out? Wasn't that game announced like 3 years ago?

announced less than 3 years ago

This has to be the biggest strawman I have ever seen

Stop pretending to be an SJW

People are sick of the over-representation that a group that makes up like 1% of the population are getting and the fact its only being done for money.

Pretty much.

Wow, you're just ignoring reality, huh?

That wouldn’t make any fucking sense, look up Typhoid Mary.

Joel was already mentioned by that asian man in the barn that was talking to Ellie,
said her old man had been working with him all week or something like that, so he is still alive at that point

He most definitely did.

I forgot this shit game was a thing lmao.

It should've ended at the part where the dudes daughter died. The game was good up until then. Everything after was a fucking train wreck

more like at least 5% friend, so around the same as the US make up of asians. Way more than jews, who are in fucking everything.
>overrepresented
there is really not very much. Especially if you want good stuff. When 90% or more appeals to you and other normies, why the fuck do you care about a minority of shit that doesnt appeal to you?

explain

Fuck off back to /pol/, you can spout that it's propeganda but in the end it's just putting focus on two lesbos kissing.

If it was two traps fucking eachother up the ass you'd be all over it, faggot

BLACKED

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>it's just putting focus on two lesbos kissing.
Yeah for a VIDEO GAME.

>If it was two traps fucking eachother up the ass you'd be all over it, faggot
Literally "you hate gays YOU ARE GAY."

>Joel, his brother and his brother's wife run the small community they established in bum fuck nowhere
>Ellie would be strapped up in that community
Ostracized and maybe even by other community members because of the disease, sure, but considering the ones in charge she wouldn't get the under the knife treatment. Have you even played the first game?

I accept your concession

I don't think so. Just because she did some weird shit while being kid doesn't mean she will grow up into lesbian. But knowing who is writing this you can put 2+2 together.

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YURI IS CUTE

When characters are cute 2D? Yes

He was vaped by the infinity gauntlet you braindead retard.

As a massive yurifag that loved that scene in the DLC and is looking forward to lesbian Ellie action in TLoU2, the E3 trailer was repulsive pandering.

I’m like basically the intended audience for it and I thought it was bad, now imagine normies and Yea Forums.

It doesn’t help that the kike that kisses her is ugly, slutty, and attention seeking (although I can see they want to play up Ellie’s naïveté) and Ellie needs a cute loving black girl to replace the one she lost.

Insomniac's Spider-Man is not part of the MCU
Peter Parker did not die in the game,

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We weren't talking about that, retard.

>more like at least 5% friend

Fucking faggots are the most unselfaware shit heads on earth

the common Yea Forums theory was that Insomniac would kill off Peter and Miles would be the new Spider-Man that you played as
just like Yea Forums thought SIE Santa Monica would kill off Kratos and you had to play as Atreus for the rest of the game
now Yea Forums says Joel is going to be killed off, some ITT say he's dead before the game even starts, despite direct references to him being alive and kicking in the last trailer
Yea Forums is never right

I always assumed she was a bi-sexual since in the DLC where she kisses the black girl she comments on how "Hot" a guy looked when he was younger.

No doubt she's just a carpet muncher now

not even the girl kissing Ellie was full lesbian,

A few retards saying that doesn't mean it was Yea Forums's theory. Anybody that followed the official talk about the game knew it wasn't about Miles. Stop trying so hard to win an argument you lost.

lmfao did you think in the context of that conversation, they were talking about Yea Forums predicting whether or not Spider-Man *in general* would die or not? Tf outta here, of course they were talking about Insomniac's spider-man, dumbshit

>Yea Forums is one person

nah, everyone just prefers lesbian minors over lesbian adults

When will games go back to focusing more on the gameplay than the story and "inmersion"?

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It's called genres, my dude. I don't load up TLOU when I feel like fast paced action and little to no cutscenes.

We knew, everyone knew. The problem wasn't Ellie, the problem was walrus nose she was snogging
Her nose took up half of her face and seeing a relatively normal looking girl kissing that looked like a page out of The Outer Limits

Nah dude you’re just mad that you feel like you’re being cockblocked from fantasizing about polygon pussy by a digital lesbian

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nintendies don't play games outside their bing bing wahoos, that won't stop them from shitposting though

remember during the first reveal of the game during all the interviews when Naughty Dog said they weren't going to make a sequel? lol

and?