Still hoping that Milk-BOSATU is referring to Colette and Lloyd tag team duo like the Ice Climbers.
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I'm just gonna guess it'll be Ryu Hyabusa, if only because IIRC Tecmo and Nintendo are pretty close, and unironically Doomguy or Dovahkiin, solely because of that Bethesda thing a while back.
>Lloyd
>Tales has like a billion entries in its franchise
>DQ had to pick out 5 protagonists to seem fair
>you think they're just going to pull Lloyd alone out of all of that
At least pick the most classic of Tales protags, Cless.
Doom Slayer and KOS-MOS. Final trailer will reveal them both at once battling the demons of hell together.
Nakoruru and Doomguy
It’s gonna be Mai from KOF. Mark my words.
Want: Master Chief and either Kris or Porky
Prediction: one Capcom character and one Bamco character
Dude, do you actually post this every day? Don't you ever get tired of making the exact same thread, getting the exact same answers, and seeing the exact same arguments every time?
anything Smash discussion here pretty much reeks zoomer Yea Forums.
This sort of behavior is to be expected.
Just remember who got a mii costume in smash 4
Yo.
>he still believes "uh i saw a untextured 3d model which i couldn't see the face of but it's definitely a girl wielding a throwing weapon guys"
>L for loser, L for lardaceous.
>Yuri.
It's gonna be KOS-MOS and Goku.
They specifically stated that the first pass would only have fighters from games that had never had a representative in Smash before, so Sylux would definitely not be one of them.
Between the new characters in the base game and the fighter pass characters we've had a new rep from every third party except Bamco and Capcom(if you don't count Ken since he's an echo) so the safe bet for the last two would be a Bamco character and a Capcom character.
>ab window on classic Doomguy
Fuck this always triggers my austim. The ab window isn’t part of the uniform, it’s battle damage. If people actually looked at the cover you can clearly tell from the ripped fabric and how the other guy clearly has abdominal covering. I wouldn’t care if artists would keep the tear on the thigh too but noooooooo, they can’t fucking look at the cover for 5 seconds because that’s too hard apparently
>Gokuspics
These are the most likely whether you like it or not
>Capcom rep (leaning towards RE)
>Bamco rep (Tales of rep thats not Lloyd or Dark souls)
>Ryu hayabusa
>Doom Slayer
Travis and Crash are the least two characters. Screencap this.
He’s in. I’m probably going to change this because I’ve thought of a lot of ways to better execute some of these moves.
Incorrect my guy. Pic related is happening.
Boi. We all know that shit ain't happening
No insider is going to leak the remaining 2
Square Enix fucked up on their part during the base game, while Joker, Piranha and Banjo werent leaked until the last few days.
Your best bet is to wait for a datamine
Even if that leak is fake as fuck, piss off zoomer.
>uncertainty with Crash
>>>>>>Has no issue with Banjo
Crash is Activision, there should be literally no issue
Crash warms my heart for Smash.
I'm doubtful of Tales stuff just cause it would be a third JRPG series in the DLC pass. I would guess they'd at least try for a better balance,
Here’s to the best timeline
This is the most realistic view so far
I've convinced myself that Namco deserves another spot and Dark Souls makes the most sense
Personally I'm betting on either of these four characters making it in as the DLC fighters we could be getting as the final two characters mainly because of the basis of how inevitable they seem.
How about you link to that post?
I'm thinking that at best we'll only get one more western character in the DLC at most.
>Actually, it was the first time to ask an overseas musician. I was worried whether my direction would pass from the language barrier, but I think I made something that fits perfectly.
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>In an old Nintendo Dream (from 2002) Sakurai confirmed that Banjo and Kazooie were planned to be a trophy in Melee. However, since Rare is a company in England it became difficult for them to approve the trophies and still have Melee on schedule. Joanna Dark was also mentioned.
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If the man was this anxious about the language/regional barrier, I don't think he'd risk any issues from said barrier with the majority of the DLC especially given they have a fixed deadline.
Its not just the musician either, Sakurai tries to get full contact and communication with the owners as much as possible to make sure he's treating the character justice and gets as much consent regarding making any changes for the character for Smash's gameplay.
Doomguy and Morrigan would be a fucking dream come true
>Rayman in Smash
>neutral B is his energy blast from 2
>down B is him using one of the power-up cans from 3
>Ultimate is him making faces at the opponent and scaring them off the stage
I'd be all up in that shit.
what posses people to think tales is good, especially tales of symphonia
Still hoping that Arle Nadja is in
Nice spirit
Also, I'm starting to feel that Rayman isn't playable because of the barrier making Sakurai hesitant
Like, he knows Rayman is highly requested
He definitely saw a shit ton of confused, hyped up comments when he posted that Rayman trophy on Miiverse years back
Hell, he probably knows about the fake Artsy Omni leak
But if there was anything holding him back it was likely either no Nip recognition (which would no longer be valid if Doomguy does get in) or the language/region barrier
Give me Monster Hunter
>Mai
>One of the biggest thots in video games
>Making it in
>When we couldn't get a Tharja trophy
>When Camilla and Mythra had to be changed to meet the CERO rating
>Mai
>CERO rating
>when dlc is exempt from ratings
K.
It's pretty ironic you're using him to deny Goku being on Smash.
why do you keep mentioning fucking Collette, you fucking spaz.
SHUT UP ABOUT SMASH
DLC is not exempt from ratings, you retard.
Pretty sure he's just posting a reaction image
That said, Geralt in Smash is step closer to Goku in Smash so Geraltfags should shut the fuck up
>Thinking we'll be getting a Tales character
>When it would be 3/5 of the roster would be JRPGs
>When Nintendo said they want to pursue new demographics for Smash
>Erdrick
>Erdrick
lmao
This is after Vergeben leaked Erdrick and even Vergeben also leaked Luminary along with Erdrick
I don't believe his post but I'm siding on the mindset that if the trailer didn't take too long to make that the initial plan was Erdrick and Female Erdrick given how Tansut's Cloud source told him so all the way back in December and we know at some point a "Jane" costume was planned for Joker
Two of the following:
>Doom Slayer
>Hayabusa
>Capcom character
I don't see another Namco character getting in
What did Tansut say specifically? Also, Vergeben has been saying Luminary since November.
Tansut said this and specified it was the same source that told him about Cloud in Smash 4
>Also, Vergeben has been saying Luminary since November.
Wait what?
Source?
>Implying Soccerguy will make the same mistake twice
Don't get you hopes up for another datamine that will hint about the next fighter, user.
Doom Slayer & Crash Bandicoot is my dream team of the final two fighters in the fighter pass.
So the only thing that's keeping more western characters from getting into Smash Bros is the language/region barrier between Soccerguy and western vidya companies. I'm kinda hoping for a miracle for getting both Crash Bandicoot & Doom Slayer to be the final two fighters in the fighter pass. But, I'll live with one japanese character and Crash or Doom Slayer in the end.
A guy named Kronoxiv leaked a pm he got from Vergeben. In it, Vergeben stated he heard Erdrick the most and Luminary along with Erdrick. I believe this was done in November, I'll have to look for it.
Can't wait for western smash retards to sperg out like did with the Hero because they didn't get the character they wanted
Doomguy should be in Smash
How many Tales protagonists play similarly? The Heroes, due to their skillset being class based, can be used as alt skins.
As much as I'd love Sylux I don't think he's necessary this time around. Metroid already got great additions in D. Samus and Ridley. It would also kind of feel like the Corrin addition, just there to promote an upcoming game. If they do it I'll be happy but I really don't expect it.
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Found the leaked pm. SE does that shit where they give employees fake leaks and Vergeben later said that people got fired over this leaked pm.
tick tock, blockcucks.
There had better be a Lautrec alt
MK doesn't come out in Japan outside of import stores
It ain't happening
KOS-MOS and Dante
Sub-Zero would be better, but hey, atleast it's not steve
Yeah, I'd much rather if they just let him do his shit in Prime 4 and become a proper character instead of teasing him to be a big deal.
If any additional western character is getting in, its either those two
best possible outcome
They could be anything for all I care. I got what I wanted
Feels good to be free of the rosterfaggotry for good.
Does he have a chance?
Still need a female fighter.
if we assume he only gets 4 alts like DQ Hero, it'll probably be
>Elite Knight set with white phantom reskin
>Solaire with yellow phantom reskin
>Faraam set with blue phantom reskin
>DS3 default knight or Soul of Cinder with red phantom reskin
that way all three games are represented along with showcasing Souls' unique multiplayer
>pic unrelated
Also, no we don't really, that's just some theory people made up and "leaker's" are trying to use it to make themselves look more convincing.
Who the fuck is Colette and why does the same faggot keep spamming her over and over in every OP?
He threw out like 6 Square characters in that message though.
we have one
Smash doesn't follow arbitrary gender quotas
And for fucks sake, it wouldn't be Shantae
Get it through your head, spirits deconfirm
The virgin
>this character is deconfirmed because arbitrary blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and patterns
>comes off as autistic
The chad
>Wouldn't this character be nice?
>his choices sends autists into a seething frenzy
>this character is deconfirmed because arbitrary blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and patterns
Its not a pattern, that would be expecting a female for the sake of it or that retarded companion shit
This is logic
If Shantae was DLC, wouldn't they save her and Risky's spirits for her release?
If Shantae was DLC, it would mean Nintendo would've approached them about it which would mean Bozon wouldn't have had to make that tweet encouraging fans to make her DLC literally a day or two before it was announced DLC was finalized
No parry?
Seriously?
>literally proving my post right
>Resident Evil character(s)
>Chosen Undead from Dark Souls
This. It should be consistent for Smash, and given their tendency for keeping shit family friendly, they'd probably err on the "cleaner" side, like pic related.
The slayer and the slasher.
Reminder that this is the next rep.
Didn’t some rep from Koei Tecmo say that they would rather have Mai in than Ryu?
>Shantaefag calling other people virgins
lol
Reminder that Reimu is a fascist dictator who unfairly oppresses the youkai population.
If Doomguy is the next DLC character, they'll reveal another character alongside him since Doom is niche as fuck in Japan
Now I'm not saying its gonna be weebshit to "balance it out" (Nips were hyped for Banjo as well you idiots), most likely they'll get a character who appeal to both sides.
If Doomguy is announced alone, it'd be a waste of time to most Nips and if announced in the end, the DLC might've ended a character before for them in that case
You mean Kasumi. Mai is SNK.
Also the SNK rep is going to be Nakoruru.
I have literally never heard of this character outside of recent Smash speculation
You're a fucking idiot if you think sylux has a chance
Most people who aren't into fightan games have probably never heard of SamSho in general, so that's not that surprising.
Because she's another Loto situation. Super well known in Japan, and she appears in ever crossover fighter ever, and her new game is getting ported to the Switch in winter.
I don't get why people don't believe Sylux, sure he's unlikely now after the Prime 4 delay, but he's not an unrealistic shill pick in general.
>SE does that shit where they give employees fake leaks
I don't believe in Sylux, but I do believe in a possible Metroid 4 rep. We can't assume the bonus cutscenes from 3's ending will be relevant.
Reminder, if you lived in gensyokyo, or what ever that hell hole is called, you would constantly be singing her praises and would be begging her not to visit your home.
Does there really need to be multiple threads daily until February for a couple characters?
Crash B.
The Milk-BOSATU "leak" is obviously fake. Why are retards shilling it?
Reminder that if Namco gets another rep, it'll be Dark Souls because every other franchise they have is either
>Far too irrelevant
>Far too niche
>Has no incentive for Nintendo to pick it for DLC
Based
fucking id making "Doom Slayer" his official name
This will probably happen anyway since both the last fighters will most likely be released during the winter.
>Implying Soccerguy will make the same mistake twice
already did with ryu/roy in 4 then brave in ultimate
none of that matters and Dark Souls isnt even Namco, thats all FromSoft and I dont think we will even get a Namco rep cause they are fine with only Pac-Man it seems
Also so far both returning companies with DLC have characters from a different part of the company. Final Fantasy is Squaresoft with Dragon Quest is Enix while ATLUS actually gets credited separately from SEGA.
>doom
>niche
Are japs really this stupid?
If Doomguy is in then the other is definitely a japanese-centric character, like what happened this E3 (no a bunch of japanese rosterfags overreacting at Banjo on stream don't make him a worldwide pick)
The whole FPS genre is not that popular there
The only hope for them stopping are those quaint smash headcannon threads. Unfortunately, they ruin those by gradual derailment into speculation anyways.
based
He trended Number 1 on Nip twitter
>When Nintendo said they want to pursue new demographics for Smash
pretty sure that's not an end all be all, banjo doesn't fit this
It's better than "Doom Guy".
SNK deserves a rep.
>Surprising pick trended higher than character we have known to be coming for 8 months
How could this be
The best selling Doom game in Japan sold 11,119 copies
Banjo's an exception and even then you could make the case that appeals to old men who aren't into modern Nintendo
"Doom Marine" as he's called in the UAC logs is better
Banjo got in to make rosterfags buy the pass and you know it
Nigga
well yeah, that doesn't fit pursuing new demographics
Bamco owns the IP and doesn't need From for doing crossovers or cameos
Nips have shit taste, color me surprised
If that's the case, why weren't Souls represented in Project X Zone?
Morrigan and doom is best timeline.
Wasn’t the shareware version of doom 1 really popular?
That was expectations not hopes. And yes, Banjo was popular among japanese *rosterfags*, because the eastern and western smash communities tend to overlap.
Doesn't means he's popular in japan outside of rosterfagging. Actually, he isn't even in the west. He was really the rosterfag pick.
Sylux would be based only for the Metroid remixes he brings.
Because not every Namco franchise ever is in PXZ?
Sorry but don't get your hopes up with Crash, is all I'll say. At least not this time around.
except they do
Banjo sold half a million in Nipland
Compare that to Doom
See
I dunno what the selection process for those games is like but the first game came out only a few months after the PC release of DaS1 before it really took off in terms of popularity
I know there was a 2nd PxZ but that was before 3 came out and IIRC that's the fastest selling Bamco game to date
Aw ye
Sales mean nothing, especially for retro games.
Crash, Rayman, Leon, Doom, Travis, Heihachi, Ryu Hayabusa. I strongly feel these are the most likely candidates.
I meant even in Nipland, Banjo's still vastly more popular than Doom so you can't really compare the two and argue for a weebpick to "balance it out"
>Doom 1
>console sales instead of computer sales
Man, I fucking wonder why Doom has more results than Banjo from 2004 to now
It's almost like Banjo peaked in 1998 and 2000
At one point Doom was in more computers than Windows
If even Banjo needed to be balanced out, go figure for Doomguy.
And he's still the newest announced character. Hmmm........
>Nips
>PC gaming
Jonesy from Fortnite
The AVGN
Except Banjo wasn't there for any "balance" if he's already among Nip rosterfag speculation to begin with
pfffff
hahahahahahhah look at this deluded retard
He's definitely more popular in the west than japan though.
Sharp and NEC machines.
Ryder and Doomguy
Doesn't mean it was done for "balance"
Yes it does when DQ is definitely more popular in japan
Do you really think it's a coincidence? Like they just luckily happened to do something that makes sense in terms of marketing?
>Jonesy from Fortnite
Depending on when Hero was chosen this is actually possible. Considering it was in development for the Switch back when it was still known as the Nintendo NX Nintendo may have known about the Luminary before 2017 and even if they didn't a lot of the leaks and rumours pointed towards Erdrick as the default which may have been the original plan before Dragon Quest XI's success.
But if the choice was made after the game came out Fortnite could have been on the Smash DLC team's radar.
Hero is more popular in Nipland and made the Nips happy
Banjo is more popular in the West and made the West AND Nips happy
> Bethesda
People uronically thinks this is possible.
They have a Japanese branch so communication wouldn't be that difficult
Nips outside of rosterfagging care even less about Banjo than the west
Yeah, I kinda dont like the idea Bethesda ID involved and for Crash Blizzard ACTIVISION
Prove it
They're next
Bethesda being able to make money from a game they don't have to do any work on? Sounds pretty possible to me.
See
Who the funk is Lloyd?
AYO I KNOW MY BOY SYLUX!
I USED TO MAIN THAT NIGGA!
>can contribute for switch's development but smash is out of question
Again, I'm fine with getting just Crash or just Doom Slayer with another japanese character.
Japs hate FPS vidya in their homeland.
First-person shooters as a whole have always been niche in Japan.
I took the time to use the template
Please R8, H8, comment, improve, etc
>Ask for proof that Nips weren't excited for Banjo
>Get a fucking Google comparison from a French faggot
>Its not even in Nip
NIGGA
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1.4 MILLION VIEWS
Why do retards thinks that Japan doesn't like Banjo? He was trending on Japanese Twitter and his video still has a million views.
It's his turn
No, its his turn.
Who is alis?
>Nips loved both Hero and Banjo's reveals (albeit Hero more)
Its not balance if both appealed to them
Not being as popular as fucking DQ doesn't mean he isn't popular. That's still a lot of views for Japan.
Where does that screencap imply Japan doesn't like Banjo?
Ah shit, I'm sorry Mr. Lord.
>1.4 MILLION VIEWS
Literally nothing by japanese smash trailer standards
By this logic Hero is worldwide too, Dragon Quest is definitely at least somewhat popular in the west
Eh, it's pretty close to Joker at least.
I'd be cool with both, I'm just saying not to get your hopes up for Crash in this Fighters Pass since I know that he isn't in. You'll end up disappointed if you convince yourself he's a lock or something.
The protagonist of Phantasy Star one of the best Jrpgs sagas ever.
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If you go to 5ch rosterfag threads, nobody is expecting Doomguy despite the 5ch leak and Hines comments
Joker's trailer showed no gameplay at all, of course it generated less hype
You sure? I checked the others and Banjo has more.
I'm fairly sure only the west was stupid enough to believe the 5chan leak. Most japanese rosterfags probably don't even know about it lmao
Any one of:
Cuphead
Hollow Knight
Geralt
Master Chief
zoom
More than Simon
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More than Ridley
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More than K Rool
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More than Isabelle
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Retard. The other trailers have less than 1 million views. Joker's trailer did well. Retard.
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Based Phantasy star poster, but this little childs probably dont know about the greatness of Phantasy star, and if they ever get to play it, they would ragequit at the minute because of "muh its too hard"
This game is an Event in Vidya history.
>Geralt
BOOK
CHARACTER
I think the point is less about not liking and more about the choice clearly being for the western fans.
>Banjo has a trailer that has more views than most newcomers in Japan and was trending in Japanese twitter
>Hero didn't have this treatment in the west
You're a fucking retard.
>Run up the stairs to my wife's bedroom. cape WHOOSHing behind me!
>Jump up and down on her bed while I chant "BANJO IS IN SMASH! BANJO IS IN SMASH!!!"
>Her new boyfriend wakes up and snaps at me as she groans
>"AYO WHAT THE FUCK YOU DOIN. NEXT TIME YOU WAKE ME UP IMMA BEAT YOUR ASS LIL BITCH"
>"Stop it Jamal, he's just excited... go back to bed, Bryce."
>I head back to bed, less afraid after she defended me, humming the Banjo Kazooie theme song the way there.
Holy shit.. I can't fricking wait! Banjo Kazooie and new Star Wars. What newcomers are y'all looking forward to?
Except we can make the argument it was as much for the Nips as it is for the West
This entire discussion is debunking the claim that it was an organized "balanced" reveal
If it was Doomguy/Hero, it would be "balanced" because Nips don't care for Doomguy but Nips do care for Banjo
The game IS hard tho, i had to grind like crazy.
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It's a retarded point to make. You're actively ignoring the popularity of BK in Japan in order to claim that BK was for the west.
Kino reveal.
Both of them are in hell after all.
Fighter Pass characters so far:
>Character from popular PS4 RPG and long-running franchise
>Characters from one of the most popular, oldest, and most influential JRPG franchises
>Character who is perhaps THE most-requested character who wasn't already in, who in the N64 days got equal billing with the likes of Mario, DK, Samus, etc
Fighter Pass characters you absolute retards suggest:
>Literally Who from a dead franchise
>Literally Who you only want because she's your waifu
>That 5ch post that was made outside of rosterfaggotry that predicted AoCF being on the PS4 and Switch and implied Reimu would be in Smash
To be fair, I don't think that Crash is a "hard lock" for being one of the fighters in the fighter pass, but I just think Crash has a few decent things going for him. Although, Doom Slayer has a higher chance of being in the fighter pass.
I do think it was a balanced reveal but not really for Japan's sake. Hero is going to be ready next but would not spark nearly as much excitement at E3 without the bonus reveal of Banjo.
No user, you don't understand.
Glover and Shantae are in this time for sure!
DQ has 3.5m right now.
So in that case it brings us back here In conclusion, if Doomguy is announced, the additional character won't necessarily be complete weeb bait and likely will appeal to both Nips and Westerners
Yes and we get back to these arguments
READ THE FUCKING THREAD
He's in
Last night I had a dream that Captain Crunch got in, and the guy who complains about "cereal mascots" livestreamed his suicide and the mods stickied the thread
I'd rather have Buzz from Honey Nut Cheerios personally but Captain Crunch would be fine
He has a lot going for him, yeah, but I meant I know some stuff and Crash and Spyro aren't gonna be in (even though it's essentially free advertising and a 'video game hall of fame'). Not that you have to believe me though. I think they'd be a good fit for Smash and hope some certain people reconsider in the future, especially if there's a second pass. Also yeah, Doom Slayer has a lot going for him given what we know from Pete Hines and what Sakurai has said during some interviews about Carmack. He's the perfect FPS rep imo.
This legit got a laugh out of me. Good job.
This would be pretty cool but what would doomslayers moveset be?
how'd he kill himself and what race was he?
DQ has more views than K Rool, Simon, Isabelle and Incineroar combined. Most Smash reveals have less than 1 million.
>Mai actually has more conservative designs from back in her series of origin, Fatal Fury, that they could and would utilize
They could make it the classic Cap'n and give us another sword user with down-B crunchberry counter.
I think if Doom Slayer gets a balanced reveal it will be because he gets announced at a Japanese event. I think Hero would have been just fine to reveal on his own in a regular direct but because it was E3 they needed someone who was going to be really popular in America.
Mai has a "flying weapon" too.
Lanky white guy.
Hanged himself, but he did it execution style, with gallows and all, which he somehow got inside his apartment.
Dreams are weird.
>The Milk-BOSATU "leak" is obviously fake. Why are retards shilling it?
It ain't debunked yet, asshole.
Except one of the biggest advantages in having the character reveals be surprises is that they could sucker in people into buying the full pass without them knowing the full package.
If they reveal him second to last, it wouldn't make sense since it wouldn't encourage any remaining Nips to buy the full pass but would instead incite westerners into doing so instead
If they reveal him last, it would just be a waste of time for the Nips and at that point, people can just individually select what DLC they want without risking it all in one pass
It doesn't need to be debunked, retard.
Nips are already placated with Joker, fucking DQ and Banjo. The majority of nips who wanted to buy the pass already did so.
Honestly I don't see a Japanese event reveal anyway. I expect our last two DLC characters will get revealed in a regular Direct and only get revealed so close because they're both coming out during winter.
Simultaneous reveal when?
After Banjo & Kazooie are released, probably.
Maybe at TGA
Betting money on Crash, Morrigan or Doom Guy to be among the last 2 based on recent rumors.
>Doujin character and Western character
>TGA
Nintendo Direct is more likely
morrigan has no chance
For a dual reveal? Yeah. If they reveal each separately? Then I feel like Doomguy would work as a TGA reveal and Reimu as Direct.
Oh man I bet at least one person has maybe thought that they were wrong for liking something.
I'm probably wrong, though.
I don't think they'll do a TGA reveal
Just seems like a waste of money since it'd be the end of DLC
>because IIRC Tecmo and Nintendo are pretty close
They already have Fatal Frame in the game. He's in.
>Klonoa
If Klonoa gets in then so does Goemon.
Make it the biggest troll and anti-troll choices:
>Goomba
>Sephiroth
Give me a mii costume! Or a fighter
Which is which
I think it'd be cool if she got a spirit and some songs in the game
She deserves it far more than 99% of indies simply because she's crossed over with fucking Zelda
literally who
Kinda makes you wonder if Nintendo did push for an Indie character to Sakurai?
hero made the west happy and hype too retard.
I can see it if they don't announce anything before Banjo. Either that or a Smash Direct in November or December.
Give me the hat goomba
NO CHARACTERS FROM FRANCHISES THAT ARE ALREADY IN
Cool, that means balance theory is even more dead
Travis Touchdown is the last of my three dream picks. I’m happy that two came on the same day.
waddle gang
What was the balance theory?
Like Shovel Knight, but no one cares.
People were interested in Cadence of Hyrule because of Link, Zelda, and Zelda content in general, not her extra ass.
what's balance theory?
Last two characters will be a West appeal and a Japanese appeal to "mirror E3"
To mirror E3, it needs to be a West appeal and a worldwide appeal character. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
waddle gang
Here's your costume mate
based
Heiachi, if I remember correctly.
the best outcome
Doomguy and Travis
Predictions are retarded.
Sakurai asks you to add one videogame character from the 80s, 90s, 00s and 10s, those will be characters added to the fighter pass, who do you pick?
I literally only want Reimu for the music.
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Hero (1988, 1990, 2003 & 2017)
Having fulfilled the requirement, Sakurai can now move on to pleasing fans without limitation
Bub from Bubble/Puzzle Bobble
Reimu from Touhou
Amitie from Puyo Puyo Fever
Kaeru from Kero Blaster
My niche-ass tastes will dominate the world.
WoL would be perfect for the game.
>Best Final Fantasy game (next to 7)
>Best MMORPG of all time
>Best selling MMORPG of all time
>Thousands of moves to choose from
It just makes sense.
>MORE squeenix characters
based
Sure, that's a good argument.
But you can't deny, the fact that FF14 is keeping PC gaming alive, and a 14 representative in smash just makes sense.
my man
Ey, this is Jamal! Fuck off my board, lil' nigga!
Doomguy makes no sense as DLC
Agreed. He should have been base game
Why? He's an important part of gaming history and Bethesda and Nintendo have a good relationship
Because most casuals probably wont know who he is and won't buy him (unless they already bought the fighter pass)
Mach Rider, Geno, Isaac and Shovel Knight.
he eats stevefags for breakfast
>Persona rep is fine
>DQ rep is fine
>Banjo, a series that died over a decade ago, is fine
>The grandfather of FPS games that's been getting massive new games recently is too obscure though
>they wont add a Dragon Quest character, most americans dont even know what that is and wont buy it
>they wont add banjo, most young viewers dont know who they are and wont buy them
Persona and DQ are massive in Japan and everyone knows who Banjo is.
Doom isn't the grandfather of FPS, that's wolfstein.
>that's wolfstein
Excuse me
Yep....the ideal DLC.
If we're getting another western character, it's going to be Crash, since Japs like him.
>Doom isn't the grandfather of FPS, that's wolfstein.
What did he mean by this?
>nicalis
fuck no
This is only for specials, but Idk I’ll probably add that in later or some shit.
>since I know that he isn't in.
who are the last two fighters then?
yarr.......shut up, scalawag.
your continued lollygagging even after E3 doesn't even warrant me drowning ye out with a shanty, now go and walk the plank like the barnaclehead you are.
Ryu Hayabusa, Terry Bogard, Isaac, Don't care
>banjo
>sylux
never ever
Honestly after Banjo I don't care who gets in, everyone I ever majorly wanted is in now, so bring it on
Though specifically Wonder Red would be nice
gave me a good kek there, old chum
>thinking they would cap off the dlc with literally who sylux
Why are you smarsh tards so delusional
>80's
Bomberman, Mach Rider or Ninten
>90's
Terry Bogard, Lara Croft, Crash Bandicoot or Doomguy.
>00's
Master Chief, Isaac or Sora
>10's
Rex, Shovel Knight or Sans
>80s
Sukapon, Excitebike, Ryu Hayabusa
>90s
Geno
>00s
Phoenix Wright, Heavy, Quote
>10s
Steve
Dig-Dug
Doomguy
Paper Mario or Isaac
Chosen Undead
>Doom Slayer has a higher chance
Alright, as much as I want Doomguy to get in Smash this is bullshit. Crash is really popular and highly requested to where he's usually within the top 10 codes in Japan whereas Doomguy is barely even on the polls nor is Doom even very popular in Japan. The only thing that gives Doom a shot is how Sakurai acknowledges it as the grandfather of FPS games but that's it. Crash is much more likelier than Doom Slayer it's not even funny.
Taizo Hori
Klonoa
Master Chief
Primarina
Are Crashfags always this retarded?
Dude, he's right though
Crash appeals to both sides more
t. Doomguy supporter
but he isn't desu
>he isn't
In terms of expectations yes.
GIVE ME DOOMGUY AAAAAAAAAAAa
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See Doom to Nips is what Dragon Quest has been to a chunk of Western Smash fans
Crash is more like a Banjo situtation in which both sides recognize and anticipate
Expectations means shit when nobody's been able to predict Nintendo all too well. Doomguy has Nintendo pushing Doom and other Bethesda games hard, Bethesda confirming that they've talked to Nintendo about Smash and unconfirmed Nintendo surprises at Doomcon going for him. That's a lot of shit.
this is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
ninja gaiden trilogy are getting remastered, no eta
super mario rpg is getting a nu-mario & luigi style remake, slated for summer 2020
I don't know, I only know that Crash and Spyro aren't
>80s:
Tetromino
>90s
Doomguy
>00s
JC Denton
>10s
Adam Jensen because fuck you
Goku was straight up deconfirmed by Samurai like a month ago. Cope
you are all a bunch of fools, watch this
god imagine how gay it would be if they topped it off with yet another Mario character
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Doomguy gets a trailer where he's mowing down dry bones
Playable Yian Kut-ku is my ultimate never ever for smash
Are Doomfags always in denial?
Yeah the delusional surrounding Doomguy is something else. Just because he should be in doesn't mean he will be.
You could do all four of them like the Heroes from Dragon Quest
The denial about Doomguy is worse. I've never seen retards try to twist things so hard to try to make Doomguy seem unlikely.
Doomguy has a pretty decent chance, yes, but anyone who says he's guaranteed is retarded.
Can someone please tell me why Doomguy would get in before Dragonborn?
Skyrim was used to promote the Switch itself and has a much bigger following in Japan than Doom does, not to mention Skyrim is far more iconic to anyone younger than 25 or living outside of the United States
He's not guaranteed. But he has a ton of things going for. It's honestly pretty similar to Hero's situation, except without datamines and leaks.
geno is so fucking out of place here
Yeah he definitely has a chance for sure, it's just he's not as guaranteed as everyone thinks. If one dlc slot is a western rep, there's absolutely no way he'd be picked over Crash. Even as a Bethesda choice, he's up against Fallout and Skyrim too which are not only more popular in Japan but more recognizable around the world. Doomguy is just the character that deserves to get in the most and best to rep his genre, but his chances are realistically really low.
Zoomer? Really? All I see is boomer shit. Doomguy is lame. Banjo is literally only liked because of nostalgia. Same with Tales, DQ and Shantae.
Metroid prime can also suck it.
Because fuck you
Can someone please tell me why Banjo would get in before Steve?
Minecraft was used to promote the Switch itself and has a much bigger following in Japan than Banjo-Kazooie does, not to mention Minecraft is far more iconic to anyone younger than 25 or living outside of the United States
Doomguy has a new game coming out, Bethesda is putting extra effort in Doom and they teased Doom related surprises for Nintendo fans.
>Even as a Bethesda choice, he's up against Fallout and Skyrim too
Which hardly matters since Bethesda has been focusing on Doom and we know that Nintendo is probably involved with the new game in some form.
Not comparable, Banjo had by and far the most requests out of any other character when it came to rosterfagging and he'd been a top pick for years
People started really wanting Doomguy a few months ago, right after all the DLC was finalized
>Doomguy has a new game coming out
Nintendo is picking the DLC, not Bethesda. They don't care what's coming out and what isn't.
>they teased Doom related surprises for Nintendo fans.
Source? Interested in hearing about this
>People want a second season pass.
>But lots of people won't even buy the first season pass and will only buy the characters they want.
>Thus lowering the chance of a second season pass they want, because of the lack of the sales the first one got from people who didn't get it.
She is such a fucking asshole, I love her.
It's still ultimately up to Sakurai and Nintendo to pick a character though, Bethesda could suggest Doomguy but they can't outright choose him. If it were up to Sakurai he'd probably go for Vaultboy just because he loves Fallout so much.
>She narrowed my field of view, right? Thank god I didn't have to see her terrible Danmaku.
>9/10
this is pretty good to be honest
The high score is what makes it perfect.
Why are so many convinced of Reimu’s inclusion? I see a lot of people talking about her and how she’s in and I just want to know why. I’m not against her inclusion
It's less about people thinking she is in and more about them being carefully optimistic about it. There is no guarantee that an indie will be part of the DLC, much less Reimu. People like the character and acknowledge the franchise's feats so they support her, it's wishful thinking at best.
I don't understand this either. Touhou definitely has a huge cult following in Japan, but the thing that I don't get is how she's barely if not ever requested in polls at all just like Doomguy. Yea Forums is the only place I've ever seen support for these two (not that they wouldn't be great additions).
There is nothing to twist, he is unlikely. A non-zero chance doesn't make him likely silly.
>Source? Interested in hearing about this
He's talking about Pete Hines saying "and who knows, maybe more surprises for Nintendo fans" on the Nintendo Power Podcast, after discussing Doom.
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about 39 minutes in
Tony Hawk and Hakkun
Touhou isn't popular with smashfags (including Japan) but Joker showed that it doesn't really matter if the franchise already has its strengths (plus Sakurai bias). We know that Sakurai is a shmup fan so he probably knows about 2hu, whenever or not he is a fan is a mystery though.
Geno and this
Yeah, if Sakurai's a fan then Reimu's chances would sky rocket.
That would give us four Square Enix characters
Seems very unlikely
I'm surprised they voted MH up to #9. Shouldn't they know more than anyone that hunters aren't used to rep the series?
Hakkun would be unironically based
It's very odd how we still haven't gotten a shmup character. My theory is that because most of the historical ones are space shooters, you can't add a miniature ship in a way that works well (no limbs, constantly airbone, etc). I am not a big shmup fan so I can't say that there are no humanoid characters he could use.
*ahem*
You know what? I could see the madman doing it.
A lot of us don't really think she's guaranteed or anything, or even all that likely, just that she has a legitimate chance.
I still don't understand how people don't see that the most likely dlc are Crash and Heihachi/Lloyd.
Honestly wouldn’t a batter way to showcase souls’ unique multiplayer be to have phantoms somewhere in the moveset?
>miniature ship in a way that works well (no limbs, constantly airbone, etc).
Could always go for Twinbee, or Pentarou.
Both Twinbee and Reimu would make me nut.
Honestly depends if Nintendo considers adding an indie character
Reimu would definitely be on the list given
>Last December, ZUN had officially given Nintendo a license, allowing Band Brothers players to upload music based on all Team Shanghai Alice albums, i.e. the PC-98 Touhou OST, and ZUN's music collections. They followed it up with a Shanghai Alice Remix Contest for players, with ZUN as a special judge. The winners were announced in the previous broadcast ZUN attended; their compositions will be collected in a CD sold at Reitaisai, marking Nintendo's first ever appearance at Reitaisai.
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>Z" Wowwow Well ... in the future ... Well ... I wish I could make a good talk with Nintendo-san, it was today's broadcast that makes me feel such a dream. "
>Z" I want to make friends with Nintendo, not only Sony is making friends "
>Z" Because Toho is not so much something, there is a healthy Toho world "
It's great how Reimu works as both a shmup and an indie rep but I feel like she does a better job at representing the former. The problem is that lack of humanoid shmup protags who are not literal whos.
I don't think she's very likely at all but it's nice to dream! I do think she has a small chance though.
>the polls
There's your problem. This DLC wasn't decided by the ballot or other forms of fan requests, they were chosen by Nintendo.
*the later.
Just add both since they were originally echoes of each other to begin with.
Yeah, and Nintendo is not going to choose a Western character from a violent video game series that people barely give a fuck about in Japan.
DOOM barely sells on Nintendo, you'd have to be braindead to think that Bethesda and Nintendo wouldn't give preferential treatment to Vaultboy, or the Dovahkiin, whose game sold millions of copies on Switch.
I remember a bunch of anons pointing too Reimu partially for the exact same reason as if doomguy is announced, she's practically female jap doomguy regularly beating the hell out of jap demons who do crazy shit like block out the sun cause vampires or straight up walk into hell, beat up a fuckton of oni, faeries, and general hell is being, too proceed too throw down against a hell raven that ate the God damn Japanese God of the sun.
Not to mention they all represent stuff not in Smash :
Doomguy - FPS
Reimu - Shmup & Indie
I really want it to happen, but I doubt it will unfortunately.
>Now I'm not saying its gonna be weebshit to "balance it out" (Nips were hyped for Banjo as well you idiots), most likely they'll get a character who appeal to both sides.
>Style Savvy
>not Cooking Mama
baka senpai
Too be fair there is a western fanbase, the issue is western touhoufags are mostly filthy weebs who treat the series like it's anime and act like massive faggots.
they will become the ultimate couple.
>too proceed too throw down against a hell raven that ate the God damn Japanese God of the sun.
That was Subterranean Animism. That was the final boss.
This was the Extra Stage.
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Oh I know, I was just pointing out since I mentioned EOSD and SA specifically.
So did I miss a discord meme or something? What's with all the Reimu shit all of a sudden? Touhoufags used to get laughed out of every thread before the Banjo reveal and now suddenly they're ok because they've leeched themselves onto Doomguy?
>she's practically female jap doomguy regularly beating the hell out of jap demons who do crazy shit like block out the sun cause vampires or straight up walk into hell, beat up a fuckton of oni, faeries, and general hell is being, too proceed too throw down against a hell raven that ate the God damn Japanese God of the sun.
Don't forget bringing peace to her homeland because all the supernatural creatures are scared shitless of her.
>Touhoufags used to get laughed out of every thread before the Banjo reveal
user, tell me, what group of shitposters known to have an organized Discord group collectively got BTFO with Banjo's reveal?
Banjo's reveal broke the last seal (muh wide appeal) so pipedream picks like Reimu and Doomguy are now acceptable enough to be discussed.
>muh wide appeal
Except both Japan and the West got excited for Banjo
>they were chosen by Nintendo
So Nintendo is going to pick Doom when there's little to no popularity within Japan rather than characters that have been chosen numerous times in a popularity poll. How does that make sense.
Unless she's wacking people with babies, I'd take the cute girl over her anyday
I want AceAttorney representation but I don't need a whole character
Banjo was incredibly popular in Japan too, dumbass
They're both one sided whereas Banjo had support from both sides.
Yes, Phoenix isn't your traditional combatant, but that's what makes him much more interesting of an inclusion.
Villager and Isabelle did it, why can't our lawyer boy do it too? Hell, he's been in fighting games before and can easily have a Smash-unique take on him.
Nah, it's gotta be a Discord meme.
No one in their right mind watched the Banjo reveal and thought "UUUUU THAT MEANS REIMOOOO"
This guy gets it
He's coming.
Phoenix is based, but it'd be kinda wrong if Capcom got 4 reps when Namco still only has one and they helped make the game.
Coward.
It's all or nothing.
jesus you sound like a giant pussy, is ok to support the character you like, it always has been, and reimu always got threads and fans. doom bros are falling in love, thats the real magic of smash threads, and why these shit threads keep getting made.
>This guy gets it
user, I'm saying that the people who spammed Reimu out of threads were the shitposters. So far the only Reimu shitposters I've seen were super obvious false flags.
You'll notice nobody in this threads is saying "DUDE REIMU IS GUARANTEED IN I SWEAR"
>using Weedman to shitpost
Fuck off.
Fair enough. Don't forget DQ being added, whose popularity is mostly concentrated in the east where it is a cultural phenomenon. Banjo also killed the "Japan only" rule which helped Doomguy a bit.
>Doom bros are falling in love
>Mega Man
>Ryu
>Ken, which should count as like half an inclusion
I'd say more like 2.5, where'd you get 4?
Namco could certainly fill in the last slot. If I had to imagine, it'd probably be some Soulsborne characters.
If you paid attention to these threads, you'd have seen some people who wanted both Reimu and Doomguy in these threads for months. Post E3, there's been some obvious falseflaggers though.
>lloyd and sylux
how about this on for size
Ah, I thought you were saying the Stevefags switched to Reimu, which was entirely believable to me.
Is this any better?
Banjo may have killed the "Japan only" rule but Doomguy has to kill the "Japanese popularity for third parties rule"
K.Rool, Diddy Kong, and Dark Samus had already broken the "Japanese characters only" rule.
I want him in, but I'd be happy with just a spirit or a costume or something.
Bare minimum for Ace Attorney should be music, and the bare minimum of that should be Cornered. I just want to smash to some AA tunes.
keep lurking and you'll see, is a beautiful thing.
>Don't forget DQ being added, whose popularity is mostly concentrated in the east where it is a cultural phenomenon.
DQ was still recognizable in the West and there was no way it wasn't going to be the next Square rep when it's a cultural phenomenon as you said next to Pokemon. Doom is incomparable as it's well known but not as big of a phenomenon in the West and barely has any presence in Japan. So that means nothing.
>Banjo also killed the "Japan only" rule which helped Doomguy a bit.
It helped him a bit, but that doesn't make him any liklier, if anything it made every other western character more likely and Crash basically a shoo-in. Banjo-Kazooie were also an honorary Nintendo characters until Rare was bought out by Microsoft and they've been as heavily requested as Ridley and K. Tool for years since Melee in which they were originally considered to be playable. So this argument doesn't do much either and if it meant anything, it just means Crash is getting in which would actually just hurt Doomguy's chances.
Smash threads were a mistake
I don't understand how so few people consider a Monster Hunter rep as a possibility conaidering how big the franchise is.
4 (or 3.5) including Phoenix if he got in
This entire board was, honestly.
mistakes into miracles, man.
Monster Hunter is already repped by Rathalos as a boss with some music, the maker of the game even said he didn't want the Hunter to be a representative of the franchise.
and has a freaking boss already, but thats the thing, people care about the monsters not about a hunter.
Finally, something in this thread I can agree with.
Monster Hunter is about the monsters, not the hunters.
Capcom just has a library of iconic franchises that made their stake in the gaming industry. It shouldn't matter the company; it should matter what the character or franchise's legacy is.
Doomguy and Reimu as a couple is much better than you think, user
I'd be more interested in Heihachi and Geno as the final two.
No.
I don't want this spiel.
Save it.
>doom bros are falling in love
For the love of god, there is nothing going on, no alliances, none of that gay shit, it's just a coincidence that a lot of Reimufags also want Doomguy.
it's too late
the two demon slayers are a thing now
This.
nigga there is literally fanart in this thread.
No one is talking about alliances, but they have been a common ship for a while now.
This.
This whole "DUDE DOOMBROS DUDE BANJOBROS" alliance/war shit is cancer. Just like who you like.
No more than Joker, Hayabusa, or Banjo-Kazooie.
>solaire
Lol. He’s an alt at best.
MH is already in smash. The avatar is already deconfirmed because of this.
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I dont see Lloyd and Heihachi getting in when they were both mii outfits and DLC is series new to Smash
Lloyd wouldnt make sense either when hes from the gamecube era and the jrpg protags like Joker and Luminary are recent, also I cant really see Velvet getting in. Heihachi is out cause of the mii outfit and Sakurai making him a outfit cause he couldnt do a 3d base fighter justice in 2d
oh wow, i must be retarded to not see that
Ken? Ken why are you looking at me like that? n-nani!? oh fsdgrfhtyh,,,,,,,,,,
Anyone else think a Pokemon rep is fairly likely? The next DLC probably isn't coming out till around November/December, and that's Nintendo's only big release around that time.
If Nintendo decides to shill their own series, we might be getting a Pokemon and Fire Emblem character desu
The other guy was clearly talking about Doomfags though.
People laugh at the heavy being a fighter but I would legit hurt someone for it
Hopefully it’s this one
she is in.
I am the only Doomguy supporter, all these posts about him are mine.
why are you so mad that people is having fun?
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>no drakeblood alt color
>pyromancy flame
there are too many flame attacks in the game as it is, a lightning spear would make CU stand out better.
>bonfire
as much as I like this, it may need a little bit of tweaking
Everything else is fucking great. I seriously hope he gets in
This is how it ends
>tfw it constantly irks me having picks that could easily happen and not happen at the same time
I try not to think about it, bought the whole pass just to support Samurai and the potential of another one but Im only genuinely ecstatic for Banjo. and I have at least two more in mind that could fit perfectly but knowing my luck the complete opposite could happen
Last one is a a duo and not separate characters.
Have they ever done a legendary before? Mewtwo doesn't count, it's not a box legendary.
I don't really expect an FE rep considering it will have been like 6 months between the release of the game and a Smash character.
>Reimuniggers want her in smash.
I only want to see this if ONLY to see /jp/ fall into mass suicides, they're beloved franchise collaborating with FILTHY CORPORATIONS taints the pure intentions of the creator.
For the Japanese pick I'm expecting something nuts that would make Yea Forums seethe.
I assume the joke there is
>Reimu kills Youkai
>Doomguys kills demons
>Youkai are just Japanese demons
Pretty much and also Hell.
First, /jp/ would shit itself because the thought of doing something that isn't dumping fan art all day makes them upset. They would also expect newfags but the board is so crappy that nobody but the same breeding of stagnated waifufag would stick around. Most of the damage would come from paranoia.
Second, ZUN already did similar collaborations in the past. He already ported official games to the PS4, switch and steam. He also allowed his characters to be used alongside Nintendo characters on a 3DS Taito game. I doubt that a Smash inclusion would break the doujin spirit since he would still own the characters at the end of the day.
>It's gonna be KOSM and Goku.
ftfy
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Youkai is more of an umbrella term for different kinds of supernatural creatures. Pic related.