Wanna make a vidya

>Wanna make a vidya
>TFW I don't know where to start

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I form ideas or draw first

then make a visual novel

just like make game bro

>Wanna get a gf
>TFW I don't know where to start

>get rich
>pay an competent programmer to make a game for you
>claim "idea"credit
>????

try making a tiny text adventure in batch and work your way up from there

>Wanna get a loli
>TFW I stop my car near a primary school

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I wanna make this to but I atleast have Ren'py for that.
I just want to make a text based game in the vain of CoC or something like that but I have no programming knowledge.

Either become a writer and hope someone hires you as the ideas guy, be a programmer and code like a motherfucker, or build a cash flow business in order to hire your own dev team

Okay I'll give this a try. Starting from somewhere is better than not starting at all.

Is /agdg/ still a mess over there?

Friendly reminder that, like 2D girls vs. 3D girls, irl children don't act like their anime counterparts.

This. Write and/or draw your ideas first.

>teacher runs out with a bat again

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OP here. I appreciate the advice but I've already taken it, I have all my ideas down already. Can't draw though but, I'm slowly learning. I just want to learn to code but I have no idea how to teach myself how.

I want idol cunny

Give up

If only you had access to some sort of network where you could learn from other people that already know the skill you are after. Perhaps some sort of tutorial or maybe a video sharing website would work.

tfw watching logan and falling in love with the cunny again

just join a group and be the idea guy
EZ

I will but the urge to try again always comes back.

Just kinda wanna make text games desu

Has anyone ever actually learn to code from youtube videos.

>wanna look up Mami's skirt
>the camera is angle-restricted

what engine are you planning to use?
some have visual or block programming that allows people with zero experience to make stuff

Just learn nigga. Pick a language (I'd recommend python, c, or c#) and find a good book on it. Ask for recommendations, and then just go do it. Don't be afraid to fuck up, and don't worry about making your Magnum opus right now. Just make stuff and the skills will come.
Good luck. I'm pursuing the same journey as well.

>Been in the write/draw ideas phase for almost 2 years now
It's not as efficient as it seems. You eventually write up so much fucking shit that there's absolutely no chance in hell of even half of it being brought to life, and then you just keep putting off the hard part of making a game, as everyone does. I'd say it's better to put those ideas straight into an engine instead if you can. Just uselessly drafting for months and months won't get you anywhere.

naw but their cunny is tight

this honestly

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It can also help if you learn a language that your engine of choice uses, like C++ for unreal

>wanna make friends
>TFW I don't know where to start

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>wanna fuck cunny
>dont wanna go to jail

Feels bad man

Is python or C better for development? I've heard that python is easier to learn but is it good for vidya.

stop posting your animes, thats a good start

>just wanna hug and take care of cunny
>don't wanna go to jail

Feels bad man

3D = PD no exceptions.

C++ is the game programming language for engines. Python is shit but you can probably find engines for every language. For just games you're good with c++.

Shitprogrammer here. Any shirtwriters or shitartists wanna team up to make a game? Porn or otherwise. You can bring your own ideas or we can come up with something, I don't care.

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Says you incel.

I'm interested, but I don't do animeshit

>not making your own engine
I mean, if you want starting by already half-assing things and being lazy what's the point.

Depends. While C and it's direct derivatives are traditional for engine development, python is a great learning tool. It has a bunch of libraries and tools for game development available. But it depends on what your interest is.
Ask yourself this: Do you care about computer science and the "art" of engine dev? Or do you just want to make a game? If you're interested in comp sci then learn C, otherwise use python.
C doesn't hide a lot of technical stuff behind it's doors, while python does.
Honestly though, if you can't decide, flip a coin between the two. Mostly anywhere is a good starting point. Once you learn one language it's easy to pick another up really quickly, so don't stress it honestly.

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Get in the discord, then we'll talk.

i have, and i am now teaching others on a pro level, got my own gamin department n shit

>tfw wanna make video game but no real idea just me wanting to combine games i played in one unrealistic game.
Even if i did have skills and motivation in the end i have no clever ideas

>Learned C, C++ and Python
>Don't know what to do with them
It sucks being ultra lazy

Been feeling this for the past week now and I hate it.

Go suck off some game journalists.

if you truly wanted you would have already learned
ideas are useless until they are tested in the process of creation

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that'd be fuck hard for 3D

She looks like she has to pee

What the fuck is this?

I have no talent should I still join

yikes

Flipped on a coin, Python it is then. Thank you for your help user's Imma get started learnan.

fuck it, may as well lol

What do you do then?

>27 members
I dunno, I was thinking more along the lines of "rag-team of Yea Forums degenerates teaming up to make something" like how it happened with Katawa Shoujo. Not that interested in joining other existing communities.

>have idea for cool game I want to make cause it sounds fun
>would probably require 50k budget and talent
Fuck

hey fair enough, but we could still split off into our own group. If anything it would be better to keep this group out of my discord

Check out "Automate the Boring Stuff With Python" then. Great book.

>What do you do then?
hobbyist-level realism

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start with smaller projects and work your way up to it

If you were lazy, how did you learn those languages in the first place?

3d cunnys are cute it's only when they turn into whores at the age 13 is when you need to dispose of them

3DPD no exceptions. Cope harder failed normalfag.

I've been taking python related courses on codecademy for the past few weeks and I've learned a lot so far. I'm going to use the godot engine and make the 2D smut rpg of my dreams once I'm done.

C in a class. C++ and Python because I ran out of games to play

>Tfw no talent in anything
How fucked am I?

You cope faggot cunny is the best

cope cope cope faggot

Have you even tried learning how to code?

what anime is this?

just draw pictures or be a rapper
you'll still make millions

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Yes but my maths is awful so I gave up.

I want to learn to code but I give up every time. Is there a way to stay motivated? (I used codeacademy)

Can't say I have.
I'm already pretty shit at drawing despite having the material for it.

Umimi a best

Boku no Bible Black

fuck off

being shit at drawing is what makes you money, user

Use khanacademy. Math is about repetition. No one is born bad at math, it's mostly about a lack of effort and reps.
make stuff you want to make. Blindly following tutorials is fucking lame and boring. Learn skills and then try to apply it to stuff you want to make. What's the point in learning a tool if you don't have a reason to use it?

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Boku no Pico

haha le funny meme XDDD

Love Live

>make stuff you want to make
Not him but there's nothing I want to make. I can already program but haven't made anything or done and deep projects.

thank you

>be a dumb cunt who can't reverse image search
>get dumb cunt answers
Kill yourself nigga.

I'm not very good at math and I haven't run into any trouble yet.
My motivation comes from my happy pills and the strong desire to make an awesome porn game.
You should give codecademy a try if you have any interest in making a game at all. I did and I'm surprised by how much I'm enjoying it.

Yea Forumstard sperging out on command

better-dpt-roll.github.io/
see a program that you think fucking STINKS and remake it yourself. Try to find little annoyances that you think you could automate and do that. Hell, just be a demo programmer and make cool effects and stuff.

or I could ask another human being who shares the same interests you sperg.

Sething and cohp

Keep fucking your hand/onahole while I fuck cunny, retard.

>Trace.Moe
From one user to another It's helped me find a lot of sources. Try using the image in the OP as an example.

Never heard of Codecademy before but I will give it a shot at some point.

My advice to programmers is to pick a language you like, find a 2D gaming library, and try to recreate classic arcade games.

Enjoy your old and busted 3DPD while I get perfection incarnate. An onahole probably lasts longer too. Pathetic.

My interest is to not share the same space with a mouthbreather who can't press a single button and would rather waste time and space by asking to be spoonfed.

well your fucking gay

>realism
Why would you do this to yourself? Take the stylized pill and come to the ngmi side.

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based

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Yeah enjoy fucking rubber while I fuck something that lasts longer than a year.

There's a lot to say about this but I'll go with learn gesture. The pose being so stiff and unnatural is adding a lot more awkwardness than there needs to be.

>old/busted 3dpd

since when are 7-12 year olds old and busted?

>old
Sasuga incels

>talent
Biggest spook ever invented. There is only skill attained through practice. What you may have is natural disposition towards something but you can get as good as your diligence will take you.

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Note how it says women.

Ngmi?

Not gonna make it.

Based

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>dude just get smart!

This may sound ironic but it's not, I love when I get criticism without directly asking for it, thanks user. how to get good at gesture and dynamism?

Not always, some people legitimately dont even know how to start and let that embarrassment hold them down from asking, egos are a bane.

Draw stick figures and learn anatomy

Quickposes I think? I'm not going to pretend to be good at art but being able to quickly look at a pose and replicate the key points in a small amount of time will help. Using less straight lines will also help.

Yeah dummy. If you want to get better at something then start practicing. Talent will only get you so far.

Are you retarded? Yes "dude just get smart!" do you think those faggot kids at school got A's by not studying? Talentfags are so retarded they hold themselves back. How do you get good at an intrument if you don't practice said instrument dip shit.

Go to quickposes and practice getting the "flow" of the poses, dont focus on detail and just try to capture the essence of the pose for your gesture improvement

Stop giving people false hopes.
If your hardware is weak no amount of effort will help you.

/ic/ meme

>want to learn to draw
>need to practice to get good
>nothing to practice
Someone please help. What the fuck do I do for the hours of practice I need to do every day?

Sounds like you're just a sucker who ended up falling for a self-fulfilling prophecy. There are limits, but you damn well best know that a lot of that is self-imposed by mindset, which is malleable.

Your brain is a muscle. You can train it just like every other muscle in your body.

Try the Yea Forums draw thread. They'll shit on you but it's great practice.

draw nothing but hands and bicycles for a month

Start with the basics and apply them to stuff you like as you go.

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It's a good mentality to have for self betterment, but please don't think it's realistic. The amount of effort needed to get A's varies greatly by person. The amount of time and energy they can afford to spend on getting A's varies by person and living situation. The world is not fair.

Draw? Find pics you enjoy, try to copy (not trace) them.
Find online art courses. Read a book. Or just plain put a slideshow of naked people and try to draw each one for 10 minutes. Personally I recommend going through Proko's fundamentals series.

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Draw your waifu in this pose, forget wether it's come out good, as long as you're practicing and asking for feedback and addressing said feedback you're good.

Why is shizune holding a grenade?

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>want to make vidya
>make assets
>make plotline
>make some codes
>start thinking of lewds
>end up ditching game and write lewds instead
I need to get back and continue it but at the same time i can't be bothered. I want to make a little girl game but at the same time the setting doesn't fit

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>waah I'm dumb
yeah you are. doesn't mean you're stuck being that way. apply yourself

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>Draw your waifu
I don't have one unfortunately.

Don't, developing games is the same as building a power plant, you'll get nowhere without years of experience with programming

Indulge yourself and make corrections as you go, who cares if it doesnt fit the setting if no onesl but you sees? You'll figure out what works/what you want.

Any tips on language? Starting point? I worked on Python and Java for a bit but I didn't see how either one would transition into what I wanted to make.

I'm fairly intelligent and my life is going great, but I don't think that is of my own doing. I got lucky.

>fairly intelligent
you're clearly not if you don't think everyone has the capability to learn.

>See all those retards on patreon making games.
I think I'll manage user.

So why do you think not everyone makes it to the upper class? Did they just not watch enough motivational shounen anime about being able to do anything if you put your mind to it?

You won't get a single dollar if you don't show them something at least decent you brainlet

>no waifu
Get yourself one and draw her.

lack of effort. lack of motivation. being dumb and uneducated is a choice in the days of the internet. I said capability, not desire.

ROTE memorisation isn't all you need to be smart. How you use that information is also important and may be more about how your physical brain works than how you can mould it. I guarantee the people complaining about talent are nowhere near the point where this is important.

It's not that simple user, you can't just choose whatever. You only get one.

why does she hold a grenade if she has glasses?

yes because "real" intelligence is some 4th dimension voodoo magic instead of pattern recognition and proper application of mechanics.

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Stop watching anime, grab a fucking piece of paper and start writing down your ideas, you worthless, unproductive waste of space.

What about all the people at work who clearly put in more time and effort than I do, and are still worse programmers who make less money? They didn't watch 700+ anime like I did, they didn't spent their whole time at university playing obscure russian art games. Yet they are quantitatively worse at their job than me. Why?

Cant i just try to draw and explain everything and start a Kickstarter to get people or a company to program?

The world is physical user. In the same way you can't train your height to be taller you may not be able to change certain traits of your brain. Why are you excluding hard coded genetics from influencing the brain? Yes it has pl;plasticity but it isn't 100%.

>tfw already work as software dev
>could easily learn tools to make a game
>absolutely no ideas for a game

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>be idea guy
>realize very quickly not all ideas are good ideas
>still have plenty of quantity to work with though given what bullshit is being made for characters these days (battleborn, borderlands, whatever that new one is with that extra fat bitch)
>decide to just keep a notebook of ideas while i do QA
>legally speaking even though i didnt disclose any of these ideas to my employer, theyre technically their ideas, not mine
>go back to no-lifing QA testing shit
feels bad man. im about to start my second notebook too. one day that shit will see the light of day, but it damn sure isnt gonna be soon. the bar aint low enough yet and its already pretty goddamn low

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Nigg i have an idea for almost a new genre. It can boom.

Learn Python and use Godot.

No, it's definitely efficient. You just seem to have a problem with being unable to keep your ambitions in check, which is a common problem among amateurs.

>It's not that simple user, you can't just choose whatever. You only get one.
Hm, you're right, I only even realized I had a waifu after I kept obsessing over her art and ways to replicate the style.
Anyways just try drawing what you want user, go the drawthread for ideas and daily practice, once in a blue moon amidst the spam you'll see a good request. Or try drawing ghost trick characters, they're fairly simple and cool to draw, always fun to do those.

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>work as a unity dev for non-games
>plenty ideas for games
>no visual design skills whatsoever
I can't even convince anyone to give me the money to hire a visual designer with the terrible scribbles and programmer art I make.

start with the logo

Programming your own game is fun until you hit hurdles with even the most mundane things, like making a functional save/load system. That shit was brutal at first when I was learning. I had to scratch my entire project and start from zero when I realized that the way I was making my code wasn't efficient for compiling all the data I needed for a save file.

I can draw, have ideas, can do music but can't code for absolute shit. Life is like this sometimes.

that isn't how you should do it, starting from the start is bad practice.

Steal assets from all over the place and dick around in UE4 until you make a Frankenstein that you actually want to complete. Then start making your own assets.

>Want to make a game for fun
>Too lazy to make new engine, decide to try Unity
>Need to know C#
What the fug. I'm not learning C#, that's an absolutely useless language for my real line of work.

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Not being able to code is the best outcome nowadays. Before you needed to do it sometimes but now they have so many templates you can copy and paste your entire game together. If the art/music/story is good people will excuse that shit. Just look at all the indie side scrolling platformers "with a twist" that get by on story or art alone.

because you are obviously on some higher plane of existence and see yourself as the ubermencsh, no way it could've been from a more academic upbringing, better schooling or just simply thinking of things at a different angle. Could also be a lack of passion from your colleagues or perspective from you. Somewhere higher up there's some guy who thinks you're the brainlet who struggles at everything.
It's more of a psychological issue than anything. That's like saying developing depression in your teens means it stays with you your entire life. Yes, I agree that people may think differently but it's no excuse for a lack of intelligence.
Also keep in mind the affect that some drugs have on the brain. If repeated use of those things can so dangerously alter the brain, then "proper" stimuli can alter the brain as well. The naturally generated endorphin rush from solving problems may provide the same high as some hardcore drugs to some.

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There's no wrong way to start as a beginner. You just do it, and see where you go from there.

Maybe because they didn't practice as much as they say they did? Maybe because you have other abilities they don't, like social skills? Maybe because they are shit at finding jobs? Maybe because they decided to have a job in the topic that is harder for them? Maybe because they are lazier than you and have less drive to better themselves? Who knows?
Talent is athing, as the other user said, but it's like top fighter players, when you have to master the inputs perfectly for other factors to start mattering first.

boredom is the soul of creativity

as a beginner especially you shouldn't start over. Having huge roadblocks that you have to overcome is good way to practice.

>have lots of ideas for games
>have decent art skills
>have autistic worldbuilding project with 2000 years of history and shit tons of events and characters
>no coding skills whatsoever
>too intimidated by the amount of work I'd have to do to finish at least the most simple game

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>Yes, I agree that people may think differently but it's no excuse for a lack of intelligence.
lmao you moron

Post them ideas that'll never see fruition because of damaged mental health
>tfw really wanted to make either a paranormal detective or super hero rpg

Stop sucking dick.

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You clearly misunderstood the post, then. I said that I had to restart and create my code from scratch with a Save/Load system in mind, i.e streamline all the data so that it's easier to keep track of and compile into a file. It was far better to start over and make the thing more efficient than try to retool it at that point. It was the right call as it vastly improved my project.

If you have the ability to model a fictional society and world to that depth then programming should be easy peasy.
Here's a crash course on EVERYTHING most programming languages use
>ifs and elses
conditional stuff.
>for, while, do-while loops
do shit repeatedly until a certain condition is meant.
>functions
the part where you actually program stuff.
>variables
points in memory where data is stored. Think of it like the variables in math but can change depending on certain operations (functions). Can hold stuff like text data (strings), numbers (integers, floats/doubles (non-whole numbers)), single characters, even files. It's just a place to reference things memory.

There. That's most of what you need to understand programming in literally any language. The rest is mostly semantics within whatever language you start out with.

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Not that I have any experience, but I would say the best ideas to draw are level design ones. Even if you haven't gotten the actual gameplay programmed, if you've decided on the engine you can make visual assets and levels for your game. Then, much later, you'll have a lot on the cutting room floor to work with.

>paying him
This is why you fail

Use Twine and make a text based porn game
please

Nice engine you got there, fag.

There's literally no reason to make your own engine today unless you're making a game that is extremely specialized or you're looking to work with engines in the industry.

>because you are obviously on some higher plane of existence and see yourself as the ubermencsh
Just the opposite, and the reason is exactly as you stated. More academic upbringing, better schooling and a brain that happens to be good at thinking at a "different angle". Nothing to do with the effort I put in or my motivation.

>Somewhere higher up there's some guy who thinks you're the brainlet who struggles at everything.
I know a lot of people who are far smarter than I am. Don't worry about that.

You might notice that most of those maybes you post don't have anything to do with effort and motivation, and I agree they can all play a role. The only thing I'm arguing is that how your life turns out is to a very large degree up to chance. The amount of motivation and effort you can muster is also included.

>tfw creative but talentless

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Have you looked into godot? It looks pretty great from my inexperienced perspective.

>better schooling
There it is. You don't just ingest information like a sponge, you have to cooperate with it. You can't just sit in at the best school in the world and get smarter by simply showing up and not paying attention. Clearly there was some effort exerted to get to that point. Sure, you may use less effort, but it isn't like you just showed up and knew everything. You had to learn it. Everyone can get to the same point as you if they want to. You clearly did. No, not everyone is born equal, but everyone is equal in opportunity if they want to grasp it.

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>it's another user with terminal ABR who wants to make a video game episode

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>work as unity dev for games
>not allowed to develop games in my free time
>I wasted 5 years of education for this
It's not worth it.

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>not allowed to develop games in my free time

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Wow I guess because I bothered to show up at my rich kids school simply because it's easier than having to deal with the punishment for not showing up, I am now equal to the kids that had to work to support their family and thus didn't have the time to do homework. Come on man, what are you even arguing? Following the path of least resistance that was laid out by my environment can hardly be called effort.
The issue here is that motivation and effort aren't some sort of magical lever in your brain that you can turn off and on again. You can't just choose to be motivated, it's something that, like every character trait, you develop from a combination of nature and nurture. Of course, I agree that telling someone to be motivated might be part of the nurture that causes them to be motivated, it's just that blaming someone for not being motivated enough if they had a shit childhood is really fucking toxic and unrealistic.

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Some places have shitty contracts that say anything you make during employment belongs to them because they're giving you access to secret stuff that you may steal and make into a game first. Ideas are hard to protect so they just blanket everything you make in your free time.

Something something it would belong to the company instead of me.

Most of my maybes have to do with motivation, but it's true luck plays an important part in outlr life's, just not in the way you think. It's not nearly as much about genetics as you think, and a lot more to do with our environment. And intelligent kid that was born in a pot country that is currently at war have no real chance of becoming an important figure in game development, but a dumb kid with Rich parents that pay for special schooling, personal professors and tutors and give all the tools to him to become a game developer definitely have a better chance.

It still haves to do with motivation, but you can't do everything in life. I'm just comparing similar cases.

I wish I could write or draw that much. I have a decent set of logical skills, programming, lots of practical engine knowledge, good amount of networking but nothing about writing and very little drawing. I lose motivation instantly upon not being able to visualize exactly what I want on paper or on my screen.

I never said anything about the amount of nature vs nurture as I don't think I can know anything about it. I agree with you that it's largely environment, but I don't think you can choose your environment so I'd still call it luck/chance.

Doesn't mean they can't learn. Sure, it was easier for you, but everyone is capable of learning stuff, regardless of the amount of effort at play. Just because a guy with no legs can't play basketball as easy as everyone else doesn't mean he doesn't have the ability to.
This shitty defeatist attitude is why so many faggots ITT whine about being an "ideas guy" with no skills. Blowing off your own skills because it was easy for you is like disregarding a baby's potential for intelligence simply because he learned to walk at 1.5 years instead of your 1 year.
Is it guaranteed to be easy? No! Is it a guarantee that one can learn what they want to learn given enough effort? Yes!
You are right about motivation, however. People can only learn if they want to learn. Why do you think so many people just casually claim "oh I'm so bad at math" and "my brain just doesn't do math LOL" when in reality they were the kids griping about never needing to know that stuff in school.

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>have an idea
>can code
>can make art assets
>have access to local art bros
>only have time on weekend which is further discounted by shitposting
AAAAAAaaaaaa I have been working on this game for 2 years if not more. Fuck wageslaving. Fuck commuting. Fuck rent. Fuck bills.

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Just put up a patreon. That's what all the cool kids do.

You're stuck in a circle. How do they get the motivation to learn?

World of goo was made in a week user.

By wanting to better yourself.

Isn't that the same thing? How do they get that?

I know you want to make a game, but what game do you want to make?

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This, my coworker is making a shitty porn game and gets 1100$/month on patreon.
Now he only works part time and spends the rest of his week on the game.
Just pick some degenerate fetishes no one else has done and the people will come.

Looking at their current situation, going "wow this sucks" and wanting to improve it. Some people are fine with the life they have so they don't need to learn anything.
It can come from a myriad of other things, the competitive nature of males may lead to people getting smarter because they want to be better than anyone else. You clearly had motivation to learn because you had the threat from your school, some people may want to learn because their job is being replaced so they need to pivot to something else.

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I wanna make a visual novel and i'm using ren'py so the scripting and stuff is easy to understand and I'm a pretty avid illustrator so I'm doing all the art myself and I dabble in writing so I've got that down pat too


I guess the biggest obstacle for me is... Figuring out what to do about music... I'm absolutely completely incompetent when it comes to music
I was thinking ahout bothering some artists on soundcloud because there's lots of lovely chiptune artists that hardly get any recognition but
i don't have the money to start oaying them either
and I don't wanna tell them to give me music for free either
god damn it

Use royalty free stuff. It doesn't have to be the Kevin Macleod stuff or anything.

You could try offering them a cut of the profits in exchange for the use of their already made songs.

loli cunny

>try making a game
>keep bumping into quirks of the compiler and language

would you play a worms clone with a xcom-style campaign?

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>i really liked surviving mars so i'm gonna make an even worse copy of it.
Keep up the good work user.

Plenty have, many of my friends began coding through youtube tutorials

So you wanna learn how to code.

Good let's start.

Install Unreal Engine.

Write a game design document.

Why is your game fun, what mechanics.

STORY ISN'T A MECHANIC.

but what if it's an interactive story

If you're planning on being a one man dev team don't fucking do it you'll give yourself an aneurysm

start with what genre of game you want to make.

>but what if it's an interactive story
You've only describe a single mechanic there.

Interactive.

It's called visual novel, not a game

Learn to code first, retard

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Even this isn't necessary, there are games out there that were made without writing a single line of code because of how simple some engines are getting.

It's obviously better to write your own engine, since you have complete control of everything, but if the goal is simply to just "make a video game" then using a pre-existing engine is fine.

Don’t. Coding is a boring drag. I’m pretty sure you have to be some sort of autist to even get good at it. Don’t think that your love for games means you should make them. Learn to code first. And find out if you even enjoy that shit.