How many people do you think actually went back to Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie after the Smash announcement?

BK is actually much better than Tooie. Tooie is too big for its own good.

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Probably a lot.

I plan on playing both again with my bf soon

>hating DK64

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I would have if I hadn't replayed it a month in advance out of anticipation.

why would anyone want to play that shit game outside of it being the only game they had as a kid? why would they want to play the game again outside of nostalgia? Rare has never made a good game period. The only people who enjoy anything rare has made are mouth breathing retards who don't have the intelligence or patience to play or enjoy anything with mechanics.

Playing Tooie rn

I was in the middle of a 2nd Tooie playthrough.

I've seen gameplay vids of Kazooie and it looks alot more concise and fast.

Tooie does have a really big "adventure" feel to it but it does turn into such a chore when you eventually realize you have to travel to different levels and complete five goddamn steps for a Jiggy.

best decision you ever made in your life

I already replayed both games twice last year, so I didn't.

>stevecucks still coping
LOL

BKs move set is significantly more limited and you will probably get frustrated about having to wait till about 4 levels in until you have access to the full suite of C buttons.

implying minecuck is any better unless you can't get enough legos IRL

We get it, Banjokes, you won. You finally won, and got your character. You got your wish, but not the humble way others have done so. You didn’t politely wait and be relaxed like the rest of us. You spent the last several months throwing tantrums when your echo chambers had people merely poking some fun, and got vicious at fans of Minecraft, even children on Twitter.
You don’t deserve this. You don’t deserve any of this. This is the equivalent of petting a rabid dog after it ate your grandma. It’s not right, and this is a game for children, the target audience of Minecraft. And you took that away from them.
Minecraft fans may have only showed up just for smash 4, but they were really excited for Steve. Do you know how many kids’ hearts were shattered because Minecraft wasn’t coming after all? A lot, and you’re all being greedy jerks, rubbing salt in the wound.
You may have gotten your characters, but at what cost? Just know that someone’s little brother went to cry himself to sleep that E3 night knowing his dreams of playing as Steve in the biggest gaming crossover ever was all for nothing.

Hi paddipoop.

DK64 is a fun platformer. Unlike Tooie it's not overly ambitious, it's just the most collectathon collectathon of all time. Good luck trying to 100% it because it's a nightmare. Tooie just gets annoying because you have to constantly backtrack. I dont remember if DK64 required backtracking other than going back to old levels once you got a new character, but every character had a certain amount of bananas, coins, and character specific golden bananas per level and you also had to constantly switch between characters in certain situations. Not to mention those blueprints where you needed a certain amount to make sure you had plenty of time in the final area.

A lot of fags went back and played it hoping it will magically bring the character faster to smash.

>Just know that someone’s little brother went to cry himself to sleep that E3 night
Good

I'm in the minority but I like Tooie more. The giant scale of the levels led to more empty areas, sure, but it also led to more creative Jiggy placement than the majority of Kazooie's.

>implying that you aren't the little brother who cried like a little bitch

Tooie might have more creative Jiggy placement, but I think it ends up taking a lot more away from collecting Notes and Jinjos

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if i want a chill and smooth gaming experience, i go for kazooie. if i want something big and sprawling, i go for tooie. i honestly love them both pretty equally, even if for different reasons. kazooie has more charm, though.
i revisited kazooie after b-k got announced. always a classic.

I did, really enjoying it so far. Might play Tooie and Grunty's Revenge later.

Having played all three, I think dk 64 is definitely worse. The levels feel like leftover "b-side" that were scrapped from Kazooie (the Fungi Forest water music is further evidence of this) and it also feels like a guinea pig for some of Tooie's ambitious features such as the warp pads and the different playable characters. It's like it's stuck in an awkward development state between Kazooie and Tooie (probably because it was). I don't understand why people like to shit on it so much though, it's decent enough to play.

Recently played BK, it's pretty fun so far

but damn it's hard to play on a keyboard

>poking fun
>stevefags literally made an animation where steve rapes, vores, and analvores Banjo.

I don't know about went back to but it made a lot of people play it for the first time.

The rare replay is the best way to play the banjo trilogy (fuck nuts and bolts is good) you can find for like 10 bucks which is cheaper than buying each of them separately also it fixes the notes in Kazooie and adds stop and swap.

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I replayed Banjo-Kazooie after finding a green N64 controller at half price books, I don't even know why I bought it, but a week later I had a USB adapter and played through Kazooie and had a great time.
After the smash announcement I was hankering for more and I gave Tooie another go, had an absolutely fantastic time barring maybe two minigames and Canary Mary.
But according to most of the internet I'm insane because I both think Tooie is more fun and I genuinely like the N64's controller.

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Doing a whole series playthrough right now, got Kazooie and Gruntys Revenge down gonna do Tooie next. Then Banjo Pilot, then Nuts and Bolts

I've been meaning to do another run of the original since I haven't done one in a while.

I got 102% or whatever on DK64. It's ass.

Banjo getting into smash means interacting with all the retards who thought Banjo-Kazooie had any merit and that the series was any thing more than an inferior Mario64 all over again.

I had fun renting the game as a child but even when I was 14 I knew it was a shit game.
Weak 3d platformer and fucking terrible collectathon.

DK64 was buggy as shit dude. Its easily the most janky game ever made

I played this because it was the only banjo game i had not played
Pretty good, but the controls make this a bit more harder than i thought.

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bing bing

>tfw there’s a memory leak that crashes the game and rare had no idea to fix it so they made you use an expansion pak because it gives you more memory to leak and it would take longer to crash
>tfw the conker team publicly shat on the dk/banjo team because they managed to optimize their game and have so much shit without crashing or using the expansion pak

I'm planning on doing so after I finish Dragon Quest 3

is it weird that i want to fuck a jinjo

Was it really? I only remember the abhorrent backtracking thanks to color-coded bananas.

I started playing Tooie. I beat it a few times back in the day but in the last few years I have played it I get around 3/5ths in and quit.

Little bit.
What color, though.

stevefags eternally BTFO

I replayed Banjo Kazooie on my old N64 after their announcement. The game still holds up

Might play BK after I wrap up DQ3.

>I didn't like X as much as Y and the only way I'll feel like my opinion will get acknowledged is if I'm hyper aggressive about it.

Is the last cheato page literally unobtainable on xbox?

Heh. Have a (You), kid.

People really slept on this game, it's better than it has any right to be

I've literally never played any of the Banjo games. Worth it?

I've been contemplating trying to 100% that save file I never completed as a kid.

If you mean what I'm sure you mean there's an incredibly specific way to do it.
Don't mash A, just keep pace with Mary until you get to the very end. Right before then STOP pressing A, let her get a little bit ahead of you and then slam on the A button to zip ahead right at the finish line.
If you do anything else she rubberbands ahead right at the end, even if you feel like you've kept up with her or have a safe lead.

Is it the Canary Mary one in Cloud Cuckooland?

No, you just need to work with the rubberband AI and keep up with her until you're near the end and then mash like a madman

Do it.

grey

user that's necrophilia.

Currently playing it for the first time. Fun so far.

>I got 102% or whatever on DK64
you're ass

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OH NONONONONO

>Weak 3D platformer
The fuck are you talking about? BK handles exceptionally well. It's engine is fantastic too.

BK is the only essential Banjo game, and one of the best collectathons ever. Then, if you're really starving for more, play Tooie. If you have the free time and want to try some weird shit for the hell of it then go for Nuts & Bolts.

It warrants all the praise it receives.

I played it a few years back and remember enjoying it. Had a similar feel to it that the GBA Sypro games I grew up with had.

Can you explain your point?

this is the banjo threeie we deserved. i wish someone would make a rom hack of banjo tooie recreating this game in it's entirety.

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not if i fuck a grey jinjo from grunty's revenge, then i'll save the grey jingos' race from extinction and have a 10 jinjo harem afterwards, with one being a different color

Do Jinjos have genitals?

Banjo-Kazooie's legacy is defined by Banjo-Tooie, not Banjo-Kazooie.

>tfw want Rare Replay but don't want to buy an xbone since I already have everything else I want on PS4 and Switch
Feels bad man

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Kazooie is far better than Tooie, definitely give it a go. I will warn you, though, Mad Monster Mansion and especially Rusty Bucket Bay are pieces of shit.

I'm sure it'll come to PC eventually

Dumb steve faggot

Holy fuck you must have an absolutely shriveled and dysfunctional little brain. Tooie is the far better game, and Mad Monster Mansion and Rusty Bucket Bay are Kazooie's strongest levels.

I actually never finished Tooie since I played it right after 100%ing Kazooie which kinda burnt me out.
I was already considering getting back to it because of the X enhancements but the announcement pushed me over the edge.
I'll probably play Nuts & Bolts too.

>Just know that someone’s little brother went to cry himself to sleep that E3 night knowing his dreams of playing as Steve in the biggest gaming crossover ever was all for nothing.
Good. I introduced my little brother to Banjo-Kazooie recently and he already likes the concept of them being in Smash Bros more than Steve

Me. I 100%'d Kazooie the day of the announcement and the following one and have been playing Tooie on and off since then, only missing Cloud Cuckooland and the final world now. Good fucking games.

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I was tempted to but I'm waiting for the release of the Rare Replay collection on the Switch until I play them again.

Guilty
>19 years later and my girl is finally getting the love she deserves

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Says the person with absolutely no taste. Grow up from that edgy kid phase of yours, it's about time.

yeah. they have a thing called jinjenitals and it's tucked into their crotches so that's why you can't see it dangling between their legs in the games

Based, I feel like Banjo works for every age group.
He and Kazooie are just such fun characters.

Sabi the person that leaked most everything at E3 says Rare Replay is coming to the Switch eventually, for whatever that's worth to you

How the fuck is that edgy?

Grow up from your own child phase and you might start being able to process level design more complicated than Treasure Trove Cove.

This.

Would that come with the Xbox games post CFBD, and add in the DK titles, or perhaps that should also update the game with including the GB games

nailed it

the people who like shit like TTC and Freezeezy blow my mind

>most of the internet
Most of obsessed faggots who weren't born yet when the games launched. Anybody who grew up with them enjoyed both.

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>Rare Replay is coming to the Switch eventually
>don't broadcast this huge fucking news at E3

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Pretty sure they said there would be changes to the lineup on the Switch version

>you must have an absolutely shriveled and dysfunctional little brain
That sounds like a petty insult only an edgy kid would even consider using in a discussion about a kiddie video game featuring a cuddly bear that speaks in gibberish. Cringy as fuck.
Rusty Bucket Bay's one-hit KO shit like the pits, turbines, and poisonous water make it a real pain in the neck to collect all musical notes. That isn't good design, it's tedious as hell.

He's probably one of those fags who can't stomach anything that isn't happy wonderland hunky dory fun time for the whole family and denounces Tooie just because it has a darker tone.

If you think Tooie can be considered dark then you seriously haven't played anything outside of stuff made for literal kids.

>Hating on Freezeezy Peaks

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Me. I played Kazooie for the first time over last weekend, and I'm planning on playing Tooie next time I'm at someone's house with an Xbox.

Cloud Cuckooland was a mistake.

Kazooie and Tooie are two different types of collectathons with almost entirely different characters and stories, why do we have to do "hurr which one better" when they're so dissimilar

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Also known colloquially as a jingaling.

He said darker, not dark and it's most definitely darker then Kazooie.

There's only the one OHKO. As long as you get that out of the way first, collecting the notes isn't hard. It's just a matter of knowing how to prioritize the level.

If you can't discern that Tooie is darker than Kazooie despite neither of the games being dark in general, you're not very smart.

First time I play ocarina of time was on a keyboard and it was hell, I couldn't beat the forest temple boss
Just buy a cheap third party xbox controler my friend.

I started emulating the XBLA version because of smash

>nothing Tooie related in Smash besides the Breegull Bash
I bet they won't even have Humba or Jamjars

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Tell em

There could be plenty of reasons for that
One example being that they're saving the announcement for closer the Banjo's Smash release to keep hype rolling.
Another being it's not close to ready
It could be a variety of things, yes even it not being true
It could even be a random announcement.

Because the core mechanics in the game are all the same.

The size of levels would have been perfect for littering 100 notes through the level more carefully, as breadcrumbs, but instead they put them in baskets here or there. Banjo and Kazooie are also too slow, they should have gotten speed upgrades very early on in the game. Banjo feels average and Kazooie feels fast in the original since levels are smaller and more focused, but Tooie is an adventure game. Kazooie should go speed-shoes fast by default and Banjo should go Kazooie speeds by default. At least after an early-game upgrade. The problem isn't that it's too big in itself, it's that the size of levels wasn't properly accomodated.

Tons of zoomers will now ruin the banjo kazooie community. It happens with all smash characters.

Grenade Eggs

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There were grenade eggs and Banjo was seen using Kazooie as a gun

>Grenade Eggs
>Grip Grab
>FPS mode for shooting eggs
>Beak Bayonet from the FPS mode
Based retard

Yeah, just like Smash fans ruined Street Fighter, Bayonetta, Persona 5, Final Fantasy, and Dragon Quest, right?

And grip grab technically if you can even count that

it probably will have DK64 and diddy kong racing

They ruined Castlevania and Persona

Any Banjo-Kazooie discussion for the last 10 years or so has been ruined by bitterness so it's just trading one evil for a lesser one, honestly.

My little brother loves Banjo. Kids love Banjo. He's a very kid-friendly character.

lmao no they didn't

To be fair, they did add warp points

It has to be said every thread doesn't it.
There was never any conflict or opposing viewpoints between the two games up until the smash announcement when the steve-cult got their asses handed to them. Suddenly all these posts start popping up a week later in BK threads taking every single little nitpicking difference between the two games and pushing them to radical opposing extremities. It's a group trying to get petty revenge with divide and conquer 101. Several anons have already proven it in previous threads.

okay zoomie

they're not the same game in my opinion. one is 64 esque the other is Odyssey esque

you like them for different reasons

JINJO *tiriti*
wiiiiiiii

We wouldn't even need warp points if we could just consistently travel faster.

fucking nobody because its not on the god damn switch store

Banjo is kid friendly, Kazooie is more adult, that's why the pair works

But I had arguments with people about Kazooie vs Tooie long before they were announced for Smash...

What community? The franchise was dead before the Smash announcement. No one talked about it outside of Smash speculation.

Sure you have.

Who fucking knows user? People get mad when more people are going to play their series now. I love that Smash is finally going to possibly get DQ big in the west, for example.

@467723238
why don't you go dilate somewhere else, preferably at your trannie discord and leave the real men to there own business, like being in smash

Tooie and DK64 are better so if you didn't enjoy those you probably won't like Kazooie.

I always liked Tooie more but I remember it being seen as subpar compared to Kazooie, on GameFAQS and Yea Forums especially, its only recently that I see a lot of support for it

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>it's edgy to think one game with a bear and bird adventuring is better than its predecessor

boards.fireden.net/v/thread/419019337/

>DK64
>better
DK64 is an agonizingly bad game

Exactly, stupid elitist gatekeepers act as if their franchise is some sort of secret kool kids club where they're only allowed. Then they cry about the franchise falling into obscurity and not getting any more games because it just doesn't have a wide appeal for developers to even bother touching it. They should be grateful that Smash is giving it a time in the spotlight, it could be the trigger it needs to get a new game. Instead they bitch about "le zoomers oh no!"
It was more about the insult "you must have an absolutely shriveled and dysfunctional little brain," but I guess you also have a shriveled and dysfunctional little brain for not being able to follow a conversation.

People have been making this argument ever since that Game Grumps episode

I can't wait until we see Banjo's victory screen animations.

I can't wait to see him knock on the screen, clear his throat and then give a thumbs-up that will be in a GIF that gets posted forever

I can't wait to see him do that goofy stomping dance and bow that he does when you get all ten Jiggies in a stage

The third will either be original or him strumming on his Banjo and posing like the end of the intro screen for BK

Giving him a (You) just to spite you.

If you don't want to give him attention, don't fucking post in the first place. Faggot.

It's missing 4 stages though. I want to see it finished and in 3D.

almost done with that one, only issue really is the perspective.

I want this to be one of them

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>I can't wait to see him do that goofy stomping dance and bow that he does when you get all ten Jiggies in a stage
the bow is a taunt in the trailer user

youtube.com/watch?v=ONTcbWFw-k4

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It was seen as a personal preference thing with a lot of people leaning Tooie until 6 years ago when Grant Kirkhope went on Guest Grumps and a bunch of zoomers took a composers hot take on game design as gospel.

Evidence: gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/196695-banjo-tooie/43142146

I agree with you. Tooie needs its last stage, and the notes should be spread through the stage. It has lost the metaphor about Banjo-Kazooie beating Gruintilda by using the power of the notes. But some user said that Jamjar sings the song, that's why he needed the notes to teach the moves... still... they need to fix that.

A speed upgrade would've been great.

>On an N64
TECHNOLOGY

I went back to kazooie but only because rare replay just hit gamepass

I could swear that there were victory animations that were basically extended versions of a character's taunts

I just wish they had adapted the original plot of project dream to another IP.

>Rare
>Start developing a game about pirates
>Have the story, character, even the fucking ost
>youtube.com/watch?v=N8QNNYSOG_A
>No, let's make sea of thieves
>A souless boring multiplat
>also let's put salt in the wound with pic related

I distrust them
If a new game or remake is on the way they will find a way to fuck it up.

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That's the note door bow, not the jiggy dance

Interesting. Good to know things don't change.

>Then they cry about the franchise falling into obscurity and not getting any more games because it just doesn't have a wide appeal for developers to even bother touching it.
Listen up, little zoomzoom.
There reason the franchise feel into obscurity is because the proprietors of it completely fucked up it's direction. The rights for the IP fell into the hands of people that did not care about the series beyond getting it out of Nintendo's hands. Its not for a lack of demand that the series ended. It was due to poor management and direction.

My mistake, it was 101%.

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He does the same dance and bow for ten Jiggies

>Dragon Kazooie alt gets in Smash
>Used by every BK player online
Can't wait...

Not as an alt. Possibly a spirit, but I would not bet on it at all.

I want a mumbo skin with humba wumba in his backpack

I did for the first time, currently on tooie and so far its worlds are larger but the game feels so much tighter
both are equal in my estimation
after I finish tooie should I play gruntys revenge and nuts and bolts?

haha lol

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BK is like Cloud, if you don't use the classic colors you're undoubtedly a little kid

There's usually three right? Assuming they are using Jiggy Fanfare as the victory theme I'm guessing it's something like
>1. The Jiggy Dance from B-K, complete with Kazooie eating the Jiggy on the last note
>2. Banjo and Kazooie playing along to the theme song, ending with the pose from the trailer
>3. Starting off with Kazooie pecking the back of Banjo's head and giggling, when she tried to do it again Banjo grabs her neck and it ends on this pose

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I have them both on xbox 360 probably going to replay them soon

I tried to play Tooie for the first time a week ago. I honestly couldn't make it past Witchyworld. Not because it was hard, but so fucking tedious sometimes. Some Jiggy requirements seem easy as fuck to get, like the Witchyworld one where you have to just literally climb a 20 second ladder and backflip. Then you have the long as hell ones, one I haven't even done yet but I know it's probably long as hell is to get Mrs. Boggy's kids back. I apparently need a move from the fourth world to even complete it, and it's hard even trying to locate them. Not to mention, in levels like Glitter Gulch Mine, there's way too many sub areas and I can't tell which one is which half of the time. Kazooie never had any of these problems, and no Jiggy ever felt too long. Sure, there were short ones, but as long as there's some hard to get ones I'm fine. Meanwhile Tooie ranges from "short" to "do 5 different tasks first then you get one" I also think that Kazooie has more replay value as well but that's just me.

Grunty's Revenge absolutely. It really feels like a proper Banjo-Kazooie game just smaller scale and isometric.

Nuts and Bolts maybe, the sarcastic, almost derogatory tone it takes with the player and series probably won't sting as bad now that they've got a happy ending.

>one I haven't even done yet but I know it's probably long as hell is to get Mrs. Boggy's kids back
Literally so fucking easy
You just feed two of them and get the dodgems up and running for the third IIRC

And the switches to open the food stands are retardedly easy to find, one is right there behind the food stand and the other is on the building Mrs. Boggy is next to.

>I have to go BACK to levels??? NOOOOOO

Most of the later jiggies require a lot of setup to execute but once you get your ducks in a row you can usually hit rattle them out in rapid succession

Must have just been my bad luck, then. I encountered the kid that you needed to carry back first, and I haven't found any of the other ones yet. To be fair though I haven't went in the space attraction yet.

I think with Tooie you should worry about getting as many moves as you can more than as many Jiggies as you can in each world, since the requirement for each world is fairly low

I really hate all these posers coming straight from smash bros into series that I actually care about and shitting everything up with their garbage opinions and e-celeb parroting.

>Not to mention, in levels like Glitter Gulch Mine, there's way too many sub areas and I can't tell which one is which half of the time
Every single tunnel is differentiated. They either glow the color of the lighting in that part of the cave or are LITERALLY LABELED. The only ones I still have trouble with are the two at both ends of the minecart track, I always think I'm gonna go into one and go into the other instead

Playing through Banjo-Tooie right now.

So far, Glitter Gulch Mine > Witchyworld > Jolly Roger's Lagoon > Mayahem Temple >>>>>> Terrydactyland

Oh that's right, you do have to get the ability to pick him up in Banjo's bag, pretty sure that's only like a world over, though. IIRC you might even be able to access it in that one part of Terrydactyland that you can get to from Mayahem Temple

Childhood is idolizing Banjo
Adulthood is realizing Kazooie made more sense

Just don't collect the jiggies you don't think are worth it, you don't need as many of them to beat the game as in the first one.

Yes, in fact that's exactly what you should do. Someone said treat Tooie like a Metroidvania, as in never worry about getting 100% on a level or area until you max out the movelist.

I can see them filling up two alts with Dragon Kazooies. Naturally we need to get the Tooie shootout skins (2-4) and we already have the Mumbo color confirmed (5). I'm also fond of having one alt with Banjo as a black bear.

Terrydactyland has some really cool stuff but it's enjoyment is kneecapped by the cave entrances that aren't differentiated in any way and the tedium of switching between T-Rex forms which is like a 4-5 step process

Yeah, I did notice the signs. I didn't know they were differently colored though. Also, I still wasn't used to using the warp pads when I did Glitter Gulch, so I was mostly walking everywhere.

This is very accurate

Although you can still 100% the first two or three nigh effortlessly with one return visit shortly after leaving the first time

user you have to use the 7th alternate color
there's forces we need to appease

Tooie isn't that bad once you use the superbanjo cheat to make the walk speed faster.

Yeah Glitter Gulch Mine is actually really smart, if you pay close attention it's easy to keep track of things but if you don't it feels endless and impossible to navigate.

Ironically they managed to make a bunch of tunnels into a good level but then fucked up the differentiated entrances thing on Terrydactyland. If they ever do a remake they should add cave paintings that are tells for what's inside to the cave entrances

Played through Kazooie for the first time last week.
Gobi's Valley > Mad Monster Mansion > Click Clock Wood > Treasure Trove Cove > Freezeezy Peak > Bubblegloop Swamp > Rusty Bucket Bay > Mumbo's Mountain > Clanker's Cavern

I hope we get a skin that's just Banjo and Kazooie with sunglasses on like in the credits scene of Kazooie

DEFINITIVE STAGE RANKINGS

KAZOOIE:
Click Clock Wood
Treasure Trove Cove
Freezeezy Peak
Mad Monster Mansion
Rusty Bucket Bay
Gobi's Valley
Clanker's Cavern
Mumbo's Mountain
Bubblegloop Swamp

TOOIE:
Jolly Roger's Lagoon
Glitter Gulch Mine
Witchyworld
Mayhem Temple
Clock Cuckooland
Terrydactyland
Grunty Industries
Hailfire Peaks

Just wait until cloud cuckoland

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>so much hate for Terrydactyland

This makes me sad

Because Yea Forums has to argue over everything instead of accepting that they're both 10/10 platformers from the golden age of 3D platforming.

I went to it before it. And I wasnt even really expecting or 100% sure they would make it, genuinely surprised.

There are even cave paintings just like that at the train station. If they had just slapped it over the cave entrance to it, it would have been nice. Then the caveman tribes could have their own insignia painting and the River Passage would be easy enough to remember on its own since it connects the bodies of water.

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>playing Cloud Cuckooland, inside the mountain
>go through a tunnel at the bottom of the mountain
>come out at top on the different side of the mountain

I know that's exactly what they there going for, but god damn that can get confusing especially when you are like 10

If you don't think Grunty Industries is the best level in the series then I can't take your opinion seriously, sorry

>loses the Spectrum and Xbox games
>gains GB-GBA games and N64 games
>no DK games (Nintendo already owns them and can release their own collection) besides 64 and Diddy Kong Racing (because it has Banjo in it)
Might be cool.

>Hailfire lower than GI
>Mayahem not being bottom
Shit taste.

>Click Clock wood first
>Jolly Roger's Lagoon first

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If their get up attack is Kazooie pecking to the side you definitely can.

>>loses the Spectrum and Xbox games
only thing to be sad about is losing Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise

suck it, stevie. suck it long and suck it hard

was Jet Force Gemini in the original Rare Replay?

>Collect items of arbitrary importance
>another Item of arbitrary importance appears from under a rock
>But there are pretty colors everywhere so your LSD-soaked toddler brain interprets this as pleasant
10 is too old to play this game. Playing it literally makes me feel stupid. I can't do it

It was. A fair few 64 games were.

Yes, you could aim with the second stick this time

The DKC games actually weren't seen in the datamines for the SNES online stuff awhile back

polygon.com/2019/1/14/18182007/nintendo-switch-online-snes-games

Maybe it's a sign?

Rare made 1 good 3-D game and it was Perfect Dark. I don't know why smash zoomers are so
"hyped" over some shitty kids game.

For me it's Click Clock Woods> Mad Monster Mansion> Rusty Bucket Bay> Freezeezy Peak>Clanker's Cavern>Treasure Trove> Gobi's Valley>BubbleGloop Swamp>Mumbo's Mountain

HailFire Peaks>Witchy World>Jolly Roger's Lagoon>Glitter Gulch Mine>Cloud Cuckooland>Terrydactyland>Grunty Industries>Mayahem Temple

I am 99.9% sure Nintendo already fully owns DK64

you are trying too hard little stevie

TTC was good, but yes fuck everything about freezeezy except for the music
and that is a good thing

redpill me on banjo lore, why does grunty own everything

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BEST OF THE BEST TIER
Click Clock Woods
Grunty's Industry

GOD TIER
Gruntilda's Lair
Treasure Trove Cove
Clankers Cavern
Freezeezy Peak
Isle O' Hags
Mayahem Temple
Glitter Gulch Mine
Jolly Roger's Lagoon
Hailfire Peaks

GREAT TIER
Mad Monster Mansion
Rusty Bucket Bay
Witchyworld
Spiral Mountain (Grunty's Revenge)
Bad Magic Bayou
Showdown Town

GOOD TIER
Gobi's Valley
Terrydactyland
Breegull Beach
Spiller's Harbor
Freezing Furnace
Banjoland
LOGBOX 720

MEH TIER
Mumbo's Mountain
Bubblegloop Swamp
Cloud Cuckooland
Cliff Farm

SHIT TIER
Nutty Acres

T I N Y TIER
Spiral Mountain (Kazooie, Tooie, and Nuts and Bolts)
Cauldron Keep
Test-O-Track

PERSONAL FAVORITE
Isle O' Hags

I didn't fully beat Nuts and Bolts last time I played it so I can't rate Terrarium of Terror or Jiggoseum. Doing a series replay now though so I'm finally gonna beat it.

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As long as he's wearing surf shorts

Grenade eggs are in their moveset you fag
The last scene is a reference to a jiggy in Tooie you fag.

Why is the Smashboard raider NEVER subtle with his massive samefag effort?

These are all one person, everyone. Just ignore this shitposter

keep seething child.
I'll keep playing good games while you play childrens games like smash and banjo

>Can't name the Bregull Blaster
>calls others retards
You deserve to be banned for being such a filthy underage

yeah man anyone old enough to grow up playing N64 games is still a child you seething fucking moron
go back to crying to pewdiepie about how minecraft is the greatest game ever and how sakurai betrayed you

Dirty phone poster here.

Nice try

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CCW is held back for me by the season changing mechanic. It's a nice idea and the level looks great in the different seasons but the actual implementation feels a little clunky to me.

>Smashboards phone raider used MS paint
So why are you here?

It's a pretty safe bet to say you never heard of banjo before the smash trailer

Smashboards is what stevefags in their tranny discord talk about. Get the fuck out of here.

>If you play Kazooie music Spiral Mountain looks like it does at the start of Banjo-Kazooie
>If you play Tooie music Spiral Mountain looks like it does at the start of Banjo-Tooie after Gruntilda's attack

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Wakie wakie Stevie cope and seethey

>implying kids don't like Banjo

Banjo and Kazooie weren't even in Smashboards top 10 most wanted characters.

I highly recommend GR. It doesn't get enough love.

Can't wait to hear your take on Grunty Industries. It's either the best or the worst to most people.

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>remember playing this as a kid
>can't find it anywhere
>not even the box
Damn.

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The current steve discord narrative is that we come from smashboards. Which is stupid because I haven't been on there in 10 years.

>Tfw star fox adventures will be the only GameCube game on the switch

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Oh damn. Now I want a ruined Spiral Mountain track in the game. Bring me back to the McDonalds N64 booths where I just went around bashing goblins, wondering what all the eggs and feathers were for.

I think the big discrepancy between the two games is this:

Banjo-Kazooie asks only an afternoon or two of your time in exchange for a fun little adventure getting a 100% out of the game.

But with Tooie, between the cinematic as fuck several hour intro, the bastard jiggies, the brutally hard final few worlds, and the time investment, you REALLY want to have to play Banjo-Tooie to get into it properly. But it pays out dividends in satisfaction if you do. Conquering Tooie feels damn good.

You could literally replay Kazooie at the drop of a hat whenever you're feeling down and wanted a pickmeup if you felt like it whereas even though I prefer Tooie I can't imagine replaying more than every couple of years (although I'm making an exception this time since Banjo is in Smash and I replayed Tooie just a few months ago) because it's such an investment compared to Kazooie.

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I'm playing through BK right now and uh...yeah, "travel through different levels, 5 steps for 1 jiggy" does sound like a pain in the dick.

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Kids don't know who Banjo is. Do you not know how culture works?

>Smashboards buzzwords
>we
So why are you raiding, Samefag Smashboards fag?

They do now

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Tempted to start up a new game of BK on my N64 now, fuck I haven't started up this cartridge in well over a decade.

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Kazooie > Tooie and MMM isn't great but Rusty Bucket Bay is probably Kazooie's best level.

Retard.

It’s likely that Nintendo changed their line up at the last second. There was an e3 (that also had Microsoft and Bethesda shit) leak that got everything right except for two things a warioware for the switch and a 2.5d Metroid game. I doubt the leaker would add fake shit with his real stuff

>Using MSpaint
Nigger, literally just edit the HTML.
what kind of subhuman are you?

>They do now
No? Not a single kid knows who he is.

It's fine, there's really only a handful of jiggies in the entire game like that. If you have a mind to you can easily access the final fight without the bastard jiggies

>Castlevania
Maybe? Hard to ruin something that is dead.
>Persona
Boy oh boy, how new are you? Personafags ruined their community way before Smash.

I played them for the first time. Kazooie was awesome, Tooie a bit less so but still very enjoyable.

Are you seriously thinking that a Smashboards rosterfag would have the brainpower to know how to edit an HTML?

They're in Smash, they do now.

Cope, Cubecuck.

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>I'm not a Stevecuck I'm just really mad about Banjo Kazooie for OTHER REASON

Nice try faggot.

You can generally complete 70-80% of each level without any revisits. Most of them are just backtracking, but there are some terrible ones if you want 100%

>Just know that someone’s little brother went to cry himself to sleep that E3 night knowing his dreams of playing as Steve in the biggest gaming crossover ever was all for nothing.

If that was his dream then he needs to develop extremely late-term SIDS

Minecraft and Legos are not remotely similar.
The appeal of legos is all the interconnected pieces, it's very satisfying. Minecraft is unga bunga in comparison.

People make it out to be way worse than it is. Expect it to be different than Kazooie going in and you'll save yourself a lot of disappointment.

>people who complain about Gruntilda not rhyming in Tooie

I just got to the second floor. I love it so far.

>They're in Smash, they do now.
Well, no. They're DLC. And we know DLC sells a micro-fraction of the main game. Sooo how do kids know who they are?
>C-Cope
Says the guy who will spend the rest of his life defending his character in Roster threads. Seems like you lost since Steve mindraped you to the point where you see him everywhere.

Banjo is in the game for his oneshot cameo, and you legit don't have the ability to enjoy it. Who won again?

>the Jinjo king isn't a hereditary position, the most endowed Jinjo is the ruling Jinjo

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>cope
>everyone is steve
>STEVE STEVE STEVE STEVE STEVE
>literally living rent free in your head
Yep. You're a SmashBoards raider

Wasn't Banjo-Kazooie one of the most popular Xbox 360 Arcade games?

Bad for them.

Oh man, this is some nice asspain. Primo stuff. You don't get asspain like this on a daily basis, this is the good shit.

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No? Like, not even slighty. Hell Rare Replay kinda sold like shit

>Well, no. They're DLC.
>this is not being in a videogame in 20-fucking-19
Give it up stevefag

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boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/ 1519533621615/
>Almost every post is obsessing over Steve
Oh no no no no no no. Looks like you've become another mindless Steve Slave

You give me lots of opportunities to be smug as hell

>CURRENT YEAR
>[character]fag
so why are you raiding Yea Forums? Did your Smashboards group tell you to?

I feel like your enjoyment of Tooie relies entirely on how well you can memorize level layouts. If you can't, you're gonna get lost all the time. This must be why people suffer through Grunty Industries.

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>Banjo gets in
>NOTHING changes with Banjofags and they still completely live on Yea Forums roster threads
WHY EVEN ADD THE CHARACTER IF HIS FANS DON'T EVEN PLAY VIDYA?

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Get a job tranny

youtube.com/watch?v=ub46uT3VN1c

Kazooie has less "overworld" stuff than Tooie. Less reasons to go back to old worlds once you've collected everything. This is mostly a tech issue, as collected notes don't save, only the "max" on each world collected. (that's N64 version only though, the xbox versions save everything fine).

I don't even know how people can't remember how to get around. It could use more signposting, whether literal signs or just icons or colors, here and there but it's not hard to figure out where everything is, it's even easier once you open all the warp pads and don't have to worry about navigation as much.
I can't help but think the people who genuinely get lost in levels like Terrydactyland are the same people who get lost in a supermarket.

For all the people talking about bastard jiggies in Tooie, I have only one thing ask you. Did you forget about collecting all the notes in Rusty Bucket Bay?

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Steve discord fags use that term a lot. Are you paddypoop?

10/10 pasta, will use again

This is a Banjo Kazooie thread

Jesus Christ this is sad. Did smug steve posting really scar these people so much

What's it like seeing this smug face every single time you close your eyes? I went and downloaded it just for you

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It's okay when Kazooie does it.

I'm not from smashboard retard. I haven't used that site in 10 years

are jinjos pterodactyls or something

>Youtube compilations
So you admit to being underage AND a Smashboards raider?

Banjo Kazooie game over gives me stiffy.
Prove me wrong.

All I see when I look at that image is victory

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Well I hope you didn't bet too much, Stevie

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whoops

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Getting all 100 notes in Rusty Bucket Bay and Click Clock Wood is more stressful than anything in Tooie.
I'll take a multi-phase puzzle over that any day.

>being this mad

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>Steve discord
Nice boogeyman. Maybe that's YOUR discord you're talking about? Go back, Discord raider.

>467734394
Cringe. Not even worth a (You).
Sad!

I tried to but it wasnt on playstation so who cares.

see
So what's it like knowing that you lost and that you're NEVER leaving roster threads? Hows it feel with smug steve on the brain at all times?

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highs of tooie > highs of k > lows of k > lows of t

And your saying they used MSpaint on their phone instead?
You're fucking retarded m8

Smash just revived interest in Castlevania. Literally the only people upset by this are retards who don't want people to get into the series.

>NOOOOO HOW THE FUCK DID HE KNOW REEEE
Uh oh the underage is getting upset cause he can't downvote

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No, I actually liked doing that. I prefer challenge over monotony. Most of the Jiggies in Tooie weren't too bad, but nothing in Kazooie comes close to the pain getting Scrotty's jiggy made me feel.

nice MS paint

Not only that, they just might of come up with Simon's best look to date, somehow

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Is there like some secret location with the last 11? I can't find them or the final Jiggy

What. Are you kidding?
Minecraft is the game Lego WISHED they came up with. You're a full blown retard for not understanding why they both appeal to autists as strongly as they do and where that overlap lies. Minecraft is virtual Legos.

how people play Richter instead of this gigachad is beyond me

i come back to it all the time
its a fucking great game

>minjos whistle and call for help
>jinjos don't
How the fuck did anyone ever get confused.

It's just Conan the barbarian

>frog
>complaining about underage
like fucking pottery

You can break some of the windows on the ship, I had to look that one up myself

>we're too pussy to use the real design because it isn't Nintendo-Bland
>best design
Shut up faggot

This is a Banjo-Kazooie thread

>the pain getting Scrotty's jiggy made me feel
That takes less than five minutes, unless you're counting opening the train station as part of it.

It's really not that hard as long as you do the boiler room first.

>complaining about frogs
Literally THE BEST way to spot trannys and outsiders.

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Is Spiral Mountain the comfiest tutorial level ever made?
I'm replaying Kazooie right now and it's so chill, feels like a storybook come to life or something.

and let me guess, the real "best design" is when he looked like the front man of a goth metal band straight out of 2006?

Right, so a Smash thread

Giving him a (You) to spite you. Don't fucking post in the first place if you don't want to give him attention.

>That takes less than five minutes
Maybe if you don't take the load times and unskippable animations into account.

*Ahem*

Mad

Speaking of storybooks come to life, you should check out Liar Princess and the Blind Prince.
Yes I know it's shilling, but it's my thread so I can do what I want.

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sorry meant for

All right maybe five minutes is lowballing it but having done it recently it takes like no goddamn time. You'll have already rescued one from Witchyworld and they deliver themselves once you open the Terrydactyland train station, you get Mumbo for the second one, with the warp pads it's a snap, you use Banjo to move the third, take it to the Isle O' Hags station, get Mumbo to heal them, take the train right back and you're done.
Maybe it's different when you already know exactly what to do, but it's not hard to figure out.

I never played Banjo before. I went and played Kazooie after the announcement. Good game. I started Tooie but it seems like there's a lot of shit in there so I'm taking a break for now.

The fuck are you smoking, frogposting is the EASIEST way for outsiders to pretend they belong. It's one of the most accessible and recognizable memes here. At this point, pepe is just a great way to detect out of touch tryhards. Same with wojaks.

Oh man, you thought that was clever didn't you kiddo?

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Looks comfy, I'll put it on my list of stuff to buy in the near future.
God I can't wait to get a Banjo Amiibo, that stupid Totaku one is going for too much now and the only other piece of merch I have is this fucking coin (I'll probably buy the gold variant soon too). Wish I could afford that huge statue.

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>a minute apart
why'd you respond to yourself?

it's because he's no older then 16 and still thinks clownfrog posting is the new coolest/edgiest meme you can find on the 4chans

Nice. You're gonna hate the sewer though. Even if you dig the fps parts, the sewer jiggy is an asshole

>Goth metal
Nah man he just looked like a burntout stoner.

>o-only outsiders use that FUCKING SEXIST BIGOT ALT-RIGHT TRANSPHOBIC frog!! BAN ALL FROGPOSTERS
Not a fucking chance, tranny.

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glad we could get a 10 year olds take on the matter

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>complaining about frogs on fucking Yea Forums
dilate

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>ITT: Faggots who clearly never played Tooie or Kazooie just rearranging Dunkey's "Tooie too big, Kazooie a MASTAPIECE"

Holy fucking shit, and i thought Classic fags and Asmongold were bad

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>P-please accept and respect me
Lol. How desparate can one poster be?

"banjo fans" are nothing but fucking zoomers that think the character was invented by Jontron and Dunkey. Did you actually think any real fans were still around?

I love Grunty Industries. The hard one is the dinosaur level. Much easier to get lost there.

haha yes fellow r/4chaner, have an upboat ;)

Been here since 07. Wojacks has always been cancer, and pepe went malignant around 2011. Quit being so desparate for my approval.

>being new
Dilate and have sex, cringe seething tranny

Seethe harder, libcuck tranny

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>there's no good map for Clinker's Cavern online, despite there being a very good map for the Ordnance Shed
>had to follow a text guide to find everything in time
It's not even that bad but the placement is downright sinister. The Ordnance Shed isn't too bad because it has low ceilings and all the targets are on the ground, but Clinker's Cavern has the damn things up near the ceiling, sometimes you can miss one in a room because it was behind and above you.
Not that bad otherwise though.

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>ResetEra is STILL seething over LE SEXIST NAZI FROG
Utterly. Delicious.

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>Hollow victory
>No new game so it doesn't count
>Smashboards
>Samefag
>Obsessed
>Banjofags were the real shitposters all along
>Kazooie is the only good game
>Think of the children
Place your bets on the next damage control narrative from the cult of steve

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It’s legit impressive how well Gruntilda’s personality still shines through when she stops rhyming at her sisters bequest. It’s a great gag too.

>pissy anti-Banjo-fags trying to derail a thread

Kazooie is better than Tooie, but Tooie is still great

How's banjo pilot anyways

Both Dunkey and JonTron probably had fair assessments. I haven't watched their videos but it's a key difference between the games that's more apparent since their creation.

I've seen one or two threads that were "oh shit this is actually really good", even one about how Clanker's Cavern fucked their shit up. Most people seem to be trying out Dragon Quest at the moment, not that I mind.

Kinda curious too
It's the only game in the series I haven't played

Well, now they are going for "anyone that doesn't love frogposting is a tranny lib from resetera", kind of a turn but also not really surprising

the trailer made me dust off the ol' N64 and give Kazooie a whirl. I was fully expecting it to be just a short nostalgia trip and maybe a novelty for a few hours, but a week and a bit later I've almost got it 100% and I'm thinking about moving on to Tooie after.

Kazooie is seriously overrated
>A stupid huge chunk of the Jiggies are just sitting on the ground or are giving to you for free for completing a puzzle that will already net you a different jiggy
>Every transformation except the Bee is the exact same "now you can walk through gimmick terrain" gimmick. They're all utter shit
>Level themes suck ass (TWO water based rusty metal levels)
>No boss fights
>No fucking world jiggy counter. Forget if you're at 9 or 10? lol oh well fuck you
>The timer puzzles all give you roughly 1 second of spare time. If the shit camera messes with your pixel perfect movement even a little you need to repeat the whole ordeal
>level design is overall mediocre if you have nothing to collect at the moment

just go to emuparadise and download it using the workaround script

>defends Smashboards and ResetEra while complaining about frogs
Wow we really are being raided by trannies

Mad Monster Mansion is generic as hell but it's a very well done halloween level, maybe one of the best ever. also Gruntilda's Lair is a really well done overworld

that's about all I can give praise to for the level design

>gets BTFO
>calls it a narrative
Ehhhh.... i don't get it?

so when you go to sleep at night, do you check under your bed for leftist trannies? maybe in your closet? or maybe you found yourself in there?

The opening bit of Tooie is a drag but it gets better.

A full right minutes of thinking and that was the best you could come with, huh pal?

>defending leftists and trannies
go back

I need to stop browsing this thread and just play Banjo-Kazooie in peace, wish I had a CRT instead of a flatscreen for it but it's still cozy playing on my desk.

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>The opening bit of Tooie is a drag
it's one of the best parts, the story is great

>crying about imaginary trannies

Am I in a Unova thread?

>Didn't answer the question
Sooooo you admit they're not narratives since they beat you?

Agreed, the whole opening is a great setup for wanting revenge on Grunty for killing Bottles attacking the Jinjo family, visiting Bottles' family right after his death and having to hide what happened always made me sad.

these trannies that I am apparently defending, do you see them? right now, in the room you are in? every time you close your eyes? in your thoughts?
are they talking to you? telling you it's okay, you can still make it if you start HRT now

It's great but if you're antsy to get to the meat of the gameplay it feels like a roadblock

I honestly think the only way it would've been improved is if Grunty stopped rhyming by herself, to show had mad she was and to establish the slightly more serious tone even before Bottles death

On replays it just feels like there's an hour til the game starts.

>We have an actually tranny in the thread saying that it's okay to cut your dick off
Hurry up and become a statistic

you are so fucking delusional it's not even funny anymore, get some therapy or at least have sex

dilate

t. couldn't get past the propellers

nice comeback, mr. seething tourist
no wonder you still think frogposting is cool and edgy
how big is your wojack folder anyways

Don't make me pull out the chart, tranny trash

yes yes, anyone that disagrees with you is a tranny
in fact they are everywhere! they are coming out of the damn walls!!! NOOOO SAVE US TRUMP AAAAHHHHHHHHH

but seriously fuck off and go back, in that order

Pretty much because the series outside of Smash talk, its pretty much dead and most people only talk about two of the five games of the series. Since there's so few topics to talk about the series that hasn't been discussed before(let's be honest, you don't see many threads going over and over the same games do you? most of those discussions die since there's nothing to talk about), the fanbase tends just to talk about the two non-controversial popular games ad-infinitum so you end up with stupid topics like this. You want a solution? Why not try discussing the other games and possible good things they could bring into the series or just rest the discussion until more is revealed about BK in smash or a possible new game/remaster that hopefully MS makes for the fans of the series.

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It's a huge bummer that the Tooie intro and music are out of sync on the 360 version because the game is running stable now

Grenade eggs, what can't they do?

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Do you think Banjo likes gummie bears? I want to feed him some of those sugar-free Haribo gummie bears

>people can't have opinions or tastes unless an e-celeb tells them
I wish you could look at yourself in the mirror, you are just the contrarian side of your own narrative.
Obsessing so hard over these e-celebs shows how much of a zoomer you are.

isnt that cannibalism

They're not real bears. It would be cannibalism if he ate Teddy Grahams, however.

Honey or cinnamon?

Why does no collectathon, hell, barely any game, have worlds as detailed as Tooie with so much attention to detail and so many unique mobs and NPCs?

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Chocolate chip master race
holy fuck I haven't had teddy grahams in like 15 years I should pick up a box

>minjo
>minge-o

Holy shit teddy grams sound so good right now

I already went back to Kazooie before he was announced, but I’ve gone back to Tooie since

Time, effort, talent, funding. Gotta have all of those things or it falls apart.

>search pasta on archives
>0 results

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Video games have gotten too expensive to develop.

Probably not. Love me some fucking sour patch kids.

if you are digging out your N64 to play B-K and thinking about getting some Teddy Grahams you might as well go full man child nostalgia trip and pick up a 2L of chocolate milk and some comfy PJs to spend your next Saturday morning in

>Mingella
>Mingy Jongo

Odyssey could've done it

Just shoot an egg. If it gets hit, it's a minjo

Did Nintendo just publish the Rare games or did they actively co-develop them?

No one WANTS MS to make more games for the series. They want MS to relinquish it entirely.

Just approach them with a low ratatat rap, much faster.

>This is a good comeback because /pol/ told me it was
Stop responding to "Have sex".

devolopment was 100% Rare, but keep in mind just about anyone from that era of Rare is long gone.

this is also the solution to about 90% of the challenges you will come across in BK/Tooie

Sounds cozy, I used to love playing N64 after a soccer game on saturday mornings with a Capri-Sun pack too.

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Am I the only one who thought it'd be funny if Mingella and Blobbelda came back, but being crushed under those weights in the Tower of Tragedy reversed their body shape, so that Mingella was wide and Blobbelda was thin?

Odyssey is a bigger, broader Mario 64, the Banjo style doesn't work with Mario. Mostly because all that good cheeky writing doesn't work when your protagonist doesn't have much in the way of dialogue, but having Mario suddenly talk to all the NPCs he meet would be weird.

Yeah I remember the map itself being ok-ish, but nowhere near as navigable as Mayahem or Glitter's. And like you said, the placements of the targets can have you hunting down the sound in every nearby room.

They should be completely 2D, paper mario style

this is an idea you could actually sell to rare

That'd be pretty good. Though I think they'd be turned into skellies too

Kazooie has smaller worlds, less collectibles (just the Jiggies, notes, and Jinjos), no backtracking (except for 1 instance), and a smaller moveset. Each of the worlds took me 30 minutes to an hour to 100% my first time through (many of the Jiggies are less time consuming than tooie’s). Overall the game respects your time more and is much better than tooie and dk64 because of it.

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>Overall the game respects your time more
So fucking what? This isn't a pro, it's just an aspect of the game

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Been replaying it, finished up most of it. Realized I really hate the boat.

>an adventure game having too much adventure is a bad thing
I will never understand this meme

That won't happen for good or for worse, better to hope that they do something with the series and that what they do is good instead of having the fanbase acting like the series is the holy grail of 3d platformers that shouldn't be touched by anyone.

Kazooie is a collectathon. Tooie is some sort of collectathon/metroidvania hybrid. Trying to 100% every world in Tooie first go is like trying to get every missile pack and health tank the instant you step foot in a new area in Metroid. The game doesn't work that way at all.

Post your favorite Grunty's Lair/Isle o' Hags variation.
Mine is this Spongebob-sounding thing youtube.com/watch?v=2-AaP1H8Y9Y

MS is getting somewhat better, and both Rare and ex-Rare (Playtonic) have been shown to be cancerous. I would 100% be more interested in a Banjo game by Microsoft with a new studio (like whats going on with Sony and the new Crash games) than I would be if they announced a new Rare-made Banjo

>Grunty's Lair
easy mode
youtube.com/watch?v=kBNbspbqtHM

Why do people get their hopes up and wish that Microsoft would sell off the IP? How often does that ever happen?

good pick

I had a friend who would get weirdly defensive and bitter whenever I said I liked Tooie more, as if me preferring Tooie meant I hated Kazooie or something. I think he had autism.

because crossover partnership stuff like what fighting games are doing lately wasn't really thought of a as a reality in games until recently

youtube.com/watch?v=kBNbspbqtHM

Isle of Hags default theme is unironically better than any variation the distant drum echos are 100% KINO
youtube.com/watch?v=eKnhh8u_I6M

So I just beat Banjo Tooie but one thing from the ending just seemed really forced.
I get that King Jinjo could've been revived but the machine only ever took life from King Jinjo, there was no way that Bottles could've been brought back since it should've been out of power.

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OH NO NO NO NO NO

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What rumorsdo you remember hearing as a kid about the game that turned out to be bullshit?

>You can get the boat to leave Rusty Bucket Bay
>The walrus opens the Ice key for you if you pester him too much as banjo
>If you cheated to get Stop in swap items you have to race Bogey 50 times in a row or it wont work

There's two kinds of Jiggies in Tooie, more or less. The first kind are the easy ones you're supposed to get on your first run through a stage to open up the next one. The others are for a second run through the level, preferably on a "victory lap" of sorts after you have every move in the game.

I'm a fucking sucker for Halloween.
youtube.com/watch?v=gpBNJzfebho
6 year old me was scared shitless by the giant tombstones.

>no new game so it doesn't count
Wanting a fighting game character instead of a new game is like wanting to suck a thousand dicks.

Too many to list them. I remember being obssessed with the locked doors in the room with the machine that'd swap Tooty's beauty with Grunty's.

I went back and 100% Kazooie which was a blast, but I also just bought a used 360 and this game because I feel like I should at least try it before the DLC comes out.
And wow, it’s really bad!

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Man, look at this. No Steve in sight. Amazing.

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He really looks good next to them. I wonder if their classic mode will be about characters featured in Nintendo 64 games.

>running through empty worlds is fun
Go back and play Grunty Industries

You must be doing something wrong because I've definitely seen this pasta on here before.

Log Plume of Doom in Witchworld was unlockable if you got up there at the entrance.

Because Microsoft had their chance with the series and royally fucked up. Their effort to reinvent the series alienated everyone in the procese and they had zero foresight in how it would be received. The fact is, Microsoft has had zero positive influence on the series. Why would anyone want them involved further?

I had replayed Kazooie up until the announcement and am back to Tooie. Holy shit, Tooie makes me retarded. It feels like Jiggies are not handed out to you like in Kazooie. You can wander around worlds forever and still not even have half the jiggies due to cross-world shenanigans.

>there's literally a video of a stevefag discord meet up with them screeching in autistic rage that Banjo's in smash
>the banjofags are the obsessed ones, clearly.
>we are the victim.

I will GI is the best level in the series.

Stevefags this desperate to be relevant? We're trying to have an actual Banjo thread.

Scenario: You've somehow convinced Microsoft to sell off the Banjo-Kazooie IP off, and you get to choose who it goes to, but the catch is it cannot go to Nintendo or Playtonic. Who do you give it to?

I did it earlier today. What's wrong? Do you keep running through the same places hoping something will be different? Every floor is full of stuff to do. I shouldn't have taken this long, but I missed two really obvious music note nests near the entrance.

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>empty
Tooie has some of the most detailed game worlds, there being too much empty space with not a fast enough character is a valid complaint but not them being "empty"

Kazooie's "worlds" (which are mostly small rooms, save for Treasure Trove Cove and Mad Monster Mansion) are mostly just painted obstacle courses

street fighter x tekken came out in 2012.

Where’s the video?

I’d love to replay them if they ported them to modern consoles. My n64 is back at my parents place (in another country) and I don’t like emulating that much (autistic, I know).

Hoping that remake/remaster rumour floating around is true.

Emulate them with the 60 fps AR code, it's a completely different experience.

youtube.com/watch?v=ub46uT3VN1c

Because there's no other way to get a game now.

Grunty Industries is about as empty as you are, as in it's FULL OF SHIT.

Kazooie technically has bosses, it's just that almost all of them are just "survive a few waves of strong enemies". Boss Boom Box even splits into smaller enemies the more you damage him.

You should be focusing on exploring levels, getting the obvious jiggies, all the notes and new moves, then moving on to the next world. You only need 45 jiggies to open all worlds.

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>due to cross-world shenanigans
Literally only 2-3 jiggies per world require backtracking, and at best like 5 Jiggies in the whole game have cross world aspects. You can literally beat the entire game without ever backtracking.

To all you who consider Tooie's size a flaw, remember back in 2000 the idea of big explorable worlds was still a selling point and the multi-step jiggies made more use of them than just finding them out in the open like B-K had.

Now if you want to talk about bad game design, Yooka-Laylee has a level design like someone dumped a bunch of legos on the floor.

Honestly I thought other characters telling her to shut the fuck up was great. They removed part of Grunty's character but they made a joke out of it, so it worked.

So... what happened to Brentilda and Tooty?
I always wondered why the latter didn't appear at all in Tooie given she was the main objective in Kazooie, I feel like a third game would be fun having her as an additional playable character (or at least a main character).

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>>No fucking world jiggy counter. Forget if you're at 9 or 10? lol oh well fuck you
This is on Tooie, it shows you your full jiggy count when you grab one. Kazooie shows it for that world. You can view this in totals in both games, anyway, so it's not an issue.

me

Yes because I only played the XBLA/Rare Replay versions of the games.

Brentilda is still trapped in the Lair like a squatter, Tooie went missing as the milk carton states.

Danke!

it wasn't even removing her character, Gruntilda was more fleshed out as it showed there was more to her than just the rhymes

>What should we do with all these quill things that are our game's most abundant collectable?
>Eh just put 'em behind shit who cares

>Isle of Hags
>whole Winkybunion family is there
>but not Brentilda
that's the one glaring omission honestly

I just don't get why they decided to use fucking Banjo-Kazooie of all properties to try out as a kart racer/builder, like they obviously knew Rare fans wanted Banjo-Threeie as a straight 3D platformer/adventure title as shown in their original teaser so why did they pull this dumb bait and switch?

youtube.com/watch?v=QLWLdO9GLWM

Fuck I will never not be mad about what they did here, thank god for Sakurai.

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I really like that we're having so many BK threads and that there are so many Tooie supporters.

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They're on the xbone with Rare Replay, the ports are pretty great but the changes of the old N64 stuff kind of irk me for some autistic reason.

If I remember right, the original idea was to have Tooie be a new character to play, but instead they scrapped the idea, and thus had no need for her.

youtube.com/watch?v=EfNTsa17FiQ

Expected LUEshi/10

The objective based design of the missions made it easier to link to BK than other Rare properties. As a side note, apart from the awful blocky designs, the game is quite decent as the vehicle physics are pretty fun even if mission design leaves a lot to be desired.

Story goes that they were actually making Threeie and the cars were just another means of getting around the level. When they couldn’t figure out any way to innovate on 3d platformers they just expanded the car idea into being the main focus of the game.

>Tooie emphasizes split of Banjo and Kazooie into two people
>Threeie has Tootie as the third character

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The car and construction game being threeie was always the intention. It's entirely on rare.

Finding the mostly empty puzzle with no switch so early in the game is a very peculiar feeling.

But Tooie already has Mumbo as the third character.

Drippy, murdering George Icecube and the one Hailfire Peaks jiggy you can't even get until you do something completely unrelated in the stomping plains bring to light the general wonkyness of the interconnectivity for worlds. I think maybe it would have been better to just have a general pool of jiggies with no checklist for each world so you don;t feel so gay for not being able to 100% a world.

I remember thinking I had 100% and then they found a new rainbow coin like 15 fucking years later

Maybe it’s because I rushed through it from start to Spiral Mountain in the past 24 hours since I got it, but I disagree about the vehicle mechanics. The planes I felt have fluid aerial movement, but everything else was pretty wonky. Vehicle customization is pretty good though.

yeah I realized that as soon as I posted, but he's so shit a character that maybe we can forget it

except Gregg Mayles and Robn Beanland

to be fair that does not count for 101% completion

The one good moment he has in the game is when he talks shit to the alien in Hailfire Peaks and the fact that you can swim in Humba's pool while she reees at you.

That movie was fucking terrifying.

>Banjo Threeie
>Banjo Kazoothree
>Banjo Kazooie: Subtitle
Pick one.

Which is fucking stupid when they should have just improved the movement options of the duo. Right off the bad, turn Talon Trot into a Dash type mode with a dedicated button. Give it acceleration so it gets even faster the longer you hold the same direction. And 2nd, introduce some new Speed Booster type move that uses the Golden Feathers for Talon Trot.

Addtionally, give more mobility options to Flying (like an Aerial Roll), Swimming, and etc... as well as new jumps and attacks. Basically, make it so that most of the new moves they learn expand their mobility, and are a lot more utilitarian than "this move is a key for this door" like Talon Torpedo.

I mean, you saw all the shit that Mario did in Odyssey in order to make travelling these large worlds so fun. BK's moveset is a lot more expansive, with many things that could be done to make their MOVEMENT more fun.

Are you stupid? Grunty literally says Banjo-Threeie in the ending of Tooie, there is no other possibility.

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That's literally just your autism acting up. You don't even need any of the backtracking or multiworld jiggies to beat the game.

>The car and construction game being threeie was always the intention.
From what I hear that's true, but then that's still the worst fucking bait and switch I've ever seen from the first trailer.

Also since this thread is dying, I want everyone's hot take on pic related. Debating replaying it.

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Someone make a new thread. This is comfy and I wanna keep talking about Threeie.

>B-K threads hitting bump limits

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I'll make one, gimme a second.

Same. Maybe we should make the next thread about it specifically.

So firedenfag is a Bandana Dee fanboy AND a Steve fanboy? I knew these fucks were the same group.

didn't mean to spoiler the pic but it kinda works