Smash Bros Fighter Pass

I am 100% certain one of the DLC fighters will be the Chosen Undead. A namco rep is happening and Dark Souls is the most popular one by far, next to Pac-Man of course. It’s a damn world phenomenon.

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Wouldn't that just risk end up being a game of telephone since instead of Sakurai to Activision it becomes Sakurai to SEGA to Activision?

based but won't happen without a Bandai Namco character
>banned in Japan
furry faggots who think scat pron is based
Realistically
>kosmos and ryu hayabusa
Wanted
>Nakoruru and Doomguy
RIP
>Space Invaders, JC Denton, Fatal Frame, Springman, ShovelKnight, and Zelda characters

Yeah, but wasn't Banjo also a telephone game of him to Nint. to Microsoft to Rare?

Because he's awesome and people love Doom

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Who's Reimu and why should she be in Smash?

>banned in Japan
These characters have been picked by Nintendo and have been chosen way before MK11 was even announced.
Still possible

If Sabi's claim that Rare Replay Switch edition is coming, it'd reinforce that Nintendo has reasons to push certain characters since it'd align with DQ11S and maybe P5S (yes, I know)

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>Another Bandai Namco character is guaranteed I swear
This has been going on since June 2015.

>to Rare
>implying

It appeals to edgy teens and neets who think it’s presentation is badass, when it has no “style” compared to something like MvC. Ffs their animations are all weak Mo-cap shit instead of exaggerated key-pose based animation

Porky is one of them. There is no reason to not include not only him but also Giygas, Fassad, Dr. Ardonuts, The Pigmasks, The King Statue, etc. from the game entirely unless something’s happening. He’s almost a lock I’d say.

>These characters have been picked by Nintendo and have been chosen way before MK11 was even announced.
That doesn't help his odds at all
MKX has been banned, MK9 has been banned, etc
Literally the only way to get MK in Japan is through importing or going through import stores

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No it’s not. Undertale stuff isn’t missing from the game because they wanted to add it as DLC (which was decided as the game was nearing completion btw), it just wasn’t added.

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Rare Replay won't come unless they do some major changes to it. The Banjo, PD, and VP games aren't port but are 360 emulations games.

It’s happening. It would make sense for one to come now instead of before since sakaurai isn’t the one solely choosing characters.

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I think this would be a great Namco add

That's what the post says
They'll replace the Xbox games with DKC 1-3, Diddy Kong Racing, Star Fox Adventures, and DK64

Kinda? DOOM sells decent but not really groundbreaking

>SNK poster in the background

>Literally developed the game
>Konami, Sega, Capcom, and Square Enix all got more characters after their first
Sorry but red mega-man is never happening, vr-san. I don't even want them that much; but, kosmos, sophtia, or chosen undead is in.
Porky is going to be a boss fight if he does get in.

I doubt Nintendo would like to have DK mixed in with some rated M games.

What we do know
>Hines said Nintendo and Bethesda talked about Smash
>Sakurai said Nintendo chose the DLC with him calling the final shots if he could make them work as a fighter
>Nintendo wants Smash to go after newer audiences
>Hines said on the Nintendo Power podcast that they’re very satisfied with the switch and have more fun surprises for Nintendo fans coming
>Mick Gordon, around January (same time Kirkhope was contacted to do Banjo music for Smash), needed a ”metal choir” for a ”video game” although everyone knows he’s on Eternal, so the secrecy is weird (however a vlog from one of the singers seems to indicate that it was for Eternal)
>Sakurai has a hard on for vidya history and called/knows that Carmack is the father of First Person Shooters

What we don't know
>Was Hine's conversation with Nintendo serious or small talk
>When Nintendo made the list, did they approach the companies first or did they make it first, got Sakurai's approval, and then see if the companies were on board (judging by Atlus' comments about how Joker got in, it seems to side more in favor with negotiations being done last)
>Was it even a list handed to Sakurai? Or was it just literally 5 characters given to him

Ark from terranigma deserves a spot. Best snes jrpg and on par with a link to the past

Shovel Knight and Shantae are there because of the Ballot
Shantae's spirit was added very late in development as well
pastebin.com/NCi8Af0N

So when do you guys think the next two characters will get leaked?

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>furry faggots who think scat pron is based
imagine thinking that i'm into this kind of degenerate shit

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>Doomguy
>Raises Hell!
but doomguy wouldnt raise hell
hed rip and tear it apart

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The most reliable leakers are usually the testers but I have a hunch Sakurai is revealing the DLC before testing phases which is why Hero is coming out later than expected

It's rather disingenuous including Piranha Plant who had an anonymous leak with no evidence that got ignored, in the same category as Dairy Queen who everyone knew was 100% in for over half a year.

A character that has two warring Discords trying to shitpost for and against her respectively

>Doomguy
>Rips apart the competition!
>Reimu
>Seals the deal!

>_______’s the competition!
This shit needs to stop.

>Seals the deal
Already done

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>user tries to stop the competition

Does Roy have anything to do with sealing stuff? I never played FE.

They dont care about having one, my guess is Klonoa, Dig Dug, Miss Pacman or fucking Xeno Goku from the card game

His sword is called the Sword of Seals, or Binding Blade

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*razes hell

there's also this shit
>(insert character here)_____s in!

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I feel lots of people underrate the chances of a Dark Souls rep.

wishful thinking based on pete hines being a silly head

Based as hell.

I agree. I feel like at least Chosen Undead is a lock. If on the off chance that sakurai doesn’t choose him (lol), what DS character would you think he’d make playable? My bet is on either Artorias, Solaire or the Soul of Cinder. I’d be game for all of those except maybe solaire.

>Piranha Plant who had an anonymous leak with no evidence that got ignored
Piranha Plant was leaked beforehand on Reddit by someone claiming that Ken and Incineroar were indeed the last fighters in the base game like people at the time were suspecting.

>Reimu
>Breaks the Boundary

>Doomguy
>slays eternal

Why would they add boss fights to the game post-release, unless there’s a new mode coming? It seems pointless. And even if they add Porky as a boss, that would explain the other characters I mentioned being missing.

Would they even talk to Bethesda Softworks if it was for Doomguy? Bethesda publishes the game but technically both id and Bethesda are subsidiaries of Zenimax.

>more swordsman

Nintendo funded Bayonetta 2 and 3 and have even place characters from M rated games in Smash, plus the bundle is E to M, not just M.

Cause nobody thinks Namco cares about having a rep in general sorta close to not expecting Square Enix cause legal trouble but I guess thats just Square and not Enix but DS is entirely FromSoft with them being the publisher it would barley count like Sega and Atlus, its also another RPG pick

So basically a DS pic is even more likely? You’re making him sound more like Joker than anything, and DS is way more popular than Persona, so it would make a huge amount of sense.

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>Chosen Undead is a lock
Hard to be a lock when there's a lot of potential Namco characters.

>Namco is just the publisher of DS is the West
>Dude that means it's even MORE likely!!!!
Uh, what? You know Atlus actually owned Joker, right

Not him, Chosen Undead is the most likely one by far. I’d say he’s as close to a lock as it gets.

>Doom wasn't groundbreaking

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I mean, to be fair Wolfenstein came first.

MIDI Maze came first

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I fucking wish. My two most wanted characters for Smash are KOS-MOS and Doomguy.

>No Heihachi or Lloyd they were already Mii costumes
>Katamari damacy and klonoa are too niche for smash
All that's left is Kos mos, Yuri Lowell or dark souls.

Bethesda is the public face of Zenimax when it comes to the games they release. Hines stating that "Nintendo and Bethesda have talked" makes sense given the environment he was asked in, even if in reality it was Nintendo and Zenimax holding discussions.

My question is, who is actually likely? Looking back, Banjo and the Hero are two of the more obvious picks for DLC. Banjo has been requested for years, and DQ is the third-best-selling JRPG and wasn't repped in Smash. But now I really don't know who to even expect at all, genuinely

>All that's left is Kos mos, Yuri Lowell or dark sou-

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>First appearance: Digimon Adventure (movie)
Sorry, no movie characters

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That figgters pass would be literally perfect for me. No strong feelings about Doomguy, but he would be cool

you forgetting someone?

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Wolfenstein didn't popularize the genre like Doom did. There's a reason "doom clone" was a regularly used descriptor before fps became the common genre title.

I have a strong feeling one of them is crash

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hat kid is gonna be indie playable rep

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>mortal kombat
>2019
Nigger.

Which smash characters would be friends with who?
bonus points for characters from different series becoming friends

>Klonoa is too Niche for Smash
Of the potential Namco reps Klonoa is a fairly popular pick.

Nintendo hates trannies

The first two reps appealed more towards the Eastern market.
The third rep appeals more towards the Western market.
The fourth will be for the Western market.
The fifth will be more universal, considered equal popularity in East and West.

Kirby with everyone.
As Sakurai demands that all will love the poyo.

klonoa wasn't really as legendary of a platformer as banjo kazooie was

>patterns
man fuck this shit, we get whoever we get no matter the imaginary patterns or rules

No I dont think any Namco pic is likely atm, they have shown that they are disinterested in adding a character even more than Square but I feel like DS is still weird cause its another RPG pick and one they only publish
Tales of, Klonoa, Dig Dug, Tekken etc are at least made in house by them and have their own followings although maybe not as big as DS but the series are at least made by them

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I'm surprised Dig Dug has garnered little to no consideration

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Digimon started as a v-pet idiot.

but that's wrong, rosterfag. the first digimon v-pet came out two years before the movie, and agumon is in it.
wikimon.net/Digital_Monster_Ver._1

Make it happen, Samurai.

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Too bad if we were to get Trails representative, you can bet your ass it's going to be Rean.

That is if Adol isn't chosen as Falcom's rep.

Just give me Phoenix please Sakurai

Hero WHEN Sakurai its summer right now you fuck

doomguy is all i could ever want. i've wanted him since brawl but im not getting my hopes up

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Fuck I forgot to add the humanity mechanic to this

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>This year is the 20th anniversary of the first installment of his franchise's main series and the anime that made the series famous.
>Square=Cloud/Enix=Dragon Quest guys
>Sega main branch=Sonic/Atlus branch=Joker
>Namco=Pacman/Bandai=???

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yeah bro point at me haha like thats gonna do any-
OHONONONON IM SORRY PLEASE DONT FUCKING MERK ME IM SORRY I DIDNT KNOW YOU WERE GOD TIER IN MVC3 PLEASE DONT DO IT

Yeah I'm shocked a lot of people remember him he has a lot of moves they could pull from the other games, helps that he was their secondary mascot and has been referenced in multiple games like Tekken, Tales of, SolCal etc also would really help the ip not being dead considering the others especially Digimon are still alive and well. I just hope Namco takes the opportunity to revive it like Banjo and expose the games to newer people. I at least want a consolation spirit with whoever else gets in

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Banjo was indeed popular but to call it legendary is a stretch. It's not even like the games are as talked about as even Crash or anything. And those who I see talk about Klonoa consider it to be one of the Playstations best platformers, the thing that hurt Klonoa was his lack of advertisement.

No more third-parties, please.

Personally, even though it's unlikely, I'm hoping for an Undertale/Deltarune rep

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Hasn't it been confirmed to only be third-parties for the pass except for PP?

Realistically, swordsman aren’t the problem. It’s the lack of creativity with 90% of the swordsmen in smash that’s the problem.

I still find it weird that shovel knight and shantae and runner got spirits. But undertale one of the biggest indies of all time got nothing.

Shovel Knight and Shantae both were pretty well represented in the ballot, so that made sense to me. But I agree, I think Undertale's absence is notable.

It wasn’t really much of a thing during the development of ultimate. All the indie characters in ultimate are relatively old as fuck.

Based he deserves it

Undertale is getting a full DLC pack

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Shovel Knight is from 2014

Would he be able to Digivolve or not?

no, swordsmen are the problem too. smash was supposed to be different from fighting games, but the roster looks more like soulcalibur by the game.

>Raises Hell!
>Not "RIPS AND TEARS the competition"

If dark souls got in (it won't) it would be Solaire.

Remember when it was space furries everyone complained about?

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Nope. It's possible, but it would be a bad move.

Ok Retard

>Wasn't much of a thing during the development of ultimate

Undertale came out at the ass end of 2015 and blew up in popularity all over the world. Ultimate started development in february of 2016 when the hype for it was still growing somehow

This is the dumbest shit I have ever heard and it makes me think you haven't played Smash or Soulcalibur

>Crash
>Leon/Jill/Chris/Claire
>Doomguy
I think were going to get one of these guys, maybe two, but obviously not all three.
Crash does have some popularity in Japan, and is pretty much back in the spotlight. We do already have a 3D platformer character in the dlc, but we also have two JRPG characters in the dlc, so Im not counting him out. Activision also puts lot of shit on Nintendo systems, so they could be seen as a valuable partner in Nintendos eyes.
Leon/RE character seems likely on the basis that Capcom is extremely easy to work with and RE is pretty much the biggest japanese series that isnt in Smash. An RE character covers the horror genre, which hasnt been touched in Smash yet.
Doomguy has a strong history with Nintendo despite what faggots that are too young to remember Doom 64 exists believe. The "talks" between Bethesda and Nitnendo are something to think about, but not take too seriously. Hell, its possible they were for Smash but for Dragonborn or something. Either way, Sakurai knows how important Doom is to gaming and Bethesda is giving the Switch an unusual amount of love, so I'd consider him a real possibility.

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>It wasn’t really much of a thing during the development of ultimate.
Ok but it actually was. UT came out in 2015, it was highly anticipated here and in Japan, and they have a sequel in the works. Frankly, UT makes more sense than Shovel Knight in my opinion

Banjo was for Nips as well
legendsoflocalization.com/what-do-japanese-fans-think-of-banjo-kazooie-in-smash-bros/

Why wouldnt you want Dante?

Reimu in Smash depends greatly on the following factors
>Would Nintendo consider an indie
>Was the number of characters Nintendo proposed to Sakurai exceeding the number 5
I argue this because if Nintendo were to ever for an indie, it'd be Reimu (or at least, she'd be among they would consider)
>Last December, ZUN had officially given Nintendo a license, allowing Band Brothers players to upload music based on all Team Shanghai Alice albums, i.e. the PC-98 Touhou OST, and ZUN's music collections. They followed it up with a Shanghai Alice Remix Contest for players, with ZUN as a special judge. The winners were announced in the previous broadcast ZUN attended; their compositions will be collected in a CD sold at Reitaisai, marking Nintendo's first ever appearance at Reitaisai.

shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=19472.30
They've been to Reitaisai before so they are familiar with the character and if the pitched characters didn't meet the fixed, small amount of 5 than it'd mean there'd be room for consideration regarding Reimu.
She also meets the whole "appeal to a different demographic" argument Nintendo has though she's not the only one to carry said argument
>"With Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu!/Pokémon: Let's Go, Eevee!, we asked 'How could we reach people who had played Pokémon GO, for example, but never played Nintendo Switch?' With Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, we asked 'How could we reach not only fans of the Super Smash Bros. series, but also those who had never played it before?' If you look at the demographics of the consumers who purchased each of these titles, I?m not convinced we?ve completely overcome these challenges yet. So our aims are to keep working on them this year, to expand sales of these titles to new consumer demographics, and to keep selling these games for a long time, which is one of our strengths."

gamesradar.com/heres-what-you-need-to-know-from-nintendos-investor-qanda-new-online-switch-game-and-more/

Hopefully. Basically a cross between Pokemon Trainer and Little Mac with him changing forms when his meter fills.

That wasn't language/region based though
Its like saying Sakurai/Nintendo to Capcom to Capcom's Fighting Game Division is telephone

Because Resident Evil is far more deserving

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Biggest problem I've had with a Touhou character in Smash is the fact that, outside of Japan, Nintendo doesn't seem interested in pushing the IP at all. Heck they even pushed DQ since they spearheaded some of the translations, but they've never really showcased the Touhou games worldwide. Really for that reason alone I've always thought that it probably isn't happening. While Undertale hasn't been around as long, Nintendo reached out to Toby to get the game on their systems, and they've seemed very big on pushing it worldwide. I just think it's more likely.

That's a weird way to spell Pheonix

But dante has a much more interesting moveset potential then any re character. Would be fine with leon tho

It just makes much more sense for Capcom to go with RE, it's had like 5x the sales DmC has

I'd very much like Dante, but I want Leon about the same, and its very unlikely that we would get both in the same pack.

Im not looking from a corporate percepective, im looking at a percpective of "this character would have by far the most fun moveset in smash"

He would be neutered in terms of moveset, basically a Bayo 2.0 or more recent Joker waiting to happen
Joker even kinda stole what wouldve been his Devil Trigger meter mechanic, basically his moveset is too complex and varied for Smash

Remaining Third Party Costumes (not counting SE since they'd come with Hero)
>Akira
>Jacky
>Zero
>EXE
>2 Monster Hunter costumes
>Lloyd
>Heihachi
>Gil
>X
>Protoman

First Party Costumes from Smash 4
>Toad
>Business Suit
>Viridi
>Fox
>Captain Falcon
>Ashley
>Bionic Suit
>Takamaru
>K Rool
>Hoodie
>Bear
>Flying Man
>Chrom
>Black Knight
>Samus
>KK Slider
>Isabelle
>Inkling
>Inkling Hat
>SSB T-Shirt
>Link cap
>Majora's mask
>Dunban
>Cat Suit
>Monkey Suit

New Mii Costumes
>Teddie hat
>Morgana hat
>P3 Protagonist
>P4 protagonist

Predict the new Mii costumes if we're getting a same amount as the first party stuff that's in Ultimate's base game already

I mean, I think that a lot of people would be cool if done by Sakurai. Plus I dunno why slashy shooty man is better than zombie shooty boy

This

Joker actually was leaked.

I feel like King K Rool was too at one point but I can't think of an exact time.

>reimu
Into the trash it goes

Doombrah is way too important to not be in. I woudn't mind Chief either. I swear if we get silly shit like Kos-Mos and Hayabusa I won't be mad but still questioning the roster.

Would a fighter with a special that heals themself and/or teammates be balanced?

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Because of his arsenal
>nunchucks that turn into a fire/lightning spear
>dual wielding chainsaw motorbikes
>cowboy hat that can summon a meteor
>dual elemental blades
>electric quitar that shoots out electric bats and can turn into a scythe
>dual rocket launchers
Probably forgetting somethings but theres a lot to work off

RE could have a fun moveset

As fun as this ?
Not saying leon wouldnt be fun but dante blows them out of the water

No one gives a shit about Digimon

Joker was never leaked, the leak that leaked him was wrong

Any 2 of these for me:
Amaterasu
Dante
Doomguy
Reimu
Tony Hawk just kidding or am I?
>tfw DMC 1 is on Switch
It can happen now

Wouldn't like, most of his moveset be slashing with a sword or shooting his guns

Probably not as bombastic but if Dante was included he'd have to be somewhat neutered/streamlined in terms of his moves and weapons

If sakurai was an unimaginative retard

This. Especting Dante to have all his weapons is like hoping that Joker would have multiple personas with multiple movesets

That already exists and yes

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Assuming Mii Costume Theory doesn't mean shit
>Shovel Knight Mii Swordsman
>Cadence Mii Swordsman
>Shantae Mii Brawler
>Bomberman Mii Brawler
>Slime Hat
>Alena Mii Brawler
>Dragonlord Mii Swordsman
>Metal Gear REX Mii Gunner
>Raiden Mii Swordsman
>Dante Mii Swordsman
>Leon S Kennedy Mii Gunner
>Phoenix Wright Mii Brawler
>Mumbo Jumbo Swordsman
>Master Chief Gunner or a Jago/Fulgore Brawler if we're sticking to Rare
>Steve
>Chun-Li Mii Brawler
>Guile Mii Brawler
>Masked Lumen
And still room for whatever Newcomers are left

That is the problem, he would definetly be neutered and a shell of what hes avtually like in his game, much like bayonetta. Smash aint no MVC3

Looking at the current state of sword users I think that yes, most of his moveset would be slashing with his sword or shooting his gun. And a counter.

It's going to be Dante and KOS-MOS

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Well most of his moveset WILL be that, because it's not like they're gonna make up some new animation for each varied A attack, with a completely different weapon they have to model

off yourself, stevey. There is nothing innovative about legos,

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Dante and master chief

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I'd be ok with this too

Isn't Greymon like, fucking huge in comparison to the heavies we have in Smash? I guess they could shrink him.

See you soon Genochads

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Mii Costumes

Nigga we already have the Microsoft rep with Banjo
Yes, it's cheating, but hey, it's Banjo

Well thats lazy isnt it, especially when people pre payed for a fighter pass

even if Dante were toned down for smash he'd still be a very interesting character with his DMC1 moveset at the very least. Like maybe he'd have a DT gauge and get access to moves like meteor, air raid, and vortex when it fills. So even without weapon or style switching he'd be a very interesting character from a gameplay perspective.

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If I could get two of the following:
>Sora
>Crash
>Frisk/Kris
>Jill
then I'd be happy

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Fuck off anime fag, Mortal Kombat had some really big balls, every fighting game in the 16 bit gen was always the same, anime style with minimal violence and detail.

I'm amazed how well and experimental mortal kombat looks for the time. Also the speed and combo game from UMK3 is better than the shitty and overrated Street Fighter 2.

Bro you're like 17 get off the board

>basically his moveset is too complex and varied for Smash
just copy what they did for DINO in the PlayStation smash clone

Who gives a shit? The majority of Smash's audience is in the west. There is no reason for every character to be recognized internationally and MK is one of the biggest fighting games in the States. Also none of MK's gory elements need to be translated into Smash. youtube.com/watch?v=8Liw0YMU8UM

>Coming up with a new character, stage and music isn't enough, we want each individual A-attack to have unique animations with unique weapons
Seems to me like you're asking for a lot for $5

STEVE STEVE STEVE STEVE STEVE STEVE STEVE STEVE STEVE STEVE
FUCK ALL OF YOU FAGGOTS
STEVE IS IN
KILL YOURSELVES
BANJOFAGS

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>Getting upset at someone else's choices
lol

I'd rather they put more time into creating a unique character playstyle then cosmetic shit

>Who gives a shit?
Sakurai does
He doesn't add characters like Takamaru or Ayumi for no western recognition

KOS-MOS's moveset has the potential to be awesome

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But user, making a unique animation for each A-attack with unique weapons IS cosmetic shit.
In fact, by your own merits, you'll be totally cool with Dante if he's a sword user. So why bitch?

You know, with how Stevefags are actually a thing because of the kids who played it are grown up now
I'm starting to wonder if by Smash 6, we'd see people unironically wanting Fortnite in Smash and that Steveposting is replaced with Fortniteposting and that the future/current Newfags will treat Steve like the new Banjo.
After all, rosterfagging only keeps getting worse

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I wouldnt be cool with hin just being a sword character cos thats like 25% of his moveset. New animations would mean different weapons which is what i am advocating for if dante gets in

She's gonna be a Mii Gunner costume and you know it

There are already characters with very little Japanese or Western recognition in. Sakurai's rules are flimsy and rarely ever absolute, and many of excuses apply to adding specific characters for a specific game. Only rule I'd take with certainty is no fourth party characters.

>I wouldnt be cool with hin just being a sword character cos thats like 25% of his moveset. New animations would mean different weapons which is what i am advocating for if dante gets in
But user, it shouldn't matter that he uses a sword. I mean what matters is that he's interesting, right? I mean, making all those animations when a sword would work just fine is the epitome of cosmetic shit. I thought you hated that?

He wouldnt be interesting if he just used a sword. Thats been my point from the start

All i want is this plus diddy kong racing on switch. Plz rare

Considering Scorpion isn't even among Smash polls and that MK11 on the Switch didn't do much to change much, I'd say nobody

Why? He has Devil Trigger and his guns and shit. So the reason Dante is interesting is because he might use an axe AND a sword? Geez you have low standards

>Playing Crazy Orders in WiiU as Robin and getting my health back with Nosferatu

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hey buddy i think you got the wrong door

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have you ever played a dmc game

everything is cyclic so its entirely possible, in the end samurai has more or less the last word however so I think there will be at least some gatekeeping from that kind of push Theres also the fact that most steve posters are just shitposters trying to rile people up, but thats a different topic

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Nice job avoiding my question, faggot

R u being ignorant on purpose, i outlined all the weapons he could use here If he just used a sword, guns and DT he'd be no different from joker

So he'll be like Joker... but with a couple extra wacky weapons.
Pass. Sounds like shit

Steveposters may be mostly ironic (that said, them not wanting a character in is legit)
youtube.com/watch?v=ub46uT3VN1c
But Stevefags are not ironic
They're legit zoomers who want The Blockhead in

Chosen Undead will be a Mii Costume
Phoenix Wright will be a Mii Costume
KOS-Mos will be a Mii Costume
Dante will be a Mii Costume
Leon will be a Mii Costume
Klonoa will be a Mii Costume

Shes from Xenosaga which is tied to Xenoblade so I dont really expect her unless Sakurai feels bad about fucking over Rex then adding Joker and Luminary

If sakurai doesnt put in any effort yeah you sassy little ginger faggot

digimon is a multi-billion-dollar franchise. it's a much bigger deal than most of the shit that rosterfags beg for.
if banjo can get into smash - even though all of his games sold like shit except for the first one and his franchise has been dead for over a decade - there is no argument against agumon.

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Banjo got in because of sheer, raw demand (and the possibility that Rare Replay Switch will be a thing according to Sabi)

Im not the guy you were replying to, just asking. also there are no axe weapons in dmc. It's about swapping between movesets on the fly to create your own combos and setpieces. Unlike other action games like ninja gaiden where you would have to navigate through a menu to change weapons or Bayonetta where you just map different weapons to a different button. In DMC you adapt to whatever weapon you switch out to and cycle movesets constantly. It's the point of the character since DMC3.

But if they can't impliment that for smash, in DMC1 Dante can still swap between gauntlets and his sword, has a grenade launcher and a charging laser gun, and gets access to moves that let him fly around in devil trigger. He has vastly more moveset potential that almost any other contender and there's a reason why he has exponentially more moves than any other character in MVC3, despite only pulling moves from one of his games.

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>Sakurai feels bad about fucking over Rex then adding Joker and Luminary
Nah sounds kind gay either way. Plus Jill's better in MvC, they could do a better job with that anyhow

>there is no argument against agumon
V-Pets aren’t video games

select your character Yea Forums

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actually I guess there is an axe weapon in the reboot, but nobody likes that game.

yes they are.

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Because I give less than 0% of a fuck about his series. He’d also just be a bayo clone.

Shrek gets in twice

That seems more like a croticism of smash as a game then dmc

Because Amaterasu is far more interesting

Realistically speaking, it's going to be between Crash, Lloyd, and Monster Hunter, with Crash and Lloyd probably having the highest chances.

Banjo's inclusion seems to indicate that Nintendo is pretty clearly fine with "cereal mascot" characters and if we're going with the whole theory about including Mario's rivals, Crash would be the pretty fitting. Kind of a boring inclusion but his chances are looking pretty high right now.

Lloyd's chances come mainly from how Bandai provided the manpower for Ultimate just like they did with Smash 4 and it seems likely Nintendo will through them another bone to keep the relationship going. Lloyd in particular as another Namco rep just comes from how requested he has been, the fact that Symphonia was one of the biggest (and only) JRPGs on Gamecube, the fact that Tales games already share ideas from their control schemes with Smash making for a very easy moveset, and because of how Lloyd was specifically chosen as the mii costume option previously because he was the easiest one to work out the license to.

Monster Hunter is really only an option because there is already content from the series in the game and it really seems out of place without a fighter to represent it.

Out of those three, Crash and Lloyd are pretty boring choices but seem like safe bets. Monster Hunter would be my preference because there could be a really interesting idea there if you did the moveset right. My thought would be a sort of multiple characters in one deal. They could choose something like 3 or 4 of the staple weapons and let you choose one of them from the select menu. The weapon you choose would determine your normals while all 3 or 4 weapons would share the same specials which would all be basic hunting tools.

He's reserved for Playstation All-Stars 2

Compare hee potential moveset to this

>trusting anything pete hines said
And I was thinking Doomguy actually had a chance. Jesus, this is the proof you guys have?

Yes, but only if it’s not a lot of health regained. See fellow soulsbro

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>Playstation All-Stars 2

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Her would be more interesting. Plus she’s a total new body type and he’s a generic human. He really can’t compete.

How about
>Reimu joins the incident
Or maybe something like Ryu's
>The eternal shrine maiden of paradise - Reimu

It really couldn’t. What the fuck could they possibly do? What little generic boring shit they COULD do was taken by joker, who already has a notoriously shitty moveset.

Mr game and watch

>Shes from Xenosaga which is tied to Xenoblade
Xenosaga is legally a completely different franchise/IP from Xenoblade so there's a loophole, even though everybody knows they're spiritually a series.

Crash is the only one who makes sense to me He has recent games for Switch that sold well and is popular here and in Japan. Fine. But here's my issue with the other two
>Lloyd
His game came out 16 years ago, and he hasn't been a significant character since. Yes the game was re-released on PS3 years ago, but there's absolutely no indication they wanna do anything new with Symphonia. Then there's the fact that Arise isn't releasing on Switch as far as we know. It just doesn't make sense to push Lloyd, knowing what we know.
>Monster Hunter
It also could happen, granted. But I feel like all excitement the character could have had is now gone. After all, we got the stage and boss already. So I just feel like it's not gonna happen due to the hype loss

Given how difficult Sakurai made it seem and how hesitant he was to work with just a western composer, how likely do you think it is we see another non-Nip character in the pack? Obviously Banjo broke the norm and it was never really a rule in the first place but with 2 characters left and tons of options from the likes of Capcom and Bamco I don't think it's super likely.

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I just want my Crash.

I want my chosen undead

>and in Japan
What's with the blatant lies? Japan doesn't give a shit about Crash, the trilogy sold like 50k.

Here's your fully western pandering rep.

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>They'll want to make the 5 fighters varied so one will be a girl
>We'll get another boring pick like Hat Girl, Cooking Mama, Frisk, Amaterasu, Etna or whoever the Fortnite girl is.

At least we'll still get someone based like Waluigi/Doomguy/Scorpion/Ray MkIII for last.

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>Japan doesn't give a shit about Crash

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same to you, Banjochad

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It's not blatant lies? Crash had a manga run in Japan and he's pretty well-known. One of the reasons Tawna left the series was due to them introducing Coco for Japanese audiences

>Cooking Mama
>Boring
Well, fuck you too.

>Katamari is niche but not KOS-MOS :)

I wish I could punch your smug fucking face

fuck me wrong one.

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>They wanted Crash more than Banjo
Legitimately surprising

>With Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, we asked 'How could we reach not only fans of the Super Smash Bros. series, but also those who had never played it before?' If you look at the demographics of the consumers who purchased each of these titles, I?m not convinced we?ve completely overcome these challenges yet.
Wow, this is the best evidence for Doomguy I've seen yet.

>super mario bros is not important because Pitfall came first

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>fucking sans
Is this real life?

Crash was more in the public consciencious with the remaster

>amaterasu
>boring
The fuck? How? You’re an FEfag aren’t you?

this shit again
Japan has not forgotten Crash Bandicoot, even if they didn't buy the remakes

Amaterasu and Heihachi

Pitfall and Mario are pretty different, Doom and Wolfenstein are extremely similar. Don't be retarded on purpose again

Japan actually likes Undertale a lot, unironically.

You know who isn't on that list? Fucking Reimu.

>His game came out 16 years ago
Banjo makes this argument irrelivant
>and he hasn't been a significant character since
technically speaking, no Tales character has had repeat significance since most of the games are one-off stories. It doesn't stop the characters in them from being loved by fans of the series. Arise is coming, sure, but not for Switch and Lloyd is pretty recognizable for Nintendo fans, and like I said, the main reason he was chosen for the Mii costume was because he was the easiest one to work out the licensing rights for.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I want him. I just think he stands a pretty solid chance. I can almost guarantee one of the slots will be a Namco character and among the choices, he seems the most likely and feels most in line with how the DLC has been shaping up thus far.

>no batallion wars or advance wars rep to summon tanks and soldiers as part of their moveset

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don't worry bro. we kept your seat warm.

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Undertale is extremely popular in Japan
It was used by a popular Japanese wrestling federation to advertise a huge game
You can buy Undertale merch in a lot of stores.

Honestly Klonoa or Agumon I would rather have as the Namco rep, the others aren't bad but these cereal mascots are the type I can see standing next to Pac man

>Steve that high
They actually fell for the meme

basically what said and the fact that Toon Link's tip makes a reference to Sans.

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Would Smash be as big as it is if it was an MvC style fighting game or just a traditional style game?

This seems like a list made by someone who thinks they know Japan's tastes but actually doesn't and faked the ballot results.

cope Stevecuck

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>Toon Link's tip makes a reference to Sans
I fucking hate this meme so much. It's NOT A REFERENCE TO SANS. Both "Get Dunked on" and "You're gonna have a bad time" predate Undertale by fucking years.

>the fact that Toon Link's tip makes a reference to Sans.
Did everyone just collectively forget that "you're gonna have a bad time" was not only a fairly common phrase, but also a fucking South Park meme that predates Sans by a matter of years?

These are characters in a NINTENDO game on a NINTENDO console.

Say something nice about them.

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Sans (Undertale)
Cecil (Final Fantasy IV)

Yeah, I know they're much older memes individually, but "Get Dunked On" and "You're Gonna have a bad time" used in succession of one another is definitely an Undertale reference.

It wouldnt be as unique but yeah, this type of roster but more traditional fighting controls would save real fighting games

twitter.com/R_Gamer_Takeshi/status/1126060567385366528

see

Smash would be an infinitely better game if it was that roster with mvc3 gameplay

Its not evidence
Its an argument

It's also the English translation, and we all know how Treehouse can get with inserting memes for no reason.

>megaman can hold up a crumbling building over his head
>can barely carry doom guy's weaponry
there's something retarded going on here

Don't mind me

strawpoll.me/18221147
strawpoll.me/18221147
strawpoll.me/18221147
strawpoll.me/18221147
strawpoll.me/18221147

This isn't decisive proof or anything, I just want to know what you guys think.

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>Yuri and leon next to each other
These are who I predict

Marco's coming, he's bringing his friends with him too

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My argument is that you need to have sex fag

as much as I think Dante would be one of the most fun characters to ever grace a smash bros game, I'd also be really happy with Phoenix Wright. Loved playing both of them in Marvel 3. Not at the same time though, the Lythero team is wack as fuck.

imagine actually believing doomguy or reimu have a chance

He varies since hes a digital program. In the games hes usually charzard sized

>Yuri
And people think the Tales of rep would be Lloyd, he only got a costume cause that's Sakurais personal favorite like Geno but Yuri is the Japan favorite

Here's a list of Genres/types of games without much representation in Smash outside of spirits, off the top of my head.
>STG
>FPS
>Indies
>Puzzle Games (unless you count Doctor Mario)
>Tower Defense
>SRPGs
>Run n' Guns (Unless you count Megaman)
>Rhythm Games
Anything I'm missing?

>only 1394 votes
These results mean jack shit then.

imagine actually believing they don't with no real argument

That tip originates from Smash 4, which predates Undertale.

Shmups?

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>anything I'm missing?
Eroge, people are really sleeping on Rance, the face of porn games

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TCGs

That's STG, user.

My bad.

based

Just imagine Capcom vs nintendo with tag gameplay made by capcom. That shit would actually be the definitive video game

>not faceless fat man
His final smash would be forcing the character to watch him fuck their beloved as they are unable to do anything about it.

Can people stop saying this?

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no, because casuals wouldn't play it if it was a fighting game.

We already have a rapist in Smash though

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they're going to add lara croft and release a tomb raider game on the NEWswitch the same time. hopefully she will have a full nude skin modders can tap into. then they're going to do a pokemon trainer from sword and shield with the starters just like PT. before those last two come out they will tease a season 2 DLC pass and everyone will buy it because GENO will be the limited time preorder incentive. they will literally make a billion dollars off DLC purchases and geno amiibos

...

A hollow knight rep would be so fucking based

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>Any of them except Fortnite girl
>Boring
>Calling Waluigi and Scorpion based

THIS

That would be Saber

The two most popular franchises in the world, duh.

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>Good ending
Rance (Rance series)
Custer (Custer's Revenge)
>True ending
Pepsiman (Pepsi man)
Burger King (Sneak King)

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Reimu and Soom Dlayer

virtual pets.

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Sandbox games. BOTW is a sandbox game, but that's a sole exception from a series that was solely open-world/action-adventure for a long time.

Actually, it will. It has a very high chance of getting in. And no the fuck it won’t be solaire. He’s literally just some random NPC in the game that people like because of memes. He’s not important at all. You’d know this if you actually played the games. He would be an alt on the chosen undead at best.

Shantae and Doom Slayer

or Shantae and KOS-MOS hopefully.

Who?

CHOSEN UNDEAD.
EVERY THREAD.

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>Pokemon clone

Earthworm Jim and Rabbid Peach

I like the idea, but isn't Chosen Undead a little too blank, personality-wise? I'm pretty sure Solaire would be a better fit since he's a more defined character and also probably the most iconic figure to come out of the series.

Also, alt costumes should have parity with the other designs. Artorias and Soul of Cinder have greatswords instead of sword n board which will lead to confusion with hitboxes, attacks and such. Bearer of the Curse would make more sense as an alt,

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>Shantae
Spirits Deconfirm

Mii Costume

>IT HAS "MON" IN NAME, SO IS SAME

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>Fits the mii costume theory by being a bamco franchise
>Fits the color theory with his color being orange for the estus
>Popular game series that has influenced a cult of people that want difficult video games again
>Would be surprising to a majority of people, fitting reggies quote of "hard to predict characters"
>Dark souls emphasis on punishing losses could make for some unique characterization in smash, plus phantom summons and blood stains would be unique taunts
>Dark souls mechanics of learning boss patterns and attack ranges fits with smash perfectly
>No real knight like design in smash yet, anime swordsmen don't count
Honestly he's got a very good shot

wtf is the color theory

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We all inflate down here

PLEASE SAKURAI LET HIM IN

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I would rather have this honestly, I like Dark Souls but I wouldn't be ecstatic about another Nameless sword RPG avatar character

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>No real knight like design in smash yet

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fake, Banjo is called "Banjo-Kazooie" in smash, not "&"

Wow user, you really cracked the case. Somebody call eventhubs.

Solaire is an NPC that you only see a few times, so he’d be best suited as an alt costume of the chosen undead. Artorias also had a shield at one time, so he wouldn’t be a problem, especially since sakurai doesn’t really give a fuck about details like that for whatever reason. Cinder, while doesn’t normally have a sword, could easily just be given one, since you wear his armor anyways. Just give him a shield that better fits his aesthetic.

Also I don’t think him lacking much in personality is that big of a deal, since he still has taunts in his own game, and plenty of other characters in smash are pretty lacking in personality.

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>Can still see his eyes
>Skin exposed
This is a knight design and he isn't playable

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Here's your Namco rep.

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Basically they think each DLC will have a different color for their background, in this case the rainbow
Its idiots repeating the same mistake

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thank you :) i try

In retrospect this DLC was mostly unspectacular.

Even if if don’t count pets, Digimon World for the PS1 predates Digimon Adventure by about two months. And before you claim that Digimon World was a cash-in meant to shill for the anime, they’re totally unrelated to one another other. They feature different casts and operate on completely different rules. They both features kids getting sent to the Digital World, but that’s about it.

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OK, if there is a capcom rep, which of these would you choose?
Phoenix Wright
Dante
Leon Kennedy/Jill valentine

>the rainbow
>5 colors
I gave up trying to make sense of patternfags.

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Viewtiful Joe

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Ammy

What I want is Reimu and Crash, but what I think is likely is Nakoruru and Crash.

>Newcomer ANAL SEX is fucking shit up!

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Point and Click.

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none, because i'd want Monster Hunter

>Nakoruru
Why do people believe that faggot leaker?

Yes please

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Cloud and Ryu were hype

>Sam & Max debuted in 1987, as a comic book series

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sometimes i forget how much of a manlet vegeta is

Plant counts for this retarded theory so its actually 6

Monster Hunter is already represented perfectly with Rathalos. Don't be greedy now

Not much else to go on really. What are the knocks against them anyways? Everytime I ask why they aren't credible I get ignored so I just assumed they were credible.

I hate that ryu was leaked. If his reveal was a surprise that would of been megaman level hype. Not quite cloud, sonic or snake but still pretty exciting.

>the rainbow has six colors
Not helping its case

>Reimu and Doom guy
I'd absolutely be more than happy with this.

>Katamari is too niche but KOS-MOS and Yuri Lowell aren't
I absolutely agree that if we get a second Namco character it's most likely going to be a Souls rep but come on now

>another Capcom rep
lol no

None, they have 3 characters already I kinda want something like Hayabusa, Terry, Namco etc

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If it wasn't for the fact that it would give Nicalis money, I'd want Quote in, but fuck that

but user, i wanna hunt the monster as a monster hunter

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Spoonfeed me on the Nicalis/Cave Story deal

>told myself I wouldn't care who gets in after Banjo
>a part of me still doesn't want shitty characters like Reimu or Shantae to ever get in

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Their original claim of having seen a female fighter dates back to like October or November, when Sakurai said back when the game came out that they were only working on three fighters at the time. It seems like they decided to try to push it again after managing to guess a Dragon Quest character.
Speaking of that, their description of Hero is imprecise at best and at the time rumors about it from Vergeben and other people already started spreading.
Uses the tried and tested snake oil technique of pretending to not know who is the character that they are leaking and giving a vague description in order to cover more bases.

All signs point to this being a LoZ18 type of deal where someone manages to get an hold on legit info and sprinkles in their own bullshit in order to try to get more internet fame.

This bait tastes like shit.

I really like the Chosen Undead and all, but I really wish the Soul of Cinder became playable. Hopefully he’s an alt of the CU when he gets in at the very least.

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Not as bad as your tastes..

I see. That makes sense. Thanks for finally giving me info. All I ever heard was "Morrigan or Nakoruru is in" with no dissent, so it's nice to hear the other side.

Stop throwing poop in the water, no fish will eat this.

I don't want Reimu.
Nobody cares about her except for the porn.
She's boring.

I care about her. Touhou is fun. My go to game series to play in short bursts.

She's still shit. Bu if it makes you feel any better, she's basically guaranteed to get in eventually, even if it's not in Ult, because they can only rummage through the bottom of the garbage can for so long.

I dont really care about them I just dont want literal memes like Undertale and Minecraft or a AT/Spirit for the sake of unexpectedness
that just leaves a bad taste for the whole DLC

I'll be fine with any of the following.
>Sora
>Travis
>Dante
>2B
>Phoenix
>Prince of All Cosmos
>Sans and Papyrus
>Astral Chain Cop
>Amaterasu
>Morrigan
>Any RE rep
Basically, I'm fine with just about anyone. Got my most wanted reps already.

>its the k rool trailer again but banjo is with the dk crew playing on a gameboy
>a pink egg bounces across the screen
>dk gets up and beats his chest
>kazooie pops k rools snot bubble waking him up and k rool looks at them menacingly
>kazooie pecks the gameboy and turns it off while banjo says "ohh!"
>they huddle around where the window used to be
>pic related

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When is Hines known for lying? If anything he's known for being a blunt asshole and says things he shouldn't as a PR guy.

Go back to your trash can, Oscar.

There's no discord shitposting for Reimu

Fucking this. Especially since iirc it started with Sans memes

Bowser Jr.'s was "Clowns the Competition"

>Banjofag
>Doesn't want an actually good character like Reimu
Yep checks out
Shantae can fuck off tho

Oh ok my bad then.
They should have kept this one for Sans memes, would be more accurate.

>doomguy is slowly becoming the newest top pick among the west now that banjo has been brought in

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That would be Isaac and Geno but they're deconfirmed.

who would pretend to be these two before they show up

let me grade this
>Sora
good fucking luck, if you think square is bad you have no idea what kind of ballbusting disney would do
>Travis, Dante, 2B, Phoenix, Prince of Cosmos, Sans, Amaterasu, Morrigan, RE Rep
Good
>Astral Chain Cop
no one wants them, they'd be a shill choice.

???

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Sans would just be "sans.", no puns for English or 参戦 for JP

Shantae has been going on for a long time. And I imagine that shovel knight got some niche because of its retro style.(undertale doesn't look retro, it's just indie pixel "art").

several characters are already but still have massive support, this DLC wave is meant to include characters who have no representation as was already said back in 12/8/2018

he has no chance, square enix is already hyperjewish about cloud, no clue on what they might do to butcher the hero, and with sora you'd add the layer of potentially using disney properties on him. if Sakurai includes him, it would be a miracle.

It's 100% because of the ballot. Touhou got nothing either.

we live in a fucking weird timeline

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Reimufags are really starting to get desperate. They actually think they have a chance.

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Quite shitposting with Shantae and trying to make another Stevefag debacle. Neither of you will get in.

Whichever waifubait gets in, we all lose.

Considering Steve is basically no chances as I doubt Nintendo would pull for a 5 max list 2 characters from the same company, the highest western is Shantae.

Link and Pichu

Fuck off sora/bandanafag

This, if not almost entirely for the insane stage/music potential, but I've seen some cute movesets for frisk.

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this
it looks like fucking garbage

People like to act like Shantae isn't something the west actually wants. She's like a lesser Banjo. A character who's popularity is fairly minimal outside of Smash but is still a very requested character within the fan base.

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Based Reimu falseflag

WHAT THE FUCK BROS HE STOLE DOOMGUYS INVITATION SOMEONE STOP HIM

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neither will that chinese pachinko machine characer, don't worry.

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this is Travis, he's your next dlc fighter, say something funky to him

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the hell is this from?

The rosterfag demographic is already taken by Banjo, Shantae is deconfirmed and she's not the priority when it comes to indies, at all.

Source Gaming's Top 50

>After Geno now fucking SHANTAE is making a comeback
End my suffering

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Well I don't expect her to get in Smash Ultimate

>she's not the priority when it comes to indies, at all.
Citation needed on Sakurai's indie priorities.

>DOOMcucks are so pathetic that they’re siding with literal (LITERAL) trannies from discord
Imagine that.
I can’t tell whose more pathetic you people or Phoenixfags.

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You mean that shit with like 8000 total votes?

He will definitely be out of place if he is

the recent Crash trilogy selling 10m+ is pretty fucking bonkers. It's amazing that fucker is now a genuinely big brand for Activision

How did the recent installments of all the other guests compare anyway? I think only FF15 is in the same ballpark?

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Weird how Mii costume dlc is kinda dead

I'm not talking about Sakurai's priorities, I'm talking about characters that are objectively more deserving

But user, he's not against Reimu, how is he siding with trannies?

>Out of place
>Bayonetta, Snake and Joker are in

It's like 9,000. But that doesn't really change the fact that Shantae is a constant presence on most big Smash online polls.

Honestly Sora has the most slim chance but
>he would be unexpected
>he is #1 requested by both regions so the demand is there
>Didney and Nomura are fine with it
>Sakurai personally likes his games
>Final Fantasy 7, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts are Squares 3 biggest cash cows
>music composer already works on Smash
>would come with FF spirits
>reveal would be at the end of the year when the Final mix comes out
>probably the only character I can see topping Banjo cause of how impossible yet popular he is
I dont expect him but I dont think hes out just yet until we get another datamine that says otherwise. but there's no rule that limits the amount of characters we can have like we've gotten two FE reps before so two characters people actually want from Square shouldn't hurt

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They just released a bunch with Joker

We'll most likely see more when Hero comes out

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>objectively more deserving
"I like this character" does not make a character objectively deserve a spot. In fact, the entire concept behind "deserving a spot" is bullshit made by people who want to feel better about the characters they like. Fuck off.

There is no objectivity in who is more deserving, it's literally just who Sakurai thinks fans want or who he wants. Even if objectivity was meant to be a factor, it's not like Sakurai follows that or else Banjo wouldn't have gotten in.

Yeah because she's a rosterfag pick and because these polls mostly get shared on twitter which is where she has the most supporters.
Outside of the smash community Shantae is Shovel Knight and Geno levels of nothing. There's absolutely no way in a trillion years she's getting in before Reimu or even other indie characters like Frisk.

Stop having hope for Sora. There's at least two leakers with great connections at SE and they would have leaked Sora if he was in.

It's not even Sakurai this time. It's Nintendo and they picked Joker and Banjo along with DQ.

Hm... where have I heard similar arguments before... OH WAIT!

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>"I like this character" does not make a character objectively deserve a spot
Does "her series have been around for longer and is still relevant and the character have consistently been more popular than the other, not to mention she also have better moveset material" work tho? Asking for a friend

Banjo was Nintendo's pick and he got in so rosterfags would buy the pass

Reimu is the most popular and beloved miko in the world, she'll be in for sure!

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Nigga Banjo was THE rosterfag pick, Shantae is more comparable to, like, Geno

>frisk over sans

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They dont know who the last two are and they got Erdrick wrong since it was Luminary and other protagonist as skins
the only real leaks seems to happen the exact day before

Can this reddit meme die already?

>Does "her series have been around for longer and is still relevant and the character have consistently been more popular than the other, not to mention she also have better moveset material" work tho?
No, because "deserving a spot" in Smash is just bogus. But that would be a reason Nintendo might be interested in her, yes.

>Shantae is more comparable to, like, Geno
The only thing differentiating Shantae from Banjo is how old they are and that boomers care about Banjo more. Shantae is consistently been within the top 5 of most large Smash polls.

They got their leaks from SE, not from Nintendo. He'll, even Vergeben was saying both Erdrick and Luminary, and he was the first person to speculate Erdrick/Luminary costumes all the way back in November.

Can somebody explain to me what "rosterfag" even means? Is it somebody who's a spreadsheet autist and only sees franchises as sales numbers? Is it someone who goes around spouting dumb bullshit like "objectively should" & "deserving" to be on the roster? Is it someone who just bandwagons the next leaked or most speculated characters? Or someone who cares about the "integrity" of the roster akin to someone who only stares at the CSS?

But at the very least Banjo was like, SOMEWHAT deserving. I mean sure Steve would have made more sense but Banjo was popular in the N64 days, even if he's a rosterfag pick there was still a logic behind them adding him. Shantae have literally nothing. Banjo getting in over other MS reps was already a special case because they wanted rosterfags to buy the pass. Don't expect the same to happen with even smaller character.

It's pretty obvious what it means, retard. It's just someone so incredibly obsessed over the roster, develops a fucking identity over their character and gets upset over characters they don't want making it in.

The word "hell" in Smash has been mentioned before so I could see this or "rip and tear" happening.

People who only want characters that are in the rosterfagging niche

People who cares more about the roster of Smash than the actual damn gameplay to the point of obsessive speculation

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>It's pretty obvious
>Yet I've seen people just call people rosterfags for simply wanting a character who just so happens to be frequently talked about
No, it really isn't retard. I've seen people get called "rosterfag" for no fucking reason and they aren't even sperging out about the roster, so there isn't any "universal" definition.

Is there a screencap, I dont remember him saying anything about Luminary or the other protags

>No, it really isn't retard.
Then you must have brain problems

so leaked

>SOMEWHAT deserving
According to who? What did Banjo do? Have popular game in the 90's another that sold worse and then shit going forward? "Deserving" doesn't exist in Smash selection, because if we were talking deserving then we would have gotten Steve or Master Chief as a Microsoft rep rather than the one who literally hasn't had a game in 11 years.

Shantae games are consistently highly rated and popular in terms of indie characters. She also has been around far longer than most other popular indie characters. In terms of indie representation she is deserving if we really want to act like that matters.

I also don't expect her to get in the Fighter Pass, but she she could just as well be a similar case to Banjo in the next Smash game.

>I have brain problems
>two anons below me have two different definitions.
Okay, retard.

We're talking about real leaks not fanfictions

>Sony property

yes yes yes

gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77344587?jumpto=48#48
this is the first time he went public on why he thought DQ was getting in
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/440886807/#440887673
this is a leak pm from Vergeben of names he's heard from SE staff
SE does that thing where they give fake rumors to employees to catch any leakers

Are you a rosterfag upset over people calling you names? lol get over yourself and your brain problems, rosterfag

Reimu have literally everything over her, she's even older and unlike Shantae she's actually popular
So at the very fucking least Reimu will get in over her

lol

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Reimu however has little in the way of global appeal. and Nintendo themselves have never seemed to show any real support for Touhou. She easily be a very interesting character but she definitely has some hurdle

Reimu isn't constantly requested among Smash fans, hell, she wasn't even a popular pick during Smash 4. The only reason Banjo was even a consideration was because Banjo was so highly requested, if not for that Sakurai wouldn't have even considered him. Unless Reimu has been on Sakurai's radar she's not getting in unless fans show they want her.

How have they did literally nothing to prevent this, I think Cloud was also leaked in advance
its crazy that he got it right and the fake names what the hell SE

>Reimu however has little in the way of global appeal
She's unironically more popular in the west than Shantae
>Nintendo themselves have never seemed to show any real support for Touhou
More than they did for Persona

>No argument
>Calls me a rosterfag for no reason
Next you'll say you were pretending to be retarded.

Nintendo just refuses to acknowledge the series. She has never even appeared on an Indies showcase.

>One rosterfag pick got in so all characters will be rosterfag picks
Fuck off. If anything Banjo will be the only rosterfag pick in the pass because this demographic is already taken.

Main reason is that I feel like another anime swordsman wouldn't go too well with the smash community. Now if he could use all of the crazy shit in his arsenal like Cerberus, Beowulf, etc. then I think he would be alright.

>Sora, Master Chief and Steve won't get in because I don't think each company will only get on rep on the pass
>Why is that?
>:^I

SE is just crazy incompetent when it comes to leaks. Even if they're one of the few companies that actually do give out leakbaits.

Because Touhou doesn't currently have a game on switch, even if AoCF is planned for future release. Of course they weren't going to advertize games that aren't on their system.

>this demographic
Why are you forcing the idea that rosterfaggotry is a demographic and that it will only get one character?

only a retarded rosterfag would be unable to comprehend what a rosterfag is and get irrationally angry over it lmao

Touhou had some Etrian Odyssey type game on Switch.

hol’ up
The protagonist from dqxi is actually in the game? I loved dqxi but I have absolutely no desire to play this dude.

Why are Steve and Master Chief crossed out?

It had fangames and yet those went unacknowledged. Face it. Nintendo gives no shits for it and will never EVER bring it up in a Nintendo direct or any kind of presentation.

Because muh "no company will get more than one fighter on the pass" bullshit people seem to be pushing for no reason.

>Calling you retarded is getting "irrationally angry"
Keep on projecting retard.

He has skins that let you play the protagonists from 3, 4 and 8. Also, each special opens up a menu that lets you pick from four different spells and he has an MP system

Because they literally said they were going to try and appeal to new demographics

Those are fangames, showing them would indirectly advertize the main series as they would have to give credit for the characters and setting

Maybe I am crazy but wasn't there a poll where Reimu scores higher than Porky?

>Because they literally said they were going to try and appeal to new demographics
Rosterfags are not a real demographic user. Hell, if they want a new demo, Shantae would appeal to Indiefags

>crash bandicot
>BANDICOT

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>Realistic wants
Doomguy
Crash
Monster Hunter
Rayman
>Unrealistic wants
Dante
KIRYU-CHAN
Travis Touchdown
>Never Ever wants
Hollow Knight
Quote
Reimu

Won't get my hopes up though, it would be a Nintendo move to have the biggest reveals first and then have two first party boring inclusions to top it off

lol.

>Rosterfags are not a real demographic
Yes they fucking are, they're the only people on this planet to still care about Geno and Shantae, that's a demographic
>Shantae would appeal to Indiefags
No lol. Maybe like, a small circle of indiefags that actually care only about indies in relation to Nintendo. But the majority of indiefags are japanese doujin fans, just saying. And even in the west Frisk or Cuphead would appeal to indiefags more than Shantae.

People think there is a character limit, sorta like the "2 characters for 3rd party only" rule that was broken. We've gotten two FE reps as DLC before Nintendo doesn't care, I'd kill for Kiryu or Chief

Because Microsoft choose who they wanted as representation. They can't just take all the slots.

>They can't just take all the slots.
Yeah, they can take one other slot while Namco gets one other slot. Every other company but them already has two characters in the game at least.

>Because Microsoft choose who they wanted as representation.
Are you fucking retarded? Nintendo picked the characters. And there's no reason for Microsoft to say no if Nintendo goes up to them ask asks for two or more characters.

rosterfags:
>spam this board with multiple smash roster threads every hour
>obsess over the same shortlist of "acceptable" characters while screeching at anyone who wants something different
>believe the smash roster is far more important than it actually is, to the point of expecting the industry to base their business decisions around it (for example: the months of persona 5 port-begging that followed joker's announcement)
>care more about the roster than the actual game
>overuse reddit-tier buzzwords like "reps" and "slots" in every post
>talk out of their ass about series they've never played because they don't want a certain character "wasting a slot" in their party game (this is especially rampant with kirby)
>come up with autistic "rules" to gatekeep the smash roster, even though they keep getting blown the fuck out
that pretty much sums it up.

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oh, how could i forget this part:
>believe every "leak" they see on the internet, no matter how bogus it is, as long as it has the characters they want

>believe every "leak" they see on the internet, no matter how bogus it is, as long as it has the characters they want
lol reminds me how Banjofags suddenly did a 180 on insiders before E3

I don't care who gets in, because I've always played Kirby since Day 1.

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i feel like this is very biased to genofags, find more material and maybe i'll listen

I don't know how Shantae gets so high on these lists but it makes me want to believe

it's why doomguy can have his biceps shown. He's super heavy and armored normally, but the weapon and armor are even heavier. Like science or some shit.

My brothers, fight the good fight against weaboos.

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that's one ugly drawing

>hating on the fact that we need more villains
Why wouldn’t you want villains in smash? They’re the coolest characters.

because of dumb shit like Porky or Fawful that people try to push

It’s not a good fight if the opposing side is just as bad.

stay mad Reimu cuck.

I'd be ok with Shantae in the game and don't really care for Touhou
that's still one ugly drawing

Sylux would be mad dope though

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All I know is definitely not Agumon, I feel bad for the one retard that repeatedly posts that

Faggot you have terrible taste. Both are fucking awesome characters, who would also make great fighters. What the fuck is wrong with you?

You're not a FEfag are you?

Porky and fawful would be some of the most unique fighters on the roster by a long shot. You have no leg tk stand on you mongoloid

>Porky and Fawful
>awesome characters
not everyone who dislikes shitty characters is part of your FE boogeyman lol

>either of those
>shitty
You’re in an infinite minority here. Reddit is that ways:

Dragonborn, Valut boy, and the fallout armor

porky would be boring as fuck when an obvious choice like giygas is right there. but realistically, mother already has a ton of content for a niche series that's been dead since 2006. asking for anything else is pushing it.

>Unironically defending those shitty characters

Well, I initially thought about just doing pepe and wojaks, but that's been overdone so I decided I should start drawing myself.

The important thing is that the message goes through. Reimu is never, EVER going to waste a character slot.

For the fourth pack, I legitimately expect Nintendo to bend the rules and have it be two fighters in one pack. Or, in other words, both Crash and Spyro.

As for the fifth pack, I expect them to go the controversial route, repeat what they did with Bayonetta in Smash 4, and have it be Tracer.

>The important thing is that the message goes through.
Hardly. Redraw the character next to Shantae because it doesn't look like Reimu at all, if that's what you were going for.

How is fucking GIYGAS obvious? Are you shitting me?

Mewtwo echo, should be obvious

They're shitty. If you disagree, you can go back to Porky is a shitty bandwagon character and Fawful is just a genuinely horrible lolsorandum character.

best timeline pass

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>durr, how is the main antagonist of two out of the three games obvious?

Giygas would also have the benefit of representing Mother 1 with a character and could be made into an easy Mewtwo Echo Fighter.

Yeah I know, that's just a sketch I did quick, also attempt to paint. trying to improve the first one I made also, even if it's just for shitposting and probably irrelevant in a few months. Reimu is not getting in, neither is Shantae, but these cucks sure keep trying.

None of those reasons have ANYTHING to do with how they'll play in smash. You know, and game solely about GAMEPLAY. They’re both extremely unique and would make great fighters. If you disagree, you’re a fucking rosterfag. You know, the thing you were whining about like a bitch to begin with?