Thoughts? How long before they start censoring games too?

Thoughts? How long before they start censoring games too?

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Bullshit. I'm a total dick and have skirted punishment every single time. This is PR if anything

Games have always been censored, at the very least by the ESRB

PC is the last bastion of hope in these times of withering darkness.

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Sony has really given Xbox the next console generation on a silver platter with their shitty movie games and censorship. All Xbox needs to do is not be fucking stupid and they'll beat the PS5. But nope, they have to pull this shit too.

sorry you cant say the n-word anymore incels

You're free to be a massive cunt to anyone and for as long as you want. Explicitly calling someone a nigger/faggot/tranny is where they draw the line though.

Also this

Can't wait for someone to claim its part of there religous beliefs I'm sure that won't casue any problems. Also
>misogny is one of there big problems
wow how sexist

That wasn't censorship, but a rating disclaimer. The only real impact was that games tried to avoid falling in the Adult Only rating to ensure sales.

reminder 'take' is a verb
therefore to 'take offense' ie. be 'offended' is an action on your part, and absolutely your choice to make

you don't pick a knife up and stab yourself with it when someone throws it at your feet, so why should you stab yourself with words?

Xbox doesn't have a monopoly over the console market and in any case, their first amendment right to choose which speech they promote supersedes any antitrust laws.

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No

No, retard, anti-trust laws exist to break up monopolies. Like Comcast or AT&T or Walmart - companies that make competition impossible.

Enforcing a code of conduct on a private voip service has nothing to do with monopolies

1st Amendment

aren't they discriminating? how is protecting women as a whole not fucking with the other 70% of there market?

can't censor games when you don't have any games in the first place.

Administrating chat platforms has been a thing forever. Why are people suddenly pretending like this is a big deal?

They don't get any Jap games to censor so it's a non-issue.

>their first amendment right
Didn't know a public-traded mega corporation had first amendment rights. Fascinating. Do tell me more.

Well, at least don't go full retard and try to solve everything with banhammers.

>freeze peach means I can yell nigger at chuck e cheese and they can't ask me to leave

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>Private company's service
>Vs United States Bill of Rights in regard to government censorship against criticism
It's 20 fucking 19 and you retards STILL think companies who have TSAs with their customers and Public Image to uphold, somehow have to answer to papa gub'ment in regard to THEIR own forums censorship (which we're all forgetting is completely optional and in no way essential or mandatory to everyday life and communication)?

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Because SJWs don't use things such as mute, kicking for some minutes or similar.
When you say a no no word, expect permanent ban.

I've never been been mean to anyone in an online game, am I missing out?

They got every right to do it. Just don't act surprised when people literally stop talking to each other. Talking shit is half the fun in online games imo, when you start restricting my ability to talk shit to my opponents or shitty teammates I end up losing interest quick because it just becomes a single player game to me at that point.

There are 10000 other ways to shit on someone that don't involve calling them faggot or nigger. If you apply yourselves, it doesn't matter what they do.

Yeah thank god we'll have the open freedom of the Epic Games Store to protect us from censorship.

I don't care about niggers, I just like getting zoomers banned.

Free speech SPECIFICALLY prevents government from making laws that infringe on free speech.
Go back to school

Good.

The reason I didn't do too much online gaming in 2003 - 2015 is because of the racists.

Come on, as if gamers do fucking anything other than buying and consuming products

>It's illegal to come in third place

Can chuck e cheese send the officers to violently remove you from the location because you misgendered someone, anyone inside it, even if by accident?

Antitrust is based on the premise of competition. At best, you could maybe allow a third party online service, like what Nintendo does for Fortnite.
It's just very hard to legislate, otherwise we probably wouldn't still have issues like game exclusivity and locked operating systems
False equivalency. Getting banned from an online service invalidates previous purchases, while getting banned from chuck e cheese just means you aren't allowed to buy anything there later, if they actually went that far.

I dont see the problem with faggot but people shouldn't say nigger

Do microsoft censor games? I dont even think they make many fanservice games that would need censoring unlike what sony does

You're both retarded, him for saying the 1st amendment "trumps" antitrust laws and you for not knowing about Citizens United (companies are people with rights, money is speech, therefore companies can give as much money as they want to politicians)

I'll answer your question when xbox becomes relevant again.

I think Phil needs to lay off the pizza.

Maybe your heritage has determined your opinion.

>company's restrict people's ability to vent and let out anger online
>Those people now have no where to go but the real world
>Real world violence raises as a result
Ahahhaahh this is gonna be a fun few years!

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What's the mean?

Is it so hard to not say nigger?

>fucking retard can't argue worth a damn
>uses twitter speech and south park memes
P O T T E R Y
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Censorship means you're not allowed to publish your artistic vision.
As far as I'm concerned, no game has ever been censored by the ESRB system. They just get a label, but they can include the materials they want, whether retailers will sell it is a different issue.
Censorship is for example what happened with C&C Generals in the German release.

You'd think there would be devs out there that would want an AO rating. It worked out great for Hatred. Dunno why this isn't a common thing yet. And no Cero Z doesn't count before anyone tries to bring that bullshit up.

It would be nice if the people on chat actually tried to coordinate and win instead of making small talk and ignoring the match.
This is the major problem. There are plenty of ways of getting people you don't like online away from you, but they never take them.

I called you a nigger.

Not all games are on DRM platforms.
Casul.

Can your phone company censor speech? No that's illegal in the US. Utilities behave like monopolies and so they're not allowed to police speech.

If they're publishers, that's a different story but Microsoft isn't just publishing games.

...noooooigger...

The only solution is the nationalization of all online gaming services.

Not saying nigger is easy, not saying "hey dude" to a trans that sounds exactly like a guy, not so much.
And you get permabanned for that if the server is controlled by SJWs.

Whats with this weak strawman that the only reason they'll ban you if you say racial slurs. It's 2019 bud, you can get banned for the most mundane shit.

>Getting banned from an online service invalidates previous purchase
This. Deplatforming people of a service they bought things with that are restricted to that platform is scamming.

Switch is already doing it too, we’re not safe anywhere

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Microsoft isn't a trust.
Anti-trust laws might get companies like twitter, google, facebook, comcast, and time warner, but Microsoft is in competition with other brands for pretty much all of their services while the above companies are not.

It has arguably been harder to not say nigger now than any time in gaming history. If you go into one of the few games that do not have the matchmaking run by the company, like Mordhau, and call someone a nigger, the meltdown will last literal weeks across multiple platforms. Zoomers cannot comprehend that someone can type what they want in chat and not have their game taken away by a corporation. Nobody can resist getting that kind of reaction for so little effort.

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>only make money from online services
>start censoring an banning your online service customers
never go full-retard.

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You agreed to allow them to kick you out when you signed the EULA.

I don't know jack shit about crap.
Not only am I Eurotrash, my country is yet another commie shithole that wasn't founded on the basis of free-market.
So legal precedence of a country that isn't a complete slave to German and Chinese imports doesn't apply to my reality.

Oh I just made myself sad.

i hope this unironically happens

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I'm not a nigger, I'm just saying faggot is a term of endearment while nigger is an insult. You know what I mean my faggot?

Yeah, what the western world needs is more leftism

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>I-it's not the same
Yes it is.
>you lose purchases!
No, that almost never happens for coc violations. They still want you to buy shit, just muted or in a containment queue. Total account shutdowns are reserved for things like identity fraud.

Of course, refusing to allow access to their service entirely is well within their rights.

>this retard again

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I don't think that's so much for censorship as they realised it looked fucking stupid.

Eat shit and die, niggerfaggot

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I know it's an insult, that's why I called you one. And I also proved my point by calling you one without you knowing it.

>when youve lived long enough to see that concept of free speech being presented as something evil and vile

this is my stop boys, time to go.

ITT Idiots who don't know what Free Speech is.

Free Speech means that you can't be arrested or charged with crimes for things you say.

It does NOT mean:

- That private entities can't ban you from their service if they don't like what your saying
- That anybody has to give you a platform to say whatever it is you're trying to say in the first place
- That other people can't call you an idiot or shun you for what you're saying.

both can be used as endearment, it all depends on the context which is a concept that apparently lost all its meaning and tone
ever heard of shit like "my nigger"?

There's nothing wrong with calling someone a faggot nigger over voice chat because you can just fucking mute them if you're offended or annoyed. I understand stopping people from sending threatening messages over PMs but this is fucking retarded.

That's "Freedom of Speech" you're describing.

The first amendment shouldn't allow the denial of the same right to your customers, especially when an online ban is a legally sanctioned way to steal from a customer. Any games with online functions can be made not to work, even ones that you buy on disc.
I disagree with the idea that free speech stops being a right when a corporation feels like it, especially when there is no alternative where I wouldn't be forced to spend money.
In the same way that you agree to sign up for the selective service by being in the country, it's entirely legal but the foundation for the law is unfair.
>that almost never happens
The fact that it can happen at all is cause for concern. There is nothing preventing them from selectively deciding that they don't like you and effectively taking away your money, since ToS is unregulated and intentionally vague.

>I'll get in trouble if I shout slurs into the void now.

OH IT WILL!

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Unironically yes.
If the owner/manager asks you to leave, which they can do for almost any reason, you are trespassing. Security or Police can and will violently drag your ass out if you won't leave.

XBL is a private platform.

Based. Spazoids on suicide watch

That's not a reply to my post.

In other words you want to infringe on other people's freedom of speech by forcing them to provide you a platform for views that they do not agree with.

Many devs are forced to censor their games to avoid age restricted ratings. The principle still applies

>As far as I'm concerned, no game has ever been censored by the ESRB system
So you're delusional

You're not forced to play online games nigger, go read a fucking book if you don't want to play it. It's not the corporations' job to give you exactly what you ask for. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

What happens to the phrase "talk is cheap?" Why do people care so much about what strangers on the internet call them? If someone's being annoying, mute them; block if necessary.

It's that easy. You don't have to break shit because someone said THE FORBIDDEN WORD.

>Many devs are forced to censor their games to avoid age restricted ratings

This isn't censorship.

Gays, minorities, and "allies" are the shock troops for the nightmare society being built right now to keep people from ever holding a contrary opinion ever again.

Retro gaming looks better with each passing day. Get a crt now.

This. You can always be a toxic fuck and get away with it. t. have never been banned and say nigger on the daily

>If someone's being annoying, mute them; block if necessary.

What is a ban but the owners of the service blocking you because you're annoying?

but no one is forcing them, at worst they are promoting it unintentionally

Post examples where the ESRB association actually censored a game. And not just giving them a rating, but actually making them change the game or forbidding it from being published.

>Nintendo is the least openly censorship crazy console manufacturer right now
What fucking timeline is this

And pray tell, what is the "contrary opinion" that they so desperately want to keep you from holding.

>a legally sanctioned way to steal from a customer
You mean a contract with terms of service that both parties agree to?

why is always retarded amerimutts that can't differentiate the difference between free speech and censorship
do they even know what free speech actually is?

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>n word

Imagine censoring yourself

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How are private companies allowed to limit free speech when our laws strictly prohibit it??

>no cakes for you faggots kek it's the free market bub go shop at fagtown bakery
>ONOES HOW DARE THEY DO THIS, 1984, CENSORING, THE LEEEFT, WAAHH OH MY GOD THE KIKES, 6 GORILLION ANIMU TITTIES CENSORED

see this shit?
this is what I'm talking about

They're spoiled brats who think that the world should be forced to listen to their ever so unique and creative opinions about black people and the Jews.

That's critical thinking.
Current year values do not include critical thinking.
You're supposed to be a reactionary trend-following cultist with no semblance of free will and choice. Consume obey conform. That's what the powers that be want of you.
An enslaved society of drones makes for perfect consumerist puppets. Because that's what they want; to control you, not your money, they already own all the money.

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I want corporate regulation to step away from what people are and are not allowed to say, since the inherent monopolization of online services gives people who are banned no way to speak in the public eye.
My issue isn't just limited to games, it's also sites such as Facebook and Google that can cooperate to remove people from being able to speak. Corporations are going out of their way to invalidate the concept of freedom of speech, which is completely different.
You have no viable alternative. If other services were allowed on the platform, your console wouldn't be a brick once you get banned. However, that isn't the case.

>I disagree with the idea that free speech stops being a right when a corporation feels like it
And the supreme court and every single lawyer in the US disagrees with you and thinks you're stupid.

Private entities can kick you off private property or deny you service for breach of a private code of conduct and it's even more defensible if they display a clear code of conduct.
See the chuck e cheese guy that triggered half the thread

That's what it legally is, but what happened to society following the ideal and general concept of allowing people to say whatever they want. Words don't do physical harm to people.

you'd think they would bothered to actually read up on the laws they so happily defend...

Corporations are not stopping your right to free speech. Your dumb ass using their services and agreeing to the terms of said service is stopping you. Go make your own service if you don't like their terms, but no corp or government agency in america is stopping you from standing on your lawn and saying nigger at passersby.

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I really sick of companies tell people what they can and cannot say. Xb already has all the features it needs and its the mute button.

It's very blatantly "Free Speech for Me but not for Thee."

The point is that they're the only ones allowed to express opinions or even exist by default.

They just use "Free Speech" as an argument because they want to try and obfuscate their selfishness.

Fuck kikes
Fuck niggers
Fuck faggots
Fuck trannies
Fuck pedophiles
And fuck you

what the fuck does free speech even have to do with any of this???????????????
ummm mutt babs??????????????????????????

Amazing that's 12 whole words. At this rate you might have a toddler's vocabulary by 2100.

Not like I was planning on getting a console with no games, but I still wanted something to replace my ps4 now that Kusony fucked everything up
But seriously, it's like they desperatedly yelling us to just go Switch-PC only

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Please learn American laws.

esrb doesn't force platform holders to not sell adult games

Modern gaming is shit. Play your backlog until you die.

Actually that's 13 words. Come on get your shit straight!

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You are absolutely allowed to say what you want.
And we're allowed to say "get the fuck off my property, retard"

Lmao you're the one who doesn't understand how the first amendment works.

no user, you're the one who doesn't understand it

They can, but they shouldn't. I don't care what lawyer bandwagon you want to hold up, it could be that they collectively have a conflict of interest due to corruption.
The supreme court hasn't had the time to get into the gritty part of internet legislation, but the basic idea is that private corporations should be treated as public utilities when they're used and marketed as such.
I agree with this, but I think a valid counterargument is that a first party service does have to maintain a positive brand image, and if you have people calling each other niggers then parents might not want their kids on it. That's why my solution is to allow third party online servers that aren't connected to xbox gold.
The laws aren't inherently justified or up to date with the internet age

Gal gun was censored long ago

the us goverment is run incompletely by sociopaths crazies, sjws, and cucks

>I disagree with the idea that free speech stops being a right when a corporation feels like it
Free speech works both ways. There's the person using a platform, and the owner of the platform. An important thing to learn as an adult is that free speech is only a right insofar as government cannot infringe on it.
See

>pretending that soft bans don't exist
First Amendment doesn't apply to privately owned businesses and their proprietaries.
It's why your job can regulate your speech with impunity.

I mean you've got the first half right at least.

"Congress" shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I put the part in there that you retards keep missing in quotations.

we can declare digital platforms as public spaces, therefore making them unable to ban people for wrong think

>every lawyer and judge in the country is in a massive conspiracy to deny me the right to say nigger on xbl and not get banned
>xbl and psn need to be taken over by the government and made into free speech zones
This is truly peak Yea Forums

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Gal Gun was censored/banned cause it depicted children in a very sexual manner. Massive difference and somewhat justified.

Thank god mine gave me the Screen of death two years ago, and I've transferred to the superior japanese machine, Puraysutation Foru

Why are you two replying to me about this? Yes that's right, which is why the idiot racists complaining about being banned for racism is stupid.

But they're very blatantly hypocritical about it. They're fine with them banning things they don't like, but scream about how there should be a low when they get banned.

law.cornell.edu/wex/obscenity
yeah too bad what most people bitch about is not protected by muh freedums of speech

They have nothing to censor.

Hahahahah retard Xtranny

It's not justified. Go back to /pol/.

I mean if you want to nationalize the internet I'm sure a lot of the left will gladly get behind you.

my fucking sides
why did i laugh so hard to this

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I mean, technically they are. Social media platforms behave literally like digital societies.

As if there is any fucking difference between a government censoring you or a sufficiently powerful corporation.
Don't give me your legalistic bullshit as-written interpretation of the constitution when you know full fucking well what the intention of the amendment was.

Socially acceptable speech doesn't need protecting. It never has.
The first amendment is designed to protect the people that YOU DON'T LIKE.

Why the hate my faggots?

Exactly, we are just a bunch of faggots who love expressing our love for one another

/pol/fags brought this on themselves.

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This, the ESRB is just creating context. :^)

Im the polar opposite of a /pol/tard, but you keep grasping incel

I mean if the internet did become nationalized it wouldn't magically lead to some Nazi paradise where they're not banned.

If anything those idiots will get banned even more than they do now because the government won't have any sort of profit motive so there will be no reason to keep them unbanned from social media once they inevitably begin harassing people.

Suppressing others does nothing to aid the ability of a corporation to take advantage of the first amendment. Past that, I think we should uphold the idea of freedom of speech as a necessary way to communicate.
Conflict of interest coupled with legislative gridlock can very easily produce a lack of results. I think that any service should either be treated as a de facto public resource or offer the ability to use an unassociated alternative.
If you disagree, make an argument instead of attacking the tone.

social media platforms are like concerts or conventions
privately hosted, with extremely low barrier of entry
just because you and everyone you know got in doesn't mean they can't kick you out when they feel like it

Free speech is another white law made to target blacks. Not only to allow whites to say racial slurs, but also to let the blacks think they can give into their nature and threaten violence freely (which is a ploy so that whites can keep them incarcerated). Good for Xbox. They have my support next generation.

Digital platforms are services offered by companies. You have no right to use their platforms for things they don't declare appropriate. Try reading the long ToS sometime. Anyways, no one is stopping you from going to a public place and shouting your stupid thoughts.

>More women get into gaming.
>Suddenly its unbearably shit.
Worst gender confirmed once again.

There is no barrier for entry but anyways heil Hitler

>Don't give me your legalistic bullshit as-written interpretation of the constitution when you know full fucking well what the intention of the amendment was.
To prevent a would-be tyrant from locking up political dissidents.
Wait, you really thought the first anendment was about obscenities? You're a fuckin' moron.

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it's called an account

Well other than the fact that going out into public and shouting racial slurs tends to lead to the people shouting them getting their ass kicked.

>people still too retarded to understand that free speech does not apply to private companies

It's like you fucks never had an actual job.

This is new? I once got a 2 days ban for typing a bad word in my language on my Motto. This was back in 2010.

I've been banned from chatting on Diablo 2 since 2005.

That's the outcome of your choices, but the government and spooky corporations are not locking you in jail for them. That is of course your state doesn't have obscenity laws because those are not protected by the first amendment at all.

Alt-right snowflakes are throwing another tantrum.

I think it's kind'a funny that multiplayer was SO MUCH MORE FUN before these people stormed in and demanded to make it 'even more fun' by 'removing toxicity'

It's pretty obvious their only real goal was to make the community more tolerable to women, bets, and faggots so they could expand their consumer base. All these games that are getting the detoxifying treatment have gotten worse, without exception. That includes single-player games.

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The repercussions are completely different. There's more than one artist doing concerts, but there isn't more than one Twitter. Not being able to access the site would mean you can't see the president's announcements, which is not something that happens at comic con.
Again, you're justifying the practice by saying that it's legal, while laws can be fickle. Segregation was legal until it wasn't, but that had nothing to do with whether the practice was good or not.

Well yes, my point is that these people are cowards and want to use the safety of the internet to express their views.

I agree that the on principle we should let speech be as unrestricted as possible, but I also recognize that private platforms are not obligated by law to keep speech unrestricted. If you want to keep it that way than use your speech to advocate for that.

Are you aware that Yea Forums is also not a free speech platform?

Seriously what the fuck do you think moderation is?

>I think it's kind'a funny that multiplayer was SO MUCH MORE FUN before these people stormed in and demanded to make it 'even more fun' by 'removing toxicity'

Protip it wasn't fun for the people you were being a giant asshole to.

I disagree. And that's a REALLY bad example that doesn't work.

Social media platforms are like the Roman Forum or the Hellenic Agora, but instead of just public conversation/philosophizing, everybody's sharing and downright displaying everything about themselves on top of it all, also someone owns all of the land available monopolizing it and artificially starving you of alternatives. He also called his friends to setup stands all around the place to sell you shit.

Unlike CERO, the ESRB is a volunteer organization of busy-bodies with no authority. There is absolutely no law saying your game has to be reviewed and rated by the ESRB. It's retail store policy that games DO be rated simply so the stores can say they're "thinking of the children" but no one is forcing them to only carry ESRB rated games.

>go back to that place where people are whining the loudest about muh anime tiddy censorship
huh?

and?
you have literally nothing to stand on except, I want to say niggers

>Seriously what the fuck do you think moderation is?

People who ban the leftists from my safe space.

Yeah it was, because you get to be an asshole back.

>I think that any service should either be treated as a de facto public resource or offer the ability to use an unassociated alternative.
And no one agrees because that's an undue cost and extreme government overreach.

As much as you wish it were, XBL is not a public service. Nor should it be. Same with Facebook. Same with Twitter. You are conflating specific services with the actual playform.

When Comcast shuts off your internet for saying nigger we can talk about free speech. Until then, get the fuck out.

You have to learn the difference between private and public. Imagine you own a business and some asshole comes into your place and starts spewing the most autistic shit ever and customers start leaving. If you have them escorted off the premises and banned from reentering should you be liable for it? Twitter and Facebook are private companies offering a service to users but rely mostly on advertising to stay up, people that might jeopardize those advertisers are removed.

>Yeah it was, because you get to be an asshole back.

Except for all the people who weren't assholes, didn't want to be assholes, or were just tired of dealing with assholes and wanted to play a video game not be called a slur

Good, "free speech" is a retarded meme only spouted by the dullest of dullards. Yes it's important the GOVERNMENT doesn't make any LAWS infringing freedom of speech or assembly. That doesn't give you the right to never experience the social ramifications of screaming nigger like a retarded 12 year old.

Globohomo strikes again.

Protip Banter > Your feelies
You'd know that if you'd played online before 2010.
You'd also know shit-talking was universal and everyone partook.

There is no such thing as "a free speech platform". "Free speech" is guaranteed by law. Corporations do not get special exemption that allows them to break laws.

I was never an asshole. This has nothing to do with being an asshole. This has to do with being a MAN and talking to fellow MEN without the toxicity-police kicking down your fucking firewall and stealing your toys for calling your bro a faggot in good natured bantz.

This is how men bond. We're not princesses with dainty sensibilities and regal manners when it's just you and your bros. So what if we just call each other faggots, niggers, or make rape jokes? Look around you. Look at Yea Forums. This is how men talk when women aren't watching. By silencing and muffling men's ability to chat amongst themselves, these people are destroying communities.

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nice argumentative statement
social media are privately owned
period
just because everyone uses it doesn't change the fact that it's not fucking public space
and until the day the US government launches it's government owned social media
nothing you say will change the fact that these fucking platforms are privately owned and not protected under the first amendment

So because someone said a word, they should lose their job and by hounded by Globohomo cultists and journos? LOL wash the onions out of your system faggot.

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>Protip Banter > Your feelies

The people who actually make the games seem to think other wise

Actually having a good time > Your "right" to call people faggots and harass women off the game.

>You'd also know shit-talking was universal and everyone partook.

No they didn't. The people who didn't partake your immature screaming either stopped playing online games or just muted everybody.

Here's a better idea
Mark the faggots who report a bunch of people and matchmake them with eachother
Mark the faggots who constantly talk shit and matchmake them with eachother
Improved quality for everyone

be*

ESRB only rates games. They don't "censor" anything.

Hilarious that you think that. What do you think the 4channel/Yea Forums division is for?

I'm not a leftist but If I was a newcommer on Yea Forums I would have a hard time finding about /pol/ now that it's not on the top of the page.

Maybe find a better way to joke than being super edgy and calling people slurs every other word? There is a reason insult comics are the most hated comedians.

At least they are honest about it.

Freedom of speech does not apply to any privately owned platform or the internet.

Time to grow up

well at least they are honest about it

Difference being there was a time that screaming nigger like a retarded 12 year old would get you in trouble for hurting people's ears with your screeching.
Now screaming nigger like a retarded 12 year old gets you in trouble for including the word nigger not for bursting ear drums.

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This just changes the meta now all you need to do is piss off some retard online and wait till they call you a faggot so you can report and ban them

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>This has to do with being a MAN and talking to fellow MEN without the toxicity-police kicking down your fucking firewall and stealing your toys for calling your bro a faggot in good natured bantz.

It's not good natured and you know it.

And LAMO at calling screaming slurs at people something "men" do. It's the most pathetic and childish of behaviors.

ADULTS (because guess what, women play video games too) don't scream slurs at people

Grow up you pathetic child. It's 2019, you're held to an actual standard now.

Listen, nigglet. I was 12 when Halo came out. I said the most horrifying shit imaginable all the time, usually in response to some other kid talking the same shit.

Gaming was smaller then. Less visible. Less mass-appeal. Times have changed, and you've gotta change with the times.

It's not like you can't bant, you just have to know the time and place. Not everyone is looking to trade escalating racist insults with you.

>Hilarious that you think that.

I, uh, don't. It was sarcasm mocking these "muh freee speech" morons.

Thanks for proving me right. I was worried for a moment there that you were simply trying to rile (you)s out of me. Please stop replying to me now, thanks.

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Yea Forums, this cesspool of toxic masculinity with very little relative moderation, is one of the highest trafficking social websites on the internet for exactly this reason. People can be themselves, anonymous ironically. I think people forget how popular Yea Forums is. And more importantly, why.

I got it too late.

I'm still kinda pissed about what this board split they did since it's so fucking obvious why they did it.

Yea Forums upholds freedom of speech as a general rule with exceptions for defined violations, which is far and beyond what any major tech company has done.
I would like legislation to force companies to define their ToS so that they can't ban people for vague reasons and proceed to shut them out, which is a very real phenomenon.
>no one agrees
Bandwagon fallacy; the popularity of an idea doesn't prove it to be good or bad. Comcast is also not a public utility, as defined by law. There's no inherent difference from comcast not wanting to allow you to do something, and facebook not wanting you to. Your options are effectively just as limited in both scenarios.
I don't think you understand my viewpoint. I know and accept that private companies are private. However, monopolistic platforms are not in the same league as any other business, and that should serve as the basis to legislate on them differently. Being banned from facebook is like if you were banned from having a phone number, and is much easier because only one company has to make that call.

How, exactly, did I prove you right?

And lol at trying to imply I'm from Reddit. That place is like, a million times more facist then this place, if only because the Nazis can't use downvote bots to try and smother any contrary opinion.

>wahh wahh I can't call people niggerfaggotkikes anymore, MUH FREE SPEECHZZZ

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Fucking this.

Getting golds in Overwatch to get themselves banned is far more fun than playing ranked in masters/gm

>So because someone said a word, others should be allowed to say words
Yes

Rent free

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>monopolistic platforms
user, the fact that you can list more than five fucking websites proves that this isn't a fucking monopoly, it's not even fucking close

Well said. Shocking/immature/offensive humor is the foundation of male friendship. Anybody who says otherwise is either a faggot, or a woman.
No amount of moderation, censorship or pearl clutching will change the inherent traits of the male character.
They will never win.

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That's not censorship, they are doing it because lots of parents won't buy Adult Only games for their kids.

Literally what is even the point of using a mic then if you aren't gonna just fucking trash people? Sure you can talk with your team but who the fuck cares about your team? You wanna shit talk everybody and just the ability to cause chaos with your voice alone is satisfying, words alone make these crybabies upset and if you take that away wheres the fun in talking? Why even engage with any sort of online communication with a bunch of anonymous people if you're just gonna get fucking mad over it? And it's not like there isn't a mute button.

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Imagine unironically playing "online multiplayer" yikes...

they've already started censoring games. There are profanity filters when you're given the opportunity to name anything. i wanted to name my horse Shitkicker in RDR2, they won't even let me name it Buttblaster what the fuck

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You're pathetic.

If you really are older than me as you claim, you should have experienced first hand what it means to compromise your hobby in the name of mass appeal.
Yet here you are telling me to surrender my hobby's organic experience to the artificial cancer that is the mainstream and corporate fascism. Gaming was
there before they came, they should adapt not the other way around.

Im not condoning censorship but from a company perspective theyre free to enforce these rules. Actual free speech only applies to government related shit. And while people whining and crying about having their feelings hurt online need to grow some thicker skin you do agree to the terms of what Microsoft sets up. Personally i dont give a fuck on what people say to me online on any platform but you gotta pick and choose your battles and words wisely.

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This is why 3rd party software is so fucking important and this is why exclusivity should be bashed by everyone.

Its already happened. Nobody even uses game chat anymore, its totally dead. RIP the good old days of trash talk in online games, have fun playing with soulless people with no microphones.

libertarians are becoming the most annoying niggers online.
>you banned my twitter account for posting anti-jewish articles. i'm gonna sue jack and get my profile back, because this is a clear violation of my free speech. twitter is more like a townsquare because of how popular it is, you're literally taking food off my table when you ban my account. you also shadow banned me because my 200 followers said they don't see my tweets on their timeline.

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> There's no inherent difference from comcast not wanting to allow you to do something, and facebook not wanting you to. Your options are effectively just as limited in both scenarios.
You can't actually believe that, can you?

Why have I been arguing with a special needs child

>Xbox boss
>"Xbox live is not a free speech platform"

>"Free speech" is guaranteed by law.
The only guarantee you have is:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"

It's just edgy /pol/ kids going around spamming NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER in chat and then crying about "muh free speech" when they get banned

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No fucking shit it isn't a free speech platform. It's a platform owned by a private company. Why the fuck is this news?

>you also shadow banned me because my 200 followers said they don't see my tweets on their timeline.
what's wrong with saying this

holy shit...
serves me right for thinking that actual intelligent people still exists on Yea Forums
guess this user proved that I'm the retard

>facebook is a monopoly
>facebook is a utility

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Free speech isn't even a right in US. Free speech is just something government cannnot create laws onto, you can be told to shut the fuck up in the family table as much as in the the walmart.

one less customer here

The biggest question I have is why do you feel that you need social media. Why do you think it should be a protected right? It’s literally people screaming into a vacuum about the most atupid shit imaginable. How anyone thinks they need a right to it is astounding. Do you really need to share your vacation photos with hundreds of strangers? Do you really need people to know your every thought? Most of these services are just advertising and data collection honey pots anyways.

>Times have changed, and you've gotta change with the times.

This is the most pathetic thing I have ever read.

>Men are x
>Men aren't y
You don't get to tell me what I am or am not you bitch

>on Yea Forums
>supports not being allowed to say "fag" online

>THE WORLD SHOULD ADAPT TO ME
That'd sure be nice, but it sure as shit ain't how things work. Games aren't the wild west anymore.

You have never had a male friend in your life. At least, not a good one. If you can't understand that men insult their bros. It's called 'ribbing'. It's basically the male equivalent of hugs. It's a show of comradery.

but shit posting on the internet is a god given right user!

>facebook is a utility
that also got me. I hope user is just having a giggle, because anyone that says this shit legit is beyond help.

That's unfortunate, because you've entered an overtly competitive environment asshole, so you are at baseline probably going to be doing something another party dislikes. Either revel in it while sticking to whatever arbitrary rules of conduct you have or don't have or don't play in a competitive atmosphere.

Yeah! Don't assume xir's gender, shitlord!

There is no alternative to facebook, and certainly not one with a compatible protocol. Being banned from there means you have to go through hurdles to connect with your family or people in local groups. The reality of the situation is that facebook offers the most convenient solution to do so for many people, and they will not want to communicate with a banned user through other channels.
Utilites are fundamentally monopolies under law. Water, power (and internet to some degree, until net neutrality was taken down) exist as such.
I don't argue from a personal need. I see it that certain platforms are growing immensely in power and should have checks and balances to protect our freedom.
Whether or not they're all applicable to me doesn't mean I shouldn't care that services such as these create a (somewhat addictive) dependency for the majority of the country.

You're right
No one should ever exchange their thoughts and ideas with each other over long distances ever
You should be restricting to only being able to speak to people within your immediate vicinity
Burn every computer and phone

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I unironically can't wait for government regulations forcing corporations to adhere to free speech laws. You're either a publisher or a platform. You can't be both.

Monopoly is the biggest anti business buzzword. What twitter and faceshit have are closer to oligopolies. Still the only "monopoly" term one can aim at these companies is monopolistic competition.

SOMEONE needs to tell you when you're acting like a faggot. They need to point at you, and laugh, so you understand what you're doing is embarrassing to yourself and everyone that knows you.

This biggest problem with society today is this anti-bully campaign which has bread an entire generation of faggots, fairies, betas, and feminists sympathizers by disallowing children to point and laugh at John when he wears a floral spring dress to his first day of middle school. Fuck that.

>my friends constantly insult me
Do you want to talk about that, user?
How does that make you feel?

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This might come to a shock to a robot like you, but in nomenclature word monopoly encompass words such as oligopolies.

>GAMERS RISE UP
>MY SPEECH IS THE ONLY ONE THAT MATTERS

>There is a reason insult comics are the most hated comedians.
Not by men. Blazing Saddles, for example, is legendary and untouchable in male circles. It's more or less one long string of political incorrectness. No one cares if women and faggots can't take a joke. Men appreciate offensive and dark humor.

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LOOK AT THIS FUCKING POST
FUCKING LOOK AT IT
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THESE ARE THE KIND OF POSTERS YOU SHARE A BOARD WITH
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>friends can only exist as a positive, supportive force and if they ever criticize or call you a mean word CUT THEM OUT OF YOUR LIFE happy funtimes ONLY positive goodfeels sweet sugarthoughts MUSTN'T REFLECT

calm down sperg holy shit

Fuck you asshole you don't define what makes a 'good friend', and you SURE AS SHIT don't get to define YOUR personal relationships as 'the norm' you presumptuous arrogant little shit

Nice argument, cretin. Fuck off, you're making my side look bad.

>There is no alternative to facebook
>WhatsApp
>Instagram
>Diaspora
>Ello
>Vero
>WeChat/Weixin
>Weibo
Oh yeah man there no alternatives to facebook, nope not at all.

Yeah, they do. They're a bunch of faggots. What do your friends do to bond with you? Suck your dick? Buy you flowers? Call you 'honey'?

>facebook is a right, not a privilege
this thread

The difference is that they've sectioned off so that competition is impossible, while a standard oligopoly would have two businesses in the same sphere that just don't care to innovate.
Caps lock is so cool, dude.

Ahh yes, I see, when david calls you a stupid cocksucking faggot for not getting the kill it causes a state of deep reflection, not unlike meditation

How is 7th grade going?

No, what you wrote was absolutely pathetic. "Just go with the flow bro lmao" is a terrible mentality to have. You be who you are and fight for what you believe in.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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THESE ARE THE POSTERS YOU'RE TALKING TO
JAAFHJSAHFASJKDFLAHS
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING EPIC

Pretty good, my dude. Hows your first psych class? Did you turn in your scary half page report yet?

Imagine a 300lb greasy blob or a 130 pound emaciated ghoul mashing their keyboard in the dark like this

Monopoly means one. There is only one option for a product or service. There is a spectrum in economic markets brainlet. It starts with Perfect Competition and ends at Monopoly. Oligopolies are not monopolies as there are more than one producer.

not him but
>Instagram
Is owned by facebok.
Not to mention whats is the only thing I recognize on the list of literally whos. And if I don't recognize the majority of them, most people aren't either.

>Kotaku
Pretty sure Xbox Live is gonna be censorship-laden, but still... fuck Kotaku.

Way to demonstrate how one dimension your mindset is, that everything is black or white to you. Shut the fuck up you piece of shit. And for the record this ain't 'bantz' I'm telling you to fuck off for real.

Imagine being such a little bitch that you treat minor ribbing like psychotic bullying

>comparing a comedy masterpiece by Mel Brooks to fucking insult comics
End yourself

>muh comfy console
>muh comfy walled garden
>muh comfy it just works

Gettin' awfully defensive there. It's kind of suspicious and makes me wonder just how horribly wrong your social life has gone. And how subconsciously aware of it you are.

OH SHIT
OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN
OH SHIT OH FUCK
HE INSULTED ME
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
HE THINKS THIS SOMEONE DEFLECTS THE ABSOLUTE RETARDNESSS PRESENTED TO THIS WORLD THAT IS HIS POST
OH GOD
BWAAHAAHAHAHA

Who in their right mind thinks a private company isn't allowed to police speech on their service

Sites like facebook and twitter are the modern day town square. The only reason free speech doesn't apply to them is because the law hasn't caught up to them yet. It's getting there though.

Sony mostly censors pedobait stuff, the DMC5 censorship was a weird one but they reverted it quick. Im pretty sure microsoft doesnt get a lot of those types of games anyway.

why defend things that hate you
honestly

Different sides of the same coin and makes the point just fine. Men like dark humor. Both are dark humor. If you get offended by a joke that's not meant to offend you, then you're a raging faggot.

Imagine being such a spineless bitch that you let people who don't even like you shit all over you just for the semblance of companionship

no, monopoly means every monopolistic action, this means no competition, limited competition, made up competition, cabal. all of this shit is encompassed by one word, MONOPOLY.

Can't believe I laughed at this.

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Instagram and whatsapp are owned by them. The rest are only useful if you want to talk to chinks, or really anybody but who you would communicate with on facebook
Twitter is the only viable producer for their system, and whether or not facebook exists doesn't change their strategy, as they have monopolistic qualities.

u mad

>Sites like facebook and twitter are the modern day town square

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The entire democratic party?

nah

You know, the more you actually study morality and human behavior, the more you realize everything really is fairly black and white, there is just nigh infinite variance in what is "Black" or "White". Extremism is the only manner in which morality exists, accept it.

You're probably a literal nigger who can't pirate for shit, mod shit out/in, and don't know communities where there is little to no moderation.

>l-look now I'm typing in lowercase s-see how calm I am
lol yep u mad

Yeah no go fuck yourself. You don't get to tell me what a good friend is or isn't. If I'm comfortable with ribbing and banter that's entirely MY preference and I wouldn't be so arrogant to assume not nor FORCE others to act according to my standards.

>modern day town square
>this is what zoomers think
It's a free service to gather information from massive retards to sell to whom ever wants it. They were never intended to be speech platforms they solely exist to harvest data from idiots that must share every facet of their life. If you want to spew your ideology at strangers public squares still exist.

Look, boomer, it's 2019. Social media has became incredibly important to public discorse. For better or for worse.

We need to force the 1st amendment on corporations. If they don't comply, they can move out or get shut down.

>PRIVATE COMPANIES CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT INCELS
Corporations lose their right to police their own service with impunity when they step into the area of speech platforms and search engines. I'm not talking about stupid shit like "I got banned for saying nigger in overwatch, they LITERALLY stole my money". I'm saying that your argument is so short sighted it can't even see what's in front of it. No, Google should not be allowed to decide who gets heard and it's dumb to pretend like they do simply because they're sticking it to alt-shiters. Google has more control over freedom of speech and who gets heard and what gets publicised than any western government in history. All without any oversight or responsibilities beyond lining their pockets. Make whatever other arguments you want but if you make any kind of argument like this you deserve the corporate fascism you desperately want.

Y'ALL DON'T KNOW YOUR RIGHTS
I HOPE UR NOT ACTUALLY AMERICAN
THIS IS SCARY

THEY AREN'T VIOLATING YOUR RIGHTS BY NOT LETTING YOU USE THEIR PLATFORM FOR YOUR HATE SPEECH, LMAO

THEY'RE VIOLATING YOUR RIGHTS IF THEY TRY TO ARREST YOU FOR IT

But all the corporate bootlickers are on the left.

No the Democrats are pro censorship. Read my statement again.

oh really
surely this "right" is well documented and has precedence in court then

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>If you and your best friend call eachother morons when you do stupid shit, that means you're spineless
Genuinely confusing bait
Who said anything about forcing? If you can only handle people who Stepford Smile and never say anything abrasive, then hang out with those people.

>he thinks social media exists for the user's benefit
kek, you don't know companies at all do you zoom zoom?

>They were never intended
Yet here we are. Twitter has millions of users worldwide and has no real competition. There are some upstarts trying to challenge it but they have a fraction of the mind share.

Yea Forums
>Keep politics out of my video games!

Also Yea Forums
>What do you mean calling people nigger isn't allowed?? That's censorship!

this
Google monitors the government, not the other way around.

Saying words isn't "social ramifications" retard, we've all seen these "ramifications" and it's always being fired from your job, being harassed and physically attacked by SJWs, or going to jail.

I think it's just kids. I'm no longer surprised how many people think 'free speech' applies across every aspect of their existence. It's something you should learn in passing. by the time you're 18. There's no way the subject doesn't come up. Unless everyone there is equally retarded and doesn't know the actual reach of free speech is extremely limited in this age of the internet where most of our words pass through the hands of private organizations before anyone else hears them.

You're God damn right in getting defensive. I find it incredibly insulting for anyone to try and dictate to others how friends are "supposed" to act or that their standards are the "correct" ones. You don't speak for me or my friends and if you think you do you can fuck right off.

The censorship system really doesn't have a way to tell the difference. Facebook has censored the ability to quote the declaration of independence because it's too similar to hate speech.
The internet is fundamentally different from other forms of communication, but the legal system has been too slow to catch up.

this nigga gets it. big tech is too powerful and influential to be left to their own devices when it comes to what they allow on their platforms.

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oh, so you just straight up lied about it huh

Microsoft online is a restricted, pay-to-access service. The most you could reasonably manage in a legal contest is getting a refund for the remainder of your subscription.

answer me

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If a company started losing money from having employees that go on tirades about niggers needing to be lynched why shouldn't they be allowed to fire them?

Not him but us court has ruled trump can't block people on twitter because everyone has to be able to read what he's saying if he's gonna be on twitter. Laws are slowly but surely catching up to big tech.

>only reads half the post before replying
>classic zoomer
Twitter has millions of users worldwide and has no real competition for a reason. Facebook and Twitter are data honeypots. They exist not to give you a free speech platform, they exist to harvest advertisement data to sell to the companies that sponsor them. Any company that wants to get into social media as a free speech service wont last or will always be literally who because they only exist to do as I said before.

I really don't care if they keep trying to censor it.
Gaming services were the best in 2000-2010 because of the wild nature of mass griefing and slurs.No longer can you make a clan called "kill all niggers" just because some executives think it will cause actually brain dead people to go on a nigger killing rampage.
You'll just see it manifest in other ways like people spamming Trump 2020 & MAGA in every game because of the attempt to make insults political results in people supporting the side that insults better.

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Stereotypes exist for a reason. When you're outside of the stereotype, you should be exploring why. You don't have to get offended when someone calls you a freak of nature. But you should at least accept that you're a fringe element.

I don’t want lack people be made into 2nd class citizens again but I do want to call people niggers, just give me my free speech you gay bitch

Suppression of political dissent is political
I would prefer if companies were not political at all, rather than making you support gay rights in order to use a service.

HE'S THE PRESIDENT AND HE'S ALSO CUH-RAYZEE

SO IT'S ENTIRELY DIFFERENT

Because freeze peach, duh
George Washington wanted me to be able to call kids in the ball pit niggerfaggot cucks without getting fired from McDonalds

THIS IS FOR FREEDOM

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGEEEEEERR

SAY IT WITH ME FRIENDS, WE WILL DIE ON OUR FEET AND WE WILL NOT LIVE ON OUR KNEES!

SAY IT WITH MEEEE

NIGGGEEEEERRRR

The 'autism' insult doesn't work when you're replying to something that isn't remotely indicative of any traits found on the autistic spectrum. Just call them a 'retard' like the rest of Yea Forums does. Retard.

I know you're being facetious but people on here are ACTUALLY stupid enough to think the President of the United States doesn't have the right to block people from viewing his messages... but Twitter does

yeah, he's the president
which brings up the "government" part of free speech

not long I hope, kids are not prepared to face the harshness of the real world today

I read the article in question and I knew it would cause a shitstorm here. I encourage everyone to read a pastebin of it, actually.

From Phil Spencer's point of view, what he's trying to advocate seems the most reasonable and it's simple: making games more accessible for everyone. Bigger market, more money, more success, more reach. From a political point of view, a smaller divide.

I don't know if I've just become jaded by this place, but I'm actually willing to put more faith in Phil Spencer than anyone else on the political spectrum right now.

The point is that law acts like twitter is a platform. Meanwhile, when twitter bans people for deadnaming a tranny, they hide behind being a publisher.

>(not) supporting free speech is a divisive political statement
Ebin timeline

mcdonalds isn't a speech platform though.

>Government officials can circumvent constitutional crisis' by scurrying off onto """"""private""""" social media platforms that host government officials and make money from people using it to connect with their own local and national government

George Washington would also probably shoot you for getting his order wrong

AAAAAAAA

NIGGEEEERRRR

I AM FREE

I AM FREEE ANONS

I AM FREE TO SAY ANYTHING I WANT

I AM FREE TO SAY NIGGEEEEERRRR

Why the fuck are you morons vehemently defending things getting safer and more boring? It's so utterly sterile and dull. Do you really want online video games to become like the bottom part of this image?

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Funny you should mention though, isn't there actually legal precedence in the US for privately-owned publicly-available spaces (physical, you can't expect boomers to really be that caught up now) to still have to uphold free speech? Admittedly I'm not certain about it and would love for somebody to fill me in. Surely people aren't allowed to just shout slurs in strip malls.

>free speech is hostile
Why didn't the generations before the 50's think of this? Can you imagine what they would have done to gays and uppity women who don't stay in the kitchen?

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>games were always censored by the esrb
>was made in the late 80s/early ninties at peak nintendo v sega console faggotry

God you're a retard, and everyone who replied not calling you out is a faggot. Also, esrb doesn't censor or change shit, just a rating board, 'voluntary' at that.

jizz drinking smegpig.

they can't user
which is why they ruled that way
so that no matter the platform, if it's a government official posting it's now a public forum

Why the fuck are there so many corporate bootlickers on v?

That kind of logic is the best way to ensure these tech giants get broken up with anti trust laws.

Neither is xbox live or facebook or twitter. They are all private services with clear competition

>I trust multimillion dollar corporations to curate speech for me
No, faggot. These fucking corpos are all going about it the wrong way. Don't police shit yourself, give your users the tools to do that themselves. ffs mute and block functions are already standard across all chats.

This is a really good point, because it demonstrated that Twitter has more power than the President over freedom of speech. He can't block you from seeing his tweets, but apparently they can.
I'm not against that. I think it's the sensible business move, but there is nothing that forces them from making you use xbox gold except their own greed, since the game servers aren't even owned by MS most of the time, they're just leeching off of it. The easy solution is to allow players to host their own servers and connect to game servers without having to subscribe to a service that can be revoked at any time.

Oh, I think I misread your post, derp.
Shame people actually want to double dip the issue with "Highest elected government official can't do X but Twitter can"
Imagine being legally unallowed to hit a block button as THE US PRESIDENT but a company is allowed to do it and no one bats an eye because the company agrees with them.

That's not how stereotypes work

It's sad seeing American companies rejecting American ideals. This will help literally no one.

If I fall, will you catch me? Do you love your fellow man? Or would you let me fall?

Hold my hand and guide me through the dark night

The real issue is that they formed their monopoly by following one set of rules and now that there is no competition they are suddenly switching gears.

If their current buisiness practice was truly the best it could be, trust-busting would be a non-issue as the company would quickly regain its lost market share due to its clearly superior model. By calling out against trust-busting you are basically admitting that their current model is less competitive.

Because I own a business and don't care for you faggots trampling over my right to kick faggots and mudslimes out of my cake shop. Just because some liberal company treats right wingers the same way doesn't mean we should kill the whole shebang.

>If I fall, will you catch me?
Yeah but I might call you a faggot or a nigger

the idea of competing social media is inherently moronic and unrealistic

Because corporations run the country dumbass.

That's pretty much exactly how they work. if 95% of men get smashed and call each other assholes and make fun of their moms, then that's a stereotype.

Antitrust? No
But it can remove their platform immunity and make them liable for anything anyone says on their platform
That's what congress is currently threatening Youtube with

No it doesn't. The 1st amendment prevents the government from making laws that infringe on free speech. Free speech itself is a ideal people believe in as a natural born right.
Don't tell others to go back to school if you don't know shit yourself.

>He thinks his cake shop is Twitter or Paypal and can strong arm upstart competitors by completely pulling the rug out from under them and contacting banks

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Social media devolves into an anti-competitive mess. Twitter doesn't even have to make money to stay in business because there is literally nobody who can take it from them.
You also can't go out and buy a different online service for your xbox.

They would have let Hitler win if they knew he would give them more rights in the future than their own government.

Odd how most of the offensive stuff people say online they would never say in person around a group of people. No wonder they must defend it so vehemently, if they lose they will have to settle for saying faggot nigger on the street and getting their ass beat.

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Me and my best friend just talk awkwardly about e3 and the few video games we barely play anymore because both of us have drifted away from each other after highschool

we need GOVERNMENT OWNED FORUMS and SOCIAL MEDIA

WHO HERE IN SUPPORT OF FBICHAN

this is a blue board user, racism is against the rules

Like the moderation tools given to the fps servers of yore? I admit, you have a good point. MS so far hasn't given the specifics to their moderation anyways. Here's to hoping they go about it "that" way.

Similar to what I said above, I think what you're suggesting is also the most reasonable.

If you kill one you kill the other retard, that's the point. Broad regulation does not discriminate.

Le main problem was allowing gorporate to maintain gorporate servers and not having any LAN or other options. This can be remedied by not playing modern shit just cause you want a vain interaction with your fellow losers in some arbitrary dick measuring contest via retarded online rankings.

I wouldn't really say that either. An important point that I don't see talked about enough is: This American dream nonsense that a startup business can complete with the biggest businesses of the age and have a chance of winning is outdated and dead. Long dead. Amazon could sell at a loss, provide legal litigation, press astroturfing, and lobby for years and years and still live comfortably. In the global age there's simply too much money within these entities for any amount of healthy competition. The only entities have have a reasonable chance are other similarly sized entities. Unless governments step (good luck with that) there will never be another Amazon. There will never be another google. The capitalist model of survival of the fittest does not work anymore. If you don't agree: Tell me how one would compete with Amazon, assuming they're also fighting back.

Yeah, that's the fucking point, retard. People like to be fucking safe.
>Heh, odd how most people masturbate in their bathroom or bedroom and not out in public in a group of people. No wonder they defend having privacy, if they lose it they will have to jerk off in public and get arrested.

>WHO HERE IN SUPPORT OF FBICHAN
So just regular Yea Forums(nel)?

>Corporations have a lot of power
>That means it's ok for them to control my life
Why the fuck are there so many softheads on v?

yeah, but now with 100% more guaranteed freeze peach and 200% more accurate data collection

Do something about it then

No one is talking about broad regulations.

Yeah, and I also wouldn't use profanities in person around a group of people. Does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to say "fuck" online?

The only saving grace about Paypal being a nightmare is that there can be some semblance of competition, although stripe and other services are unreliable.
The argument is for the regulation of monopolistic entities as public forums.
Amazon basically does sell at a loss already, which is the scary part of that mess. Web services basically subsidize the entire retail branch

That's right Microsoft. Keep talking.

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>he doesn't masturbate in public or in groups of people
That's how I know you are a loser. It's also the fact you think comparing masturbation to screaming nigger in public is anywhere near the same.

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More like it's in compliance with Marsh V Alabama since Twitter is dispensing government alert and services that let you connect with government officials instantly.
And don't give me some bullshit like "u can male them dude only takes a few days" because that's a retarded thing to even think.
Or Paypal that's basically a monopoly as most online vendors don't accept other means
Or as user mentioned earlier with Google being wayyyy too big for it's own good.
If you're involved with any of that shit you fucking deserve it, no sympathy for you

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He's right though. It's the left who defends corporations trampling over people's rights.

Stereotypes are not 'guidelines' for how people 'should' act.
Saying I should "explore why i fall outside a stereotype" or that I'm a "freak of nature" if i don't fall into specific stereotypes is like calling a black person a "freak of nature" if he isn't a criminal or doesn't like rap or if an Asian isn't good at math.

>say words
>money stolen
At least IN EU i can easily issue a chargeback but its still fucked up

Pretty sure saying fuck and calling someone a fucking faggot ass kike sand nigger is not the same, but what ever you have to tell yourself bud.

>Amazon could sell at a loss, provide legal litigation, press astroturfing, and lobby for years and years and still live comfortably.
Amazon has accrued debt for its entire existance until very recently. They only exist because (((le bankers meme))) allow them to undercut their opposition who are burdened with being forced to actually pay their bills. Similar with twitter; every time competition pops up it eventually dies, not because of userbase, but because paypal or whatever bank pulls funding. Social media platforms are artificially held up by hanging off of banks pockets in return for doing the banks' bidding.

>Stereotypes are not 'guidelines' for how people 'should' act.
They are guidelines for how people act.

The far left defends pretty much any revocation of rights that aren't abortion or welfare
The EU has its own shitty standards for free speech, so you're not really that far ahead. Plus, you still have a bricked console.

My point was that his argument made no sense. His argument was "you wouldn't do this in real life so you shouldn't do it online", and I refuted that with something that I wouldn't do in real life yet do online.

Correct, masturbating in public deserves for you to be thrown in jail and possibly decapitated for being a degenerate which happens in every sand nigger shithole. Thankfully, they can call you an Satanic apostate faggot, and they won't be going to prison for it.

>Faceberg and Twatter are the modern day public squares
Go outside, and more importantly have sex

The jews of Silicon Valley want censorship. They want globohomo to go on with no breaks. So all sides will bow to them

zoom zoom go outside? but outside is scary and confusing to zoom zoom. too many boom boom wanting to hurt zoom zoom. so me call boom boom faggot on twitter instead.

That's amazing how progressive left faggots handing over the rights to decide what's good and what's bad to giant soulless corporations.

>PC Gaming

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This is not how it works.

It's just like movies. If your movie is rated NC-17 you are forced to censor it so it becomes R or else you are forbidden from showing it in theaters because of American moral police.

If your game is rated higher than M you are not allowed to sell it in stores unless that store sells porn. You also can't have it on consoles.

This forces people to censor their products to make them sell. Movies can get away with "NOT RATED" versions but games can't because consoles ruin everything.

Banks are generally accepted as the source of censorship, ass well. The REAL source. You don't see it discussed on Yea Forums because it's too deep to allow for a good rage since you have to actually know your shit to follow the trail.

A great example of this - a couple years ago Patreon had a massive change in their guidelines to restrict games with incest, bestiality, etc, from being funded on their platform. That was because PayPal told them they did not want their company associating with that sort of content.

Yea Forums, another example ... go over to /vip/ and read about some of the drama involving 4chanpass payments how Yea Forums has issues maintaining a payment processor. Even now, to buy a Yea Forums pass, you have to do it on 4channel.org. You can't do it on Yea Forums.org. And, strangely, no one fucking tells you that in the FAQ.

But this is how banks spin things from the shadows.

it's beautiful
the day umemaro get's on steam is the day I start buying games on steam full price

No PC gamer ever complains about the variety of games on PC. It's always the console faggots that think they know something. PC gamers are too busy playing games to make collages for image boards.

why not just i dunno not call someone a nigger faggot?

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I'm not an NPC like you. I decide for myself how I should act. I'm not someone who can't handle the world unless I can fit everyone into neat little boxes. You disgust me with both your ignorance and your arrogance.

You know that bill has 0 chance of being passed into law ever?

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Great, and we are supposed to be cheering for it.

because I fucking want to, you idiot

Gaming died 10 years ago. Today companies do nothing but parade the corpses for their ideologies. Play old stuff and hope someone make a better industry when this one crumble

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Looks like by 2019 the concept of free speech has become completely obsolete. Imagine if it was the other way around, and the same tramplings on free speech would prevent voicing their support for progressive ideas.
But I guess it's okay as long as they are not the ones being affected.

yeah but why? do you suck that bad at games you have to rage?

>sjws, and cucks
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Not the same guy, I don't want to call anyone a nigger faggot, I want to maintain the ability to criticise "progressive" ideas without being banned or risking my life destroyed. But that's impossible, and to be honest very scary.

Playing Amid Evil now, so probably true.

Because I think that it's funny. Why are you assuming that I do it out of anger?

we're talking about xbox banning your account for saying faggot shit

honestly that bottom one on the white one hurts more than all the ones on the red combined

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How? That's the weakest one.

passive aggressive tone just gets to me more idk why

nigger.

I'm starting to think even that is starting to be a bit too far.

Is there a name from right wingers who hate business and don't understand the idea that businesses aren't the government and can make their own rules?

I believe if a corporation's influence has grown to such a level that it becomes platform for discourse on the entire world, it shouldn't be treated as a private company anymore in terms of free speech, since in this aspect they have clearly even more influence and power than any government (as silly and distopian meme-y that sounds).

this is great

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if you want to keep those rights as a business you have to make sure you're not too popular
kinda like kleenex tissues they became so insanely popular that they can't copyright that name

People who care about the country

>kinda like kleenex tissues they became so insanely popular that they can't copyright that name
Hey dummy, xeroxing, googling, coke, and a litany of other ubiquitous words are all copy written.

Where the fuck am I, when did conservatives become fucking liberals?

I'm not even a right winger, and I understand that businesses aren't the government and can make their own rules. I'm challenging this idea, because if a platform like reddit or twitter, who clearly have insanely large amount of influence way way over the US government or any other government, they shouldn't be able to make their own rules regarding free speech for the same reason governments shouldn't be able to trample on free speech.

I LOVE BIG DADDY GOVERNMENT

why are you assuming my leanings dumbo also none of those are copy written you liar

Why can't zoomers live in a world without social media? I think it's hilarious when I take my son's phone away and put a password on the router and I suddenly become worse than Hitler.

i hate social media with a burning passion but it keeps people connected

The same reason you can't be assed to go fetch your own water, or generate your own electricity. They have become way too convenient to give up, just like that. Just because our great-great-great grandparents were hunting for food for themselves just to survive and they could doesn't mean we should too.

i enjoy when the wifi goes down and everyone starts to flip their shit. its funny as fuck watching them have anxiety attacks because they cant check twatter or faceshit.

>Thermos, Kleenex, Q-Tip, ChapStick, Aspirin, Dumpster, Band-Aid, Velcro, Hoover, Jet Ski, Speedo, Google, Uber and TASER are examples of trademarks that have become genericized in the US and elsewhere.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark
They can be trademarked, but the right to genericize them is reserved by the government.

And to think that the same people just 15 years ago thought the internet was the nerdiest shit ever and no "normal people" used it.

>dumpster
>hoover
>speedo
>taser
i didn't know these used to be trademarked holy heck

So this is why Nintendo combated game consoles being called nintendos so much. They are clever as fuck, I can concede that much, even if I hate them with a burning passion.

in their defense the internet 15 years ago wasnt as user friendly and most things didnt rely on it to even function.

>why are you assuming my leanings dumbo also none of those are copy written you liar
office.xerox.com/userdoc/FAM_P2/driverhelp/copyright.html
>Xerox®
coca-colacompany.com/our-company/the-coca-cola-company-terms-of-use
>You further acknowledge that Coca-Cola owns the trademarks “Coca-Cola”, “Coke” and all associated Coca-Cola trade names, service marks and logos

They are ubiquitous to what they are known for, they are still owned and trademarked by their parent company

And for fuck sakes, Kleenex is copyright
>Often used informally as a genericized trademark for facial tissue in the United States, the name Kleenex is a registered trademark of Kimberly-Clark Worldwide, Inc

NOOOOOOO WHY CAN'T I CALL PEOPLE NIGGERS AND FAGGOTS LIKE WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD FUCKING SJW KIKES RUIN EVERYTHING

>if you want to keep those rights as a business you have to make sure you're not too popular
Hell of a good message to send to business btw. Don't get to big, or you will loss all your right.

The funny thing is that it isn't even true, they don't lose any rights by getting big.

do you not see what's happening right now with twitter and google?

To them, it was evidently a very real possibility that they would lose rights to their brand name. I think Atari may have also had the same issue, if they didn't fall apart.

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>CONSTITUTION BAD

No, what is happening right now with twitter and google?

google it my dude

No, just tell me or be more specific what you mean.

>MUH FREEZE PEACH
How about you just fucking behave

>>PC gamers
>>Playing games
user plz

He literally just did, that's the joke.

nah dude google it it'll be easier

so then...
don't say the no no word? I mean, are you upset that you can't be a racist asshole? I mean, do people actually demand the right to say stupid shit about Da Joos? people who aren't 13, anyway...

That's the premise of natural rights

it is crazy how fucking uppity geek media consumers are. you buy a movie ticket, and suddenly you are the final authority on all canon.

gamers are on the recieving end of someone else's creativity. they do the work, market the thing, distribute it, and yet the gamer thinks he gets to demand shit

...did you just miss completely the previous conversation that confirmed these companies do not lose their copyright even if the term enters common speech? Are you playing dumb with me on purpose?

Private platforms not being affected by the first amendment is a tricky one.
I think everyone would be able to see more the issue if the roles were reserved, and private companies were censoring progressive views, while advocating totalitarian authority and would actively trying to help establish a fascist government.

In the current setup, nobody could do anything against them.

not calling someone a nigger, online, is going to cause more violence?

>Oh wait, let me laugh harder.jpg

Yes, the skinny bullied mentally unstable white dude will snap if they can't call someone a nigger online, so they grab their dad's gun and shoot a school up or two.
In America, this is a very real possibility, I wish I was joking.

Certainly taking away someone's ability to discuss things will lead to them just silently fucking off.
Imagine being this short sighted.

You lose the right to pursue legal action for people using the term
Also, google is the most popular option for search engines, and will likely be regulated because of its market share.

>Also, google is the most popular option for search engines, and will likely be regulated because of its market share.
That is no basis for regulation.
>You lose the right to pursue legal action for people using the term
You do not. Source.

there is no such thing as corporate fascism. corporations are not governing bodies, and you had better pray to fucking God that they never become that.

"Online not rated"
kys

okay... what does "censorship" mean? if I am trying to get someone's assistance, and I decide not to call them a shitty word, is that censorship?

Wer not not twitter you can say just say nigger

I am to 100% sure that they alread pressured square as well to censor tifa
All those multi billion companies follow the same leftwing agenda

because "free speech" doesn't apply. if you walk into my house and shout "nigger" I will bust your lip and throw you out. The government has nothing to say about it, because it is my house.

if you go on Youtube and shout nigger, Youtube will do the same thing, and the government will have the same response. its their server, their platform, their brand, their code. you play by their rules, or fuck off to Daily Motion.

Trademark genericization limits the rightsgranted by IP law. Google it, and you can find good examples (heroin, q-tip, taser, etc).
The basis for regulation is simple: there's very little competition, and corporations cannot be trusted to self-regulate.

you are sounding an awful lot like a Socialist, son...

Thankfully I'm not American so Socialist isn't a curse word for no reason these parts.

not an argument

...

Nigger

the problem with "discriminating against conservatives" is that the conservative movement is choked with con artists, conspiracy theorists, and literal hate-mongers. I mean, yeah blood-spitting feminists hate men... yadda yadda. but those feminists didn't march on Charlottesville with torches and Nazi flags.

shutting down discussion of libertarian ideals, or how lax tax policies can spur business growth is pretty vile. But why should Youtube defend nutjobs who scream about how Hillary Clinton is running a child rape prostitution ring out of a DC pizza joint? Or stupid shit like Uranium One? or people who claim that the American Civil War had nothing to do with slavery? or climate change denialists? or antivaxxers?

I understand that it's the case, but is this really OK?
I mean, there is a massive difference between my own house, and youtube or twitter that is simply huge and has influence on millions and millions of people.
While throwing someone out of my house doesn't affect anyone, the ability to do the same from their platform enables youtube, twitter, goggle, facebook etc. to control discourse to their liking. I'm not sure I'm OK with private corporations having that kind of power.

So, guilt by similarity? Taking logic to the extreme allows you to justify anything, like correlating your political opponents with communists even though they aren't, most of the time.

The American Civil war was about the economic and political effects that slavery had on white people and the country, not a moral war against slavery.

okay... except that is exactly what happened in the 1950s. Mary Tyler Moore and Dick Van Dyke played a married couple, on TV, yet their characters slept in separate beds. the only Black characters on TV were servants. in fact, there were no POCs, because any non-White character was played by a White actor.

but stories with more realistic depictions of relationships are more compelling, so realism crept into media. Social change made it easier to embarass media producers for stupid shit like putting Jerry Lewis in yellowface in Breakfast At Tiffany's, so more non-White actors got roles.

In fact, some shows earned huge followings by deliberately bucking the trends, like Star Trek, with its multinational cast and blatantly Liberal bent. Artists and creators were shut out by conservative media gatekeepers, so they used outside means to build their audiences. Eventually, they became too popular to ignore, and were able to smash down the barriers. Hip Hop had been popular for decades, before Run DMC paired with Aerosmith to get "Walk This Way" on MTV, unleashing the Hip Hop juggernaut that rules the music industry, to this day

>POCs
We call them niggers

Anything that is not the US Government is not a free speech platform, because literally nothing but the US Government has to follow the 1st Amendment.

shit talking and slinging insults is not "discussing things". that crap is designed to shut down discussions. you don't call someone a nigger because you have a valid point. its because you are trying to overload their emotions and piss them off. you don't want rational discussions. you want a fight

Lincoln actually had to be really clever to have the law to free slaves passed even on their own side. It was definitely not the goal of the war to free slaves, but it would be foolish to say it wasn't "about" slavery.

People still use Xbox Live?

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>character censored
>company has leftwing agenda

so, which is it? does Square want huge tits, or doesn't it?

>charlottesville was a republican/conservative movement
Its sad you have to strawman that hard to make a point

so they become a provider and not a platform

honestly as schmucky as it is, they're covering their asses for the future internet law when it passes.

Okay, cool. Now what happens when big tech like google becomes more powerful than the government?

Riddle me this
What do you think would happen if /pol/ got deleted?
Do you think for 5 seconds they would just fuck off and disappear and not go fucking apeshit on every other board they inhabit?
What do you think would happen if this got applied to the internet? Where people that discuss edgy shit couldn't integrate anywhere else?
Are you ACTUALLY stupid enough to think it would solve the problem?

Why do you equate the free speech with the US Constitution's 1st Amendment? The concept is much bigger than just that one line.

Fuck off nigger.
Murricans unironically have more freedom of expression than most of us Europoors could wish for.
Half of our nations have demented shit like "hate speech" in our laws.

moot deleted it at least once in the past, no?

>corporations are not governing bodies

how are they not if they're restricting legal speech? corporations, are, in effect, an extension of the state

that's literally fascism

This point completely capitulates the moment you realize he ended up putting it back.

The concept is just a concept. If there is now law to enforce it, it's meaningless in this discussion. The 1st Amendment is often brought in and confused with it because that's where the concept ever came closest to being a law. And likely the closest it ever will.

you're literally retarded

he deleted /new/ and that spilled over into literally everywhere else, making the need for /pol/ apparent

But he didn't put it back for that reason?

When these platforms start to become the main source of communication around the world for millions of people, they need to be considered a public place. Lets not forget that many companies will not hire you if you do not have a facebook, and you don't exist to some people if you don't have one.

look at it this way, why do we go on Twitter, Youtube, and all? to find things to educate and entertain ourselves. if a jewish person gets on Youtube and sees tons of videos denegrating his religion and claiming that his great uncle Hershel didn't actual die in Dachau, how is this helping anyone? let alone helping Youtube?

if a trans kid gets on Twitter to talk to some people about dealing with the transition, and gets sent death threats 24/7, how is this good for Twitter?

now, the obvious answer is "the world is not your hugbox, deal with it, pussy." but, the world is also not Fight Club. And if the world is not a hugbox, why can't spaces on social media be? if I want to have a club for anime nerds, in my basement, why can't I do the same thing on social media? still a hugbox for idiots who like cartoon tiddies too much.

this is the question Social Media is facing: what is the cost of letting a few caustic shitheads run wild? Actually, that question gets answered every time some middle schooler kills themself because of online bullying.

Well nothing wrong with this really. ITs like them signs at some store where they put a "we can refuse service for any reason" sign up inside. So really this is just like that in that it is their private property that they may have opened up to the public for whatever the fuck reason. But at the same time it is private property and hence they can choose to do whatever the fuck with it just like choosing and picking who and what is allowed in it.

Seriously this is straight as capitalistic as it gets. Since if nerds really had a problem with this shit then there really is nothing stopping them from trying to make a new console of their own and then build online infrastructures for said console. Sure it will be some what difficult and time consuming. But shit just like all the trannies in vidya maybe you lot should stop fucking whining like a bunch of pussy ass bitches and actually partake and do shit to change shit instead of just being a bunch of crybaby faggots.

This fucking disgusting USK logo, jesus christ

It is funny how liberals degenerate into authoritarian moral polices when their core values of "muh equality and tolerance" are being questioned.
Their only solution towards people who reject the idea that we should all live in a multicultural society where we all love one another is to basically become stalinists who suppress anyone who goes against the group think.

The funnies part is how utterly incapable they are at recognizing their own totalitarian tendencies.

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So you're just going to lie now in front of everybody in hopes no one actually will call you out?
Bold, but it's not going to work

>its their server, their platform, their brand, their code
See, this is where the platform vs publisher thing comes into play. The problem is these things like youtube, twitter, and google bounce between platform and publisher as it suits them.

IT"S NOT INCLUSIVE BECAUSE IT INCLUDES [THING YOU HATE]

>chuck-e-cheese
>the government

Can you show proof that is the reason he put it back or something?

>how is this helping anyone? let alone helping Youtube?
You could say this about a ton of inane shit though, and beyond that, any answers are entirely subjective. For instance, how does a holocaust denial video help me? It offers me a perspective i would never consider on my own.

>that question gets answered every time some middle schooler kills themself because of online bullying.
quit raising faggoty kids and they might not kill themselves over a couple hurt feelings

Please murricans, fucking kill everyone living in Silicon valley. I am sick and tired of their retarded morality sweeping over the western world.
Fucking kill everyone that has even visited that wretched place.

Twitter wants to be The News. they want to be the place where every online discussion happens. that cannot happen if a huge chunk of the discussion is trolls shitting in everyone's soup. this activity is fine for kids, but people who want to do actual business and gather information don't have time for dipshits calling everybody nigger.

Youtube wants to replace television. but TV is scripted and tightly controlled. why would I go on a platform that is full of liars, con artists, and racists, when TV is still a thing, and has none of that?

Why should I play an online shooter, if I am going to be harassed and abused? it is a fucking game, not an actual war zone. I play games to have fun, not to be called Nigger a hundred times an hour. if Xbox wants to sell me a subscription service to their game, they need to make that game FUN. getting insulted is not fun

The fact that he deleted it citing "It's stormfront"
And then put a board dedicated to calling it "Politically incorrect"
You absolute cock smoking ape

>how is this helping anyone? let alone helping Youtube?
what if i find it entertaining for people to deny the holocaust or send kids death threats?

FUCK NIGGERS, FUCK LEFTIES, FUCK JEWS, FUCK TRANNIES, AND FUCK WOMEN!

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>cherry picking

i thought mute buttons existed for a reason

This is ancap garbage motivated by cultural marxism; the corporations take the place of the government. The console market is subsidized by billion dollar multinationals, and th only people who are able to step in are other multinationals, like Google. There's no way for a small company to step in because of the anti-competitive entry barriers of hardware deals and software exclusivity.
It's common knowledge that moot couldn't handle the shitstorm and had to cave in

posting messages online ≠ speech

You're missing my point. You are only okay with it because they are protecting these people and that's fine. What if they didn't though, and they were doing awful things? You can't just assume they will always do this.
Being able to silence someone just because you don't agree with them should not be the way.

Allowing big social media companies to do anything they want with their platforms will lead us into a dystonia due to their immense social control.

Counter point: block, ignore, mute, avoid, etc features exist. That guy on twitter who keep tagging me with NIGGER? blocked. That guy in a video game that keeps calling me nigger? Muted. All those youtube channels about reptilians and flat earth? ignored.

And that's not even getting into the fact that news and tv are complete garbage.

Online is pretty much part of real life now. The laws are going to catch up.

they would go to another board, and I would finally have enough motivation to ditch this stupid site. Do I think these autistic shut ins would actually leave their basements and go out, into the world to cause mayhem? no. they would find another website, at the worst.

this "Gamers Rise up" meme is bloviating nonsense. humans have pretty sharp thresholds for discomfort, and will accept all kinds of crap to keep below that threshold. if the extend of political discussion is shouting "niggercuck" online, then you aren't likely to go out and try to join a movement. you are going to stay within your comfort bubble and find somewhere else to shout your nonsense

>All those youtube channels about reptilians and flat earth? ignored.
Wake up peon don't ignore the facts forever

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People said the same thing about the mosque livestream guy
Enjoy looking at the small part of the bigger picture, mouth breather

This.
The best friends I have are the ones with whom I can talk shit about niggers, jews and trannies, without having to worry about some fragile little cunt throwing a shitfit for using the wrong words.

>mfw a leftist aquintance of mine got super mad at me once for laughing at the Jerry Springer midget fight sketch.

I fucking hate those moral police cunts so god damn much.

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At the very least, I find all that stuff pretty fascinating. Have to admit though, some of the stuff makes too much sense, like jews being aliens who lack any emotional empathy.

you should read more of the thread. public spaces are maintained by the government. private spaces are maintain by the entities paying for those spaces. if your role is "citizen" or "constituent" then you are the boss. if your role is "consumer" then you ain't got shit to say

Why is this the strawman retards use to justify censorship?

The digital space is the new public place.

>getting insulted is not fun
bants are fun, if you cant handle bants that just means you're a pussy ass bitch

some of you motherfuckers really need to get off the computer and go outside. like seriously.

And now the argument is twitter and google are so huge and influential, they are public spaces.

dystopia***