Next Gen LMAO

cause they have to make the hardware affordable to lure you in to fuck you over with paid online and games that cost twice as much

I'd assume so since DS5 will have a screen in it.

those mockups look chinese knockoff tier, this pic has to be total conjecture

Will a rx 580 and a ryzen 5 2600 run next gen games? i dont want to upgrade

at least the ps5 movies aren't just on PC

Halo Infinite will be on Xbone too

Reminder that consoles destroyed the FPS and first-person action genre beyond repair.

PS5 will get FF7R and probably the next KH game.

Scarlett won't get it.

it probably will run them fine just dont max out the settings or anything

well most video games are made with console hardware limitations in mind, which often carry over to the PC versions. When the consoles get a power bump, the PC versions will ultimately look better and have better technology too

Both will be 8-10 TF.

based i just retreat to replaying quake and indies to get my fill

No reason to own either. I'm set with my Switch/PC combo.

Then they get shat out on PC because devs are fucking lazy and the games run like shit anyways. Fuck I STILL can't play Darksiders 2 on ANY hardware because of how poorly ported it is.

>t.seething boomer

>Buy everything you need for a modern gaming PC
>700 - 1200 bucks
>wait for steam sale
>play free to play games like MMOs in the meantime
>100 - 200 dollars for accessories like mic, better keyboard, Fightsticks, and Pro controller
>monitor and frame rate options

>PS5
>499.99
>Need a 4K @ $499.99
>Doesn't support dual monitors or ultrawide
>locked 60fps
>59.99 a year for online gaming
>59.99 per game
>100 - 200 for accessories like Fightsticks or Pro controller
considering your average PS4 owner buys like 4 -10 new games a year the cost is even higher.

He's right though

well hes very correct

FPS games don't only have to be arena shooters

Daily reminder to laugh at a console cuck.

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- 200 for accessories like Fightsticks or Pro controller
Why would PS5 have a pro controller?

For me, it's the project SCARLETT

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This is bait right?

>monitors are free with PC
>actually suggesting somebody use ultrawide
>60fps locked is bad
yikes is all I can say

They exist for PS4.

I wonder how a DS5 controller will work with a screen.

Then again that's assuming the next gen Playstation is even called a PS5 since that's not what Sony's calling it.

Can't they just use the PS5 controller to play PS4 games

I guarantee you the moment a console support ultrawide monitors you consolefags are gonna shill the fuck out of it.

because whether you like it or not it's consoles that determine the rate of progression in games, both technologically and graphically. Because consoles are a significantly larger effective market (PCs are bigger in theory but absolutely not in practice), so developers put their focus and attention on them first and foremost.

So consoles getting new hardware means the entire hobby moves forward.

Maybe others will be I'll never. 16:9 is where it's at

they dont but aim assist,no skill trash isnt good,i do prefer arenas but i just want a shooter that takes skill,and im gonna be honest its pretty scant when controllers always need to be accounted for.

Not him but literally no one would do this.

Of course. Accessories are OPTIONAL and can't be taken into account for everyone. Depends on your budget.

git gud pc cuck

tvs are free with consoles

This is flat out delusion. Console market is shrinking.

>60fps locked is bad
I remember a decade ago when you faggots were saying shit like "uhhh actually 30fps is just fine 60 is just a meme"
Why are you all so willing to cuck yourself so hard into pretending that FPS doesn't matter?

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people thinking these are gonna have a 20 of any kind in them are fucking crazy
you will be lucky to get the equivalent of a 1070

modern shooters make it so im always good and it annoys me that its so easy

That's assuming the next gen PS controller will look like the DS4.

Though you could use the Sixaxis controller to play PS2 games.

There's a PS4 shill who got famous because he makes Horizon and Nier Automata webms that appear as if they are playing on an ultrawide 21:9 monitor. Even Yea Forums used to shill the crap out of those webms.

He's absolutely right you brainlet. Consoles wont go absolute until streaming is good enough to dominate.

I have an ultrawide and will never go back to 16:9. I'm a firm believer ultrawide will be mainstream one day.

it's shrinking, and still 4-5x bigger than all PC distribution avenues combined (Though of course, that excludes stuff like bigfishgames, and facebook games. If you want to include those as the pinnacle of PC gaming though, feel free.

What? Sauce user? First I'm hearing of this

Delusional retard. Consoles are dying with Stadia and PC going to murder them

PC gaming is steadily increasing

>scarlet
>color green

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Why do retards on Yea Forums think consoles are going to be on the same tier as gaming PCs?

Keep dreamin bitch boy

You don't think it will actually be scarlet color right?

steam has 90 million active users and at some moments that have up to 15 million users online at the same time.

People who claim to hate ultrawide never owned an ultrawide monitor. Once you play a game that at 21:9 there's no going back, especially if it's a beautiful MMO or a racing game. Some FPS too.

Can't wait to play Cyberpunk 2077 at 21:9

>The PS5 and XScar are gonna be between the RTX 2070 and the 2080 ,MAYBE
Nope, the RX 5700 XT is around there and it's miles better than the sub-RX 5700 GPUs that'll be in next gen consoles.
Next gen may end up being 1070/1660Ti tier.

These are the same guys who thought a PS4 was stronger than a PC back in 2013

>Next gen may end up being 1070/1660Ti tier.
This is literally delusions. PS5/Scarlett won't even be CLOSE to this level of power.

I'm confident it'll be GTX 1080 or GTX 1070 ti at minimum based on the leaks

You are going to be disappointed user

it kind of has to be. the xbone x is already 1060 tier. if they can't at least equal a 1080 then what the fuck is the point?

>then what the fuck is the point?
THERE ISN'T ONE
THAT'S THE POINT
IT'S L I T E R A L L Y INFERIOR HARDWARE

This. It's going to be 1060 tier

>the xbone x is already 1060 tier.
You don't possibly believe this right?

We can already guess what chip is going into them. A "custom" version of the RX 5700 AMD just announced. It'll be downclocked slightly to keep temps and power in line and be a little bit weaker than an Nvidia 2060.

Well no matter what I'm waiting a year and a half like normal before getting one.

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it is though. the gpu is essentially a modified rx 580, which roughly equals a 1060

Be smart and upgrade your PC instead

It's lower than a 1060 though

But they also confirmed raytracing support so I'm think at best it's gonna be RTX 2060 or slightly lower than the 2060. And at $399 - $499+tax+game+subscription+4KTV out the gate that's expensive. It would be dumb to have hardware on par with a RTX 2060 all while playing on a monitor that only supports 1080p 60hz. In fact there isn't a single HDTV on the store market that supports a refresh rate higher than 60hz. You literally have to go to the Bestbuy black market to get your hands on a HDTV that 1440p or higher and 100 - 120hz. And it gonna be expensive.

source

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Above 60 does not matter
t. bought 144hz screen, tried it, didn't notice any difference and returned it

>But they also confirmed raytracing support
Which is kind of meaningless since technically any GPU supports raytracing.
I can raytrace on an original Titan, doesn't mean it's going to be playable.
And AMD has no hardware-level RT in the pipeline, so I doubt they'll be using that, nevermind the fact that that'd take up precious die-space, something that they don't have tons to spare.

I gotta get a new card and Windows 10 for the games pass, probably the better decision than a new console

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Why are you actually believing it's equal to a 1060?

please don't tell me you forgot to switch the thing to 144hz when you got it

This is the first time a console is using ray tracing though.

That is definitely the better decision. There's no reason to buy a Scarlett

>LOL MY $800 GPU KICKS A $600 CONSOLE'S ASS

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the only reason for a high end gaming pc is to play the latest ubisoft port at high settings

thats pretty stupid when i can play it at higher settings optimized for the console it was originally designed for

How is Game pass PC?

Because it largely is.
Much like with the desktop RX 580, it trades blows.
That's meaningless if it's not playable.
The PS4 could theoretically run raytraced content if you hack it and install something like Brigade or Blender, so it's not even the first time a console has supported raytracing.
This'll also be the first time a console can technically support 8k since it'll have HDMI 2.0, but nothing will actually be playable at 8k outside of indie games.
Consolefags are kind of like dumb toasterfags in that they fall for every single meaningless marketing gimmick ever.
Like the retards who think if a GPU doesn't have a big "VR ready" sticker on the box then that means they won't be able to play VR games on it.

Even a $350 RTX 2060 will be outperforming these consoles m8.

Yeah, I'm gay, faggot Reddit memes. Go fuck yourselves. Also enjoy partaking in the ultimate cuckoldry by buying another console in 4 years while my custom PC is still kicking ass.

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PCfags are so fucking stupid.

I'm not THAT dumb

you can literally afford to be stupid when you're not some console poorfag

Not as stupid as consolefags.
It's almost staggering how dumb the average consolefag Yea Forumsirgin is.
Which is pretty insane considering the average PCfag Yea Forumsirgin is borderline retarded.

Stay mad when my PS5/Scarlett ends up crushing your mom's PC.

I look forward to laughing when it ends up being a cut down RX 5700, just like I laughed in 2013 when the PS4 was a cut down HD 7870 with 2 extra ACE units.

1440p monitor or 4k if you plan oin getting a 2080

stay mad when the ps5 and scarlet come out almost already feeling out dated,just like last gen consoles

It's going to be a stock RX 1080

>rx 1080
PFFF

Yeah that's not going to happen. It will crush your PC.

This is fucking mediocre

Prove me wrong

Halo really is the only thing Xbox has huh?

the PC equivalent will have already come out before the next gen consoles even release.

Hey user, I found your picture.

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i'm so tired of you mentally deficients

Consoles are for rubes and dumb brown people. Even Slavs are smart enough to build a cheap PC.

Stadia is DOA

i was laughing cause there is no rx 1080 theres a GTX 1080 and an RX 2080,you not even being able to get the cards right proves you have no idea of what you are talking about.

No it's not.

Stay mad when your PC is rendered obsolete next year .

Yea, just like it was rendered obsolete when the PS4 released.
Oh wait...

I meant that it would be on par with a stock 1080

/thread
fpbp

PS5 is getting the next uncharted games, the next last of us games, gran turismo, the persona series, bloodborne sequel

That was different you retard

It won't even be that sadly.
With Navi's current TDPs and die sizes, unless they plan on making the PS5/Nextbox $800+ behemoths with giant fans/expensive vapor chamber cooling, they'll likely be using a cut down underclocked RX 5700, a GPU that competes with an RTX 2060, meaning that they'd likely perform around the level of a GTX 1070.
You're an idiot, don't @ me again.

i wouldnt hold my breath at all but its possible

stay mad with almost always obsolete hardware

>Xbox One X is 6tf
>Next consoles will be 8tf
>Somehow it's not mediocre

>100 - 200 dollars for accessories like mic, better keyboard, Fightsticks, and Pro controller
Lame shit lmao. Only nerds play games with that shit.
>monitor and frame rate options
Humans can only see in 60fps anyways.

>PS5
>Doesn't support dual monitors or ultrawide
More nerd shit. I'm just plugging the shit in the big TV.
>locked 60fps
Who cares.
>59.99 a year for online gaming
Only if you don't wait for a deal, and you get free games.
>59.99 per game
Only if you buy at release
>100 - 200 for accessories like Fightsticks or Pro controller
Only losers do this shit

White people trying to act like they aren't losers by posting this kind of gay shit is always cringeworthy as fuck.

>the persona series
No it isn't

He isn't a PS4 shill. I assume he is talking about sunhilegend on twitter who makes webm's of games in general. Yea Forums just got wholly and endlessly assblasted over how good his horizon zero dawn webms looked. They even ignore the fact that he did monhun, sekiro, dmcv, assassins creed, nier, and a shitton of other games for his twitter gifs.

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I still believe that they have a special sauce that will make it possible correct them to compete with an 1080

>Humans can only see in 60fps anyways.
You "people" were saying the same thing about 30 FPS a decade ago. At least just admit you can't see a big enough difference and spare us your stupidity.

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Nice headcanon

It's really not. You don't know how TFs work.

Both games are coming to Xbox, but the real question is how long.

Mmm no, this gen the issue was that Nvidia's Kepler line was shit and GCN actually aged well, hence why an HD 7870 still largely outperforms a PS4.
The same could happen this gen, who knows, but I have little to not faith in AMD when it comes to providing good GPU hardware.

None of them are coming to Scarlett.

current gen hardware (2080, 2080ti) is only used to play ports of games designed for a mid range 2013 computer.
If anything PC bros are going to need to upgrade when the next gen consoles come out because of the high speed SSD's they're putting in them. Both MS and Sony are using small extremely high speed SSD's as virtual ram, and that setup doesn't exist on the PC side. PC fags will probably need to buy a bunch of ram and high speed m2 drives just so they can play their console ports.

I understand your skepticism but I still believe AMD will make it work.

>Play FF7R first on PS4
Also Xbox already got KH3, its getting the next KH too.

its true,its been true for many years,consoles have lost all value and are shells of the greatness console gaming used to be.

>Xbox Scarlet
>Xbox brand color is green

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>and that setup doesn't exist on the PC side
It's actually been around since the mid-90s, mainly in laptops.
Unfortunately, it's shit and isn't utilized because it's extremely inefficient for the most part.
But, as is the case with all consolefags, the secret sauce marketing is too strong.

It's not getting either. Stay cucked Xbot

fpbp
stay mad pc virgin

They should have called it Jade or Emerald or something.

>XBOX WILL NEVER GET FF
>Xbone has get FF13 troilgy in 4k while PS4 gets nothing
>XBOX WILL NEVER GET KH
>Xbox has the best version of KH3
Stay cucked, snoyigger

>I have no clue what I'm talking about but after hearing all these fancy terms from journalists and tech demo videos this product is clearly superior

page files have existed, but not an SSD drive dedicated by the OS to being used as virtual ram.

"Virtual RAM" has been around literally since before you were born, it's called a page file.
How are you this retarded?
You dumb nigger, a page file is LITERALLY drive space being dedicated by the OS to be used as virtual "RAM."
Again, how are you THIS retarded?

The ps4 gpu is a 750ti and look how much they could have squeezed out it

you know I'm right. Games are going to be designed around having this hardware in the future, and it's going to mean you'll need the equivalent on the PC.

You wish PCclbri

It's just a codename.

Console:
>Buy once for ~$400
>Play for 7 years
>Games are made for specific hardware in mind, no need to replace anything until next gen (unless you break anything like a tard)

PC:
>Buy parts that add up to ~$1000
>Have to replace parts every 2 years just to keep up with current gen games

>delusional
Can't wait till you get BTFO when you get neither Xcuck

>Have to replace parts every 2 years just to keep up with current gen games
Imagine actually believing this
haha
good thing nobody here is THAT retarded
right?

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The PS4 GPU is LITERALLY an HD 7870 with 2 extra ACE units, which shits on a 750 Ti.

>Can't wait
I hope so, because it would be another 10 years until a new KH and FF7R are completed

there's clearly a difference between the OS writing your data to a file on the HD when it runs out of ram, and having a super fast dedicated chip built into the hardware that's designed to only do that.

Stop pretending that you're not going to own a PC/PS5/whatever Nintendo's next console is

I look forward to dev times doubling again.

i actually wish consoles where good

Maybe others will be I'll never. 30fps is where it's at

An SSD is not a "super fast dedicated chip built into the hardware."
If you don't know anything about technology why are you talking about it?
Just shut up and learn how to use Google so you can understand why this stuff is obviously bullshit.

console
>buy once for ~400
>buy 10 games a year for ~600
>adds up to 4600 over 7 years

PC:
>buy once for ~2000
>get all games for free
>replace parts in 5-6 years
Mid range pcs are for dumb retards who would've bought console anyway. You go top tier and pc can last you for years. Just like there are still people using their oced 2600k after 8 years and play all AAA games in over 60fps

It's bottlenecked by the shitty laptop cpu. At the start of the generation everyone was showing off cheap 750ti builds that shit on the ps4 and xbone.

More like you're coping that your Scarlett trash won't get either game while my PS5 will.

>It's bottlenecked by the shitty laptop cpu.
Depends on the game, in a more GPU-bound scenario it'll outperform the GTX 750 Ti since the HD 7870 is just a flat out faster GPU.

>won't get either game while my PS5 will.
>implying it wouldnt be on the PS6

what? at most a console level PC is 500 and you dont need to upgrade every 2 years,you CAN upgrade but you never have to cause it runs games fine also you dont have to pay for more expensive games and online.

Nintendo will ride with the Switch for good amount of years. They'll just use revisions.

Cope. Scarlett will be as game barren as Xbone

I hope so. The Switch's hardware is trash but all that really matters is access to exclusives. Which is why everyone here pretending that they're going to buy a console based off it's specs should stop

ok then, instead of being an arrogant ass tell me why i'm wrong.

I did some google and AMD's been putting this same technology in their workstation graphics cards. Tell me why this is the same things as a page file.
amd.com/en/products/professional-graphics/radeon-pro-ssg

>Have over 500 games on my Xbone
>Will all be playable along with Halo Infinite on day one for Scarlett
I'll live.

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WE'RE TALKING
NEVER BEFORE SEEN
FRAME RATE

120 FPS

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>AMD

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Switch's hardware is great. You're retarded

Honestly i might buy in with infinite at launch.

I sure do love playing five year old games at half the resolution and framerate

Why you lying?

>ok then, instead of being an arrogant ass tell me
Because you obviously don't know anything about the bare minimum basics of what an SSD is and how it works.
>I did some google and AMD's been putting this same technology in their workstation graphics cards.
No they haven't, did you even read what you just linked?
Do you know what a GPU is?
Do you know how it differs from an SSD?
youtu.be/Zd4xXyjT6mE?t=592
Again, if you don't know shit about hardware, stop talking about it.

>great hardware
PFFF consoles have bad hardware but switch hardware is at a different level of bad.

>t.seething novidya cuck who's realizing his shit is going to be obsolete in a year

Nice meme shitposter-kun

Samefagging again? Still mad you have no games on your PC while I have a lot on my Switch?

Regardless of what gen hardware they use, they both will likely be about as uninteresting as the current consoles are. I can't think of a single game this gen that has made me interested in buying a new console.

There's no games on PC

- 1200 bucks

That's fucking bullshit, that's what the higher cards by themselves cost nowadays.

Next gen is gonna be 2080/Radeon 7 tier, a pc today will cost $2k to keep up. Stop misleading people.

what? i own a switch and love it,dipshit but talking about its hardware is autistic at best

Keep seething pc cuck you're spending more to play the few shitty AAA games that can even make use of a really good rig. Most worthwhile PC games can be played on a toaster these days. Consoles have more populated multiplayer games and actual quality exclusives as well.

Why are you poor?

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Because I don't care about PC like millions of other gamers.

>>saying this when I have some 400+games on my steam account and another 200+games on GOG.
Do you like saying easily disproved things?

>Next gen is gonna be 2080/Radeon 7 tier
No it's not.
see
It is physically impossible for MS/Sony to release any console with anything higher than an RX 5700 (which is an RTX 2060 equivalent) due to the limited die space in a console, limited power envelope, and need to maintain a small enough form factor.
Unless of course they want to spend tons of money on vapor chamber cooling and release $600+ consoles.

ill say this for the second time,I LOVE MY SWTICH
just i think that its hardware isnt good.

Plus portablility. Even if the games are downgraded visually from their original counterparts, as long as it isn't completely garbage and runs fine, it'll last for a while.

The hardware's not dogshit, but it's not as good as its competitors.

Ok.. still gonna buy the new xbox tho pcfag

>Consoles have more populated multiplayer games
Oh boy, I can't wait to get banned from the console online that I pay for for calling someone a faggot.
Nah, miss me with that gay shit.

halo forza and gears

this will be the third generation of the same fucking games

>t. seething M$cuck

You're not getting games on PC

Nice lie

console cvcks have always been children
no money and like to play with cheap plastic toy boxes

No doubt but games you enjoy that can't be played elsewhere trump better hardware or Nintendo wouldn't be successful at all.

Millions of other gamers also don't care about consoles and will stick to their phones and streaming.

Almost like it's a portable or something

Says the guy who throws money to valve and cries over epic games store I assume

Nice cherry picked hypothetical faggot. You can get banned for that on PC as well.

i am like recently just a few hours ago i bought DUSK cause i need my arena shooter fill

Actually not poor people like myself buy both. Except xbone and ps4 have no intrestinf exclusives so i never bought them

>when the hardware used inside every single console has always been current or last generation hardware?

consoles get about 2.5x as much out of equivalent hardware due to coding to metal and no variability/driver overhead/etc

2019, and people still think a PC with hardware equivalent in power to consoles mean that PC will perform just as well as the console.
It means jack shit, even if a PS4 has a GTX 960 equivalent GPU, just because you buy a GTX 960 doesn't mean games will run just as well on your shitbox.

Kek, literally just got done calling people faggots in Mordhau, didn't get banned.
Meanwhile, consoleniggers get banned for misgendering people.

>Plus portability
I mentioned that. It's not like I'm shitting on the Switch, I have one myself.

yeah it does trump better hardware but the games wherent my point.

Wow you got away one time with calling someone a faggot in one specific game? Nice dude. Consoles btfo.

>I can't wait to get banned from the console online that I pay for for calling someone a faggot.

just don't call someone a fag, it's not that hard user.

The PS4 has an HD 7870 equivalent and literally performs pretty much exactly the same as an HD 7870 in 90% of games (with some performing better on the 7870 due to the shit CPU in the PS4).
I don't get why retards keep trying to compare the PS4 to Nvidia GPus instead of the AMD GPU that is LITERALLY used in the PS4 and has been available for purchase on the market since 2012 (not anymore though, since it's been out of production for about half a decade now).

Which sucks on PC

>one time
Kek, I do it literally every time I play the game.
I also call people niggers, just like I do in Rising Storm 2, Natural Selection 2, Killing Floor 2, Day of Infamy, and even Insurgency.
No one cares, and most will talk shit back, because they understand that it's part of what makes multiplayer gaming worth playing.
If you play multiplayer games so you DON'T have to socialize or talk to anyone then you're a fucking moron.
Thankfully, I don't play consolenigger trash, so I don't have to worry about getting banned.
Nah, I'll do what I please, thanks.

what makes it suck?
especially when you say specifically PC

>I do what I want mommy! I say naughty words!
kek

Plenty of people get away with that on console nice strawman. Real edgy as well dude what are you 14?

If you want top of the line 120+ fps 4k super water cooled system blah blah blah then sure. But that's literally the 1% of the PC gamer market. Stop watching shit like LinusTechTips nigga. Real PC gamers will spend big on maybe 2 things. 1 being the graphics card and the other being the monitor or accessories for editing or some shit.

>Plenty of people get away with that on console
Not anymore they won't, MS and Sony will make sure to monitor what you say and ban anyone who has the nerve to be mean on the internet.

Ps4 runs 1080p 30fps just like a 960 does now. My 2060 does ultra 1080p 144gz in aaa new games

good for you user

- 1200 bucks pc
if your pc isn't at least 2000 bucks minimum, chances are there is a console in development or currently exists that WILL give you a similar experience to that of a "budget" 1200 gaming pc where you're paying a premium for "the latest gaming hardware" (even though it's all entry level shit).

and that's just the rig alone. i would literally not enjoy playing on PC if the entire set up, including monitor and peripherals, didn't add up to at least 3000 dollars.

and before a poorfag who has never experience playing on a high end gaming setup in their life, yes the difference and improvement is that fucking drastic.

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Sure bud and I guess if that's the case not all of us will be able to freely act as cool as you do in games

Wow guys look how cool Skyrim looks on my $3000 pc!

Yep, console online will continue to be an asocial mess of people in their own little parties not interacting with anyone else in the game.
Like it's been since 2009.
It's why I don't waste money on them.

I cringed over dropping 350 on a gpu but felt fine buying a 1tb nvme for 350. Not sure why. I guess i think the nvme will last longer

I wish some games forced you to go into game chat like how cod used to do in certain game modes

>complains console online is asocial
>complains he can't be asocial
????????????????

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>If you want top of the line 120+ fps 4k super water cooled system blah blah blah then sure.

let me rephrase that for you

>if you want your experience on a gaming PC worthwhile and profoundly beyond that of current and future generations of consoles.

if you disagree with that idea even remotely, then what the fuck is the point of paying the premium for pc parts?

>inb4 muh all-in-one workstation
if you truly needed and can afford a workstation, odds are you'd have high end parts just to do non-gaming related tasks alone.

>Calling someone a faggot = being asocial
You must be a white kid.

>I guess i think the nvme will last longer
That's because it will.
I still have a 750 GB HDD in my PC that I've been using since 2009.

>dogshit - high mid tier hardware = entry level
>topshelf "enthusiast" hardware = normal level
your brain on intel/nvidia propaganda. you nu-pcfags are so insufferable.

Really what do PCfags hope to accomplish?
Is this an attempt at sayings "consoles hold PC back!" or just to shit on console fags?
I don't get it anymore.

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Socialization is still plentiful on console in games that need it. Even if they don't want to talk to your edgy bitch ass doesn't mean they aren't communicating with other people. Nice work moving the goal posts as well.

OP is a retard that has already been btfo. PCfags will always be the worst shitposters though.

Not really, most voice chat on public console games is dead outside of honkeys taking hits from their bongs, niggers yelling at their SOs with dogs barking in the background, and little spic kids squeaking it up while their parents argue in the background.
Again, most people just use party chat, I can't even remember the last time I've seen or played an online console game where the server feels like a nice community akin to socializing in a virtual bar while you play some games.
It's literally almost nothing but dead air and the occasional retard raging over the mic because they suck, if not the things I just mentioned.

I've encountered plenty of that shit on PC as well. Possibly even more.

That's online in general.

im here so console players will demand better (i did grow up on consoles after all),so i compare it to what PC has and it has almost always had.

Not really, pretty much any online PC game with dedicated servers is going to have people constantly talking in chat, shooting the shit, or just talking shit to one another.
The only ones that have this problem are consoleshit games like Rainbow Six Siege.
Hell, just look at how FiveM blew up almost entirely on RP servers where people do nothing but interact with one another.

Pc has been more powerful than consoles since forever so yeah

You're talking out your ass man I play just as many multiplayer games on PC as console and you're just absolutely bias.

What games do you play?
I can guarantee that it's mainly consoleshit.

So you're projecting on all multiplayer games that happen to be available on console based off cherry picked experiences on specific games? Again, nice goal post moving faggot.

You didn't answer my question, what online multiplayer games do you play on your PC?

building PCs has always been an enthusiast hobby, you stupid nigger.

liquid loops in cases with shit cable management before the RGB and tempered glass craze to maintain optimal temps have always been a thing, you absolute mongrel.

It's ALWAYS been an enthusiast hobby where the highest end parts were most desired and sought after.

companies realized casual kiddies wanted to play counter strike and half life too, therefore the creation of entry/"mid high tier" (lol) parts.

budget "gaming PCs" are literal nu-pcfag shit.

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People this based don't actually exist, what are you plotting?

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>naming our next gen flagship console after a tranny

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>building PCs has always been an enthusiast hobby, you stupid nigger.
then why was the most popular choice of pc build by far in 2011 i5 2500k + 560ti. performance per dollar was the king, not buying overly expensive shit like consoletards do.

Never heard of a tranny named 5.

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