I think Carnage deserves his own game

Go read manga.

>being this butthurt about fucking Carnage
What are you, 12?

I actually like Carnage and hate manga, but like I said, there's not enough there for a main character. He's an excellent force-of-nature villain. You have to use the character properly.

You're the one butthurt

Maybe he'll be in Disney's Sony's Marvel's Spider-Man 2

I know nothing about carnage but you could play prototype I guess.

That is probably the closest thing to Carnage sim, but the prototype guy can do too much crazy shit and is comparatively squishy to Carnage.

Would love to see carnage in the next Spider-Man game.

Spider-Man could be fighting venom and then they’d be all like oh man who’s this guy and it would be carnage and they’d be all like oh noooo now we have to take down this new villain who is even more evil than meeeee.

Sequel when

Based

Make up a game for Carnage, ignore the shitposting.

If you could stay on topic that'd be lovely.

The only good thing about him is his design. Fuck Cletus.

Kill all of Venom's babies

separation anxiety.

?

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There are PLENTY of ways you can make Carnage interesting and have him be a protagonist of a good game.

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Yeah, a sequel to that when?

>protagonist
He's a bad guy.

Name one that doesn't involve turning Carnage into welfare Deadpool.

then list them

Who cares, he looks badass, that's all that matters

Do you know what protagonist means?

Or... You can do that.

>morbius is getting his own movie
>carnage is stuck in the venom sequel
>both have no Spider-Man

What’s the fucking point

Radical Entertainment got shut down. If Activision got a different studio to take on the project, it would probably just be a disappointment like Crackdown 3 or DMC: Devil May Cry.

No it isn't.

If you guys behave... You can have cake.

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>There are PLENTY of ways you can make Carnage interesting and have him be a protagonist of a good game.
this would imply that you have ideas for carnage games
i don't and i was wondering if you were trying to bait responses, or if you actually had ideas
so list them and prove your point

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Let me cool off first, then I'll list down a ton of examples, it'll take 5 minutes.

Superhero comic

I'm back now... I'm gonna list ideas.

user, you really don't know?

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Here is a list of ideas...

1.) Have a totally different origin story, make it into a game that has stages and a few mini games, have him tango with totally original bosses and the regular enemies can range from monsters and gangsters, you can collect health from a civilian passerby by draining their life force.

2.) Make the game based on the original comic book, but at the same time provide content that doesn't show in the panels, make it semi open world and give him "missions" that he can do, more than just simply killing people, he could sabotage shit, spread some chaos, get back at a foe etc.

3.) Make it into a first person game where it plays kinda like AVP meats Doom where you go around attacking civilians and spread panick in some sections and in the main game it's about stopping a corporation from making their own symbiote army.

4.) Turn it into a very comic book looking game where you're in a remote island and you learn skills and power ups and you slay through at first are normal guards then quickly become enhanced alien type beings.

5.) Make a 2D side scroller platforming hack and slash and make it so that way you can unlock certain areas during your playthrough and occasionally you can fight Venom or Spider-Man.

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What with sudden popularity of symbiote shit? Some degenerates were actually hyped for Venom movie. The fuck

>sudden

Sudden strike 3

Yeah, a sequel to Prototype when?

You still haven't addressed the part where Carnage is a shit character for twats.

Aww crap now I want to play all of them...

Not trying to be a dick but none of those sound good. Carnage works only as a one-dimensional villain. I don't mean that as an insult, I think it's one of Carnage's strengths -- he has no moral compass, no greater purpose, there's no reasoning with him, he's just a killer who got lucky and now has an unlimited capacity to kill. That's terrifying.

The key is to make a game where Carnage is the main antagonist, something like Maximum Carnage with Spidey and Venom teaming up to take Carnage down, with other Symbiotes falling in line beneath him to act as bosses. Make it similar to Spider-Man PS4 but with Venom obviously having his own power set instead of gadgets.

Then, when you beat the game, add Carnage as an unlockable playable character who has no restrictions and can murder anyone. If you want to be ambitious, make it its own story mode set from Carnage's perspective as he recruits Symbiotes and encounters Spidey and Venom, maybe with an alternate ending where Carnage wins. The problem is that to properly implement it you'd need to add some real violence which obviously modern publishers wouldn't want.

youtube.com/watch?v=eLXCY7Ws-lI
The new devolver game reminds me of him

He cute.

That's actually a good game idea.

>no cute girl NPCs to eat
weak

Is there any developers in here reading this stuff about wanting a Carnage game?

>I think it's one of Carnage's strengths -- he has no moral compass, no greater purpose, there's no reasoning with him, he's just a killer who got lucky and now has an unlimited capacity to kill. That's terrifying.
Yep.

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So wholesome.

truly a missed opportunity

Last time we had Carnage in a game was TASM2, and that was terrible.

This looks really bad

Think Carnage as being in GTA, except all bets are off and there are no limits.

I remember that one of the sequel concepts to Web of Shadows was a What If where you played as Venom against Spider-Carnage, who was causing an even worse version of the symbiote infection in Web of Shadows. The gameplay ideas for that concept got reused for [Prototype] by Activision, after Web of Shadows 2 got cancelled .

How very curious.

in Ultimate Spiderman Peter was Carnage in the last Venom mission for whatever reason

You think Carnage should get a girl friend?

A detective toxin game would probably be better, but I heard the host for toxin died off screen. Can any comicfag explain this.

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I picture Carnage eating some people sitting on a couch playing Maximum Carnage.

Maybe a game that scores in how many people killed and how violent and over the top you get with Carnage as protag, and there can be unlockable stages.

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With the option to choose a different symbiote after beating the game, and they can have an original campaign.

what comic book would be good to base a game off of for Carny boy?

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Jobbed offscreen and died in a gutter so they could make Toxin Eddie not-Venom again.

That sucks.

Can someone make a straw poll for this user's ideas?

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What worse is Eddie lost the toxin symbiot off screen so both sides of him are gone. Though the comic that showed Eddie with toxin didn’t implicitly state that pat died, so his original writer just stated that he retired with his wife somewhere outside nyc

>for whatever reason
Maybe that’s because THATS WHAT HAPPENS IN THE ULTIMATE COMIC SERIES YOU RETARD

Are there any drawfags in here?

Yeah, what you want?

Well, that sucks about Eddie losing Toxin. And despite the original writer saying that, we’ll probably never see him again.

He's not just a shallow Joker. He's physically stronger than almost every other individual hero/villain in the spiderman universe so he doesn't rely on memes and tricks to get shit done. The reason he's rarely used in modern Marvel games/movies is that he's too adult. There's no way to effectively portray Carnage without bumping the rating up to 18+ with tons of gore and violence.

Could you make a drawing as female Carnage pressing down on a person's back saying she wants to rip them to pieces?

You got a pose you want or you want me to make stuff up?

Make her slender but creepy AF like this

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It honestly surprises the hell out of me he hasn't been getting whored out in the movies at all yet. I mean I was always under the impression he was seen as really cool alternate to Venom. He even got a game based on him in the 90's for 4th gen consoles that I used to own. So what the hell are they waiting for?

Don't draw that. Draw Carnage in a chef outfit

I remember when Carnage infected some kids by poisoning the water supply with himself, and they tore apart their dad.

Carnage is such a boring one note "character".

He's not really Joker so much as evil Venom because at the time Venom became a good guy anti hero.

The real Joker Analogue would be Jackal.

I guess I can draw both...

bonus points if you make a shitty chef-related pun

That's what I was planning.

People forget he was a person before he was arrested.
He lived a life putting on an act, to hide his true self.

This is the personality he has.
he sees things differently than others, and doesnt care about anyone, unless its to hide himself, so he can keep killing.

Now, he gains the power to kill, w/o having to worry about hiding it.

He is going to get bored of just mindlessly killing.
He will want to find new ways to do it, and will most likely challenge himself, be it the largest number of people killed in a single attempt (not going to a place, and individually killing people one at a time, to get a large number of kills)
Or more complex methods, even including getting others to do it.

All of these are not very good for a main character.

Another genre of story telling with force of nature villians, are horror movies.
Which he fits the theme decently, but again, horror movies are best seen from the victims perspectives.

The player needs to be challenged, and this challenge loses its effectiveness as a narritive, if it doesnt feel like carnage cares about that challenge.
The only way to use this character, is to change him, so he's trying to hide his identity, playing closer to his human behaviors before being arrested.

no

Yes, make something up.

>All of these are not good for a main character.
To me it is, I'd love that.

One dimensional evil bad guys are top tier, you have shit taste
Not everything needs to be complex or deep, comics have always been popcorn media

Okay, coming right up.

I like that about comics.

let me clarify, i mean for a games main character. for a movie im fine with all of that.
in a game, u have to actually create those challenges, and present them to the player, and a sizable amount of players will just find it boring after a short while.
(It will just feel like fetch quests)

I never said they were bad as villains, im solely talking about playing a game from his perspective. its like playing the PS4 spiderman game, w/o missions, objectives or boss battles.
The PS4 game was already bare bones as it was, barely being good enough, taking some of its features out would tip it into being too boring.

I guess a better way to look at it, is if you played GTA, but didnt have cars at all. Just running around and punching people.
You have fun for an hour or less, and u never play the game again.

Thank you.

It's more comparable to Prototype or that Hulk game by the same devs. The appeal would be in a sandbox where you can trash everything and go on a power trip. He could still unlock new powers, maybe some kind of xp/skill tree based around collecting blood. I'm sure a lot of people would be hyped about an experience like that. Crackdown had very little incentive to do anything either, but it was still fun.

Could it perhaps have some different elements in the Carnage game other than some Prototype-like game?

No only do the chef one

I am doing everyone's.

He has loads of potential for a sandbox game, but yeah he could do. He could even glide/fly or equip a variety of melee weapons.
>Carnage can launch parts of his symbiote at enemies in the form of solid weapons such as darts, spears, knives, axes, etc., although they disintegrate into dust within ten seconds of leaving Carnage's body. Carnage also has the unique ability to warp his appendages into different arms, legs, and even wings. This is shown on several occasions when Carnage mutates his fingers and arms into what look like large swords.

Did I ask

you're not the boss.

I decided to not do the chef one.

It woupd only be interesting if they played up the recent lovecraft angle carnage series. Otherwise its just lol I am crazy and going to kill people.

Carnage as a harbinger of an eldritch god whose power is being hunted by cults, governments, maogc fags and D list super hero jobbers was the only interesting take the character ever had.

Carnage is a girl lol

Boring

Honestly. I want a genuine answer. What IS so wrong about a villain with shallow motivations from time to time? Does every villain have to be poetic? Do non-poetic, simple characters are always automatically shit?

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superhero comics are such shit

i like spider-man (in a very secondary way) but having to read every title to follow a story is fucking shit

also maximum carnage had very good music and stole some black sabbath songs

Did I ask

People these days expect their villains to have Freudian excuses or to have some aspect that makes them more agreeable than the heroes. One note, two dimensional villains aren't "in" anymore.

>you play as spiderman but this time instead of killing enemies by knocking them out you kill enemies by killing them and there's gore
I don't think such violence would sell well on a so-nygger console.

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I disagree, it can be done...

Any other draw requests?

Carnage Doc Oc.

okay what you want for it?

Okay I guess I'll make up something...

no u

Protagonist means main character. Doesn't necessarily mean he's the hero or a good guy, just that he's the main character we follow.

There is, it’s called prototype

I like retarded 1-D villains sometimes. DIO is fun. Making all villains sympathetic is annoying.

Nothing, It just makes them hard to create a meaningful character out of them other than just making them an obstacle to get over. The only really interesting thing about a one dimensional villain is finding out what crazy idea they come up with next. It just gets old, like how every other zombie story is pretty much the same story,different characters.

So making an entire story focused around them being the protagonist, is kinda difficult because now you have to make them compelling enough to follow or constantly outdo themselves.

You could add shit to their backstory or whatever, but then people will get upset that they act nothing like they were, so now you have to commit to whatever you made and hope it catches on and people accept that its part of the character now.

this isn't lego batman. why would they give us this instead of a spiderman or even a venom game?

Well it works wonderfully in DMC...

Nothing.
But it doesn't make for a good main character because he can't grow or change without essentially ruining the character.

Nothing. I love simple villains, I'm tired of people trying to make sympathetic villains. Just makes me hate them more.
>woe is me, bad stuff happened to me so im going to be a bad guy
Yawn. Bad shit happens all the time, you're not special, get over yourself.

Let's make an entirely new genre for him.

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Not enough symbiotes in games.

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> his

you zoomers have no clue, seriously
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he was a psychopath who got superpowers. I dont need more honeslty

What does that mean?

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It's not really because he's shallow. Green Goblin is usually written shallow, but fun.
Carnage is just 90s to a tee. He has all the powers of the protagonist
BUT HE'S CRAZY
AND HE'S EVIL
AND HE'S COLORED RED / BLACK
AND HE DOES LOTS OF CRAZY STUFF
AND HE KILLS KIDS
AND DID WE MENTION HIS NAME IS (Insert some name which is a derivative of violence, blood, murder, gore, or anger here)

Carnage is genderless

monster ock was so cool, those screams as he charges you down were spooky

D-- d-- d-- Yeah whatever....

And all of that is good reasons why Carnage is awesome and I like him.

you just explained why he's such a great character
rule of cool is always top priority and it's fantastic

Cletus Cassidy.

Yes I'm sure you're a fan of most shitty 90s villains that are all rehashed off of each other.
The reason why green goblin works and carnage doesn't
>Unique look
>unique powers
>unique tools
>unique twist of batshit crazy

Carnage is
>skinny red venom
>venom powers but stronger
>literally nothing venom doesn't have
>just the typical insane asylum mass murderer style villain

Carnage is boring. An 11 year old could, and probably did, design him.

You wouldn't make a story where the protagonist is a hurricane, or a volcano, or a bolt of lightning.
But you can center a story about the effects of a hurricane or volcano or a lightning storm.

*Cletus Kasady

Do you like have zero style?

Venom is stylish
Carnage is not, and neither are any of the other boring 90s symbiotes

Why?

he's venom but cuhrayzee
he's venom but stronger
he's venom but actually bad instead of some shitty antihero they occasionally try
he straight up kills people, in marvel comic series
he's rarely seen because he's too violent and edgy for kids/teens
green goblin is just a dude in a halloween costume on a hoverboard, he's babby tier compared to carnage

shit taste you got there...

Because Venom (eddie brock specifically, since he's always been the bar that's been set and always finds his way back to the role) has
>a unique personality
>unique motivations
>unique dynamic with Peter, both the symbiote and Eddie himself
>Spider-man's powers + some, but less finesse and expertise, also with a crucial weakness
>Isn't one dimensional. If he kills, there's usually some justification for it, and sometimes he'll be the hero if needed

He's barely seen because he's unpopular due to how plain jane and boring he is like all the other 90s villains. The only reason he even lasted is because of being similar to Venom, who everyone prefers.
Green Goblin is essentially the antithesis to Spider-Man in a more indirect level. With great power he only cares about himself, fuck responsibility etc. He's a fun villain for spider-man to go up against rather than "stronger venom who has no motivation and is just beaten by something sound related anyway!"