Tell me your most controversial video game based opinion

applefags bfto....

This. Real Time with Pause is literally the worst.

>Agont
*agony

Games I don't like are bad

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Hollow Knight is literal trash and nothing good can be said about it.

I don't think RDR is the best video game ever made.

APPLELETS BTFO

Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee were better than SM and USUM.

Some of the bugs are sexy, so that's one good thing

I dont think Half Life 2 is or was a good game at any point.

Persona 5 is the fire emblem awakening of persona and the series will never be the same, we can expect smt v to take a similar approach to its story since it's what the masses want.

Sonic 06 is my favorite sonic game.

This is only controversial on Yea Forums, but:
The Last of Us is an excellent video game.

Hideo Kojima is the living definition of a hack and has always been one
He has never directed a good game aside from Policenauts

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No MMO has ever had good gameplay. No, not even that MMO you loved when you were 12. DEFINITELY not any version of World of Warcraft. At their best they're good for roleplay and social interaction. The reason all MMOs suck now is that they've always sucked. It's just that now it's 100x easier to play them solo, so basically everyone does.

CC > CT

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That's not controversial at all, plenty of people love it ironically.

link to the past is overrated dogshit carried entirely by nostalgia

Why? SMT IV and IV:A weren't Persona, and P3 and P4 were already much bigger hits than the main series.

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That's every zelda game though

quake 4 is better than any halo game

Shadow the Hedgehog is the best 3D Sonic game

Persona 5 is the best selling atlus game ever (i may be wrong) and atlus is milking it already, so why not give in and make it more anime less edgy

Halo 4 campaign is pretty kino, and the soundtrack is great.

What if I love it unironically?

Dead Cells is shit

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That's because ARPGs are garbage. The action is never good enough to stand on its own and there is no way to balance them. If the game gets too easy you feel bad for properly managing and leveling your stats, and if it's too hard you feel like an idiot because you could just grind your way out of the situation.

I want to fuck Satania

Overwatch is the only popular online FPS worth playing right now, if you are not nostaglic for CS.

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I want to fuck her vagina AND cum inside her.

Siege exists.

No Sonic game is good.

Hollow knight is a terribly optimized game. It's got too many bugs in it.

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judging by the pokemon outrage, i want every new game to just have new ones and and never bring the old ones back

BASED

Ranked is full of cheaters and each new operator becomes closer to to Fortnite style.

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Jet Set Radio is a shit game for hipster faggots and if you like it you're fucking wrong. The gameplay is boring, the art style is cartoony garbage, and the soundtrack is absolute unironic dogshit. Everything about this game angers me at a core level.

I am not trolling. I genuinely believe this.

Platformers are boring
Turn-based combat is superior for all RPGs, with the possible exception being RTwP.

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Siege is shit, i'd rather have patriots, anyone who likes siege is a normie faggot who'd eat up any CoD game past Black Ops 2

alttp moreso. You could say at least one nice thing about a zelda game except that one because it's irredeemable fucking garbage

ok retard

What does the A stand for?

Assassin’s Creed 2 killed the franchise, the original was amazing and we were cheated out of a series of historical Hitman games in favor of shitty action trash

ace attorney investigations isn't that bad, in fact it's better then DD, AJ, and JFA

Fighting games are a complete fucking waste of time.

If I buy a game, I don't mind having to take the time to get decent enough at it to enjoy it. But having to invest literally hundreds of hours of practice just to be able to play the game at the level expected of the player, you've literally just developed a useless skill for little dopamine payoff. Getting half-decent at DBFZ was such a waste of my life.

breath of the wild is a bastardized abomination that ruined the entire zelda franchise.

sonic was always good

BUT THEY NEVER FUCKING ASK "are you ok retard"

genuine kek

This could actually be really interesting if it was for balancing purposes like GF says it is. Do something like hearthstone where you have a base set of pokemon and cycle the newer genrations out every game. Of course knowing GF this decision was based solely on how lazy they could be because if they had any sense they would still give people the option to play with all the pokemon.

>Overwatch is the only popular online FPS worth playing
>Only 1/4 of the characters require you to have good aim

minorities don't deserve video game representation

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Patrician opinion, user. I, too, love Sonic and the Secret Rings.

Based opinion and based kip poster

ace combat 5 sucks, worst of the holy trinity by far 7 is better in everyway

I don't think the werehog sections were that bad in SU.
In addition, I don't like SA2 at all.

>SU complains: Hurr you only go fast for half of the game
In SA2 you go fast for 1 / 3rd of the game, no matter how many cool songs you add to knuckles quests, the gameplay is terrible.

(you) got a chuckle out of me, Carlos

TLOU1 isn't overrated

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it's all a waste of time, user

>Midnight
>Arrival
The music is good but I like Martin O'Donnel's work better. That is really why I give half a shit for Halo Infinite, 343i brought him back.

That said, I hate Prometheans, such a fucking chore to fight. I'd rather play Halo 2 on Legendary.

You’re right unless you have casual friends to play it with at your level or you want to go to tournaments to play. It’s all about what you want out of it with fighting games. Also pick a fighting game with gameplay you love and characters you love, you’ll never make it if you can’t find that.

Anyone got source on this here image?

>Ranked is full of cheaters
This season is quite awful and Ubisoft need to get off their ass and handle shit.
>each new operator becomes closer to to Fortnite style.
Style is fine.

This. BotW thinks that it's so ground breaking since it has an open world but in turn forgets to make any other redeemable qualities. Dungeons are shit and repetitive. Bosses are shit. Story is shit. I can't believe there are people who think it's the best Zelda game.

Fuck BotW

>her
>vagina

I bring you bad news, user-san.

Celebrities are going to kill what's left of video game creativity.

care to explain?

that's a sexy anime woman

Game Freak, Nintendo, and Pokemon Company should follow Sega's footsteps for Mania and hand the Pokemon Video Game IP to the fans who have proven their worth through projects like fan games to develop a true installment in the series.

Satania is best girl and I will fuck her ass
I'll fuck her ass so much that she will get pregnant from it

Relative to System Shock 1 and Prey, SS2 is a flaming pile of trash

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Counter-point.
I liked the direction of the series after, there was more ways to go about on a target and while the initial concept was good, AC gameplay was tiresome in many aspects...not to mention that the setting you describe is immediately shattered in the original, the final fight with Al-Mulim was stupid.

AC has never had a good boss fight, while Hitman has had many. Hitman 2 (The original one) had you go against another agent, that mission was awesome.

AC is not on the same level but I did like the story telling of ACII, Revelations, Unity and Black Flag. I never played the ones after Syndicate, they look really silly....impressive, but silly.

This isn't even a hot take

Video games shouldn't use sex appeal . It's fine to have attractive characters, but if you're going to shove T&A in my face, just make a fucking porno. I just want to complete fun gameplay challenges and not have to be distracted by anime girl tits while I'm doing it.

I don't know if this is controversial but I've never heard anyone voice it before but
I think ARPGs should auto-balance the bosses to the player's stats.

You're more than likely going to be underpowered or overpowered (if even just slightly) when going into one, and the benefits of having a good balanced boss outweighs the satisfaction of defeating a boss while underlevelled or being much stronger than it by grinding.

I understand that, but I want my waste of time to be fun with a reasonable amount of time investment required.

I played Skullgirls for awhile and picked up DBFZ solely because I liked the characters. As it turned out I had a friend to play with, and it got old because I was just a step up from where he was willing to put in his time investment. Naturally he gave up, I had to resort to playing online, and then I got frustrated and gave up.

Sorry I'm not a k*rean.

>no tits
>no ass
she's a 5/10 at best.

if you are afraid of oversexualization in your videogames then you will fail as a director

Yoko Taro and Kojima are frauds that have obscure oversexualization and sex themes going on in their games and they sold millions of copies

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What's the point of leveling then

To feel your progression apply to the rest of the game.
In KH for example it's a lot of fun to get new abilities as you level up, those abilities don't have to be removed just to balance the player.

But ARPGs already do that. Grim Dawn and D3 for sure, no idea about POE.
For level, ofc, not for stats.

white people shouldn't touch any asian-made games because all they do is infect it with sjw garbage forcing the developers to tone down certain violence/adult scenes
white people should stick to their sjw games like clash of clans and call of duty

But nu-Wolfenstein, Uncharted, TLOU, etc. were all successful though, sexualization isn't a significant component at all. Sure its nice, but normies will eat up any shit so long as the game has a high budget, looks nice, has explosions, and doesn't have game breaking bugs.

>what if your character and gear didn't matter in an ARPG

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People who shit talk 3D platformers for having “too many collectibles” or “too much backtracking” are pussy ass nigga’s who want everything given to them

Cunnyposters are one of the few people in Yea Forums who make this board bearable

aids

Games shouldn’t really be difficult unless they have a good reason

yeah, people who like fighting games usually have fun with the getting better part, otherwise it's not fun. Or they have friends they compete with to get better.

>Arkane is one of the best studios of the 2010-20 gen What the fuck do you call the teen years?
>Death Loop is going to come out to "yeah it was pretty good I guess" reception
>just like Prey, Dishonored 1, 2 and all their DLC.
>the studio will make 1 or 2 more games after DL before closing down
>2028 whatever the fuck comes after a zoom will make threads talking how great Arkane was
>I will then Seethe myself out of existence

I know it will happen, but I can't tell who's to blame...

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Ninja Gaiden as a whole is vastly overrated

Oh ok cool.
what does the R stand for?

i just fucking sneezed so hard

that's just having good taste

People are complaining about Nazi representation for the wrong reason

The issue should be that the Nazi plots are repeated too many fucking times and comes off as lazy.
Not idiots whining political messages being the reason.

Are you alright user?

Shadow the Hedgehog was a good game. It would've been the best PS2 Sonic game if not for Unleashed.

MMOs are dead, completely replaced by the Looter Shooter genre.

Gen 8 has not had a single good, AAA-budget JRPG. Persona is not an AAA game, I'm talking something the size of a Final Fantasy game.

Some genres will only live in VR. You can turn that around and say that VR will thrive exactly because some genres will become exclusive to it.

Fighting games are a stale genre, they have refused to evolve in 25 years. Every single fighting game is still trying to be Street Fighter 2.

The king of stale genres is shmups/bullet hells though. They also have refused to evolve but for even longer. I will admit that they feel and play massively different from one another but never evolve.

The most significant game made in this decade is Beat Saber. 30 years from now it will be seen as a milestone in entertainment, not unlike SMB, Sonic or Halo.

Mobile "games" are cancer but they are not competitors to actual game, the same way slot machines and pachinko are not competition for video games either. They're here to stay.

The age of battle royale will end, just as the age of MOBAs has before them, the age of MMOs before that, and the age of mascot platformers before that. Epic knows this and wants to diversify for when Fortnite plummets.

Cygames is the single most promising developers right now. Yes, even though they're making a fighting game.

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Splatoon is the best currently active team shooter game.

>nu-wolfenstein was successful
well it wasn't a bioware/cliffyb failure but only really the first game did well.

Dracula X > Rondo of Blood

Just wanted to tag the bad opinions in this thread and give them pity (You)s. Sorry you're all retarded.

I meant more like the KH, NieR and Witcher games as examples. I personally don't find the Diablo-type ARPG's have the type of combat that would benefit from autobalanced bosses.

cringe

Hello Mr. President

retard

Everytime I see that corruption of Wojak, I feel nauseous. Because I know there's probably people in real life that are like that.

I never understood the complaints about the Batmobile in Arkham Knight, the only thing wrong with that game is a weak story otherwise it’a better than City by a mile

dilate

>nazi symbols are not allowed in germany
>instead they ruin the iron-cross symbol and keep combining it with nazis by replacing the swastikas with it
me no comprende

hahahahhahahahah

I consider it a necessary sacrifice if the alternative is that you'll be underlevelled or overlevelled for an encounter that could otherwise be very well balanced and fun.

are you ok
how many fingers am i holding up

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>deleted

Imagine having a post so fucking terrible in a hot takes thread that you either delete it yourself or a janny deletes it

Fucking hell

No I'm not

>Gen 8 has not had a single good, AAA-budget JRPG
KH3 is an AAA JRPG. Don't start jumping through hoops now, it is.

>the studio will make 1 or 2 more games after DL before closing down
I feel like this is almost guaranteed Bethesda Softworks is feeling more and more like EA 2 every year without the sports games to prop them up.

is that a sausage

I’m pretty sure people aren’t complaining about mobile games being a thing and replacing things when they don’t.
They are just complaining that Konami and Capcom are standing around doing nothing but pachinko machines on their old IP’s

Based and woomypilled!

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kill yourself faggot

Action

>but they are not competitors to actual game, the same way slot machines and pachinko are not competition for video games either.
So why are handhelds dead then?

have sex

Yes, it is. Unfortunately, it is not good.

already did, ask your mom

Force unleashed (all versions) is a underappreciated game that really deserved better than what it got.

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Because nintendo didn't want to release a 4DS

Cause PSVita had no game and Nintendo won

>handhelds are dead
>Switch has higher lifetime sales than PS4 in Japan

just did, she thought it was weird you fucked our dog

BTFO

>Nintendo is the cancer killing video games
based

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He got the girl and flew off into space to retire. That's a win in my book because everyone knows the series has gone to shiiiiit!

Wind Waker is one of the worst Zelda games, in the bottom 5 of the mainline series, and it's not because of the artstyle or sailing but rather because of everything that ISN'T those elements. Outside of its unique elements WW is just the worst of the OoT clones and generally a very subpar Zelda game. I even think Phantom Hourglass is a better game.

Satania a shit

>the one gaming company that is consistently video games is killing video games

>Tell me your most controversial video game based opinion.
I liked Castlevania Judgment.

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A switch isn't something you can fit in your pocket. It just isn't quite the same as a gameboy even if it is technically portable

3D zelda sucks and killed the series. the best zelda game was minish cap.

purely isometric camera in CRPG is outdated. Any modern CRPG should be fully 3d and have a 3rd person camera option. Dragon Age managed this just fine, there's no reason why other modern CRPGs can't do the same shit. Unless your game is tile-based like Underrail there's not much of an excuse.

Kill yourself.

That's not ARPG though, that's just bad

If you like action and are talking about only the gameplay itself, Vindictus is objectively good in that regard. Unfortunately, everything else is hot shit.

The mother fucking abomination known as the GameCube had the absolute worst version of every single fucking fan base who won’t shut the fuck up about their GC game. Any and all games afterwards are shat on by these ginormous babies who want nothing but to be exactly the same as it was on the GameCube.

>Luigi’s Mansion realism and dark fags
>Resident Evil 4 MUH ACTION SHOOTY fags
>Pikmin 2 MUH CAVES fags
>Mario Kart Double Dash fags
>The pile of miserable shit known as Melee fags
>Paper Mario TTYD Fags who convinced themselves Mario and Luigi is bad
The list goes on

Fuck GameCube fags

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Oooooh ok.
P what does that stand for?

>That said, I hate Prometheans, such a fucking chore to fight
Still way better than the flood redesign from halo 3 t b h

Not necessarily but Nintendo fans could. They have absolutely no standards and will defend anything Nintendo does with all their strength.

Based,

It is, I'll admit that much. I find it hard to say KH3 is good because the only people it appeals to are the ones that already were hooked on the series. From what I've read here and elsewhere, it seems like people "enjoyed it but was under their expectations".

Handhelds are dead because only Japanese developers ever cared for them. There have been almost no significant handheld titles developed on the West.

Nintendo handhelds were the only significant ones(fact, not opinion, I love my PSP) so when they dropped the 3DS, the entire handheld market went with them. They still live on with the Switch though, which is more than can be said about most things considered "dead" in video games.

Can you imagine the pain of being a fan of Metroid? Of RTS games? Of Rail Shooters? Of MMOs? Stuff that is 100%, unequivocally, unambiguously dead.

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I don't even see why this would be considered a controversial statement. Judgment was pretty much an arena fighter in the same mold of Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm. The only real gripe about it gameplay-wise was that using your super was guaranteed to take off half of the life bar, and it was a single button input (well, at least if you were using a Gamecube controller). Made the game too easy/boring. I really didn't mind the Death Note character designs.

pozzed

Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life was pretty rad

Why would you play bad games?

>hated by people who've never even played it
>horrible sequel that should have just replaced the title with "development Hell the game"
>will never get a true follow up or conclusion
>rendered non canon and forgotten untill Disney needs a new character to bring back and needlessly fuck with

Its been rough

pussy

You've opened up my eyes to a new pattern I had not previously noticed. Thank you, GC fanbases really are awful.

Morrowind is fucking garbage
Kojima is a hack that accidentally makes good games
The Witcher is overated

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>Pozzed
>pussy
Ok now I'm confused...
What does the A stand for again?

Nintendo should go third party
I don't give a shit if a game has attractive females or not if they aren't a romantic interest or i can't fuck them anyway. its like going to a bar that has food out but you can't eat or even smell the food.
People who bitch about cencorship from Sony and then shell out the money for Atlus's $60 DLC repackaged into the same Persona game don't strike me as people who really give a shit about cencorship.
I'm loyal to Steam because no other software lets me take easy screencaps of my games and auto-saves them to a folder without being intrusive.
I appreciate games who's online functionalities don't tolerate "toxic behavior" and allow you to report it because if i wanted to play online and be called names id join some Yea Forums hosted server or play call of duty.

>fact, not opinion, I love my PSP
But psp sold more than the 3ds

>strand game
holyshit based kojima

Someday, all the games you love will stop being fun.

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>Nintendo should go third party
All publishers should go third party, all exclusives are anti-consumer

Help me out, boys.

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People who think Handsome Jack is a good villain are fucking retarded and just like "funny man who say funny thing!". Just because he makes snide comments and mocks you like a little brother over the course of the game and has a fascist agenda he's pushing like its no big deal are not qualities of a well written character. The Pre-Sequel further proves that his "sympathetic" background is shoehorned and retarded as hell.

Ok but Jungle Beat is for mega chads.

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I'll take this and alter it to
Nintendo is the cancer responsible for the casualization of games and the reason for the shit-eating consumer base for vidya.
>inb4 console war

SEGA should have won

Probably some /tg drawfag

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Playing Final Fantasy VII by modern standards shines a much necessary light on the game and reveals how actually shit it is.
Everything about the gameplay is absolute trash and I cannot understand how it was tolerated 20 years ago, guess videogames were really that shit way back then.
The Remake is gonna make the game actually good by dumping out the shitty battle system the old game had and I cannot wait for it to get released.

literally all snoys/xbros have been saying that for decades, not controversial.

People who whine about a game being under 60 fps are the most insufferable people on the planet. So long as I'm not getting lag or choppy looking frameskip bullshit, I could not give less of a fuck about framerate, the difference is too small to matter. Just focus on playing the game you fucking niggers

You do realize you just described turn-based games as well, right?

Friendly reminder to always clarify whether you mean "controversial on Yea Forums" or "generally controversial" when you make these.
The two are very different categories that may even be opposites at times.

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Absolutely based and correct

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Retard

Just don’t look at, you’re going to be called names anyway

The Sega Saturn was good. Sega bungling the launch and refusing to localize the games doesn't mean the console and the library itself were shit.

>So long as I'm not getting lag or choppy looking frameskip bullshit
But you're exactly describing sub-60fps

ranked ow is literal horse shit, just an SR roller coaster.

The PSP sold 82m against 154m on the DS. If you want to talk about the 3DS, it sold 70m against the Vita's weak 14m.

Don't forget, manufactures don't make any money out of hardware sales, only software sales. Everyone that had a PSP/PSV had CFW while Nintendo handhelds actually sold games.

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>food analogy

hah yeah blighttown is fine!

Bethesda has never produced a good game and is truly the most overrated game company of all time.

all your animes are minorities.

>Everyone that had a PSP/PSV had CFW while Nintendo handhelds actually sold games
[citation needed]

>just focus on playing the game you niggers
I can't when the game is accepting my inputs at half the rate a 60 fps game does. It LITERALLY affects the game play. The game has HALF the frames to accept inputs.
fighting games have been at 60 fps since fucking Street Fighter 2

In MMOROGs I think being a ranged dps/caster is miles easier than being a melee dps.

Sexualities should be player based for romance, any non romanceble character's sexuality should either be simple and not in your face, not talked about at all and be a background thing for the player to discover.

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The Sega Saturn and OG Xbox are about the same for me, basically treasure chests full of hidden gems waiting to be discovered.

>blighttown bad

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Bethesda's own in-house studio, you're right. But the ones they've acquired like Arkane, Tango, and id have made good games. Dishonored and Prey are good. Evil Within is good. Doom 2016 is good.

In my opinion this goes to Gearbox. They literally have NEVER made a good game and EVERY BORDERLANDS IS SHIT. All of them. They're so bad.

Resident Evil 6 is a good game.

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Skyrim is a great game

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Any game that requires frame perfect precision is a shit game anyway. Literally just as much of an RNG simulator as gacha

you play mobile games, shut up geek.

Come on man, Morrowind is amazing and Skyrim is at the very least passable.

While sub-60 is of course not optimal, depending on the monitor or the game the problem can be exacerbated, which is probably what user's talking about. There's that one webm alternating between 60 and 30 that people keep spamming that just so happens to have the worst possible sync with the video to make it look more like 15 fps.

CFW/hacking talk is verboten on Vita General on /vg/. One guy sperged out because someone was posting in-game screenshots in .png format (something only possible if you have a hacked Vita).

Thanks anyway, mate!

>doesn't have game breaking bugs
How does Bethesda stay in business?

While your opinion is perfectly valid, as some games simply don't age well at all, your age is showing.

If you haven't played a Japanese game IN Japanese, you haven't actually played the game.

This is only really "controversial" because most posters here are EOP brainlets who have spent their entire lives trying to convince themselves that translations are acceptable. They aren't.

Video games are fun

Console wars are dumb

Theres a lotta good shit coming out all the time, vidya crash is extremely unlikely

Tripfags are dumb and should be shunned

The mods here are real shit and will let a /pol/ thread go on for ages and delete video game threads within minutes.

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Your absolutely correct, I love a good chunk of Gamecube games but I cannot stand the dicksuckers who won’t enjoy the other games

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Worst post ITT kys

Agreed. I want to punch a wall every time I see someone claim the OG Xbox was only a Halo machine.

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i was about to post
">controversial"
and then remembered that that is probably the most actually controversial one in the thread. weird how Yea Forums affects perception of reality

This is about the only thing Fallout 4 did right. You could romance any available companion, unrestricted.

Based

>force unleashed 2 makes the stalker ending canon
>game picks off as you hunt Jedi across the galaxy and expands the character customization greatly, fuck make it an rpg
TELL ME ONE REASON TFU2 WOULDN'T BE BETTER THIS WAY

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Final fantasy XIV is the only good mainline final fantasy title, and it's just decent. The entire series is insanely overrated, especially 4 and 7. I can think of 10 better jRPG series

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?
>People are currently shitting on sword and shield
>People shat on Luigi’s Mansion and it got better by E3
>People shat on the Paper Mario games after TTYD
>People shat on Mario Maker 2’s online with random only that Nintendo decided to fix it in a post launch update

Western games are objectively trash.
All of them, even the 'good' ones.

Well, /vg/ is full of crazy people.

t. someone who was a /vg/ regular for years, on many games.

And it's not like Homebrew General is not a thing.

it was kino
and the second one wasn't really bad just to short and not fleshed out

Sekiro is the best game Fromsoft has ever made.

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starkiller is the strongest star wars character though

In most Bethesda games you can just load a save

Go back to broken japanese and being laughed at by random asians you bow to in your kimono, fat weeb

Diablo 3 is a good game.

It's up there i hope theres dlc or something
Ds1=BB>Sekiro>DeS>Ds2>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ds3=Dsr

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That’s not controversial, that’s just flat out stupid.

>implying one of the nu jedi disney made in their rubbish new cannon isnt the "strongest"
you fool

Bloodborne is the best PS4 game.
However, I feel that Horizon Zero Dawn is the quintessential PS4 title, and the most important game of its first half life-cycle.

based

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RDR2 is boring shit for amerifats
Nintendo is the retarded saviour of videogames
Only 2D Sonic games aren't total shit and even those are mediocre at best
PC is irreplacable and the best way to play vidya if you aren't a brainlet.

I think all of Yea Forums's dedicated user base should die a slow painful death.

why does Yea Forums hate HZD? I played it and loved it

he fucking raped vador

lol wut? games were going to become more casual no matter what. the casualization of games only leads to them becoming more popular. You have to ease people in not everyone is willing to just jump into a 60$ game.

Most cases of ''Censorship'' in gaming isnt really censorship, but localization due to the big difference of cultural norms. You dont just sell games with sexualized pedobait stuff in the west without massive changes, if not you wouldnt even get a game.

This is a fact though.

Blue Dragon is better than Final Fantasy and Lost Oddyssy
Lo>FF though

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There are instances where it legitmately matters. Anything with twitch reaction times like a fighter or FPS benefits from the sharper responsiveness, while any game with a mouselook camera needs an adequate refresh rate so the mere act of moving the camera doesn't cause an actual headache. In most any other instance though 30 FPS is fine, and to that end people who bitch about sub-60 FPS for the sake of it rather than having a legitimate reason are indeed insufferable. 60 is always better than 30 but there's tons of instances where 30 is adequate.

>mega chads
i think you mean ultra chads

Zelda fanboys are pathetic and can't take criticism
Metroid niggers never even played the game, they just dump asspics of samus, same goes for shantae
Platinum games, grasshopper and From are the last good vidya developers that care about good and complex gameplay
Bannerlord will be underwhelming
Gacha has already killed any possibility of mobile ever being something more than emulators galore for vidya
The DS was Nintendo's best console with their best games

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It is literal censorship but you aren't wrong, societal norms do differ from region to region and what flies over in Japan might not necessarily fly with western audiences at large. Weebs who will gladly accept Japanese standards as gospel are indeed in the minority, most westerners don't want to see lolis and shit in their game stores, it's just differing cultural norms. I wouldn't call this opinion controversial so much as sensibly aware, localization is a bitch of a thing and anyone who is up in arms about it can learn Japanese, which some people do.

Something something the main girl is ugly and some notion that it's a SJW-oriented game. If only they knew that the matriarchal tribe was ass backwards and the only civilized tribe in the game was 100% patriarchal, maybe it would change their minds.

The freedom in gameplay in that game is outstanding, and I love it when games leave little pieces of lore and text spread around the world. It was a legit 10/10 game for me.

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based

>posts in 12 fps

Based on their personality, the WoL in FFXIV was clearly meant to be female and only because square enix knew the game wouldnt sell unless the canon character was actually male, they made yoshi p change it for all the cinematic material.

WoL literally doesn't make sense in universe as a male

It's all fun and games until censors start trying to force their societal norms on the foreign devs. See s󠀀oyny and their new politics on censorship imposed even on jap games. It's a slippery slope that always leads to the worst case scenario.

tfw ttydchad AND m&lchad

>Taro
Stop right now nigger. If Taro over sexualized anyone it was a certain male in the woods.

Serious Sam 2 is the best game in the series.
First, Second and Before First Encounter are all shit and Serious Sam 2 is the only good Serious Sam game.

Your brain is just slow, RTS is obviously superior to turn based

Give me one good reason for why you somehow think this is true.

These are unironically the best games ever made.
> 1. Ocarina of Time
> 2. Panzer Dragoon Saga
> 3. Digital Devil Saga 2
> 4. Chrono Cross
> 5. Final Fantasy VI
> 6. Metroid Prime
> 7. Trails in the Sky SC
> 8. SoulCalibur
> 9. Trails in the Sky FC
> 10. Mother 3
> 11. Super Metroid
> 12. Chrono Trigger
> 13. Shadow of the Colossus
> 14. A Link To The Past
> 15. Super Mario World
> 16. Metal Gear Solid 3
> 17. Resident Evil 4
> 18. Super Mario Galaxy
> 19. Resident Evil (2002)
> 20. Super Mario 64
> 21. Persona 2: Innocent Sin
> 22. Final Fantasy X
> 23. EarthBound
> 24. Metal Gear Solid 2
> 25. Bioshock
> 26. Lunar: Eternal Blue
> 27. Final Fantasy IX
> 28. The Wind Waker
> 29. Valkyrie Profile
> 30. Majora's Mask
> 31. Journey
> 32. Silent Hill 2
> 33. NieR: Automata
> 34. Portal
> 35. Super Mario Galaxy 2
> 36. Vagrant Story
> 37. Ico
> 38. Perfect Dark
> 39. Skies of Arcadia
> 40. Okami
> 41. Resident Evil 4 (PS4)
> 42. Fatal Frame II
> 43. Portal 2
> 44. Street Fighter II Turbo
> 45. Metal Gear Solid
> 46. INSIDE
> 47. Super Mario Bros 3
> 48. Xenogears
> 49. Final Fantasy VII
> 50. Castlevania: SOTN

Not that far out there Mario Kart is only good series in the kart racing genre.
But this one always gets me hate Ocarina of Time is the worst 3D zelda

Nintendo is the containment buying the rest of us precious time before we are swarmed

It’s technically still censorship but I do agree

>Resident Evil 4
>Resident Evil 4 (PS4)
Explain yourself

The western gaming industry is creatively bankrupt. There are no good western AAA games.

> MGS1 that much lower than 2 & 3
Why?

Dark Souls 2 > 1 > DeS > 3

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Cookie cutter as fuck. Go back to facebook.

I actually enjoyed most Call of Duty games. I'm talking about the good ones not shit like Ghosts and Advanced Warfare

I meant to type Resident Evil 2, but for some reason wrote RE4 instead
The gameplay aged like absolute shit

Alien Isolation was pretty good. I'm hard pressed to name one that's really stood out since, though.

>pretending to be retarded

>he hasn't played ftl
cringe

Graphics are the most important part in a game it’s just that western shiteaters interpret graphics as “more realism garbage” and try to make the characters look more and more like real human beings(ugly as shit) when they should be doing the opposite and making the characters look like 2D anime characters.

Western media industry in general*

Hollywood movies nowadays are all either reboots/remakes of movies from the 80s or superhero movies

>no motivation
>doesnt think for themselve
>content to stand around taking orders from anyone and everyone
>extremely autistic
>dependent personality disorder
>the power of literal gods and yet no ambition to do anything other than what they are told

The WoL is very clearly a woman with a dependent personality disorder who is abnormally strong and doesnt know how to handle being strong.

I can agree with at least 7 of those names and disagree with almost none, good list.

The reason mascot racer exists is exclusively because they want to be Mario Kart, so that's hardly an affirmation. I do feel that Sonic's All Star Racing Transformed was at least equal to a MK game though.

Horizon Zero Dawn, Spiderman and God of War ranged from good to excellent.

ps2/xbox/gamecube-360/wii/ps3 was unironically the dark ages of gaming
>b-b-but I luved my ps2
>but user halo!
>m-mario sunshine
these games are the exception not the rule for that time.

>Platformers are boring
Triggered

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>1-3
>MW
>WaW favorite
>MW2
>BO close second
>BO2
From BO2 onwards I stopped caring about cod

Heres my controversial opinion:
>if you ever try to claim that there CAN be a list of greatest games ever your a fucking idiot that ignores the subjectivity of human experience.

Well, that's an opinion. This is weird, the parts that get under my skin probably aren't the parts that you're emphasizing. Anime looking better than realism, whatever. Graphics more important than gameplay, U FOOKIN WOT M8.

Monster Hunter ranked
GenU = 4U > World > 3U > FreedomU > Massive Fucking Power Gap > Dos > MH1
No one cares about P3rd or any of that bullshit
I don't care if you do

I will give Horizon that the world itself was pretty inspired even if the gameplay could be cliche. That game suffered a lot from coming out alongside BotW.
Spider-Man and God of PS4 didn't do much for me, though. GoW felt like it was just trying to be TLOU.

>sexualized pedobait stuff
wrong hill for anti-censorship morons to die on defending pedo loli stuff. The only real censorship I saw was DMC5 but sony reverted that quick

“Nostalgia” ruined the creativity in media

Cope

Yea Forums is an awful place to look for opinions, and more often than not going directly against their advice will lead to a better, more fulfilling experience overall.

What are the chances this will actually be a good game?

Officially the most wrong opinion in the entire thread. No other time period was more prosperous than between late Gen 5 going into early Gen 7.

Sure, there was a lot of shovelware but you could name at least 30~50 excellent games for each of those systems. Yes, even the OG Xbox.

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>> 1. Ocarina of Time
list discarded

Any highly competitive game (mainly FPS's and MMOs come to mind) is the cancer of gaming.

That's not controversial, it's just wrong and retarded. P3 is the game that really boosted the series' popularity in the West, P4 boosted it even more and 5 boosted it more still, but none of it made SMT or any other MegaTen series change into Persona-lite, not even IV:A which was the closest to that.

Stick around long enough and you learn to sniff out the sincere thoughts from the bullshit. You absolutely can't believe EVERYTHING you read here, though.

>No other time period was more prosperous than between late Gen 5 going into early Gen 7.
16 bit era

I don’t give a fuck about gameplay or the story if I don’t like the characters because they remind me of some disgusting real human being and make me want to puke. The games with good artstyles usually have top quality gameplay anyways it’s just that artstyle is the prerequisite for me to actually care about the game not the gameplay.

“Nostalgia” is ruining creativity in media and it’s a damn shame

I think that's part of it, but I think its just a drying of the creative well. Why put forth the time and effort to write a brand new, unique movie when profitable, popular movies from the 80s can be retooled for the 21st century while using minimal creative resources, capitalizing on both boomers and normies that want to see a flashy movie?

I wouldn't say it sucks, but I do agree it's worse than AC0, 7 and 04.

Localization is generally a good thing and is constantly used as a catch-all term for poor localization, which is why the term has such a negative stigma.

The recent Yakuza localizations for example are great. They express the Japanese culture well and appropriately without hampering the dialogue necessary for good characterization. It's the balance of clarity and authenticity that makes it a great localization.

go on and name them user. we're all waiting.

if you combined best games from the ps3/360/wii/gamecube/ and og xbox you wouldn't have 10 games worth playing let alone 50

ps2 has maybe 20 good games on it but that is really stretching what can reasonably be called "good"

???

You can spend less on advertising and the public will be more likely to convince themselves something is good if you use an IP which is recognized already. It's a calculated move.

Gen 7 was the beginning of a dark age that we're still in now. Gen 6 was excellent though, the prototypical ideas of the previous gen's take on 3D were greatly refined into the beginning of the standards you see today. The main problem with gen 7/8 is that things haven't substantially gotten better since. Bigger, yes. Shinier, yes. More innovative, not especially, and more often than not innovations have been detrimental rather than progressive like the motion control craze or microtransactions.

You must be 21 or older to purchase multi-player games.

I feel mostly the same way. I refuse to play most things from like From Software and Bethesda just because of the way they look. If brown is a major part of the color pallette, no deal.

Phoenix wright is a great example of good localization

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Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Origins are both superior games to The Witcher 3

I think Persona 3 is fairly bad, I still like a lot of things about it and I respect it a lot, but I do not think it is a very well made game and, with some exceptions, most of what makes it enjoyable is just the novelty of the different ideas in it, but a lot of those ideas are too poorly implemented to be enjoyed for anything beyond the novelty of it.

By any chance, do you happen to like Stella Glow?

Not sure if this is bait because of how heavily localized it is, but it's not an example I'd use personally.

The gameplay in HZD was stellar, just thinking of the countless different ways I could fight with all the weapons was mind boggling. GoW was certainly the weakest out of the 3 but Spiderman PS4 could not have possibly been a better spiderman game.

Too heavily constricted by limitations. The range I mentioned was the sweet spot between technical freedom and still being a relatively small industry with creative freedoms.

What SEGA does for Yakuza is exceptionally excellent though, nowhere near the norm. Most localization is closer to what you'd see in a Neptunia game, with 2ch language and jokes being translated to reddit and Yea Forums references.

Nothing I think is really controversial when it comes to games, I'm pretty sure most non-casual gamers think that the AAA space of gaming needs, will and deserves to be eradicated from existence.

Uhh, idk I guess Dark Souls type games are shitty to me because they do not provide a concise narrative to keep me focused and motivated to deal with arbitrary reasons you'd die as a new player for the sake of being 'hard'.

FOOT DIVE

If you didnt read those words the right way you dont deserve to be here

*ONLINE multi-player games

>The recent Yakuza localizations for example are great.

What, you mean where they plan to remove the tranny that chases Kiryu around in Yakuza 3 because that's offensive to snowflake westerners?

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood had one of the best multiplayer modes of the entire seventh console generation.
If you disagree, you never played it.

>What SEGA does for Yakuza is exceptionally excellent though, nowhere near the norm
While I agree that they probably have the best localization I've seen, my main point is that it's still localization.
If someone hated localization because of the stigma I brought up but loved Yakuza, odds are they wouldn't even consider that game 'localized'.

Forge should be in heroes mm3
The ones who don't agree with me are dumb ignorants who dont know lore of m&m
H4>h3

multiplayer games should be illegal.
I would say we're currently in the gilded age of gaming. there's plenty of good things in gaming right now. basically there is a matte sheen of gold that overshadows the overwhelming amount of shit, but that overwhelming amount of shit is because of the money.

>gen 6
>innovation
LMAO
name one

RTS was killed by fans

Limitations encourage creativity. That's why the masterpieces of the 16-bit era have so much "soul" – I hate this word but it really does sum it up best here. There is a sense of craftsmanship.

No I mean the excellent job they did localizing the story, characterization and culture of Yakuza 0, K1, K2 and 6.
But nice job trying to derail the conversation into some irrelevant nonsense.

all 3 games should be burned and forgotten. asscreed is an abortion of a franchise.

So right now I'm going through IV, and I hear some bad things about IVA. I'm still planning to play it, after im done with IV (which will be a good long while) but please without spoilers or anything, why is it, that fans generally have somewhat of a distaste to IVA?

I don't know much but I think it's because it reuses the same setting or something

Fair point what kills me the most is when it’s barely changed at all. I would actually like seeing old games/movies remade with modern tech and the director maybe changing the plot or rewriting characters just something fresh
>detective pikachu was a good idea at least

Well for one, Halo standardized dual analog camera controls on consoles. But for the most part gen 6 was a sound refinement of gen 5 which, fun as many of its experiments were, was a little rough around the edges.

That's my genuine opinion
I love 2 and it's variety and unique mood. I like 1's setting and mods. DeS is alright, kind of stale. 3 is just annoying and feels bad, full of screaming enemies, micro-stun, feces everywhere, linearity, etc.

rts was killed by the internet being popular.

why would I ever try to think of a strat? I'll just log on to twitch and copy what a player who's top 10 in the world does ;^)

This is 100% true.

It’s my one of my favorite game of all time actually, although I haven’t played games I want to like DT2 and Mary Skelter on the Vita yet. Ar Nosurge was great though and I can’t wait to play Ciel in English when they finish the translation project.

did you just fart onto your keyboard and that's the sentence that came out?

Banjo kazooie nuts and bolts is a fun game

They don't really, the gameplay is almost universally considered the best in the series, outside of the dungeon crawling which is kind of shitty, and it hugely improves on a lot of the issues in IV. The issue is that the character's and writing are much more reminiscent of a generic anime and there's some power of friendship stuff and the like in there too though you can avoid that. A lot of people dislike that just by itself, but then a lot of people take it further and interpret that as them taking influence from Persona and trying to make Persona more like SMT.

Personally I don't think it feels like Persona in its writing even if it feels more like Persona than other SMT games do, and it's written the way it is because it's easier to write generic characters like that and a lot of the writing in the game feels lazily done.

Come on dude, AssCreed2 as a very good game. The issue was that they turned it into a yearly rehash series and it's been copied by so many other developers, it's gotten stale.

I am not even sure what killed RTS at this point.

That's why I like gen 6. It was a good balance between limitations and freedom.

Dual analogs were on their way to become standard already, Halo just made it faster. Halo popularized and invented tons of little things, ushering the console world into an age of FPS games, but dual analog was a poor example.

god what I wouldn't do to be one of the blissful retards of this board. how I wish I could wallow in a soiled diaper and enjoy dogshit video games like COD, borderlands, asscreed, pokemon, or skyrim.

unfortunately I was born with a brain

People who scorn fighting games are just too immature to look inwards after each loss in order to improve.

4th gen had far less limitations compared to 3rd gen and before. If anything, devs probably felt like the sky was the limit back then after working on shit like the NES and Master System. 2D gaming arguably peaked in creativity that gen but there was absolutely more freedom than what they had before.

>Digital Devil Saga 2
ew

Body Odor 2 Zombies was fun though.

>come on dude
kill yourself. I've played asscreed 2, there is almost nothing "good" about it and it barely if at all improves on anything from the first one

True enough. It's the weaponization of nostalgia that's more the problem. To this day I'd kill for a proper remake of Uncharted Waters 2 or Sega Shadowrun.

4th gen had more sound channels, more layers, more color palettes, more memory space, but the way games were being made was mostly the same. You had to resort to trickery and fake scrolling effects if you wanted to do anything beyond a sprite moving a screen.

Gen 6 is the perfect meeting place between limitations, freedom and maturity.

>Dual analogs were on their way to become standard already, Halo just made it faster.

In 2001? There were precedents on the PS1 but very, very few of note. Just look at that infamous Alien Resurrection review from Gamespot, which came out in 2000 and criticized the control scheme for being too weird. Halo was definitely the game that got enough people using the control scheme to realize that it actually was a good idea.

fnaf fans on Yea Forums can actually be pretty based since they're gone from wanting to fuck robots to praising an australian mad lad

man, that's a shame about the characters oh well. Also you said it improves on IV's gameplay? I personally like the gameplay, the only real issue I have is the world map so far. It's taking a little to get used to. I still like it, and characters aside, I'm kind of wondering how it improves on gameplay so that should be fun when I get to it.

>Gen 6 is the perfect meeting place between limitations, freedom and maturity.

I agree with this, it did for 3D what 4th did for 2D.

All ARPGs are trash. No exceptions. Dark Souls, Ys, God Eater, whatever. All of them barely have any gameplay. There's no skill, no strategy, nothing. The only ARPG series that comes close to having passable gameplay is Tales.

Is this a GameFAQs list?
>list is 90% JRPGs and Nintendo
>only western games are Bioshock, Jourrney (indie shit), the Portal games, and Inside (indie shit)

Metal Gear Survive is a pretty good game and almost all criticism of the game were youtubers trying to ride the wave of assmad kojimafags

fallout 76 is a fun game and almost everybody on here who calls it shit are just parroting the same bullshit

I know what review you're talking about. That's why I said, it was on its way but Halo made it faster.

Tank controls were on their way out, now with two sticks available, and even the earliest PS2 games already had the normative control schemes in them.

Nintendo is a containment board. The industry would be much shitter if smelly Smash fans, pokemon pedophiles and BING BING WAHOOS were released into the rest of the world.

So the only good Western games?

Fallout 4 was a good game, just lacked some RPG aspects/mechanics and Fallout 76 will be really good once NPCs and private servers get added. Also on a non-Fallout related note, half the games this board likes are good for nothing except porn of the cute weeb girls in them and the other portion of games is gay clunky trash. BFV and Fortnite kick ass.

Best part of Souls games is exploring locations and fighting mobs, bosses are boring and annoying. Which is why Sekiro sucks.

Bioshock is babby's first immersive sim. And Portal is reddit incarnate.

There's a lot of issues with Smirking in IV that they completely turnaround in IV:A to make Smirking a great addition to the game, there's better QoL, most notably in fusion, they fixed the issues with your human party members "assisting" during battle but potentially doing something that can hold you back, like Walter hitting Minotaur with Agi so that he can Smirk while you have no control over it, and there are more improvements beyond that as well. It's very impressive how much they fix from IV.

I want a pony RPG

I like 3D platformers and wish the market for them was bigger

>lacked some RPG aspects/mechanics
No, it lacked lore. An open world RPG that requires you to TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF LMAO will never be good. The world of F4 just doesn't make sense.

It's too bad I liked Fallout because it was an RPG. See how minimizing the RPG elements might be an issue?

What constitutes as "gameplay"? Because stuff like Dark Souls and Ys revolve more around dungeon navigation and properly reading enemy patterns than more traditional JRPG-esque elements.

I forgot to include the GDQ Zelda trannies. Nintendo fans are the fucking worst.

Those are the only good western games

Did Reddit even exist in 2007?

> Waaah muh Secret Club
Kill yourself hipster faggot, nobody cares

I wouldn't say it lacked lore, moreso just fucked up some of the lore.

Mass Effect 1 fucking sucks.

Assassins Creed I, II, Brotherhood, and Black Flag are all good games that have yearly replay value

Fuck off Nocture fag

I don't know user, shops on main streets being unlooted for hundreds of years is just too retarded for me.

>Walter hitting Minotaur with Agi so that he can Smirk while you have no control over it
Thank God, when that happens it just feels like I should just go back and reload a save if there's a shit ton of enemies, so I'm glad that's fixed. Thanks for the heads up user, appreciate and I'm really liking SMT IV so far issues aside.

modern gamers and normies are the cancer killing games

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>inside

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On launch, TERA had orgasmic gameplay, and probably still does. The problem is that the entire rest of the game and the designs surrounding that were so bad (and got worse and worse over time) that not even the gameplay could hold it up. Grinding BAMs on launch solo was fun as hell, and selling Manaya's core runs pre-nerf was probably the peak of the game.

patrician opinion, based

Lackluster bait, try harder next time, nigger.

Which goes back to my point of standardization. I'm not arguing what did an idea first but rather when an idea finally gained traction, and a good amount of ideas gained traction in the 6th gen. 6th gen was a lot of taking the 5th gen's ideas and technical achievements and doing them much better, much like how the 4th took a lot of the 3rd's ideas and technical achievements and did them much better.

>stuff like Dark Souls and Ys revolve more around dungeon navigation and properly reading enemy patterns
And it makes them nothing but walking simulators with occasional button presses here and there.

>that giraffe bug eating leaves and making dick sucking noises

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> Literally cries about how niche western games weren't listed & popular ones were
> Seethes about how "it's bait" after getting called out for his contrarianism bullshit
Cope more

You mean an RPG where all the characters are of the genus equus ferus caballus?

I ask because you mentioned it in a thread the other night and your take stuck out so much that I thought it had to be the same user.

F3 and NV had the same things though? Unlooted buildings don't really count unless it's directly related to a questline of some sort or some other bullshit. I can think of tons of small "untouched" places in older Fallout titles in places like Freeside or downtown D.C. that weren't looted at all. I think its okay to realize that some stuff is purely there for a video game aspect, while other stuff is there as actual lore. Plus a lot can happen in 200 years? Idk, you are right about one thing, its that Fallout lore is a mess no what matter which way you look at it.

Melty Blood is an absolute timeless classic and the best fighting game ever made.

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PSO2 is pretty fun.

...user, that describes a good 95% of video games.

Video gaming is a shit-tier hobby that gives you neither appreciable skills nor a better understanding of the world. Nothing is produced, no insight gained. It's a cheap way to stimulate some dopamine and that's about it.

Open world games fucking SUCK hub based areas are better in every way (Deus Ex, V:tmb) Open world games feel 90% empty and force you to spend forever traveling. It is not enjoyable at all.

Metroidvanias are bad for similar reasons.

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This is just sad. Get some anti-depressants, man.

Grand Chase? I remember it having fun gameplay , though it was lighter on the rpg side

Open worlds and metroidvanias are both great for the type of gamer who values immersion and exploration, though. That may not be you, and that's fine.

Still going at it huh?

Well it’s not a popular take amongst normalfags that’s for sure but they can go die.

That's fine but when what you're exploring is mostly empty space I don't see the point.

Lewdanon.

The NES library is fucking awful. There are like five good games (Mario 3, Megaman 2, Castelvania 3, Punch Out and Star Tropics) and pretty much everything else is just garbage.
Granted, it's not the NES' fault. Video games were going through an awkward transitional period at the time from a focus on arcades to a focus on home consoles and no one really had any idea what to do with it, but seriously the NES is a pretty garbage console.

Open world games suck and I want Zelda to return to the old style

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>_
phoneposter

Have you seen the actual world? Most of it is empty space too, the real spectacular sights are few and far between. But that didn't stop people from exploring it, and it makes the special places that much more remarkable. A lot of the enjoyment is in the journey.

>Megaman 2

Why this game gets so much praise outside of its OST is beyond me. As far as the classic MM goes like 2/3rds of the games are better. 3, 4 and 6 are all better than fucking 2.

Add Zelda 1, that game's still pretty fun today and the randomizer is popular

>But that didn't stop people from exploring it
It kinda did though. When was the last time you were in a forest exploring? Nobody does that. Some retard did it once, did a map, got paid, nobody did it since because it's fucking boring

those are legitimate arguments on the bottom tho

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gross korean fucking ew
please go back to twitter

what are some good RTS RPGs? The concept is sound on paper but every one that I've played has been pretty ass (DOW2, Spellforce)

Well it's probably the only one you played then. But it does a lot of things right, level design, music, even characters and story aren't too bad. But the gameplay is the worst I have ever seen in a game. And sadly, that's what really matters in the end.

I actually did that a lot when I was a kid, we had some woods near the neighborhood and my friends and I would go in and dick around and find cool spots.

I think that Conker's Bad Furday is the worst Rare game for the N64

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I haven't left my house in a year.

I disagree

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Not him, but if you can excuse some sjw writing, Pathfinder Kingmaker is realtime with pause and a pretty decent rpg.

DK64 is far worse

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at least get warmed up before you begin so you don't pull a muscle.

I guess I'll ask if you like anything that doesn't explicitly look like modern anime. Like, what about celebrated Japanese cult classics like Cave Story or Yume Nikki? Or modern indies that clearly draw artistic influence from past Japanese classics like, I dunno, Iconoclasts or Momodora: Reverie Under The Moonlight?

Iktf user. I get too anxious to go out on my own.

I just want to make a non-stop action FPS where everyone are busty girls with realistic graphics (none of that cartoon shit that anume games have) but I'm afraid that people can't take holding the trigger button for more 15 minutes straight.

Nah, at least DK64 has the "so bad it's good" thing going for it.

Tell me why? Conker BFD Has stiffer controls, less gameplay and no collectables and just has linear setpieces to move the game forward. You're going to have make good arguments as to why DK64 is worse

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*Sony

>ignoring the fact that it was Nintendo that actually kept and keeps it alive

If you're a braindead anti sjw sure

>responsible for the casualization of games
Casualization happens because it sells, it's the consumers fault and no one elses

OoT, FFVII, Mario 64 and HL/HL2 are all massively overrated. If you take off your nostalgia goggles and play them again, only OoT and FFVII are even good.

How is Doom niche?

>Normalfags WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND my attraction to drawn children

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>BAN DRAWINGS

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Not controversial, just wrong.

Yamauchi era Nintendo actually was pretty cancerous and his strongarming ways continues to bite the company in the ass even now with third party relations. Plus, he's also the source for some of Nintendo's more unusual practices. Ever wonder why Nintendo games almost never drop in price? It's because Yamauchi would have none of that and basically threatened retailers into doing things his way. Very scary man, didn't like games very much but he liked the money they made.

>Overwatch
>worth playing ever

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Most 3D games of the last 23 years have FAR worse movement than Mario 64. Once you get past his slippery start-up momentum it is absurd what you can get Mario to do.

>Video Games
>so bad it's good
You're gonna have to really elaborate on that one.
DK64 was just a slog to go through. Unless you're some kind of hyper autist who can plan out everything to its most efficient path you're gonna be constantly backtracking through the same shit to get coloured bananas or whatever. A lot of its issues could be fixed by just letting you switch Kongs on the fly, or at least making it easier to switch Kongs than going back to the fucking tag barrel over and over again.
Also, Conker has less gameplay? What do you mean? I guess you can write off a lot of its gameplay sections as gimmicky but they were a lot more fun than DK64's "Open a door to get a key to open a door to get a key to open a door" gameplay loop.
I kind of see Conker as the polar opposite to DK64, with Banjo lying in the center of the Rare N64 games spectrum. It's got less collectibles than DK64's sixty quintillion, but as a whole it feels a lot better designed and you actually feel like you're progressing through the game instead of doing a bunch of menial bullshit that might lead to some kind of payoff.

DK64 was a collectathon for men. If you liked that kind of game design it was, and remains, overflowing with content.

America hasn't made a single good game in years

First person and top views are the best.
Third person can be serviceable but except maybe for melee combat, games would always be better in one of the other two.

Obvious choice would be Warhammer or total war I guess, but idk past that

That's just true, most decent western games nowadays are from European countries.

Yeah man I'd love to play Vanquish in first person.

There should be more games in which you can sex lolis

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pve is warm up, pvp is the real thing

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>300
I thought she was a lot older than that

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No really a problem to be honest. Bulletstorm is about as crazy as Vanquish, maybe a bit slower, but that's just a design choice

ahem

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This

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I take it you're not much for Japanese games? First person and top down is WAY more popular in Western games outside of bullet hells and Wizardry clones. Japan seems to have a strong preference for third person viewpoints in their games.

Sonic Forces is the best SEGA game ever made. Gameplay is far superior than Generations. His friends actually do something rather than doing nothing all the time. Villain is pretty cool.

That's a pretty hot take, I must admit.

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Despite being gacha trash, Granblue Fantasy is more of a MMO than any other modern "MMORPG".

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I played runescape and private servers for many hours a day back when PKing wasn’t ruined by 1 tick ags gmauling and hybridding actually took a monumental amount of skill and reaction timing instead of just comboing a 139 barrage ags gmaul stack with rng and praying your opponent isn’t fast or smart enough to actually prayer switch correctly. Pretty sure that and playing smash bros melee my entire childhood ruined all kinds of action combat games for me since they would never compare. Monster hunter on the 3DS was really good though and I enjoyed Killer is Dead but those still have kind of an anime feel to them.

Does he have downs

I don't think you know what an MMO is

Pretty based taste, user. I'd hang out and drink and play vidya with you.

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Yeah bro but in a world where adult women exist why you gotta jack it to kids?

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>From's Soulshit games are mediocre ARPGs that have to rely on being hard to make up for their lack of depth
>Pokemon is the most rehashed franchise next to fucking Dragon Quest and this shit makes CoD games look unique with every entry in comparison
>That said, CoDfags give Pokefags a run for their money when it comes to gladly eating shit, considering all they want is a below average run and gun shooter that ruined 7th gen redone over and over again for the rest of their lives
>Platinum's Games are all style no substance
Fight me

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Keep dreaming, loli porn is being removed and banned across all sites more and more for good reason.

basically more and more sites are becoming increasingly more SJW is what youre saying.

Yeah, we already knew that. Congratulations.

There should be a video game based entirely around the idea of Runescape's Slayer skill.
The closest we have right now is Monster Hunter but we could go so much further.

Nintendo is the only worthwhile major developer/publisher in the industry.

OHNONONONO NOT THE CUNNY!

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>SJW
>Not pedophiles
You two have more in common than you think!

shame their IPs are stuck on their garbage tier hardware.

>Platinum's Games are all style no substance
Define "substance"

Are you gay user?

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age of empires is the only fun rts

there has never been a fun or even remotely good military sim game

>pedophiles
>being straight

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You take that back Zone of the Enders 1&2 were great.

Japan: Loli/shota everywhere, even sold at public conventions, but low child abuse crime rate

West: Loli/shota banned, yet much more abuse

But its the loli porns fault amiright

Huh, so it's more like action style gameplay has nothing left to really offer you. Makes a bit more sense as to why you'd look a bit more intensely at other aspects of games like artstyle if it feels like you've hit a sort of a wall with gameplay, I guess. Killer is Dead was pretty good too, though I liked No More Heroes more myself.

Souls games aren't hard
Also style is substance

Mario's aesthetic is absolute and utter disgusting fucking trash. How anyone can tolerate a fucking cartoony Italian midget (not)plumber with a high-pitched voice as a protagonist is absolutely beyond me. The non-italian-midget characters are also pretty bad but at least not offensively so.

>but low child abuse crime rate
>he doesn't know Japan has a high crime rate that isn't reported because of appearances
You probably think London is safe as well?

I mean that there's no real strategy when it comes to combat
>Madworld: Just use the same three objects on an enemy before killing them to get the most points
>Vanquish: Shoot the same robot in the head then use boost/slow down to get to the next piece of cover
>Bayonetta: Mash X and Y until you see a red light then dodge
>Fucking same can be said for Nier Automata
>Revengeance: Mash X and Y until Zandatsu

Legalize cheese pizza and watch the cheddar abuse in the west go down.

Yeah ok bro but why do you jack it to drawings of children?

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I'm not even a lolifag, I just find the logic of banfags retarded.

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Vanquish actually has some great depth to it, but it's mostly built on exploits.

Legalize painkillers and watch the nation not have an opioid epidemic. OH SHIT NO WAI

>actually thinks that inaccurate reporting makes that much of a difference.

Even the Japanese them selves feel safe as fuck in their major cities which is usually a hotbed for crime. And i highly doubt they can hide much of their homicide rates which is insanely low.

Face the facts.

If by DS2 you mean SotFS then sure, this ranking is the correct one.

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Who said anything about banning though?

Modern gaming culture in general is fucking shit. At some point, gaming just needs to fucking die.

>giant tournaments filled with sweaty virgins cheering for more sweaty virgins whose one goal in life was "be really good at a video game"
>people giving away their money to soiboys and gurl gaymers because they'll say your name if you do on twitch
>people who use "vidya gaeming" as a lifestyle rather than a fucking hobby, like it should be
>fags who actually care about gay shit like console wars and company loyalty
>fags and soiboys who hyper ventilate about the new smashbros or Zelda or something and post it on facebook and snapchat like "OMG I'm such a HUGE nerd, used to play Zelda Ocarina of Time all the time (My FAVE game btw)"

Fuck modern gaming culture. Sweaty virgin fuckers.

KH3 was also a very bad game.

Because they're decent entry level platformers with plenty of mechanical polish. Also doesn't hurt that his earliest games were massive fucking deals at the time, giving Mario firm roots as an enduring brand.

Interesting fact
>Japan bans real CP (making it wasnt legal, selling old footage was legal)
>Child abuse actually rose to its highest levels ever

Didnt see that one coming. Though i still agree with the ban.

>much of their homicide rates which is insanely low.
>he doesn't even know of the suicide rate linked to rape that goes unreported or when said cases are considered solved

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>I play the games like a button mashing sperg so that means there's no depth or strategy
No, it means you're shit.

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Amusing thing about loli is that America and Japan rejected the united nations loli ban. But still every social media site banned it, facebook, discord and twitter all cited the united nations reasoning. People keep telling themselves the UN doesnt have any power lmao

Gaming doesn't need to die, why would it. None is forcing you to become part of that retardation.

Wowee what like a few percent of suicides are as a result of rape, what a catastrophe for Japan.

Most nations would kill for their problems.

>Keep dreaming
oh I will, about lolis

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fighting games are only worth it if u play constantly with friends for years to come. smash comes to mind but that's not really a traditional fighter

I want to be the Elliot Rogers of gaming and anime. Or maybe the Unabomber is a better comparison. Modern gaming and anime has overstayed their welcome.

>Most nations would kill for their problems.
Japan is already killing themselves by not breeding and killing themselves just fine though. BUT UGGA BUGGA YELLOW MAN PROTECT MY KIDDIE DRAWINGS!

I did not care for Counter Strike. I played for 4 hours since I bought it in 2016 and was really confused why it was so popular. I got more fun out of a fucking free multiplayer browser fps game called BeGone.

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It's always implied, with them. What else do you think they want after pointing out how fucked up loli smut is according to them?

This is only controversial if you lack self-awareness. Modern gaming culture is indeed shit, and the main reason the AAA industry has gone to shit is because it's easy money to pander to this lot. I've never gone around calling myself a "gamer" but I sure as shit would be loathe to ever call myself that anytime in the last decade or so.

Honestly Counter Strike is carried by nostalgia, I played it for a while back in 2015 but it got old when it became doing the same routes and the same accounts of exploiting weapon spread to get head shots

You want to be a faggot? You are already this user!

Actually all of the west is killing them selves too. People forget the fact that birthrates are very similar to Japans, it just that everyone is relying om immigration.

What's the name of the game again? Lost innocence?

based retard

Unironically this. Fighting games rival MMO's as pointless, energy consuming time sinks. Wow, you're good at a fucking children's arcade game? WHAT? Your Chun-Li is top 100 in the WORLD? WOWEE ZOWEE ZOWEE, SO COOL BRO.

Shut the fuck up. And then they start swaggering around like they're hot shit because fighting gamers are "OG" or something. It's incredibly faggy. Almost as faggy as speedrunners, I'd say.

Street Fighter was fun when you were 12, and the N64 was the pinnacle of gaming technology, and most of the fun came from bantering with your friends and convincing the new guy whose parents don't let him play video games that the "seppuku" move was supposed to be a 1 hit KO. It was fun as a kid just fucking around and not taking it seriously. Everything else is just unbelievably stupid.

You're absolutely correct about Pikmin 2. if only because I shitpost about Pikmin all the time

I posted that image and I'm ok with people fapping to drawings. But I'm gonna call a spade a spade.

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I dont care for it being banned but I can understand entirely why it is banned off platforms. Something rabid antisjw types cant seem to process without screeching censorship, go make your own site dedicated to the stuff if you want it that bad instead of posting lolibait threads constantly here

bexause kids are objectively sexier than decaying adults.

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DS3 is the best fromsoft game

>giant tournaments filled with sweaty virgins cheering for more sweaty virgins whose one goal in life was "be really good at a video game"
But game tournaments have always been a thing? EVO’s been around since at least 2002 or older with the Fighting Game Community as an example. Even in the 90s they were a thing.

My only issue with loli porn is that the art style is always so fucking terrible. AS109 and a handful of others know what the fuck they're doing, but everyone else's art is just far too moe and "anime" for my tastes.

>n64
>SF games
what did he mean by this?
>pinnacle of gaming technology
But it was the weakest machine?

Fuck no, give me a woman with sexually mature traits any day. "Decaying adults"? What the fuck even is this backward ass narrative?

Lost Life by happy lamb barn

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user this shit is creepy as fuck.

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For me, it's hebe. 8-14 is generally the best range.

>What the fuck even is this backward ass narrative?
That is a pedo you retard.

GunZ was fun and I played that a lot too but they removed all skill-intensive shit that made it fun like k-style in the sequel after the original died. When action games dumb down their gameplay every sequel or new release or turn into movie shit then of course I'm going to switch to more turn-based games where the artstyles are varied and there are a ton to choose from and they actually try to improve the gameplay every new game or sequel that comes out and make it more challenging. I still can't stand artstyles like Stranger of Sword City's non anime one for either action or turn-based games though.

>ds3 being better than des and bb
Acquire better taste

I get that but it's weird as hell to put that kind of spin on the stance not preferred. It almost reads like a quick shot of propaganda, it's perturbing.

When youre posting stuff like this dont cry when someone calls you a pedo

>creepy
>perturbing
where do you think you are? What is this, a soccer mom club?

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Digimon games are getting better and better while pokemon games are getting worse

>controversial opinions thread
>opinions
What you just posted was a fact user

If you want to be a lolifag then whatever. I just think it's off-putting how you describe adults as "decaying", like you're putting it out there that adults are disgusting and unattractive while children are not "decaying" and therefore ideal. I don't care about you're fetish but your undertones were indeed pretty fucking creepy. It's something I'd expect some mouthbreathing creep who needs to awkwardly feel the soft, unblemished flesh of a child to get his rocks off to say. Far be it from me to think you're a bit of a fucking weirdo for putting something like that out there.

>Digimon games
didn't even know about these. i thought digimon wasn't popular enough to make games out of let alone being better than mainstream pokemon.

Digimon has had games since like the PS1.

were they good then or have they started getting good recently.

A lot of lolifags do associate 2d loli with real kids all the time and those specific ones should be called out

Most of this shit isn’t just the mainstream gaymer culture that can be avoided
As for esports I think it’s fine and at least the players in them have a goal in life

I personally don't know, but I am kind of aware of the somewhat positive reception of the Cyber Sleuth games this gen. I only know of the older ones because oddly enough my little brother has one of them.

I think censorship is wrong and you can have good games with tits and ass too.