Was it that bad

Was it that bad

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Well, it wasn't that good and totally forgettable.

No, but when you factor in the expectations levied at it after KH2 came out, all the spin-offs we were forced to eat up in the waiting time, and also that is was the finale of Sora's convoluted ass journey, you can't really help but to perceive it poorly.

Kingdom Hearts 3 is a game that's less than the sum of its parts.

No, it wasn't bad. BBS was bad. DDD was bad. But they were memorable. KH3 was even worse than bad, it was forgettable and boring.

It was mediocre, which in this case is actually worse. At least if it were pure garbage like XV people might still be talking about how shit it was.

Gameplay wise pretty good

Storywise? Fuck no. Ruins the entire series in the climax.

Yes. Kingdom Hearts 2 should have been the end of Sora's story and BBS should have been a self-contained story.

Yes. Anyone saying otherwise is a retard who wasn't waiting 15 fucking years for that game, and as such doesn't have an opinion that matters.

no, but it wasn't that good either, and a sequel to a game that's been anticipated for that long shouldn't be even close to mediocre

>All those characters on the cover.
>Only one is the main character who you play as just about the entire game.
>Namine doesn't even fucking appear until the last cutscene.
Even the boxart tells you what's wrong with this game and the entire series at the moment.

yeah it is, a fucking dumpster fire compared to KH2FM

I'd say DDD was decent, better than Days by a longshot at least.

there are plenty of high points but ultimately it is very mediocre compared to 2FM

>no critical mode till post-launch
This right here was the dumbest shit I've ever seen a game developer pull. The mode everyone with a 3 digit IQ wanted wasn't fucking finished in time for release and instead of pushing it back a couple months they threw it out to the ravenous females and basedboy disney fans.

Kingdom Hearts 3's issues ultimately lie with the fact THAT IT WAS A GAME MADE NOT FOR PEOPLE THAT ENJOYED 1 AND 2. It was made for new people. At every turn the game catered to people that had never even fucking played Kingdom Hearts before.

It was a fucking Disney ad. A playable disney ad. It was fucking insulting.

>IT WAS A GAME MADE NOT FOR PEOPLE THAT ENJOYED 1 AND 2. It was made for new people. At every turn the game catered to people that had never even fucking played Kingdom Hearts before.
Wasn't this the same shit that happened with XV? What the fuck is wrong with Square?

>What the fuck is wrong with Square?
They got too big for their own good is what happened. Hopefully the Avengers game bombs and they fall apart and sell off all their assets. We all know that wont happen though.

FFXV was a thrash fire because they thrashed most of what they had planned, the OG creator was fucking around with it too much and didn't get shit done except ideas. Then for some GOD reason instead of starting something new they GAVE it to the GUY who loved FFXIII and more importantly Lightning.

Square is ran by hacks directors.

Yes.

it was worse

>there are plenty of high points
Toy Story and Monsters for story, and Pirates had a cool level. That was it. The rest of the game was a mess for gameplay and story, especially the rushed ending.

And if we're talking about stuff the base game was lacking, Oathkeeper is the biggest offender.

Tangled world has best graphics and best girl who connected better with Sora than Kairi.

>What the fuck is wrong with Square?
The ethics department.

There are those parts you mentioned, and most of the boss heartless were actually pretty cool even if they were piss easy.

The Frozen boss heartless was badass. Overall, game is mediocre as shit and I can't believe I actually let myself look forward to it. At least Face My Fears and Don't Think Twice are nice.

All I know is that I'm never buying another KH game ever again. Hell I'm not buying the FFVII remake because I refuse to give Nomura any of my money ever again.
Not that it matters seeing I want to get rid of my PS4 anyway due to SJW infection.

>shipperfag
Your opinion is worthless.

>most of the boss heartless were actually pretty cool even if they were piss easy
Cool boss designs don't really do much for me when the combat system you fight them with is an Osaka sized mess.

>At least Face My Fears and Don't Think Twice are nice.
would be nice if not for the wub*

I think you're confusing Tabata with Toriyama. Tabata's crimes include The Third Birthday and Crisis Core.

No but it didn’t come close to expectations. That said there were a lot of moments I enjoyed and I’ll probably come back for the dlc if we’re really getting another massive set of optional bosses like 2FM.

it was terribly disappointing and forgettable. Not bad but definitely a letdown

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>Cool boss designs only go so far
True. I know what you mean

>wub wub
also true, but I let myself like it despite that. It was offputting at first but now I don't mind it.

>tfw all the final mix version is adding is a 3 minute boss fight where you play as Roxas and rehashes of piss easy shitty boss fights that you already did in the main game but you get to play as Aqua and Riku instead
>Also Oathkeeper, which should have been in the main game from the beginning
>No mention of secret boss
>No mention of data org like boss rush
>No further gameplay fixes (Critical mode was nowhere near enough to put it on par with 2FM)
>Retards eating it up like it will save KH3
They deserve nu-Square Enix if they're so willing to eat shit.

While not quite Final Xemnas level Final Xehanort was a hell of a ride. Also the 13 ghosts and Armored Nort were better than the Gummiship segment of Xemnas.

It was exactly what I expected desu.

The only unexpected downsides were just how bad the English voice acting for non-Disney characters was again, and the piss-easy difficulty.

Yeah. Everything about the game just felt rushed which is amazing considering they announced it in like 2013. Square Enix is the most horribly mismanaged company alive right now. Everything since FF13 has been a fucking disaster and theres always stories about how fucked the development was.

>No mention of secret boss
>No mention of data org like boss rush
Actually those were mentioned.

>What the fuck is wrong with Square?
They fired or let walk pretty much all of the talent that made them who they were. They're a one man company and that one man isn't much to begin with.

KH3 is a fucking 3/10 compared to XV being 9/10.

nomura was more involved in t3b than either

>XV
>9/10
You made me reply. Have a (You), you fucking retard.

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More like KH3 is a 5/10 and XV is a 4/10

What did he do besides character design for either?

It's the truth.

KH3 is 3/10 being generous and XV is 9/10 with criticisms applied.

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Everything for the entire foundation of the game, the game design itself, he was the one who even pitched the game to begin with and instructured toriyama to write the script based on his instruction, he oversaw the entire games development and as creative producer was in charge of all creative decisions on the game and was character designer, he even oversaw all voice acting seasons, and nomura said since he was too busy directing BBS at that time its why he put Tabata on to direct since he said Tabata knows what he wants, tabata was just on t3b to make sure the game was getting made, and he even got threatened they'd cancel Type0 if he doesn't, nomura was still the one who made all creative decisions on the game through to the end.

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>story driven game with bad pacing
>also story is a convoluted mess that the game tries to wrap up in 3 hours at the end
>worlds are garbage, only good one is ToyStory and Baymax but BOTH are ruined by shitty boss fights
>floaty combat, press button for 5 second cutscenes
>attractions are so boring literally nobody uses them
>no actual FF characters besides Moogles
>no hollow bastion
>no sephiroth
>useless Kairi and Axel training arc
>can't make your own team for the final fight
>FUCKING UNDERWATER SEQUENCE IN THE FINAL FIGHT

I could literally add 100 more points to this list, so yeah, it was bad

They are both 3/10 if we are being honest.
15 was written really, REALLY badly

15 was pure kino only KH3 is bad.

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