Anyone else notice all these steps MS is taking to go 3rd party?

Sony Always Wins

>they even asked sony if they could bring MCC to ps4, but snoy said NO.
No, they didn't.

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There's only one other company that has lost more money than Sony for making videogames and that's Microsoft.
They have a bunch of valuable IPs but no one wants to play them in their dogshit system. They only had a market in America since they lost badly in Europe and Asia to Sony and they continued to fucked it up time after time in the last 2 gens.
Hell, no one really cares about Halo anymore. Their fanbase is pretty fucking mad about what they've done to it. That was their console seller.
This is what happens when your company is managed by Pajeets.

I don't want Tears of Gaylo, give me Sunset Overdrive and Forza.

Feminism of War is the kind of shit Snoy would want.

>i don't know what they discuss up above me
>S-see? it was FAKE
seething xnigger

sunset overdrive is not only on pc via xbox store, but its on steam too. forza is on xbox store but also included in game pass

The point is to sell well not to get respect of faggots gaymers. If you don't get all the consoles of a generation you don't deserve posting in here.

thats a seething snoybaby, not an xchad. are you so[NYGGERS] illiterate?

Who cares? Good for snoyniggers I guess.

The main reason Halo didn't come to PS4 is that it had too much gameplay.

They know that they would be better off having their services everywhre instead of trying to sell a console nobody wants.

>Microsoft operates Xbox console at a loss and makes up for it via software and "player engagement" whatever that means, meanwhile the rest of Microsoft operates at a positive making a killing profit via Windows OS and all their long standing tech deals with everyone and their mom
>Sony found a way to operate Playstation coinsole at a profit with the PS5 by capitalizing on easy PR and first party success, meanwhile the rest of Sony operates at a massive loss with the biggest offenders being Sony Pictures and their Phones/Cameras
Imagine what would happen if one of them got their whole company's shit together

What happened to Halo? I haven't played it since Halo 3.

I fully support this move (though I don't really give a shit about Gears). Console exclusives suck and has no benefits to consumers.

The only remotely positive thing you can argue for exclusives is that it promotes companies to make more and better games to outdo their competitor and frankly it's hard to argue this is even the case anymore. First Party barely invest in that many exclusives anymore and most end up uninspired crap that only exist to milk a brand. Maybe you can argue some like Nintendo treat their exclusives well but even then they still have shit like New Super Mario and Pokemon which are recycled crap that only exist because they need to throw in something to justify buying their console.

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The console war 1 is over
Console war 2 is going to begin soon

I don’t care enough about Gears to read the article but I am curious as to why they want to do that. Is that really what they said or is this just another sensationalist headline?

Microsoft has always been a software company first and foremost. They had their foray with the xbox as a standalone platform but they're realized that making software for everything is better business and that the xbox should just be a low-budget casual alternative to a gaming PC.

Conrtana was the villain the whole time and chief was actually a woman conscious transplanted into a strong male body.

>comicbook.com
They literally write articles based on Yea Forums threads.

343i decided to turn it from a Military Hard Sci-Fi Space Opera into a Power Ranger CoD Clone about Space Jesus and his Tsundere AI GF

>Phil Spencer
>PS
>PlayStation
Oh my God, he's a Sony bug.

sony chad here. I can't even tell what you game I'd be interested in of theirs. can someone name a few? I know gears and halo, both of which are long past their peak, and forza, which is a car game.

Oversaturation + shitty unwanted/unneeded COD gameplay mechanics that everyone hated. When pointed out, 343 Studios went on a patronizing rant saying that gamers need to evolve and that if they don't the gameplay will evolve without them.
They also butchered completely the Halo aesthetic, which was pretty much the most interesting shit in the game and also made the most classical mistake in any setting which has a mysterious character (frontrunners? forerunners?) by trying to explain who they are and butcher the mystery around it.
I'm not even a Halo fan but I can understand why people are fucking pissed about it.
Halo died when Bungie was sold to Activision.

Uh, well, you see...

I think xbox scarlett is microsofts final attempt to salvage xbox, if it fails they'll pivot to multiplat software through offering the gamepass to sony and nintendo

as for me i'd only care about gears 2/3 and halo 3

Keep that shit, only ABAP stuff is allowed.

Based And coffeepilled.

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>a future where the only two consoles are PlayStation and Nintendo
I'm okay with this

yeah maybe you should ask your fellow snoy trannies at resetera, they can help you out. they helped me pick which estrogen pills I should take and basically just made my transition so much easier. hey have you ever played uncharted? I love that the new one has 2 (T W O!) female leads.

#4theplayers

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They're never putting Halo on the PS4, cope.

It's going home.

Bungie's post-Halo 3 Halo games were shit though and were inconsistent with Halo 1-3.

I can see MS going 3rd party if their next console tanks.

the best thing about being a sony chad is I don't even like uncharted, but im still sated with all the other exclusives they offer.

cope harder faggot.

But they will... Xbox is third party now. They're putting all their games on every platform. It's only a matter of time.

>got 6 months of Game pass (pc) for $1
>playing gears, blair witch, outer worlds on release date and many other games they add every month (next month they add AC Odyssey)
>meanwhile Snoy paypigs have to buy it all for $60 per game

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autist

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ft.com/content/3a3419f4-78b1-11e9-be7d-6d846537acab
Cope, Halo will be on Switch before it ever touches the PS4 or even 5 which is never.

Based

>cope that you can't play this decrepit and dead franchise

the absolute state of xfags.

They already are third party.
youtube.com/watch?v=TDsJTfGepOA

Here's some videos that should show you everything
youtube.com/watch?v=ZCTyWf4EI7U
youtube.com/watch?v=6qfx9eoB-88
Here's a good one that goes in depth about Halo Multiplayer as well as 343i's seemingly disdain for the franchise and fanbase
youtube.com/watch?v=ypjLel6SVpk
Then here's a good comparison of Bungie's Halo music vs. 343i's Halo music. First Bungies
youtube.com/watch?v=bW8nG7n_M3s
youtube.com/watch?v=yWh9l8RSkPk
And now 343i's
youtube.com/watch?v=PUrsOQanozo
youtube.com/watch?v=MKVbMZGeA3Y

Honestly that's about all there is. Microsoft has long neglected software in favour of hardware and services. They've only recently made a push to fix that after the ass kicking they got in eighth gen.

Yes, cope

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I dont even want Gears on the Godstation 4, take that garbage to the Epic games store

It's good to know that the biggest Sony shitposters are Snoy tranny pedos, noted for whenever we have another Halo thread.

>PC redditors excited they can play halo now
Why is PC so no games?

Never played Gears since 1 on my 360. And if it ever came out on ps4 I wouldn't even play it, because not only are the sequels fucking garbage, you would have to think of the actual shame of xbox releasing one of their titles on another system. Absolutely embarrassing honestly, if I had to play it it would be on PC.

Why in the fuck would anybody buy an Xbox, if Microsoft is porting every game they make to other systems?

gamereactor.eu/microsoft-doesnt-need-you-to-buy-an-xbox-scarlett/
>"I actually never really need that customer [who already owns an Xbox One] to go buy a new piece of hardware," Spencer told CNET. "The business is around software and service growth. That is the profitable part of the business; selling the hardware is not the profitable part of the business."

enjoy your copy paste cinematic third person "shooter" clones

>uncharted God of war
>uncharted zombies days gone
>uncharted Dino robot horizon
>uncharted mature emotional story driven the last of us

your only good games are bloodborne and Spiderman, and Spiderman is way overrated. besides those, you've got weebshit; great for weebs, but they tend to not be good games. since I built a pc it's really made me come around to the realization that xchads and nintenbros are fine, it's you faggot snoys that always stir shit and instigate E-peen measuring contests. I seriously hate you and your shitty company.

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>defeated Sega
>defeated Xbox
>decimated Nintendo

Imagine the face of someone who typed all that shit lol

GOW, HZD, TLOU, and Uncharted and soon Days Gone are all sales juggernaut that millions of people enjoyed and will all get sequels. Keep seething nintendie

They were forced to make more Halo games after 3 for them to finally split from MS as part of their contract, even if they really didn't want to. ODST was a different perspective and a great fucking game, it was sold as standalone game and cost quite a bit for what it offered because Bungie forced it to count as one of those two games. Reach was the other and it shows they were tired of Halo. Reach had plenty of issues but it was still a half-decent game, it was nowhere near the creative fuck up of 4 or 5 or the technical fuck up of the remasters. Only now after nearly a decade are 343 showing potential with their promises to finally fix and improve MCC, bring Halo to PC, and Halo 6 looking to be something that isn't complete dogshit.

you don't have to imagine

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>people here conveniently forgetting sony partnered with MS to port games to the PC
its all for shitposting anyway, why bother

>making up bullshit
kek

>McDonald's sells the most burgers. they're simply the best, enjoyed by millions. they are the greatest burger company on the planet and they're gonna keep winning

Inb4 food analogy

Thanks for the cloud, Xcuck
gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-06-07-sony-there-is-no-scenario-where-the-playstation-and-xbox-platforms-combine

Gears 1-3 are some of the best multiplayer shooters of all time

we've known that they have been trying to get out of the console space for years now

here, it's me on the right. sorry that you aren't with us, snoy. we'll pencil you in after jamals appointment, we know you love sloppy seconds.

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you're a brainlet for that analogy user

>t-t-thanks for L-letting us use your servers, we're too stupid to build our own

you're the cuck here, retard

>he's actually seething

i can tell by the way you aren't explaining how i'm a brainlet, rather than just saying "NIGGER" and closing the tab. please, tell me how i'm wrong? you said "these games are big sellers, thats why they are good" and i provided an example showing why that perspective is flawed.

>i'm retarded, and here's proof lol
>wow relax bro i was only pretending
keep crying to resetera snoybabby

their games aren't interesting enough to become 3rd party

the absolute state of this onions boy.

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Sega has done extremely well just as a publisher, if Microsoft follows them they only stand to make a profit. In an ideal world, the only console on the market would be Nintendo because those draconian fucks have a legit claim for their first party shit, everyone else should simply be a PC publisher, especially Sony.

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how are video games that ALL sell for $65 comparable to McDonalds, a fast food chain where 10 bucks can earn you a full meal in a matter of 5 minutes and that price.convenience being a large factor drives the sales. Clearly, when you buy dinner at a fancy steakhouse, you get higher quality for a much higher price compared to McDonalds. Video games all sell for the same price. Nobody buys TLOU over some other game because its more affordable/convenient to buy than any other video game.
The fact that I have to explain this to you surely means you are a brainlet.

I don't care if Bungie was forced, I don't understand how it's so hard to build off the original Halo games concepts, that's what people want and love from Halo, this is why Halo 1 and 3's campaign are considered the best and why Halo 2 and 5's along with ODST and Reach are considered the worst and why Halo 4's campaign is just mediocre. Bungie showed they didn't want to make anymore Halo games and their laziness affected their future games after Halo. You fake Halo fans always try to butter Bungie up every time they fucked up, it makes me mad that 343 thought it was a good idea to pull a Halo 2 with Halo 5. Bungie tried to replace Chief with Arbiter in Halo 2 but after the backlash they threw those ideas out and turned Arby into a side character, 343 tried to do the same with Locke in Halo 5 and now Locke won't even be in Infinite. It's not hard to make a Halo game with fun gameplay, massive explorable levels, fun massive enemies like the Scarab with great enemy encounters and and fun vehicle combat with a great simple story that doesn't try to take itself to seriously. I'm glad 343 is starting to get it, Bungie forgot that after Halo 3.

*Halo game's concepts

They want to spread their IP's everywhere so people buy Gaming PC's, Xbox Game Pass, and XCloud, and maybe Xboxes if you're in the USA

They see Google Stadia as their future competitor, not Sony

Wow they're throwing in the towel you gotta be a fool to get the Scarlet

wait what? 6 months? I thought I only got a month?

>dominated every gen
360 says "wut?"

Wii BTFO of both, but PS3 wasn't even "beating" the 360 until VERY VERY late into the generations life, and that generation was like 10 years, so the PS3 was third place for about 8 of them.

It's such a shiity term too. These losers on here all alike. Yea Forums is a septic tank.

>Gears 5 now has an insane female as an MC
It does make more sense as a ps4 game if you think about it.

If you have gold before buying the 1 dollar promo you will receive game pass for the entirety of your remaining gold. Something I and many people have done is stack the gold as high as you can (3 years) before doing the promo, meaning you'll get 3 years of gamepass for the cost of 3 years of gold (if you don't have it) plus 1 dollar.

If you've already done the 1 dollar promo, try and cancel the subscription asap, and you'll get refunded. This is how I did it, I canceled same day, got 3 years of gold from keys, then gamepass.

WARNING: YOU SHOULD NOT BUY GOLD AFTER GAMEPASS, IT IS A 3:1 RATIO WHERE BUYING 3 MONTHS OF GOLD AFTER HAVING GAMEPASS WILL GET YOU ONLY 1 MONTH OF GAMEPASS. GET GOLD FIRST

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This whole post is a mess lol. I'm just going to resort to reddit spacing to tackle the dozen different issues you have.

ODST is hardly a Halo game, and its campaign is one of Bungie's best works with an entirely different tone and goal from the core games.

Halo 2 was too ambitious for Bungie's own good, the scope was ridiculous and they actually deserved getting fucked over by MS then with the latter enforcing timetables and cutting content. People liked that they could play as the Arbiter, but the campaign was planned to be like twice as long as it already was despite having the most complex story of all of the games. MS laying down the law resulted in the retarded legendary difficulty balancing and massive cliffhanger, but that's what you get with Bungie. Halo 2 from a technical standpoint is pure chaos too, you should see what modders have to say about the engine and how Bungie managed to get a stable final product at all. I remember they were shitting themselves over the E3 demo miraculously not crashing, also the embarrassing Vista version that was used for MCC.

Reach was okay, just mediocre. The campaign was a return to CE in more ways than it had to be, some gameplay aspects like vehicles and dual wielding were removed for no reason. The new gameplay elements were bad too like bloom and armor abilities in an arena-inspired fps. But the story was good, they mixed it up and made it character driven while still feeling like Halo. They also started the shitty trend of reusing every environment in every game mode to save costs, with the worst of it being forgeworld knockoffs for every fucking map.

Halo 5 had a lot worse shit than fucking Locke that I'm not going to get into here. Nobody liked Locke because he was a gay nigger that added nothing to the story and was an unlikeable douche forced on you. Arbiter was a badass that you empathized with in the first five minutes of the game, he had great synergy with the chief.

>ODST is hardly a Halo game, and its campaign is one of Bungie's best works with an entirely different tone and goal from the core games.
I'm not getting this, ODST was one of the worst Halo games in the series with one of the worst campaigns in the series. On the Halo 2 issue only a furry or some retard started with Halo 2 loved playing the Arbiter, no one liked playing to the point he became a sidekick in Halo 3. Halo 2 was the biggest middle finger of 2004. Reach was the worst Halo game ever made and released on both a campaign and multiplayer front with only the multiplayer being slightly better than Halo 4's. Nobody liked Locke not just because he was a shit character but because people saw that 343 were repeating Bungie's mistakes with Halo 2 again. Nobody wanted another Halo 2 campaign, they wanted another Halo 1 and 3 campaign while continuing where Halo 4 left off. You just outed yourself as a Snoytranny pedo. I always knew the mentally ill loved Halo 2's campaign, ODST, and Reach, I bet you want Blue Team to stay in Infinite too, huh?

>snoy
Oh shit, I typed out a 2k character post for the retarded autist, but here I go again. Halo CE is my favorite campaign, it is flawless gameplay to me and the reused environments in the second half don't matter much to me with how differently those environments were used. Halo 3 is probably my second favorite, but Halo 2 has a lot of good things going for it and isn't far behind. Reach is a distant fourth but I still overall liked it. Only 4 and 5 are shit to me, with 5 being absolute garbage. Some might have been turned off from the Arbiter when it was released, but virtually everyone grew to like him and he made the games much better with a covenant perspective that made the Schism and UNSC alliance both possible and relatable for the player - nobody is going to like Locke or think he did anything helpful in ten years. I was actually a little sad seeing his character and the complexity of the story in 3 simplified so much compared to 2, which also applies to Truth turning into a retarded religious fanatic from a calculating tactician. For ODST stop fucking comparing it to the core games, it's a complete 180 from the usual Halo style and pulled off what it tried to do very well - it's a beautiful solemn experience with the best music in the franchise and great side lore.

Gears 5 needs to make money. They made the MC woman so things aren't looking so great for it.

Halo 2 was a waste of potential, if Joe didn't have his dick on for Elites it probably could have been good, the splitting all the levels in two while making them linear corridors didn't help. I'll gladly take both Halo 4 and 5 over ODST and Reach and I started with Halo 1. I don't understand how a studio could be so asshurt after Halo 3 that they decided to shit on Halo 1-3's canon.

They will never be fully third party. Unlike Sega they are not a purely video game company and will always be able to support their own hardware. They can treat consoles the way most people treat TVs and others treat computers.

This

>spend 8 years working on the first 3 games, want to do something else
>be forced to spend another 4 years on 2 more games after already sick of it
>I don't understand how a studio could be so asshurt after Halo 3 that they decided to shit on Halo 1-3's canon
I wonder why. Trying to shake up those last 2 games so they could actually care a little about it and prevent everything becoming stale was for the best, they would have been boring garbage if they just tried to recycle shit from older games. The changes they made to story were fine since they were spinoffs or prequels, it's not their fault 343 are creatively bankrupt. The only part of your argument that is reasonable is the gameplay changes introduced in Reach, those sucked and still plague the franchise today. A lot of Halo 2 level design is not as good as CE with the corridors and big fights with like 8 waves of enemies in a single area and the shitty boss fights, but it's still a great game that did a lot of great shit better than any other game in the franchise.

But do you want to know why basic arena style shooters aren't a thing anymore and why even in Halo the devs feel the need to constantly change the core gameplay? Because they get boring fast especially on consoles where movement and aiming are so limited. Halo was doomed in that sense from the very beginning, and that's also why shooters like cod exploded over it. Arena shooters are great but their own fame kills them very quickly.

Gears of War is no longer a "Killer App" and Halo is in limbo with no one sure in Infinite will resurrect or kill the series.

Long live Doom

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I've seen Infinite behind closed doors. This will be bigger than 3.

Also Phil Spencer wanted to bring MCC to PS4 back in 2015 so I wouldn't be surprised if Infinite releases on PS4 too.

Microsoft confirmed bros of gaming?

>sell nothing outside of USA
>only profit is from PC ports

Gee what a surprise. Scarlett is already dead since they have no games, and even xbone retards cant wait for PS5. The amount of cheap xbones on craigslist is staggering. Microsoft is honestly the worst corporation of the past couple decades, successful only due to a monopoly from the 90s. They should have never entered gaming and have contributed nothing meaningful except 1 IP that is dead now. All they did was ruin it by creating American dudebros and creating paid online

the new gears look shit even with all the feminist crap aside.
how the fuck do you manage to copy the good enemy designs of the last 3 games to nearly 100% but just add enough small changes to make them all look super lame?

>but PS3 wasn't even "beating" the 360 until VERY VERY late into the generations life
Incorrect. The PS3 outpaced the 360 world wide almost the entire generation outside of the US, and even the US weekly charts were close.

It was because the 360 came out 1 entire year before it, almost 2 years in some regions. Remember the PS3 only came to Europe in 2007, the 360 was released worldwide in 2005.

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they are planning for a time when consoles aren´t a thing anymore in general.
companies don´t want to sell you consoles anymore only subscription based services

It's finally shifting back to a PC-dominated market like it was before the time of the NES, but the consoles are dragging all of their cancer with them. Steam is not the best at all but it has done well by any standards you could reasonably apply to it. Having more digital markets as competition is a good thing, but it all goes to shit when every single one of those markets has a subscription fee for access or archaic customer service/return policies or slaps on awful DRM to everything or some other ridiculous ToS to "protect" their IPs. You've already seen that with Fallout 76, imagine that more or less applied to every major developer or publisher who can afford to set up their own distribution service. It's going to be madness, something will have to give for it to stabilize.

>Before the time of the NES
There were three years between the time of Atari and the time of the NES and in North America, PCs were never 'dominating' the market for vidya. Totally different story in other places like Europe though, where consoles took years to really break into the mainstream up against cheap home micros.

I remember in the UK you didn't see many people with PS3s because they were so damn expensive compared to the Xbox. Pretty much everyone at secondary school had a 360 while I can only recall one or two saying they had a PS3.

>I've seen Infinite behind closed doors

And my dad works at Nintendo...

I was on all sides down under in that era. First I was that kid with a Wii, then I got a used 360 right around MW2, then that red ringed and I jumped ship to the PS3 slim I still have hooked up today. Also got my first PC later into that era.

Yep, shit was like 500 quid or something, but at the same time, the 360 eventually went up to like 500 ish after you bought all the shit accessories that made it equal to a base PS3, like play and charge, XBL sub, that shit wireless dongle I remember costing about 60 quid. M$ were truly Jews back then with addons.

Fuck forced wireless controllers, fuck paying to use your own internet.

Good god, the fucking wireless dongle. There were even two versions of the thing. I think the 'Xbox 360 Arcade' is the falsest economy ever presented in vidya.

I got a cheap third-party charger with two ports and battery packs for £20, you played with one while the other charged and simply swapped them over when the battery ran low. Never had any problems with it over the years and it more than paid for itself in savings on buying AA batteries.

Yeah same I literally didn't know anyone who owned a ps3 till like 2012. Everyone in my secondary school at the time and my other close friends all owned xbox 360s. I had so many friends on 360 I remember there was like a 100 friend limit or something I had to keep deleting people and re adding people later just because I knew so many people and had so many people who wanted to play. Xbox live was piss cheap back then as well you could get a year for 20 quid.

were there any Japanese xclusives for the xbone even? They must be getting dommed over there, shoulda accepted the offer for Xbox to play dreamcast games back when it was failing.

Is Phil single-handedly ruining the brand? Or is the MS machine a giant lumbering retard that's out of his control? I want to believe but they botch every well intentioned move they make

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Considering the xbox practically didn't even exist in Japan, I'm guessing no.

they're doing the same thing as when the Widows Phone failed and ended up going full Android. They are dropping Internet Explorer and joining Chromium too. Also Windows 10 is basically free... It seem that the stealing and selling their user's data is an incredibly profitable market.

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kek

And they ended up making the worse games in the series, Bungie can go fuck themselves.

they are also putting their games on Steam instead of just the Windows store.