Created stealth genre

>created stealth genre
>created strand genre
And people still say that Kojima is hack for some reason

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STRANDING HERE

ON THE EDGE

He didn't create stealth games. 005 and others did it first. Imagine clinging on to bullshit.

dilate

What the fuck is a strand game though? We still don't even know what kind of game Death Stranding is.

what's your favorite game in the strand genre, Yea Forums?

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He created the first successful brand of stealth games.

Sony already said it means players can leave messages and items to other players

Silly plebeian you cannot comprehend Kojimas mind. Dont even try it.

This is fucking revolutionary tho
A better Journey

We haven't seen any fucking gameplay, yet this pretentious ass says it's a brand new genre?

Yea Forums is going to fucking eat this dogshit up

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You must be fucking out of your mind.

IT'S CALLED SOCIAL MEDIA.

Can I fuck their shit up and send them ASCII penises?

that's some nintendo-retard level of mental gymnastics

Rudimentary creature of blood and flesh, you touch Kojimbo's mind fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

hackjima only invents reasons to hang out with celebs

What gymnastic you retard? Name a stealth game before MG

>Death Stranding
>Life Stranding
>Cunny Stranding
Kojima you are genius.

Tbh chameleons created the stealth genre like 200 million years ago

>create shitty stealth game
>call it strand genre
hmm i wonder why

I finally understand this game.

I watched the movie Lobster, this game is exactly that.

world of goo i guess

Kojima is going full Kanye

kojimbo is being a little bit too pretentious to my liking

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castle wolfenstein, you stupid fuck

like dark souls?

I can't wait for MauLer to do an anal for this game.

Weird movie
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Based Miyazaki inventing strand games with Demon’s Souls.

so like dayz but offline?

Remember when people thought the first trailer for Death Stranding was like a metaphor and there was no game the actual game was gonna be that? Well, it is, he was actually showing the plot.

It's literally just an open world tps. Bunch of assets recycled from days gone as well for some reason

w-where are the computers coming from?

So like a shitty Souls?

The cinematics look fantastic and the actors look really good too, this game is gonna have some top tier moments. But the gameplay still doesn't convince me at all. Hope it isn't based on generic filler missions like MGSV and just make a more linear thing.

I already hate this for using real actors, what a shit trend

anime models are fucking terrible and you end up with horrible shit like Star Ocean if they try to go with complex emotion.

It's too bad he cut off the strand connecting to Joosten.

What about MGSV, you can use motion capture and have your own faces for the characters too.

who needs Joosten when you can fuck Léa Seydoux

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If you're not lying, then we've already had so many games like this in the past decade alone. It's not fucking new at all.

MGSV was bad

She should fire her agent. The fuck kind of shit agent waits a year to call back after being told of a role?

people talk more about the story and actors than the actual gameplay why isn't Yea Forums treating this as a red flag? it should be a red flag but no one wants to address it.

so will be Death Stranding, that doesn't mean they couldn't make their own faces for the characters

That's an extremely bold statement.
Seppuku incoming if it's untrue.

Honestly I stopped caring about video games. If the game is fun and interesting that's good, I expect the gameplay to just be MGSV with some stupid gimmicks.

From what I've seen and heard it looks like a generic puzzle game.

im making them off-camera and placing them on his desk as we speak

isn't her agent her BF

I should`ve been more specific, I was talking more about TV/Movies famous actors. which is a terrible way to do motion cap since they charge too much and what you end up with is a silent character like Snake in MGSV

>enemies auto aggro
>stealth

A game where you're stranded?

Kojima has never once made a single game. Every single product he's touched was a cinematic experience.

>b-but what about Metal Gear
All trash I'm afraid. Imagine making a video game where the story is the most important element, and completely skimping on the gameplay by making it just one hallway after another.

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Stranded between a game and a movie

that's a fps you failure of a cumshot

All the more reason to get rid of him and have me instead.

The game is going to come out, it is going to be meh, but you're going to pretend to like it and post about it on Yea Forums cause god forbid your PS4 game is mediocre.

this game will be the final test to see if hes a hack or if he was riding metal gears coat tails this whole time.

I think everyone here knows it will be a pretentious trainwreck

it might still be good though

Those actors are 9 out of 10 times better than video game voice actors though.

It might be something like "metroidvania" or something like that. That I can accept. That he might create a sub-genre. Yet, an entirely new genre in and of itself. Not a fucking chance.

I'm calling it now that Kojima is and has always been a huckster, snake-oil selling bastard that stood on the backs of far more creative and intelligent people.

you faggots don't understand, kojima is a meme sorcerer now. his games don't have to be good, his stories don't have to be good. they spread by viral meme magic. you don't even know it, but you are already playing death stranding.

The George Lucas of video games.

this desu

He just has a good eye for projects and audiences that fit his capabilities, he's not an institution.

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>death stranding
>strand
wtf are you people talking about
wtf is a strand death or otherwise

how can someone be this far up their own ass?

Not even gonna pirate. This fucker is without a doubt a huckster. One look at his studio and it is so, fucking, clear. He's not the first one and he sure as fuck won't be the last. IN this industry or any other.

Kojima didnt invent the stealth genre you fucking retard. That was Acquire.

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They're keeping the gameplay under wraps. We saw the horrifying whale ghost thing, but nothing on how you might actually fight it. Sam seems way too slow to just run and gun this thing.
Then that little TGS trailer showed what looked like the beginning of a boss fight with Higgs and his big cat monster, but not the fight itself.

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>Created stealth genre
The first stealth game came out a decade before Metal Gear retard

Inventing a new genre for your game is a longrunning japanese meme

Also wrong. Again it was Acquire

but he already made MGS4

I REALIZE

Man i like his games and i even liked mgsv but his ego is retarded, smells like another flop and this time bankruptcy, hes trying to hype up his walking movie too hard and it wont live to expectations at all, you just know it by the gameplay so far. Balls are balls but sometimes you just gotta stop and lay off the bullshit for a bit.

you'll miss out on the months and years of memes. enjoy camping out with the retrogaming crowd, pretending it's not going on without you. this is the genius of the meme sorcerer.

At least George is so out there anyone can point out how stupid and weird his ideas are. Time will tell how pretentious he really is.

based

*eyeroll*
CounterStrike didnt invent FPS, but it's the first game people think of, retards

Same applies with MGS, Super Mario, Tetris, and Dragon Quest, with their respective genres

The first stealth game was Shoplifting Boy not whatever Acquire made.

Kek

>We haven't seen any fucking gameplay
Yes we have you dumb retard liar.

it's like a sneak em up, open world tps (with deemphasized person shooter) a bit of souls like elements, kinomatography narrative with deep thoughtful themes and asyncronous emergent ludonic moments

you fucking retards, CASTLE WOLFENSTEIN, not wolfenstein 3D they're two completely different games
you could even hold up enemies at gunpoint, so no MGS didn't create shit

Kojima is just fucking around. That or he's mentally ill.

never even fucking heard of that game, lying prick

>What the fuck is a strand game though
It's like Persona but Social Links are done with other players instead of npcs.

When I think about stealth games, I think about hitman, thief or splinter cell.

What I don’t get is if this is true then in like 3 years after it’s released the game will be flooded with messages from other players? Also what if some troll players want to leave spoilers in a message? Should we be forced to interact? Not sure I like the whole asynchronous bullshit, clearly kojiminy hasn’t had experiences with internet outside super polite Japan. Imagine playing halfway through and you see a message engraved into some wall “Fragile betrays Sam” or “Diehardman isn’t real and Sam is schizophrenic”

Yeah I dont know guys

its just asynchronous multiplayer, nothing new
that said im looking forward to it

It's just a TPS set in an open world.

literally who games

Literally none of those are even remotely closely within the stealth genre.

I think you've forgotten that MGS wasn't the first game.

obviously irrelevant since literally no one but you even knows about it

>projected to stardom through youthful work ethic and doing what nobody did
>some genuine brilliance
>bit pretentious but acceptable, just referred to as "a bit of a character"
>eventually lost fucking all credibility, all his main franchises, everyone eager to heap all his successes on other people's shoulders and branding him with his many, many failures as he scrabbles for relevance
Videogames already has a Lucas, and it's not Kojimbo.

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what created stealth

Likely with an online element similar to dark souls being able to see other players briefly in the overworld, or just their footsteps

>thief isn't a stealth game
why are you implying you've played any of those games when you clearly haven't.

Except we know what it is.

Its an open world third person shooter with RPG-lite customization elements. You can quite clearly see that from the gameplay footage, and the customization from the preorder content.

It is quite fucking clear what it is, the gameplay was EXACTLY like MGSV but in a different setting and less focus on stealth. Its not the same as the Fox Engine and yet the game looks almost identical in movement/control so obviously they have tried to make an adhoc Fox Engine since thats what they know how to work with after MGSV.

Being obscure for the sake of being obscure does not make your game deep and not saying what your game about does not magically give it content.

Also you cant 'own' or 'invent' a genre which already existed. Stealth games were going to happen, the fact Kojima made the first 'successful' one means jack fucking shit. Wolf 3D is the first FPS shooter and yet people only talk about Doom. Being first in the door doesnt make you a fucking saint.

Also also MGSV was shit and I have no faith in this game being any different.

Tfw kojima probably hasn’t been trying to be cryptic or pretentious, all along he’s been posting these trailers thinking that it’s a straightforward plot. His head is probably gone so far up his ass that he thinks the smell of shit is fresh air

Tenchu

Kojima is an egomaniac and Kojimadrones are fucking retarded.
Kojima basically made a stealth (5%) walking sim (90%) version of BOTW with bit of occasional gun or melee combat (5%). Wow how fucking original.

>dodge enemies flashlights and use BOXES as hiding spots
WHAT
A
FUCKING
HACK

At least someone fucking gets it. The pretentious fuck really has some gall.

mgs has not been relevant since mgs3 meanwhile Hitman still gets sequels. MGS has always been a stealth parody game.

sounds boring.

>Wolf 3D is the first FPS shooter
Wolfenstein 3D isn't even the first FPS by id, let alone the first made.

MIDI Maze and Hovertank 3D, now there's a couple of games fucking nobody talks about. Which does reinforce your point.

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Hitman is now an always online season bullshit series. It's dead mate.

Koudelka on ps1. Love it but couldn't get into the Shadow Hearts trilogy.

He doesnt say 'here'

>not strandlike

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Kojima thinks that MG was the first stealth game (it wasn't)
Kojima things that MGS was the first top down 3D stealth game (it wasn't)
Kojima thinks that MGS2 was the first full 3rd person 3D stealth game with aiming mechanics (it wasn't)
Kojima thinks MGS3:S was the first over the shoulder 3rd person stealth game with 3rd person aiming (it wasn't)
Kojima thinks that MGS5 was the first open world play as you feel shooter with multiple options on how to approach a mission (it wasn't)

Kojima lives in his own fucking world and thinks he's some insane genius and you retards enable him. There's a reason every movie script he's ever written has been rejected.

>mgs has not been relevant
oof wow this is actually you
yikes

moving goalposts makes every argument you make irrelevant

Metal gear is all people talk about when talking stealth videogames so good job on contradicting the fuck out of yourself

you cannot move a post that hasn't existed for 20 years, user

I predict that it's going to be the first and only strand game until someone decides to reboot DS way later into the future

This. Kojima is a pretentious fuck.
Also, you don't decide you're creating a new genre. It takes people to follow you to say you created a new genre. Dark Souls was just an action adventure game until the copy pastes from other studios happened, then it became the genre of "souls like". BOTW hasn't become a genre yet but with the chink game, the ubisoft game, and death stranding I'm sorta taking a guess that it's going to be the next new genre, and Kojima just wants to hide the fact that his game feels like a more cinematic BOTW.

This unironically.

YOU ARE JUST LIKE ME TRY TO MAKE HISTORY

Lol MGS didn't create, nor define the stealth genre.

Create: Castle Wolfenstein
Define: Thief the Dark Project (came out before MGS)

just like how Shemue is FREE genre game

Splinter Cell Conviction, Hitman Blood Money, and Thief 3 are what most people talk about when they bring up stealth games in terms of gameplay.

Dark Souls 3

Not him but it looks boring too. You can see what the gameplay loop is already, its literally just a third person open world shooter with an engine which is like the Fox Engine but not really
>Start in safe location A
>Collect items X, Y and Z
>Transport items to location B
>80% of your time is spent moving from A to B using basic building mechanics ripped from metal gear survive, slipping on rocks with an animation that looks cool the first time and annoying as shit the next 999 times and patching up your broken foot while trying to not lose your loot with losing loot leading to a S, A, B, C or D score
>15% of your time is avoiding evil humans, fighting them in Fox Engine tier combat (metal gear survive style) or shooting them in MGSV combat mechanics
>5% of your time is avoiding the ghost of Rockefeller and his oil monopoly
>Story is about dimensions clusterfuckery where everything will be super fucking weird and obscure while having one good point about the human condition which will then go full retard into something equivalent to NANOMACHINES or PARASITES, this time it will probably be ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE or some shit and you'll be left thinking 'Thats it?' at the end

>MGS
you fucked up

Yes, and Castle Wolfenstein predates the first MG game.

the genre is ubi-towers

See Also notice that MGS was mentioned in the Define, not Create category, mongoloid.

MG didn't define the stealth genre

>counterstrike
>the genre was literally called "Doomclones" for a decade
Okay retard

at least get the facts straight

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Best $60 iv ever spent

>greentexting removes the fact the game has millions of active players worldwide currently
Okay retard

Tenchu came out before both of those you tremendous retard

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Yes, I knew that, but for some reason always end up mixing it up, my bad.

nobody was talking about Tenchu you fucking idiot

Maybe you don't. That's not our fucking problem.

Ubitowers do not define a genre. They are a feature.
Ubi games do not have an emphasis on exploration about both plot and gameplay. The reason BOTW was so well reviewed is that it takes the open world genre and focuses on that exploration and random chance element which creates unique play experiences.

except the thread is about game created the stealth genre, fucking faggot

>kinomatography
You could just say cinematography. Saying it in a fancy variation isn’t hiding the fact the game is going to be a movie.

>our
sure sweetie

First stealth games ever made were probably Castle Wolfenstein (1981) and its sequel.

Isn't that just Miiverse?

MOVIE GAME? NO NO SIR, STRAND GAME PREASE BUY MANY COPY

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Have we seen enough to be considered a new genre entirely?

That isnt what you said, you dumb goalpost moving faggot.

>created stealth genre
>people unironically believe this
for Japan, maybe

I can't imagine working so hard to try and change people's opinion on a game with so little known about it.

Ok kojidrone, stay ignorant

I guess the genre could be hide and seek instead

I just want more MGSV gameplay

literally just a walking simulator taken to the full extreme

you cant grasp kojimbo real form

THIS

You absolute dip. I fell kind of bad for you

>WE HAVENT SEEN ANY GAMEPLAY
>yes we have
>BUT BUT BUT
Thats you, retard

Every other non-Metal Gear game Kojima has done has been either glorified visual novel or clunky anime action. Why are people so hyped about this?

Because there's a market for that.

For what? Walking sims?
I guess there is.

If you're referring to Zone of the Enders with your buzzwords, those games are great.

Is Dark Souls a Strand Game?

Lobster is good, but it IS weird.
It's really just about society and their expectations of love, partnerships, marriage..

>he thinks chameleons were the first stealth creatures

It's funny to see Yea Forums, who is normally cynical to this type of shallow marketing talk, eat it up when their favorite bullshit salesman is selling it to them.

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According to Kojima, yes. Every player is stranded in their own world, but can come into contact with each other if conditions are met.

>Kojima thinks that MGS5 was the first open world play as you feel shooter with multiple options on how to approach a mission (it wasn't)
Hitman?

2019
i am forgotten

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>50% of the game will be hidden behind the multiplayer
I play single player games. That's what got me into MGS actually. No fucking way I'm paying for this, even if it's Kojima.

Fuck me, man, you can go back a while to get examples of that.

A hyper-ambitious sandbox is the bog standard auteur pipedream, that's never changed.

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MGS: 9/10
MGS2 10/10
MGS3 8/10
MGS4 6/10
MGS5 4/10
Death Stranding ???/10

It's sad to see Yea Forums become too cynical to be able to tell the difference between good and bad games anymore.

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Does anybody actually think this game is going to be good? All we've seen so far is just random pretentious nonsense and the guy hasn't made a good game in 15 years.

>MGS4 6/10
thats generous of you

STRANDO POWER

>MGS5 4/10
Gay, MGSV is a 7 and you know it.

The funny thing is everything we've seen of the game looks shit
The open world looks completely barren. Like, at least BOTW looked interesting and had a diversity in terms of map.
The gameplay looks mostly just traversing with a basic kit you permanently have and upgrading armor and weapons along the way
Occasionally you get into combat or a scripted gun sequence, but it's rather short lived
Stealth is insanely easy and reminds me of splinter cell conviction in how easy it is to avoid enemies

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Stranded between playing it or turning it off more like

>created stealth genre
Wait! Kojima made a stealth game? When was that? I would be interested in knowing what it was.

No we haven't, not enough ui and interactivity cues.

Retard

Holy fuck he’s going the “souls” root

He didn't. As far as I know Castle Wolfenstein was the first stealth game.

Pretty sure most ubisoft games between 2007 and 2014 fit that description tbqh

>Yea Forums is going to fucking eat this dogshit up
dude this place tends to have a civil war when it comes to this guy

Dragons Dogma

meh, dragons dogma did it better

Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen

>tfw the strand genre is just being fully connected to social media while playing vidya

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>What are MMOs?

OF THE CRATER