Baldur's Gate Thread

if either of the dukes die it's a fail state and the game kills you automatically so that doesn't seem like a good idea

>shitconia
>faldorn
Doing a joke run?

Other than not having Xzar or Edwin it's a fairly standard evil party.

>joke

actually that druid's better at healing then the drow & I only picked her up because some random guy calling himself the flaming fist wanted her dead so I felt sorry for her & took her in the group

Fuck off, nerd.
One of the most egregious changes engine-wise is Baldur's Gate 2 pauses the game when you enter your inventory.

>not doing solo wizard
fags

Why is Xzar not in the party anyway?

You shouldn't use them to heal in the first place

>some random guy calling himself the flaming fist
phlaming phist are the police of nashkel and the country south (called amn, baldur's gate 2's setting).

Stop posting, faggot. OP, keep roleplaying and having fun.

Summoner staves. Fill the room with hobgoblins.

he exploded into human meat right after fighting an orgre mage in staff combat,in hindsight sending in your mage as a front line fighter is a really really bad idea where death can be fatal

Kill yourself retard

Reminder that you are going to be a faggot and play BG with BG2's engine, at least do it right and install BGT instead of touching that festering pile of aids known as the Enhanced Edition.

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Zoom zoom, loser. You don't know what roleplaying is.

If you horded your wands, use them: horror, paralyze, even sleep can be useful. Your druid can summon animals to distract others, while your warriors take care of the stragglers.

Keep roleplaying a retard in a game that doesn't acknowledge it then

>muh fallout
>muh arcanum
Again, stop posting.

Im going to play ee

No

>implying the originals aren't perfectly playable

I've not seen a single bug yet

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because the enhanced edition introduced almost all of them

I want to play BG1 vanilla but I can't find a comfortable resolution for my fuckhuge monitor. It's either too small or too fucking huge and pixelated.

based

>fuckhuge monitor
Found your problem.

>it's a game decides to shit out 20 black talons episode

Yeah no shit. I don't have room for a decent CRT or anything right now.

such as?

>muh 600 gorillion bug at release

How big is your monitor?

Beamdog is a guilty of a number of different crimes. Here are the major ones.

1. The Enhanced Editions are essentially a collection of free mods that had existed for nearly twenty years. Beamdog gathered them all up, slapped "Enhanced Edition" on it and resold it as a new product. There's very very little in the Enhanced Editions that wasn't already out there, and most of it is stuff you don't want (like obnoxious character outlines).

2. The games didn't sell so well and the originals were still far outselling them, even twenty years after their release, so Beamdog had EVERY digital distributor stop selling the originals and ONLY sell the Enhanced Edition. If you want to buy a digital copy of the originals now, they're "bundled" into the Enhanced Edition. Now these scumbags can claim sales from people just wanting to buy the originals as their own.

3. The infamous 600+ bugs on launch. The game is still riddled with bugs (as even a perfunctory glance over their forums show) but the fact that it took nearly two years for them to get a game that had been working fine for 20 years to reach playability after launch is telling of their wild incompetence.

4. This is where we get to the ones that really piss people off. Beamdog couldn't just remaster the game, they had to fuck with the content too. New dialogue for existing NPCs like Jaheira, Viconia, Safana, Kivan, et cetera was written in to make the characters more progressive and leftist friendly. Beamdog shills will argue that "adding content isn't changing content XDDD" but it is when the new content changes the core personalities of the existing characters. This is in addition to adding a slew of their own LGBT (hitherto there were none in Baldur's Gate) NPCs, all flooded with OP attributes and magic items to encourage people to play them despite their cancer.

5. Siege of motherfucking Dragonspear.

just...yikes

again, list some

BG1EE sucks.
Based beammutt pasta poster

don't need a crt guy, but you wanna play old games accept old resolutions.

I fucking hate the romances in BG2, but they're a result of Bioware realizing that people cared about the party members in 1 that they meant to be disposable and expanding on them. Then those newly expanded NPCs turned out to be a major selling point for people..

The dating sim bullshit actually helped save CRPGs.

That drow worships the primordial goddess of Evil, Darkness and Despair, who's ultimate goal is basically to destroy the world out of spite. That drow is a doomsday cultist basically.

>people cared about the party members in 1
not new. people cared about the party members in ultima. play 7 and talk to nastassia. bioware took this shit and ran with it as fast as they could. bg2, mass effect, dragon age. the latter two are practically porn. games for spergs without imaginations, which is the defining characteristic of the sperg.

>The dating sim bullshit actually helped save CRPGs.
profit doesn't equal quality

it's more accurate to say that bg revivified the crpg and bg2 set it on the path to degeneration.

I never said it did.

charm the strongest 2 or 3 with algernon's cloak

i remember that item basically breaking the game

>actually helped save CRPGs
so name me one since the early 2000's worth a damn. i'll give you underrail, which isn't a fucksimulator. dwarf fortress adventure mode? can you offer another?

Why bother? You're clearly one of those "everything is shit" type

and you're clearly a board warrior can't back up an argument. anonymity saves you again,.

Yeah, yeah, have your victory bro

scuttle away, straw man

just use strength potions on your melee it's how you win every fight in BG

It looks fine to me at 1280x960 which is 4x that of its native 640x480 resolution. Using DxWnd here for the job for both that and to resolve some visual hiccups on Windows 10.

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animal summons to glue them up.

>mass effect, dragon age are practically porn
I urge you to widen your horizon and actually watch porn.

How does LGBT even exist in a world of magic and bullshit? You'd just gender-bend yourself or some shit instead of being some ugly inbetween with a high suicide rate.

good point, but beamdog crammed it in there anyway. the difference is they did it according to a socio-political agenda. remember that edwin turns in to a woman in baldur's gate 2 and nobody cared except to have a laugh.
i urge you to read some literature and learn where video games fall on the spectrum of prose.

>ugh... why can't all crpgs just have parties full of of user-generated homunculi devoid of personality like the good old days? Story and character interaction in an RPG? That shit's for casuals. I demand minmaxing and autistic number crunching.

>ugh .. why can't all crpgs spoonfeed me prose because i have no imagination instead of requiring me to imagine and create for myself? my own characters? without computer guidance? what does that even mean?

Please provide sources where an average joe has access to funds/spells/items to provide said gender-bend.

There is no summon limit in first game. Just buy wand of monster summoning in Sorcerous Sundries

dilate, jannie

I'm sure it's easier in that world to get genderbent than it is to get the money for an operation RL without relying on some program/mental-stability tax.

Why don't you stare at a blank page and imagine you're playing a video game?

Oh shit! What do?

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i can. the difference between us is you can't.

Do you play tabletop with a full party of characters all by yourself moron? All the "imagination" in the world isn't going to make a bunch of paper dolls on a computer screen whacking at each other with minimal story and characters interesting. You can imagine the best characters in the world and it's not going to make a difference because all the OC in your head can't be injected into the game outside of meaningless user-written character profiles or some shit.

>play Berserker/mage
>spell immu, protect, stone skin, improve haste, tenser transformation
>literally solo everything

except i can accept what the game is feeding me and include that in a user-generated narrative. and you can't.

You're cute

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Don't argue with autists, the lack of capitalization is always a huge red flag

i only play games with dating sim bullshit and waifus, i'm a desperately lonely person and i demand you cater to me as such

Why do you type like a retard?

In I think one day's time you have to kill Qilue and bring his brain otherwise he reveals your secret, making the entire city hostile

There was a bug with one of the weapons, some axe that I forget the name of where the description was wrong and it didn't do what it said it would.
So I submitted a bug report and it got fixed.
There are definitely bugs but the game is absolutely playable.
Sadly they did ruin the journal though, but the spellbook/priest scroll systems are so much better that it's pretty worth it.
Siege of Dragonspear is unplayable trash though.
>linear
>boring fights
>trash story
>characters changing personalities for no reason
>railroad ending that makes absolutely no sense
>final fight is either a fucking nightmare or impossible to lose depending on your dialogue choice
They couldn't even get the same fucking voice actor for Dorn, I understand Jaheira's VA got fucking kidnapped and is locked in some dude's basement or dead but Dorn for fucks sake sounds really different.

Longest lasting spell lasts for 72 minutes if you get a lvl 30 mage to cast it on you. And I am sure the several thousand gold pieces it costs to get a custom magic ring forged is available to reach for the common man.

Go back to /pol/

>that part when Viconia keep insulting MC because she is embarrassed as fuck
Cute

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>Go back to /pol/
funny that in a fantasy world borne of human minds (pre-2000s), in which MAGIC is commonplace, women are more feminine and men more masculine than in this, the real world, in 2019. faggot.

I just massacre the whole city every playthrough LMAO

Then you better go live in that fantasy world if it is so much better than the real world.

>Longest lasting spell lasts for 72 minutes if you get a lvl 30 mage to cast it on you. And I am sure the several thousand gold pieces it costs to get a custom magic ring forged is available to reach for the common man.
The fuck are you talking about, spells can be permanent.
Also the belt of masculinity/femininity is only like 100-200 gold which a commoner could absolutely obtain if they tried.

He can just imagine living in it

i prefer to call a faggot a faggot, faggot. you can cut your cock off but you can never be a woman. only mentally ill.

>duration: 3d4 rounds + 2 rounds/lvl
>permanent

Also:
>cursed item
>unremovable belt
>it's easy to deal with in BG so it must be easy to deal with in actual Faerun

4, call that tsun tsun out for what it is

>play BG2
>enjoying it
>reach Underdark
>remember mindflayers
>exit game

BG3 will suck

Mind flayer lair is optional

The entirety of the underdark is basically optional.

give me fun weapons to use

I know, right? too bad he's just a fat austistic retard.

backstab with staffs

cant backstab with staves

Play the game

Beamdog hate aside, is Dragonspear worth a playthrough for someone who's RPG starved?

How bad are the OC characters? And the changes to existing ones?

Its encounter design is better with better AI too. Storywise it's not something I would replay personally

>Storywise it's not something I would replay personally
Why not? Was it just forgettable?

Yes. I personally disliked some of the choices they made with companions too, like some stuff Jaheira and Khalid do
Still if you're a combatfag I would play it at least once, it is not as bad as this place would tell you
Why can't I post

>duration: 3d4 rounds + 2 rounds/lvl
>permanent
>Permanency
>duration permanent
wow amazing
also cursed items aren't "unremovable" if you use a remove curse spell that's stronger than the curse
Why are you talking like you know shit when you have no idea about the setting at all

How much are you "rpg starved"?
Play literally any CRPG on the market and you will get a better deal

Use chaotic commands on your warriors + haste on ur dudez. They'll fall like gibberlings.

Don't romance any characters and it's fine. The battles can be very cheesy, though. Make sure to stock up on giant strength and heroism potions for the final battle.

Then whats the problem exactly? You can keep staring at your page and that user gets to play the game, win win.

>permanency
>The caster could make the following spells permanent when cast on him- or herself: arcane sight, comprehend languages, darkvision, detect magic, protection from arrows, read magic, see invisibility, and tongues
Please tell me which of those spells change gender.

>So I submitted a bug report and it got fixed.

If you're the same person you're unironically mentally disabled and need to seek professional help.

>I understand Jaheira's VA got fucking kidnapped and is locked in some dude's basement or dead
???

>play through BG1
>get to BG2
>encounter Neb
>apparently I'm supposed to know him from BG1, when you get thrown in prison
>I never got thrown in prison because I stormed the compound like a magical SWAT team
>never lost any rep either
>behead the faggot before he's even done summoning his pedo spirits, and bring his head to the council
>the inspector says he's sending a letter to the Flaming Fist to tell them they no longer need to worry about the murderer running free
feels good man

Aren't they just regular dopplegangers? Just use haste or something. You should be able to roll over them. If there's a greater one focus it and use dispel magic to get rid of its self buffs.

Fighter/Mage
Imoen
Minsc
Anomen
Edwin, replaced with Nalia if Minsc kills him
Recommend sixth member

>play BG2 for the first time
>encounter Neb
>OH SHIT ITS THAT GUY
>Jaheira and Minsc rush him on their own

Good stuff, really liked that part.

I'm playing BG2 right now and looking back on these fights makes me laugh. So many encounters without a mage CCing your party, and I thought they were difficult. I shat myself at the one werewolf that could only be harmed by silver, now every other encounter is some meme elemental or ghost that can only be harmed by a Cleric wielding +3 enchanted cockring between the hours of 6 and 7 PM on a Thursday. I was amazed at how many spells the one mage with contingency in the final fight used. Then a few hours into BG2 I run into a babby beholder and it microwaves my entire party with 17 death rays per round.
And I love it, I have more tools to fight them now and it feels challenging, this is what difficulty progression is supposed to be like bros

That kind of throwback redeems the amnesia bullshit a little bit. I get they had to do that in case the player skipped BG1 but man having a "WHO ARE YOU" option when imoen comes to break you out felt a little dumb.

Like all difficult encounters you can always just cheese it.

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Kill yourself faggot

How rude

Those beholders have machineguns blap blap blap

Each to their own
In hindsight I think I would've enjoyed my first runs more if the game did a better job at explaining immunities, removal of various status effects etc. Obviously it was a different time in 1998 and 2000 and tooltips have come a long way since then, but it frequently felt like you were doing yourself a disservice by not memorising the monster manual if you didn't already have prior experience with D&D

the virgin sight range cheeser
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>why yes, i do cast offensive spells on myself, how could you tell?

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>the lightning bolt didn't bounce more and killed half your team
Bullshit

Holy FUCK I think I was in the same location yesterday (playing the game for the first time)
>Walk down the stairs in some shitty ruined temple
>Three beholders immediately start frying and binding my party
>Overrun by some shadow fucks shortly after

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I unironically prefer video games because the role playing games I’ve had to suffer have characters who are far more devoid of personality than any game ever has. Even blank slate parties I can use my imagination and pretend.

Age of Decadence. Numenera. Dragonfall. There are many.

I'm still not sure how you kill them without the shield or cloak of reflection

>Even blank slate parties I can use my imagination and pretend.
I feel the same way. No story is better than a story done badly. I would much rather just have some randomly generated background for NPCs that I can swap at will than some boring crap.

Elementals are pretty good, maybe other summons too I can't remember. You have spell resistance spells as an arcane caster. As a paladin you might have good enough saves you can just auto attack them without worrying, depending on when you encounter them

Don't their ray dispel magic and insta-kill summons?

I find it amusing that Baldur's Gate has perfectly captured the feeling of playing as an overpowered demigod. No other game comes closer to the feeling of power you have as a kensai/mage, sorcerer or cleric/mage.

They have at will banish or whatever it is that dispels summons. At least they did when I last did the Temple of the Unseeing Eye.

Summons are still great against mindflayers though, especially the skeleton warriors with high magic resist you get from Animate Dead once you get to level 12 or so, I don't remember.

Mask of the Betrayer and Planescape Torment are two others.

I don't think all beholders cast dispel magic, maybe elder ones? Because when using the shield I usually cast DUHM if I'm using a cleric, and I'm pretty sure it stays active except for when I'm fighting like elder beholders
I'm not exactly sure about insta-kill summons part

>being this pleb
Faldorn is arguably the best NPC in BG1. She's the only caster who gets 5th level spells, and she has a unique ability to just Summon Dread Wolves. Meanwhile, Viconia comes with a 19 Dexterity and 50% Magic Resistance, making her head and shoulders over the next best tank.

loving my current bg2 playthrough, just finished up all the big major quests i think in act 2, i'm using based keldorn with carsomyr and it's amazing, so handy with the dispel.

this is my first time using SCS mod. ancient vampires are brutal, as are liches and even spirit trolls fked me up for a while. feeling strong now though, main char is a berserker/cleric, then i have a kensai/mage, a kensai/thief who sucks and a sorcerer, keldorn and jaheira. first time using jaheira roo, druids are awesome, fire elemental is op

I got my first taste of fucking myself over with lightning bolt in eye of the beholder 2. Prepared me for other dnd games, thats for sure

>a kensai/thief who sucks
>not using the cloak of non detection and getting kai x5 sneak attacks all day erryday

The tranny in the Baldur's Gate game is a Fighter 7 / Cleric 10 with about 8,000gp in gear alone. A Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity runs 200gp.

Yeah, the nest in the Underdark was one of the harder parts. I can't remember specifically how I beat them, but I think I had the most success blasting them with spells. And cross my fingers that none of my party gets petrified.

HUH TIME 'FER A BIT OF ROUGH N' TUMBLE

The main plot of BG and Durlag's Tower, with doppelgangers. Is it that easy for them to infiltrate a place without getting noticed? Why don't they do it more often?

You wouldn't use a Permanency spell to change gender. The Permanency spell is to keep beneficial ongoing magical effects permanent. Like seeing magical auras, an invisible nimbus blocking arrows, etc. A change like gender swapping would be a standard Transmutation one-and-done, like Baleful Polymorph, Flesh to Stone, Transmute Rock to Mud, Stone Shape, etc. But probably lower level than most of those since it doesn't involve changing type or subtype and isn't inherently lethal.

Can't you just detect evil them?

Shit, it finally happened. Took way longer than I thought too, usually I end up screwing it up before Bodhi.

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>Dwarven Spellcasters
Unless my axe casts "detect evil" not likely.

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>Dwarven Spellcasters
Yes?

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Kagain killed him for being an embarrassment to Dwarvenkind.

>he doesnt spam inns with stink cload
fucking brapppplets

What about the ditties?

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>dragon didnt die from his lightning
inaccurate

did you get the anti doppleganger sword from Cloakwood?
any fighter should tear through them with it and a haste spell

i have the cloak, do i just just use improved invisibility? i tried backstabbing firkraag but it didn't work. liches sense me and cast dispel magic. idk i'll try again tomorrow. i'd rather have a fighter thief right now though, at least i wouldn't be so damn squishy. also i went 5 points into daggers but haven't found a very good dagger yet

man i fucking miss when lightning bolt bounced off walls
it's fucking garbage in 5e, poor mans fireball

High level enemies are immune to backstabs and that squishiness should go away once you get use all items ability. One of the good daggers were in Underdark IIRC and you can have Cromwell improve it too but I'm not sure about that
Daggers aren't that great in general though

The cloak doesn't work with invisibility and spells, you can get seen by true sight even with the cloak because true sight is a sort of dispelling effect. However, a thief or ranger's hiding skill can't be dispelled, so the cloak works for that. For absolute stealth you need a high hide/move silently skill and the cloak. It's more useful for a thief than a mage.

yes, they can read minds and im pretty sure they can hide their alignment but i dont remember for sure