Goodbye vidya crowd funding. Nothin' personnel

Goodbye vidya crowd funding. Nothin' personnel.

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based epic exposing kickstarter as the scam that it always was

in what way these greedy jews will destroy crowd funding?

Fucking based.

People won't fund games because of the fears that Epic Games will buy exclusivity.

Post the number of games in your Epic account, and the amount of money you've given to Epic.

17
$0

I'll probably never buy anything from Epic. Thanks for the free shit though.

>goodbye something I never participated it nor ever would
Oh no

Wait, people fund games to play them right? Why would they care about storefronts?

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God I can’t imagine that rage shenumue donors felt at having their money taken

because epic is nigger

I mean, thanks? Making brainless fucking normies realise just how moronic kickstarter has always been is the ONLY decent thing Epic has achieved, and that was an accident.

If Epic store kills crowd funding I will give my money to Tom Sweeney by driving to Epic Hq and giving the receptionist my credit card.

Because not all ideas can be achieved, at least via the creators vision/direction, by simple indie studios. Or publishers pass on the ideas because they don't believe it will make a lot of money.

>found a game
>epic buys it
>makes it free for everyone

this is truly EPIC timeline for gamers x---DDD

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we have had exactly 2 good games come from crowdfunding
nothing of any significant value was lost

And good riddance.

>Epic could catch up but is too busy buying exclusives.
They're too busy doing Fortnite updates.

Yeah, but Epic forces to make it a Steam key only, despite promises. Even Microsoft is more decent in this regard.

This is pretty shitty for crowdfunding. Not only do you have to worry about the game never being finished or if it is it ending up shit, now you have to worry about these fucking Epic Games vultures swooping down to take as exclusives.

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They're too retarded to know any better, that kickstarter wasn't even to make the game and it was financed by the corporate masters that literally held the IP hostage with implicit threats they'd never make it unless fans essentially bought it twice. Anyone that donated to that kickstarter is an unironic retard.

>Steam
*Epic

>based pirate poster

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Thanks Tim.

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>donate 10 bucks to a beggar
>"WTF WHY DID YOU USE MY MONEY TO EAT AT MCDONALDS DON'T YOU KNOW THAT I'M LOYAL TO BURGER KING!!!!"
This right here is the summary of the entire drama.

>Outer Wilds
>The Outer Worlds
>Both exclusive to epic
Its like pottery

Every PC gamer who didn't start playing PC in the last few years cares about stroefronts, why would I use a broken featureless waste of my time when I can just use Steam which I already own 1000+ games on? Epic had to release something that absolutely changed the game and offered something amazing to dethrone Steam, they didn't, all they can do is attempt to give you a library by giving away games for free, which they won't even be able to afford to do forever, it's just a matter of time before they become just another Origin or Uplay, irrelevant.

Thanks Tim

Transparency and trust. Your average backer for PC will most likely have a Steam account.

this is legitimately one of the most retarded posts I have seen on Yea Forums.

based beggar

post yfw you never spent a single cent on kickstarter shit

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You'll willingly engage with Valve even though they're responsible for the birth of lootboxes and microtransactions in retail games? I would say that's a bigger deal than Epic buying exclusivity, GOG's the only non-cancerous storefront

It looks like Tim Sweeney has a fetish with the word "Outer".

>Uplay
They don't try to dethrone Steam, tho.

Based. It worked for Kyle Gabler.

Based as fuck, Tim.
I look forward to pirating Control and Shenmue 3.

>The Outer Worlds
You can actually get it on Microsoft's PC store as well. It doesn't get advertised at all, probably because they want more money via Epic. Something about if they're gonna release a PC version along with Xbox versions then Microsoft will sell it on their PC storefront as well.

Not really. It's not charity; it's a small investment. The drama is that the investment didn't work out. It happens, and people are allowed to be unhappy about it.

>Food analogy
can i get a car analogy instead? thanks

Thanks Tim

You're trying to change the topic. The person asked why somebody would choose to not interact with a particular business. You and I both agree that there are very good reasons to do so. I'm not really interested in a tit for tat pissing contest about brand loyalty.

everytime this is brought up people ignore it. People like to be mad at epic

And? We got like, 5 really good things out of Kickstarter. the rest were either ok-ish games, or awful.

Or scams.

Because it's a fucking SCAM and gaymers are the most RETARDED consumers on the face of the earth.

How vidya industry(and every other industry works):
>investors back game developers financially to make game
>game is made
>it's sold and investors hopefully get their money back and profits

how kikescammer works
>investors(retarded gaymers) GIVE AWAY money to developers
>developers make game using money they've already receive for free
>developers now have product they can sell indefinitely for no production fees and pocket all the money from sales
>investors(retarded gaymers) don't get any returns from the investment because they GAVE AWAY money

Card packs in FIFA games existed before any sort of lootboxes or microtransactions were in any Valve game.

it's not an investment, it's sponsorship
they retain all the rights and profits,
you just enable it to be created at all

should be an investment though, would be nice

It took awhile trying to get it to 1 because I hade to do ridiculous surgery on Fortnite to even get that shit started. (Turns out it was a problem with the Epic Store Launcher, who knew?)

Then when I heard of the horror strories customers started getting on their accounts, almost like someone were selling their account info to Chinese hackers, I made it a conduct to treat Epic Store Launcher like Origin Store as the spyware/trojan it is.

Fuck Epic!

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>es because of the fears that Epic Games will buy exclusivity.
epic has spyware and a bunch of other shit in their "application".

this is why im a figchad
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>investors(retarded gaymers) don't get any returns from the investment because they GAVE AWAY money
This is the reason I hate crowdfundings. It's top tier cuckolding. At least in the regular way, someone who isn't the consumer actually had to make a risk (whether is the developer, the publisher or both).

>investment
except it's not. The investors don't see any returns. It's literally a DONATION to BEGGING GAME DEVELOPERS that will starve to death if they don't get your DONATIONS.

You mean like fig?

Kickstarter money is worth nothing for a video game. It's just a bonus, yet too many devs treat it as the sole funding platform. For reference, Kingdom Come cost $38 million to make and kickstarter only got about 2 million in funding. Even Shenmue 3 with 7 mill blew through that easily and were forced to sign with Deep Silver, who then went on to jew mode with Tim.

Patronage is the word I was looking for. It's neither a sponsorship nor a donation. They are obligated to provide something in return.

Yes exactly. Retarded gaymers are literally DONATING MONEY TO COMPANIES so they can earn more money. For fuck's sake. All we need know is bill gates collecting charity for himself to fund the next windows edition.

They did that quite literally ten years ago, since then they have stuck to their RELATIVELY tame loot box business models while other 'beloved' companies like Blizzard + Acti and EA turned them into something else entirely. All lootboxes are cancer but GOG will NEVER be an exclusively usable storefront, no big developer wants to release their game without DRM, and the moment GOG announces they're dropping DRM-less downloads of all their games they'll lose whatever loyal fanbase they've ever had.

Don't forget the Sony money.

Fig.co?

My point is that when it comes to cancerous business practices, both Valve and Epic are terrible and the controversy over kickstarters accepting EGS exclusivity deals is manufactured brand rivalry garbage that doesn't really matter. If a kickstarter promised a DRM-free version if their game, then went back on their promise in favor of EGS exclusivity, then there would be a legitimate reason to be mad, but Steam vs EGS is like fighting over Activision vs EA.

>Launcher that has nothing to do with the game somehow now affects people's decision of buying said game
Yea Forums has gone full on NPC mode.

>I'm not really interested in a tit for tat pissing contest about brand loyalty.

>I can just use Steam which I already own 1000+ games on
You are aware that your digital library is worth exactly €/$/whatever 0? This is why Valveshills are seething over Epic taking some titles and why Epicshills would seethe if Epic were a monopoly and Steam entered the market. You're all fucking retarded

>GOG will NEVER be an exclusively usable storefront
I only use GOG.com and Humble Bundle. :^)

So are the tickets to every event I've ever been to. What's your point?

>to provide something in return.
they provide something to THEMSELVES, a complete product they can now sell indefinitely for no production costs and no investors to pay back. It's not even kikescammer, it's kuckskammer.

Sony only advertised it at E3 2015. They got nothing else or else they wouldn't of needed a publisher

they just haven't made any new games since then, except artifact which was an upfront cost and then you had to pay money to buy the fucking parts to play the game. Valve fucking suck dick now. Epic is trash too, but at least they're giving me free decent games and have alright sales prices.

Free market, retards.

That's right, nothing actually matters, just keep consuming.

Hey Tim, throw some more money at VtMB2, I want some more content after I pirate it! Get to it wagie!

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>Defending crowdfunding.
That's going to be a YIKES from me.

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>Though this is a large amount for a crowdfunded project, it is relatively small for a high-profile video game; however, Sony and Deep Silver are providing further funding.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenmue_III

VtMB2 will never be a Epic Games Store exclusive. Specially after that sale.

You forgot your steam profile picture in that post bro.

>Epic is trash too, but at least they're giving me free decent games and have alright sales prices.

This is actually pretty genius on Epic's part. They don't care about us; they're trying to get the kids in on the ground floor just like when Apple started targeting college students. Epic's free games are only appealing if you're young enough to have not picked up all this shit for cents over the years.

Well tell Tim to give them CCP money anyway. They can always pocket it when they defect to the We... Defect to Steam.

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While I can see your point to companies, you should remember that indies exist. It's hard for an indie to get funding outside of kickstarting.

Normally it wouldn't be too much of an issue aside from annoyance
>Uplay having a NOTSTEAM set up with weird changes in overlay that just scream "REMEMBER WE'RE NOT STEAM"
>Origin just being EA in general and full of tricky click options that try and force you into buying the most expensive ultimate editions of everything
>Microsoft trying to integrate PC and Xbox into one
But for Epic
>Info gets hacked every other week
>lacking basic functions like a shopping cart
>0 Social functions such as friends list, news overlay, update info, discussion boards etc.
>anti-indie dev stance

Kickstarter is dead anyways. There doesnt seem to be any big million dollars classic "revival" Kickstarter anymore.

And that's a good thing.

They've had some newer games that I didn't have yet. that one where you're at a computer desk is kinda cool.

Steam sales are a total nonstarter for me now because the prices aren't as good as they used to be and I have every decent pc game already. Epic giving you a discount on top of the sale price is a nice push.

If the store front is a shifty jew you'll not want to install it.

>Fund our game, and we will give you Steam keys when the game is complete!
five years later
>lol nevermind we like them exclusivity bucks more, epic only suckers
It's basically the bad look involved with taking additional cash from external sources (i.e. exclusivity or publishing deals that make you wonder why the game was crowdfunded in the first place), but with the fun addition of forced exclusivity
in short, what Epic is doing is drastically damaging the trust in crowdfunding (as little as it has anyway)

Papers, Please.
Machinarium.
World of Goo.
Minecraft.
Amnesia: The Dark Descent.
Peggle.
Sam & Max Save the World.
All of them quite decent games.
None of them required crowdfunding nor publishers.

Minecraft was in early access though.

minecraft practically invented early access

Why no one complains about Humble Bundle exclusivities? They're not publishers and cockblock releases in other stores for 90 days.

shenmue 3 did not offer steam keys when they were accepting donations tho.

Video game development money is mainly for paying people to do work. Inherently any solo or passion project is free to make, but when you start getting multiple people that need to quit their job to make a game that's when money is needed. Not counting licenses for other peoples music or voice acting costs.

thats only 7 games out of many indie games. point still stands

They have a steam page still up and had a choice of Steam key or PS4

>Info gets hacked every other week
Not true, the last breach was in 2016? Forum leak btw, not launcher one.
>lacking basic functions like a shopping cart
true
>0 Social functions such as friends list, news overlay, update info, discussion boards etc.
True, not an issue for me. But if you care about that i can understand
>anti-indie dev stance
What do you mean by that?

Nah, crowdfunding is basically glorified pre-orders with benefits at this point.
And when they promise Steam keys just to bait-and-switch later, people get upset.

>but when you start getting multiple people that need to quit their job to make a game that's when money is needed
Sam and Max credits. youtube.com/watch?v=cvLd3i02xao

Well yes, at some point they said it's going to be on steam. But it was after funding, dick move obviously but nothing illegal

Crowdfunding isnt a pre order though.

Greedy devs are double dipping and also ignoring backer requests to have the product on other store fronts.

oh noes, a "yikes" from a shill
how will we ever recover?

That just means they had outside funding. Kickstarter wasn't around in 2007 either. Kingdom come had 34 million in outside funding but still did Kickstarter for a bonus and publicity.

OOF!

>OOF!
Cringe.

The vast majority of them aren't crowdfunded, tho.

Lmao imagine posting this thinking someone will get mad

"why don't bedroom developers pull a full game's worth of assets, code and tools out of their arses for free only to release their product to a fanbase of zero people, rather than using crowdfunding to raise funds and probe interest and sales potential?"

Eh what were indie devs doing when kickstarter wasnt a thing though?
They were making them and releasing them without begging the consumers for money.

>unironically giving a fuck about social features
nu-Yea Forums.

Silly goy, independent developers didn't existed until the creation of crowdfunding.

I read randy pitchford's explanation on twitter on why the epic store is good for producers and consumers in the long run. It was a series of tweets and pretty well thought out. Makes me think he acts like a clown sometimes on purpose. Its too big to screencap.
twitter.com/duvalmagic/status/1117076905021165568

If an indie game promises Steam keys, it really means "this will probably be an epic game store exclusive once we get your money and they see the game is popular." Epic loves this, Kickstarter is currently not stepping in as of yet.

they got money from investors. how fucking dense are you

Yes laowai you got those games for free we promise we didn't take anything in return.

Fuck off Randy.

I fucking hate Randy Pitchford because he took down the classic Duke Nukem games and doesn't sell the World Tour without being pozzed by Steam. I fucking wish he released a DRM-free build.

unironically killed any trust people have for these platforms

They did. Honestly crowdfunding was a mistake imo. Now people who proably never had any dev expérience want to get funding just because they have some ideas. Fuck them.
Honestly without Kickstarter, only the ones determined enough to make games were able to get the money from customers.

He bought it so you don't have to.

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>yeah fuck privacy, fuck my data and fuck security! I gotta get me my free digital toy!
I hope you get stabbed in the face. Seriously.

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This applies to all launchers

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Retarded posters spotted. How mich do you think will gain from a 60 dollar investment after taxes you retarded fuck?
Not everyone wants to spend 500+ dollars in the minimum investiment to have a fucking game, with in ks its waay cheaper than the release version and usually with exclusive content. Whats wrong in that?

Yeah well they should go back asking those investors for funding instead of scamming people.

if he released a DRM-free build then it would be pirated

prospective indies were either not successfully producing games, or they got outside investment, or produced bottom-tier graphics etc. cheaply

also, seeking publishers of course. but publishers are notoriously reserved and won't risk a new idea. so indies remained indie.

There are lots of non-crowdfunded indie games. By principle, I avoid giving money to any crowdfunded game.

Ecks dee.

Yup I definitely hit a vein.

>Epic's investment in technology will outpace Valve's substantially

Fell face flat on the very first point.

Shut up Randy. ePig Game Store doesn't even't have a shopping cart.

yeah fuck someone for wanting to create a game reeee

Under your definition, a bank loan is an investment?

Yeah, goy. Pay for my game so I don't have to do anything while I get all the profits and keep the IP to boot.

Yes fuck them. If they're not able to get some money for their games, then fuck off. Get a job for that and save some money or whatever.

Nope, he's still a clown. Absolutely nothing he said was right and you're a bigger clown for believing him.

one form of it. not many indies went for loans, though. the risk is astronomical with debt. if you have outside investors, they take the lion's share of the risk.

>Get a job for that and save some money or whatever.
Don't tell the parasite about Lucas Pope or even National Insecurities.

who?

>unironically shilling randy
That fuck even tweeted about how epic sale was to earn consumer trust before borderlands 3 was pulled from the store and he was forced to delete his tweet. Imagine unironically believing a store that has to add its games manually to its storefront or update the store at one time, fails to meet any schedule, doesnt even have a shopping cart and who's only draw is a set of slightly popular preorders that will move to better stores after a year at most. Truly pathetic.
The icing on the cake is that borderlands 3 is exclusive for only six months, not even a year. in spite of all of Randy's shilling.

Making risks it's the expectable thing to do in the entertainment industry. Save money, lots of artists did it.

As ever, Yea Forums is the most retarded fucking monkey nigger zero-IQ board.

How has anything epic has done benefited consumers? That's the major fucking issue. Timmy and his band of shills keep pretending they're the saviors of PC gaming when they're using the most scummy console tactics to get customers to use their store instead of making a better store with the money they're spending on bribing publishers

The thing is that it seems that a lot of big Kickstarters get additional funding for more cash. Just look at Bloodstained, Shenmue or whatever.
There's a vid that breask down the whole problem with Kickstarter with the example of Bloodstained.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=9KXxL3W8T2A
Kickstarter doesnt mean the devs wont be free from publishers doing shit. That goes against the principle of crowdfunding imo.

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Team Meat, Quantic Dream and Vblank Entertainment games are self-published.

nah indies will just continue to raise funds by pitching their concepts, such as they are, on the internet and allowing anyone to donate so as to fund the venture, and there is nothing you can do about it whatsoever

*would be free

>I dont have to do shit

You know how much a game costs to make right? In the most cases the ks its only a way of getting investors in.

Replace publisher with developers it doesn't change anything

>crowdfunding finally fucking dies
Good riddance. Long live early access!

what's your point? you want rid of kickstarter because you're bottyblasted over two projects that were funded partly by kickstarter? don't care

Reminder that the majority of indies are still self-funded or search for investors.

That shit needs to die also.

this

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thank you for sharing this verified factoid

So, what's the point of Kickstarter then if they have to seek investors and publishers anyways? Admit it, it's pure cancer, one way or another.

Based too.

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of course it does, egs doesnt support early access, now does it?

Nah i dont care. I'm just telling that the idea of kickstarter has been exploited to hell and is a bad idea in execution.

reading comprehension

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_crowdfunding_projects
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Indie_video_games

At least based IGA didn't sell out to epic.

Okay. Sometimes developers have to suck publisher's dick. What does Kickstarter then? It's just a glorified survey.

since the popularization of crowdfunding please

that's not what he said at all

>give devs money through campaign
>epic comes up and just gives them free money and a spot on their store
>spent my money for no reason

If Epic manages to kill crowdfunding that will be their first positive contribution to gaming.

No you didn't. You funded the game.

Also Iga isnt the one trying to destroy a company by making become western for some reasons. He just wanted to make a game. And got shafted hard in the 7th gen.

*that tried
I should say.

Yea Forums hates crowdfunding because it isn't related to Smash.

Isn't killing steam their first positive contribution tho?

Go take a shover faggot.

the best thing about epic is that you dont need to buy the games in epic store because tim sweeney already paid for your copy.

>since the popularization of crowdfunding please
How I am supposed to have an exhaustive list?

>that's not what he said at all
Enlight me.

When the Kickstarter began, EGS did not exist. It was reasonable to assume that they would have launched onto a store that isn't doing considerable damage to the consumer level of PC gaming. A few months ago they asked backers if they wanted Steam or PS4 keys. It's reasonable to assume that they give the product a backer chose. I assume some of those backers would have opted for a PS4 key over an epic key.

>a store that isn't doing considerable damage to the consumer level of PC gaming

Bitch please, this isn't reddit. You are not getting upvotes for being retarted

>developers still have to seek other ways of getting money, it's not just begging
>acshuary you funded the game, lol
By the way, the Phoenix Point dev has said on record that if everyone would refund, he still would be in the black.

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What's your fucking point?

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>Deep Silver uploads a cringy trailer of MN9, practically killing any goodwill left for the game
>Deep Silver also is involved in the whole Shenmue 3 Epic Exclusivity debacle
Holy shit those guys are either unlucky or they have some hidden agenda.

what an outrage. everything is an outrage. i fucking hate games. ban games.

You're a liar. Crowdfunding it's a cancer.

I'm glad for that, now I won't need to buy control, borderlands and the outer worlds.

Well he's only wrong in that EGS isn't making enough headway into the pc market to do damage. They've only managed to poach some indies and secure "exclusives" from Ubisoft.

>borderlands
6 M O N T H S
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>Epic throws millions of dollars at playstation exclusives to bring them to their client
>I pirate them all
Based chinks, thanks for all the free games

Retard

Whatever, the game is free.

Outer Worlds is an AA game at worst.
Same with Metro Exodus.

Except that the hard work was done by Annapurna Interactive and Quantic Dream. Epic is just making their investments break even.

Nah, volvo's doing a good job at that on their own.

Yeah I'm a liar because I know nothing about what you're seething about. I don't care. Crowdfunding means more games for me to play. Maybe you should be more sensible with your money. Maybe you should be a better judge of character. Keep raging.

The voodoo code that made possible Online Party is exclusive to them. They keep investing in VR and payment methods for third worlders.

China has been generous.

>Maybe you should be a better judge of character
Lmao, wannabe business man thinks throwing money at a web page is like a real business transaction.

I'm not seething. I'm glad Epic Games is killing crowdfunding for good. Devs that went that way are just parasites that don't deserve my money, anyways. You're seething over anyway who says crowdfunding isn't the best thing that ever happened to video games. Kill yourself, shill.

They are not investing in payment methods for third worlders, they are just funding them from western market money.
What is so special about this "online party" thing?

Kickstarter pays me $100 per post to shill crowdfunding.

It means try not giving your money to swindlers you faggot.

You paid money to get a brand new car, and while the language up to this point implies it's a Mustang, after four years they announce that you're getting a Dodge Dart. It's still a car, but it's not what you expected or wanted, and they insist that it was the best car that you could get and won't refund your money.

what

>they are just funding them from western market money.
Well, the point is that they have more payment methods than any competition store.

>What is so special about this "online party" thing?
>One of our main goals for Online Party was that we wanted everyone to be able to play, regardless of their local network setup. Too many times we've seen friends not being able to play together due to a NAT setup, or not being able to open ports, etc.. ultimately the biggest challenge when developing was how to get around those challenges players face.
>Everything changed when the wonderful people at Valve gave us beta access to their upcoming Steam Networking API 2.0. This new networking API completely resolved the issues by re-routing through Steam, which was incredible!
support.hatintime.com/hc/en-us/articles/360021915254-How-was-Online-Party-achieved-
Not even consoles middleware can achieve this.

>Every PC gamer who didn't start playing PC in the last few years cares about stroefronts
Huh, I started playing in ~2001 or something. Windows 3.11/DOS shit, I don't really care that much about storefronts.

> why would I use a broken featureless waste of my time when I can just use Steam which I already own 1000+ games on?
I actually have 1000+ games on Steam and I'm still using EGS, because at the end of the day I can launch and download my games just fine from it, and that sale was pretty good for getting some games really cheap.

There is nothing revolutionary about this. Even fucking playlink is better than that

>epic will beat steam
>epic's exclusive bullshit is pro consumer
Complete nonsense

> I started playing in ~2001 or something. Windows 3.11/DOS shit,

lol okay kid

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>tranny plugs xer ears instead of reading the argument
dilate

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Steam demise is in customer interest

probably older than you then than you are now, you dumb faggot
Castles II and Supaplex was the shit

I will never understand why Boomers love Steam so much. Its just a download client with a friends list. Like don't you have discord for that? Who makes friends on a storefront lmao

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Steam has a lot of handy guides.
t. someone who refuses to buy on Steam, but still finds some content in the community handy as fuck.

>have no exclusives
>users would want to purchase game they can already get on steam
There's no other real way to make a lot of people buy.
>inb4 hurr durr add more features than steam hurr
Won't do shit. People will just buy on steam like they are used to. This must be done to end steam's cancerous deathgrip on the PC ecosystem.
>inb4 tianemen square uhhhh hehe

>This must be done to end steam's cancerous deathgrip on the PC ecosystem.
If you want to end Steam's monopoly, buy on stores that aren't just Steam key sellers or Steam itself.

Boomers don't leave steam at all. We don't give a fuck
I would imagine most steam lovers are around 14-18 years old, since they think steam is pc gaming so attacking it is attacking pc gaming.

>pay more for a game I can get for cheaper online
No thanks sweetie.

I'm fine, my copy is for the PS4

You can't be serious

Have you heard of this little game called Fortnite, old man?

Nobody on pc plays fortnite

What about it, isn't it minecraft cycle all over again? People loved minecraft in 2009, then a year later it was "games for kids" and every teeneger had a hate boner on it. I even remember Yea Forums shilling for fortnite against pubg at one point

You know the stupid thing is, if Epic didn't pay for exclusives, and got better deals for consumers thanks to their lower cut they might have even become.. liked. But buying exclusives just raised the ire of the community.

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I bet people would jump to epic to save 4$

I am loving gabes non moving luigi victory in all of this

another Uplay? origin?

are you retarded? do you even comprehending the specifics of this whole subject regarding Epic Games... I guess if you don't understand then you should just kill yourself kid

Why? Not entering in their ecosystem is the best way to kill their monopoly, if you're really interested in that.

>victory
>borderlands 2 coming to epic
>Their publisher take two is very interested in releasing their game on the epic store.
>Take two also own rockstar
>So RDR2 on epic store is confirmed
Gabe will lose because hes a lazy fat fuck leech on the PC gaming scene.

if I wanted steam to die, I'd just buy on gog. what now, shill?

>go-literally who-g
They are irrelevant because their games are also available on steam so there's no incentive for users to switch.

The industry moves pretty fast. Sooner or later Valve will have to get off their asses and do *something*.

Shill? I was just replying to the Epic shill saying that exclusivities are necessary to kill their monopoly, dense retard.

>RDR2
yeah, didnt you say that would be epic exclusive?
>borderlands 2 coming to epic
>after being sold for practically nothing for several weeks
No loss there
Im way more interested in how they'll find the time to insert these new BADASS games into their store as they have to add them all manually one at a time.
Oh, and when is that shopping cart coming again?

Steam have tens of thousand exclusives. You can't get them on GoG obviously

I mean borderlands 3 faggot.
And yeah RDR 2 will be an epic exclusive. Tick tock steamniggers.

>gog
>irrelevant
epicshill SEETHING at cyberpunk

>If you want to kill valve stop buying video games

Yeah, i'm already pirating every steam exclusive. But it does not seems to work, but now with epic we can do it

200$ profit in 2008. You can't be any less irrelevant than GoG. But it will change with GoG galaxy 2.0, after that it will be GoG chads and everyone else against steam fags

They have publicaly admitted GoG doesn't make a profit. That's what will happen to Epic if they don't do exclusive deals.
Its easy to be a dumbass and hate on epic because Yea Forums told you to.

>borderlands 3
six months before they beg steam for mercy.
Six fucking months, not even a full year like their other indieshit games. six fucking months.
>unironically believing RDR2 will be epic exclusive
kek cant wait for another Epic funded E3 where they release absolutely fucking nothing

2018
fuck

RDR 2 won't be EGS exclusive. Bloodborne will be. Current gaming industry look like this

Sony + epic vs Microsoft and steam.

Sadly, i don't think sony will allow epic to port god of war series

>If you want to kill valve stop buying video games
I keep buying games, I just don't buy games on Steam nor releases that are only Steam keys. I like to support developers and publishers that offer a DRM-free option.

>Sony
Nigger what? They don't have anything to do with Epic.

Cool, you do realize you don't even represent 0,1% of customers right?

>They have publicaly admitted GoG doesn't make a profit
[citation needed]
>That's what will happen to Epic if they don't do exclusive deals
How many units did exodus sell on epic again? How many players does wwz have on epic now?
>Its easy to be a dumbass and hate on epic because Yea Forums told you to
Nah, I hate epic because they took away my gog key for phoenix point
fuck you chink scum

>[citation needed]
Google it dumbass. A guy below me said the same thing. So this is the iq level of the average steamnigger.

>being this delusional

I don't care.

Literally nobody cares about memelands 3, return of the memening. It's a dead IP.

>releasing their exclusives on pc
>Allowing them and only them to use crossplay
>they have nothing to do with them

Sure mate, sure. They have more to do with them then steam have with microsoft

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I bought Hades during their meme sale. It was fun for the few hours I played it, but it sorely needs more content.

Quantic dream isnt owned by sony

>releasing their exclusives on pc
That was done by Annapurna Interactive and Quantic Dream.
>Allowing them and only them to use crossplay
>Portal 2 PS3, Steam cross-platform play
eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-18-portal-2-ps3-steam-cross-platform-play

I know, in fact no one cares about you to begin with. That's the point

tweaktown.com/news/65367/gog-com-barely-making-profit/index.html

>post proof
>google it nigger!
Yeah, sure. proof by assertion is all the rage these days. Gog is dying because I say so and dont question my narrative, yada yada yada

"Yay for Lavos showing the errors of some greedy humans before it kill everyone including me"

That ps 3 thing is not longer functional. Sony decided to drop valve a long time ago

tweaktown.com/news/65367/gog-com-barely-making-profit/index.html
dont @ me again monkey

>in fact no one cares about you to begin with
I have decent entertainment for a lifetime with what's already available.

gamersgate.com/games?filter=feature:12&prio=toprated&state=available
gog.com/games?page=1&sort=release_asc
humblebundle.com/store/search?sort=newest&drm=download
itch.io/games

>inb4 muh indieshit and old games
There are still lots of decent games.
And old AAA games are better than the average modern AAA.

>strong revenues
>ramping up development of cyberpunk 2077
>All-in-all CD Projekt RED is in healthy shape and GOG is just ancillary to its total earnings
Reading comprehension, you useless ape. Try reading the whole thing next time, so you dont look like a total idiot

Are you fucking retarted? CDR is in good shape, GoG is fucking not.

"GOG only made around 30,000 PLN of profit in 2018, or about $7,800 in current USD conversion rates."
kys please

>Thank you! Your epic game store points will be deposited shortly!

-999999
-999999

Better than steam cards, cool with me

>Boomers love Steam
>Like don't you have Discord
Hang on there kiddo, I'm still using IRC, Proboards and Ventrilo.

>not using teamspeak since 2002
Pathetic

I'd actually be okay if they held r-type final 2 exclusive for a 6 month window. Of course, this is assuming the dev team would use part of the epic money to fund the rest of the stretch goals.

where my r-type bros at?

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>Chinese storefronts
Cringe.

so is Epic even doing well? aside from just throwing Money at devs and publishers, it just feels fucking hollow, their Epic sale was a flop and they've pissed off both consumers and publishers, how long will the fortnite money last? or will Tencent step in before the net loss is too much

Great ass

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don't forget to blacklist epic bribe takers, gear is on the right.

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>how long will the fortnite money last?
Eons. Its been the most popular game for an abnormally long time now.

It has never actually been the most popular game (lol and pubg have always had the chinese and indian market)
probably was the most profitable game for a bit there.

My current vidya goal is to get DRM-free copies of everything I own on Steam one way or another.

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GOG/Humble DRM-free copies or TPB DRM-free copies?

I already blacklisted everything on steam by uninstalling it. Not going to support another company with ties to tencent.

Fuck chinks

good no one should ever support epic

EA is responsible for lootboxes. They were doing in 2009 with FIFA.

>That's a nice store you've got there Tim. Shame if something were to happen to it.

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They've had a 40% drop in revenue from last year. Of course that's still enough money to buy a small country but still.

Fuck Microsoft. They don't sell DRM-free releases of even their older, Steam-less titles. And they only pulled this shit because Microsoft Store and Universal Windows Platform flopped hard, specially the latter.

fuck subscription models

but still
based phil

>fuck subscription models
Why? There's nothing wrong with them.

Well it's nice that you think that but next time you see some faggot dev crying about how they can't meet their kickstarter goals remember this thread if you're curious about why people don't fund games on kickstarter anymore.

Can't believe it's fucking Microsoft of all companies that's stepped up to the plate to go against Epic.

Based Phil.

What the fuck are you doing on Yea Forums if you don't care about social features then? If you're such a badass loner you don't need to talk to us retards so fuck off.

jeez calm down Anonymous, I thought you were one of my best friends!

Not him, but why are you doing here if Valve already has social features?

So far I'm just doing GOG, repacks of games with DRM might be a bit harder to get.

because the more the better unironically

Well it's the devs' fault for begging for money on Kickstarter in the first place. If they hadn't made that kickstarter they wouldn't have an obligation to their backers in the first place, meaning this drama wouldn't have gotten this big in the first place.

Really, though, I'm just surprised that Ys Net went with Deep Silver as their publisher instead of Sega. If they had stuck with Sega, this would not have happened.

Has anyone got the full one?

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They are not obligated to deliver a product at all, you do realize that right? Hell, this drama is not big because backers are mad. It's "big" because steam drones are trying everything they could to shitpost against epic. My personal best was today conspiracy theory that epic is behind kotaku artical on cyberpunk

Based

Here you go

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"partnership" I'd like to see that in writing

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Thanks for the free shit I guess fucking subhuman chinks.

Thanks

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Want to see that updated with Microsoft included for maximum clusterfuck.

>They are not obligated to deliver a product at all, you do realize that right?
According to Kickstarter's ToS, yes they are. Not that this has stopped people from getting scammed there in the past, but do you really think such a big Kickstarter scam will go off scot free?
>Hell, this drama is not big because backers are mad. It's "big" because steam drones are trying everything they could to shitpost against epic.
You do know that it is the backers themselves that are the cause of this outrage, right? People are righteously pissed that they got promised a Steam release for their crowdfunding money and instead will get an Epic key even when the survey blatantly promised them a Steam key. This has done NOTHING but hurt Epic's reputation further than it already is, and you shitting on the backers calling them drones does not change that.
>My personal best was today conspiracy theory that epic is behind kotaku artical on cyberpunk
And how the fuck is this relevant to the Shenmue 3 kickstarter bullshit?

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You mean valve partnership with perfect world?
gamerevolution.com/news/462943-valve-steam-china-perfect-world

I could update it with pretty much every big digital company in the world, and way beyond that.

Epic said they would gladly provide steam keys for backers. However they can't because steam does not allow providing steam keys for a game that is not available to buy on steam. Epic did nothing wrong you fucking steam fag, blame devs for going with them if anything

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If you spent even a single dime on this shit then you are a cuck lol

>game journos being retarded is because of some grand scheme by epic to devalue cyberpunk and gog and not because journos are retards have a well recorded history of being retards even before EGS
Yea Forums will believe this

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Oh so you don't understand how business works in communist china so you think that somehow means that GOG is relevant at all to them. I understand now.

Fuck off yellowshit chink go back to your nike sweatshop

This graph is a joke. Just like this conspiracy theory. Tho steam drones believe it to be true

You get a download key. Games that were once Steam keys and being bought by Epic and the project creators are telling backers "lol sorry no Steam anymore, only Epic. PS no refunds."

Vidya crowdfunding was already dead anyways.

>Get to play The Outer Worlds for $10 when it comes out
There are very few games I play more than once, so Game Pass is a good deal for me.