Glory kills ruined Doom

people enjoyed it simply because it was a fun game. it didn't try to be too modern, it didn't try to be too retro, it didn't appeal to any sociopolitical agenda, and it didn't try to subvert expectations. it was simply a fun game and there's nothing Yea Forums hates more than that.

the lack of expressions made doomslayer for me, but i guess in this sequel he has more SOUL?

Yea Forums just hates to admit that Doom 2016 didn't just go back to the old formula of run and gun, but, in fact, improved a lot of those core philosophies

>DoomGuy is faceless
Never heard of... Doom ?

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They changed the formula from run - gun to run - gun - stop. Wow.

based retard

Then don't glory kill then. In fact, Doom 2016 was inspired by Brutal Doom, wich had a kind of Glory Kill.

This is the only major flaw modern doom has. Too bad it is such a huge flaw.

Doomslayer is NOT Doomguy.

Boomer vs zoomer

god forbid they incentivize more aggressive game play with small health drops from glory kills

Contrarian teenagers ruined Yea Forums

Orange/Blue stumble mode is dumb as fuck, fuck you.

>Render from Doom 2016
again...are you ok retard?

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congrats for having the most dumbass retarded opinion on the board out of the entire day

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He is.He simply evolved.

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na they were fine, just fast enough animation to not be annoying. and later on when you can glory kill from further away it's quite fun

you can literally turn it off

That's fucking shopped, moron.

It's not just one thing but the whole approach to designing the game.
>Then don't glory kill then
not impossible but it is designed and balanced around the gimmick, even if you consciously avoid it the game still presents you with glory kill opportunities at ever step with enemies having a stupidly high chance to stagger/recover and a chance for stupidly high damage resistance while in stagger state

>one entirely optional mechanic ruined an entire game for me
way to be a literal mouth breathing neanderthal

what do you mean

you are a fucking retard
the game literally punishes you badly if you try to glory kill too much, especially in Nightmare
in fact going for Glory Kills at all is super risky on Nightmare unless its like the last demon left

they just renamed him to be a gender neutral america-friendly character.

It's a pretty essential mechanic to the flow of the game. And it simultaneously destroys that flow.

there's an option under Gameplay to turn off the glow on stunned demons
like they will still get stunned at Low HP but they won't glow anymore

This.

I really like the way Doom Eternal is taking.

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it's so cringe when people cry about games they obviously never played :(

no it doesnt enemies still drop the same amount of health and ammo if you finish them off with another shotgun round

You don't have to glory kill them retard

>nightmare
yes that's another point though, it completely goes against the intention of glory kills being "push forward" combat when it's more likely to just get you killed
straight up bad design

>They make killing demons by shooting pointless
Did you even play the game?

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>id paying attention to Brutal Doom was a bad thing ever
Yeah, I think it's time to step away from the computer until you grow a sense of taste, bud.

it's risk reward design
you gain a bit more HP and save on Ammo, at the cost of potentially leaving yourself open to an attack if you aren't aware of the area
not a hard concept to grasp

oh cool

no, its the fact its designed more like serious sam is what killed it plus the lack of modding

>doom 1 had you navigating mazes while killing lots of monsters with very elaborate designs
>doom 2 threw in even more monsters to the mazes
>both had tons of custom maps people could play and could mod it to add more enemies, weapons, or even change the entire game to be something completely different

>d44m has you walk in more simple mazes that are sprinkled with zombies that can be 2 hit with melee for free health & armor shards i think armor shards and the occasional imp and locks you in arenas that just teleport monsters in
>d44m had snapmap but almost none of the maps were worth playing since they're all "FREE 99999 DOOM POINTS" or whatever it was called to unlock armor bits
>cant mod d44m to add in new weapons or monsters
>the chainsaw is just a glorified ammo vending machine instead of a chainsaw

i hope doom eternal is better

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They gave you Snapmap you filthy peasant. Modding is theft.

Glory kills shouls be faster, I find they break game flow when there are a bunch of demons and they just wait for your cutscene to finish to attack again.

it's called Savagery

>it's risk reward design
yeah that is what it's supposed to be but doesn't work especially on nightmare
>cant mod d44m
Wouldn't save it anyway, the game's fundamental systems are so bad, if they were solid even snapmap would have been a success

holy nigger, eternal looks great on PC
youtu.be/HC1u_6YiQNk
directional dashing, grappling hook on my super shotgun, limb damage on enemies
I N V A S I O N S
wall climbing
integrated flamethrower and grenades
I can't fucking wait

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>basic stuff is still godawful
>but check out these epic gimmicks!

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>gook
>Has shit taste
Hmm

I recently finished an Ultra-Violence playthrough where I had the glory kill flashing effect turned off, and I only really ever used glory kills when I was critically low on HP.
It's a lot easier to ignore without the stupid blue and orange flashing.

Yes.
And you need to use them if you want to stay alive on Nightmare

I bet you think that shit-toothed slant eye is sexually appealing too, you pathetic fuck. lmao.

Fucking weebs.

>no valid argument

fpbp

fpwp

They also ruined the HUD and turned the game into a shitty platformer.

I like the grapple chain as an idea, but I really hate the execution.
It's just like a straight rod that shoots out and propels you linearly instead of a parabola like you'd expect. It's just super jarring, like some hacked together gmod gimmick.

I fucking hate doom and all the zoomers that like it.

>His ingame model face
Give up retard

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Good for you.

imagine being butt hurt over a single optional mechanic in an astounding game that for most fps players was game of the year.
Then imagine trying to justify your contempt with balance in an already too easy game.
>GIT GUD

God I cant wait for all of the retarded boomers to die of old age so we can finally have comfy Doom threads again

shut up zoomie

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Soo who wins?

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I told you its rpgcodex trannies that make these threads.

>Implying it wasn't always ||doomed to fail||

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Play doom 2.

youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrQnnXQh0V2e53QZ4yRpsjA8ebLYm89Ps

youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrQnnXQh0V2eshr-DZI7QtGq_EHNG-Vx-

nu-doom is fucking garbage.

Moom's got 2 super shotguns so my money is on him

I don't mind them except they make exploration and secrets less valuable because you don't need to find them for ammo and health. Although upgrades are a pretty good replacement. I think the lack of mod support are a much bigger insult.

Meme gobbler

>just turn off the glow
>just don't use it
>just shoot them again
Fuck off. They still stumble instead of just dying. Having to double-tap every other demon because of a retarded press X to awesome mechanic ruins the flow of combat. It's objectively shit.

oh user

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All the comfy doom threads are on /vr/ though.

just go play doom

Installed nuDoom, wanted to replay it. Glory kills at start and bullet sponges flashing, not wanting to die, not wanting to shoot me and move.
Uninstalled this shit.

2 years ago I thought it was good game.

>The amount of zoomers larping ITT.
Imagine shilling so hard against Eternal.
Is the new Micheal?

Yes he is.
He's not the guy who betrayed the knights retard.