Haha let's be subversive and make Superman the bad guy!

It's funny that they always make Superman the bad guy. It's like they all know if any other member of the Justice League went evil dictator Supes would slap their shit before they could get off the ground.

Evil Superman had a mental break down and attempted to destroy Metropolis out of spite.

>le fascism is always evil
This is true, tho

>Communist Superman

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plebs will never get the point of superman

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This is how Injustice should have been.

cringe and patronizing?
If the cop was able to keep things safe there would be no need of those heroes, especially not someone like Nightwing who is "just a normal human".

Evil batman would be way more fun. A human using absolute strategy, wits and ingenuity to constantly defeat these super powered gods while commiting atrocities would be amazing. But of course thats too hard to write, evil super strong man easy.

>The implication is that the officer is also worthy of respect, and just as important as them.
>In reality Superman's telling him not to slack off, figuring they'll do all the work.

Just have him join up with darkseid.

>Its a "Killing the Joker ruins the world despite being something that any sensible person would agree is a good idea" episode

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>Kill the Joker
>It destroys the world
>He just comes back to life.

Batman is the center of the Batman universe that sometimes crosses over to the DC universe

Superman is the ultimate pleb filter.

I don't get it. We have 2 stories where the DC world has gone to shit and both have the same tipping point of Joker dying.

Isn't that the Batman Who Laughs?

>Kills people for minor legal offenses
>Kills people for disagreeing with him
>Makes laws to have reasons to kill people
>Wants to kill the only organism that could save all the cities in Injustice 2 because he was a meany, endangering millions of lives
>Makes mind control helmets in his ending so that no one has the ability to think freely besides himself
>”lmao he was justified in all his actions and the devs are playing favorites”

Slowly burning a hole thorugh a thirteen year old's head for questioning you blowing up cities.

>Superman makes a worldwide utopia
>He's only evil because "m-muh don't tread on me" Americans say so
>After defeating his IDEALS using paper, Lex basically does the exact same thing and brings about a golden age of humanity that lasts for thousands of millennia, but he's the good guy because he's not an alien
Why do people like this story again?

>smart human going against superheroes
that's like the most generic stuff ever
an evil Batman would just be Ra's Al Ghul

I hate the Batman because he is a self-indulgent asshole that is addicted to violence and would rather chase thrills than actually try and help solve problems.

Go to bed. Alfred.

Because it's a perfect example of how even a selfless man like Superman can be tempted to use force to solve all his problems, like a tyrant. His utopia can only exist while he's micro-managing it, where as an evil prick like Lex Luthor steered humanity towards a utopia that doesn't require him to be omniscient in order to maintain it.

Superman being evil is a pretty interesting concept. The universe would be utterly fucked.

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>A human using absolute strategy, wits and ingenuity to constantly defeat these super powered gods while commiting atrocities would be amazing.

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Unless they found a convenient way to disable him every time it happened.

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>>Utopia
Did you even read the comics retard? Or better yet, play the games?
It’s also funny how you praise a 1984 dystopia unironically, despite clearly bring a minor on an 18+ site that is known for is anarchist/libertarian views.

Also see you fucking idiot.

if he is so smart why doesn't he have hair?
even Musk fixed that and he is real life Luthor

No it's not. Luthor adopts pretty much all of Superman's philosophies and his utopia is run, essentially, but an unbroken chain of his descendants. He's a tyrant too, he's just a human tyrant. The message of the story appears to be "you can only make a world better if you were born there". The message is even further muddled when it turns out Superman is the last in Luthor's long bloodline.

Learn to reading comprehension, retard. I'm talking about Superman: Red Son, not Injustice. Try not to call people fucking idiots when you can't even check what's being talked about. Embarrassing. You can delete your posts at the bottom of the page, by the way (as long as you're not on mobile, newfag)

How do you feel about an Edgelord Superman clone from the future?

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Lex luthor would not count as that since he tends to use other super powered beings to help him out so even if indirectly he is still using said powers to help him out. Batman would just use plot armor tier shit in turn and probably avoid dealing with the aid of super powered beings in that scenario the one you quoted from would want.

He looked too much like Jesse Eisenberg when he had hair.

Capeshit fans are filthy normie plebs. The lowest common denominator. Imagine being proud that part of your identity revolves around consuming this crap.

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but no one reads the comics

Shitty. I wanted to see Mon El and force Superman to cope with the fact he'll make mistakes.

>I hate the Batman because he is a self-indulgent asshole that is addicted to violence and would rather chase thrills than actually try and help solve problems.

That's all star super man whose addicted to violence, and acts like a massive tard. There are other incarnations where he's not as fucked in the head because he has the bat family to ground him to his innate humanity or the writer realizes that Batman isn't supposed to be written as an edgelord.

No good natured utopia quite like constant surveillance and lobotomies for dissidents, you super retard.

*All star batman

Superman's logic wasn't too horrible. I imagine at some point the heroes would get sick of playing wack a mole with villains forever. Villains like the Joker can't be cured and keeping him alive made a disaster like this inevitable. So while this Superman is grossly out of character I understand him.

Wonder Woman on the other hand is gunning really hard for that worst organism award

>actually the world would be a better place if braniac could just roam around
Moron

>make Superman the bad guy
>subversive
I'm more surprised when he's portrayed as 100% good at this point.

killing joker wasn't the problem. It was the escalating bullshit he did to anybody with a slight issue with him

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Meanwhile Joker is the good guy because we live in a society.

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God I hate these models.

but that happens all the time

Netherealm studios are stuck in 2003 when it comes to taste

But Ultraman is an ally of justice, user.

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Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns can be blamed for that. When it came out there hadn't been any good Batman comics in over a decade, but from then on everyone else writing Batman stories thought "all we need to do is make Batman edgy and our story will be just as good".

How about you storytime it and we'll decide if we like it or not

Superman is a great villain though, he's too op and boring as a hero but imagine having to fight that. NOW that's more interesting.

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Or have him die

It's kinda ironic how Knightfall happened not too long after Dark Knighr Returns, and yet literally nobody got the message.

>caring about long running comics
>not reading just the elseworlds and other stuff where the story ends and there is no bullshit about super villains getting away all the time
seriously don't blame comics, they are retarded bu they don't hide it

I hate this image more than everyone in this thread combined

This is Injustice Superman's primary fuck up. He probably did start out wanting to just make the world better even if he had to do it by force. But he just kept moving the goalpost on what that meant. First you weren't allowed to commit crimes, then you weren't allowed to have wars, then talking out of turn became illegal. By the time of Injustice Superman moved the goalpost so far that he was willing to wipe out entire series just for complaining.

test

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>boring as a hero
I don't get this. Superman is chill as hell

I meant Earth-3 Superman AKA Ultraman

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*wipe out cities

Welcome to Yea Forums, dude. Where nobody fucking understands the appeal of their favorite characters, yet somehow thinks they can speak as authorities on them.

It's almost like that's kind of the whole point, you know, slippery slopes and all that stuff.

I just don't like how everyone sucks his cock 24/7

Is there an even stronger version of him called Megaman?

so you have never picked up a comic book have you

Is... Is he sniffing Kryptonite like it's coke?

The world needs more evil alternate universes.

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Welcome to edgy comicbooks.
It's multiverse, so Kryptonite probably makes him stronger in this reality.

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Wait are those bullies shaking down people to give them lunch money?

That's exactly it actually, kryptonite gives him his powers while sunlight weakens him

I hope the Memelad whom keks is part of the dlc plan

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Yes, and the joke is that the victim is gonna knife them.
Because edgy.

Wonder Woman is gross in this series

>Superman: I'm evil because this heroism doesn't work so I'll bring peace through force

>Wonder Woman: I'm evil because I want to keep fucking Superman

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So this is just gonna be a "post the edgiest things you've seen done with Superman" thread? Alright, be my guest Yea Forums. It's still inferior to a Superdickery thread.

>woah.. what if.. superman was like... treated like a god and shit. What if he was like JESUS?! Woah, that's deep.

When will the brainlets who write these comics come up with something original?

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Batman who lmaos is so fucking stupid, I know the Joker has been made edgy as hell lately but I fail to see how Batman + Joker = Gimp Joker with claws and fangs for some reason, must've been one hell of a joker toxin.
I'm also disappointed his plan just involves making everyone a "____ who laughs" too instead of fusing them with their respective villains, but no one cares about comics here anyways.

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Forgot my image

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I almost forgot about forever evil. So did superwoman's child has any significant story after that?

Nothing could ever top super dickery.

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i don't know if this serious or not

He's a straight, white male. What did you actually expect? Someone who actually cares about the planet and its inhabitants?
>remembers who won the last election
>gags and vomits

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Now this thread's happening

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>It's a people pretend Supes isn't cool episode

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this was a fantastic comic, and i say that as someone who absolutely despises communism and everything it stands for

Yeah, no only that. She intentionally isolate superman from his friend because...

well shit, she is just a dick, apparently.

Careful, you'll get people saying that Captain Marvel isn't cool, either.

Showed up in Metal

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>Two wrongs make a right
Moron. How are the two even relevant you dumb, commie fuck? He was running constant surveillance and turning people into robots completely separately.

>remove underwear
>add retarded useless red thing on the balls
why is DC so scared to be silly nowadays.
They try so hard and end up being pathetically comical.

Superheroes used to had a greek/roman vibe btw, not this fake sci-fi armor shit they keep forcing. It was much better at making the capeshitters look like gods, now they look like aborted experiments, and im sure thats the idea too.

DC are just a bunch of superstitious cowardly lots.

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Call the cops. I don't give a crud. I'm posting it anyway.

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Were these original clickbaits?

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he's also a mentally unstable manchild that dresses up like a bat and is constantly on the verge of wanting to kill his villains or not

truly I want a man like to decide who should be kllled

Superman fans are the worst.
Arrogant and think they are the only one to get Superman and NO WAY you can dislike him if you actually got him.

>She intentionally isolate superman from his friend because...
She is a woman.

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t. regime

fuck

Man they really fucked up the injustice story. It's fucking garbage and never ending now, they're going to be fighting forever.

Should have ended with batman going back in time and shooting the joker. He compromises his code to save his friend and the world. Would be kino.

The EiC Julius Schwartz came up with an idea to help the writers. The artist would make a cover and then the writer would come up with a story to go with it. So the artists made the weirdest shit possible.

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I unironically miss Silver Age Batman. He was at his most effective when he did shit like the Batoosie.

I don't understand why they ALWAYS do this. Out of Superman and Batman, it's way more likely that Batman would end up betraying his 'code' and going 'evil' than Superman. Batman is a rogue. Superman is heroic good. Batman is dark and brooding, Superman is light and cheerful.

Next time make Batman and his supporters the villain. If there's an argument about if that would work, the closest any evil version of a character got to succeeding(and almost destroying EVERYTHING) was this fucker right here.

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Who the fuck writes this shit? Jesus.

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Oh yeah, I liked this one. And the one with the kid that wanted to kill himself.

>vidya ass threads

Everything about this was movie great.

"Hail Christ; Jesus Christ" being contrasted by "Praise Satan" is one of my favorite moments in a short story I wrote. That said, "in the name of Satan, smite the luciferists" is one of the dumbest fucking things I've read. It'd be no better than if the line read "praise jesus, fuck christ"

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not even a superman fan but you sound like you let capefans live in your head rent free
hope you get help

Yeah, it's great. Supes is a bro.

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more

>"praise jesus, fuck christ"
You are one weird Cathar, dude.

Injustice in general tries way too hard to be dark and edgy, it's made by the same people who make Mortal Kombat so it's no surprise really.

Working on it.

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>Next time make Batman and his supporters the villain.
I have always wanted to see an Owl-Family 2bh.

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okay seriously just WHAT THE FUCK is the context of this?

Are you stupid? They're clearly making reference to disputes within Christendom, not making a 1960s computer logic loop saying "I don't tell lies, this sentence is a lie."

You're just gonna have to pay 12 cents and buy it. This isn't a library kid.

There is no context. There is only Zuul.

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readcomiconline.to/Comic/Superman-s-Girl-Friend-Lois-Lane/Issue-73?id=46370#1

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And that's why no one likes Injustice Superman.

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>i say that as someone who absolutely despises communism and everything it stands for
of course you dumb-dumb, this comic was a criticism to communism

It's "Superman please don't" all over again

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t. never read a superman for all seasons/all star superman

>those dead eyes, hand hovering his gun as if he's ready to change face at any moment in order to futilely defend his life

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because it's unironically more interesting for Superman to be a bad guy, Batman turning evil is more predictable and more boring
the problem is most writers who write an evil Superman don't actually use what's unique to Superman to make the story interesting. Superman is all about how this dude should technically be an absolute threat and menace to our world because of what he's capable of but he still chooses to be the better person and do the right thing. And it's because of the morals he learned from being raised by the Kents and the experiences he had as Clark Kent.
And almost no evil Superman stories involve this. You never feel the Kents influence on Superman at all or see any sort of inner conflict in Superman concerning how they raised him or his past experiences that led him to this point. It's always "I'm evil and will just use my Superman powers to do evil because there's nothing else"
It's why I think the Injustice story is so shit. We almost never see Superman have any second thoughts or have any inner turmoil to his character because apparently everything that's happened in his past pre-Injustice never happened
On an unrelated topic it's also why edgy Batman was shit in BvS. You're just expected to just accept this idea of the character without actually seeing what affected them to be like this. It's very reliant on the reader already getting the superficial idea of the character so you can just do whatever you want without considering the quality of the writing and it all falls apart

tl;dr evil Superman is more interesting but almost no one knows how to properly write it

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It doesn't matter.

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It would be. But unfortunately that means bats would have to defeated and we all know he has the greatest superpower of all, the batwank

BvS edgy Batman still wasn't presented as a villain though.

>user who has never read a Superman comic thinks that the only interesting stories about him are those that "deconstruct" him

Flashpoint Aquaman and Wonder Woman were far more intimidating than any Evil Superman

Based Superman. Nobody else gets to fly on his watch

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holy shit Superman is wide

We literally had an entire event of Evil Batmen

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I can vaguely remember a Superman TAS that went kinda like that, with Lois sent into the future

This looks so fucking retarded.

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Exactly, Superman is literally about helping other people and seeing the good in them.

but he was, especially in the extended edition

Now THAT is a plan.

Wide Superman huh?

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>Hulk batman
>Judge doom batman
>Aquaman batman
>Green lantern batman
>Flash batman
>Whatever the fuck the far left batman is suppose to be
and people wonder why no one respects capeshit

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Because this is Yea Forums, I expected* the next scene to involve a rape.

*hoped

Everytime

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Batman being the bad guy would be more interesting.
And in the end, he'd be right all along.

TAS was too good

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Incels btfo

Natural and normal - quotes have been paraphrased for readability

Low estimates indicate a significant portion of men are sexually aroused by female children
>Consistent with previous data... 26.25 % exhibited penile arousal to pedophilic stimuli that equaled or exceeded arousal to adult stimuli... In recent studies, 12 to 32% of community college samples of men reported sexual attraction to children... [a]
>In a sample of nearly 200 university males, 21% reported some sexual attraction to small children... In another sample with 100 male and 180 female undergraduate students, 22% of males and 3% of females reported sexual attraction to a child [b]
>In a sample of 80 “normal” volunteers, over 25% self-reported some pedophilic interest or in the plethysmographic phase exhibited penile arousal to a child that equaled or exceeded arousal to an adult [c]
>all 48 soldiers showed penile response to adult females, as did 40 of 48 to adolescent females, and notably, 28 of 48 showed penile response to the female children age 4–10 [d]

High estimates indicate the vast majority of men are sexually aroused by female children
>In another study, “normal” men’s erections to pictures of pubescent and younger girls averaged 70 and 50%, respectively, of their responses to adult females [e]
>89% of community males exhibited some sexual arousal while viewing slides of female children [f]
>Penile plethysmography (PPG) has shown that about 9 out of 10 normal men are sexually aroused by prepubertal children; (88.7%) [a]

a. sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0005789405800395
b. link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1020699013309
c. psycnet.apa.org/record/1996-14627-001
d. researchgate.net/publication/17746172_The_structure_of_erotic_preference_in_the_nondeviant_male
e. psycnet.apa.org/record/1975-21378-001
f. mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)61074-4/abstract

>you see, beatrix... peter parker pretends to be spiderman but superman... he pretends to be clark kent

I love times when Clark fucks around with stuff like that. Pretty sure she never finds out he's Superman in that universe too, which makes this that much better.

Didn't the extended edition say how the edgiest parts of this Batman were all false flags engineered to undermine him?

That gave me a good chuckle.

>BvS edgy Batman still wasn't presented as a villain though.
in a way he was
he's supposed to be the obstacle to Superman that results in their fight and is very clearly seen as being in the wrong for how views Superman and how he handles criminals when he comes back. Heck the actual climax of the movie hinges on him having a change of heart and realizing how off the deep end he was getting in wanting to kill Superman
Problem is BvS is poorly written garbage that's bad in more ways than how Supes and Bats were handled as characters

Now post the version where is he is not wearing his suit.

>tfw no Livewire gf.

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If my memory doesent trick me. But there was a comic about Superman when he was done with all this shit and decided to just murder every villain(not stop them how he did but literally purge these motherfuckers once and for all) and at this moment Justice league considered him as evil.

FFS, this dude literally started to do his job better and justice league says it's bad.

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I demand there to be a version where Supes has tits

I was disappointed when I found out Owlman wasn't anything like this guy in the comics

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Pretty sure it was both Batman and Superman TAS that gave me this stupid lip fetish

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It's bad because it sets a poor precedent. Even if they don't like it, those superhumans have to set an example. If their best and the brightest starts to sole every fucking problem with murder, it's not going to have a good effect on general population.

Look, i'm just saying, Superman goes evil when he kills the joker.
But what if we found an alternative way to keep the joker from committing other crimes?

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There is

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Who writes this shit, Jesus.

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reminder that they introduced Terry MCginnis into the DC universe only to kill him off less than a year later

brap

Heh, nothing personnel... Shazam

This looks awful

>Big Barda
Terry better have tapped that

I want my comfy superdad/bro stories back. I just want Superman being friendly hero. I hate this Leviathan event, fuck Bendis.

Knowing comics, that cop is gonna die

Good stuff. WE BOTH LOOK INTO THE ABYSS.

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it's basically a domino affect
like what says they HAVE to set an example on how to do things because your average person is an impressionable retard that will unironically start thinking murder will solve all your problems which will basically result in widespread genocide
sounds very extreme but given how unrestrained people already are when it comes to violence it's not too far-fetched

He's literally 'ethics porn: the character'

wait Bendis is now working at DC? Damn, I have been out of the loop for too long

She's married

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>Luthor adopts pretty much all of Superman's philosophies and his utopia is run, essentially, but an unbroken chain of his descendants. He's a tyrant too
>you can only make a world better if you were born there
Literally all of this is wrong you chimpanzee.

That's not how any of that works. But j can't stop laughing.

read the comic

So the antichrist?

fire > lightning

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lucky bastard

Yep and he's done stupid shit like have Jon aged up and have a little girl hack into a Green Lantern power battery without anyone knowing

There are comic fans before all this capeshit surge, you know.

Can you name a vidya comparable to A Midsummer Night's Dream that won a prestigious award that the very next day they change the mechanics for said award so no other comics will win it ever again.

And that's a good thing.

Oh, it WAS extremely retarded, they were all from a "Dark Multiverse" (where nightmares come to life or some shit) and ended with Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman LITERALLY wearing plot armor
The evil Batmen were basically just Batman fused with Doomsday, Cyborg, Ares, Aqua(wo)man, Green Lantern, Flash and the Joker.
They were also all edgy as all hell.

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I'll never not be upset about him basically killing Jon and replacing him with a completely different character.

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Oh no.

>have Jon aged up
what the fuck, that sounds like a waste

Batman is literally NO FUN ALLOWED: THE HERO

>Lois worked very hard on this pie, Bruce.
>Eat the fucking pie already

Rule 63 Supes is a total qt.

One on the left is Cyborg Batman. Imagine a world where Alfred is killed, Batman has Cyborg create an AI of Alfred. AI goes rogue starts killing Batman’s rogues gallery because it thought it would please Batman. Ultimately Batman is okay with this and merges with the AI. Out of character I know but these Batman come from nightmare universes where everything that can go wrong will go horribly wrong. The Green Lantern Batman is when the ring fell to a Bruce who’s parents were just murdered. The Flash one is a Batman who became obsessed with the time travel aspects of the speed force after the bat family died. The Knight Batman is a Batman who tried to take Ares place in order to make war fair and merciful but ultimately got corrupted by the power. I forgot what the aqua mans deal was. And the doomsday one is just retarded, Batman and Superman got in a pissing match. While it should have been Batman became obsessed with studying doomsday after he killed Superman in order to find a way to beat it.

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This 4-D chessmaster of a genius!

>this dude literally started to do his job better and justice league says it's bad.
Even other versions of Superman would disagree with "kill villains to stop them from killing"

youtube.com/watch?v=egZwhufvfPg
youtube.com/watch?v=aGtiinR6ni8

Based Morisson.

I'm a Batfag yet All-Star Supes captured the true sense of a Superman story. If you're now more acquainted with Supes you should try For the Man who has Everything and Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow.

Yeah, from eating too many donuts. Diabetes is the real super villain here.

>Make your super hero to be the strongest
>Now we cant have good video games because its impossible to balance him
>if you make him weak you dont feel like superman
>if too strong there is no challenge and its boring
Now I will never be able to pick up my enemies and ram them through buildings.

I hate how Hiro changed pass and killed storytimes.

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It's not new thing tho,capecomics usually do this when characters have kids,they did the same with Franklin Richards back in the 80s and 90s it just last for a year or two and then they turn him back into a kid.

Man, you just don't frown like that at a nice apple pie.

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Silver Age is great
They made Hal Jordan so broken they had to balance it out by making him a retard with a shitty weakness

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The Aquabatwoman was that she got her bf killed by metahumans so she modified herself to be better or something.

Hulk Ultimate Destruction already exists though.

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Good lord, what happened to the colouring and shadows of those boots and capes!

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>Only criminals need to fear me.
How is he evil?

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That is a really bad comic

Because he doesn't stick to that mantra.

I fucking love the justice league adaptation of For the Man Who Has Everything.

Isn't that pretty much the premise of that Brightburn movie?

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>"Only criminals need to fear me."
>everyone fears him
mhhhhhhhh

>Not eating a meal that a host has graciously prepared for you.
Batman, you gotta stop being like this.

I wonder who much more of a retard Guy Gardner would be in the comics

hmm

That is stupid

He was putting them out of a job. He had to be stopped.

Say something about Bats, because It occurs to him, all the damn time, it's what pushes him to be the best too, because he's seen people that had none of his power and strength sacrificing themselves and being their very best despite the odds stacked against them, someone with the powers of a god could do no less than emulate them to honor their example.

Guy's not a retard
He's an absolute chad

Red Son Hal Jordan is my favorite.

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guys, what if superman was bad?

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I was waiting for someone to post this

Says*

Yeah, but I don't want this to last for a year or two.

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Top NRS games story modes
I1>MK9>MKX>I2>MK11

>
That game would be easy to make but impossible for them to imagine since they cant break free of their game design formula mindset.

A game where are all but impossible to kill and the enemies are really no match for you.
But.
You are surrounded in various ways by normal civies. And every action you make can fuck them up. If you don't hold back.. You take out civies. Let them get hurt too much, you lose. You have no healthbar, you have morale. Civies dying (even when you are not involved, you just didnt notice them getting run over on the other side of the game map) means you lose moral. Lose enough, go back to save bitch.

And every now and then. Just when you are getting used to not keep yourself safe, just saving everybody else. A fucking hardcore villain shows up and makes do damage control AND stay alive.

Devs aint got the balls to do that game right.

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That is the worst judge death that I saw

>those girls in the first panel
that supposed to be Gwen Stacy and MJ?

Clearly you never saw superman 3. He got drunk and broke a bar mirror. Literally super hitler

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>Still no prime time

When is my Sandman video game coming out? Is Neil afraid after his last game sucked?

it bothered me, how the kid at first cares about his parents and noti letting them know he's done these things, then just straight up decides to kill them.
i mean his parents couldn't hurt him, so why kill them?
seems like he had pretty good parents and even if he's adopted he would feel some love towards them.
but no its just, he finds his powers, hes evil now.

really bothered me.

The fact that that Jeph Loeb wrote this after his son died makes this sadder

It's almost like it was badly written or something.

Is HBO Watchmen the DMC Devil May Cry of Yea Forums?

>Don't watch cartoons
>Hear Superman's voice
>Immediately think of Sephiroth

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Sounds boring, we know Batman will win in the end anyway

God I hope so

It's bad writing, but I think the idea was that he still cared about them, at least a little and wanted to keep his normal life while he prepared to take over the world. However, little by little things kept spiraling out of control while he tried to keep his powers secret - since if his powers were widely known his life would be over. First he kills the girl's mom, but then his aunt says she's gonna tell the cops on him, so he has to kill her, but then his uncle catches him and threatens to tell his parents, so now he has to die. Then his dad finds out about his powers so he has to kill his dad, and when he discovers even his mom has betrayed him, the last shreds of his ties to humanity are gone.

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To be fair, I don't think I would've ever figured that out.

Satan and Lucifer are two different beings

>UUUUGGHHH THE COLOR YELLOW!

People who hate Superman are basically the villain from Flex Mentallo

Literally every piece of major mass market Superman media has been about him being evil or bad for years though

Superman is cool and all, but could he beat Major Glory? Or any of the Justice Friends for that matter?

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If he is doing this superfast, wouldn't the liquid stay inside the bottle when he wants to pour and drink it?

People calling him boring or wanting him to be a bad guy is a normalfag filter for fucking plebs.

>couldn't even beat some little GIRLS
yeah, that's gonna be a yikes from me

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Man of Steel, BvS and Justice League were literally about how Superman is the best and we don't deserve him and how despite being as flawed as us he still fights for humanity to the point of personal sacrifice

Maybe it was a secret tie in to the King in Yellow that never took off?

Does Yea Forums and people in general even give a shit about Superman anymore? Few awful filns destroyed his image beyond repair. And modern society finds unironically good and actually decent hero boring. They need absolute degenerates who quips about poop during battle etc.

>The Justice League literally waiting for Superman to come and save them
That was really Justice League Z, huh.

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shame the comics had to yet again go masturbatory about Justice Lords Batman

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Is this the Morrison Kino thread?

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I want a superman that deals with immortality

>Astronaut lands on the moon.
>Finds a fucking pet cemetery.
>"DAMN YOU, SUPERMAN!"

I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going.

Hitler did it again!

Joker is just as bad as Batman when it comes to DC. Hell even Harley for that matter.

Holy shit, I haven't laughed this hard in ages

I miss JL/JLU

Oh yeah, LoSH was a thing

t. zoomer

Watch Justice League Crisis on Two Earths
It was originally a DCAU movie

>astronaut finds dead hooker skeleton with crushed pelvis and shattered spine

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>REEEEEEEEEEE I HEARD SOME WANNABE BIG BRAIN SAY "SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS" NOW I RAGE OUT WHEN ANYTHING DOESN'T LINE UP WITH MY HEADCANNONS
shut the fuck up

Isn't that exactly what Superman Returns is?

Were Ice and Fire lesbians?

WHERE
IS
MY
QUESTION
GAME

kino

>"Not again."

No_

Never ever

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No, but they are now.

Yo can I get some Question reading recs? Loved him in the cartoon.

The Question was never like that before JLU

are those abs achievable natty?

I know, but still curious.

heh

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>injustice 2
>get Jeffrey Combs
>no question in sight

Just put in Rorschach to appease the normies and have him as a premium skin.

You won't find the JLU Question in any of the comics. Even the JLU comics Question is a bit different,. But I remember finding a torrent like 10 years ago that had all of the good stuff in it. Basically, his 80s run and a few cameos in newer stuff.

My favorite part of the comic Question is watching him change his style to match the times. Dude looked like Patrick Swayze for a bit.

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what about comics that came after the cartoon and took inspiration from it? i know that's kinda how comic books work

Evil superman is unironically the best dc-based idea in decades

hes so OP in that universe how do you even stop him, it feels really desperate and dark

honestly never understood why normalfags want supes and bats to fight, when they're essentially best buddies

O'Neil's run is a must
You'll learn to realize that Hub City is the worst place on DC's Earth

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People sure love to ignore the fact that Superman isn't all powerful.

i mean in dc superman pretty much is all powerful

What if Gordon rapes Batgirl into baiting Batman to Rape the Joker?

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Because they've read Marvel comics. Marvel can't and hasn't stopped pegging Hero V Hero fights as events.

Didn't happen for Question.

He trained a female replacement, went crazy and died of cancer. Never had a big run or anything like that after the JLU appearance. They brought him back in the New 52 in a few forms but none of them were the same or any good.

Capeshit is garbage and always has been.

>japan created the first "super heroes" in the early 1900's
>american jews snatch the idea
>suddenly super powered men in spandex
>what do they do?
>beat up nazis, protect banks and say guns are bad
>now loved by manchildren, feminists and losers the world over

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Well yeah, it's the same guy. It's really easy to hear whenever Supes gets angry or acts darker than normal.

Fun fact, the new actor voicing Sephiroth in the remake also plays Superman

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>japan created the first "super heroes" in the early 1900's

what were they?

he did cameback in rebirth

Everyone's a criminal. Tells a lot about our society.

Not him
Ogon Bat

And yet capeshit comics leftover by US soldiers in Japan actually had an effect on the mangakas at the time

Ōgon Bat 1931

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hub city makes gotham look good

Not when you've got magic users and kryptonite.

What are good DC comics then?

And its unfair laws created by tyrants to serve their needs.

1931 is way after western superheroes though

Yes. Clark Kent has obviously appeared repeatedly in Spiderman and Fantastic Four books as a random reporter. Artists do this shit all the time.

No. Golden Bat is the world's first "super hero."

Not really
The Phantom is credited as the first Western Superhero and he debuted in 1936

>japan invented superheroes
the absolute state of people who hate the West

kingdom come

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You do know they've done that plot many times for the last century, right?

>Came out the year after The Shadow
Oh please do go on.

But that's wrong.

The Shadow is pulpshit not capeshit

I mean, I always assumed the typical western heroes were inspired by stuff such as Zorro or the Lone Ranger

Hitman is great.
It also has one of Superman's best appearances.

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Remember where you are, Yea Forumsirgins applaud things like that and wish ti would happen more often in the real world.

So you're saying Japan is garbage for creating super heroes in the first place?

Animal Man

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>you mean having the three of us doing gay shit

Good to see them going back to the character's roots.

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They were, it's just the usual shitposting idiot.

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Dial H

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Is this the Rob Liefeld thread?

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So when he used magic in the third story we still have record of: he still wasn't a superhero because he was trying to rescue a kidnapped heiress?

It's shit though.

Anybody else read this? Thoughts?

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zoomer

>Warren Ellis
>Avatar Press
95 percent chance of this being edgy as hell

You have no idea. Great concept, TERRIBLE twist and execution.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST PUT YOUR WHOLE DICK IN A BOTTLE, SUPERMAN

I run really hot and cold on Warren Ellis. He'll go between putting out absolutely amazing shit like his run on Thunderbolts to absolute garbage like Netflix Castlevania.

It's shit story with bunch of cool images in between.

He really should have been in Marvel vs Capcom

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This shit reeks of Tameem levels of unlikably smug

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It's not the 50's anymore faggot. And deconstruct doesn't mean what you think it does.

>Rorschach's super activates
>He takes off his mask
>Looks up at the sky
>Shouts "DO IT"
>Cuts all the way to Mars where Manhattan hears it
>Stops and thinks about it for 3 seconds
>Turns a bit and the foe explodes
How angry would Moore be?

Do you have any story/characters interested in? I could recommend a few.

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In the injustice comics superman does has a lot of doubt about his actions, he wasn't even that bad at the beginning until he killed green arrow.
Mostly wonder woman who manipulated him

holy shit it's him

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He's a lot like Garth Ennis in that he really needs someone there to reign him in just enough so he doesn't go full edgelord.

Injustice was a pretty good comic series tho

Also "What's so funny about Truth Justice and the American Way, Red Son, and the current Action Comics Run has been great also.

Speaking of Ennis
The last game you played is now written by Garth Ennis
What happens?

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>current Action Comics
>Bendis
I have my doubts, isn't he also making an event that's basically "psssh, good and bad are flawed ideologies, time for a new world order"?

youtube.com/watch?v=LJ7aLpakErU

Or allow him to kill his enemies with one hit and remove his one and only weakness. Significant improvement.

nihilism was a mistake

>"Patrolling"
Superman was definitely sucking Nightwing's dick.

>Space Station 13
Honestly, he's perfect for it.

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>Space Station 13
>It's exactly the same

Honestly the ending alone made this comic worth it. Ballsy theory on superman there

Superman would never stoop to masturbate.

Ok, I saw this. Nice

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>Terry dies
Then why do they show him in a much older state in Justice League Unlimited?
youtube.com/watch?v=e2pfuSxXaMw

Because Earth 12 isn't Earth 2.

He literally has brain damage though.

t. Snyder

If Ellis and Ennis are coin tosses, would Millar be a three sided die?

>caring enough about the shitty dc lore and backstory to know that fact

Well.. Millar can die.

You don't have to be a DC supernerd to know that they have many different continuities for all their media, you just need to have somewhat of an interest.

fpwp

Alright Yea Forums
Since this is a comic thread, I just need to ask one question
Betty or Veronica?

Veronica. Not even up for debate.

You know what ones they are though.

Sabrina

Don't remind me. Those fucking comics were a pain in my ass when I worked at a magazine distributor. We had them in large bundles of 4 together to make a square. If you're not careful your entire row could fall down. And it was always those Archie comics and those sides-stories.
Sorry to blog but I seriously hate the way they make them.

For me Betty.

For tryhards Jughead.

Cheryl.

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I wasn't even him, but I gotta admit knowing the specific number does make you somewhat of a supernerd

Betty No.1

Lucy or Patty?

Does it matter?
Terry ends up becoming a proper Batman in his later years. Not to mention he's even thicker than his father was during his prime.

Patty's a bro
Lucy's a bitch

Veronica

Yes and no.
By that I mean that it while it does happen, it doesn't really happen in the main DC continuity.

So I haven't read the main continuity yet, but is Terry even born yet?
He was born after Gothem became Neo Gothem.

All the evil batmen were more interesting than the batman who keks.

Now we're fucking talking.

Not only that, their origins were less retarded. Merciless was cool as fuck and Red Death was fun to read.

Why is Judge Dead happy?

So how did that work, forced sex change on a baby Kal-El since he should still be from Krypton?

Nope, his father is still a kid and Batman's own actual son is already eyeing the cowl so I doubt the main DCU's future is gonna go like in Batman Beyond, which was made in a different time.

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Thread about Yea Forums will reach thread limit in Yea Forums. It's a clown world indeed.

The Drowned was meh.
I think it's literally just a R63 universe.

Lord know that Bruce just hasn't pissed him off enough to make him leave, but only time will tell. Even then, Amanda Walker will probably still do something shifty.

Yautha-chan.

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Superman is filthy Xenos scum and therefore it makes sense for him to be evil and in need of exterminatus.

God Tarantino was really retarded with that one.

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The current Batman Beyond that incorporates more modern DC stuff actually shows just how it all happens.

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Remember when He-Man with the power of Captain Marvel killed Injustice Superman?

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Is Rebirth Beyond good? 'cause I was expecting it to be cancelled way back.

This moment was awesome

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>t. Dobson

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I've only skimmed through it so I don't think I could give you a good answer but it seemed fine to me.

A broken clock is right twice a day. There has only been one MCU film where they didnt beat the villain by punching the shit out of him.

youtube.com/watch?v=i4Nov7vSkmU

>A broken clock is right twice a day.
The funny thing is, Dobson has a point very often.
The problem is, it either makes him look like a hypocrite or the message is completely awful conveyed.

I remember Yea Forums making an evil version of Marvel where Spider-Man is an incel, Venom's a chad, Carnage is a 90's PSA mascot who never kills anyone, Ant Man makes everything better by accident, and Captain America is Senator Armstrong+Frank Horrigan.

Everyone who isn't a capeshit queer think the Injustice campaigns are good. Those super opinionated faggots who rewatched the Justice League cartoons as adults just don't seem genuine.

Anime > american cartoon garbage

Comfy thread.

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>durr if you kill him you're no better than he is
why do DC writers push this so fucking hard when everyone knows that the real reason behind the no kill rule is to preserve the status quo to make more money? if they just never mentioned it, it would be easy to suspend disbelief, but they bring it up in canon over and over again

In Batman's instance it's because he's canonically mentally ill. Seriously, his mentality is that if he indulges himself in taking one villain's life, he won't be able to control himself and he'll basically become Frank Castle.

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It makes sense, if you kill one why stop there?
I get someone can be redeemed but most o fhte time is not worth the effort.

>hurr marvel shit
even anime is better written most of the time

Absolute based retard.

He's a big guy

Seething

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It makes sense for Batman the most but then they go ahead and apply it to everyone else who has to deal with the Joker or Joker-level villains who get popular, and even then Batman jumps around from being fine with letting someone else kill the Joker to actively trying to rescue the Joker from other heroes

Meanwhile Superman does kill very occasionally but it's really inconsistent especially across adaptations like in that one movie where a bunch of Doomsday clones are slaughtering Wonder Woman's soldiers en masse and he lets hundreds of them die only to realize the clones don't have heartbeats so he incinerates them all in like 3 seconds.

It's especially bad in the Injustice tie-in comic where the big moment where Superman jumps the slippery slope is the moment where he saves countless millions from being slaughtered by parademons by killing them all with super speed, and Flash and Batman act like that's some kind of heinous unthinkable act

dumb nostalgia kiddy

Is Matt Murdock /ourguy/?

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You could just say comic shit, Marvel has barely been mentioned in this thread

Looks like some queer mandated that they give Superman the lame red underwear so they gave him a thong out of spite.

Bump

Just dropping by to tell everyone to read Irredeemable if they haven't already.

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yeah the anti-gun shit in every superhero piece of media always seemed weird to me.