ITT: philosophy in video games
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Trees fight each other for space and sometimes even use toxins to remove competition, though.
Goddamn that's an awful font to read
That's just fighting though. Living things always fight for survival. Only humans wage war.
>The mysteries of the world are to cherish, more than to solve.I am just one of their many protectors.
And chimps
>Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference. The degreee is arbitary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one evil and another… I’d rather not choose at all
It's not that bad.
>there were people transformed into trees
>that one with 3 people standing on each other where if the player doesnt help one of them will fall into the river(or something) and fucking dies with the other 2 people feeling sorry for the lost one when they get back to human form
Thankfully there's a hack that fixes the character spacing.
this fucked got me fucked up, looking back on it, it was just a weird edgy thing but the background music and slowly noticing that the "enemy" is a mesh of other monsters you've already seen had me fucked.
dang
Bump
You can't hug your children with nuclear arms
Not with that attitude.
深すぎ。。。。。。。
Everything, Bubsonton. Absolutely everything.
Not him but that hack triggers my 'tism because it just pushes all the text to the side
My text boxes need to be filled
>Here we go again
name a more poignant line from anything
>Punching a child is as bad as torturing ten children
thats the point
you think they are two different levels of evil so to you it is better to do one than the other
but in reality they are just as bad as eachother and so you shouldn't do either
The "If I’m to choose" implies that a choice must be made.
i liked ff12's princess slowly learning that revenge nuking people with a bigger big rock because they nuked you with a big rock is a shit idea, diplomacy reigning true always nice
>as long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is gonna want someone dead
well that's why they call it philosophy man
it has to do with how you think about things
dude steals food for his starving family right?
did he break the law?
is it worse to have starving kids than to steal?
you might say one is greater than the other
but with this other philosophy they are equal, so if they are equal and we dont want evils in our world, should we not get rid of both problems?
how do we do that? well arresting the guy is gonna solve the stealing problem, since he will be arrested and unable to steal further but that doesn't affect the starving problem
so if we had more food at cheaper prices or better employment rates or etc. then maybe we can stop the man from stealing and the kids from starving
if one were greater than the other then we could say no man let him go, kids starving is way worse and we say ok and then give them more food
what if he steals again, now being emboldened through the community? what if his kids see how easy it is to take advantage of others and they become even worse criminals?
>i liked ff12's princess slowly learning that revenge nuking people with a bigger big rock because they nuked you with a big rock is a shit idea,
They didn't nuke anybody with a big rock. Dalmasca remained untouched and according to Ultimania, Nabradia apparently nuked itself when it collapsed into a civil war.
and ants
just because you shouldn't do either does not mean they're the same
what kind of dumb thinking is that
>physically punishing the children is bad
The only reason this world has turned to shit.
i thought nabradia got merked by bad science for some empire plot, but the whole point of the game is that everyone was being played by the bored occuria anyways so the point still stands, the occuria hand out the big rocks of death just so they kill eachother, think they said they've manipulated hundreds of civilisations into offing themselves
salsa?
>Makes no difference
That's such a brainlet statement, by that definition you're guilty of every murder ever made in the world in your lifetime becouse you didn't stop the killer with your baby arms the moment you came out of your mother's pussy, its bullshit
Pretty sure it was from this: vndb.org
Reposting the legend
Straton of Stageira, On Beginnings (Fragment)
It is the grave error of many philosophers, not only of the Athenian schools but also of many others, that they begin not with observation of the cosmos as it surrounds us, but with a conclusion already in mind; and often that conclusion is that the world was created ideal, and mankind itself the greatest creation of the gods. Yet neither the world nor the gods owe mankind perfection; it is arrogance itself to presume so, and contrary to all the methods of philosophy. The honest philosopher seeks only the Truth, even if it bears no comfort; and he must begin by assuming, as Socrates said, that all he knows is that he knows nothing.
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What game? Sounds based af.
>doesn't know about plant warfare
>silent beneath the ground a merciless chemical war rages between the roots.
>above ground it's a race for territorial control to acquire more sunlight and feed the war machine
nature is eternal struggle for dominance
pretty sure that's FF Tactics
Axl is best boy
Excerpt: The Invention of Borders, by Fatimah Nguyen
"What today's nationalists and neosegregationists fail to understand," Kwame said, "is that the basis of every human culture is, and always has been, synthesis. No civilization is authentic, monolithic, pure; the exact opposite is true. Look at your average Western nation: its numbers Arabic, its alphabet Latin, its religion Levantine, its philosophy Greek… need I continue? And each of these examples can itself be broken down further: the Romans got their alphabet from the Greeks, who created theirs by stealing from the Phoenicians, and so on. Our myths and religions, too, are syncretic - sharing, repeating and adapting a large variety of elements to suit their needs. Even the language of our creation, the DNA itself, is impure, defined by a history of amalgamation: not only between nations, but even between different human species!"
>:(
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Algus did nothing wrong.
Wow, what a bunch of horseshit.
In Man (as the only rational creature on Earth), those natural predispositions which are intended for the use of his reason, should be completely developed only in the species, not in the individual.
Reason in a creature is a faculty for extending the rules and purposes of the use of its powers far beyond natural instinct, and knows no limits in its designs. Yet it does not act according to instinct, but requires trials, practice and instruction, in order to progress from one degree of insight to the next.
Therefore each human would have to live excessively long in order to learn how he could make full use of his natural capacities; or, if Nature had given him only a short term of life (as she indeed has), so she would require a perhaps unpredictable series of generations, each passing its enlightenment to the next, to finally develop her seeds in our species to the degree that she considers appropriate.
And that point in time must be, at least as an idea, the goal of man's efforts, for otherwise his natural capacities would have to be regarded as largely meaningless
Why?
This image is too fucking small.
Retarded phoneposter
With art you can reach new heights ;^)
I don't feel like getting /pol/itical. Thread's too comfy.
The joke is that xelpud was only acting high and mighty from getting rich, simce he fell back to videogames as soon as he went broke.
>implying 90% of players even got past Level 2
You know, I got my /pol/ side, but I think the piece is inherrently correct.
Sometimes I dream of a dating sim with anime girl philosophers in a school setting. Philosophers of old (ancient Greece, China) are teachers, school nurses etc. Middle Ages philosophers are senior students, and modern philosophers like Foucault et al are dorky chuuni juniors.
You're an awful person to read.
It was relatively easier than the first game though.
Man is a Meme
What? Don’t you have a phone?
Consider the impasse of a one-God universe. He is all-knowing and all-powerful. He can't go anywhere, since He is already everywhere. He can't do anything, since the act of doing presupposes opposition. His universe is irrevocably thermodynamic, having no friction by definition. So, He has to create friction: War, Fear, Sickness, Death, to keep his dying show on the road.
It looks kinda like a false analogy.
A bureau operates on opposite principles of inventing needs to justify its existence.) Bureaucracy is wrong as a cancer, a turning away from the human evolutionary direction of infinite potentials and differentiation and independent spontaneous action to the complete parasitism of a virus. (It is thought that the virus is a degeneration from more complex life-form. It may at one time have been capable of independent life. Now has fallen to the borderline between living and dead matter. It can exhibit living qualities only in a host, by using the life of another — the renunciation of life itself, a falling towards inorganic, inflexible machine, towards dead matter.) Bureaus die when the structure of the state collapse. They are as helpless and unfit for independent existence as a displaced tapeworm, or a virus that has killed the host.
>simce he fell back to videogames as soon as he went broke.
He would've done that, but in his showboating while rich he gave away all his videogames.
Like many people who have nothing to do, he was very resentful of any claims on his time. He had no close friends. He disliked definite appointments. He did not like to feel that anybody expected anything from him. He wanted, so far as possible, to live without external pressure
You are a Shit Spotter. It's satisfying work. … We have observed that most of the trouble in the world has been caused by ten to twenty percent of folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus. Now your virus is an obligate cellular parasite and my contention is that evil is quite literally a virus parasite occupying a certain brain area which we may term the RIGHT center. The mark of a basic shit is that he has to be right. And right here we must make a diagnostic distinction between the hard-core virus-occupied shit and a plain, ordinary, mean no-good son of a bitch. Some of these sons of bitches don't cause any trouble at all, just want to be left alone.
it's always funny when humans try to use their flawed, biased logic and language to judge the divine. God doesn't need to create anything because he already is everything, all';s right with the world.
I laughed
Its not reallt an accusarion of God's flaws its more lf a reason why a one God universe would irrevocably have friction. A psychedelic and existential way to understand friction must be part of any divine plan that has motion
It's a bit complicated. Before the war, Nabradia was embroiled in an internal conflict between the standing governments and the pro-Rozarrian faction that wanted to make Nabradia a Rozarrian protectorate. This conflict eventually collapsed into a civil war and the pro-Rozarrian faction used the opportunity to invite Rozarrian army to occupy them. This pissed off Archadia, which really didn't want its enemy no.1 right at its borders. So Archadia invaded, crushed all Nabradian factions and Rozarrians, and Nabradia then nuked itself when it tried to use the rock, which Archadia tried to confiscate for science.
You are indeed correct that people will always strive to understand why there is evil in their lifes, but I still feel that Burroughs sounds somewhat salty in this quote, not realising it is his own imperfection reflecting back at him from the mirror. Cheers, friend, thanks for helping me get of my high horse in any case.
>Come on, just let me cripple you again you big baby!
Burroughs is definitely a salty person, being a world weary ex-junkie, but here I feel like he's attempting to sympathize with God in good Faith
>whether it be spanking or castration...
I-I want to be punished.
Is there any of you weebs who unironically enjoy getting your balls hurt and similars or are you one of those ironic subs who suddenly back off when they have a real opportunity to be treated as masochists?
Anytime it happens you all start to think "what the fuck am I doing with my life" and run away for fucks sake.
Based
Can't really speak for the others, but I like some pain and have inflicted on myself. That said, I prefer psychological torture than physical.
They are the same in the relevant way, which is whether or not they should be done.
Neither should be done.
People don’t change. They just become more of who they really were.
I think the quote is trying to imply that sometimes you don’t have to choose between two evils. There is an option to do no evil even if it may not seem obvious.
>I like to have consensual sex
WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH RANCE?
come to me. come to me, but unmasked sons of bitches
>In philosophy
>Professor asks me about the concept of evil
>Put on the spot, start panicking but remember a certain quote from Witcher 3
>"Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference. The degreee is arbitary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one evil and another… I’d rather not choose at all"
>Professor looks stunned, class gives me a round of applause
I'm actually reading the Witcher books right now.
They're so bad.
And if we're to follow user's philosophy, we shouldn't punish the thief at all because all punishment can be placed on the scale of evil. But then he and other thieves know that they can get away with it, and more thefts will happen.
I think I finally understand what people mean when they say that the nature of humanity is evil.
Why was Golden Sun such a piece of shit
It's not a joke. Naramura talked in the backer updates that the theme behind the returning NPCs was "mother-loss syndrome", a sense of depression and loss of purposes imparted onto the 7th children after the death of the Mother.
Hippie ideologies can only develop from a place of misguided ignorance.
IWAE
True. It's also not as hard as it seems.
I quite like the first two short-story compilations. They're nothing spectacular but I'm a sucker for loosely connected short-stories for whatever reason so it still scratches an itch.
Abysmal writing. So many text boxes.
Is it commonly known among fans how bad the books actually are?
I know Razorfist accuses the author of plagiarism but I've heard nothing else bad about the books themselves.
I highly doubt most people who like the games have ever bothered with the books.
Almost made it worth replaying the game again
this was not philosophy just too real
Xenogears
what the fuck is this
Notice these leftist anti-war tabula rasa quotes are all from western games.
It's flowery, but it's still frailist. Buddhist teachings are more honest about the duality of violence and force and when it is necessary to use it.
Pathologic 2 is cheating tho
source for research purposes please
Too easy and an overabundance of words, a shame really because the class system is really cool, which in itself makes it a nice game to me.
gs reloaded with fast forward/autofire is the only right way to play.
Shit I forgot about that. I'll look into it, thanks user.
That is exactly what happened. Did used Zecht to test the nethicite by nuking Nabradia. The other guy replying to you is an idiot.
Marche did nothing wrong but he was still a dick.
Someone post the color splash shy guy
>tfw a villain uses this to justify his wrong doings
>That's just fighting though. Living things always fight for survival. Only humans wage war.
War is just fighting. Trees fight for limitless territorial domination and have no problem eliminating other trees to do so. Even grass made some ancient plants extinct.
>Cannot even debate a peasant woman
The state of this sad sack of shit.
>proceeds to turn himself into a bullet to kill the enemy
Absolute fuckin kino
> Ants
> Meerkats
You know what, no, I'm not making a big Wikipedia list of animals that wage war, let me just sum it up: Your assertion that only humans wage war is wrong.