"Personally, a world that is happy and bright is something that just doesn’t feel realistic to me...

Truly based and redpilled.

good and evil are not natural/primal things

>that country takes care of it's own,

This isn't even the actual homeless.
Look up Japan homeless population

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don't they give government "handouts" to the unemployed? Every country I know of gives neetbucks, so surely Japan is not an exception?
sounds really regressive for such an advanced and sophisticated civilization

Good and evil are both choices.
Even if you're born into good, or born into evil, there come times in your life where you're given the choice to be one or the other.

men are human by nature, and that alone is enough for condemnation

>Every country I know of gives neetbucks
not even every state in America does this

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have sex

Workaholics and incels cover 100% of Japan.

Thats the feeling I get when watching nature documentaries, all this peace and prosperity humans enjoy came from in spite of natures cruelty.

incel i command thee to cope dilate and have sex!

A lot of behavioral and personality disorders are genetic so under the right circumstances yes

Neither. Good and evil are purely human concepts and you can justify anything as good or deride it as evil if you are biased enough.
And good people can easily do bad deeds, as bad people can easily do good ones.

>DON'T BRING ARGUMENTS INTO THIS DON'T YOU SEE I'M TRYING TO BE MAD?
Go back to laying those bricks, Johnson.

Men are niggers by nature
The question is, are niggers good or evil by nature?

"Good" because being "good" is fundamental to a well functioning animal society and even animals display signs of compassion and empathy. It is a natural thing and moral relativist faggot who claims otherwise can suck my cock.

You may not understand this but rich people have a different set of problems

No one in this world is free of problems and to everyone their problems are the biggest, so there is no real compare

Work a year in any bussiness that handles dangerous or toxic material and you'll see he is absolutely right. People have no idea how much illegal shit is happening in broad day light. And that is the West, I can't even imagine how it is in other parts of the world.

WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR PICTURE???

I'M SO WORRIED

>lol like all the same bro just skin deep
niggers are niggers

If we assume good and evil are inherent to the universe and not simply manmade constructs, then man is pretty evil. Doesn’t mean good can’t spring from it though, like order from chaos you can get good from evil. It’s far too complicated to classify it that definitively, at least with our current understanding of reality and the world.

this is a retarded rich 1stworld problem
for the poor, their problems are about survival, depression and a lack of options, health or comfort
for the rich, their problems are dumb, shallow shit like social issues or work related stress

The main difference is that the poor usually don't get to choose, while the rich can usually just do something about it due to their finances and freedom

>rich people don't have problems!!!!!!!
You people still exist?

>he's never seen that picture before
How new are you?

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Not malicious, but indifferent.

The only problems rich people have are all the same problems poor people have in addition to all the others rich people don't. Growing old and dying.

Morality doesn't exist in nature, fuck off with this shit. Their "signs of compassion and empathy" are learned responses that are acquired because they maximize chances of survival, they have zero understanding of what they are actually doing because they lack self consciousness.

Men are selfish by nature, some more so than others but all to an extent. Selfishness leads to exclusion which can be seen as evil by the excluded, or good as experienced by the included.

Man, something about the way the eyes look in this one always gets me whenever I see it

Yeah it's such a big problem when you have to decide what to eat today or what gift to buy to make an impression.
It's such a stress to go to work and earn enough money to pay a house loan in sub 5 years.
It's such a stress to worry about what others think of you when you wore red shoes to the ball.

this, except rich people are relatively safe from health issues, too, because they can afford the best medical care and the fastest transportation, especially if they're some kind of VIP

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???
what he said doesn't relate to being poor or rich at all, the fuck are you on about?

They're not perfectly safe because it could be hereditary or congenital and many diseases or disorders cannot be treated, but merely controlled, but still their wealth affords them a substantially higher quality of life even living with diseases that kill poorfags by the millions.

Realism is darkness. Art is pain. Happiness is for babies.

>my chardonnay was bitter, which made me look like a fool at the dinner party!!!!!!! I specifically asked for a 1981 and they gave me a 1982!!!!!!!

Fuck you. Rich people problems are manufactured through greed or apathy. A rich person couldn't have their entire life derailed over a lost $20.

In a way it doesn't, but my point is that it's always some fucker who has it good that preaches about how awful place the world is - when they themselves are fairly comfortable

user is just poor and insecure about it

I don't disagree but unless Miyazaki is actually a cunt of a CEO, his decisions will influence hundreds of people's lives in the company. That can be a lot of pressure to endure knowing so many rely on you.
Or he's the Bezos' type of CEO that can fire a few thousands without even stopping his kobe beef lunch.

There's no good and evil, everyone does what they think is right. So what may seem evil to you may be good for someone else and vice versa.

Seeing as he's japanese, I'd guess the former.
Asians are notoriously ruthless business people, and I think he's more worried that the people live up to his designs than what he is about their well-being

Why do you think rich people only care about the most petty of things?
If a family member dies that's gonna make you sad rich or poor

Everyone on earth does it, but only the rich and powerful get a spotlight for everything they say. I doubt Miyazaki thinks he's telling some deep reveal about the world, he's just saying what he believes in. Plus, as we've seen with cases like Robin Williams, being on top of the world sometimes just isn't enough to fix things.

Does this world suck? Yes.

Do people suck? Yes.

Does your life half to suck even when the world and mankind are trying their best to make it so? Nope.

Embrace the selfishness. Care for what happens to you and your flock, don't bother giving headspace to what doesn't. The world will show you love, hate, despair, and everything in between in time, there's no need to force an introduction by proxy.

His opinion would have had a bit more impact on me if he didn't regurgitate the exact same thing since Demon's Souls. To the point that you can almost safely summarize Eldin Ring as "Shit's fucked, pick the ending that in your opinion fucks you less; but you're still gonna get screwed by taxes"

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Possible but I don't quite see it. There's cases like Iwata cutting his own salary after the WiiU bombed just to save people's jobs. I kinda see Miazaki doing the same if necessary, if only because he likely doesn't take his fame and fortune for granted.

Nobody is good

>Plus, as we've seen with cases like Robin Williams, being on top of the world sometimes just isn't enough to fix things.
Well obviously not, he wasn't mentally healthy.
Robin WIlliams' brain was degrading fast so he chose the easy way out, it was to avoid giving his family false hope, and also to avoid losing himself
Any man in his shoes would've chosen the same

If the world sucks so much why pick the lesser evil? Be an absolute badass and pick the most awesome evil.

NEET implies you don’t set yourself up for this. The only way to get cash from goverment were im from is by joining job hunt programs and meet job coaches 3 times a week or be mentally ill and convince em you are unable to work. If you do either you don’t count as NEET

you're good

This type of thinking has a tremendous track record of being wrong. Nearly everything that was ever thought of as something only humans can experience has been shown to be experienced by animals on some level. The mirror test can demonstrate that some animals are self conscious, so even that one has been debunked.

>implying
I’m a god among men. And I reckon you’re pretty good yourself, so don’t talk about yourself like that.

>it's just nature bro
One of the dumbest opinions one can have. Good and evil don't exist in nature, they are purely man-made concepts.

You realize that you're better off than 90% of people on this planet just by the fact that you live in a civlized country and can enjoy spending time shitposting on Yea Forums?

I'd like to see those citations retarded christfag.

Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling... makes no difference. The degree is arbitrary. The definition's blurred. If I'm to choose between one evil and another... I'd rather not choose at all.

*claps*

Sure, he was a very specific case with early dementia or Alzheimer, right? But that's basically just a way of saying that it's not like money fixes everything. Even if I was rich I can still feel bad for seeing the misery in the world. I could even try to help where I can but there's no way to fix everything. If Bezos suddenly turned into a humanitarian and spent every cent on helping others, there would still be a few billion in misery.

He meant self-conscious regarding how you truly work. People rationalize decisions with madeup reasoning cause that feel more comfortable all the time. Those who are true to themselves and freely admit their true motivation are rare.

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Answer the call.
Every cell in your body is borrowed
Be of service to the universe

good = whatever helps me
evil =whatever is bad for me

there you go. That's also how most people operate although they cloud the real motivation behind bullshit to make it sell better to others.

Parenting and experiences mold the person.
I've been fucked over my entire life, but my dad was the best kind of dad I could imagine and he raised me to be somewhat wise.
I'd compare him to Bill from L4D.
It was always family first to him and all the bad things he did was for our benefit and he never did things out of malice or greed.

If you're born being mistreated all your life, you'll easily turn in to an asshole, but if you're born to some shitty nobility that taught you how you're so much better than commoners, you also turn in to an asshole.
The biggest variable is parenting, but sometimes you shit happens and the experiences change your alignment.
For example,
Moving to a subhuman neighborhood teaches you to be a racist.
Going through war makes you value life less
Seeing suffering makes you hate the world etc
Living in a "paradise" makes you in to a hippie.

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Maybe he now "has it good" exactly because he approached life with that attitude?

I live in east europe. Grew up in a shithole, dad makes 250 euro a month (plus meal tickets) as a guard, mom works in a supermarket. I haven't eaten anything in 16-18 hours.
Does that validate my opinion more than his? Are my problems bigger than those of a millionaire doctor who offered to do surgery on someone close to him and it ended in a failure? Bigger than those of a rich mayor who has to choose between helping his family and ridding his city of corruption?

Perhaps. You're still an idiot for thinking that just because you live in a warm house, you're not allowed to comment on the harshness and cold of the winter outside though.

this, basic observational statement

Lmao typical retard blaming everyone else

Neither, and that's what makes them dangerous.

If humans as a whole had a defining nature of being good or evil, they'd be easier to deal with.

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it's understandable that you would be upset about a wealthy person complaining if a lack of money is hindering your life. but even a wealthy person would probably still get upset when they see terminally ill kids in a hospital or animals being abused. it might even make them feel guiltier for having it so well comparatively while other people are suffering.

you're connected to every other person on earth by things too small to see

People in this board find any reason they can to seethe. He didn't cry about himself, he didn't say he had it bad or ask for pity or whatever else makes you fucks sperg out, he just said "this is what it looks like to me". First of all it's retarded to think that because someone has success in his work that he has to be happy, but it wasn't even directly about himself. For example he could think he's well set but see all the problems and people starving, dying and unhappiness and injustice and have a dark vision of the world itself even if he's well set.

The irony is also that everyone who posts in this thread is much richer and well off than starved African kids but they will bitch and moan about their problems all day.

You assume too much.
Yes, your problems are bigger because YOU don't get a choice
A rich mayor has options. He can step down, retire and enjoy life
A doctor that fucked up also had an option.

A poor person doesn't have the options, so by default their problems are the biggest.
You can argue that "poor guy should just study and become rich lol" but that's not always an option. Sometimes people need massive loans or sometimes they're just not gifted enough to do things that allow them wealth.
Sometimes they just can't leave, like a north korean for example.

I never said rich people don't have problems, I just said that they have it easier.

This guy said it the best Poor people have MORE problems and less or no options at all
Rich people have less problems and more options, except in cases where you just can't do anything, like an accident or illness, but once again, they do have options, such as living more healthily or paying to travel more safely.
Those are things that poor people have no say in.

Well he's a got a point. Everything runs by conflict, no matter how small it is. Otherwise, what's the point?

Even the Mario Universe is NOT exactly happy place, or the Kirby Universe even.

>You have to be one or the other to retarded extremes or it doesn't count
Does it matter? We want good and dislike evil, there's an atempt being made to be better regardless of nature

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Fuck this notion he is just a dumb fucking faggot if i had even 1 single game released that people over the world are talking about i could actually die happy
Hes just an entitled bitch

"I regret what I just did"
Choices made in anger cannot be undone

>Calls me a Christfag for implying that humanity is NOT special
>Has the gall to call anyone else retarded

I guess you're not human by your own standard since you don't seem to have any self-awareness

>"How dare that rich guy say the world is awful"
>"If he was poor he would know the world is actually awful"
You are complaining on the internet right now so you're living a better life than many, im sure those people are going to be very asshurt hearing you say that stuff when you are much more privileged and wealthy than them
What are you going to say to those people? That its not your fault for their current situation? Well it certainly wasn't Miyasaki's fault that you're a penniless dirtbag either buddy

Evil, all people are born with original sin which represents the maliciousness of man. Life is about redeeming yourself.

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I wish.
I will keep talking about myself that way. I will never be satisfied with myself.
But that is acceptable, because I will keep on trying to become better.

That
>Lol bro you're ultimately just doing it for your own ends bro don't you see?
bullshit is so weak and contrived and played out that I don't even register it any more when I hear it in person

You can't unspill blood

No matter how much you want it back

You dense motherfucker.

do you intentionally respond like a retard or are you actually retarded?
did you even read my comment?
I specifically said that it's always someone who has it good who whines about world being awful.
You know, the type of person who is least affected by the awfulness of the world.
He's right, the world is shit, but no one wants to hear a succesful faggot say it.

like this guy said the dude is as lucky as it gets,
Hell, I'd even go as far as to consider him the luckiest game dev in Japan right now.
He practically has it all, but still preaches how bad things are.
That's comparable to hearing a bird whine to a mouse how terrible flying is.

>the dude is as lucky as it gets
The fuck? He has genius level IQ and was a highly sought after talent. That's opposite of lucky.

>reaching success deletes every experience you've had in your life
If he experienced shit prior to succeeding, that doesn't mean that the shit he had no longer exists. He may not be doing badly now, but in that situation he can say with certainty, that in general, shit can get really fucking bad.

I don't get why everyone is waxing this to hell and back, when it's got nothing to with being rich or poor at the moment, it's a general statement that can very easily come from experience. If a homeless suddenly wins the lottery, will you discard him saying shit out there is real goddamn bad, just because at this very moment he's doing better?

>He's right, the world is shit, but no one wants to hear a succesful faggot say it.
Why not?

Bingo. The moral relativism shit is so gay, as if these douchebags don't 100% understand that if someone were to do something horrible to them that their tune would change instantly.

>It's alright mister, I understand that we each have our own subjective understanding of what is good and what is bad, so it's reasonable that you would feel that it's cool to have us chained up down here and make us eat out of the same bucket that we shit in

>I don't get why everyone is waxing this to hell and back
Its not, its just 1 dude

Because they have no reason to be sad and just wanna appear normal like us when they are anything but that same with notch being "depressed"
Most people are depressed because they dont have the freedom to change anything about it
If i was rich as fuck and feeling bad id just call up one of my friends or go into my pool and listen to music
Fuck these people

>implying being gifted isn't a privilege / luck
>implying being born in a country that allows your talents to blossom isn't a lucky thing
>implying you get to choose your parents
>implying you get to choose how your life plays out.
What "he does" isn't luck, of course, but what "he has" is.

>If a homeless suddenly wins the lottery, will you discard him saying shit out there is real goddamn bad, just because at this very moment he's doing better?
of course not, his experiences are not lostl, but my point is, that if a rich person "curses the world", it's kind of condescending towards the people who actually experience the "real world"
Like I said earlier, it's like having a bird complain to a mouse.
A poor and a rich person live in "different worlds"
Like a a prisoner and a guard.

I hate rich people who don't deserve their wealth as much as the next guy but saying that just because you have a big bank account that somehow invalidates misery in their life is fucking retarded. Unless they're straight up ruthless greedy psychopaths ala Patrick Bateman or something then being rich doesn't make you less human.

rich people have the resources and the professionals to help cope psychologically, emotionally and mentally with any problems that may arise so they have far more content leisurely lives

>but my point is, that if a rich person "curses the world", it's kind of condescending towards the people who actually experience the "real world"
But its obviously not the fucking case here so, why are you so angry?

>. The only way to get cash from goverment were im from is
What about being a single mother and having a child every few years? That's a steady stream of income in any first world country

Look i just hate rich people thats all if the money doesnt make them happy they should just give it to me because it sure as hell would make me happy and i certainly wouldnt bitch like that online

Don't get me wrong, Miyazaki deserves his wealth and success.
It's just that, while I don't know anything about his personal life, he still comes off as a person who has a very good and eventful life.
He lives in one of the best countries in the world, he gets to be creative, talented and smart, he has more money than what the people in this entire thread make in a lifetime.
This is the problem to me:
He may or may not have experienced misery, but his status is still allows him to not experience most misery that affect poor people.

There are humans who wake up every morning, worried they can't feed their children or keep their roofs or worse

and then you have humans who wake up every morning, eat a hearty breakfast, kiss their wives and drive to work on a 200k car while being greeted and loved by everyone, sit down on their throne and yell "THE WORLD SUCKS!"

based materialistic poster who hasnt seen through the veil

money, a wife, a nice car, being liked by people, man oh man i wish i could go back to the days where those things could make me forget about how bad things really are

Maybe he's not a self-centered piece of shit and realizes that life sucks for a lot of people even if it doesn't suck that much for him

>I was born the head of From
Youre galaxy size brain seems to think that he was born into the situation he is in now where people just pop into existence with no past or history if they are rich, what the fuck is that shit, is it really beyond some people comprehension that you can fucking climb to the top and dont just start there? Only the currently poor can suffer, is that it? He wasnt even head of From till a few years back for fuck sake.

Consider, you have a roof over your head and access to running water with electric and internet on demand, you cant experience suffering like a homeless person, so stop complaining when you have it bad, your suffering is irrelevant and you have no right to complain about anything because someone else is suffering more than you.

He was probably asked a question. It's not he went on twitter to complain about how hard his life is. Hell, he didn't even say HIS life was bad, simply that the way the world works can be very miserable.
Plus, like I said earlier in the thread, if he is a good CEO than he does have added pressure to help his employees since he's the one holding their livelihood. And misery simply hits us all.
I get the argument that rich people have poor people's problems + choices to fix them that poor people don't have. It's understandable, but if we make this into a contest then I'm sure some poor kid in the middle of a war zone being taught to be a child soldier has it worse than you or me.
I hate people like Bezos with a burning passion, someone like Bill Gates at least looks like he's trying to give back to the world, but just because I'm not at the lowest point of the food chain or at the highest, doesn't mean I can't say how I view the world. Specially if someone were to ask about it for an interview. What did you want him to say? He makes games that revolve around dying worlds. He can't exactly say he sees everything as sunshine and rainbows. You'd probably hate him just the same for seeing the world that way.
Sorry for the long post.

Life sucks even with money it is just that bad. You're still going to die. There are still things that can't be cured. Your loved ones will suffer and die. You can still fail on all kinds of personal levels. You could fuck up and even waste your fortune.

>He may or may not have experienced misery, but his status is still allows him to not experience most misery that affect poor people.
>And that bothers me
Well i don't agree with this "He should've checked his privilege before talking" attitude, if he had complained he had a hard life and started mentioning first world problems that would be him being disconected from the world, but he didn't, he made a broad statement about harsh reality pointing at nothing specific, your asshurt is your own problem not his

I don't hate the guy, I just find it funny whenever it's a guy with a perfect life who complains.

I know he was merely speaking about the world in general (history, his games and how his point of view fits in), but my original post was not directed specifically towards miyazaki but towards the stereotype of rich people being the ones who act like the world is such a shit place, when even a hungry ethiopan can find some meaning, joy and praise in life.

I mean, don't you also find it ironic and pretentious when it's coming from a man with everything?

Its like that for everybody
But money sure makes it alot easier

I get that, and I do think Miyazaki has earned his position in life, but we all experience love and hardship, just in different ways. Most people would agree that the way the world runs isn't good or at least, not the best.
At least someone like Miyazaki isn't so lost in fame and fortune that he's blind to the rest of the world. That'd be much more upsetting. You see a lot of celebrities like that. I think it's Gwyneth Paltrow, which I like as an actress, but apparently she's pretty much delusional when it comes to how people should run their lives because she seems to have forgotten not everyone can afford 24 hour nannies or something. Those kind of celebrities that are completely lost in their own world are much worse than the ones who at the very least acknowledge the issues the world has.

Not everyone starts life being rich you absolute mongoloid cretin.

>America
Sorry, I meant first world country.

I use to think all people were good by nature, but eventually you start to see that evil exists, its not necessarily wanton violence or killing people, its small acts, every day.
>know someone that moved to England, got married and is pretty well off, they are a building contractor or something to do with that, you see his facebook is plastered with different places around the world on holidays and such, his wife is the type to post photos of every fucking meal every day, god fucking damn
>their parents are getting old, the father has dementia and gets quite violent, you can hear him shouting from a few houses away
>rest of family are trying to contact the son, saying he should probably see his parents because they dont have much time left
>hasnt been seen for like 7 years
>son still doesnt come
>the son comes back to them out of nowhere, not to see them again, but because they are disputing his fucking claim for the mortgage he had secretly put on the house they were living, this cunt put a fucking mortgage on the parents house years and years ago and was waiting for them to die to claim it, it was only when it was dispited did he confront them directly about it
>guy calls the police on them during a confrontation, and when the police come they do nothing. The police observe and tell him to calm down. Apparently they asked the mother if she wanted to press charges for kicking the front door and she said no, she just wanted to talk
>the son refuses and leaves in his fucking sunroof sportscar and I havent seen him since
>the parents died earlier this year and the house was sold, he got his money
Evil exists, its it the acts of being a fucking cunt like this, like, it actually brings me down that people like this exist. Saw all this from my front window and only got the full story from his sister who was in the house with them as a carer at the time, she was scared shitless and never stepped in.

That's not how moral relativism or moral nihilism work. A moral nihilist still has a conscience and empathy that rules their actions - it's an intellectual stance not practical one. They can acknowledge that there is no objective quality of good or evil that can be attributed to actions while still finding actions distasteful.

"If you're a moral nihilist why not just kill and rape as much as you want?" - I do, which is zero. I don't want to rape or murder at all.

Also
>all these niggas going HURR BUT HIS LIFE IS GREAT STOP COMPLAINING
You don't need to have a shit life to see other people suffering and learn man's history and realize the world is a cold uncaring place where most suffer pointlessly.

I wouldn't really judge someone without knowing them. Sure, the guy looks like a cunt but for all you know the parents were cunts to him as a child and there's no love left between them. A friend of mine's father was physically violent towards him as a kid. We grew up, he managed to overcome his problems, life's good.
Then the father calls to say he has terminal cancer and when my friend's response is basically "good", the father tells as many people as he can how much of a cunt his son is.

What country was this? Presuming the parents stayed in his home country

Seeing inheritance disputes is some of the darkest and most pathetic parts of humanity I know.

I'm sad that my father didn't have a cent to his name that I could've inherited, but if he had "tens of thousands" of property / posessions, I would've hated to see the bitching and moaning of my "siblings" aka children from another marriage he had before me, and who he never saw again because the mom was a cunt.

None of them gave a shit about our father, but I know for a fact that those greedy harpies wouldn've come dashing for scraps if he had any sort of riches that could've been lawfully shared to them.

In a way, I'm glad he had nothing, I honestly would've probably murdered someone if they had shown up after 20+ years of never talking to the man, just to collect their "prize" for being related to him

>I mean, don't you also find it ironic and pretentious when it's coming from a man with everything?
No?

Do you find it ironic or pretentious that Keanu Reeves claimed that video games don't need hollywood celebrities to be legitimized?