What do you think about ID adding so much lore into Doom?

what do you think about ID adding so much lore into Doom?

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Nothing wrong with more lore, as long as they do it like the last game where you can ignore most of it and just play the game and dont shove it down your throat

Fine with me, as long I can shoot at things until they die.

Looks cool.

It worked out really well last time, if they keep going the way they were going I'll be fine with it.

Those angel designs are fucking boring. Bayonetta has set a really high bar for me.

optional lore is just about the best way to do it in a game like doom. have some environmental story telling to give an atmosphere and then let the player decide how much they want to know about the world.

I agree. If we're going to be shooting angels, they should at least as crazy as the demons.

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Yeah i don't dig the angel design. They look too cyberish.

So bets on them really being Angels, some kinda Hayden bullshit or just some demon fuckery?

I like it. But also take a couple extra steps to make it optional and skippable. I'm replaying the last Doom right now, and there is one or two cases where you're put into cutscene mode, watching characters do something where you can't react. I want the name game to give the player the chance to just do what Doomguy himself does in some cutscenes, smash comms screens or speakers or machines and just shut them up and keep going on his way, for the players that don't care.

That said, I don't like this "fighting angels" bit. Every game in the universe that deals with heaven and hell does it. We have so much hell to cover and so much potential for demons that adding a whole new realm to it just feels trying to do too much and end up with both halves half-baked and unsatisfying. Which is a particular shame because the lore was actually going in interesting directions like making interaction with hell ACTUALLY FUCKING DESPERATELY NECESSARY for mankind to not go extinct.

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I always figured they were some alien race that considered themselves angels and stylized themselves as such instead of actual angelic beings. Another cocky peg to knock down.

Don't care as long as I can shoot stuff

*locks you in a room for a few minutes until the chick finishes talking*
nothin personnel

inb4 this thread becomes a religion cringefest

Hopefully they'll be fun to fight.

GLORY KILLS FUCK YEAH EXTREME SO COOL this is halo with a dumbshit aesthetic

*Blocks DOOMguys path*

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>still like 6 enemies max on the screen at once
What the fuck are they thinking?

More lore means more things to kill.

Is that even angel? And if it is maybe there are lore reasons for such design

For some reason the thought of Doomguy being just yet another killer of aliens is a real step down from wrecking literal biblical Hell

That it's DOOM, not Serious Sam.

"Kill the monsters"

It's gay and I don't care

Original DOOM handled way more than what we're being given. This has been a complaint since D44M came out and they did not to even slightly improve it.

Have you even played doom and doom 2?

Do you think Hayden will be the final boss in a new, shiny mecha angel body?

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RIP AND TEAR OH YEAH LORE SUCKZ LOL!

That's the irony of it. Hell here is literal, and the Doom Slayer is biblical in his feats against them. These "angelic" aliens are posers and have no idea what they're getting themselves into. The Doom Slayer will rip them in two.

nuts.wad is not representative of the way the game was designed.

*boots up custom WAD with 300 demons in one room*
*circle strafes them for 700 hours while they slowly shamble around harmlessly and shoot completely off target*
Aah, now THIS is skillful, dangerous combat.
WTF bros why can't nu-Doom be this good? Hard to believe vidya is dead...

>doesn't play Nuts on a daily basis
okay zoomer

This

This
>Trying to find challenging doom wads
>lmao heres a bunch of enemies get fucked
I'll never play plutonia and tnt for this reason

Can you possibly exaggerate what I said more? Honestly. Shut up autist.

Its like half life though so while they talk i can pretty much bungle around, jump on shit, and look like an idiot with no additional responses to it.

Oh, I like that angle if they go with that
>Behold mortals, your salvation comes from the heave-WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

Based and fagpilled

>nuDOOM doesn't need any skill, it's so easy! Not like my classic DOOM!
>*Gets auto-aim for the entire Y-Axis*
>"It's sad to see how far DOOM has regressed!"
>*Shoots a 2D sprite*
>"It's just sad bros... the levels are so linear!"
>*Plays DOOM 2s Earth levels*

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no you can't, there's a part where you are locked in a very small room