How do we feel about Tales of Arise so far?

>The whole "MC can't feel pain and heroine hurts everything she touches"
That sounds so fucking cheesy, it just might work

This looks like they're trying to combine Zestiria and Berseria.

They're in Smash Ultimate Fighters Pass!
>Colette is possibly leaked by a Japanese user on twitter who said that the DQ hero has no female alts.
>Lloyd was leaked by Mii Swordfighter's glitch that is shared with Duck Hunt (which they leaked a playable Banjo)
>Every DLC fighter has to do with multiple entities (P. Plant summons Petey in its final smash and it can be seen watering Pikmin in the panorama only, the DQ hero has slime in his taunt and he can summon the other DQ heroes in his final smash, Joker has his Persona and he can summon Morgana in all of his taunts as well appearing in Joker's victory poses and his final smash along with the rest of the Phantom Thieves, Banjo and Kazooie are a duo like Duck Hunt and he can summon the Jinjonator and the Jinjos in his final smash)
Lloyd and Colette will might share one spot and they might function like the cut Diddy and Dixie duo in Brawl.

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cool xeno ripoff

I won't feel anything unless they confirm and show more party members. Then based on them, I will be able to draw a conclusion.
Tales MC's are literally just forgettable filler with very few exceptions, and the games are fully carried by the party members. If they pull a Zestiria or Graces, it's done before the gameplay even comes into play.

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It'll be schlock just like God Eater, Fun maybe but still schlock

Wow this guy looks badass! He’s-
>his voice
Yeah nah.

Yea personally I'm a sucker for cheesy shit like that

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Yri is the best character in vesperia

nigga looks like artorias

Want this to be true to get to watch the seething from those that pair Lloyd not with Colette.

lets wait and see exactly how many belts our MC has before we jump to any irrational conclusions.

Old and busted

From the outfits we've seen in trailers so far, there's next to no unneccessary belts

>Lloyd not with Colette.
Well, yeah. No way Nintendo is going to endorse /ss/ by having Loyd with Raine or Sheena.

WELL THEN THATS A FUCKING PROBLEM DONT YOU THINK?????????

well, i'm not familiar with this game or the series it belongs to, so i'm feeling pretty neutral about it

Looks great

> Protag doesn't look like a faggot, actually geared for combat, armor reminds me of artorias
> Female protag looks cute, not exagerated features
> Few seconds of gameplay look cool
> Actual buget

looks good, might pick it up

generic. dont like it.

Not the user you responded to but Yuri's definitely in the 'very few exceptions' category when it comes to Tales MC's.

Too good to be true.
What's the catch

ANNOUNCE GRACES F FOR PC YOU FUCKS.

I am guessing the catch is actually going to be there's only two party members, and you can only play Not-Artorias.

No Velvet no fuck given.

I like it. Series has been hamstrung by making PS3 titles for so long so its refreshing to see them actually make a next-gen entry. Jury is still out on if it will be good or not but I like what little we've seen so far.

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My thoughts exactly, this game might make Tales big.

lol no

Too early to say, devs are saying this'll be a big jump forward for the series but who knows whether they'll deliver.

I like the more restrained (than usual) designs we've seen though.

>Generic
>Tales middle name.

Seems about right then.

Theres going to be a 10th anniversary party soon for Graces, so maybe you can expect something during that. Vesperia remastered was announced right before its 10th anni.

I like it.

>and you can only play Not-Artorias.

The trailer shows the girl as playable faggot, and tales without party members would be suicide.

When does it? Far as I saw she is just standing around shooting on the sidelines.

Watch again.

You already see at least one other character (face obscured by a mask) fighting alongside them in the trailer
also they're with a bunch of other characters running from an explosion or something at point who don't seem generic either

A bit of the gameplay looks like the player camera is on her as she's attacking so presumably that's not the case.

>xenokeks

it looks better than any xenoshit design

>New director
>No baba
>New Engine
>No baba
>Phantasia Team & Writers
>No baba
>New original world, not that zesty world shit
Looks good, tales of have been shit for the last 8 years or so, i'm cautiously optimistic for this one

Do you think there's going to be romance?

Yes
youtu.be/RlFHTQjlRlI?t=1085

I assume there is, the setup is too obvious so many people are going to expect there to be.

Characters too bland and soulless.

I agree, needed more belts.

If no sakuraba then i might actually get it.

Shionne's theme song has been leaked.
youtube.com/watch?v=YwFcebnNT1k

Does it have Tales gameplay? I can't tell from the trailer.

I hate mc's design so much. His hair + head look so stupid.

>xeno ripoff
>when xenoblade itself took the "pulling your sword out of a girl's chest" from Utena

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>"bros bros bros hes definitely in!!!!" smashfaggotry
can someone post the "retarded dog" wojak so I can save it for next time

>Tales of Arise
dumbest name for a Tales game so far, and that's saying something considering the VZB nonsense. Does someone at Namco have legitimate autism?
>more gritty, darker themed
I'm guessing one of them dies at the end. Predictable schlock

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>Utena used this imagery for some shitty lesbian feminist allusion
>every subsequent work that used it afterwards used it for hetero relationships instead

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>dumbest name for a Tales game so far
At least Arise is a real word

But it's not grammatically correct

Tales of Awoken

>Utena used this imagery for some shitty lesbian feminist allusion
Except 90% of the people that pulled the sword out of Anthy were not only male, but did so to show their power over her. To show that Anthy is powerless in this world and she will always just be a witch until she stops hating herself.

They want people to refer to it as "ToArise" for short or something dumb like that

They have been westernized. Don't you see that they're wearing armor?

Literally the only thing anyone remembers about Utena are Anthy and Akio as characters (understandably so)

>westernized
>when he just looks like he's wearing Guts's berserker armor

Better than Berseria and Zestiria.

And the whole "one planet is secretly using another for resources while pretending to be divine" is also cheesy and good. Reminds me of Deponia or Oblivion (the movie).

>not remembering the sex scene thrown into a clip episode out of nowhere
>not remembering all the wierd surreal imagery that made the show famous
>not remembering Utena turning into a car in the movie

Phantasia was like that too

Japs mostly remember Utena because of its imagery.
I do wish they aped Akio more because he belongs to one of the most interesting character archetypes.

Tales really likes to rise up
youtu.be/3qSoLwky5Gw

Tales MCs used to wear armor too. They're just going back to their roots and doubling down on it.

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Catiously optimistic

I think Tales caught a bad case of edge ever since the last game.

Incredibly forgetable

>Western influence
Expect Alphen to be a homosexual

>series is literally going back to its roots
>western influence
Begone babashitter

It looks very pretty, and like an actual PS4 Tales should look like. Glad they abandonded the Xillia-Berseria artstyle which is shit.
Combat looks interesting, but the fact that it resembles Graces/Zestiria/Berseria worries me; if the combo tree is back, if you can't have aerial combos, or if there is more Berseria button-mashing, I don't fucking care, the game will be shit and Tales will be dead to me.
Character designs are okay, they seem to be going for a more "mature" audience; I can actually believe these characters are in their twenties; I just hope their personalities are too (Yuri did act his age, but he looked like a teenager despite being an adult).

Looks like a massive step up for the franchise, but its still Tales of so I shouldn't get my hopes up

I honestly prefer something like "Arise" to "Tales of Zilespirella" or some obviously made up word

I hope it's good, I like the characters and it looked pretty. Have to see gameplay still

>Now I just need to see if they fucked up the combat or improved it
I bet it's going to be your modern run-of-the-mill action jrpg combat

I wanted Tales of Vesperia 2, not this

Wow. The white hair and one eye of japanese unoriginality.

What was the last good tales game?

Berseria

Vesperia. The last game with soul in the series.

Hearts R

lloyd is too old for /ss/

The guy looks fucking rad.

>MC is actually wearing some sweet looking armor with functional belts
Armorbros, where you at?

Yeah Lloyd is basically confirmed. I can't fucking wait.

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Destiny DC

I like the idea some anons had about the player having to level up the chick's tits in order to get bigger and better swords from her

>The whole "MC can't feel pain and heroine hurts everything she touches" could lead to a nice and cheesy romance story
That's like the most blatant grab for a cheesy romance subplot

Really dislike the girl's design.

But hopefully it's a good soft-reboot for the series. I played Symphonia, Abyss and Vesperia but never finished any of them, always gave up after like 15-20 hours because the gameplay grew stale as fuck and the insipid anime cutscenes and characters sure didn't compensate for it. Hopefully this won't be as bad as those.

I thought Berseria looked great.
The final boss fight scenes got me really fucking pumped.

I think if you just inherently don't enjoy Tales this game probably won't change your mind, honestly.

Thighs

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Is this not gonna be on Switch?

First time I've been interested in a Tales game since Hearts DS. Glad they're doing something cooler than 'LMBS but shittier' with the 3D now

>artorias
Opinion discarded

Waiting until we got more info but I'm optimistic.

Depends on the game.
Vesperia - good back then, garbage now
Graces F - great
Hearts R - great
Xillia - garbage
Xillia 2 - decent
Zestiria - garbage
Berseria - good

Souls comparison is arguably apt here considering the MC is seen rolling in the trailer instead of the usual hop/step thing

>Zestiria - garbage
>Berseria - good

How to spot an NPC

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Berseria sucks ass, that combat actually managed to be worse than Zestiria. Graces is the only 3D game with good combat so far

Zestiria only exists to make you appreciate Berseria's lore. It's like the salad on the side of a steak.

This teaser and trailer had me interested

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Fact: There is not bigger "NPC" than people who use the NPC meme.

Can't wait for her to Arise my dick

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Never played Hearts R but loved the original Hearts. How does it compare? What's the battle system like?

OOOH DAYYYUMMMMM lol

Based

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doesn't look like typical tales of garbage, might pick it up

a man of culture i see

What all do we know about it so far?

Anyone who calls zesteria bad but berseria good is a retard. Berseria is a slightly less worse zesteria

Based Zestybro. youtube.com/watch?v=eKOJbeymd4M

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I kinda wish the guy kept the full helmet.
We need more fully helmeted characters.

I don't, and fuck playing that mindless button-mashing shit. I want to combo things, not target enemy weaknesses. And Velvet is such a shit protag; at least the rest of the cast carries her.

He might have that as a costume or something perhaps

no you wont

Are costumes a thing in Tales? Haven't played a single one.

They turned it into a Xillia clone.

>Vesperia - good back then, garbage now
How does that make sense; even good NES games still holds up. It could perhaps make some sense if technological limitations made the game good but flawed, but the Xbox 360 was more than strong enough to pull off everything needed for a tales game.
>Hearts R - great
I just can't fathom how so many people seem to enjoy that game when it's absolute trash in every shape possible.

For better or worse I love edgelord MC designs, we all have our flaws. Blame Zero and Dante.

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Yeah, also a lot of dumb DLC ones too though.

Bought the Famitsu magazine yesterday. Dumping the Tales section for any nip speakers interested.

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When did fujoshis get on Yea Forums?

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Thanks user

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will long term talesfags be upset if this makes the game "big", like nier -> nier automata?

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Was it kino?

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Nier Automata didn't get much hate initially until it got popular and then people started turning on it, not that the game is flawless or anything but I'm certain a lot of it is just contrarianism at work

- They can't reveal Alphen's age yet but compared to previous protagonists it's on the high side.
- Since he can't feel pain his allies are worried about him gravely injuring himself, and put him in heavy armor.
- The Flame Sword is one of the key items in the story.
- Alphen being the only one who can use the Flame Sword is important to the storyline. However if he were to keep using it, it would burn his hand and injure him. They'll talk about how that ties into the game design later.
- Shionne is being pursued by other Renans because of her curse, and runs into Alphen.
- Because she is Renan she can use weapons like guns.

Cool trailer, looks great but I want a gameplay trailer instead of a cinematic trailer with cherry picked moments.

Also "How dare these people call them selves nier fans when they haven't even seen the 4 hour Yoko Taro finger puppet show explaining the true lore!"

>- They can't reveal Alphen's age yet but compared to previous protagonists it's on the high side.
He's going to be a bazillion year old sealed god or something dumb right

That moment, yes

Or 40.

No idea since there was no gameplay.
Girl is pretty tho.

He'll probably be more mid-20s which puts him above all the MCs already.

Hopefully a cute loli

>inb4 he's 28(000) like kratos

Edgelords are great because they defrost by the end

Eh, I'm cautiously optimistic about it. It's a good sign that they finally have a new engine/assets that aren't from xillia, the old team from the classics, and Baba's truly gone, so theyre free from his shitty zesty lore.

At the very least, i just hope arise has a battle system as fun as graces.

I think they mean more like he's a grown adult maybe late 20s early 30s

They already said he's not immortal

If Alphen is like 25 then how old is Shionne?

I love the planet dominating the horizon.
Always thought that stuff looked really cool, though any system like that would have fucked up tidal forces

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Eh, 28 might be too much for them. By their standards even people in their mid 20s(Alvin) are like senior citizens lol, so I'm betting early 20s. Basically a Yuri 2.0, a dude who isnt a kid but still youthful enough to get ID'd when buying beer.

18

>Hey instead of fighting together against all these enemies and our common goal let's have a death match right here for no real reason so I can stay behind and die in a bit
>We're not even on a cool aqueduct looking thing like in the OP
Abyss was so fucking dumb

This is gonna be announced on Switch right

Objectively false. The worst characters - every single time, without fail - are designed by Minaba

Wait
Fuck, only now I realize that she has a ponytail

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You're right, his game model just looks so damn short that I keep thinking he is younger than he is.

I'd imagine she's not too far in age with him so maybe 22?

What kind of sex will they have?

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Vesperia was such a huge disappointment, especially after nearly ten years of vespyfags insisting that it was the best the franchise had to offer. It runs on the garbage TP mechanic without allowing you any decent method of refilling it like Xillia. It doesn't allow you to chain artes until late-game for most characters, and you'll have to grind up some artes to make them even usable. Judith is probably one of the most garbage "air fighter" in the series and yet is constantly used as an example of how good the combat is. Her movements are slow, she burns through TP faster than a landwhale snorts butter, and she can't even chain or use artes in midair without bothering to grind her through that early hell first.

Not to mention that the story and character interactions are also some of the weakest in the series, with only Yuri standing out to any degree, and not even by that much.

based retard, Ash was going to die regardless

>whitewashing ALPHAne

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Berseria at least has combat made for humans. Zestiria is the stupidest mosh of nonsense and handles like dog shit.

Delete this.

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kek

what was the point of postgame rarity 21 gear in berseria if your gear doesn't transfer over to ng+?

He's actually one of the taller MCs.

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I think that Vesperia(just like Abyss) is a product of it's time with a battle system that hasnt aged well especially when compared to ones like Graces and Xillia.

And let's be honest, back in the day when vesperia could only be played on the 360 or a modded ps3, there was a sense of exclusivity that made some people hype this game even more than it deserved. Now that vesperia is more accessible, not as many seem to be felating it as much.

The same thing happened back in the day with xillia, during the gap in the localization release, people who played it in japanese hyped it as the best thing ever but once it got released, people realized it felt rushed and incomplete, and all those people hyping it suddenly got silent.

I distinctly remember Xillia getting shit for its lack of content and terrible boss mechanics before ENG release. The story was highly regarded though.

fug

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damn Eizen's a big guy

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>leon

Is Alphen the most chad Tales MC?

Not my ToA

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listen here faggot i loved parts of Zestiria. zaveid's everything, lailah, sorey and mic's totally-not-gay bro team, the gameplay was all right, etc. but that game was still bloody awful as a whole compared to Berseria. its undeniable how much meddling went on behind the scenes that ended up shitting all over zestiria's development

Yeah nig is a tank

Eternia chick a cute

Girls with green hair usually are.

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>Based
Yurichads
Alphenchads
Veiguebros

>Cringe
Judefags
Lloydfags
Emilfags
Soreyfags
Lukefags

>Ultimate cringe
Velvetfags

I don't like Abyss but Im also in love with Tear

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i agree!

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This entire list is cringe

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>Alphenchads
The game isn't even out yet you retard

>Crouching sweetheart hidden monk
>BEAST

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>Be wage slave 3D modeler
>Excited to be working on new game
>This overly designed asymmetric nightmare comes down from above

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Is there any fucking point in starting fanbase wars? You don't even pull swords out of the chest of anyone too. This better be falseflag

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>God Tier
Elize as Mint
Leia as Farah
>High Tier
Jude as Leon
>Okay Tier
Alvin as bondage slave Kratos
>Weird Tier
Milla as Dhaos
Rowen as Barby

Xillia actually has pretty nice costume choices

Am from the future can tell you some stuff about Arise.

A purple haired chick with big boobs is introduced as Alphen's childhood friend who wants his doorknob. Her and Shionne fight a lot in the beginning but later become friends. Purple hair chick comes close to winning the Alphenbowl but ultimately Shionne wins in the end. However there's one ending where you do end up with the purple hair chick though the fandom regards it as non canon

>Symphonia got HD port for its 10th anniversary
>Vesperia got HD ports for its 10th anniversary
>Graces is gonna get HD ports for its 10th anniversary
>Abyss got nothing for its 10th anniversary and is being replaced by Arise for its 15th

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>tales thread without retard image dump
please tell me the tripfag got banned again

I know you're funning me but I want it

Nice

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I never liked most protagonist default costumes but i hated velvets the most(even more than sorey's), it looks like it was in damn blender.

The reason for it didnt make much sense either, "I gonna get some left over 'clothes' from the armory so i dont have to walk around in this prison uniform even though these clothes are way more conspicuous"

tales has a terrible art style generally. Very typical anime. Just above Standard Deviant art tier. Tales has a terrible design trend of, give them a coat.
I like the look of the knew game, but I felt like I was punched in the face when I found out it was tales.

How can he have a childhood friend if he lost his memory?

>barby!rowan
>weird

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Why can't he? That could easily be the source of her drama. Her memory is fine.

The coats are often overdesigned as fuck too. Sorey and Jude are the most guilty of this.

A certain tales trend i hate is having multiple artist design the main cast like zest and berseria. It just looks really jarring to see characters with such different art styles stand next to each other(when it's not a crossover).

Something small I'm hoping for is that they remove the other half of that broken mask/helm thingy. I dont know why it's bothering me so much.

I feel like theyre gonna keep it on for the entire game because he goes through an entire costume change yet still has the damn half of the broken mask.

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I don't know too much about tales as I've only played arguably the worst one (Hearts R) and a fourth of Symphonia so far.
I like Lloyd's design a lot. There's a lot dumb about it, but it reads well and has a unique silhouette.
I usually find a lot of the in game character art to be rather terrible. However, they transfer to 3D fairly well.

>arguably the worst one (Hearts R
Who says that's the worst? Faggots that who. Also fuck you. Ya faggot.

Will Alphen sleep on a bed with his armor on?

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Will Cocoa ever learn CQC!?

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Honestly, I'm tolerant towards Lloyd's because his is more unique among the series. Not very jacket like, some suspenders, the strap/scarf thingy doesnt stick out to much.

Compare that to things like:
>Disco Samurai
>Poncho Cape thingy
>whatever the hell it is that Jude's wearing?

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Are you ready? The pain will only last an instant

I really don't understand Jude's outfit in the context of the setting. It doesn't even look like clothes. Not something a nurse would wear anyways.

>I've only played arguably the worst one (Hearts R) and a fourth of Symphonia so far.
>a fourth of Symphonia so far.
enjoying yourself, user?

Tales Of A Rise!

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It's like my X-Men comics with Rogue and Gambit.

Fuck off back to /pg/

Even in xillia's setting is that doctors/nurses are dressed relatively normal by real standards.

If i recall correctly, they said during a skit that since Jude was a country bumpkin going to the big city, he "over dressed", but there's a huge difference between overdressing and whatever the fuck you can call what he's wearing. A magical cyberpunk...monk? There's no one else around that dresses like him

At least xillia2 gave him some normal clothes but decided that he needs to wear a labcoat over it everywhere because that what reseachers do, right?

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Seriously where do you even GET an outfit like that. I would really love to see the store these JRPG heroes are shopping at.

Xillia 2 Jude looks pretty alright. I kind of dig the labcoat because it's a labcoat and not some badass jacket for wannabe Dantes

You better not be talking shit about labcoats. They're super comfortable and I'd fucking wear them all time if possible.

Series is dead to me. Just make a game you want to make and stop this shit.

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>despite their height everyone is shorter than me

At least he beat a kid.

I dunno, I heard people say that was the worst one. So I was like, well I hate it, I should try ones the community universally agree to play.
I'm having a lot more fun than I thought. I accidentally skipped Izoold and went north. And wound up doing the harder route. I like that the game offers split roads in difficulty. Water temple is the next thing for me to do. Raine looks like a bird.

There really needs to a law in Japan to not pander at all to the west, if they don't like it, then tough shit, the western has nothing but shit people and insects infesting it, the east has those too but not nearly to the disgusting level the west has them

Sorry, meant to say that I didn't hate it.

another braindead generic turd.

combat in zestiria was garbage

>big guy
>barely above average
>literally everyone else is a (wo)manlet

I'm guessing in their world they have anime equivalent of Hot Topic, where teenagers can get all the bizarre custom fit clothes they can dream of.

I also dig the labcoat but a part of me doesnt like seeing the designated fast , close range, fighter, who specializes in dodging, wear it. But what the hell, more than half the cast of x2 were wearing formal suits and doing the same so I'm just a picky asshole lol.

If the fanbase is in agreement that there are certain games to play first, and I don't know any fan of the franchise IRL, I'll trust them with tips on entry points. If I end up liking a franchise and playing through them all I don't end up skipping the 'bad' ones.

fuck nigger

Just slap cheat on some skills.

What the fuck are you talking about, Xillia was outright reviled before it came out in English and everyone realized it was just kind of mediocre instead.

The only problem I have with this is that I first read it as Tales of Arse and now I just can't get it right.

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I'm looking forward to it.

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You know I never actually saw the trailer for this. Now I understand why I kept seeing the Utena comparisons

>If the fanbase is in agreement
>Tales

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The only thing I'm worried about is the trend in big Japanese games in the past few years to finally have an engine that feels cool and modern that gets undermined by the game's lack of content. I hope we're not looking at another Monster Hunter World with this one.

>new system focuses too much on armitization to the point of always locking two humans at all times, lock mystic artes behind it, nerf standards artes

>seamless battle transitions failed horribly

>introduces the terrible arte tree system

>arguably the worst equipment system in the series, a close second to berseria's

There's definitely some more I'm leaving out but it's been years.

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>Battle starts instantly and seamless on the over world

Hey that's pretty co...

>You still have to go through the menus and fade outs after the battle anyways

Look at those designs.
I mean, really look at them.
Do you see what's missing?
The belts, lad, THE BELTS!
The only belt I see is a thighstrap to hold ammo cartridges.

It leads to some of the most busted shit in the series though, barring skills like Glory. +100% to all stats and almost halved cast time with no consequences is obscene. And I don't see much of an issue with the arte tree system. Graces introduced it, but the combat there was fucking solid.

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>1)Yeah, the fade jump back wasnt good it was basically the same as a transition

>2)And i agree that battle ends should also be sesmless with battle review in the background.

>3)to implement the seamless battles, the world map was so empty and if you made the mistake of starting a battle in a bad angle, you'll be stuck fighting in a corner with a shit camera.

No wonder berseria scrapped it all together. It was a cool idea but horribly executed.

>trying to make sense of anime jrpg clothes

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You realize Sheena is only 2 years older than lloyd, right?

All I want is a nice straightforward equipment system. I don't want 6 million doubles of the same gear with minute differences. Maybe the weapons and armor can teach skills like Vesperia or FF9, but when I get a new piece of equipment I want it to be a unique reward unto itself. I want my new sword or spear to be special because it's new. I don't want to see it undermined because I got a inventory full of them I don't even look at because the system gets annoying.

I just flat out stopped looking at new gear in Berseria once I got my guys kitted out comfortably. Why do they have to make a mess of things and then pretend it's adding depth.

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No multiplayer
Gatcha system

>battle starts in a corridor
You know what I'm talking about. I'll take magically warping to an arena any day. Fuck that shit.

I love having the hard route option, there is one boss in particular that was a war attrition the last time I played it. I like Raine's stupid hair but I too wonder how it works.

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Yeah, you're retarded. The characters look cool as fuck.

>I like Raine's stupid hair but I too wonder how it works.

What you mean how does it work? It's just the ends slightly flared out.

Dumb waifufag

t.lanklet

I liked Berseria at the time but looking back I wonder how much of that was because it was any good itself and how much because it was hot of the tails of a complete shit show.

I love Shionne's big thick hair!

>lanklet
It starts to become an issue at 195 cm.

Yeah, i know that the crafting system had the potential to completely break the game(like graces eleth mixer). I just dont care for the farming, fusion mechanics, and locking skills behind gear. I never liked that characters had gear that gave them boost for stats they didnt need(it was more for armatization combining stats).

I forgot that graces introduced it but they executed it MUCH better with their mode A&B system. I like zestiria's mechanic that humans have martial artes and only seraphs can cast magic...but everything was so nerfed for the sake of highlighting the fusion artes so it was meh.

Ristelle

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Imagine just softly running your hands through her pony tail

Girl looks cute, I like that the male protag actually wears armor this time, but his design isn't really that appealing.
Graphics look okay, but I wish the environments themselves were more creative, kinda like the intro of Eternia.
Gameplay looked pretty bad so far, I was expecting the devs to recognize the awfulness of the later games combat system and go back to what worked, but it looks like they're deviating further from the traditional LMBS.

>Hero is an aimless soul with no purpose in life but finds one in helping the heroine
>The heroine plans on using the hero to achieve her own purposes but finds there's more to life than them and grows to care for the hero.

Yes please.

I want to be right as she gets fucked by left

I think the fact that they're older is a plus, and even though it looks super edgy so was Berseria and it turned out okay.

Cautiously optimistic.

where is Emil?

Yeah, zest & berseria's gear system was disgustingly bad.

I didnt bother with zestiria but since berseria is fresh in my mind, i hated that you needed to grind gear to unlock skills(what is this shit, disgaea?), farm for drops to upgrade gear, and it forced you between gimping yourself with shit/situational gear to grind it or using your best gear that's already maxed...and the only reward is that you keep the skills in NG+.

I missed the old days when new gear just provided better stats boost and not convoluted bullshit.

not gonna lie, the shishisenkou at the end was kino

Gameplay looks fun. Pity its got all that shit weeb anime voice acting and cut scenes though.

I love the guys design on the left but everything I've seen about previous tales games looks trash so I think I'll pass cheif.

in the trash

I kinda hope they don't go with a bittersweet ending again.

I skipped most of the shitty skills till the end then just spawned dire foes outside the first town
could master everything in a couple fights each

please don't ruin this with stupid waifu shit.

This gives me 80s manga/anime vibes where gender differences were actually rooted in reality which made everything felt real. They gave female into combative situations but have it make sense and act like how women would act. Men were also not basedboy faggots.

Emil:
>Belt Level: 2(but they're used to hold his sheaths)
>Minus Points: His design is just a large tube top that would somehow look even weirder without the scarf.

There.

Looks like those shitty fanmade remakes with unreal engine

At least there was the 3DS port.

Will I be able to tempest thrust and sword rain?

Nothing is worse than Velvet

We goddamn better. If this idiot can sword rain alpha and heavenly tempest for days then anyone should be able to

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Oh my god he's actually wearing a dress

ehmule and the crestoria mc have the worst designs in the whole fucking series

You're fucking retarded.

These characters are the reason WHY I'm getting the game. Not ugly shit like western shit but males aren't fucking basedfags and women look like actual (attractive) adults.

This game looks like it can be a 10/10, but I'm super scared that this game will be super weeb and have waifu shit and dumb contrived anime shit have a major impact in the story.

I've only played symphonia and vesperia. this looks cool. is it just a two party team this time?

>game will be super weeb and have waifu shit and dumb contrived anime shit have a major impact in the story.
Its a tales of game so this is 100% guaranteed.

>is it just a two party team this time?
We don't know. I doubt it. They'll probably show more characters later. Though honestly the more I think about it the more I actually like the idea of it just being the two of them.

Are you one of those fabled ironic weebs?

Please give Shion a cute girlfriends Bamco!

Tales of SYmphonia and Tales of the Abyss were goat games that weeb stuff hurt partially, but the overall story was good enough to make up for it. (At least, the male characters felt real)

I haven't played the modern Tales of Games too much, but it seems like the thematic storylines don't appear as much. Which leaves generic weeb game which has good mechanics but nothing I'm interested in. Please don't do this Tales of Arise.

Fortunately, they already confirmed that there will be more, theyre just taking their time to reveal them slowly in their usual bullshit fashion. Closer to release you can guarantee youll see the entire playable cast.

Abyss's story was the most fucktarded thing anyone ever got paid to write.

I've only played Symphonia back on gamecube and vesperia on 360. My tolerance for weeb stuff is much lower now than when I was younger. So hopefully this one isnt too weeb

They've already used that setup multiple times.

ugly kratos and decus look pretty lame too, dotnw's male designs suck but at least marta and alice are cute

alice deserved a better end

They actually have armor unlike your usually skimpy clothing or leather jackets, weebfuck.
It's the only Tales game that looks interesting to me since it isn't one huge weebfest.

Kratos looks like Sideshow Bob

Best boy

>battle dress
>thigh strap
>long ponytail
that's the girl for me

I thought Raine and Tear were great characters that managed to make the world have a fantasy vibe but still feel real. The other female party members mostly felt out of place and were filler slots at best or caused the game to feel super weeb at times.

I am praying that these are the only two characters you can play.

Looks like shit for your typical entry-level anime fans like Xenoblade 2. It's clearly going for westerners who want to play as older "more mature" characters. Maybe the gameplay will end up being good but that's about it.

Graphics look like code vein garbage
Designs are terrible
Seems like shit that takes itself way too fucking seriously too but I thought that too with the bersaria trailer so it”ll probably be goofy too

FPWP
SPWP

I ain't got nothing bad to say about Raine but c'mon man, Collette and Sheena where the ones doing most of the heavy lifting plot wise.

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Outside of story and the cast, Berseria has to be one of the worst Tales gameplay wise.

>Terrible combat system that pretty much made me feel like I'm mashing auto combos in newer fighting games. Arte trees were a mistake and should never be in a future Tales.

>Equipment system was better than Zesty's, but still terrible. Pretty sure I did the math, and to equip your whole party with end game +10 unknown gear you had to farm 500 plus pieces of unknown gear for void scrap.

I hope Arise goes back to traditional normals into directional command artes and a much less convoluted gear system.

ARISE

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What’s with the retard calling everyone who doesn’t like this a weeb ITT.

To save you hours of your life of modern tales:

>Graces: we'll use the power of friendship to kick the ass of some super vague entity that looks like a child for some reason.

>Xillia: let's beat up god and combine 2 worlds again just like symphonia.*wink*

>Xillia 2: fanfiction.

>Zestiria: the adventures of Jesus and his spirit pals. Jesus dies for our sins and returns.

>Berseria: an edgy woman with a brother-complex and her quest of revenge to defeat her onii-chan and his evil church buddies with the power of straight shota. My little brother cant be this godlike and douchey.

There. Youre welcome.

every Tales game is pretty much self contained, there's a few things here or there but it's more like final fantasy than dragon quest. The series didn't die or spiral into oblivion when they released Zestria which was a fucking joke compared to virtually every earlier game ever made. Berseria brought it back somewhat, I think the biggest issue is how normie-ized is it going to be. I think after Zestria and Berseria, the writing is on the wall, they want to bring this to a much larger audience.

I love Tales but it's a mediocre JRPG, always has been. Let's see what they can do with it.

Honestly cringed when I saw this trash during the microsoft e3 presentation

he's a normalfag

>Punished Ludger
>Pink Hikari
>New world, no Zestiria homoshit faggotry

Ok I guess

I am very glad to be rid of this retarded "malevolence" shit. Seriously I feel like none of these writers every bother to actually realize the issues with the things they introduce.

I'm old and cranky.
I'll wait for ending spoilers: if they all fucking die, I won't bother.

Punished Lailah

>Lets his kingdom fall to ruin and it's people destroyed by a mist that robs them of their humanity
>Because he wants his pet birb to fly free

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When was the last time we EVER actually got an everyone dies downer ending?

Where do I even start with this series?

Malevolence is one of those things where they really didn't think things through when they settled on it. The whole world should've been a demon-infested hellhole with few or no humans or seraphs long before Berseria started if things as simple as a kid getting jealous because she thought mommy was focusing more on her future stepdad than her makes you turn into a daemon/hellion.

malevolence was such bullshit, it was even plain contradictory at times. "damn it, i stubbed my toe, I'm so angry that I'll turn into a killer demon". "I enjoy killing people, I'm clearly evil, but I'm not a monster because i dont believe what I'm doing is wrong lol, checkmate atheist"

The first one.

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Seriously. The world should be Berserk level horrifying but outside of a few instances was basically a standard happy JRPG setting. Even without the monsters people should be living in constant fear and paranoia.

Xillia 2?

but will it have good in-game costumes?

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Malevolence as a concept doesn't have anything similar to it in the western world, so that might be why westerners had a hard time understanding what it was.

Abyss probably.

That depends. How do you feel about tape?

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The stories are always shit but the battle system is often very fun and the character chemistry is often entertaining enough

Some game also have diamond in the rough characters like bestboy in pic related

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Looks very promising. Shionne's voice is so sexy.

Daemon/hellions are just psychopaths and sociopaths given a new form. We see crackheads and weird hobos every day of our lives. Imagine them as just being weird demons one day.

I understand it fine, so shove off with that shit. It's just poorly written. The rules are constantly in flux to whatever is convenient and the ramifications are not fully explored.

>Xillia 2 : edgy fanfiction and we want the persona audience
fixed

Namco already confirmes the standard party size of six

Berseria's combat really wasn't bad at all. I still go back to play it often, I like it a lot. It's fast, fluid and feels really satisfying to spam mystic artes.

Berseria factually counts as death ending, like Persona 3.

I didn't really like trying to maintain souls on chaos or how there was so much hitstop you couldn't really tell what was going on

Then you don't actually understand shit.

I hope they pick good legacy costumes this time
Xillia,Zestiria and Berseria didn't have good picks

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Not that guy, but if it means holes in female clothing, especially around the waist, then it's hot.

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I can't wait for the NTR ending.

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>I didn't really like trying to maintain souls on chaos
Honestly Chaos is incredibly easy for me. All I have is one string dedicated to stuns per character and I never run out of souls. Also I think I like souls WAY better than CC.
>so much hitstop you couldn't really tell what was going on
Fair. Everything flows together so smoothly it's almost takes away from the excitement of using an arte. I can understand that.
There really should have been one button dedicated to non-soul using regular attacks.

>but it seems like the thematic storylines don't appear as much
Berseria had a thematic storyline, which mostly felt like an apology for Zestiria's plot.

you fags really do see NTR in anything, holy shit

Berseria was really fucking tragic, especially for Velvet. It definitely wasn't a story about healing at all.

Insane brocon loses her object of obsession and becomes a murderous psycho for years on end, "replacing" her brother with a new boy and giving him the same name. Later her old bro comes back as a condescending god-prick and she pisses herself like a little girl, and even after she claims and acts like she's at peace with herself now, she still runs off to cling to her little brother for literally all time without moving on. Poor Phi just gets dumped for the original.

At the same time I can't hate Velvet because she's legitimately insane and emotionally compromised. If she wasn't, she would have stopped generating malevolence all together.

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wew this might be the reason of why zesti shit happenes Laphi felt for the malevolence for not scoring the one-san

If it keeps the crazy juggling of the last games but gets rid of the floatiness it should be god tier

>ywn cuddle naked with velvet for eternity

Zestiria was about people overcoming their flaws and seeking peace in an almost buddhist way.

Berseria is the opposite, with a bunch of actual psychos embracing their brokenness and just living with it like it will always be part of them, without even bothering to address their problems in a socially acceptable way.

No wonder the kid got legitimately tired of her shit throughout the game. He even got a new name and ditched the shitty brother substitute one and became the new god. And only got corrupted because of some random curse bullshit that never made much sense.

Imagine complaining that a Japanese game is too weeb

I'm sorry but is it really that wrong to just once not exclusively play as teenagers? I understand worrying about "western influence" but wanting older protagonists isn't a bad thing

>and even after she claims and acts like she's at peace with herself now, she still runs off to cling to her little brother for literally all time without moving on
In case you forgot, she did that because killing Innominat would also kill everyone else who was a part of him, including all the Therions and Phi.

I hope he's at least 25

Boring, they could've at least tried to reach eight or pulling of a Final Fantasy VI with 14 characters if they wanted to dare.

Aww man, I guess I have to expect Yazuka to be entirely filled to the brim with a shit story that makes no sense because it's a Japanese game. I hate how degenerate modern Western games are either.

I just want not-retarded vidya that used to be prevalent in even (older) JRPGs. Modern vidya, both English and Japanese, feel like they're not trying to make a good story and just cashing in on neets. I get that it makes money, but I can still hope for an actual quality game and not buy it if it doesn't meet the criteria.

Character growth and interaction tends to suffer when you have too many characters. Just look at Vesperia's massive party.

Zestiria's "flaws" were really picky and judgemental as fuck. Most humans in the main cast were actually good well-grounded people unlike berseria's but the slightest negativity could slip you into a hellion.

"Im upset that my brother is dead and a war might start, so i guess I'm not perfect like that jesus dude or hideo baba's waifu who can see the spirits, silly me:

>Vesperia bad now
>Graces F great ever
>Berseria anything other than decent

I've never seen so much bad opinion in one post.

>Zestiria was about people overcoming their flaws and seeking peace in an almost buddhist way.
Seeking peace was never shown to stop the malevolence. Only getting purified, and then thinking only happy thoughts and literally never having any negative emotions, in spite of such emotions being as much a part of what it is to be human as positive ones. If literally anybody in Zestiria had been shown to be able to clear the malevolence through counseling and emotional catharsis, you might have a point.

Playing Vesperia is like watching teenagers argue at each other about politics on the internet.

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At least they were decent enough to include her Prologue look as a costume for immediate use. That design is perfect.

>be me
>just wanted to be those 2 characters because they had great chemisty
I'm actually really disappointed, but let's see what they'll do with it.

Maybe she chose that outfit to show off her bazongas.

Exactly, Berseria made a huge point about emotions being needed for humanity for better or worse.

Ironically, most humans that never produced any malevolence were actually more screwed up and twisted than your normal human lol. It all came down to whether you truly believe your in the right whether it is or not. So artorius wanting to turn humanity into soulless husk was fine as long as he believed he was just.

>In case you forgot, she did that because killing Innominat would also kill everyone else who was a part of him, including all the Therions and Phi.
I doubt that's what she was thinking about at the time. It turned out to be a convenient answer, yes, but Velvet isn't the type to think about the big picture. She's very single minded and wanted to personally deal with her brother, either to possess him or kill him.

artorius had a ton of malevolence though

I loved Berseria until Artorious just announced he can generate malevolence whenever he wants at the ass end of the final battle to pull a 2nd form final boss out of his ass.
It really pissed me off.

I feel like Zesty was supposed to have a message something like but then they realized they fucked up writing it, and instead decided to run with their accidental implications instead in Berseria (especially the postgame dungeon story where actually the demons and the dragons are all a catch-22 by the seraphim designed to have the humans and malakhim wipe each other out)

Yeah the villager outfit is great.
But really, I'd just love to get a "fixed" version of Velvet's outfit. Eleanor even offered to fix it up like new and Velvet said sure, it would have been the perfect opportunity to give a non-ripped/tattered version of her clothing right then and there.

Whoever wrote Berseria tried his hardest to use what was given to them through Zestiria. It's not perfect, but it wound up being a lot better than what Zestiria did.
I'm cautiously optimistic about Arise as a result.

I just hate how context free the alts are. Like you can even get Elanor's old exorcist trainee uniform but do you get it in say a small event where you visit the training grounds and she pulls it out of her old dorm? No you get it as a prize for mini games. And it's the only good alt in the game.

Okay, artorius is an exception because somehow cobstantly meditating and repressing emotions is enough but his main followers(legates) were supposedly pure souls. Melchior and shigure were pretty flawed but produced no malevolence.

Yeah, same. I like costumes best if they have some sort of reason for being worn or received. Vesperia and Abyss were excellent for this, and Ludger getting matching colours for every party member he max bonds with was fucking great.

none of eleanor's other outfits are good because she's basically halfway to T-posing so that her arms don't clip the skirt part so it just looks awkward in anything else

I actually put her in her trainee outfit and give her justin beiber hair and she finally looks cute instead of a stupid dolled up 12 year old.

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Because he was conflicted. He master had taught him to trust and love others, but he completely threw it all away after his family was used as bait. He knows what he's doing may not be the solution his master would've used, but he's at a point past being sympathetic to what happens to the rest of humanity.

If you are writing too many juvenile and useless skits (e.g. who cooks bad, who's sexy, slapstick, ecc.) , of course you cannot develop a proper cahracter chemistry between main story and side stuff.

How about "less is more" this time around? Other RPG franchises didn't need that in order to reach the decent amount of depth.

Yeah. Costumes can go a long way to giving the characters more backstory. Stuff like Judy being a secret gambling queen or even Natalia being a hero dork.

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