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ITT: buyer's remorse
Colton Wright
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Jayden James
Did you got your ass handed by false knight?
Juan Young
t. zoomer with poor directional skills
Levi Collins
Gaming laptop. Never again
Evan Phillips
Posting actually bad games instead
Robert Bennett
It was only $4, but I was still disappointed I didn't like it,
Gabriel Cook
What was I thinking?
Noah Howard
It was given to me as a gift and I still feel buyer's remorse.
Has there ever been a more overrated """"game"""" shilled in Yea Forums than this one?
John Reyes
>lets change the game up
>okay, how about instead of blowing shit up to complete towns, we slap rings everywhere for the player to go through
>good idea!
No, fuck rings. Who the hell thought that was a good idea. Fuck you sonic.
Jose Powell
Is the remorse due to you being a huge faggot?
Isaac Parker
>Has there ever been a more overrated """"game"""" shilled in Yea Forums than this one?
Absolutely
Jordan Miller
For me it’s cadence of hyrule.
Henry Allen
""""""""game""""""""
Dylan Wilson
is false knight actually the filter? i keep seeing people say this
Connor Rogers
steamcommunity.com
1/3 of people quit before beating him.
Only 1/3 are left by the final few bosses/dreamers.
Only 16% beat the final boss.
Kayden Fisher
I find it good even though I pirated it, I'm planning to buy the next release.
Jacob Young
Same but years earlier
Hunter Evans
i'd say Hornet is the actual filter, but apparently people can't get past that guy
Carson Sanders
Yep. Bought it. Played for like 2 hours. Game is way to boring. Everything looks the same, one color everywhere.
Game tries way too hard to be 2d dark souls with that music, death mechanic and npc shit.
Just complete garbage.
Noah Rogers
>itt hard games I got my ass handed to me in
Fixed, no need to thank me, zoom-zooms
Daniel Howard
You never made it to greenpath, did you?
Julian Parker
The artstyle in HK made me completely uninterested to even try pirating it.
Even this art looks like shit.
Jack Bell
Holy shit, it was actually a pretty comfy survival game. Shit devs dumped it. Early access never again.
Juan Smith
Only 56% of people beat Hornet. It's hard to say how many people actually had trouble beating the first boss compared to how many simply lost interest.
It's likely that only roughly 20% of people are filtered out by those bosses because only 71% even got a single charm.
Jackson Perez
How? That nigga is easy as hell once you figure out how game actually works and his moves work
Kayden Ward
Why would i waste my time any longer with the game that refuses to make a good first impression?
There are a lot of good games to play.
Tyler Reyes
I feel like a lot of people actually just got bored walking around and quit. It's why the genre remains niche.
Levi Powell
My main issue was the performance, fuck unity. I checked my temps and it was like I was playing battlefield on ultra. Ori runs and looks a lot better imho, or just play sotn again
Daniel Garcia
Elijah Reed
>He couldn't get out of crossroads in 2 hours
Blake Smith
You know what they say about Hollow Knight community.
It's just toxic. I tried it, but you know. I didn't feel welcome.
FLUSHED
Connor Miller
I like to take things slow. Sorry i played your children toy wrong.
Logan Walker
>more people beat soul master than mantis lords
Jacob Perez
>or just play sotn again
Yeah, this. At least sotn looks better and has a banging soundtrack.
Jose Hill
Animal Crossing New Leaf. Not because the game is bad or anything. But I just feel incredible anguish every time I don't play it and I think about how lonely and sad my villagers are without me
Dylan Barnes
this piece of garbage right here, I just wanted to kill Nazi scum not listen to a bunch of social commentary and shitty forced propaganda, at least youngblood will have co-op..
Carter Kelly
the games dark but i wouldn't say it's one color
Thomas Stewart
Bro it takes only like 1 hour to get to greenpath or fungal wastes (colorful areas, green&orange respectively)
Blake Moore
Is that the greenpath other user told me about?
Is this what passes fior colorful location these days? It's just like the first one but with a little green in it.
Nathaniel Barnes
Probably.
Levi Moore
Grayson Harris
>I like to take things slow
>why isnt this game entertaining me why is it taking so long to do anything this shit is boring
Mason Taylor
Trying way too hard to hate on the game to hide your embarrassing skills.
Adam Moore
why why do you give such low effort bait the time of day? it ruins the board
Carter Powell
Andrew Cook
fuck everyone who shills this crap
Logan Clark
I dunno what to tell you.
It looks boring compared to SoTN.
You start the game and right of the bat the first location looks great, the wolves start wohling and explode and this shit plays
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Nathaniel Foster
Ignored it for a year because it looked generic and boring. Bought it on sale when I was bored because it kept being recommended to me. Found the start pretty boring until I beat hornet and got the dash, didn't drop the game since, now I have 140 hours in it and I'm laughing at all the retards seething and shitposting here every day because you can't get past hornet. Can't wait for silksong.
Evan Butler
>Only 16% beat the final boss
I'm casual as fuck and I did everything besides the pantheons. Are people really this bad?
Jeremiah Powell
It really feels like a coordinated group of autists trying to shit on the game for whatever reason.
I have no idea how anyone could hate HK. Its in my top 3 favorite games, and it costs 15 fucking dollars when one playthrough is like 40+ hours of content including DLC
Why be so mad over a game you spent 15 dollars on?
Adam Robinson
It's amazing how they managed to fuck that series up. All they had to do was expand on the core concept - destruction. Have even a basic destruction model like Mercenaries had. But no, we're gonna gonna put game progression behind a barrier of boring, lazily put together "challenges", and other than that just have the exact same game
Christian James
These are typical for games, for any given game only about 20% of people finish it according to achievement stats.
I really have no idea why
Jacob Campbell
NO.... NO!... NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
BROS WHAT THE FUCK???
HOW COULD WE LOST AGAINST BLOODSTAINED????????
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!?! WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE IN CHARGE HERE!!!!!
Jordan Gutierrez
>25 hours into the game at the end
>finally get bored of it so dropped it
It was a good $7.50 that i spent.
Jaxon Sanchez
What's with the sudden surge of shitposting Hollow Knight?
Jace Robinson
Nah, they just lost interest.
23% of people beat dark souls 3 and it's harder than hollow knight.
Colton Scott
>I didn't feel welcome
It's a fucking videogame. What exactly did you want out of it?
Wyatt Perez
>its in my top 3 favorite games
you don't play a lot of games, do you?
Jason Martin
DOOM.
Liam Collins
Dunno guess I just wanted to post screenshots.
Jordan Jackson
I used a giftcard on it, so at least I didn't feel like I wasted my own money, but I kind of wish I had spent it on something else.
I got through some of City of Tears, but I don't know how much. I believe I did everything else up to that point barring Mantis Lords.
Jackson Nelson
The true final boss of HK also requires a bunch of obscure secrets to unlock so there are probably people who beat the Hollow Knight and assumed he was the last boss and never came back to the game.
Xavier Miller
Hollow Knight is the first game in a long time that I pirated, got several hours into, then promptly uninstalled so I could buy it and start over.
Pic related wasn't bad at all, but for some reason it caused my fear of heights to flare up something fierce, so I could never actually finish it.
Alexander Perez
I am not much of a hardcore gamer anymore (though I used to be) and I found the game pretty manageable. I have all of the achievements except the final pantheon cause I don't want to invest literal hours into just fighting bosses.
But it is a solid game with many challenges to it.
Jace Diaz
Metroidvania threads have always been riddled by shitposting autists even though most fans of the genre play what they can get since its not a genre with a whole fuckton of games to pick from.
Posts like these make me think that, anyone whos played Hollow Knight would probably also love Bloodstained, only a retard would try to create some sort of feud between the two games/fanbases.
Christopher Campbell
Yea Forums
Logan Lopez
These are the people that post here on a daily basis
Jayden Rivera
WHY DON'T you guys play Salt & Sanctuary?
Easton Cox
Nah i just really like the genre, the 2 games above it are Metroid Prime and Bloodstained.
HK would probably be boring to someone who doesnt like exploration/atmospheric games, but if you dont like those then youre a faggot.
Eli Price
Most shitposts you see on Yea Forums is literally just one or two autists doing it all day because that's just how lonely they are and it's easy. Using anonymity to make yourself appear numerous is very easy. Same reason there's always 4 smash threads up, literally just one person can post all 4 and post their opinion in all of them very easily.
Juan Roberts
desu i wasn't keen on it. I liked the environments but the sprites put me off.
Christopher Kelly
Im pretty sure its a coordinated shitposting attack by some Discord of metroidvania players, when HK came out it was shitposted here to the point of being completely impossible to discuss. Bloodstained's release brought the faggots back I presume.
Nolan Rogers
Speaking of, what other metroidvania games are really good?
I've never played any of the Castlevanias but I played all of the Metroids.
Cooper Baker
I did tho, it was okay
Jayden Williams
at least was 50% off
Tyler Barnes
Somebody shoot this guy
Michael Lewis
I really wanted to like this game. I'm a massive norseaboo, the artstyle was comfy, and I like difficult action-adventures. The combat was limited to a standard and heavy attack that controlled worse than the original Zelda, the levels had beautiful designs but were mostly just one-gimick-per-stage, and the bosses were a mess. They're massive, but all the environmental damage/summons they can use make me lose track of my character. I feel ashamed to say this, but the game felt unfair, not difficult. Don't even get me started on the story.
Kevin Wilson
>S&S
oof
Justin Taylor
My three biggest regrets over the last few years. I have legitimately tried to love these games too, and I just can't get into them. I love all the original God of Wars, I never played the other Witcher games but loved the grim dark fantasy and I LOVE Dark Souls. It's not because I read a post on Yea Forums to tell me what I should think/feel about them, anyone else in this boat?
Gavin Kelly
>I've never played any of the Castlevanias
Aria of Sorrow and SoTN.
Jayden Nelson
Bloodstained just came out and is really good, it would be a good Igavania to start if you've never played one, you can get into the older ones (SOTN + all the DS Castlefvanias) after if you end up liking it.
Other than older games there isn't really that much good other than very short steam games. My favorites of this category are probably Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight, and Touhou Luna Nights.
Angel Barnes
>I love all the original God of Wars
why
Luis Walker
The true filter is Nightmare King Grimm
Anthony Turner
I feel like I was the only person who didn't like this game but it just felt not very good. The gameplay balancing was absolutely whack, normal was a joke and hard mode was just a sequence of getting one-shotted constantly. RPG mechanics felt shoehorned in, game generally felt like a mess other than the story, which was good but not amazingly good enough to warrant Automata's praise IMO.
John James
I like hack and slash game play. I loved Devil May Cry and it played like that but with greek mythology, what's not to love? It was the game play more than the story, which I guess is the exact opposite of the new God of War, story trumped gameplay.
Tyler Nguyen
I don't know who or what is Hornet, I barely pay attention to no-story games, I just got the dash and still think this shit is boring af.
Cameron Wilson
What's your problem with Sekiro?
Colton Rivera
I'd be more inclined to play HK again if the fan base were capable of comprehending a single criticism
Carson Bell
Whatever game you like.
Thomas Gutierrez
>barely pay attention
>no-story game
this is why you don't like it, your ADHD ass cannot handle it. If you don't like environmental storytelling and want an action game go play something else.
Jackson Fisher
I was unironically excited for this game, to the point where I preordered it, but haven't even touched the game since its release date. The game is so fucking slow.
Samuel Powell
>tfw finally beat pure vessel on radiant
Ian Wood
what does fans have to do with a single-player game?
Jacob Baker
Weak bait or can't tell the difference between art and design.
Tyler Jenkins
Agreed.
But you know what the say about Hollow Knight players.
David Parker
My only issue with HK is that you move too slow at first.
Parker Smith
I never made past level 16
Gavin Scott
I wanted it to be more like Dark Souls, I assumed it would be like Nioh without all the silly magic and odd design choices, instead I got Tenchu for the PS4, just wasn't what I was expecting.
Nicholas Taylor
Why are you letting strangers on the internet affect your enjoyment of a product you play by yourself? Are you a fag?
Kevin Walker
>tfw bought overwatch at full price years ago
>only played for 3 hours
What the fuck was I thinking.
Jordan White
In charge of what? It is possible for two games to be in one genre
Speaking of which, how's Bloodstained?
Connor Brooks
never trust games shilled by Yea Forums
Isaac Perez
>go play something else
Not that user, but that is what i did. And then i came to Yea Forums and people told me that i was wrong for not liking this game.
Xavier Robinson
Not the person you're responding to but, I legit liked it. It has some areas that needed more polish but it's exactly what I hoped it would be and then some.
Grayson Cruz
I really love bloodstained
Ryder Perez
Sounds cool, how different is it compared to HK, as its the only metroidvania I played as I'am a poor plebian
Chase Kelly
why are you listening to faggots on Yea Forums? Only you know what your tastes are, if environmental storytelling and slow exporation doesn't sound like something you'd enjoy, why play the game?
Mason Reed
Mist of Pandaria, Draino, Legion
Christopher Richardson
I feel like Hollow Knight had a much clear vision and stuck to it's guns without compromise. It literally wanted to take the risk v. reward elements of Dark Souls and combine it with progression and level design of SoTN. Bloodstain succeeds at being SoTN with a different coat of paint. The best way to describe it is imagine if Castlevania never existed, and in it's place was the Bloodstained franchise and in this alternate reality SoTN WAS a Bloodstained game and we basically just got an HD remake of it, that's basically RoTN. Ask me anything about the game.
Leo Moore
This, ugly game. Couldn't stand that almost monochromatic super-simplified flash game look. Putrid to look upon.
Xavier Sullivan
A lot of people get to Mantis lords, die, get the message "Get stronger and come back", then beat other shit and come back just to faceroll them.
Luis Clark
Nightmare Grim is the filter
Brandon Diaz
Mantis Lords are actually optional, my first playthrough they were the last boss I fought other than Radiance simply because I never went through their area.
Landon Kelly
Persona
Lincoln Diaz
Hollow Knight is more a take on a lot of different classic metroidvanias, while Bloodstained is a combination of Symphony of the Night, Dawn of Sorrow, Aria of Sorrow and Order of Ecclesia, bringing in most elements from all the games.
So they are fairly different I would say, where Hollow Knight has a very specific objective and straight forward gameplay, Bloodstained provides tons of customisations, build variety, weapons etc. for you to play it as you please. I know HK has the charms, but it's nowhere near the level of Bloodstained's options.
The visuals are okay, though the cutscenes are absolute garbage.
If you prefer the Hollow Knight style, Curse of the Moon might be of more interest to you I'd say, even if it is short, it does provide replay value however.
Ayden Butler
This
Zachary Ward
I got these for "free" with xbox game pass. Just finished the first one and quite enjoyed it. Then again I watched my brother play these 20 years ago so there's the nostalgia factor.
Those QTEs are not ok, though.
Thomas Moore
This so much. For some reason this game makes my head hurt every time I try to play it for more than half an hour, and when it doesn't it makes me really depressed with it's storyline.
The worst part is that now I can't even resell it for a good prize because even sealed it's pretty cheap these days, same with Persona 5.
Nolan Brown
Luke Fisher
played the whole game and went "that was it?" then found out it had like 5 DLC addons that completed the story
at least it was free for me
Nathan Carter
>how's Bloodstained?
Started pretty fucking amazing for the first third of the game, then it drops in quality. 7.5/10
Parker Williams
>Online Multiplayer FPS
Buy games without expiration day next time.
Eli Powell
This but i paid $15
James Davis
I bought Pokemon Sun at release date at full price but dropped it after the first 15 minutes of pure cutscenes.
Samuel Watson
I agree, it's really repetitive and the terrain is not diverse at all.
Ian Baker
16% is high especially for an indie. People are shitters. That's all
Jonathan Wilson
I want to play Hollow Knight because I see everyone saying it's amazing but I just can't digest the artstyle, feels too indie and like the developers were very lazy to design actual good characters and world.
Brandon Flores
>literally just communist/ancom propaganda
Chase Flores
I only did one playthrough, but I just don't get the appeal. I found both this and hollow knight pretty tedious
Andrew Myers
Hollow knight is a game based around learning your enemies and quickly adapting to them. The first minute of your boss fight should literally be dodging everything until you understand the boss.
Yes it's tedious because the game is all about adaptation. It's essentially check mating the boss.
Joseph Barnes
I didn't get buyer's remorse but I didn't enjoy it as much as his other stuff. I think it was the characters not being as interesting.
Levi Sanchez
The art style’s not particularly noteworthy, but it grew on me. It does it’s job.
Matthew Clark
HZD, Persona 5 and Gravity Rush 2. 2017 was generally a terrible year for PS4 yet people pretend it's good.
Isaiah Allen
traversing hollownest is the tedious part not the boss fights.
Samuel Parker
i didnt know anyone else even knew about this. same here, user.
Charles Scott
I didn't see it. I thought the Nightmare Grimm and Pure Vessel fights were really the only tedious parts of the game, but then again, I also refuse to do the final pantheon.
Parker Foster
boring ass shite
Caleb Ross
I didn't know about breakable walls until very late in the game and it made it a pain in the ass tracking down the shit I missed.
Levi Edwards
Regice Furret
Carter Murphy
>Yakuza 0
>Ys 8
Nah it was a great year.
Jose Sanchez
Never “played” it, what moment show its?
Logan Morales
It's not even that difficult. I had way more difficulty playing Super Mario Galaxy 2 than Hollow Knight.
Alexander Hall
I bought this game for 40 USD and have tried getting into it twice but can never make it past the first 2 hours. that is some god tier artwork though
Oliver Williams
Lincoln Roberts
>assuming there are no breakable walls in a meteoidvania
Do brainlets really do this?
Joshua Martin
You can easily just search "Hollow Knight zones" and you'll see that the game features a lot of variety in both color and aesthetics.
But you do you, man. Keep hating on a game just because you're too much of a noob to even get past the first fucking zone.
Go back to playing Kirby's Epic Yarn lmao.
Landon Fisher
>one of the easiest bosses
>a filter
Dumb fucking pleb. It's more likely that people never got to her because they stopped playing the game because it was too boring or there were better games to play. Every thread you people prove the hk fanbase to be among the most stupid and brainwashed.
Elijah Cooper
John Rivera
I had more fun playing both Bloodstained games than Hollow Knight.
Jackson Martinez
Switch.
Have you played BOTW and Odyssey? Well, get ready for one game per year.
Carson Perez
>noob
You got me. Sorry i'm not an epic gamer like yourself.
Blake Phillips
>plays Metroidvania
>complains about exploration
???
David Green
>plays Metroidvania with tedious locations
>complains about exploration
fixed that for you
Cameron Gomez
Elijah Stewart
NONONONO BROS SEE!???????
PEOPLE HAVE BEGUN TO SAY BLOODSTAINED IS BETTER
its over bros.... we lost this one..... we were too cocky....
William Smith
I tried playing it but it wasnt very fun. Seemed like something carried completely by its visuals.
Eli Anderson
>how's Bloodstained?
Quite bad. Needs work but japs can't into 3d so it's hopeless.
Owen Hughes
Rabi ribi
Jason Ward
Oh look it's another Yea Forums posts 10/10 games and says they're bad thread..
Jackson Ward
What did you dislike about Witch3r?
Alexander Richardson
at the very least you can see the cracks. the ones i hated were ones that showed a wall there but there wasn't a wall
Isaac Torres
False knight? I thought it would've been the mantis lords for sure.
Thomas Jackson
Fucking Cornifer is an unironic filter.
The amount of absolute brainlet ass destruction that he causes is truly staggering.
Gabriel Brooks
Holy fuck, how has Yea Forums's taste gotten so bad over the years? This thread is shameful
Henry Ortiz
>tedious locations
If you want to say the game's setting isn't interesting that's another thing, but the locations aren't interesting, I mean, you're really traversing an underground cave not some tropical island...
Ryan Stewart
>dude like...if you become a robot....it's not really you!
This game fucking sucked. Best parts were the sea horror bits, not some cringey sophomore trite.
Lucas Powell
Yea Forums: Where people play metroidvania games for the graphics and the story.
Levi Russell
Hollow Knight is genuine kino.
Josiah Cox
>Why doesnt Yea Forums like my 192102910th generic metroidvania
Its a played out genre and the game isnt that good.
Grayson Gray
The thing is, Hollow Knight's graphics and story are both phenomenal too. The game really does have everything.
Jason Carter
Last game in the past 10 years I returned. It was soiling my switch library by being next to my good games.
It felt like a unfinished kickstarter game
Samuel Cooper
I consider myself bad at these games, like Dark Souls and Sekiro and whatnot; I can't beat them because I have bad reaction time. But holy shit these people must be bad then or ok better than I thought cause Mantis Lord's were easy. The hardest boss for me so far was the Soul Master. I've beaten most bosses and I'm on my way to fight the Dreamers
Evan Gonzalez
Post your top 5 games, kid
Hudson Baker
>It felt like a unfinished kickstarter game
it was
Aiden Perry
>boring action RPG with great concept art
Ethan Cooper
One dominant color at a time, each area has a muted almost monochromatic look without a lot of contrast. You already knew what he meant but you were just being disingenuous.
Jeremiah Taylor
I beat poh, nigger, i'm just saying most people quit out of boredom not because Hornet was too hard. Was hk the first game you ever played that she really gave you that much trouble? It's like i'm talking to a bunch of npcs, y'all are so predictable.
Josiah Perry
I think it's one dude. His posts always look the same and he was sperging out about hollow knight in another unrelated thread a couple days ago.
There are just too many autists on steroids these days I guess.
Henry Phillips
Git gud
Xavier Gomez
Cope
Thomas Moore
The fuck are you on about?
Isaac Campbell
Fuck me when he does that ground stab TWICE
Asher Thompson
>the only reason someone could possibly dislike this game is cuz they're bad
I fucking hate HK/Souls fags. 8/10 game with lots of content and longevity for those who enjoy it but I can't stand the kids who jerk off over being able to beat le hard gaem
Nolan Long
Would you praise a fucking kart game for the storytelling? Who gives a fuck if the gameplay is dull?
Owen Adams
and kids like how lol so randum and wacky it was so never a need to fix and polish it
James Barnes
>person likes game i like
>"millions love this game!"
>person dislikes game i like
>"errr i think it's just one person h-haha yeah..."
Die
Alexander Carter
That's Yea Forums's general way to argue points to feel good about themselves. It's like calling you a bad eater for disliking pineapple on pizza.
Oliver Nguyen
People dont do intensive research into a game before buying it? I mean thats your money, why not understand what the game plays like and looks like before making a purchase? Ive never had buyers remorse because I pretty know everything about the game before the purchase. I cant get upset if it wasnt what I expected if I ignored learning about it before hand.
Luke Green
It was nightmare Grimm wasn't it. They are support groups for that.
Cameron Parker
I actually played it for like 80 hours hoping it would become good at some point. At the boat dungeon I was so fucking done with it I just had to drop it. What an absolute piece of garbage. Japaniggers and weebs are truly subhuman.
Jordan Price
>Hollow Knight's graphics and story are both phenomenal
Graphics are good. Story is pretty weak though why do you actually think it's good when it's one of the worst parts?
Tyler Williams
Game was good tho
Solid shooter
Noah Hernandez
It's one person posting in the exact same way in regards to hollow knight yes. If you're not him then you have no reason to be this assblasted.
Maybe make your bait a little less samey next time?
Benjamin Thomas
>Post popular game
>Hehe i hate it guys :)
>Dozens of replies
This site is fucking awful
Zachary Price
Mk11 &:SC6
Sebastian Phillips
Awwww did somebody die to grub mother? It's okay, baby incel, there are guides to help you!
Git gud
Chase Ortiz
What's the story you gathered?
Wyatt Torres
They were mind blowing on a technical level if you played them circa 1999-2001. I think if you wanted to appreciate them you'd have to try to marathon a ton of cinematic PS1-era games like Metal Gear Solid and Vagrant Story to feel how much a leap this game was in terms of cinematic presentation.
Nowadays playing them loses that entire facet since this shit isn't special anymore so you're left with a really jank game with an underwhelming cinematic experience that isn't even very good.
Kevin Cook
Hollow knight isnt hard faggot, ill shit on whoever dropped it before even starting the actual game because it shows how retarded they are
Angel Ortiz
>n-n-n-no!!!!
>it's bait!!!
Ay get fucked incel.
Chase Wright
>le percent = hard
Most people don't drop games because they're too hard. Sometimes you just get bored and put it on the shelf and forget about it. I almost never finish games anymore, and it sure isn't because they're too hard. If you put a game down for a while it's hard to get back into it. You're not some pro-gamer because you beat hollowknight.
Logan Allen
I hated Dying Light the parkour is cool but everything else was just garbage.
Andrew Murphy
When the majority of complaints stem from shit that indicates they never left the first area, then yeah they're probably bad.
Joshua Thompson
I guess I'm just smarter than you. No big deal, just go back to whatever it is you do.
Jack Stewart
See this is exactly what I'm fucking talking about. I beat the game when it originally came out and liked it well enough but never had much desire to return to it even when the DLCs came out. Beating a hard boss won't magically uplift the game to a 10/10 if I don't enjoy traversing the levels and fighting the mooks in between bosses.
Lincoln Kelly
You should see the trash board. Turbo supercharged autistics
Caleb Adams
The filter can't be in optional DLC you mongs
Charles Cooper
all final fantasy games
Jack Nelson
The real filter is the trail of fools.
Ethan Richardson
>played demo
>wow,if the demo/beta is like this, the full game will be goty
>pay 70$ bucks
>play the game
>mfw when I realize that the demo was the full game
The worst part is that I'm a oldfag with a ironman complex, so they hit me good back then
Owen Roberts
King nigger uplifts bugs and makes city, Radiance gets pissed and gives everyone aids. King tries to contain it by having a billion kids until he gets one that's retarded and stunted enough to not dream and thus get aids. Kid gets starts thinking and subsequently gets aids. King an heros, place gets fucked, and you come in to save the day. Wow. The whole story in a few sentences, so phenomenal. What really bugged me was how boring the npc questlines were, most of them end with a whimper and without any real reward. Story isn't shit, but it's objectively the weakest part. Point made.
Noah Gomez
I sometimes buy a game blindly because I like to discover stuff and have everything be new.
But my taste is varied and it’s very rare I have buyers remorse since I can find something to enjoy in most games
Asher Rodriguez
Have sex and dialate also stop seething then many you wouldn't cope so much yikes sweety. Oof
Connor Clark
Forgot to point out the part that makes the story bad. Point not really made.
No, poorly describing something does not discredit it, common Yea Forums misconception.
Try again.
Kevin Campbell
I'd filter her milk straight into my mouth if you catch what I'm saying
Eli Adams
How do I into Hollow Knight's story? Is it actually compelling and well written or do people just overpraise it because it's not spoonfed and putting the pieces together makes them feel smart?
Adrian Johnson
Decent bait. 4/10.
Elijah Bennett
I wanted to give this genre a shot and HK is apparently the best of the best.
John Ortiz
Git gud
Joshua White
gonna get crucified by fat weebs over dmc being on here, but whatever.
Matthew Bailey
That new Call of Cthulu game. Super bad and unfinished.
Jack Williams
the vocab use is great
the story isnt all that interesting and it's clear they took many cues from dark souls
HOWEVER
the gameplay is challenging and the exploration is rewarding (to me) so i think it's good
im also not playing it for the story
Grayson Rivera
>weebs
Learn what that word means newtrash. Also DMC3's pc port is trash and definitely belongs there.
Isaac Cox
Snoygoi desu ne
Angel Morales
It's not exactly deep, but it's well worded, and there's a brilliantly done part if you go for the pre DLC true ending.
Chase Murphy
OP already posted my latest buyer's remorse. I'm sure Hollow Knight is a fun game to most, but i'm not getting the rewarding feeling like I did with Cuphead and the new Shantae.
Daniel Anderson
>steamcucks achievements
Who cares about a bunch of retard using a drm station and buying hundred of games they'll never ever play more than 10 minutes?
Adam Peterson
I never said it was bad, just the weakest part, reread the post again, you filthy American.
Why do you think the story is so good? I'm not expecting a serious reply, but feel free to stand out. Or remain eternally pwnt.
Luis Morris
How to spot a newfag baiter
Jordan Nguyen
The gameplay isn't dull you absolute shitter
Noah Johnson
Thank God for refunds. I'm not paying actual money for a stupid flash game
Austin Young
This is the only time in recent memory I've ever bought a game and regretted spending money on it.
I fell hard for the Yea Forums shilling, and it took about 9 hours of gameplay for me to get past all the shitty tutorial areas. It took me 2 hours of gameplay to even get the game working properly, which already put me out of the steam refund window.
The game is just a broken mess and I honestly don't see how anyone enjoys it. "realistic" mechanics seem to be in the game just to add a ton of tedium to it, the story is lame, and all of the quests are just redundantly boring and awful. The only good part of the game is the combat, but if I want a fun medieval combat game I'll go play Mordhau.
I really think it's not a good game and it was just shilled by /pol/ crossboarding retards on here because the dev was "based and redpilled" on twitter.
Carson Wright
The game has absolutely stellar atmosphere and drip feeds the story to you in a really engaging way. Exploring the fallen kingdom and piecing together what happened is super interesting.
Jacob Howard
Bro... Binding of Isaac is godtier imo and in my top ten. What didn't you like about it?
DMC a shit tho
Benjamin Young
Most of the fun I had with this game was making a Seras Victoria mod, was fun. So easy to mod.
Christian Sanders
I don't can you please explain?
Wyatt Barnes
>do people just overpraise it because it's not spoonfed and putting the pieces together makes them feel smart?
It's partly this mixed with bits of lore being hard to get to so it makes it seem good because they worked for it. Play it for the combat and atmosphere, everything else has been done better before.
Xavier Wright
What part are you referring to? Climbing out of the abyss?
Parker Martinez
Xenoblade 2 and Raiden V.
Hunter Cox
It's good because it's mysterious, interesting and keeps the player moving forward just to find out what the deal is with everything. The way it's presented is especially well done, the player really has to dig deep and search every nook and cranny for clues, the dream nail letting you look into NPCs minds is completely non essential but I was still intrigued enough to do it over and over to everyone.
Gavin Anderson
>not a little ghost now huh git gud bitch
Carson Diaz
>do people just overpraise it because it's not spoonfed and putting the pieces together makes them feel smart?
That isn't overpraising it tho. Telling a story like Hollow Knight and Dark Souls does is a really effective method of storytelling
Jonathan Foster
I thought I was smart but it turns out I'm dumb
Not the game's fault
Sebastian Howard
Climbing out of the abyss was too short a scene to have any impact.
Juan Cruz
Bruh, I've been stuck at the trial of the fool and I have no idea if it even advances the game.
Jordan Ross
Its not taste, this happens to literally any game on here. Im convinced most games have discords of nuclear autists on steroids decicated to shitposting them into nondiscussion for whatever retarded reason.
Ayden Reed
It's optional, but you need to do it to access the final DLC area and get the true true ending
Anthony Green
The one where you become god of god's and fuck shot up and obtain mind
Samuel Wright
Zote in the Pantheon of the Sage is fucking impossible
Chase Cooper
That's the DLC ending tho
Shit taste tbhwyf
Lincoln Parker
It's true. Why Hollow Knight of all things now tho? The game is like 2 years old.
Xavier Bennett
I mean, Pokemon games aren't exactly known for their riveting gameplay.
Isaiah Turner
>This game is BULLSHIT
>I shouldn't have to BUY a fucking MAP
>The map should fill itself out AUTOMATICALLY AS I PLAY
>I shouldn't have to sit at a fucking BENCH for the map to update
>This is fucking RETARDED
>How am I supposed to navigate without an instantly-updating fully-automatic map available at ALL TIMES?
>Look at the environment? What the fuck are you talking about?
>There should be a MINIMAP always on-screen
>How the FUCK are you meant to play the game if you have to hold a button to look at the map
>You can't even fucking run with the map out
>I came here to PLAY A GAME not to have to actually fucking remember the layout of the areas
>When I enter a new area the game is UNPLAYABLE because I don't have the map yet
>The map guy should meet you at the ENTRANCE of each area
>I paid for a fucking ACTION GAME not fucking hide-and-seek with the map guy
Luke Perry
>need to play through the shitty story in order to rank up
Jayden Moore
Remorse over the game or the vita?
Blake Jones
Its getting more steam because of Bloodstained and the sequel trailer at E3
Ryder Reyes
All of you shitters have absolutely awful taste
Lincoln Jones
I agree with several of those.
Connor Lopez
Makes sense. Seeing the Silksong demo on the Treehouse made me buy and play the HK.
Levi Miller
DMC3: SE is actually the single worst PC port I have ever had the misfortune of playing, so I have no qualms with that.
Grayson Nelson
Charles Fisher
this is why we need to eliminate the zoomers
Parker Sullivan
You too holy fuck
David Wright
But the story itself is pretty boring and weak. It's also very easy to figure out what's going on, and you can do it early on too. There's too many stories that end abruptly or have an enormous loose end that's anyone's guess if it's dlc-bait, the devs forgot about it, or if that's really it. The story is suppossed to be your motivation in a game. When you can guess too easily who dunnit or the endings to stories are generally unsatisfying, it kills the motivation to play. Is the overall story bad? There are worse. Is it super good? Nowhere near it. It really shows that the devs just made shit up as they went along, without any real interest in world-building. But that's okay, because mostly everything else in the game was fine.
Levi Howard
Why is Watcher Knight such bullshit?
Charles Hall
I hate HK, not because I actually hate the game itself but because half of Yea Forums sucks it off like it's the next coming of vidya Christ and if you say ANYTHING bad about it at all, no matter how valid, you get accused of being a shitter, shill, discord tranny, or what have you.
Personally I played to just after I beat the hornet girl and got bored. I never picked it up again and the game was so unremarkable that I'd legitimately forget it existed if it wasn't for you autists screeching at eachother here constantly.
tl;dr fuck off faggots
Colton Butler
Tyler Morales
I dare one of you to defend this game.
Noah Myers
Great presentation can turn a regular story into a fantastic experience, and Hollow Knight is a perfect example of that.
Mason Wood
Pic not related, I paid £3 for it and it's been good fun, surprised just how much I got out of it
Mason Adams
Brandon Carter
>
>Metroidvania threads have always been riddled by shitposting autists even though most fans of the genre play what they can get since its not a genre with a whole fuckton of games to pick from.
user,now there are lots of indievanias . Times had changed...
Leo Jenkins
What the fuck how could anyone actually dislike nu-hitman? It's legitimately the perfect assassination sandbox game.
Jordan Sanders
>See frog
Not even gonna read that
David Bailey
What story is there in hollow knight?
There are bugs in a town and it's abandoned but they're coming back? You get nothing, dark souls has a full feature length cutscene
Carter Green
>graphically impressive
>completely fucking boring
>literally shilled to fucking death
how does rockstar do it boys? older gta's win me over with their charm but they have the same problems. completely fucking boring to play and i've honestly fallen asleep playing this game several times
Carson Bennett
Based
Brayden Sullivan
Response to bloodstained
Juan Brown
>What story is there in hollow knight?
Literally just play the game lmao, idk what to say.
Kevin Stewart
Please give BoI another try, please.
Henry Gray
as someone who 106% the game, every area looks pretty similar. the only ones I really remember looking different are the caverns and the garden
Henry Ross
I got past False Knight and Hornet in one sitting and no deaths after getting the game for like 5 bucks on the switch sale.
False Knight is just jump attacking non stop and Hornet is just standing still and smacking her in the face when she stops in front of you.
The real filter is navigating the map.
Ian Martin
This is objectively untrue. Play it again
Charles Reyes
Don't know how I got tricked into buying this boring, janky ass piece of shit. Biggest buyer's remorse I've had in a long time.
Jayden Ross
Yeah I really don't know how people found Hornet so hard. Nosk is the real killer in the early game
Samuel Cox
the game
Oliver Gonzalez
Played 5 hours of the game, every area looked samey and the pacing sucked ass, it's not a fun game to play.
Lincoln Garcia
my main gripe with hollow knight is how it doesn't do anything new or interesting. it gets boring quickly
Camden Wood
This. I goddamn hate navigating the map more than anything, fuck the shitty charm system.
Thomas Moore
Standing near the ledge and pogo over him. Keep moving on roof attack.
Isaiah Watson
5 hours is only 2 or 3 areas. That's just a fraction of all the ones in the game. The pacing is dictated by how you explore, idk what you even mean by saying the pacing is bad
Michael Collins
>when you were hyped for this for 4 years and it was shit
Life is simply unfair
Bentley Sullivan
Haha yeah I didn’t buy this on psn haha I have a rig too lol.
Colton Rivera
Nosk kicked my shit earlier and I'm at the endgame.
Landon Ortiz
Shitstained: Ritual of the Wipe
Caleb Williams
Grayson Watson
is it worth it to try to do the entire Hall of Gods? What's the reward?
John Cruz
haah
even the chick demoing silksong at E3 wasn't that inept.
get fucked 84% ya losers
Parker Bailey
See this is a case where experience clouds judgement. If you're a little kid and your parents put together a small fireworks on your driveway, you'll think it's the tits. If you went to a NY or similar show however, it would put your parents to shame.
Oddly enough I see many inexperienced or first-time gamers play HK because it has a bit of everything a game has. When they beat an easy boss, they think they've just conqured the world because it's the first challenge they've faced. If they played games for years though, they'd understand that accomplishment was nothing. When they piece together HK's story, they think it's the best story ever because it's the first one they've read. As they play more games, again, they'll see that HK's is more of a patchwork job than truly good. I've been playing vidya for 30 odd years now, I am experienced in this field and know the story isn't very good. HK is one of a few games you and many others have played, so you think it's amazing. If you keep playing vidya, you'll see the truth that I'm right. Let me know about it then, bud, would be nice to see what games you've gotten into(if i'm not dead by then lol).
Colton Martin
Actually based
Jace Ward
Imagine typing this out, holy shit
Gabriel Clark
Not really. The reward is a new ending and pride for beating it
Carson Rodriguez
thanks for confirming that HK fanboys are underaged
not the guy you replied to, btw
William James
How can a post so wholesome also be so based?
Christian Cook
Obviously it isn't one of the best stories out there, but it's really effective for a game where the story isn't the main focus. Even if taken on its own, it isn't all that special, the atmosphere and thrill of uncovering it yourself through exploring the world makes up for that, and as a result, it adds a lot to the game.
Carter Cox
>I've been playing vidya for 30 odd years
Whoa. To think you have never had sex... Amazing.
Carter Hill
Imagine playing games at 30+ and not even enjoying them, instead resorting to shitpost with underage kids
Jonathan Myers
Just saw that radiant bosses one shot you. This seems absolutely impossible
Luke Gutierrez
>Can't you guys see how much of a GAMER I am? I've played many GAMES, I know when a GAME is good because I'm such a big GAMER. I've played GAMES for 30 years, I am such a huge GAMER!
Oliver Martin
I usually hate the word pretentious since people almost exclusively use it incorrectly, but this is real fucking pretentious dude
Robert Lee
This fucking paragraph of you stroking your own ego is fueled solely by your own opinions and tall claims.
None of it is justified in any way. You asked for an explanation as to why people liked a game's story and you got one. Return to reality where you've yet to explain why you think it's so unlikely for a person to thoroughly enjoy hollow knight's story.
Seriously, this fucking hurts to read, I seriously hope this is some form of high effort bait and not a genuine belief of yours, that'd be sad, a literal delusion.
Ian Nguyen
Screencapped for efficacy and excess basedness
James Thompson
>I've been playing vidya for 30 odd years now, I am experienced in this field
Shit, my bad, didn't know I was dealing with a real gamer here
Thomas Perez
Please name 5 games that you consider to have good stories
Nathaniel Foster
I've never seen more dull, boring and soulless RPG than Dragons Dogma.
Bentley Reyes
Same, I had to force myself to complete the base game (Radiance) and lost the will to play the extra content and DLCs.
It just feels extremely boring.
Joseph Gomez
>Just saw that radiant bosses one shot you
What.
John Flores
Yeah you die in a single hit to Radiant bosses. I can't imagine possibly beating Nightmare King Grimm like that, he was hard enough before
Parker Mitchell
>Last of us
>GTA V
>Heavy Rain
>Halo 3
>Gears of war 3
Anthony Campbell
>FF13
>Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon
>Fire Emblem Awakening
>Fantasy Life
>Pokemon Omega Ruby
>FF15
>Kingdom Hearts 3
Ayden Adams
Flash Guard and Flash Move ruined Ys.
Liam Jones
>Heavy Rain
I know this is bait but holy fuck
Josiah Smith
You had to force yourself to play a video game. A hobby you do in your free time.
Chase Adams
Is Nightmare King Grimm the hardest boss in the game?
Eli James
I didn't buy it but I definitely regret sinking my time into it. It started off strong and just kept getting worse from there. And holy fuck the padding in this game is ludicrous.
Evan Brooks
Literally name a single bit of mandatory padding in the entire game
Kevin Edwards
No.
Nicholas Kelly
dark souls did it first. and better. not looking for an inferior good
Luke Cruz
I had way too much free time back when I was playing it.
Elijah Jackson
>Only one game can do something
Hollow Knight does it better anyways
Samuel Allen
That's the first area. In two hours, you get to Greenpath and it's all forest-looking
Jace Turner
Dropped over 100 dollars on this after being convinced how great it is by a friend. Its probably not even bad, I'm just too dumb to understand any strategy game more complex than civ.
Dominic Rodriguez
fuck, who's harder?
Christian Ramirez
>dark souls
Demons* Souls you stupid fuck. Nobody cares for the opinions of literal retards like you.
Luis Myers
Yea Forums truly has a weird boner for this trashy indie game.
Juan Davis
then have the game copying the mode of storytelling create a reasonably different story. retard king's kingdom gets wiped out by a magic disease. nice. where did team cherry get that one i wonder?
Nathan Robinson
God what shit taste you have.
I regret:
Crypt of the Necrodancer
Hotline miami
hyrule warriors
Lincoln Gutierrez
fuck my sides
Dylan Murphy
>he can't feel the SOUL
James Garcia
Wow it turns out if you reduce something down to the barest concepts, you can make things seem the same.
Evan Reed
With the amount of underageb& zoomers you've upset I think you're actually on to something. Even if you're a trolling faggot.
Colton Price
dark souls had a better story than demon souls though brainlet
Caleb Smith
Considered it's good but not to your liking?
Liam Fisher
A lot of cheap games are like this, because people buy them and never play them. Only 76% of people who own terraria have ever chopped down a tree.
Jaxson Cooper
>but it's really effective for a game where the story isn't the main focus
Why the fuck story's effectiveness matters in a game genre where it shouldn't matter is what nobody answered to me. Who the fuck would say "Mario Kart 8 has everything, and the story is effective" or "Puyo Puyo Tetris has a great story" like, who gives a fuck. Give me hordes of demons and location variety, give me tons of crossroads so that I can take different paths every time I play the game. Show me the map opening little by little to feel that I'm getting close to explore the game.
Metroidvanias are literally 2D dungeon crawlers. Even Ys VIII does it better.
Aaron Ramirez
Should have called this thread
>ITT: people with shit taste
Carter Young
Patrician
Ian Butler
just saying when you copy the mode of storytelling and the framework of the story from a game it might be a bit underwhelming after having experienced the original product
Juan Nguyen
Easy as shit, Morgana's whole argument with Ryuji only for you to find him and they start shit talking again so you can chase that faggot cat down again.
James Cook
>This fucking paragraph of you stroking your own ego is fueled solely by your own opinions and tall claims.
Because Yea Forums doesn't already do that for the last year every time someone namedrops a soulsborne or HK
Henry Price
why don't you go take a look in the waterways, friend :)
Angel Garcia
And this makes you not retarded how exactly?
Don't talk to me.
Hudson Powell
People are making fun of the 30 years of gaming thing like it's an achievement that give his opinion weight.
Kevin Richardson
The idea of a map is to make navigation easier though, its not meant to be a puzzle piece that I am playing an entire game to complete.
Samuel Perez
Ok fair enough actually lmao. But that's literally it, and its like 2 hours of a 100 hours game
Easton Campbell
the moment I was forced to play the cane-wielding faggot I dropped it
Daniel Smith
cringe, user...
Levi Butler
We're making fun of you mr I am an adult please believe me as I desperately try to prove how my dumb opinions are better than yours.
Pathetic.
Henry Ortiz
>a game genre where it shouldn't matter
Stop being so obsessed with genre and judge a game on it's individual merits. The concept of "story games" and "non-story games" is idiotic. If a game is trying to tell a story, and it is integrated well into the gameplay, then who cares what genre it is?
Xavier Peterson
This but unironically.
Also
>Yakuza 0
"Look mom I pressed the button again oh boy a flashing move I broke his jaw mooom get the camera: The game". It's also braindead as all fuck.
I'm seriously starting to believe that people who play 100+ hour long video games for the story never ever read a book worth a shit because "reading takes time".
Mason Morales
You act like Hollow Knight is a blatant DS rip off or something. It does way more than enough to differentiate itself from DS, even if it is heavily inspired by it.
Kayden Gray
Back to youtube comments or wherever you came from.
Hudson Stewart
Are you talking about Godhome? I've done the first 2 pantheons so far, and they aren't nearly as hard as Grimm
Robert Adams
>Stop being so obsessed with genre and judge a game on it's individual merits
No, fuck you. When I boot a racing game do the racing part good. When I boot a fighting game, do the fighting part good. I don't play fighting games or racing games for the "riveting storytelling" and "the plot twists".
Dylan Long
This is the game that made me stop approaching games like a child. Before this game I relied on back-of-the-box gameplay pictures and trust in certain companies. The weird thing was that this game wasn't even THAT bad, I'd played and enjoyed actual trash like Shining Tears for years prior to this.
Hunter Gonzalez
I beat False Knight and Hornet but gave up because I didn't know where to go and got bored. The problem is that compared to SoTN, the level design is really bad and the gameplay is plain boring. SoTN's gameplay is a lot of fun with lots of weapons and abilities, unlike Hollow Knight where you have one attack. SoTN's level design is great because most rooms look unique, unlike Hollow Knight where all the rooms are colourless and look the same. Hollow Knight is a bad metroidvania game.
Lincoln Hughes
Ok but why tho? How is it a bad thing if someone manages to integrate a gripping narrative into an already great racing game? It would just make the game better, no?
Bentley Bell
>same post reformatted for the fifth time in the same thread
You are obvious.
Brayden Adams
I'm the only one that thinks this game difficult is a joke 90% of the time? sure you have the boss rush mode at the end of the game but outside of that there are only a few bosses that could be considered a challenge.
Kayden Roberts
got filtered by a map HAHAHAHA
Daniel Lewis
The game is a walking simulator. The horror is contrived because its by the same guya that made amnesia:the dark descent and waned to do the same monster mechanics, but had to make contrivences upon contrivences just to keep that gameplay mechanic.
Also you solve the monster problem by [Spoiler]this ghost of a guy telling to push a button just off the main story path 10 minutes before game ends to stop all monster shit[/Spoiler]
The whole "you are a robot" part of the story is based on real philosophical values when it comes to things like cloning, or malfunctioning teleporters. He'll, this philosophical debate has been going on since ancient greece about boat replacing parts "is it the same boat?"
Tyler Jackson
Getting lost because the whole game looks the same is not fun.
Asher Evans
Never heard of this before. Just how many JRPGs are forever forgotten and played by no one on the xbox?
Oliver King
you got lost because you're fucking stupid and need your hand held
i navigated the game fine
James Harris
>Sees 2/15 areas
>Why does the entire game look the same?
Christian Miller
i don't understand how you can't even consider people might not think it's good
i'm one of those people and i experience the inverse with people acting like it's some masterpiece i don't understand it and i think it might be a generational thing where most people that really love hollow knight never played super metroid or symphony of the night
Gabriel Watson
>is not fun
And being made fun of for getting lost in a game like hollow knight is?
I mean you get a map and a compass about 20 minutes in. You did make it there right?
Mason Foster
this exactly, still very fun though
>disliking night in the woods is bad taste
genuinely fuck off you soi slurping zoomer
Easton Turner
yeah this the game is super samey visually speaking
Ryan Ramirez
>disliking night in the woods is bad taste
Why do you hate on a game that you haven't even played? I bet you hate Life is Strange too, faggot.
Luis Perez
Show me proof it looks different in later areas.
The map is useless. It doesn't help with navigation.
Jordan Gonzalez
>i don't understand how you can't even consider people might not think it's good
Not him but if those people were to make a sound argument I'd take them seriously.
Act like a retard and I'll assume you're baiting for the sake of my own sanity.
Jacob Cruz
>I bet you hate Life is Strange too, faggot.
fucking kek good one user
Mason Johnson
>super samey
meme phrase, not an argument
you are just blind
Jaxson Morris
>The map is useless. It doesn't help with navigation.
Point and laugh everyone
Ethan Brooks
>Show me proof it looks different in later areas.
No, play the game, faggot
Parker King
Game plays like shit and I can't figure out how to remap the controller. Complete waste of money.
Parker Cox
no need for arguments though it could also just be a matter of taste, you just need to accept that
for me i dislike how much of the game is focused around the shallow combat and how bland the environments were, it feels like a 2d dark souls where everything is dead or decaying and that's just boring in my opinion
i also don't like the design of the creatures in the game as they look like they belong in a flash game
Jacob Baker
Everyone hating on the game is spouting the same brainlet ass, disingenuous arguments tho. Nobody is actually making meaningful criticisms, they're just shitposting
Logan Young
Nice new copypasta material m8.
Henry Hall
not sure what he's getting at with navigation but the map in Hollow Knight does kinda suck. Mapping out an entire room even if you walked 5 feet into it makes it hard to tell which parts of the room you haven't/weren't able to explore yet, making backtracking more tedious than in games with grid based map systems like Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night
Dylan Murphy
Told you, it does all look the same.
Lincoln Hall
not him but, god you're such a baby.
Ethan Bell
Hollow Knight fags truly BTFO
Anthony Walker
surprised this hasn't been mentioned or im blind but i bought this when it came out because n o s t a l g i a
the dialogue of the cutscenes are terrible which is whatever since they've always been corny so i started skipping them entirely and then i quickly realized the gameplay was just so damn boring and tedious even on the difficult setting
played up to the frozen? world and realized that i was literally forcing myself to play through this dogshit
why nomura why
Jayden Powell
>the dialogue of the cutscenes are terrible which is whatever since they've always been corny so i started skipping them entirely
You literally skipped the main draw of the game, which is the retardedly cheesy and stupid story. The difficulty was shit on release too, but critical mode really fixed it.
Luke Brooks
the whole Okumura segment in general was pretty botched. Especially since they're introducing a latecomer while having Ryuji and Morgana's tiff be the focus. I thought the palace itself was fine though, but most hated. It felt like they were trying to do 3 different things in the plot at the same time and none of them payed off properly. I'm speaking as someone who loves the game though
Brayden Johnson
Well no shit, those are the easiest pantheons in Godhome
Brandon Fisher
Am I in for some pain?
James Lee
>it could also just be a matter of taste, you just need to accept that
Right back at ya. You are the autistic that posted that paragraph everyone laughed at earlier right?
Just assuming since you brought up the SoTN generational thing.
Apologies if I'm wrong and you are definitely entitled to your opinions otherwise.
Luke Ortiz
>most sensible post in the thread ignored
I don't understand why you get so many Yea Forums trophy/achievement threads post about people getting filtered when the usual reason is just "they stopped playing the game because whatever"
Leo Bennett
lmao never played this game but my roommate smashed a bunch of shit playing through it so that explains that
Luke Williams
Whyyyyyy did I buy this at full price
Luke Thomas
Oh yes. 4th pantheon has a boss on the level of NKG as its final boss. But the 5th pantheon is where the real fun begins.
Alexander Morales
>Right back at ya. You are the autistic that posted that paragraph everyone laughed at earlier right?
no user what the fuck are you talking about
if my post leads you to labels me as an autist and that doesn't make any bells rings about your own dogma i don't think there's any further point to this conversation
Nolan White
I'm suprised people are getting away with criticizing Nier Automata ITT, I'm usually just met with autistic screeching
Blake Powell
Automata is the best game released this decade, you autistic shitposters aren't fooling anybody
Anthony Cox
Same old "You're a loner in a dead world and everyone speaks in riddles....... epic" shit everyone's doing now
Owen Ramirez
Main target of the thread was Hollow Knight so its skirting by.
Jeremiah Thomas
Hey I already apologized in the case I was wrong. Still don't feel like I was though, what with you ignoring that part of my post and then talking about "dogma".
Yeah no point in the convo though you're right on that part.
Ayden Murphy
People have just gotten tired of the Automata hate shitposting at this point
Justin Young
I'd think you're playing along but this is pretty much exactly what people usually respond
Cameron Rogers
The only good thing about it is 2B. The actual game is shit.
Luis Perez
Where? If it's Yea Forums tier criticism I'm always happy to shit on you user, sorry you didn't get your attention.
Gabriel Ward
I liked the gunplay, but this game buggy as hell.
William Hughes
Literally name a single aspect of Nier Automata that isn't perfect
Joshua Bennett
This piece of shit. It's a terrible game.
>But you can make lolis
That doesn't make it a good game.
Sebastian Bennett
yeah whatever have a nice day
Noah Moore
But it's fun and cute. The protagonist doesn't really matter, although it's a shame that she has such awful rainbow puke design
Jace Lee
You don't seem to understand, user. You can make lolis
Brayden Long
The gameplay is mediocre as fuck.
Carson Jenkins
>It's a terrible game.
i mean it's flawed for sure but what makes it terrible to you
Jason Peterson
Elaborate. The gameplay is very fun, and a massive step up from Nier
Joshua Sanchez
GET GUD.hornet
Brayden Brown
>lolis
What about the part where you climb on huge monsters and bring them down, or where you pull off perfectly charged sword strikes to topple them, or one of the coolest magic spell systems ever implemented? How do you disregard those?
Jordan Garcia
I did make some lolis but after removing their clothing, there was nothing else in the game that interested me. It was expensive for one fap.
Carter Jackson
mediocre combat and enemy variety, garbage enviroments for 70% of the game, tacked on rpg mechanics, super melodramatic writing/dialogue
Anthony Martin
I bought Dragon Age 2 on release day, full price
Isaac Kelly
Yeah, I tried really hard to like it because I like the pawn mechanic but it's just so fucking boring.
Anthony Hall
And you you call it a terrible game? What more could you possible want?
Daniel Walker
its the best tech demo I've ever played at least
Nicholas Evans
That's not hard to do considering nier's combat was barebones as hell.
Angel Young
No, I can perfectly understand why someone wouldn't like it. There's tons of backtracking and the combat is very simplistic, and it has some mechanics that are hit or miss. Its still my third favorite game, but I can acknowledge its flaws as I can with anything.
However the majority of people in this thread are just shitposting/baiting with no meaningful discussion. Its fine to criticize a mechanic as that adds to discussion, but coming in with "oh no no no no hollowblunderfags BTFO literally garbage game" is worthless and obnoxious to people who want to just talk about the game.
Gabriel Baker
it's overrated but it's not bad
not "very good" though
Joseph Bell
Witcher 3
Xavier Perez
>bro the map is so open you can go anywhere!
>except not really because most paths are locked behind powers you dont have yet so you'll just end up walking around for 2 hours trying all the different exits until you find the one we actually meant for you to go next lol
>good luck!
amazing game.
Jose Lee
Got to this level, and I got stuck.
I didn't want to be a bitch and look-up the solution, but I just gave up and haven't played the game, since. I feel like the supreme brainlet.
Logan Ward
Not him but I didn't find any of those fun. The combat feels like Witcher 3 but with the addition of the climbing that is too slow and awkward to be any fun
Angel Morales
I can tell you its not a generational thing, I grew up with both those games, still love HK and think HK is better than both. All three are still amazing.
Adrian Carter
same, I was really hyped for it. I tried to convince myself it was good too. I beat it in like 3 days and felt like my soul had been vacuumed out
Blake Morales
Same. I finished it too.
On the PS3
Big regrets.
Cameron Wilson
Fallout 4
Fuck you, Todd.
Leo Hill
this so much
the reused tropes are painful
Brayden Martin
If you got bored, you can just refund. I heavily doubt that the majority of the people who got completely bored didn't refund it, especially since you can get down to a boss or two in less than 2 hours. I also find it equally hard for a person to like the game enough to keep it, but didn't manage to beat false knight or hornet.
Justin Ramirez
Yep, that's going in my cringe compilation.
Hudson Ramirez
At least it was better than New Vegas.
Ethan Jones
Is this the woefully overlooked criticism you were crying about people not noticing earlier?
What do you want people to do with "x mediocre, garbage y" ?
I disagree. Is this antagonising enough for you?
Matthew Wright
Christopher Johnson
3 > 4 > NV > 1 > 2 > Tactics
Caleb Thompson
All false, try again.
Ayden Sullivan
>im 3 hours in
>exploring Greenpath
>Hear about how False Knight is the filter
>"Shit, when will that happen?"
>Check in-game bestiary
>Already defeated him
You lazy faggots, he's the obligatory tutorial boss, the easy-af-patterns-to-learn boss.
Juan Foster
I'm with you. The thing I remember most about fallout 4 is thinking during the opening sequence when your kid gets stolen "hey, what if the kid is the main bad guy? Nah, they wouldn't do that, its too obvious."
Anyone wanna guess how I felt after finding out the "twist"?
Blake Morgan
it was so tiring to sit through the exact same rockstar game template again
the story in automata was a lot more cliche (actually naming them Adam and Eve etc) and boring compared to gestalt/replicant which I really liked
Evan Cook
>Ascended Nightmare King Grimm
Adam Gonzalez
nice dodge lol
also the point is that people immediately start screeching like there couldn't POSSIBLY be a single issue with the game, and the replies already prove it. The fanbase is almost as delusional as the undertale one
Adam White
False Knight will filter the journalists, but it's not going to filter the casuals.
Isaac Peterson
good thing thats not what it is
Jackson Perry
Tiresome
Hunter Williams
Literally make a single valid criticism towards Nier Automata. Nobody has yet
Jack Davis
This. The only one that comes close is the infinite adjectives Zote. But mostly because Grimm has hard patterns, and punishes hard misreads, Zotelings fucking gets to your nerves.
Austin Sanders
>tacked on rpg mechanics
>implying rpg mechanics are bad
It's hard to find a game that doesn't have rpg mechanics, especially since rpg mechanics is a very vague term.
Cooper Price
Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean its invalid
Zachary Morales
Shit gameplay isn't a valid criticism.
Jackson Williams
Matthew Turner
Neither are anime reaction pics
Nolan Scott
William Fisher
>Youtubers all over it
>Friends all over it
>Buy it full price near release
>Load in
>Hours of running around trying to find eachother
>Find eachother
>Die to friend accidentally pushing me through a wall
This shit was absolute fucking garbage people who enjoy this shit should be fucking shot.
Julian Gutierrez
What a pasta.
Jack Clark
Fuck The Eternal Ordeal
Brayden Lopez
it's not that bad, luckily got it as a gift but played it for less than an hour
Brayden Smith
you're quite simple minded aren't you?
Joseph Morales
Damn, imagine being bad at games, poor guys
Liam Brown
deus ex
vtmb
botw
arma 3
those are the notable ones
Lincoln Edwards
It's not hard, it's boring.
Jeremiah Lee
someone post bloodstained iga shit since itll piss off these anti-HK idiots
Adrian Ramirez
I love getting stuck and having no clue where to go, just a huge waste of money.
Zachary Jones
they like to make movie-type games
Connor Nguyen
cope
Eli Perez
same with me
>friends pressure me to buy it
>launch it to try
>no one wants to play afterwards because of Rust
>30 minutes on records
fml
Sebastian Bailey
Eli Clark
Was able to beat mantis lords but stopped playing. I don't think the game is bad but it didn't click with me. Something about exploration driven 2d gameplay just isn't as interesting as the same in 3d. Don't really like souls gameplay that much in general.
Jace Jackson
>having no clue where to go
You're retarded anyway, no use crying about wasted money when you yourself are a waste of skin.
Luis Clark
user, don't even bother with the little zoomers. He's already outed himself as underage, his argument is invalid.
Luis Martinez
Man I'm not that good
Jacob Stewart
See this is a case where experience clouds judgement. If you're a little kid and your parents put together a small fireworks on your driveway, you'll think it's the tits. If you went to a NY or similar show however, it would put your parents to shame.
Oddly enough I see many inexperienced or first-time gamers play HK because it has a bit of everything a game has. When they beat an easy boss, they think they've just conqured the world because it's the first challenge they've faced. If they played games for years though, they'd understand that accomplishment was nothing. When they piece together HK's story, they think it's the best story ever because it's the first one they've read. As they play more games, again, they'll see that HK's is more of a patchwork job than truly good. I've been playing vidya for 30 odd years now, I am experienced in this field and know the story isn't very good. HK is one of a few games you and many others have played, so you think it's amazing. If you keep playing vidya, you'll see the truth that I'm right. Let me know about it then, bud, would be nice to see what games you've gotten into(if i'm not dead by then lol).
Kayden Murphy
>replies to himself an hour later
Carson Brown
ITT: OP lying for attention
Josiah Johnson
Battleborn
Despite what alot of Anons like to say about this game I'm general, I honestly don't think it's a bad game. There's nothing inherently wrong with it as it seems to do plenty of things right like the combat, the augments, the missions, etc. It can be fun and engaging in a variety of ways, but that enjoyment stems almost entirely from the online multiplayer aspect of it's design, and seeing how this game's playerbase is about as dead as a graveyard, that enjoyment starts to wane really fast. Everything fun about the game hinges on social interaction and the heroes playing off each other's abilities, but since that's pretty much non-existent, it makes the game dull, boring, and otherwise not worth playing since it's only you running around these big maps with nothing but a few enemies in them.
So yeah, despite the potential enjoyment you can get out of it, it's just not worth it without having a few friends to play with, assuming you're only playing the campaign, as you'll be super lucky to find an enemy team in Versus mode. The whole experience sucks, and unless 2k tries doing something with it that could potentially revive the franchise, there's no reason whatsoever to play this shit.
Logan Ross
Nobody except for you takes 2 hours to find those paths though. Just because Metroidvania goes over your head doesn't mean you need to infect every HK thread you find with your zoomershit
Jacob Bennett
It's not a good metroidvania game.
Connor Bailey
Correct, it's a great metroidvania game.
Justin Turner
The gameplay is great though. Literally what is your point?
Jack Williams
I know. I was agreeing with you. Why bother replying? lol
Brayden Reed
False flagging retard
Actual voice of reason
Bentley Brooks
False knight is only filter if youre a journo tier shitter.
HK doesnt really have a filter boss because theyre all out of order.
Jaxon Cooper
That's not a good post
Robert Martin
But it's not. It's shit compared to SoTN and Bloodstained.
Angel Bailey
I actually had the hardest time with the first boss out of the early ones.
Justin Sanders
Basically this. I grew up with SM and everything that game does is better than HK, so you're right, yeah.
Dylan Perry
So do you have any arguments to back the bullshit you're saying up?
Nolan Morales
But stop posting though. There's no way you're still amused by posting the same bait over and over. Surely you are not this autistic. What's wrong with you m8?
Jaxon Anderson
The problem with Hollow Knight isn't the execution, the execution is honestly flawless - but the core gameplay mechanics and platformer shit is really fucking boring, and this is coming from someone who grew up on Wario. Honestly the only platformer I can think of that is genuinely fun and has enjoyable writing is the Sly games. Fuck nostalgia, fuck modern "videogame" mechanics and fuck gaming in general.
Luis Cooper
But it's true. One weapon, three abilities. Talk about boring.
Henry Rodriguez
>he bought vtmb
you fucking retard
the devs don't make money off it anymore
most justified piracy of all time
Daniel Taylor
You're retarded
Adam Hernandez
So hollow knight has better rpg elements, bosses, depth, jump and run mechanics and world building. What does Super Metroid do better again? I'm not arguing SM is bad because it's not but you are just letting your inner boomer do the talking
Zachary Allen
Cause effortlessly blasting through the whole game is so exciting when your attack animations is slightly different every once in a while huh?
Ethan Adams
>It's boring
>Didn't even complete 3% of the game
Thomas Long
bless you, haven't even figured out you're a retard yet. I hope you're still young and havent been stumbling through life as an oblivious mouth breather.
Cooper Gonzalez
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad. More likely you're just a contrarian who is afraid of anything remotely popular. By the way, 95 percent or more of books are garbage as well and your favorite author is probably shite.
Nathan Morales
Hollow knight has tons more characters. Wow SotN sure is boring, right? There is no argument here.
Michael Bennett
Casul
Sebastian Lopez
I hate esl faggots so much
Adrian Rodriguez
Are you seriously waiting for the thread to hit bump limit and replying to every single person that insulted you over the course of the entire thread just to get the last word in you turboautist?
Holy shit I cannot even. What are you? Not a person that's for sure.
Lucas Peterson
Characters don't add to the gameplay.
Jaxson Myers
>better rpg elements
SM has no rpg elements at all, and that's not a bad thing.
>bosses
maybe, maybe not
>depth
?
>jump and run mechanics
absolutely not, SM is much better when you've mastered its movement.
Parker Brown
Wow neat
Can you do that?
Jayden Bailey
Neither does level grinding, in fact it trivializes everything and takes away from it instead.
Anthony Gonzalez
>t. Got filtered by white palace
Jaxson Davis
Correct, it's a great post.
David Sanchez
Honestly, the entire idea of metroidvania has always been stupid to me. SM and HK are similar, but their play styles are completely different. Not only that but SM has little to no emphasis on enemies/bosses. The difficulty is not there and most enemies are trivial at best. SM will always be one of my all time favorite games and it has slightly more options on versatility, but in terms of monster variation, atmosphere, difficulty, and environmental hazards, HK does it better.
That being said, I am sure SM would be a very different game if it were released today, though I doubt it would be as difficult.
Jayden Ramirez
Hollow Knight is the best purchase I've done in recent time. I literally just beat Nightmare King Grimm and I'm feeling fucking great, didn't even have the final nail upgrade.
Owen Collins
Leveling makes the game more fun and less monotonous.
Benjamin Adams
come to think of it i did pirate that one
pirate's remorse then
Carter Diaz