How good is FFXIV really? Is it the best MMO on the market?

SE ethics department SEETHING
How fucking based is Yoshi P?

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Why is the blue mage a shitty joke solo class?

It actually is, but it's still a terrible game.

More like Incelbringers amrite?

Why does it feel so good finding that erp buddy into the same fucked up shit as you

more like casualbringers

It's not very good but it's the best MMO on the market.
Retail WoW is trash,, Classic is dead, ESO is shit and GW2 is f2p trash.

Give me shadowbringers SE

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entirely depends on how much you like JRPGs in general. the gameplay is good, but it takes a while to get to the meat of it. the bulk of your new player experience will be in the form of story and world building rather than interesting combat

it’s ok

Bump. Will they make it a regular class?

right after male viera and savage dungeons

If they had the ability to make it into a regular class, don't you think they would have done that in the first place?

WoW is the best on the market play that instead.

based. the only way XIV can hope to compete with 8.2 or WoW Classic is by releasing XIV Classic

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Yes, but you will always have the stupid nose to deal with.

Bait aside it always did rub me the wrong way how blizzard always released big patches/expansions around other mmo's patches and expansions. I know it's just business 101 but they're so big they have no need to just obliterate the competition.

That requires some amount of effort, and poor SE can barely afford to let viera and hrothgar wear glasses. Prease understand.

Ye.

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8.2 release is absolutely retarded and makes no sense, however. They have to be so far beyond their usual arrogance to think retail WoW can compete with anything at this point.

she cute

>an epic new content
You mean another fucking rep grind and then no raids for a few weeks? Yeah man that's some EPIC content!

at least dungeons will go faster now every tank has an AoE combo and no damage reduction and every melee has a buff-extending AoE combo right guys

Needs an Ascian mask.

fuck off you don't pay my sub

>...So we decided to make dungeons now 10 minutes longer.

yea but its just a decent game. its the best MMO on the marked just because the bar is set extremely low

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>and every melee has a buff-extending AoE combo right guys
Except DRG, because fuck DRG
-Yoshi-P

>Implying brainlets are going to AoE

? Is sonic thrust being deleted or something? Or just because it can't build eyes?

market*
fuck im doing so many typos today

You're a fucking retard.

It has no Dwarves. It is instantly a 2/10.

It doesn't extend Disembowel's damage buff.

well it still does because BotD is a buff

Lalafell are dwarves.

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Fuck off pedo.

except lalas are attractive compared to traditional dwarves

youtube.com/watch?v=knV-5VciTTQ

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New expansion has a tribe of NPC dwarves that are just the First shard's version of Lalafells

Lalafell are literally dwarves???

God I wanna be a lala girl

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Yes.

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Mmph.

Reported.
Not dwarves.
No. Not even close.
I'm not sure what your point is you fucking pedophile.

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absolutely based

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Sorry, but no. They look like ogres no matter what you do. But you can make a pretty convincing Shrek cosplay.

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>mention lalafells exist
>calls me a pedophile
The point is you're a fucking retard.

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>currently playing femroe since 2.0
>getting bored of looking the same
Should I swap to Viera or Hrothgar in 5.0? I play tanks and MCH.

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Is this your character user?
Do you have a discord if so...

>Business 101
This has never made sense to me. Why would you release your expansion pack/patch/whatever at the same time as another, more hyped up release? Why not wait until most of the players have finished the content in that and then launch it then? Thus giving people a nice injection of shit to do while they're the most bored.

Ignoring it's Blizzard, since other companies do the same thing.

Because a lalafell isn't a dwarf you fucking brainlet pedo.

Where's that WoW icon with the footballer in the lava?

Is XIV the ultimate normalfag filter?

>best mmo on the market
No. Dragon's dogma online and many other games exist.
>best mmo with a high enough population and availability to reasonably survive and for you to not waste time
Big yes. It has weak spots but in the grand scheme of things I'd say it's the best one around. Good raids, music, decent gameplay for an mmo. Decent community for casual play even with all the trannies and erpers on NA.

I swear to fucking god you absolute faggots get out of these threads for good and fuck off to /vg/.

Okay retard.

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Never been there, never will.

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>DDO
>MMO
It's about as much of an MMO as Guild Wars 1 was

In the past, it used to be annoying because WoW wasn't neckdeep in quicksand. Now, it's just pathetic. Focus on fixing your own game before you try fucking with others.

>do you like JRPGs?
>do you like tab-target combat?
>are you fine with a simple rpg system with not much depth in terms of character building?
>do you like big spectacle fights with good music?
>do you like having a shitton of fluff to do that won't impact endgame?
If you said yes to any number of these, then yeah it's probably the best.

If you want
>classes that aren't all the same
>dungeons that aren't hallways
>gear that isn't literal stat-sticks
>content that isn't predictaable and the same shit
Then XIV is not going to give you that. It's honestly just going to disappoint you.

Ehhh. More like hobbit/dwarf-goblins. Dunefolk have the jewishness of a warcraft goblin but otherwise yes. Plainsfolk are straight up hobbits. See them as a bit of dwarf and a bit of hobbit. On another world they're straight up dwarves.

Predictable* I need sleep

They aren't dwarves fucking retard.

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Based and reasonablepilled

>It's about as much of an MMO as Guild Wars 1 was
And that's a good thing.

No one plays XIV because it's an MMO. This is why parse fags can gonna suck this cock clean.

Who else knows the feel of changing their hud layout then attempting combat and playing like shit. Then you return to your ugly old hud.

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But if they do that I can't queue up for dungeons with my friends.

you're seething a bit user

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Pretty much sums it up. xiv is the most stable mmo with a decently high population on the market too. Not as likely to be hyper inventive and strike gold but also not as likely to straight up blow-up and die over one patch/expansion.

You mean skeleton. Very few things add new skeletons which is cost-saving as usual, but it also makes sense because they're proven by years of testing to not break.

Tolkien dwarves were based on jewish caricatures. They were insanely greedy and insular. XIVs lalafell, based on tarutaru, are a distinctly japanese take on dwarves. By definition, dwarfs are just small people.

tips.fbi.gov/
Fucking pedo. Reported.

GOD I want to be one

Go back to ResetERA

I actually don't know if he's serious

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The story and music is good but the gameplay content has gotten really stale. I feel like I will end up quitting after I complete the story unless they add new content that change up the formula

Okay M'uwu Tia.

It was pretty obvious he wasn't after the First's races edit

How do I get a gf like this?

Right? I stoppedd playing for a long while but keep listening to the music daily. Soken is a genius.

You're going to get another eureka and another raid that's just a series of instanced boss arenas and you're going to LIKE IT

Pedos aren't welcome here. 8ch is that way

I mean, I play it because my friends play it. I enjoy it for what it is, but I play other games if I actually want a proper RPG.

That being said, I fucking hate how they stripped away every RPG aspect of it
>cross class was simplified, then replaced with role actions
>except they got rid of those as well after gutting it because people complained instead of fixing it because half of the abilities were useless
>stat allocation is gone instead of properly separating SCH/SMN so they used different stat allocations
>elemental defenses are gone, including the neat effect which negated damage
>they got rid of most cc/unique abilities come 5.0
>can't even stack more of primary stats because they removed that materia
I'm waiting for them to start calling it an action game. Maybe then we'd get invuln frames and locked frames of movement on more actions so then I can see everyone complain that they can't slide halfway across the arena as they swing their xboxhuge sword

fuck you

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It's pretty easy. Just put on some fucking makeup.
Most faces in XIV actually look great, people are just used to anime shit.

Damn straight especially since they added most of the FF stuff to Spotify

>hurr lalafells existing makes you a pedophile

>The pedophile seethes when called out for his love of children with fat asses.

Is there anywhere that has a good download of that? I never have any luck finding game OSTs.

fuck off pedo

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Who's their primal going to be?

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Should I just fanta to a lalafell and make my submissive bottom EB deal with it

It's fun for a while, but it gets incredibly stale and formulaic rather quickly.

>Classes that aren't all the same.
NIN and BLM are pretty unique.

ur mum lol

excuse me but Lalafell are small adults

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Maudeen maybe

Big Chungus.

>This child is actually 30 years old!
Into the van with you.

>>classes that aren't all the same
I know it's a pretty common criticsm that you can't customize within a job at all but they have done a pretty good job of keeping different classes within the same role distinct

They share Titania with the Fairies.

Midget porn and fantasia to lalafell it is.

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the stubby tails mystify me, I guess cats tails get longer as they age.

Nice funposting, friend.

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Except for tanks and healers.

>All those moot points

Bro you should be on the dev team.

Fapping to game screenshots or erping is pretty pathetic desU

Another Ultima

there's a guy in my FC who is level 67 but actually still on the ARR story because he only ever does PVP. I would ask him if he needs help but he doesn't really understand english

What did Koji mean by this?

I guess I should've expanded that
>classes that have some form of customization involved
Like a skill tree or specs, or even having the cross class system. Each class is unique in how their rotation plays out, even though each of their general playstyles are pretty set in stone (casters all have a cast-bar, ranged are all instant, melee are all instant with combos). That being said, if you're looking for customization outside of how your character looks (and not even what spell effects you use, literally just how you look), then XIV is terrible. For example, I like sword/board classes - the only sword/board class in XIV that I can play is PLD. And I can only tank, and there's only one playstyle for me at 70 (Holy Spirit spam while building MP). It's not bad, but I personally don't like it.

If you want classes that are all balanced around each other, so you can just pick one you like to actually play instead of a class you like the look of/like to play, then XIV is honestly one of the best in the market for it.

but they are

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Just like you are for giving a shit what other people do with their time.

fucking based

I honestly wish it was just an action game so we didn't have to level/gear grind.

>How good is FFXIV really?
It's a steaming pile of buffalo shit glazed in acid ejaculation and put into the microwave for good measure.
>Is it the best MMO on the market?
Yes.

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Reminder that in her world, Lalas are called Dwarves and are considered a beast race rather than one of the spoken, so if Arbert were to do her, it would basically be taboo as shit.

Hnng, server?

Healers are the same in what they do when there's no healing to be done (DoTs, spammy damage spell, long cast time AoE nukes) , but you need your eyes checked if you think AST heals the same as WHM or SCH

>plays for the pvp
id be wary of attempting to engage with such a madman

He means that Arbert is going to be arrested at the end of the level 57 dungeon.

hot

It's pretty bad by MMO standards, actually. All the things that MMO fans love about MMORPGs are absent, except maybe player housing. Player housing is neat. The music is also good. Everything else is trash.

I think the biggest problem is that the game more or less plays itself. There's little to no thought required to play. All jobs/classes are incredibly straightforward; you don't have to think about choosing the right skills or the right stats, by endgame it's completely mindless and the rotations are so blatantly designed to be used in a specific way. Some of them are fun, but only for a little while before realising that you're just playing simon says with the devs. You're never encouraged to think about how to play or what to do, just do the rotation and follow the next quest arrow and get the higher iLvl gear like a zombie.
A close second is the world design. The world is barren, and once again, doesn't give you things to do. Maps, including overworld maps, are all hallways and bowls. Sometimes there's a beast tribe hub where you go to do dailies which involve more monotonous combat, but it's not common. As a result, the world feels incomplete. The game has gorgeous skyboxes, but they're just fucking skyboxes on the other side of invisible walls. I don't feel like I'm standing in Eorzea, I feel like I'm in a monster hallway in a video game. The best comparison to FFXIV's map/level design is FFXIII. Yeah, let that soak in. I'd even argue it's worse because FFXIV makes you go back more.
Personal gripe, but it's also annoying how simple the endgame raiding content is. I get that it's an MMO on consoles so they want all the content to be able to be completed using muscle memory and a youtube guide while high as balls, but it's REALLY simple shit.

Beast races are Spoken, though.

>maximum raid size is 8 fucking people

Holy cringe, you guys have no business looking down on anything.

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>lorelet

>Says the user who gives a shit about what other people think about other people doing things in their own time

Is racemixing looked down upon like on the first, I have a mind to racemix some lalas

24 players is the max size but all the hardest stuff is 8 players

>Viera and lala = small bunnies
Yes please

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You forgot to crop "attempts" out of your image so you can pretend your chart means anything

Who cares? I intend to leave a whole broods worth of bastard spawn on the First.

No. Never.

Halfbreeds are ostracized apparently

>>maximum raid size is 8 fucking people
Glad you are admitting to have never played the fucking game much less no anything about it retard.

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>There are 13 worlds
>FF14 has 13 titles before it
>13 was already destroyed by the Ascians
>FF13 was an absolute blunder

HOLY SHIT

Nobody knows

You can argue that they "don't matter", but that's because the dev team made them not matter. Just like how "dungeons are terrible, who cares about 4-man content" is such a shit counterargument to people wanting savage dungeons. Just because they're terrible because the dev team refuses to change up their formula for something better doesn't mean that's all that it needs to be.

Just like how BLM is now a Fire IV machine, instead of using all of the elements. Or how SMN just summons egis instead of having a demi version of each of the primals. Or why the overworld doesn't exist past level cap. That's a conscious design decision on the dev's part, and has solutions. But those solutions also bring up other problems.

NIN is only simon says if you're autistic and freak out about muh deeps. It's literally a class designed around fixing other party members' mistakes and working out what would be most effective for the next ten seconds rather than a straightforward rotation. And that's putting aside that you're acting like a fairly static skillset is somehow braindead when the only difference is that you don't wait a day for some turboautist to figure out the meta and then do it yourself.

Answer me lads

Whoever ostracizes my half lala daughter gets a claymore up their ass

>13 was already destroyed by the Ascians
Except no, it was consumed by a flood of darkness, that doesn't benefit the Ascians either. There was no rejoining of the 13th shard onto Hydaelyn. It's just lost.

There are fourteen worlds. The source is not counted in the thirteen.

Also the 13th was not destroyed. It is still very much there, just dark fucked. 7 others however HAVE been destroyed.

Who gives a shit? I will breed whoever I want and people will have to fucking deal with it because I'm the gods damned Warrior of Darkness.

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Based

youtube.com/watch?v=njYgggITz2g

user are you a freestyle NIN

There were Ronso and bunnies in FF1?

Just a reminder that all crossover events are canon.

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How does this even happen?
How can they call them both Primals when they can do this?

What do you expect from erptrannies? They gloat over their sizeable erp community yet all they do is pay 15 dollars a month (or wait for daddy to pay their sub) idle/have coitus over text on a glorified chatroom

>Warrior of Darkness
Sheeeit we finna BLACK the source

The thing about class customization is that if you're going to have different playstyles you might as well make them different classes and there's no difference. A game could have three classes with three build paths each, or it could have nine separate classes, and the actual gameplay would be the same.

Wish I had a daddy to pay my sub.
Miqo'te but I'll play any race you want if you pay for me.

I've been playing this game like this since HW, I sub until I play the story, clear the new dungeions once, enjoy the music and story, and get the fuck out once I'm done. Not interested in gear threadmill and other MMO antics, I don't have that kind of time anymore but I enjoy the story and music and the atmosphere.

>Did you know?

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learn what finna means you filthy mouthbreather

That's not a Ronso.

This, talents are a meme, they're designed with certain parameters in mind so the only thing you ever get is the proper/meta or meme garbabe that accomplishes nothing. Talents only give the illusion of choice. I'd rather have classes with distinctive playstyles and aesthetics than a bunch of dumb placebo garbage points.

Unironically start tanking. You have a low chance of playing with anybody but cowards, go do the big fucking pulls and survive via Holmgang, it's an amazing feeling.

BRUH

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it has basically no content. you level up, do the few dungeons, the few raids, and thats it. every single expansion follows this system and its intended by the devs to be played in short bursts

>Gosetsu comes and saves her from Zenos
Shame that we still had to murder her.

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Isn't Finna just Gonna because some fat nigga hit the f and i button instead of the g and o?

For content that matters? He's right. The game could, and should, have savage 24 mans. Most of the time spent on these raids is because of art assets - making and tuning savage versions would be a very good use of resources. You could make the gear from there drop 5-10 item levels higher than 8 man, or even just provide cosmetic rewards like mounts or their armour sets dyeable - which would be more than enough of a reason to make people run it.

As it stands, FFXIV is incapable of making proper challenging raid content because the small roster size means that all mechanics have a small pool of players to target which results in shit always hitting the same people every time, and makes every fight a dance - yes, even Ultimate. Ultimate itself is not difficult content, it is tedious. There is a reason why boss fights should not go above 10 minutes, and time has proven that any group of shitters can clear UCOB or UWU if they throw themselves at it long enough. Congrats, they just cleared a fight by pulling it half a thousand times so every single thing was just muscle memory.

he used it properly though
t. ebonics expert

Look it up yourself and then figure out why you're an illiterate retard.

This is something I don't get. The Void is lost and it can't be used.. so how the fuck do they plan to summon Zodiark? Wouldn't ANY world being unable to be used mean that the ritual is seriously fucked and at best he would reincarnate permanently gimped?

ELBST

If you think about it, we was meant to always have the 24 man raids before the 8 man savages, but CT was delayed from launch to 2.1 and they needed to push Coil out early to compensate but it was still broken mess.

We was meant to get a steady ilvl progression every patch instead of Highest ilvl then next patch only includes a lower ilvl gear. Making the 24man irrelevant for peoples mains.

Maybe the ascians are retards

It may be that they don't necessarily need all reflections to be absorbed for it to be possible for them to awaken Zodiark.

crit sam or sks sam in 5.x

Fixing to/gonna
Fixin/gonna
Finna

I really, really hope that they are part of NG+. I missed a ton.

no no NO NO NOOOO! DELETE THIS! DELETE THIS DELETE THIS FUCKING NOW DELETE DELETE DELETE IT!

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They aren't retard

Funny thing about this is that technically its working, at least for me. This is because all Blizz cares about right now is eeking out one more sub from people at a time, because thats roughly how long each of these patches last. I'm interested in dipping my feet in the social waters of FFXIV but I've been playing WoW with my work buddies for a little over a month and a half now and with the new update coming up I can't bring myself to commit to playing FF more seriously.

Though I look forward to burning through the 8.2 content in 2-3 weeks and relegating all time spent playing WoW to the weekends with friends to enjoy FFXIV throughout the week.

Yeah, it seems like an incredible waste of resources to not have savage alliance raids. BA proved that there is a desire for larger raiding even if it itself was not tackled well. As it stands for anybody that actually plays the game, Alliance raids are "one run and done" on their release unless you want the armour glamour or stuff for alts.

Fixing to comes from "Going to"
I still believe it was some dumb nigga who fat fingered.

META META META META META META

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He won't be at full power.

Which gives the WoL the opening he needs to defeat him.

>It's only ARTIFICIAL hard if it doesn't fit my arbitrary number of people playing it!
That's a real good argument there.

Anything more than 8 people for savage content is pushing it. 8 is already pushing it.

Did she want the WoL D?

>Helping 3 friends level more jobs while we wait for launch, 2 new 1 returning after a long time like I did
>Tanking Vault, leveling WAR so my first time through there as a tank
>WHM eats shit to the light orbs on the first boss
>DRG goes down quickly after, just me and the BLM
>Manage to survive for the last minute with just self healing, cooldowns, fishing a Max Potion out of my bag mid-fight, and Holmgang
>Switch to Deliverance during Holmgang and start shitting Fel Cleaves while hovering at 1 HP, while our BLM goes ham
>We finish the boss off the same second that I go down
It was a good feeling. Rest of the place went smoothly.

Whichever you find more fun. The difference between viable builds is negligible and only raidtrannies actually will give a shit man.

We need to find Ayumi Namae's secret /u/ stash.

Hilda is uglier than the regular Elezen

Greylet detected
Imagine celebrating being bad at a game

They don't need every shard. In fact they are only one away from waking Zodiark back up. One more calamity and we have a serious issue on our hands. You know, aside from the massive amount of death resulting from it.

>92 hours

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Yes, which is why the /gonna is added. It's the colloquial turning back in on itself. Now it's fixin'a, which became finna.

I live in Georgia, people were saying this in real life before it became an internet meme.

ye can you pay my sub

Its the best MMO you'll get since WOW decided to ruin and kill the genre by subjecting them to all adhere to the same shit.

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you have no idea how I fucking wish

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I don't think this particular point has been addressed yet in the story, but I think the fact that the Ascians are proceeding with the plan anyway despite knowing what happened to the 13th shard ables us to deduce that they don't actually need all the shards to rejoin with the source to be able to revive Zodiark, they only need enough of them to weaken Hydaelyn.
As for whether it affects the eventual power of Zodiark or not, we do not know at this point.

>They added fucking bunny and kimari race
>Still no Burmecians
Fuck you Yoshi. Suck my whole dick.

Only 66 hours of playable gametime left.
Get hustling, you bitches.

That may explain the urgency of saving the First.

wtf lalafells are cool?

Everyone's a WoLsexual.

Are there no MP tick timers for ACT anymore?
The plugins I could find are all extremely outdated (from around 2015) and don't work anymore

>XIV Classic
twitter.com/KZXcellent/status/1139918359296905216

Source on needing only 1 more? This isn't stated anywhere.

They could easily do it I think. It's not that encounter design is all that different beyond the occasional mechanic that requires groups to split up like Cerberus or Ozma

This. Gimme rats.
I don't even need them playable just give them to me so I can wear their cool raincoats.

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we got burmecians
not playable though :^^^^^^^^)

It's hard to say sometimes. We're so deep into ironic shitposting I don't think anyone knows anymore.

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Stupid question but will people still be doing the older raid questlines like Omega after ShB? I'm catching up and never got to do it.

No we don't.
We have meme mice.

It'll be in the Normal Raid Roulette and you can always clear it unsynched if you just want to get the story of it

Just beat my first primal. I’m enjoying the hell out of it desu

People are still doing Bahamut, man.

*Ahem*
Ladiezo and genturumen
I have an important announzumento
FUCK WOW
FUCK BRIZZAHD
AND FUCK ZA JANATAH
ARIGATO GOZAIMASU ENJOY SHADOWBRINGAH ON FRIDAY

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>people actually said it in real life
That's really dumb. Is it the same people who say AX instead of ask for "Can I ask you something" it is now "Can I AX u summin"

>shame
no it's not she's a horrible goddamn bitch

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>will people still be doing the older raid questlines like Alexander after SB?

When will someone make a HW private server.

When you'll understand 3.0 and 3.1 almost killed the game, faggot.

It would just end up being human girls with rat tails and ears. Maybe whiskers or something too. Probably painted on.

When you give me the fundings

I need to go finish Bahamut still
I started playing in the last 6 months of ARR and only got haldway through it before HW was out, and then didn't have time for MMOs anymore after the first couple months of HW.

Hopefully never considering how trash 3.0 was content wise.

I've mained a tank since 2.5 or so

Not my fault you're still seething that Pepsiman killed their static.

WEEKLY SCRIP CAP
FAVOURS

3.0 turned me off crafting/gathering for that entire expansion.

Totally I forgot that I made 5 different characters for the sake of stupid weekly scrips

Pepsiman and company were the only things that can redeem that shitty period of the game. Literally the WoD of XIV

gunchads ww@

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I feel it's the opposite, that you can't have challenging mechanics because we already have too many people. The difficulty tends to only exist because you have to rely on 7 other jokers to be in the right spot at the right time. Mechanics themselves are trivial when you realize you only need to be concerned about where YOU stand, but the odds are failure are multiplied exponentially when one other person can fuck the whole thing up. 24-mans are ultra simplistic for that reason. It's all based on probability, and adding more people doesn't actually increase the difficulty of personal execution, just the degree of total failure. And I think that's ultimately a formula for disaster in a game where players have little control over the flow of battle in the first place.

I think the 4-person avenue is worth exploring more, particularly because of the MH event. Dungeons may trivial as a base example, but I don't think they were ever utilized properly. As for multi-man raids themselves, I think 3 Light parties (12 players total) is much more manageable, while still maintaining multiple layers of role mechanics (Tank Swaps, Marker placement, etc).

im going to restore Ihgard!

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what is this pepsiman stuff I don't get it

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Anyone would common sense would skip right to making a 3.2 server anyway.

Meanwhile jap players are laughing at you meta autist.

A3S

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So is there a reason why rabbitgirl and furfag is the last playable character being added?

seems out of blue to say "these are the final final classes we are adding to the game"

Living Liquid is a giant soda man so everyone calls him Pepsiman

yoshi said the game will stop getting updated in 3-4 expansions

Pretty sure they're the last races in the setting unless we start getting playable beast tribes (not happening) or some goofy shit like Mammets

Isn't that plenty of time to add at least one new race?

I’m never going to play anything other than midlander anyways so it’s ok

Because they take a lot of effort to make.
Poor babies :(

Beast tribe race fills a niche. Viera had huge player demand. What else is there to add?

oh thanks I get it

It's not that it's easy, it's that the more people you add to further the fights leave your scope.
I'd rather light party savage than 24.

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Because of the way they make gear. Your character doesn't just 'put on' gear. The game literally switches out THE ENTIRE CHEST model of your character and puts in a new chest body part, but this time with the gear you like. This is how it works for all gear with FFXIV characters. So each time they add a new piece of gear, they have to model it for EVERY race with EVERY character customization. Now, they've streamlined it so it's not all done from scratch, but it's still a lot of work to add in all that old gear and the new gear that keeps on being added to new races.

it means they are in shutdown mode and won't invest more money than they already have spent for shadowbringers
all money is getting funneled for other projects

They've been perpetually understaffed apparently, Squeenix seems to be pushing more resources to 14 now that 15's development is finally dead though.
They've had a "NOW HIRING" banner on 14's JP website ever since Yoshi P took over.

>So is there a reason why rabbitgirl and furfag is the last playable character being added?
Because every piece of gear needs to be readjusted to fit on new models. The more player models you have the more gear models you have to create.

parse culture only works in wow, comes off really cringey when you ffkiddies try to play pretend with your "fflogs". nice meta of speedrunning tranny faggots kys

LOLI MIQOTE WHEN
YOSHIP
NOW

never, you can tank NA, california, and soccer moms

based conspiracy theorist retard

lmao yeah man developers just go around shutting down their games making tons of money

Good luck with that.

I'm fucking livid that it's going to require re-entering Diadem, but damn if that's going to stop me from restoring the Holy See and my home.

>They've been perpetually understaffed apparently
This makes sense since their main labor market is Japan whose overall population, not to mention its workforce population or video game tech workforce population, has been in decline since 2000. If you're a Western developer, you can literally pull talent from the entire world.

She was talking about the rejoinings before this, but never finished this sentence, but we can assume she is talking about the last calamity.

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thank*

More like you can thank degen modders and lewd twitter screenshot accounts that the dev team seems to be well aware about.

It's not like Westerners working for Japanese companies is unheard of, but I guess the language barrier causes a substantial entry requirement right off the bat.

Am I the only one who thinks Keb looks better than Kuro?

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>he really tries to justify being bad like this

Damn I want to teach her and khloe what true love is so bad

Tbh I like this game better than WoW because the gear and character models looks so much better

More effort than SE is willing to give the devs time and money for. All existing gear has to be redesigned whenever they introduce a new race, leading to the current situation where Viera and Hrothgar can't use most headgear, and unlockable hairstyles are unavailable to them.

>degen modders
You are missing the point here, the dev team doesnt give a fuck about lewd fanart since they are fully aware of it, but the reaction of the west with lalas. Want me to remind you the shitstorm that happened because discord thought lala porn was considered toddler porn? And let's not forget yoship exclusively said no to loli/younger races "due to ethical reasons" COUGHCOUGHFUCKINGNORMIESRUINNINGITFOREVERYBODYCOUGHCOUGH Or are you being delusional on purpose?

Do Japanese seriously don't know english or better, don't want to learn it?
I know they're isolationists but they're losing a lot

>U alright bro? Don't worry about that DPS check man, you'll make it

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If you're highly educated in tech in anyway anywhere on the face of the earth, you probably know SOME English or enough to get by. That makes it vastly easier for labor to move towards Western development studios rather than Japan's, though I imagine Japan is the second largest language knows in the video game development world, unless you count Chinese but China's kind of a closed market.

Blizz would've been smart to start working on WoW2 a few expansions ago to try and get out from under the weight of and old engine and years of questionable game design decisions

Play a Lala or min height Raen and pretend.

So it's not been outright stated that only 1 more is enough?

That sounds way too vague to me to confirm anything, although it would be weird for hooded cat dude to be so frantic about summoning us and our pals even when our hands are completely full trying to repel a Garlean invasion, if it was anything less urgent.

>3-4 expansions
any special reasons? or are they just going to be creating the same thing but something like FF20

Yes.
Please spend some time with poor people, you'll learn a lot about how they see the world and act.

I had way much more trouble with the transformer.

Its the other way around, you'd be expected to know Japanese to work full time in Japan for a Japanese company

Most Japanese children have been widely educated in reading and writing English for decades now. But they don't speak it well because who do they need to ever speak it with? And so that still makes it difficult as a non-Japanese speaker to work in Japan since English is a secondary language rather than the main one.

>sohm al
>drk mentor refuses to use CDs of any sort, is wearing ilvl 90 slaying accs, lvl 20 aetherial bracelet
>getting cleaved for 3/4ths of his hp
>"cooldowns please"
>"they're not on my bar, i don't main tank"
>kicked for "leering" because i stated he was wearing shit accessories

Why, why are tanks the biggest blubbering retards of them all? This guy is worse than the lvl 31 gladiator I got in haukke who only spammed fast blade, until right at the end where he used rage of halone, out of combo. Playing healer really opens your eyes to how bad some people are.

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I'm okay with this.

It's literally a worse version of nu-WoW that panders to jihadi-esque weebs.

>XIV-lets claim their game was more complex than WoW and even though it was never the case to begin with, the game only gets more and more simple with pruning reaching a peak in Shadowbringers
>XIV has the worst open world of any modern MMO and every piece of non-instanced content is grabage
>No need to group for anything outside of instanced content
>Leveling is absolutely fucked and requires you to do retarded shit like chaining dungeons or running Palace of the Dead instead of just letting you grind like an old school MMO or doing something modern and enjoyable like TESO, GW2, or even nu WoW
>Gear is absolutely atrocious with no unique effects or set bonuses, everything that you can equip is just a stat stick with no choice
>No gameplay customizability like Talents, Traits, ascensions or anything like that
>PvP is absolute shit
>Whenever you point this out, XIV-lets claim "It's supposed to be like a single-player game!" as they laud the story, even though it's worse than TESO's where literally everything in the game is fully voice acted and every single basic-bitch "kill 10 boars" quest has been replaced with actual CRPG styled side-quests

But look at my cute goth-loli lalafell or my swimsuit-clad cat-girl! the Game is good I swear!

XIVlets are unironically the worst community in gaming besides maybe, MAYBE Smash players. I'd befriend a fucking tiddy gacha player before an XIVlet.

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English is taught in schools but because Japan is so isolationist it's not like they're really encouraged to use it outside of a classroom environment.

Thank god Japan has never taken the globalism bait. You're a retard for not being able to correlate the high quality of Japanese video games with their refusal to open up.

At this point I just started playing tank in dungeons because I can't trust anyone else to tank.

With how long FF development takes these days it looks like every 3rd game is gonna be an MMO that lasts about 10 years

It’s pretty good but it’s got problems, the big one being an inordinate amount of single player content for a multiplayer game. Even if you’re willing to spend the time to catch up to the end game, you could also play multiple different other games instead that probably won’t waste your time as much. But if you’re dead set on playing an MMO, then this is likely the best one to do it. I did a review, if you’re interested:
youtu.be/9KZbjAmYRRQ

Also, the gameplay is getting a severe overhaul in the next expansion this Friday. Hopefully it’s gonna be for the better but I’m afraid that it’s going to get casualized even further for the most part, which is a bad move.

imagine unironically typing a 4k word essay for a veiled xiv thread lmaoing @ ur life

>jihadi-esque weebs.
the what now

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Ironically FFXI burned me out

I was planning on switching to black mage myself, but playing healer now makes me REALLY want to swap back.

>98% chance to gather
>failed

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>I did a review
Well, time to flag every one of your videos for infringement, retard shill.

Nice bait user

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Sure but that’s not saying much

How do you think AST will do in Shadowbringers? I haven't played it since HW but I might change to it from SCH as my side-job for dungeons and easier raids. The new spells at least looked cool visually.

Which data centre is this?
The other day i got world of darkness in a roulette and our alliance's healers (both Shiva Germans) refused to heal our tank under any circumstances
DF has been total shit these days

Currently it is, its killing WoW and with classic taking so long to come out, it will steam roll classic with people losing interest waiting for the full release.

>Heal in a dungeon
>Tank does baby pulls, isn't using cooldowns and/or spends all their time in tank stance
>DPS don't AoE

>Tank a dungeon
>Healer does 0 DPS
>DPS don't AoE

>DPS a dungeon
>Tank does baby pulls, isn't using cooldowns and/or spends all their time in tank stance
>Healer does 0 DPS

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>I did a review
OH NO NO NO NO advertising is forbidden user!

Burmecians.
Yukes.
Lilties.

The genius is these races can all be cobbled together from existing assets.

3/10 bait

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It's the same everywhere.

>Why, why are tanks the biggest blubbering retards of them all?
bruh he literally said he doesn't play tank
that's nothing. once I missed a 94% unspoiled collectible twice in a row.

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English doesn't exist as a professional language the same way it does in most of the developed world. They know it to some degree but foreign hires are still expected to be able to communicate in Japanese.

>No need to group for anything outside of instanced content
The saddest part is you do see people doing Fates solo. Even when you try invite them they decline. I honestly don't know what's wrong with people.

As well as it currently is.
It's still the only healer with flat damage up buffs.

Are we ever getting nodachis for sam

Thank fuck my cousin tanks basically full time and hates playing DPS, and he's usually around

I feel you man. I kind of agreed with the ability bloat early one but not everything had to go. I can’t believe they’re even getting rid of Protect.

I have one question for you since im not going to read all that shit.
In a situation when referring to your player character or player characters in general, what shorthand slang do you specifically use?

The subtext of my post that you seemed to miss is that races need a reason to be added.

>WoWfag seething
Your post is half absolute lies and half things that you say are bad that are actually good.
The only truth is that leveling is atrocious and I agree with you.

I'm retarded please tell me how to rotate tank cooldowns for trash pulls

Oh no a spell you click once at the start of the dungeon and never again. I hope you complained when they removed Shell and later Stoneskin too.

Just do whatever feels right.

All you do in wow is gear then gear then pvp to gear then gear some more.
At least in ffxiv you can do other shit.

fucking kill yourself for shilling your retarded video here

To advertise the expansion.
To say "look, new dolls, don't you want this, isn't it cool?"
AKA, same reason they added the Au Ra, but with 1/5 as much actual work. Lilites are literally just different heads/hair for Lalafell.

Leveling is easier than any other MMO I've played though. Literally play any dungeon once or twice to get a level and after 2 or 3 levels you're off to the next one. Combine that with roulettes for a guaranted 2 or more levels a day.

Just pull everything and use them one after one wears off. It's not fucking hard.

A DRK can also make use of TBN and WAR wants to use Vengeance with IR since it makes all the counter attacks DH Crit too.

Press one, when that ends press another. Or don't if your dps is good.

Someone isnt a normie for thinking Lalas are weird.

Asmongold literally said classic will be dead because its taking too long to come out and people are already fucking back off to private

Easier doesn't mean it isn't torturing. But I'm biased, I hate leveling in any kind of MMO right now.
I just played too many RPGs and MMOs I guess.

Head pieces for Viera.

What's the best armor for larping as a SAM with DRK

You'll be able to rotate rampart + convalescence with your stronger damage reduction for most pulls

be ready for Edmont to die of an undisclosed japanese disease about halfway through the restoration

user we’d stop doing baby pulls if everyone wasn’t so shit at this game and the healers could actually be relied on

> the shitstorm that happened because discord thought lala porn was considered toddler porn?
Can you even use this as justification considering they were banning that but babyfur was okay to them? Furries are fucking hypocrites.

Your parry and "can't be crit" cooldowns get exponentially stronger the more mobs there are on you

Genji fending set with Odenta.
There's no other option.

Same. I get that Viera are in since they’ve always been popular, but Hrothgar has been a big and stupid surprise. I’m still upset that we go these dumb dragon/people race and no Burmecian. At least Azime Steepe is fucking cool.

Actually, he has points.

>XIV-lets claim their game was more complex than WoW and even though it was never the case to begin with, the game only gets more and more simple with pruning reaching a peak in Shadowbringers
From a shear gameplay standpoint, this is correct. You might argue WoW has simpler rotations, but they play faster, have more to react to, aren't static in a lot of cases, and raids are more chaotic.
>XIV has the worst open world of any modern MMO and every piece of non-instanced content is grabage
True. Loading screens behind every zone make the world feel disjointed, and there's no world content except hunts.
>No need to group for anything outside of instanced content
True, you can get full credit on aforementioned hunts by playing tank without a group.
>Leveling is absolutely fucked
True, the fact you can hit a "level gate" in the MSQ is very frustrating.
>Gear is absolutely atrocious with no unique effects or set bonuses, everything that you can equip is just a stat stick with no choice
The worst part is that set bonuses exist on GC gear, but are never made a point of. I'll play the same every patch of every tier in FFXIV, but even like a trinket or set bonus can change how I play in WoW.
>No gameplay customizability like Talents, Traits, ascensions or anything like that
Game doesn't need it, but interesting gear could allow customization.
>PvP is absolute shit
Worst PvP I've ever played in an MMO. 3 player BGs will always end the same way, and the netcode is horrendous - there's no counterplay and it's all just hoping you can surprise and outburst a healer.

FFXIV's strengths are in its side content and presentation though, as someone who played both WoW and FFXIV since launch.

>Pedo screeching that people find his degeneracy disgusting

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Probably more than 10 years simply because the MMO genre has a very high barrier to entry and it's also very uncompetitive. There's only WoW and FFXIV in the subscription based MMO market and a bunch of other B2P/F2P ones. With WoW still going relatively strong 15 years after launch, I would say FFXIV's life span, especially with the 3-4 expansion estimate, puts it at up to 16 years until it hits maintenance. That means a new FF MMO might not release until the 12th or 14th year of the old FF MMO.

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>Tfw so many retards will be playing GNB
>None of them have probably played FF8
>Worst yet a lot of them have and think 8 is actually good
I Just want to use the fucking weapon. Well atleast it isnt a dps class and scare alot of losers away.

>MY TWITCH STREAMER SAID--
kill yourself my man

Is it worth playing mechanist now just to see how radically different the job is in 5.0? Cause i'm definitely interested in the latter iteration

I guess it would get tedious if you were leveling classes just for the sake of leveling but if you only do it for stuff you actually want to play it takes no time at all to hit the cap. Especially for the classes that start at 50 and up.

genji looks bad on female au ra, most armored stuff looks bad on females, are there no robes?

A CHICKEN TENDERRRR

Fucking sohm al.
I love the place for its armor, the chocobo hunter/viking gear is top notch and I have every set, but god help you with randoms against the boss.
The meteor drops that hit everybody but the tank when you have people that have never encountered the mechanic is just rough. Anytime I get that dungeon randomly I expect to wipe against the boss if I see a leaf.

Then you can settle for Yanxian Merchant's Haori.

Odenta with Yanxian Merchant's Haori for the casual kimono samurai look.

why the fuck is it taking so long anyway, jesus christ
blizzard legitimately deserve to die as a company they're so incompetent

>playing the tranny self-insert
oof

I just want some more weird shit in the game at all, and I'm only asking for old stuff because their idea of new stuff is "put a wolf head on a hyur."
Put some Qus in as a beast race or something. Have a Burmecia analogue somewhere, I don't know. Shove some Yukes in a distant corner of Ilsabard. Something, anything interesting, I don't give a fuck.

I'll see what boots go with it, thanks

>90% chance to gather
>miss!
>miss!
>miss!
>NQ hit
>You finish mining.

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what does not having played a different FF game have to do with playing a certain job?

>fem au ra
>DRK
>SAM
jesus christ

just retards trying to gatekeep

Holy shit, is Hildy threatening to cuck Yojimbo?

RISE

INTO THE BUTTHOOOOLE

Nothing, it's all about gatekeeping and feeling elitist.

>15 year old game that's already been made
>Taking an year longer than an expansion with actual new content
What the fuck is wrong with Blizzard

I've played a bit of healer along with DPS and but still can't tell if someone is bad unless DPS regularly steals enmity from them or something, hopefully once I start on WAR or DRK this becomes more obvious

fuck you it's the most underage looking race that's not lala so I have no other choice

>"I've never been inside an Ultimate!"

>raids are more chaotic
IMO this is a bad point. It's not fun wiping in WoW because too many of your healers had to deal with an ability, and clearing a fight can sometimes mean "Those few idiots werent targetted this time round". At least in FF everyone has to contribute and it's not down to RNG.

>True, you can get full credit on aforementioned hunts by playing tank without a group.
Bit of a stretch

>trinket or set bonus can change how I play in WoW
Again I think this one is mixed. Talking about Legion for example, if you got a shit legendary first time you were fucked, and you just fell behind for no reason other than luck. It's less now with Azerite traits but it's still really broken. WoWs gearing at the moment rewards luck far too much, and getting unlucky means you're doing shit compared to others. That's just not a good thing.

I think some other things like loading zones don't matter but I think that's more down to the person. Everyone I know teleports everywhere so you'd get loading screens anyway.

If you don't see one of their mitigation buffs up on trash most of the time they're probably not doing their job right

If DPS steals enmity from tank, then it's the tank who sucks.

Stoneskin had an actual gameplay element to it since it worked as shields you can apply in combat.

You think it's worth keeping in one spell for one fight? It's not. Also you didn't mention whether you cared about Shell or not?

>most underage looking
You know you don't have to roleplay as your irl self, right?

What do you mean loading in the open world?

Pretty much.

Pretty fucking much.

PRETTY GODDAMN FUCKING MUCH, FUCK! Playing this game solo is a sanity test in patience, and especially considering how easy the game is, goddamn it.

>no talents

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Not the same guy, I've been inside an Ultimate and everything he said is still valid and factual.

What now?

He's just pretending to be retarded. I hope. Hard to tell these days.
>none of them will have experienced the greatest FF soundtrack
Fuck that's depressing

But I'm not a little girl irl what the fuck are you on

youtube.com/watch?v=dVIjRv5RuDs

COPE WoW fags
"its just a beta it would be empty"
LOL

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>and especially considering how easy the game is
I would think it's retarded baby easy. But then you get grouped with French, and you start doubting it.

based

Stoneskin was great though, why wouldn't you want it?

Sounds like my average run on crystal

>customization
Too bad that unless you're very bad at the game and/or want to get carried you'll always want X talents and X trinkets and whatever to deal the maximum amount of DPS/healing you can, so customization is absolutely worthless in this kind of games. In comparison XIV is the most balanced MMO I ever seen, literally no one kicks you from parties from using X class unless you're aiming for World first clears or some shit. While on WoW sometimes you can't use entire CLASSES for 1-2 patch cycles because they deal less than 70% damage than other ones. Why neither of you talked about this? It's the absolutely worst thing about WoW.
>raids are more chaotic
Yeah that's why DeadlyModBoss exist to literally tell you how to do every single mechanic. So no, raids are not that chaotic.
>rotations
Yeah true "faster GCD" means that pressing 3 buttons non-stop is harder than pressing 30 of them in a specific order than, apparently, 95% of the times people can't even get right.

If I remember right it just wasn't mana efficient at all and realistically wasn't needed. I'm sure before they did eventually take it away they stopped you doing it in combat but I might just be remembering incorrectly. Either way, it never really had much wider use than "Press before boss pull". You could do it but why would you?

SEETHE games dead and people lost interest, go cry more, FFXIV is the new king and here to stay

ability bloat, too many buttons to press, it might overload the poor WHM's mental capacity

prease understand

playing dungeons without internal release is suffering

For years I've been sprinting as soon as Protect completes and pulling wall-to-wall. The number of times healers have failed at this is less than 10. This isn't because they're more skilled than you think, healing is just outrageously overpowered.

You can't make "Classic WoW" in a retail setting, it doesn't work.

A worrying amount of dungeon roulette runs come down to me and the tank desperately trying to kill the boss with ~40% left to go.
And the other DPS is always some rangecuck who manages to eat every mechanic despite playing a role that literally ignores mechanics because they don't need to stuff their nose up the boss's ass to kill it.

>How is this game?
>Here’s my brief opinion, plus a longer piece if you’re interested
>get called out for advertisement
Is that how it works? I hardly even have any subscribers or views and I know I never will. I just want to make reviews and recommendations.

>bara.png
Get off Yea Forums and actually play the game, the FC is basically dead.

>muh buff I set and forget

>unless you're aiming for World first clears or some shit.
Not even then. Some world first party had a DRK iirc, and when asked why he said he just liked playing it.

Nobody gives a fuck.

I think how it was sucked. I'd prefer it as a cooldown but as it was it sucked. And like this guy says WHM is the healer class for the mentally deficient so you can't have that many buttons.

>play and learn new class
>now can't ignore when other players are being retarded, like an ACN that never Aetherflows, or use their DoTs, or DPS that never AoE
I almost want to go back

The only good tank is you, and maybe that one fucking badass decked out in Kojin armor.
No exceptions.

HOW DARE SOMEONE PLAY BECAUSE THEY LIKE A JOB

its shit, the only people who like it are ERPers and people who are fans of final fantasy regardless if its a phone game or a WoW clone.

Don't post it on Yea Forums. Your name is Anonymous for a reason.

>EU wow is mixed
No french, german, uk servers = not the orginial classic, period, classic is dead on release.

Why should I play this game over Classic WoW?

Hell, why play it over BfA?

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It works the following way:
You either say what you fucking have to say or shut the fuck up, you are not shilling your retarded channel and retarded video here.

>Internal Release
But you get that at level 10, and it's just a crit buff.

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>WHM is the healer class for the mentally deficient
you have 4 buttons for ast, that's less than WHM
AST dps "rotation" is the most stupid thing to ever exist

More like "how the fuck do we bind this much shit to a controller"?
It's probably the main reason why they never go above 3 action bars worth of shit

Don't you need an active WoW sub to play the Classic beta? Maybe their sub expired and they just never renewed. Blizzard is pretty stupid to demand $15 per month to play a 15 year old version of the game. Private servers do it for free and even other official old school MMOs like OSRS have a F2P option.

You hated WHM's one and only shield?
It's KINDA moot now Benis exists but it's on a CD.

Stoneskin was absolutely mandatory for a lot of tankbusters during ARR progression, you simply didn't have enough CDs frequently enough to make everything survivable with just Adlo.
Still had some utility in HW, but by then the extended toolkits made extremely hard hitting tank busters less of a threat and fights changed to more frequently occuring consistently high damage, so while it lost some of its value for healers PLD still had lots of application for it via cross-class.

Confirmed for not only never even attempting to play AST, ever, you were too lazy to even read up on what abilities AST have.

I hate when people bring this up. Nobody ever claimed you can't finish content on any job. It doesn't matter if its world first either. That doesn't negate a meta existing. Had the guy played a better tank they probably could have done it even faster. But they didn't need to.

>ability bloat, too many buttons to press, it might overload the poor WHM's mental capacity
I don't follow. Only job I've seen bitching over E4E, protect, and other things are SCH mains, sometimes AST mains too because they hate to use those actions

No.

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AST DPS is called Balance and proper Star usage.

use your big boys first while the pack is at its healthiest, smaller cds while waiting on the stronger stuff to come back

to this day I don't think I'll ever truly understand what inspires people to not even hit defensive cooldowns or aoe buttons

shit I don't even care if you're inefficient it's just super fucking strange coming from the wowfugee background and see people completely neglect it entirely

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mash

Yeah man, it’s fucking absurd. If I had at least a couple of friends to play the game with then it wouldn’t be so bad but it’s so anti-conducive to co-op play. You either rush through the story and turn progression into a chore, or everyone goes at their own pace and only does the multiplayer content once every five hours. I’m hoping that Casualbringers ends up being the nail in the coffin for me because I’ve about had enough of this shit.

Actually good story
Better music
Gear and races look better
Better visuals
That’s why I’m enjoying it so far at least

>another endless raid simulator
why do MMOs even bother making an open world these days

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BFA or FF14?

Stay there.

I need advice Yea Forums. I wanna start leveling a tank now that I have a healer and DPS at 70 but I'm a brainlet. I like the look and style of DRK but it might be too complicated for a WHM main such as myself.
Does DRK demand an actual precise rotation because if so I might just level PLD instead.

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The point is that meta doesn't need to exist when not even world firsters care.
It's pointless to obsess over meta in this game is the point. I'm sorry you're too stupid to get this, but that's your problem.

Fuck off shill.

Simply put: it's only the best because everything else is shit. It's like being the least offensive piece of trash in the garbage heap.

because the game doesn't really punish you for not popping CDs in trash pulls and the community is way too hesitant to call it out
i make a habit to give sprouts some tips if they're visibly struggling or using shit gear but sometimes people just go full on defensive and call you an elitist; it's the hugbox mentality that brought this about

i know i have a bad habit of not using cooldowns because i think i may need it for later.. and then it turns out i wouldn't need it then either. I think its my experience with EQ1 that fucked with me there, since buttons could have legitimately 72 min cooldowns over there.

proper star usage meaning wait at least 10 secs?

There is a difference between a meta (which will always happen in any group based game), and "this spec is WORTHLESS right now" like what happens so often in WoW and other MMOs. Like christ, remember how Survival Hunter used to be? Subtlety Rogue outside of PVP? Ret Paladins?

DRK is becoming ultra braindead once the expansion drops, so no worries there. Besides, it's fucking tanking. Tanking in this game is a fucking joke.

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Tanking in this game is fun user

>open world
Personally I don't give a fuck, I seriously don't understand why people screech so hard to "muh loading screens". The only time they get annoying is in cities like Limsa where the city is splitted in two thanks to the fucking PS3 limitations. Open world content is worthless to me too, and I learnt this from GW2. Open world content is always baby-tier level and so, in my eyes, an absolute waste of resources. Everything of this was my personal opinion but all of you who praise Open World content are either people who never put a step in difficult content in any game, which is the FUN content, or simply didn't play GW2 enough.

Also I don't get it, everything you listed as bad in XIV is 1000 times worse on WoW. So you're saying WoW is the worst MMO on the market? Well you're right. It's dying in fact, how peculiar.

>its a "DRG that never AoE's" episode
WHYYY

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It has the most interesting AoE rotation right now but it'll be braindead in 4 days don't worry about it.

People are generally horrible at this game and have no idea what's going on. Some BRD asked for help the other day saying they think their barrage usage was wrong, turned out they had about 70% uptime on dots.

The meta doesn't need to be practiced by world firsters because they are so good they don't need it. Meta helps midtier players get past certain barriers by statistically being the best setup. Obviously godly players don't need to strictly follow the meta to succeed.

PLD completely unironically has a higher skillceiling than DRK.Significantly lower skillfloor though for sure.
DRK takes some getting used to to play at a really basic level since no other job really builds and spends resources in a similar way. Once you have a solid grasp of that you are already pretty much golden though.

Keep in mind that in 4 days DRK will become basically braindead and easier to play than even WAR, so putting the effort in to learn it now is probably not really the wisest use of your time

I don't even like WoW, but the way they fucking cling to assmunchgold is sad as fuck. I'm glad FFXIV doesn't have the same streamer cancer everywhere else does yet, it's only a matter of time even though Mr Happy is trying his fucking hardest to be relevant

DRG has an AOE?

Pretty much nobody says this "This job is entirely worthless" shit outside of Yea Forums and /vg/. In reality very few groups ever restrict certain jobs and typically they're a huge red flag.

Which tank will to the least and most aoe damage

It's the least bad mmo on the market

Stay there 8.2 is coming out and the servers here are too full right now.

Why are people so jealous of Mr.Happy? Is it because he attended the media tour or because I talk to Yoshida regularly?

SAM AoE looks so satisfying, especially after a Hagakure and you've got full bar to just spam your OGCD like a mad cunt. Shame it's not a thing anymore, but the ghetto version we're getting along with the removal of TP more than makes up for it.

I kinda of want to play until Classic WOW. Is Blue Mage in the game? They were fun in FF11

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There's actually a bit of open world content in XIV.

>Maps
>Sight log
>Hunts
>Unique Fates

I think what people really refer to is communication. Players feel if they're not directly communicating with others, it's not great content.

In dungeons I usually save them for the boss if we're getting close. Use them if we're not.

>you gain nothing from doing that
I know, but I prefer doing a boss with my cooldowns available. Sue me.

That and using it on CD in the correct locations. AST is big brain compared to WHM but not for the reason most shitters think.

We don't talk about Blue Mage.

>I

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fuck off we're full.

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It's funny, because the people continously bringing this up have no idea what they are even talking about and completely missing the point.
Both PLD and DRK are pretty equally viable for UCoB, the encounter in question. PLD offers better survivability on Twin, Nael, and the Duet, while DRK gets you considerably higher damage due to how the fight lines up and slightly better personal mitigation during Golden.
What makes it matter even less is that numbers were and are never a fucking issue in UCoB. If you are somewhat compentent that is. It's 99% a mechanics fight, so your group comp barely matters past a certain point.

HOW OUR HEARTS SING IN THE CHAOS

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I was saying that as it applied to other MMOs, not 14

Call me when it 20$

The boss is the least threatening part of any dungeon. Your cooldowns have far more value on trash.

>because I talk to Yoshida regularly?
I like your baiting style.

Well to create a group for Maps, for example, you have to create a Party Finder and interact a little with people. Every time I join a group for maps with strangers they always talk a lot and I talk too.

People is just lazy or just want to miscredit XIV because they don't like it and don't understand why it's popular.

>Remove Johnny Cash AoE because retards spammed it instead of the higher potency AoE
>Retards now just no longer AoE
It even has a combo now, read you're tooltips.

Honestly I'd say world is the weakest aspect of ffxiv. The whole thing feels very disconnected. Probably because it is. If you open the world map you'll see the areas we get to see are like little pockets of playable regions inside the world map. Going from one area to another just feels like crossing instances it doesn't really feel like you're traversing a world.

*Transfer to your shithole*

>or because I talk to Yoshida regularly
Fuck off MrBrappy, don't you have a static to search for?

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probably critical, 4.x was about kenki per second, 5.x is about midare spam

Why is ninja so much more fun than other classes?

Fuck you nigger, it look lame as hell, i rather die than using it.
You don't pay my fucking sub tranny

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It has to do with the fact your a fucking wowfugee fucking poser edgelord who sucks at there role.

I'll have you know i've mastered the gunblade in Dissidia NT and can nail every JUST input and I've collected every triple triad card in FF8. You faggots will make me look bad.

It's not about what's threatening, it's about having more fun by doing a boss when I actually have my tools at my disposal. It's a dungeon for fuck's sake, nothing is threatening.

If we're approaching the boss I WILL hold on to my cooldowns.

>I think what people really refer to is communication. Players feel if they're not directly communicating with others, it's not great content.

There was content like that and discord babbies kept reporting everyone not in their club for trolling if they tried to do it.

afk mobile games are better than this piece of trash

This game is boring as shit. You must have brain damage or some form of autism to find it engaging in any way.

Traversal isn't what you want. You want exploration.
But you can't recreate the explorative feeling that offline games have in an MMO.

They aren't obliterating anything with their games anymore.

Meant to reply to

The amount of loading screens certainly ruins the feeling of a true game world. That and an incredibly fast day/night cycle.

The best MMO is still EVE online, despite going to seed, is still the only one that still emphasizes player interaction as the core of the gameplay, rather than just raising numbers in a database.

What is your favorite video game made in the last 15 years user

Have you ever played WoW?
In the beginning of Legion if you played any spec of Warlocks you couldn't join a damn single party without getting insulted and kicked from the group.
It's not Yea Forums or /vg/, it's the absolutely terrible community that does that.
And to be fair, they're right. They're not at fault. Why would you accept in your group an absolute piece of garbage deadweight class? The fault is on Blizzard for being absolutely stupid idiots at balancing the game.

nice bait, but its because he's helped cultivate a culture within the game where you aren't allowed to learn game mechanics, instead you must regurgitate shit that mrhappy or some other retard online spouts. from the "Skip Soar or bust" crowd during HW to the abysmal mrhappy Tsukiyomi strats, it makes the content actually worse than if people were just trying to learn on their own.

*talks about your game while idling in orgrimmar*

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Just change to PvP style combat instead of removing more things every expansion. GIVE ME BACK AION COMBO SYSTEM.

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Expansion zones are shit and flying removes any sense of scale they could have had, never mind how unnaturally square they all feel.

If you actually pay attention in ARR zones, despite them being segmented you can often see landmarks from the adjacent zones, which gives them a great sense of scale. La Noscea is best example of this.

This is the next problem: Players THINK they want all this shit, but when you implement it, it all falls apart because, as always, people go for the optimal path.

Nigger, by the time you need that cooldown on a bossfight it will have refreshed anyway even if you used them all on the last pack. People tend to overestimate how long those cooldowns actually are.

Depends on your definition of "in the game".
Yes, it is, but you can't do anything above level 50 with it, and you can't use the duty finder.

>Traversal isn't what you want.
It helps give a feeling you're playing in a world, so it is important to me. That feeling is one I don't have in XIV for regions I already explained. It is probably my sole complaint with what is my favorite MMO.

Is there any way to put chat bubbles above player's heads when using /say or party chat? Having none really makes the game feel silent, like every player is a mute.

You don't need to justify why you're a shitter, user. I already know.

Why not?

>No one talks to each other in this game
What this actually means is
>I'm too socially awkward to say hi to anyone so they should say hi to me but they don't

>Needing this game to be even more easy

Stop.

>Remove Johnny Cash AoE because retards spammed it instead of the higher potency AoE
Man I don't think I ever saw anyone use Doom Spike. Barely do even now

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>But you can't recreate the explorative feeling that offline games have in an MMO
Boy, I sure wonder why people rave about earlier MMOs and their explorative feeling and wish that would come back. It's such a shame that this concept was never done before.

>only do dungeons with friend(s)
>everytime we get a shitter we vote kick him for Harassment
>it works everytime

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>La Noscea is best example of this.
The one I always noticed was how you could see Uldah in the horizon from camp drybone. What's the La Noscea one you're referring to?

>easy
You're still pressing button X amount of time, but it's freeing up bloatness without removing skills.

>People already excluding jobs from their static recruitment based on fucking preview builds
The absolute state, willing to bet these groups won't even clear the raid tier before the catch up patch

based god yoshi p man. i'd follow him and square enix into the ends of the earth i swear it *opens wallet* JUST TAKE MY MONEY KINZSZ!!!!!!!!!!!11!!

Moving combos into one button frees up space to include more short cooldown skills in their place.

What are the most fun classes in 24? Gunbreaker any good?

LIGHT PARTY
>hi
>hi
>hey
>tybb
>thx

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Its only level 50 24mans, but spamming it with my DRK has really showed me how a tank can fuck up. Tank stance spamming enmity combos, DPS stance spamming enmity combos, no cooldowns. It really opened my eye to how much I forgot could go wrong.

wouldnt surprise me. most of those types of statics break up the moment someone has to go out of town or the moment they hit any kind of wall.

>o/
>o/
>HEYA
>oops sorry caps

No, what they really mean is that they remember in FFXI and Classic WoW, there were multiple situations all the time where talking to others natually presented themselves, like encountering difficult quests, enemies, talking during dungeons, trying to organize a party, etc.
In this game, you don't need to do that and even if you said "hi", you would be a weirdo.

Fuck off tranny shill

If this game is so good and modern why does it have PS3 graphics and a 10 year old launcher? Don't even call this an MMO its a fucking console port. Shame on all of you shills tricking PC gamers.

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La Noscea fits together pretty snug, so you can even see the Pharos Sirius from Camp Bronze Lake, for instance.

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what the fuck is aion?

fuck off, if you want to be in voice chat with a bunch of retards you only half know and wait for them to figure out mechanics you mastered 50 pulls ago, questioning why they get invited before remembering that it's just to pad out the arbitrary 20 man raid requirement, wow already exists for you.

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who cares about the launcher you fucking geek

No it doesn't and you know it doesn't, all it does is make every combo dull to press.

Free up button bloat by consolidating oGCDs not GCD combos, like the verflare verholy thing and fell cleave and inner release.
There is no logistical reason to fuck with the GCD besides to make it easier.

How about you actually play the game before you shit on it user?

Hope you're not a WoWfag because it would be pretty embarassing calling other games "outdated"

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People who specifically exclude certain jobs for no reason other than "muh meta" are usually shitters that can't even make use of the meta comp properly

to be fair the expansion zones are supposed to be really far away from each other, you don't walk from the ruby sea straight into the azim steppe

To illustrate:

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>"Ah man look at that catgirl, this game is looking pretty weeb"
>*Idles in bootleg asia with Panda characters running around him*
>"Look at that robot chicken, that looks stupid in a fantasy game"
>*Lil zoom riding in the background on a mechastrider shouting "ASMON!!!!!"
>"Oh look at the bunny girl, we're entering into furry territory"
>*Worgen female runs around next to him on all fours*

How fun is Gunbreaker?

If only this wasn’t so accurate

DELETE THIS NOW

You're literally pressing the same amount of skills.

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Nobody knows yet.
It's looking pretty good though.

I mean what do you expect them to do, exploration in this game is utter shit, it's not breath of the wild.

tanaka's stolen work everyone

Both need to happen. Theres a ton of skills that make no sense not to be combined.

>Ley Lines doesnt turn into Between the Lines when active
>Trance doesnt turn into Deathflare when active
>Requiescat doesnt turn into Confiteor once activated

fucking rekt

A few of them yes, other's not really. Which is why I can still use the 1m ones. I'm talking about having them in the opener mind you. I enjoy doing my actual opener instead of a gutted version because half my tools are gone.

I used to have orange parses when I played. You're trying way too hard to respect the content to the point you don't want people to have fun. Is this you trying to compensate for lack of raw skill?

Dude 123 combo then other 123 combo to use bullets. hit ogcd so you never go over bullet amount.

here's your game WoWfags

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Any WOW players playing 14? Is BFA better or worse than FF14? Which are you having more fun with?

LOL

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>this game originally made for the PC is a console port
Intredasting

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Fuck off we dont want anymore of you retards.

>when pvp does the smn one but pve doesn't
It is nice them seem to have made the egi pets skills just become the same thing now.

OH NO NO NO NO

It doesn't matter, PVP's change was terrible and dumbed down the game significantly.
That isn't even taking into account controller players and how they map buttons.
Some people have completely different setups that doesn't just feel like 1 2 3.

NO NO You don't understand.. weeb! W-Weeeb! Japan bad America good! western cartoony good japanese cartoony bad!

do we have any details about ng+ yet?

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Yea I’m 350 ilvl 120 DK in bfa been playing FF XIV as well. I was very iffy about XIV at first but hell im actually enjoying it more than WoW now, it sucked me in

Which also breaks the feeling of world.

literally just the same as normal but everything is unlocked already. It's for the lore fags who can't get access to all the info from the book in the inn.

If you're so good why can't you use cooldowns properly in a dungeon? It's got nothing to do with respecting the content, if anything using them on trash allows you respect it less.

And why should I care about your parses when I probably parse better than you?

try again

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This is one of my biggest gripes with expansions, ARR zones absolutely dab on them.

why are you tranny fantasy players so obsessed with WoW? Talk about a napoleon complex, seen one too many people laugh at your pitiful sub numbers and now you have something to prove.
Go Idle and ERP with catgirls or whatever it is you guys do.

Go back to your dead game phaggot.

Slutterflies on the last page about to be archived!

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so will I have two seperate MSQs then?

no since they are so behind schedule they had to push a launch "feature" back to 5.1 to make the release date in time

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yeah this feels like absolute shit, I hope it's not as bad in shb since the expansion zone is supposed to be smaller because muh light eating the world

>hien
thats Rauban

Jokes on you user I play WoW as well and even I know that post is accurate

Fuck off you WoWfaggots literally get our threads deleted all the time and you constantly shit up discussion with "BUT WOW IS BETTER WEEB SHIT BAD"

We dont give a fuck play your shitty dying casino game.

Because of people like you always coming and talking about wow when people talk about xiv.. as in, the game not streamers since xiv players PLAY the game instead of watching it on twitch. Act like a dick for years and you seem surprised when people laugh at you for failing. Enjoy the mockery as your shitty mmo dies.

Probably can't do it until current MSQ is finished.

>>XIV has the worst open world of any modern MMO and every piece of non-instanced content is grabage
Nope we have sightseeing logs to complete and bestiaries as well. Also fates are non-instanced content that is actually cool and they flesh out the world. Also, we have hunts.
>>No need to group for anything outside of instanced content
Wrong, fates and hunts require teamwork. Some of the strongest (not extreme) bosses are on the overworld.
>>Leveling is absolutely fucked and requires you to do retarded shit like chaining dungeons or running Palace of the Dead instead of just letting you grind like an old school MMO or doing something modern and enjoyable like TESO, GW2, or even nu WoW
With daily activities you can easily grind one level a day in less than one hour in the final levels.
>>Gear is absolutely atrocious with no unique effects or set bonuses, everything that you can equip is just a stat stick with no choice
What are materias ?
>>No gameplay customizability like Talents, Traits, ascensions or anything like that
Lol, but you can play all 20-something combat classes and all crafter's and gatherers on one char with only one click to change between them compared to your rubbish 3 trees in wow of which only one is viable anyway
>>PvP is absolute shit
...ok true
>>Whenever you point this out, XIV-lets claim "It's supposed to be like a single-player game!" as they laud the story, even though it's worse than TESO's where literally everything in the game is fully voice acted and every single basic-bitch "kill 10 boars" quest has been replaced with actual CRPG styled side-quests
Story is great mate.
>But look at my cute goth-loli lalafell or my swimsuit-clad cat-girl! the Game is good I swear!
I have encountered only one degenerate while having played more than 4000 hours

>enters XIV thread screaming "PLAY WOW!!! IT'S BETTER AND WITHOUT TRANNIES!"
>gets absolutely destroyed
>"W-Why are you obsessed with WoW??? :("
FAGGOT.
>"I-I didn't mention WoW"
We know pretty well who you are, fuck off to your dead game. Other people don't play MMOs and don't give a shit about this game at all.

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It’s an alternate way to replay the story besides watching the cutscenes at the inn. It’s just mean for people who bought the story skip. Nothing to see here.

Shouldn't you be farming gold for Asmon right now?

I fucking hate WoW's community. Go play ESO of PSO2.

I've raided in wow since TBC and done mythic raiding since it was put in the game and played ffxiv since 1.0 and it's entirely accurate.
both statics I've played with in ffxiv, everyone gets to know each other and people stay close friends even when we decide to take a break or disband.
in wow, every raid just settles into little cliques, each of which tends to start despising everyone else in the raid and thinking themselves better while shit talking the people fucking up mechanics wipe after wipe.
there's just too many people in wow raids to let everyone be as friendly and cordial as ffxiv's smaller raid size. like the difference between hanging out with your friends vs hanging out with co-workers.

user that means additional updates as in more things with launch, not later updates.

ff14 players calling another game "dead" oh that's rich.
Lemme know when you fix that inane quest bloat after ARR and before HW that forces newbies to either poopsock fetchquests to get to the content they paid for, or buy a level jump potion just so they can enter the raid treadmill, pop estrogen pills and uwu at eachother. Fucking pathetic.

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To be fair BFA world quests and the attack/defend missions are basically the same thing as fates

lmao now this is a cope post

Enkindle and Enkindle Bahamut don't need to be separate buttons

It’s shaping up to be the tank with the most intricate rotation. Everyone else has some form of an Inner Release/fell cleave like rotation now. There might be some adjustments at launch, so it's hard to say if it’ll be fun or if it’ll be SB DRK.
I liked SB DRK but most apparently did not.

It's sad that you have to make your shit game look better by putting others down. It really is like trying to be the least offensive piece of trash in the garbage heap. For the record I don't play WoW either. Every reply to this post is a coping faggot with a chip on his shoulder because of WoW, as pointed out.

>WoWniggers always invade XIV threads
>O-OBSESSED

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it doesn't give exp so unless you want to re-examine a specific scene or remember something not in the inn book, it's useless.

>why can't you use cooldowns properly in a dungeon?
Are you ESL? I already typed why. How is it my fault you have trouble with reading comprehension? How does a person fail to read so hard they ask a question that was already answered in the very post they replied to?

>It's got nothing to do with respecting the content, if anything using them on trash allows you respect it less.
But it does. You're telling me to not do what I enjoy doing because I have to try hard so we can finish the dungeon 5 seconds earlier and because "the boss is not threatening". You're telling me to go full optimal at the cost of fun for minimal gains in what is merely a dungeon run. It sounds like you're trying to compensate for something with this attitude. I have to wonder what.

NG+ was confirmed for 5.1 not launch

>I enjoy being shit so I'm right.
Lol okay buddy.

It's sad that WoWniggers like you are coping so fucking hard.
Shut the fuck up, you conveniently didn't even look at the post they're making fun of.

>This post was written by an addon

nigga ur game is dead no need to do any mental gymnastics lmao

just because early game is a piece of shit doesn't mean the game is dead, they said they'll work on it but wow is unsalvageable

>Paying extra to get less game
Yes the pre-Titan fetch quest extravaganza blows but I'll never get this mindset.

yes, I want that.

>WoW players talking about damage control

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