So now that Monster Hunter World is finally over, what is your final opinion on (AT) Nergigante...

AT was dumb as all the ATs (Kulve not included) are just really shitty gimmick fights turned up to 11, normal Nergal was great though and his design is very good and memorable. The Elder Dragon trait that he embodies though is fucking stupid compared to the rest though. You got these literal embodiments of natural disasters like tornadoes, earthquakes, fucking islands being formed from volcanic eruptions, and then this nigga over here is just "I'm ripping off Deviljho but instead of everything it's just this one specific thing".

Pretty much, if you don't have a weapon that is precise enough and damaging enough, the lack of consistent spike breaks is the difference between a casual 12 minute run and a 49 minute one where you are just hoping he doesn't buff his attack to the point where his slam instakills.

He really is the bastard child of Deviljho and Seregios. I think they should sell him more as a vulture like creature because I think he's hard to sell as an active predator.

Monsters in this game shouldn't be easier to solo than do with a group

For some reason I didn't feel compelled to really bully AT Nerg into submission. I killed him twice in around 10 minutes each and that spark that makes me want to really master a fight wasn't there. This didn't happen with any other monster which is really odd since I literally killed over 200 Teostras and I still like both his normal and AT fights.

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>normal Nergal was great though
Normal Nerg spend most of the time being stun lock and struggling on the floor. AT fix that problem, thankfully. His trait is being the Elderseal dragon and being Angry.

Hip-buster

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Were LS and CB the only weapons to get new moves outside of that stupid claw gimmick?

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>KO him as he is busy roaring 15 times at the start
>stagger him repeatedly as he grows new spikes
>collect the free 10% damage in the form of environmental hazards
>collect another 10% from the turf war
>and another 10% from the gajalaka
>all this while rotating my baby blankets for maximum protection
>mount him with a single jump attack
>nerg doesn't even get to area 3
Truly the perfect way to end monster hunter world

HH has DA SPIN
Everybody else is claw/slinger bullshit

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DO PERFECT RUSH?!?

I can trigger the attack but the speshul timing shit isn't explained in-game.

>elderseal

What exactly IS elderseal? Do you mean the Todd Howard mechanic where the elder dragons lose their powers for no specific reason? Elderseal is something "that kid" made up a recess just so he could have his childish way.

Would've been a lot better if Nergal's spikes were coated in poison since POISON ALREADY FUCKIN DID THE EXACT SAME SHIT AS ELDERSEAL BEFORE WORLD. God, fuck World, fuck Elderseal, and fuck scavenger-ass Niggergante.

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HBG got a proper sniper shot. LBG can reload while rolling. SnS is the one that is getting fuck over if it doesn't get oil.

>AT fix that problem, thankfully
If you solo him AT Nerg is also just an endless stunlock/tripped fest.

>download iceborn 20 minutes ago
>spend 10 minutes spamming O picking up tracks and non stop dialogue from the handler
>remember why I got bored of World so fast
>uninstall

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>implying
Clutch Uppercut
Slinger Burst at will
Perfect Rush

SnS is fine.

Nerg has made me feel very funny things.

HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG NIGGERGANTE YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD MOVE TO ANOTHER THREAD AND I WOULDN'T CATCH UP?

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>doesn't realize that if you research a monster enough, you only have to investigate a single track to trigger pyschoserum tier awareness of it's location
Scruuuuuuuuuuuuub

based silver comet

Wait what does pic related represent in terms of natural disasters?

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>put jet dragon in MHW
>her dive does less damage than the Bomber Plane and angry hedgehog

Japanese yokai bewitchment bullshit

Wanted by the guild for multiple counts of grand larceny.

You're like an obsessed ex.
Nerg is already better then you have ever been. No one cares about you.

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How is spiky dragon better than jet plane?

Thats the problem. I have to do it all over again for new monsters. This is not a fun mechanic at all. I prefer the paintballs.

>spiky Lucina thinks she's a big shot

Is this the power of shilling?

>I prefer the paintballs.
This has a better sense of progression and fits into context more. You're just a whiny boomer.
> I have to do it all over again for new monsters.
You'll get it gradually. Take it easy. Or just get that one tracking set or whatever and farm up research levels in expeditions.

Well in terms of a fight, it's all opinion, so he's not actually "better".
But, the facts are that Nerg is already a fan favorite and no one cares about the Jet Plane Dragon

Can we agree this sexy dragon is a nice addition to the roster?

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Honestly Valstrax's fight was a lot more interesting, the fact that she actually changes her attack pattern compared to Nergigante who just gains and loses areas you bounce off of over time.

Being an asshole

>implying Ichihara didn't beg Tsujimoto to head both development of Iceborne and GU in order to put the fated four and Valfalk in
Good addition but I hate its actual eyes

I use him to test how to play new weapons

He's more popular.

The shit I took this morning could have been the new face of Monster Hunter given Sony's who owns all marketing rights to MHW bottomless marketing budget. This is neither the first time this has happened nor the last.

Nergigante's a marketing tool first and a monster second.

This probably has to do with how the mascot was release. I'm pretty sure if Jet Plane Dragon and her game was release in all consoles and PC, she would most likely get as much, if not, more attention than Nergigante. It doesn't help that nerg's design scream bara for barafags.

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>and that spark that makes me want to really master a fight wasn't there.
Probably because you don't need to in World. Weapons and armor can go a long way.

>sexy dragon

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Valstrax was a marketing tool too. That's kinda what a flagship is.
The only difference is that Nergs fanbase is like four times as big

A bit too slow imo, even his stagger animation is like 4 times slower than normal making it easy to dogpile on him

I played the iceborne beta today, took down the monsters with relative ease with the weapons i main. But the clutch claw seems like tacked on trash that sacrafices dps, i see no reason to use it with my dual blades

You mean the flagship monster from capcom's most successful game of all time is more popular than the flagship monster of a moderately successful expansion to a moderately successful anniversary game?

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You say that, AT Vaal took advantage of that and basically made sos flaring next to impossible.

Zinogre isn't in World, and he's still number 1 in popularity

AT nerg is such a shitter.
But I like his music and the gamma set is fair grouse.

I liked autistically fighting the other ATs though. I killed all of them besides Xeno and Nerg in under 5 minutes. I killed AT Teo naked with a water bow and no items just for the hell of it. It's only with AT Nerg that I don't feel like doing any more than I "had" to. I don't understand why either since I was looking forward to it (on PC) since I heard about the trouble PS4 players were having.

I miss dalamadur so much.

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Guys im going to leave my Elder Dragon here while im out please take care of him he's kinda blind

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Not being restricted to a Nintendo Hand Held only kind of help Nerg in his popularity.

Yes, but this was WORLD'S flagship. If the two flagships were reversed, we'd be having the exact same conversation right now except you'd be telling me that Valstrax's fanbase is four times as big as Nerg's. The vast majority of World's playerbase are people that have never touched or heard of the other titles, and they have absolutely no plans to play them regardless if they get ported to platforms with good resolutions and controls.

The exact same shit happened with Fire Emblem six years ago.

>Within two weeks of release by December 20, Monster Hunter Portable 3rd sold 2.58 million units in Japan.[9]
>According to the game's publisher, Monster Hunter Portable 3rd is "now the fastest selling PSP title ever in Japan" and "the fastest selling game in Capcom's history." [10]
>By June 2011, the game's sales in Japan had reached 4.8 million units; making it one of the best-selling PSP games of all time.[11]

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>PS4 players
That's why they were having trouble

good visual design, shit fight

Same.
Even though his fight is kinda boring, it's still better than Zorah's, and the presentation is great

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There are no monsters in Street Fighter II

AT Zorah should have been a proper Zorah, in my opinion. They probably held back due to being a story monster and people will bitch about the time limit.

SF2 is behind Resi 6, Remake 2 and Monhun: world user.

I don't have a PS4, can i have a quick rundom on the Iceborn demo so far, how is it ?
No shitpost please.

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If your thinking about buying IB, you should play it just to see how your weapon has changed

no posting ugly humanoids plz

Blanka doesn't count?

>Spoiler
That's just one of his many pros

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>posting ugly shit
Don't tarnish Kulve Taroth's real beauty with that shit.

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>seeing him fall asleep the first time
>exposed jelly bean paw near his head
Felt bad bashing his skull

primal jew element discharge

I honestly don't get why Zinogre is so popular.

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I literally can't fap to anything who isn't humanoid. Especially, non-human faces are fucking disgusting. i'll stick to hunters then.

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Something about this picture flicks a switch

not even the handler?

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Cool design, cool fight, cool theme

I really like the progression of a typical Zinogre fight. Him going from normal to rage to powered up rage gets me fucking amped as FUCK and I start going for style points by dodging through his attacks instead of away. Fucking hell I love that fight.

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source?

nexivian just e621

Ew

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imgur.com/a/Is7pT

Those shyni art
Based

Snow Lavasioth is the worst monster and I hate him.
Otherwise it felt just like more of the same. I liked the two(?) stage hazards in the new area though. Watching Tigrex struggle to not fall makes me laugh every time.

>I barely noticed the regrowth mechanic.
That's how I know you never played the AT one.

Ideally, it should be the exact same difficulty for both but that's easier said than done.

That usually because pugs tend to die for the stupidest of things. Would you trust your only two cart on someone that decided to YOLO to the monster while everyone else is still getting ready?

SnS also got a new move, cretin. So did GL, IG, SA. All weapons also got at least one new slinger ability.

And no buffs to motion values to speak of. Enjoy playing shield bash simulator again unless you wanna use that crit element set that is carried by weakness exploit.

SnS is poorly designed in World.

>hey look! We're adding a spin attack on CB
>release offensive guard, which proc guard point and indirectly buff SAED

>best monster wasnt on the beta
For what purpose?

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Nergigante is cool, AT version is a bit cheap on the backward slam, and definitely has too much fucking health. Not as cancerous as teo and luna though.

Maybe cat dragon doesn't want to get kill repeatedly in high resolution.

Lol. I tanked it with a shitty health glaivesect and super regen. Didn't notice the regrowth.

Enjoy spamming that shield into nothing against Tigrex. Hell, shield bash already is not the most efficient way to play SnS against some monsters. WE "carries" most weapons in the game btw.
You know you can guard in Axe mode by pressing R2? It switches you back so it's obviously not as good but it works at least.

AT Xeno > AT Kulve > AT Kirin > AT Nergigante > AT Vaal > AT Teostra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AT Lavasioth > AT Lunastra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AT Kushala

Semi-confirmed to be in the TGS demo.

Sure you did, Timmy. You totally "tanked" those black spikes like a big boy.

>TGS demo
Doesn't Iceborne release before TGS?

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>putting metal dragon that low

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He might be thinking of Gamescom

Not him, but AT metal boi is pretty shit
Yeah, that makes more sense

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It does, actually. Guess it will be for another event then, maybe the second beta wave in July. They did a poll recently about whether people wanted to fight Tigrex or Narga as soon as possible and Narga won but maybe it was just for the sake of it.

>Not him, but AT metal boi is pretty shit
How so?

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>finally over,
the fuck are you talking about, doesn't it have a new dlc about to drop?

AT Nerg was basically it curtain call to MHW, being a mascot monster for the game and all, and Iceborne has a new Mascot Monster to jerk off to.

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Velkhana is garbage tier. It might be a fun fight with cool weapons and armor but he's still just Ice Kushala.

Bottom of the barrel tier.

Still not sure how that makes the game "over", but then i've always been confused about how people constitute a game being "dead" or "over" as theres doesn't seem to be any standard to go by.

This is Kushala Daora.
Say something nice about him!

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AT Nerg was the final boss, more or less. We won't be seeing him for a while and that applies to the previous monster hunter games. Sure, they might come back in one form or another, but they don't have the spotlight anymore. Image totally not related.

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>him

>him

this Kushala looks a bit rusty

Okay I give up, clearly I don't understand how this series works. I guess iceborn is the next monster hunter game by that logic.

Is Kush not a guy?

I wonder how soft it skin is.

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Do you guys not know? All monster except the ones that are 100% females must always be treated as male

youtube.com/watch?v=nOVFKGYzlew

It's fucking shit mate.

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Why do CB users hate AT Nerg so much?

And GS, and Hammer and GL and basically any user who has to rely on a long animation to do big damage....

He's pretty easy with hammer though. Some of the faster times are with Hammer.

youtube.com/watch?v=un3FZUKNRw0
They are not trying hard enough.

>GL
Any shield user in general should NOT have any trouble with AT Nerg.

Nerg doesn't fall for that GP into SAED shit like every other monster, so they hate him

>Horn now does shockwave damage on each song not just the initial recital
this is actually a nice change. I'm also glad to see the new attack really is a new note type, maybe we'll get interesting songs like Weakness Exploit

I hope HH gets exclusive buffs like unnerfed Dash Juice or a buff that enchants everyone's weapons with para for 10 seconds or something.

Yes, but every other weapon is functional without WE. SnS is not.

>literally every weapon can do the mounting attack now
Why does Capcom hate SA so much this is not fair SAbros...

World is my first MH game and I was wondering if LS is meant to make the game feel piss easy?
I havent failed a mission 3 times yet

LS and Bow are the top tiers

LS is pretty easy to use but fun
You probably wont hit any roadblocks until High Rank

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All this crying about one new move btfoing his gorilla overcommitting aed spam. Now whats actually bad difficulty? kulve and behemoths healthpool. Punish the solo player by not scaling the health at all for fuck all reasons.

Do you have any other recommendations when it comes to weapons?
It feels kind of lame to use the same weapon when there are so many to chose from.

I personally like Hammer and Switch Axe the most, but it's best to just give the weapon a spin yourself

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HBG on the PC turn the game into a 3rd Person Shooter.

>tfw Frontier is going to die later this year

I don't care about the game too badly, but I'm going to miss all the monsters.

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Is this better?

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I want her to be my waifu

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its more of the same
Tigrex is still aggressive although it felt easier to juke since we have more mobility in this game
his roar still does damage point blank
clutch claw is, well clutch, aim for an easy anime attack that does big damage
also, being able to flinch a monster on demand only to follow up with a lvl 3 charge on his head was strong as fuck
i feel like hunters are getting way too many tools and monsters remain the same

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>His favorite monster isn't Gore Magala
FUCKING WHEN CAPCOM

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Does the game get better later on?
>have to do shit tier anime quests before I can join friends instead of just drop in drop out and hunting some fucking monsters
>combat is clunky as hell in a game where a monster can kill you in a few hits
Maybe it's because i've been playing a lot of dark souls but the dual swords is the only weapon where i don't feel like a handicapped 90 year old.
>hit monster's tail with slow weapon
>he turns around
>have to stop and turn character to face him and restart my attack instead of the character intelligently facing his target and following its movements like any sane person
>get hit by monster charge or roll out of the way reseting my entire attack
>slowly shuffle forward or stand still and holster weapon before i can do anything
>fights are less like a ferocious duel and more like an MMO raid where you can run away a bit and actually sit and sharpen your weapon in a fucking battle

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LS is ez modo, it hits fairly hard, is mobile as fuck and has one of the best counters in the game. All that and a pretty robust moveset makes it a really effective and safe weapon to use,

The new things it got are pretty good though, having a big axe finisher will be nice and being able to chain discharges seems extremely underrated to me.

Eat shit, Frontiernigger. Now you have to play the only good game in the series.

Let me get that for you.

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Did you play it?

>imploding they won't end up consolidating everything into world and its sequels

Fuck no. I haven't played 4U either.

>every year is a new expansion with X monsters from the previous game
>eventually, World will have a world full of maps full of monsters from all game
The only criminal thing about this is that we have to share it with fatso, who would claim she contribute half the things you done.

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G Rank Rusted Kushala daora did not exist until 4U

Handler a cute

>her

nigger hes raging gtfo there

Capcom does recycle all the time, but I'm not so certain about that seeing that a lot of the assets were made for Dos's engine, and the main Capcom branch would probably prefer to make new designs. It would be easier for COG to make an offline version to put on the Switch or something but I doubt they're willing to do that. Meanwhile DDON is likely going down the shitter with them soon too and Deep Down will absolutely never be a thing either.

It still existed at all, and the 4th gen iteration is the one most people are going to remember.

2G didn't have a G rank rusted kushala, only high-rank. It literally did not exist until 4U

Yes, I know. Why are you getting worked up over a silly filename?

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not worked up just pointing out a thing that is silly about Rust Daora

And Monster Hunter didn't exist until World.

over?

I was just about to buy the game

Please tell me other fights in this game are not like this because I had enough of this shit playing From games

It over in a sense that Capcom is moving on to Iceborne. The game itself is still full of shitters and rank 999 that are still working on getting everything.

Clearly you've never played against a good deejay player

Surely when the game goes on sale at the same time as the expansion there will be an influx of new players

The game practically finished its post-release update cycle until Iceborne comes out, most of it is effectively postgame stuff. Unfortunately a good chunk of it (Arch-Tempered elder dragons + harder collab stuff) is effectively timegated due to the event quests rotating in and out, so you'd have to wait until the next festival to try out everything.

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Git gud.

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I had no idea. I have never played these types of games. I'm just looking for something play on PC that doesn't reek of western developer sensibilities, and isn't a From game or a fighting game or a JRPG.

None of the AT monsters were good beside Xeno'Jivva and Zorah. Both of them should've been normal versions.

Or they could've just had 50 minutes time limit in story mission and 30 for optional.

They wouldnt forget about Barioth when Iceborne is ice themed and they added Narga and Tigrex back, right?
RIGHT?

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>second beta wave in july
the second beta wave is next week, user.

AT nerg was a reaction to WAHHHHH THE GAME IS TOO EASY. At the difficulty level, AT nerg is somewhat the 3rd hardest monster in the game (Ex Behemoth and Behemoth take 1st and 2nd place), but AT Nerg isn't really hard once you get use to his combo and when to dodge it. The hard part is mostly players not wanting to fight him over 40 minutes and complain their glass cannon died when they are trying to kill him in 10 minutes.

You can still play the game perfectly fine. It takes a while before you reach endgame, where some endgame content is rotated every few weeks.

PC let you mod in those Time limit event and transmog. The game is meant to be play by killing giant monster with giant weapon and not by difficulty.

2gayforme

Having over 500 defense in high rank is considered "glass cannon" now?

Glass this entire fanbase. I am convinced that worldfags are bona-fide subhumans.

The vast majority of content is permanently available. I don't know about what western sensibilities you're implying but it's the biggest overhaul in the series with the modernization it got.

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Glass cannon as in not taking Evade Extender/Guard/Health Boost deco just to slot in another attack deco while face tanking AT Nerg.

Elderseal doesn't even do much shit, even normal elders they'll flinch and lose whatever aura shit they use for a grand total of like 3 seconds before getting it back in full force.

I don't think that is how Rathian would react.

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There should be no reason why one should ever need more than 150hp with endgame defense. If a Monster is dealing that much damage without using some sort of "alpha strike" attack, then something has gone wrong in development. Guard and evade extender are weapon specific staples though and are not defensive skills. Plenty of people use them because they help HBG and Lances keep up the pressure. The same goes for HG earplugs, windproof, and tremor res. This does not happen with vitality for two simple reasons - it only does anything when you get hit and it does nothing to increase your DPS.

When are they gonna remove Kushala? It's such a fucking nigger of a monster.

his design is awesome but his fight is piss-easy

Why do you hate him so much? Did he shit in your cereal or something?

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i'm a worldbabby, whats the one on the left

Seregios

As long as we get some explanation on how the fuck his "reinamate fuckers" works, even if it's total reaching bullshit. As is he's too magical

rapist pinecone dragon Steve

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>Don't have windproof 5
>Instantly fail
>Don't have a ranged weapon
>Instantly fail
He's also fucking tedious as shit to fight, does nothing genuinely threatening or impressive, and doesn't even look cool. He's fucking garbage and I'm dumbfounded as to how he's managed to get into so many games.

The boyfriend of Rathalos's wife

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all the elder dragons embody some kind of primal force and gigga nigga is no different.
teostra: i am fire
dank kush: i am the wind
kirin: i am thunder
nergigante: i am really angry
kulve: i am jewish

>"reinamate fuckers"
What do you mean by this? Also, this is a game where literally every other dragon spam elemental powers at a whim.

Him breathing the effluvium into girros corpses and them getting up and aping you. At least bullshit magicbreath stuff is explained with "lol they have an organ that lets them breathe fire/water/electricity/super-aids". VH is too mysterious

Black riots

its literally explained that vaal lives in symbiosis with the effluvium which is a microbial bacteria thing.

I want to say that Tarath embody Lava more than any monster in the game. The gold is for her protection and being a high class girl.

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KT embodies the 7 deadly sins.

Either I'm a brainlet or that doesn't really explain how dead monsters can just get up while they're in the effluvium. Maybe if it mind-controlled living ones? I dunno. I don't get this shit

DDON is such a good game
fuck capcom, release your games in the west

What does Ahtal-Ka represent?

KT is actually heat.
her breath is actually heat wave melting the ground.

>Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Pride: Obvious
>Gluttony: Burning through the gold embodying mindless consumption I guess?
>Lust, Envy: ???
I dunno user

I love Barioth but i really doubt he's gonna be in

Really? A lot of the newer content it gets kind of looks low quality.

>Envy
She never has a gem of her own, the very thing that makes an Elder Dragon.

>Lust
We are stripping her naked.

War
>constructs giant machines to fight
>lives in the ruins of civilizations
>is controlled by a gaudy bugman

i played it a while ago and really enjoyed it, haven't really kept up with it so i don't know about the new stuff, it's just fun to play

Plenty of non-elder dragons have gems. And behemoth, an elder dragon, doesn't. And that "lust" thing is reaching further than Plesioth's hipcheck.

This is literally the fucking reason why everyone hates ATN though.

Literally every single other fucking monster in the game including Behemoth and Extremoth allows players to build around their weaknesses and exploit them. ATN doesn't allow that though. You literally have to fucking build defense and tank against him to solo him at all even if you're fucking using the bowguns which inherently are not designed to be tanky and by doing so you're not only dragging out the fight longer but genuinely working against your own weapon's strengths.

GS users literally cannot even fucking beat ATN without using straight up cheese builds like Aerial GS spam or Draw GS spam. Even then if you enter the third phase of the fight without interrupting his travel good fucking luck cheesing him then because he will literally Backslam you up to 6-8 times in a row so that all his spikes turn black and he dive bombs you again.

Sometimes it's literally not even the player's fault if they lose against ATN because his stupid fucking backslam spam can last so long that your weapon buff or effect will just wear off and now you're just a sitting duck.

ATN is the definition of artificial difficulty because the literally did nothing with his AI or move-set besides making literally everything faster and continuously faster, increase the damage to absurd one-shot amounts, added a move that can cancel recovery and be chained infinitely and added a 1 second wind-up 360 tail whip that'll cart anyone with less than 130 health if they're not guarding.

Monster Hunter as a fucking idea is not supposed to have people build fucking tank just to survive a monster, it's supposed to be exploiting weaknesses and attacking at the opportune time.

The best way to handle ATs was to just make them more aggressive and random so it'd be exactly like learning a new monster but with the same assets. Instead they made all of them have one-shots and chain abilities that are retarded to deal with.

All these talk and no one notice the dodogama eating rocks at the corner.

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Ahtal-Ka doesn't represent shit, because despite being the single best monster in the series, it isn't actually an Elder Dragon.

>Rajang is a mortal that kills and consumes embodiment of primal forces
Based and red pilled.

Nergigante has to be "The Hunger". His whole thing is "he is really fucking hungry"

Nergigante is a cat.
He is literally just a big fucking cat with a grouchy attitude because he's too lazy to kill his own prey.

The hunting horn got the new echo notes that do a surprisingly good damage and from the horn in the beta you got 2 new songs from them, one actually does decent damage (which you can use 3 in a row and encore for a fuck ton of damage) and the other leaves a bubble on the ground that basically gives you the vaal armor set bonus after you touch it. It is very likely I go HH main for iceborn.
The buffed wyrm stake mechanic for GL seems nice too tho.

How can you write all this and be wrong on like every single point.
You don't have to build a "tank" to fight AT Nerg, you fucking sperg.
In fact, pretty much no one actually put defence skills into they're sets because having a max dps set is the hottest meme in MHW. Even TA speedrunners only ever equipped Evade Window to deal with him. Defensive skills are not needed for AT Nerg.
You are just bad at the game and desperately need defense to survive against him.

How do monhunfags resist posting about big hot monster boys in every thread

if we are to go with this narrative of her being the 7 deadly sins.
her Lust can be her Lust for power by hoarding all these powerful weapons as her armor.

Holy fucking Niggergante I've never seen someone backpedal as hard as you just did.

Not wanting to deal with bans mostly.

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because most of us just want to play the game. not jack off to some mutant with monster parts slapped on to some bara.

>everyone hates ATN though
The majority of people don't hate him.
In fact, not to start shit or anything but pretty much no one complained about him until after he came to PC.
And I'll just uh... leave that information there.

>The best way to handle ATs was to just make them more aggressive
That is literally what they did with AT Nerg. Most of the other stuff just seem to be in the gitgud category and not waiting until you have the right moment to attack Nerg. Dodging his back smash is just dodging on your left or forward away from Nerg. He punish you if you're too greedy with your attacks.

Oh look, a nice little loaf

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TA speedrunners are a good watch but you're only ever seeing the perfect runs where everything goes right.

You're not seeing the run where AT Nerg wastes 1 entire minute by just spamming the slam like 7 times in a row.

I still don't think it's that bad of a fight, but I do think that the slam is a poorly designed move. You can't have a move that hits that hard with so small of a tell that only the faster weapons are particularly capable of dealing with.

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I'm really mad that the Agknator video made "artificial difficulty" retards think they have the right to speak.

People have been complaining about the slam since day 1 when it came onto PS4. That's really the only attack anyone has a problem with.

There's an entire board for that.

I got a three day ban for posting some of Maya's Nergigante images on /vg/ before, like that one. The full Bing Bing Wahoo Valstrax image is somehow fair game though.

>boys

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How unfortunate for most of you

>In fact, not to start shit or anything but pretty much no one complained about him until after he came to PC.
That is absolutely false because if you were actually playing the game when he first came to PS4 you'd know that literally everyone was saying he's retardedly hard to get through. Even JinxJinx who is a literal fucking autist who plays MH 25 hours a day said it's extremely difficult for him to find a build to completely counter him. It took him a whole day before he finally figured out a way to not aggro his backslam constantly and even still he couldn't find a way to manipulate the AI because it's seems to legitimately be RNG as to what move he'll throw out.

Cute monster poster, you are keeping mon threads alive on Yea Forums right? Also you bump /mhg/ i assume?

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People said it was a hard attack to deal with and that the answer was to just not overcommit. Then the video came out and then suddenly it's this impossible to dodge OHKO move that has no wind up.

Hmm.
I guess this does actually fit.
Don't think it's what the devs intended, since a fair bit of it is reaching, but it really makes me think.

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>gitgud category and not waiting until you have the right moment to attack
>Dodging his back smash is just dodging on your left or forward away from Nerg
If you play GS, HBG or CB you would know that what you're saying is completely stupid because Nerg can literally randomly cancel any of his recovery attacks with Backlsam so it's a literal fucking guessing game to figure out if he's about to punish you for trying to punish him.

FFS GS users' best bet to beating him is just spamming Aerial GS and hoping Nerg doesn't spam Backslam in return.

I wish Nerg would instant slam me if you know I'm talking about.

The animation is faster than some weapons attack animation startup. The OHKO thing is a dumb meme but it does legitimately feel like you're getting input read by some SNK fighting game boss depending on which weapon you're using.

That being said, GS and CB probably have it the worst and I don't use either of those so l m a o. The fight is a fucking joke with SnS and Lance.

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Fine jeez.

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I think there's multiple people who post cute monsters on either thread.

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name my band

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>Cute monster poster
Which one of them all?

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Backslame
Is a literal fucking RNG move that Nerg uses
It's completely fucking random when he uses it
He can chain it once he starts
It cancels his recovery almost entirely
And most slower weapons literally cannot respond in time to dodge it
Which means that if you're trying to punish Nerg for a move there is always a chance he'll just Backslam you and you can't respond, you just have to take the fucking damage.
It doesn't matter how long you wait or how many attacks you let him do
It is fucking RNG
It literally does not have a strategy to it you just have to fucking guess when it comes out.

Why the fuck are you people pretending that slower weapons have some sort of strategy against this? Even in TA runs you will see people get hit by it. It's fucking RNG god damn.

What about it?

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>me and the boys gonna get our tails cut

Since when are TA's no hit runs? And news flash retard, monster behavior is ALL RNG. If it wasn't, TA's wouldn't restart 1000 times to get a perfect run.
And if you really have THAT much of a problem with the slam, just slot Evade Window. It's not that hard.

>Poor little Worldbab

i dont know about others but im always open to more Doujinshi of female hunters being raped by the monsters.
sadly most of it has vore/gore in it. i can only thing one with a congalala and another with Great Jaggi. sigh.

Everyone keeps posting these supposedly cute chibi drawings when the monsters are cuter as they are.

>timed hits
Looks neat.

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>And if you really have THAT much of a problem with the slam, just slot Evade Window

I don't even fully agree with the person you're responding to, but you are really not understanding the problem with the slam.

It has nothing to do with evading the slam.

It's when he uses the slam as soon as you begin your attack animation on some of the slower weapons.

You will get hit by the slam before you even have the ability to roll.

You could argue that it's a lesson against over-committing with the slower weapons, but it's still a poorly designed move.

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Well i DO post cute monsters when threads are hitting page 8-9 but i don't post on /vg/

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Well if you're getting hit every time you attack him by the slam, don't you think you should stop attacking until you know he's gonna do something?
And don't even give me this "muh weapons too slow" shit because GS TA's can always get one draw attack after the slam and Immedialty have time to dodge after.

>bought World on PS4 when it came out
>didn't play much
>just bought it on PC a couple days ago
>instant load times and much better frame rate
>enjoying it a lot more
Guess I'll have to wait on Iceborne

You're still not getting it user.

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Why is SnS so sluggish in World?

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>by that logic
It literally is the next game though. This was never a secret

Sounds to me like you can't adapt.
You've been filtered by the slam.

You can also mod it, user.

Literally had all of my tickets 2 hours after AT Nerg dropped but ok.

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What do the mods do? Will it fuck with my steam achievements? Will it look like a cheat?

Best mod is the one that puts all of the NPCs into the Gathering Hub. Makes the game actually playable online. Couldn't pay me to go back to the PS4 version after installing that mod.

It's likely the bacteria infests the corpse and is able to move the muscles through concerted effort, then responds to Vals instincts/subconscious since they're symbiotically linked

Just theory though

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>So now that Monster Hunter World is finally over
Are you retarded and don't know how MH games work? MHW is far from being over, in fact HR was just the beginning, the real meat of the game will be Iceborne.

>doubles the damage
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm back.

Its on the We don't know category. Maybe Capcom might do something, maybe not, it difficult to predict them. Some anons just run transmog mods, skin mods, gathering hub mods, KT crafting mods, and lewd mods. Some user ran this for a year and not get banned.

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They don't make it clear How Vaal does that, which cements her on the elder dragon list besides being a 'regular' dragon. Same tier as Kush summoning wind out of nowhere and Kirin riding lightning storms.
They do explain that he works alongside the Effluvium in the vale, and he has control over it. Effluvium is a flesh eating superbacteria aids thing, so it doesn't make sense that the bacteria itself can really reanimate stuff. In her intro we see a bunch of girros getting their effluvia succ'd by Vaal, and in odogaron's turf war doggo tries to maul Vaal but also gets sucked dry by the effluvia, so I'm betting that those girros and raphinos aren't really dead and the effluvium weakens them for Vaal and makes them docile to it or something like that instead of bioenergy necromancy.

It stole the precious thing.

Nah, Gutter Dragon sucks ass. It's honestly a LvL 3 Miasma check. Pass/Fail fights are shitty.

from what i understand as long as its not something that impacts the game play of others and/or powers you up its ok.
so modding in new monsters/skins.these are ok.

modding in so that your hunter 1 hits anything
modding so your brand new HR1 character has perfect HR gear with all decos
modding gear that modifies stats to make it insane.

Nobody has been banned for mods in the slightest. There was something about a takedown of mods that restored rotating events but I haven't used it so whatever.

>Some user ran this for a year and not get banned.

That's bullshit seeing not even the PC version (let alone that same mod) is a year old, but otherwise it's true that there are no bans so far.

They say when you arrive that the effluvium drives monsters wild and makes them more aggressive. I've never seen him reanimate anything, only the opposite, draining their effluvium and killing them.

>modding so your brand new HR1 character has perfect HR gear with all decos

A lot of people do this with their alts because they don't feel like waiting for events to roll back around. Can't really blame them if they've already done it once desu.

I don't think they care all that much unless you're ruining multiple online sessions with blatant cheating.

forgot your (You)

Kushala Daora is my favorite elder Dragon, even if it is a total pain to fight it, is so majestic and pretty, It takes me back to the FU days when they put a fucking Kushala Daora on the village quest at like 4 stars, what the fuck were they thinking?! I thought it would just be another monster but the fucker was nearly impossible to fight, both because I was unexperienced and because there wasn't any good weapons or armors to fight it.

It's theme perfectly encapsulates the impotence I felt, so I'm never relaxed when fighting it, I always fight it at my best.
youtube.com/watch?v=vWwqA4DoazI

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I actually farmed Kushy before Tigrex in low rank. Granted it wasn't my first MH so the difficulty spike wasn't there and that it was predictable as fuck, but I managed to get in at least one slay that didn't require a repel with the equipment obtainable at the time.

youtube.com/watch?v=m51qHVvcth4
And then we fast forward to today.

Yeah, Vaal is all about killing shit instead of reanimating stuff beyond itself.
>Effluvium drives monsters wild and makes them more aggressive
And everyone wants gore back in MHW? Do we really need to see how the frenzy virus interacts with effluvium?

I love how MH went from forcing you to time a button release as the BASICS of a weapon like the GS to giving you this awesome "you did well!" combo. The SnS would always punish you for recklessly pushing the triangle button by locking you into that shitty step slash so what's the point?

because the new attacks follow SnS traditional playstyle. SnS was one of the weapons that was fine to get timed hits because it was already centered around "mashing gets you punished" since the rising slash existed

The advancing slash is fucked and the turning slash has an oversized window. Not sure if MHWI tweaked both though.

It's a free hunter art in everything but name. And locking you into a long combo is the opposite of how an SnS is to be played; that's more DB.

I has been playing MHXX and man, am I fucking rusty, I didn't played any MH in like 3 years, but I wanted to prepare for Iceborne.

MHW Iceborne for PC when?

How is it locking you in a combo? You can evade cancel before any of the button presses, which makes it safer than falling bash.

Winter. MHW itself is quite easy to get into and you shouldn't have any problem if you play the previous games.

WHAT CHANGES DID THEY MAKE TO DB?

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Disregarding that the thing that makes Hunter Arts is that they're tied to a gauge, how is it free? It requires not just a solid opening and certain starters but proper timing several times in a row to get the proper damage. You can also stop at the different points as well instead so it doesn't lock you down.

the new slinger evade is fucking terrible, most of the dodge animation has no i-frames

The only change DB needs is for HH to be buffed to the point where people actually use it and give me free stamina. Same with Bow.

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So is the axe mode buff for SA actually worth anything or does it not matter?

I'm slowly getting my skills back, no monster so far has lasted more than 10 minutes.

>most of the dodge animation has no i-frames
I don't fucking believe you, I based my entire game around dashing hits and dashing to get to sensitive spots fast, there's no way they nerfed the most important part of DB

Can you evade during the combo without getting locked into anything? That's THE defining feature of the SnS.

It's free because it's free? And what the fuck is an "opening"? That's not how you play MH. Watch as everyone spams this thing day and night like every other OP move.

It's all so tedious.

AT this point you shouldn't be surprised with World not understanding what made MH fun to begin with

Better than mindlessly wandering around the map till a monster shows up

I really wish paintballs and psychoserum would come back. I see no reason not to have both this and scoutflies. in-fact, psychoserum would be actually more useful than ever in world since even pedal monsters get so much distance now

Recycling assets feels kinda pointless when majority of these Frontier monsters pretty much has their base skeletons ready to use in current engine
They just need to tweak and adjust it to fit how they behave in Frontier

Because it's a console demo.

With a question like that I'm not sure you've ever played a MH in your life let alone seen the attack we're talking about here. Monsters don't just sit still waiting for you to hit them, they fight back, reposition and get knocked around. Combat in MH is about learning monster patterns and your weapon moveset so as to be able to safely do the most damage to the right area in the windows provided with proper positioning.

>"did I overcommit here? or here? or here? ore here?"
>shows footage of his SAED spamming ass overcommitting
Charge blade was a fucking mistake.

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I think it has a new move with O -> O -> O in Demon mode?

Bowguns >Lance> bladecucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kicks, shadowboxing and stones > bow

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I disagree, monsters in previous games were easy to find and there was no need for tracking or scoutflies with how fast you could move between areas. You didn't even need paintballs if you were familiar enough with the monster. There were some shitty maps that complicated things, but I'd still take those maps over World's any day.

sauce on the mod?

>Can you evade during the combo without getting locked into anything? That's THE defining feature of the SnS.
Not sure what you mean. Just look at the clip, perfect rush is a 3 attack combo, 3 timed presses while it charges up each step, but you can evade instead of doing the next attack. Unless you are complaining about the first attack being three hits, because you couldn't evade mid-swing anyways.

say what you want but it feels so clunky and unintuitive. The process of tracking down a monster in world is much much more engaging that wandering around on the first go around.

NEW FUCKING GAME WHEN? IM SO TIRED OF WORLD MECHANICS

[MHW] Female Monsters

NEVER EVER BINGNIGGER

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Because of World success, World will be getting expansion after expansion for years to come. World is printing money for Capcom.

Both Nerg and Kulve are absolutely horrible fights.

AT Nerg is a lot better than the normal one but time-gated and still shit with cheap dfifficulty that punishes you for not playing 100% safe for a second.

>WAAH CHEAP DIFFICULTY
>WAAH WHY AM I GETTING PUNISHED FOR OVEREXTENDING

>thinks we wont get 15 years of MHW core mechanics
Capcom is lazy as fuck. they pump out a bunch of great games than spend the next 20 years farming those IPs.
They are in the process of cultivating a re energized fan base.

Thanks Yea Forumsro

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Can you cancel the sheath from a Spirit Round Slash with the new Iai?

I don't see how going straight to the monster with no bullshit is clunkier than interacting with its droppings first so you can find it in a busy environment, but more power to you for enjoying something I can't.

Special sheathe is R2+X I believe.

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Yes, as well as go into it after a Spirit Helmbreaker.

dear lord the level of luck in this webm will never happen again. That is the perfect arena Tigrex pattern

LS is best weapon.
>trips monsters easier than hammer
>breaks parts better than GS
>once you get the meter up and the right arts
>you do massive damage
>GS users cry while i shred the monster before he gets 1 full chrage off

>Gore gets added
>it's a multi-phase fight like Behemoth
>if you don't deal enough DPS before a certain point, he sheds into Shagaru mid-fight

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Monster Hunter gained critical admiration and all the sales based on solely LR content and maybe a tiny bit of HR content
Difficulty is the last thing the playerbase actually wants, "make me suffer more" people are a tiny minority

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Nice, getting your shit back to red was always the unsafest time of play.

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Couldn't you check trophy/achievement statistics to see how far the playerbase got?

I have

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I didn't hunt any of the AT elders. None of their sets looked especially amazing and I knew G-Rank was coming eventually. Am I short changing myself? There's still time before Iceborne but I feel like it's just artificial difficulty, nothing special over the regular versions except you just can't get hit.

lets be honest here.
Tigrex is one of the easiest monsters since 4th gen. he is a complete joke in gen/genu.
his attacks are basic and very predictable. the power creep from arts/styles/mounting make him super easy to predict, counter, and punish. i really should go on the beta to see how much work they put in to him in world.

Unless you feel like not enough of your bones are broken then you're not missing much

The endgame armors will likely be viable through a chunk of master rank, but by the same token, you can just go make starter master rank armors and move on.

AT armor pieces are very popular when Drachen isn't invoked, especially so for bowgun sets wanting Spare Shot. Otherwise the fights vary in quality a lot.

If you go with postgame stuff, you'll probably be set for armor for a good while into MHWI unless they ramp up the defense very early in Master Rank.

they are nice to have.
you wont NEED em for Master Rank. just like the other games im assuming they will have it so as long as you have high rank gear from tier 2 monsters you will be fine to start Master rank. basically if you can beat Xeno Jiva you will be ready for the start of master rank.
that said if you were to farm ONE of the sets i would say go with Behemoths gear.

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kek

I'm going to say the P-word!

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I hope Alatreon ends up in Elder's Recess to throw you around like a headless chicken

boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/mary sue nerg*

Get some new material, furry. It's all so tiring.

i know i'm hours late, but gunlance got a new bomb gimmick where you can load slinger rounds into it to make a temporary point on a monster that will explode with every shell you shoot
gives gunlance an area to focus on rather than hitting anywhere they want

P[lesioth hitboxes?/spoiler]

P A R D

PE
PE
GA

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PECK

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It sad that this might be the last time nerg will remain relevant and disappear into obscurity when a new monster hunter mascot kept replacing each other. He wouldn't even leave the new world since by canon, he only hunt old or dying elder dragons that migrate to the new world, and he would probably get owned by a youngster-adult elder dragons outside the retirement home.

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>mfw Moxie
The fuck is a pepega

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>World finally gets a generic battle theme that's actually on par with most old ones
youtube.com/watch?v=oRl4e81fX9A

wait beta is up?

Jews
think about it.
>nose
>hides himself
>steals your shit
>and breaks your shit
he still my favourite Elder tho

For PS plus members

ugly, boring gimmick and i do not like his fight in general.
but he has nice weapons and armor

Not among my ice theme favorites yet, but It's nice to see a return to form. MHW's generic orchestra kicked most themes on the balls.

yes he was fun

that was the point u cuck fuck

>can consistently beat AT Nerg with the fucking hunting horn solo in under 20 minutes
>mfw reading this post

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based boo rad13y

It's honestly pretty boring fight. It's literally just one gimmick and once you learn how to deal with that he's just huge sponge of HP.
Still, at least he's a better fight than AT Teostra or Lunastra, those two fights can just fuck off.

Fight was cancer. Got my 5 tickets solo, never doing it again.

Beat him on my second try with the lance. Would have been easy first try kill if I had known that his slam can hit behind you and you need to super guard it.

Ichihara only handled the port job to the Switch. Ichinose is responsible for jet dragon.

Valstrax also was never given opportunity to shine outside of japan because Capcom botched XX's localization so hard and didn't even market its existence. It's a miracle it even became a top 10 best-selling 3rd party switch game.

Wow, rude

Nah.

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Oh yeah, this fucker's still going to be a thing

Honestly, who the fuck thought that this asshole was a good game mechanic? It's kinda funny for fist few times when he swoops in, but when you're doing AT hunts he's just annoying as fuck.

shut your whore mouth, basedgeuze is cool.

>when you're doing AT hunts
When did he ever appear in AT hunts? Other elders appear in those, not Basel.

>but when you're doing AT hunts
But he doesn't appear

What am I supposed to do after finishing the main story, farm in the base game for 100-200 hours? The DLC and event missions are way too hard and +100HR lobbies kick you out even with the 'Everyone is welcome!'

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It's been awhile since I played so maybe I remember it incorrectly. I just remember being really pissed off because the asshole kept showing up and interrupting fun fights with other monsters.

He doesn't show up in AT hunts, get your facts straight. And in any of the hunts he does appear, its free damage if you let him do his thing.

Unless you actually think you'll outdamage him. Judging by your posts so far, I don't think you will.

>The DLC and event missions are way too hard and +100HR lobbies kick you out even with the 'Everyone is welcome!'
Don't join lobbies, join SOS requests. If event quests are too hard you're not optimizing your equipment. Go do some tempered hunts with others and farm stuff.

>Not double teaming the shit out your target with the Bazelbro

I sometimes fantasize about a Monster Hunter style game but with giant pokemon instead of monsters.

Let me guess, you are one of those faggots who copy the max DPS meta builds from speed runners and think they are hot shit even though they can barely get their hunt times under 20min.

Farm until HR49, improve gear, then wait the summer festival to do all the events

youtube.com/watch?v=yF8SpugcybY

Take a shot every time he uses the crutch claw and you'll be too wasted to even care

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>tfw still haven't done ExBehemoth and Ancient Leshen

the game didn't have enough cool armor sets

If I was, would I be writing about letting Bazel do its thing? Are you braindead?

I still hate what they did to DB in World. They completely removed certain key moves from Gen4 for no fucking reason.

It's the newspeak word for retard because everyone is scared of saying retard now it became fashionable to virtue signal against the word.

Poor Tiggy

>Ancient Leshen
Need to do that guy as well, Summer Festival needs to come fast.