There are obvious solutions in the game that the story wont use

Even Boromir's catapult idea makes more sense that using the Eagles to deliver the ring to Sauron

>ask Eagle to be your taxi service
>Eagle, being proud and powerful, tells you to fuck off
>now Eagle won't help you later when you ask him to save your buddies on an exploding mountain because you were a dick to him earlier

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So the Eagles are basically the Americans in the story? Makes sense when you think about it. They only come in at the end of the war, grab all the credit without doing anything and be proud for no reason.

>hurr hurr let's just waltz into the enemy base and pretend they wouldn't do anything about it.
Why didn't the Allies just drop paratroopers into Germany to assassinate Hitler? The war would have been over in Week 1.

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not when crossing over territory.
Eagles dealing with high winds and freezing temperatures while a bunch of Minions patrolling the skies makes you stand out waay too much.

maybe that eagle should eagaload of dick

They didn't give a shit about anything until they realized that oh shit, our world is decided by this final battle, so then they start fighting and helping with the rescue.

>i'm totally not like tolkien
>decides to make a video game with fromsoftware that's called elden ring, a title centered around a ring like object and beating a big bad

>Frodo writes the Lord of the Rings, Bilbo writes The Hobbit
>Jon Snow and cohorts write the Song of Ice and Fire

What game is this from? And was there a Nazgul on that felbeast?

dont sauron and his boys have like, flying wyrms or something? makes sense to not throw eagles at that

Fly around the mountain then.

this is interesting. Then why is he so popular? Is it because of his use of plot twists?

I just re-read the books, and honestly I'm very surprised that the Warner Brothers games depicting orcs as more than just snarling animals is actually fairly accurate to the story. Turns out they can talk and throw banter with each other.
Still weird as hell that a higher spirit like Sauron with great magical power and an elite squad of vaguely immortal ghost-kings uses those unwashed cunts and the men from the east and south as footsoldiers though. It's too... mundane.

>Then why is he so popular?
Popularity doesn't always mean quality.

The Eagles are not eagles they just take that form they're actually spirits like Gandalf. They can get corrupted if they go to Mordor. I guess they just said fuck it at the last part of Return of the King.

you got those swarm of bats. Now try flying around you with a swarm of evil or murder of evil crows too small to take out individually and uneven moving ground to use an AOE in the sky.

Because he kills off characters willy nilly and that makes people think his writing is mature and realistic

It is because USA is the dominant culture and so American authors get the most notoriety. American literature is fucking dogshit puke garbage compared to 1800 English or Russian literature. Time will sort out the good from the bad. People 200 years ago thought Charles Dickens was terrible because he wrote about lowborne everyday people. Now he is recognized as a great author.

I know that, but popularity does have some quality to it, even when its not good quality.

This. Listen to any interview with him and he always brings up how he wished Gandalf would stay dead. He is so fixated about Gandalf returning that he incorporated the idea of killing character into his own works. Yet he missed the point about Gandalf essentially being an Angel made from the Gods themselves. Gandalf is not really a person like Aragorn or Frodo. He more like a robot if anything.

Eagles are faster than bats

What's so outrageously wrong about the second line?

Tolkienfag here.
Those eagles are immortal beings created by Manwë. Their job is to observe, they don't give two fucks about Morgoth nor Sauron. Sauron wasn't Valinor's problem, that's why the eagles never did anything.

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As someone who plays video games you surely must know that quality is a pretty weak factor in calculating how popular something will become, as long as its not below a certain threshold of obviously broken or hideous.

Why do you want to understand people who like to eat shit all day and say its ok because it kinda tastes like the brisket the dude ate the day before?

Gandalf (Olórin) is a maiar, a spirit created by Iluvatar, like an Ainur but less powerful.

What the fuck are you on about? The Eagles are exactly that, Giant fucking eagles.

>read the books when young
>Thinks, Boromir is just generally unpleasant and the worst
>read the books as an adult
>Boromir is the best fucking character and it's just sad the way the books later hammer that he never had a chance and was just not as good as Faramir

War in the North, and yes.

>like an Ainur but less powerful
Valar, not Ainur.

>play through it
>do the lazy follow the prompts thing like any other game
>get an ending
>play it again with 2 other friends months later
>get to the same prompt
>see the boss is still taking damage
>start shouting at my friends to not select that prompt
>it actually works
Fuck, I am sure war in the north is not good enough to justify it but I really want to play it a third time now.

Good prose is like good graphics. Ultimately optional past a very basic point as long as the rest is interesting.

YOU DIDN'T READ THE BOOKS

>comparing some genre fiction writer to literally the best writers in human history
Whoa, how can people so intellectually dishonest

Are the Histories actually worth reading? I tried to read the first one but it was boring.

These are just butt mad faggots. Yea Forums hates anything popular

>Those eagles are immortal beings

No they aren't.
Eventually, Tolkien decided that the Great Eagles were animals that had been "taught language by the Valar, and raised to a higher level — but they still had no fëar."[15]

Sauron is a giant eye and Mordor is desolate, he would see the eagles with ease before they even entered his territory. If he gets the ring it's immediately game over for all of Middle Earth, so letting Frodo handle the ring was the safest option.

fucking plebeian plotfag

Why didn't tolkien just make the eagles leave earlier in the story? Maybe a couple come back from the west because eru told them to just to retrieve sam and frodo. It's always bothered me.

>Sauron is a giant eye
Fuck Jackson for this shit.

Eagles would have easily been seen by the Eye of Sauron then attacked enmasse by dragons there destroyed your dumb "plot hole".

CHERRY-PICKING
ASSHOLE!

they didn't know moria was that fucked up before they got there

but books arent video games. Thats why I look at books as a different medium. When you look at games you have too look at more than visuals you need to try the game play. Books you have to read and see how the wordsmith smithies.

not evil magic fueld bats.

reminder that this nigga killed a fellbeast in one shot

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World building, character development, general narrative. Good writing doesn't only equal having an impressive vocabulary. I'm not fond of ASOIAF personally, and I do dislike his writing style, but I don't have the delusion of thinking my dislike makes his writing bad.

>~

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>World building, character development, general narrative
You’ve GOT to be joking...

His “worldbuilding” is some of THE most cliched fantasy shit I’ve ever seen
>dude forest elves
>ice zombies
>duuuude it’s basically the mongols
>port city with a giant collossus
>Valyria is literally Rome + Pompeii but with magical shit

Fucking LoZ is way more imaginative than GRRM. And he gets totally outshined by all of his contemporaries.

And Eowyn decapitated one, so they're obviously not that impressive.

They're nothing special, definitely not as powerful as dragons. The dangerous part is the Nazgul on its back, but apparently they can be killed by grammatical errors so whatever

Well, yes, but before coming to Arda they were ainur.
If you really want to know everything, the books are extremely detailed. If you don't, just read The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, Beren and Luthien, The Fall of Gondolin and The Children of Hurin.

>grab all the credit without doing anything
Euro education

It's weird, one of the most powerful of the elven lords teaming up with a wizard to throw a river and a rockslide at them doesn't really hurt them at all, meanwhile a completely mundane girl with a completely mundane sword manages to kill the strongest of them permanently.

>People pretending a fantasy novel has amazing writing
>Comparing him to Charles Dickens, George Orwell, and the like
He doesn't write literature, he writes lecture. People are not praising Stephen King for his amazing sentences and writing. They praise him for his stories. 'It' isn't a literature genius, but it's a great book.

>those are the most famous lines in asoiaf
Sounds more like cherrypicked to me

Then they would have been spotted and Sauron would have known what was up. The trick was to do the unimaginable to fool Sauron.

>but books arent video games
It affects every medium you fucken dolt

i think its because of the details he puts into the world building and leaves things like magic and other shit a mystery. Its hackish but I will admit I enjoy it.

They simply wouldn’t do it

Yes

The Gods are also just angels

videogames

Faulkner is an amazing writer though, so was Melville and many other famous American authors

>is
I mean was, this isn’t the 50’s

Something something courage overcoming the nazgul's most powerful weapon, fear

The difference between books and games is that you have to be intelligent to write good prose, while you have to have a lot of money to make a good game.

Also, in these books the artistic meaning and the form of the books are heavily intertwined so yes the prose is part of the ‘meat’ of the book’s quality.

>good game.
Good looking

Every one here should read William Blake, he was the OG solo myth maker

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Not him, and I’m not saying there are no good american artists, but mutts do constantly fellate american artists and give them orders of magnitude more praise than they deserve.
American painters are praised to high heavens by mutts when 9 outer of 10 are nothing but glorified commercial illustrators painting billboard ads all their life.

>leaves things like magic and other shit a mystery
This is literally every low magic fantasy setting, do you even read?

Did the eagles have any tax policies?

We don't know what Elden Ring is about yet exactly aside from the fact that it seems like there is an artifact called the Elden Ring seemingly responsible for shaping life and that it has been destroyed. That has absolutely nothing in common with LotR besides having a ring artifact.

Tolkien claims to have translated The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings from the Red Book of Westmarch which was written by Bilbo and Frodo Baggins (with contributions from Samwise Gamgee). In the ASoIaF, Archmaester Ebrose is drafting a manuscript chronicling The War of the Five Kings and there's a nod to the possibility of Samwell Tarly penning a similar history in the future. However, it would be impossible for him to write the story the way it has been presented so far or even be privy to all the events and information therein because ASoIaF is written using PoV perspectives.

Lmao and what makes you think that Dickens is actually good and not just shit that persisted while the truly great works have been forgotten? Have you actually read enough of 1800 English and Russian literature to be able to form an opinion on those time periods as a whole or did you just read the prescribed canon works? Maybe you actually don't know how to recognize greatness and instead just regurgitate whatever shit you picked up in an introductory lit class and that's why you can't find anything of value in modern literature