Face it. You don't like Fallout 3 or New Vegas. You like your own bastardized version of it...

Face it. You don't like Fallout 3 or New Vegas. You like your own bastardized version of it, where you replaced all the shit elements about the game (read: everything ranging from movement to gunplay and graphics) with mods that fix said issues. These games are objectively TRASH if played vanilla and if you need mods to make a game playable, is it even a good game?

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I love New Vegas and i've never installed a single mod, fuck you.

People still mod Bethesda games?

I still like vanilla fallout new Vegas and I played it on the 360 so suck my ass

Only mods I use are radio mods and sometimes TTK increasers

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Not even technical mods that fix this game's poor programming? Bullshit.
Modding Bethesda games is the only way to enjoy them. There's a reason these games have such a big modding community; the vanilla experience is so shit they need external help to make the game functional and playable.

Nope, played vanilla for months when it came out

honest to god, not a single godamn thing

Vanilla New Vegas is one of the greatest RPG's of all time

>Not even technical mods that fix this game's poor programming? Bullshit.
I have 300 hours on the 360 version.

This. Guy is most likely a zoomer pc baby.

I played and enjoyed Fallout 3 on Xbox 360, what now faggot?

This was so primitive that I bought the DLC on fucking disks.

But user, I never modded my Fallout games even once.

waifus and floppy dongs aren't really my cup of tea so mods aren't important to me.
I understand modding Morrowind and Oblivion but they have come a long way since those early stumbling steps.

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Same.

don't tell me what I like retard, this was my favourite game of all time when I first played it on my xbox and its my favourite after I got it on PC too

meant to reply to OP. Now I am the retard

>Modding Bethesda games is the only way to enjoy them. There's a reason these games have such a big modding community; the vanilla experience is so shit they need external help to make the game functional and playable.
I don't understand how people could support a company like this and act like they make great games.

Mods extending the life of a game is great (Mount&Blade) but if you need them to make it enjoyable at all something is wrong.

Damn they had mods on the ps3 version? How did I miss that.

> Mount and Blade
Mods make that game. Vanilla is little more than a proof of concept demo by a competent studio.

Because it isn't true you dipshit.
Most of you fuckers just pretend that these games are the absolute worst things on the planet so that you can try to fit in here.
Pathetic and cringe worthy.

who plays these games with mods
they just look gross and slams your fps

It may be the old timers thinking of Morrowind.
That game needed all the help it could get.

I recently replayed New Vegas without mods because I had the same thought that you did, OP.
It was fun because I enjoy the story/worldbuilding/writing/dialogue/etc., but most of the time I couldn’t help but think of how much better it’d be with mods.
I replayed fallout 3 without mods and it just sucked though

Warband is still pretty fuckin fun without mods tho

Face it, I like New Vegas but have nothing but disdain for Fallout 3. Trying to pit them together in some vague argument is a fool's errand. Remember that you're too stupid to be subversive, this advice will serve you all throughout your life.

Please stop making this thread

Fallout 4 is a better game than either of those games

New Vegas is the mod, moran

I agree, they are trash of the same level and the only redeeming factor is that they are huge mod platforms. It's hilarious seeing obsidian fanboys deluding themselves into thinking this hunk of shit is any better than fallout 3.

im doing a new vegas no mods run again this year like rn

Same here, with the Vicious Wastes mod. Just about finished Dead Money and I'm completely stacked with supplies since I didn't need to use any of it since I got Rad Child.

First playthrough in NV was mod free. Most mods I dabbled with were expansion mods as I played it on a laptop, so most graphical mods were off limits.

>itt, op doesent understand that mods increase replayability and very few people played either game with mods on their first play through

im doing the run just to do opposite of what id do in my normal runs to do faction quests i wont do usually

I played both on PS3.

>if you need mods to make a game playable, is it even a good game?
No, it's a shit game. Anyone that thinks otherwise is literally retarded.

I have played both vanilla for the first time this year, along with FO1&2. I can safely say they are enjoyable games as they are, and I don't understand why someone would just make a thread like this. If you don't like them, don't play them lol

i played it on the 360 too. super fun

lmao had 200 hours+ on NV vanilla before even THINKING about mods. Never crashed ONNNCEE. NOT ONCE.

Fuck FO3 tho

Same. I replayed FO3 and New Vegas a couple years ago; New Vegas didn’t crash on me a SINGLE time, but 3 would crash every time I alt-tabbed out of the game.

I played the entire game completely unmodded.
I didn't learn about modding until after I became obsessed with New Vegas.
Mods only made it even better

Based. Truth pilled. /Thread

600 hours unmodded

I absolutely hate gameplay replacer mods. When I go to install mods, I typically go for Quest or companion mods.

But even then, I love Base F3. I love Base FNV nearly as much, but its main world is bland as shit.

I've played through vanilla twice, I love almost every aspect of the game because I think that some of the jank just adds to the charm, so if I were to install some mods, what would that be?
>graphics mods
Don't care about good graphics
>gameplay mods
I don't play NV for the combat, and the explosions are already satisfying
>story content
Can't match the quality of the original so why bother

this design is shit, too ornamental/decorative. It looks like something out of a fantasy setting with master dwarf craftsmen not a post apocalyptic scavenger world.

the only good thing about Fallout 4 is the improved combat, all the usual bethesda jankiness is still there but with worse writing and an even more empty and boring world

*and the companions, specifically nick valentine and Hancock

This. Mods are fucking cancer.

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I played both on 360 and enjoyed them...I have the GOTY versions that I got for like $20 each years ago. NV is better but 3 is good, too.

I think NV is a good game, my favorite Fallout. After all these years I'm still playing it and yes that's means I'm still revisiting the main storyline/dlcs/secondary missions.
But since 2015 I don't play vanilla anymore. Anyways that doesn't mean I use over the top mods like Dragbody's Overhauls, fanmade quest mods or even mods that add more difficulty to the game.
I only have a bunch of new textures, the android gurl, an ENB and some fixes, I don't need anymore.

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I played both on ps3

I play both the games vanilla.
The only time I mod 3 is when I play it on pc because it wasn't made for modern operating systems and needs a little love to get it to work.

The games are old. There's nothing wrong with a little nodding to get it to work on new hardware.

I can't put my old command and conquer gold edition in and expect it to work at all. Or my old system shock 1 copy.

Ironically shock 2 still works and I can play tiberian sun, Rollercoaster tycoon 2 and fallout 1.

Shit works differently.

I love both the games as close to factory zero as possibly and feel most mods make it really bad.

Have I tried mods? Yes. Does my annual replay include mods? No.

Your just looking to start shit. The series wouldn't have survived this long if not for the fact they still know how to make a game. Even if 76 bombed (I like it and I think they're fixing it) there's still another single player fallout coming in the next 5 years.

imagine being this much of a faggot.

Go update your anime sex mod. Make sure the realistic horse cocks mod doesn't interfere with the realistic breast physics mod, as they both modify the game's base physics code.

The modding community is huge because the kind of people who play the games want to jerk off while dressing up waifus...no one cares about gameplay.

The question here is how many mods and what type of mods are you using.
That game doesn't looks or feel Vanilla so indeed it's a heavily modded version of the Vanilla game.

Only version I’ve played is the Xbox 360 version and it’s still one of my favorite games

Agreed. I was an 11-year-old zoomer when Skyrim came out and I played it with about 200 mods after my first playthrough. Then I got older and realized most of those mods were poor quality bullshit that only served to bloat the game. Same thing with New Vegas. Most of these faggots talking about how mods prolong a game's lifespan are liars because mods don't add enough content or fundamentally change these games to keep you playing for a decade. Most of these faggots install anime titty mods because they are addicted hedonists who can't keep porn and games separate. Then they come here to shit on the vanilla experience of the games they jerk off to daily.

What is "heavily modded" for you?
I don't use mods that change the game so my game feels and plays like the original NV.
It doesn't have new outfits, armors, animations, weapons, quest or npcs it only have some textures, fixes and the android girl.

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I love Fallout New Vegas because it's comfy and has memorable characters/storylines/quests, even if some of them are bugged to hell, but honestly it doesn't even feel like a Fallout game. Fallout 3 replicates the feel of the original games way better.

Fallout NV also has a million technical issues and unfinished quests, and the combat is dogshit.

Basically if I had to fix Fallout New Vegas to make it actually good as a game, I'd:

>make world open and bigger, so there's more than 20 metres between two major locations, make it feel more like a wasteland.
>not have it be one big "U"-shaped railroad
>make the different factions actually have unique different quests, not just copy pastes of each other.
>make it if you join more than one major faction, you can actually spy on the other and gives you unique options for completing quests, like the one where you have to find the mole in the NCR monorail station. it should be like, if you've also gotten the quest from the Legion, you can rat out the mole using the info you got from the legion, but it also compromises your position in the legion.
>fix all technical issues and bugs with combat and uncompleted quests.

>WMIM isn’t compatible with WMX and EVE
>new WRP version requieres WMIM
REEEEEEEEEEE

HEARTACHE NUMBER ONE WAS WHEN YOU LEFT ME

I NEVER KNEW I COULD HURT THIS WAY

AND HEARTACHE NUMBER TWO WAS WHEN YOU CAME BACK AGAIN

YOU CAME BACK BUT NEVER MEANT TO STAY

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Also WMIM isn’t compatible with BLEED.
Fuck that mod.

3 and new vegas are fucking unbearable to play in vanilla

Never understood why some people care about WMX that much. I can say the same about other useless mods (in my opinion) like Project Nevada.
WMIM is a Godsend.

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Never modded New Vegas in any playthrough. In fact, I modded all of the New Vegas songs in to FO4 within like 2 hours of having the game to try and get some NV vibes.

Project Nevada is a meme for some Tacti-Cool gameplay surpassed by Solid Project.

Solid Project isn’t available anymore.
We have to wait for B42 full version.

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The entire layout of the Fallout series sucks...it is not user friendly...It is boring as fuck to walk around doing nothing for hours before you engage in interesting things...it is mind boggling to navigate all the unnecessary crap you have to do just to find an enemy to fight. This PS4 was a straight up waste of money...the controller is awful to use and learn...ZERO fun

brainlet

Why Solid Project was deleted from the Nexus?
>inb4 autism
I hope this wasn’t the case.

Becuase Nexus community sucks.

Source?

new vegas is enjoyable vanilla, i haven't touched fallout 3 in years. not many games have detailed dialogue like this, the world feels very alive in spite of the extreme clunkiness, the people of Vegas have a distinct culture that resonates between them.

I've said ot before and I will claim it for eternity.

Bethesda does not make games. They make frameworks. And they make great frameworks for modders to put together the game.Obsidian just did it so much better by actually making an alright game alongside their framework. It started at a good point instead of starting with nothing like other Bethesda titles, so of course this one is thought of as best. It actually had substance for modders to work with.

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i couldnt be bothered to read it so heres a response
sneed

ok, retard

Becuase the guy behind B42 project was jealous about Solid Project.

Most people have no fucking idea how hard it is to make open world games with RPG elements

So take the time to make it good, retard.

Would you rather have spritework or hallway shooters? Yes, even game developers and publishers need to earn money.

>tfw I think back to the days when my brothers and I nearly shot our balls off waiting for the GOTY edition of Oblivion to install to our 360.

I'll take sprite work if it means the game is good. I have no problem with sprite work or 8 bit shit if the game is good.

Don't buy games with 3D graphics then and stop complaining you cumstain

>i-it's hard to make big games
>so take the time to make it good
>y-ya well what about spritework!!!
>sure if the game is good
>don't fucking buy it then

ok actual retard

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Or perhaps I care more about ACTUAL shit that matters...not fake fantasy worlds that encompass all being...I shared an opinion as did you...but if you hate on people who live real lives...you should probably leave the basement and engage in human interaction from time to to time...it makes you sound like a dick with no real chance for pussy or lifestyle outside of here

why...do you...type like this...faggot

Ironic or not, you spent time typing this or pasting it, and that's sad.

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As did you my freindo...as did you

To infuriate you and make you type so loud that you wake your mom

I never used any mods. I'm the real mccoy, buckaroo.

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Let's say I agree with this. So what?

I played new vegas for the first time(after hating 4) on PC last year with the ONLY mods being stability and performance(no graphics, just better framerate and less crashes), and it's now one of my favorite all time games.
Even on my second playthrough my only mods were basic hi res texture packs and a weather mod.
>gunplay leaves a bit to be desired but the details in the guns and animations make up for it
>writing is fantastic
>characters are great
>graphics are men but i moved past it quickly
>music is great
>dlcs are AWESOME
It's not a perfect game by a longshot but I loved every second of it, so much that I came back to it often after seemingly breaking it(stutter remover is incompatible with win10 lol) to try and fix it because I missed playing it so much.
I love this game so fucking much

>add uncut quests, bugfixes and Sawyer mod
Im ok

Some of my favortie games are trash without mods... and vegan food tastes good if you put bacon and cheese on it.

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I dont remember the exact dialogue, but there is a part of new vegas where cass initiated dialogue about her backstory, and then halfway through started asking me about my own motivations and I was answering her backstory questions.
It wasnt too in depth and it was just for a second but it was as immersed as I've ever been in an RPG, I really felt like I was role playing

This.

I loved them, vanilla, on console, but when I was 13.

Quit stuttering you actual cocksucking faggot nigger

been playing since day one of fallout 3 (never played the first 2).
literally only installed my first ever mod 2 days ago (OC decorator on fallout 4).

No I played vanilla unmodded, for the first time in 2015, and loved it. One of my favorite games ever.

Correction, I don't like Fallout 3. New Vegas is really fun even without mods, the difference is you wont go back to the base game after you played with mods.

Just because you like mods better in the end didn't make the original shit.
Mods are developed past the games supported life span so its expected.

Also in most Bethseda games there's barely anyway to truly fix their issues even with mods, its all workarounds.

literally the only mods i play with New Vegas are performance mods and UI

NVSE, NVAC, JIP LN, 4GB Patcher, and Tick Fix, plus DarnUI and the FO4 loot menu

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Op is a faggot

is any game good besides irl?

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Youre the most pathetic person in this thread, sociopath

>t-t-t-t-t-t-his

Oh yes OP tell me how i play my games, please tell me more.
>Fallout 3 sucked massive cock without mods and New Vegas was a blast without mods

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very impressive that mods actually look further into posts and investigate profiles of certain users. Must have been one hell of a autistic guy when mod had to post comment.

>tfw jannies are being based but they're meant to not be based

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This. I've played vanilla all these years.

>these threads were made by one person using proxies but these other threads were not made by the same user using proxies
There is no way for them to know that.

>tfw only mod I use is Jsawyer Ultimate
I'm sorry that having to read upsets you Jimbo

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I honestly had the most fun playing new vegas the first time with absolutely no mods, then again it was the first game I played on my new pc, I think the reason I never finished it the second time despite countless attempts is because I modded it too much

I was a console pleb (so no mods) when FNV came out and I still managed to put 300+ hours into it over the years.

fpbp