Name one thing that would fix TF2

Name one thing that would fix TF2.

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remove pyro

Busty female anthros in bikini

Revert all MyM changes and pretend that it never happened

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Blue haired anime sword characters

this

buff a few of the legions of shitty nerfed unfun weapons, and nerf the Diamondback into the fucking depths of the earth

>quickplay died for this
Yes, and quickplay sucked too.

nerf dr and kunai so pubs are actually fun to play

TF3

sprays

git gud

>t.spymain

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Remove spy

You know that short 3 second uber that people get upon spawning in Mannpower? Add that to the rest of the gamemodes to prevent spawncamping.

give back the old graphics before they fucked it up in an update to make it run even more ass

Are you retarded?

as long as TF3 replaces it

make some "legacy mode" where its the list of 2007 maps back-to-back and it's stock only with no cosmetics.

Do you really trust current Valve to make TF3?

TF2 has been suffering for years, the only way to fix it is to mercifully kill it off.

And allow sprays.

Make Spy and Sniper only available to premium accounts. Curbs both rampant hacking and newfags who gravitate to those two classes.

Here's an easy way to not carry over all of the cosmetics:
Every type of item (unusual, strange, etc) is assigned a certain amount of scrap or keys in the new game, so you basically get alot of currency to get whatever new shit they have.

>>cosmetics carry over
I thought you were trying to make a good sequel, not one that's DOA

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Give existing maps night/day versions that rotate depending on the time of day the player entered the server.

>tfw comfy nighttime 2fort matches

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>Necessary evil
And why is that? Because you'll be really really mad if your flaming pink unusual ass hat (effect: Flies) becomes worthless?

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This would be a lot of fun. Sneaking around in night killing spies

TF2 did just fucking fine for two years without cosmetics, no it fucking is not.

You need a good way to kill off TF2 and move everyone over to TF3. A lot of people care so much about cosmetics that they'll keep playing TF2 just because.

So would this be client side or server side?

Valve

yes

Auto balance

It was better than current matchmaking.

>Trader hatfaggot trannies stay in their containment game
Sounds good. I'll be sure to pay them a visit every so often just to watch them seethe at the frying pan sound effect.

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Remove crits Except on Melee weapons

THIS

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Source 2

Put a limit on interp.

>early morning Doublecross

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>we have to kill the previous game for no reason

source 2 runs like shit, just look at dota and how they cant fix fps breaking bugs

Revert everything done in the Meet Your Match Update.

Unreal

Cosmetics are the single worst way to artificially extend the lifespan of a game. When a game focuses on cosmetics as the only post-release content it attracts troglodytes who don't actually care to play the game. They only care to play dressup and flaunt a false sense of superiority because they have a slightly rarer hat.

See: Overwatch

You dont seem to understand, yes quick-play sucked but what MyM replaced it with was even worse and subsequently killed the game.
They broke something that didnt needed to be fixed.

Go back to the Engineer update.

Group taunts killed the game

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"""friendly"""faggots killed it

the tier'ed cosmetics and mym killed the game

Remove ecelebs

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And it could all be fixed by adding time limits, yet I’m not even sure the only two people left on the TF2 team really care anymore

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a single update with content would bring back some life into it
too bad it's been 2 years without anything big

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More like get STAR_ back to stomp some retards

I understand, and I agree. I just get tired of this idea that Quickplay didn't have major problems, and yes, I've seen people make that claim. Casual Mode could be fixed still if the devs weren't brainlets. Same with Competitive. You could easy have an actual dick around mode for Casual, and a serious mode for Competitive with no crits, autobalance, and some rewards for winning.

Fuck that nigger he ruined a friendship for internet money

So how many things have killed TF2 up until now?
The list just keeps growing

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It was all planned out retard

This

If that’s how you plan to do your damage control STAR_ kun

>f2p
>hats
>overwatch
>TF:GO
>meet your match
>Pod droping to 3 keys
>keys inflating to 60 keys
Probably more

Just remove MyM

>I know more about the game's design than the people who actually developed it
Many of the original team don't work on the game anymore, and I'd unironically put my complete trust in Uncle Dane over the retard who thought >pic related was a good idea and whose IQ probably matches the total hours he's actually played in TF2.

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Releasing the fucking heavy update already

>keys inflating to 60 keys
BUY BUY BUY NOW

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As stupid as it sounds. No one in the community should be trusted

Drugs'n'whores.

>f2p
Helped it grow even more
>hats
Kinda, Maybe
>Overwatch
Is dead now
>TF:GO
Yes
>Meet your Match
Yes
>Pod dropping to 3 keys
Yes
>keys inflating to 60 keys
How does one fix this?

>and I'd unironically put my complete trust in Uncle Dane
OH NO NO NO NO

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Definitely not Soundsmith, though.

Alright user you got me. He’s still an absolute nigger

>>keys inflating to 60 keys
I assume you mean 60 refs?

How did that happen? I stopped playing when it was 2.33 ref.

>How did that happen?
Mannconomy plus hyperinflation plus worthless cosmetics

Restraint

Whoops too late for that

Uncle Dane is no developer and no experience in coding and he's apart of the sperg sesspool that is the tf2-youtuber community.
B4nny is preferably trusted or just revert the mym changes and release a big update to get the game back to it's roots

>Mannconomy
I only started playing after TF2 went F2P.
Played it for years, and at the end of all that it was at 2.33 ref.

Refer then to the hyperinflation and sheer amount of cosmetics now in the game

Remove Casual and improve the server browser to make it easier to find a non-meme server to play on, or improve Casual. I just want stock maps with a working vote system and auto-scramble. The only way I can get this is to play on a fucking furry server. Casual is supposed to fill this role but every single game is a steamroll or a stalemate.

>Mannconomy
Back when Gun Mettle came out, keys were still around 4-5 ref iirc.

Fucking this

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Uninstall wizard

>metal is pretty worthless, most people want the new cosmetics and faggots charge stupid amounts of refs for them
>keys are basically the only thing people use for trading
>valve fucking stops adding hats to craftable/droppable list and all the new hats after that point are uncrate ONLY
>metal drops even faster
What's the objective here, valve?

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Uninstalling it.

They obviously want people to buy keys.
Using real money, and not "free" drops.

MERASMUS!

Alternatively
>Buy a key
>Trade it for 50-60 ref
>Craft 20 hats
Rinse and repeat until you have the hats you want for pennies on the dollar

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The economy is just simply fucked because metal is virtually infinite. Takes about 2 braincells to figure out that without a metal drain that inflation at unforeseen rates would occur. Valve should combat bots and improve the game experience for newer players with a new default hud, new default settings, and a new engine like unreal or, if valve gets off their ass, a functioning source 2 port

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>When one picture shows the entirety of what went wrong with the game

>noooo how dare you counter soldier (unless he runs shotgun) no no no VAAALVE pleASE nerf PYRO AAAAA

>talking shit about katzotsky kick

What's wrong, user? Don't you like fun?

To be fair this kinda shit only happens on CTF maps, which have always been garbage anyways

Dildo battle royalle

based

cringe

Add a time limit and watch people start playing again

have sex

With ESEA pulling the plug on supporting TF2 events, I think the time has come for Valve to just release some big, final patch and also the last comic and announce that they are ending content update support of the game.
Really, it had a good run. 12 years of being played by hundreds of thousands of people is no small feat, but the only people left are people who have already played for so long and invested so much they are afraid to move on. And rather than potentially ruin the game (some people would argue they already have) to try and keep up with the times, it's probably better if they just set it up on display and let it slowly wither out. It's a product from a different age, for a different generation. Maybe adolescents and young adults in the future can look at this interesting relic of a game and learn something from the story of it's community, it's evolution as a game, and how it impacted both Valve and everyone in the community.

Revert whichever update that made community servers dead. Cosmetics never affected gameplay, so I'm fine with them remaining. But I believe that Valve really went overboard in bloating their quantity as well as design. The older ones were simpler, but felt more true to what they were supposed to be - inconspicuous, good old fun add-ons.

>Cosmetics never affected gameplay
The amount of particle effects hogging down the game beg to differ

its existence

>t. someone who's never been to a community server
It's called having fun.

Playing the objective of the game is fun.

See

>unusuals
I stand corrected then. Completely forgotten about those types of hats.

No it isn't, get the fucking brazilians, kids, and whales away from TF3. Let them cry about losing their retarded green hats and stay in the desolate wasteland that is TF2.

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>WE-WE-W-WE-W-WE-WE-W-W-WE-WE-WE
It was fun the first or second time. Sometimes I just want to play some Doublecross or Sawmill CTF.

You're right, I sure do love stalemates on tiny maps that last three hours or more because there's no fucking timer and everyone decided that their team needs four goddamn sentries. If there's one thing that retard Dane was right about, it's that CTF maps are absolute trash. If you wanna play the objective, go play A/D or Payload.

>implying playing the objective is the only fun thing you are allowed to do

Remember kids, if you actually want to play TF2, the game, for the objective, you hate fun and are ruining the game. Fucking tryhard.

>how does one fix this?
By Valve literally giving everyone one free key.

I’m telling you, a time limit of 15 minutes would make most of these problems dissolve overnight and everyone will stop mucking around

Why are you extrapolating from a single image as if it represents everyone's entire experience with the game? No one is suggesting people can't and don't play the objective.

That's not at all what I was arguing. I was trying to say that CTF is the absolute worst game mode to play if you're going to play for the objective. If the round doesn't end in less than five minutes, it's going to last ten goddamn hours.

This, but Valve is fucking retarded so that will never happen.

>Name one thing that would fix TF2.
Class limits on snipers, spies and engineers.

mvm ping filter

Maybe because it happens almost every CTF game I join, and sometimes I get kicked for trying to cap. I'm all for playing however you want to play, but there's this misconception that tryhards are the ones that force people to play their way when it's usually the casual, """friendly""" types that are like that. It just gets old.

This is agreeable.

fpbp

developer support

that looks so comfy

Update the game

Morning/Night time and weather variants of vanilla maps were my favorite custom maps. I had a bunch of different versions of 2fort like that.

we don't need a tf3
just a source 2 tf2 port that keeps all the mechanics intact while fixing the fucked hit detection and shit like that

giving sniper a alt class that is just an ak or semi-auto.

giving spy dual pistols and 150 health with the pistols, no invis and no disguise kit.

giving heavy a shield gives him 250 health but takes less damage from bullets and explosions similar to demo's shields.

how did i do?

Awful, kys

ikr, I also want a daytime version of Kong King

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how is it awful user?

So the tf2 economy is going to switch over to keys isn't it?

You want a kiss?
Pucker up dearie!

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It should be server side, if it was client side you might have people sneaking around at night from their perspective while being out in broad daylight in another's. It would mess with the balance if vision was better for only some people

It already is. Seriously valve just give everyone a free key before they reach 100 ref

The only thing I would do is making for pyro a weapon only with a compression blast to make for him a more competent deffensive alt class. (it could also show wm1 pyros that their fav class indeed has 2 different skills)
I would agree, but moments when a whole server decides that everyone should play spy knife only/etc. are too good.

Better players.
I normally steamroll the entire enemy team with soldier on every game and it's not fun anymore.

waifus

so next year then?

>Day/Night variants of maps
>Midnight Upward
>Night Hydro
>Morning Borneo
>Afternoon Mercenary Park
I WANT IT NOW

go play comp then

>overgrown upward

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source please

>shield heavy

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how about a fucking content update that might help with a lot of things

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artist's name is Rapetacular, kinda cringey

based

According to soldier mains, every class should fuck off except medic.

An update

I respect all TF2 players. I think players that whine about a class being too OP should just git gud. Good players win no matter what.

Not even new content, just general bug fixing, weapon balancing and reviewing the entire matchmaking system (or better yet, get rid of it in favor of community servers) would be enough.

heavy is overpowered

Shitty Soldier mains have the notion that the entire game(and classes) revolves around them. Anything which is disturbing their gameplay should be removed. The Pyro is good at disturbing, especially Soldiers.

>there's no gamemode where you have to escort Miss Pauling across the battlefield

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Civilian mode was supposed to be a thing in the original TF2 but it got scrapped.

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The issue is, how you're going to balance it with the current weapons? Sniper or a kritzed Demo would end a round very quickly, except you bloat the escort with several thousand HP.

They already killed TF2 by putting cosmetics in it in the first place. They need to kill it again because it refuses to die.

Civilian class

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>Force players into the next product
Pull an EA like they did to BF1 by adding a few broken weapons and never patch them bacause they are "busy developing" the next product.

conga conga conga!

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Revert 99% of changes done after Tough Shit and Meet Your Rage. Bring Back lost Features from 2007 into the game. Add the option to toggle cosmetics so that they don't drag down framerates to oblivion by having all the models constantly loaded at all times.

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add a refined metal sink

Remove spawn wallhacks on enemy spies. It literally deletes the whole characters ability to work

Except Soldier shits on Pyro ?
Pyro is hated because it's a mistake not because it's good.

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I'm thankful you're not a game designer.

Option A - Listen to the actual community for input from all types of players and not 8 compfags for no fun allowed nerf everything input, then make changes based on what you got

Option B - Announce support for the game being dropped and pull the plug on all TF2 services (matchmaking, inventories, any other API), if the community likes the game they'll keep it alive with hosting community servers

Option C - Remove sniper because despite being 13% of the player base, sniper mains are involved in 90% of cheating incidents

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Time traveling back to the carefree era known as the mid to late 2000's

Melee only

you didn't refute anything

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This, I miss it so much

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>Cosmetics carry over
Fine but carried-over cosmetics are untradeable in TF3
>But that would drive the price of them up in TF2
Fuck I don't know, Jesus.

Give Heavy the Soldier's banners

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Only solution is to remove TF2 from steam when TF3 launches and make the cosmetics from TF2 carry-over and make them non-tradeable.
Cosmetics obtained within TF3 are of course tradeable

valve employees don't play heavy so this won't happen

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Remove sniper/nerf sniper rifles, and random crits are off by default

Under 100 hrs detected. Unless your scout, spy, or an out of place sniper a pyro is always a free kill.

You are wrong
You are also wrong
They may have been 2.33 when the über update dropped but they were 8 by the time I started trading and scamming. I went on crappack.tf almost every day to find out what items were good to steal from little kids, keys were 20 at the very least by gunmettle. They haven’t been 2.33 since before the über update. The people with idle bots have made refined metal more worthless by the day. I stopped playing after jungle inferno, came back a few weeks ago to find my keys are now worth 52 refined.

I would prefer it if they updated the game to a new engine or at least DX12, redo the textures and models and continued updates.

Are you serious? I have 1200 hrs and never once did I think I lost a game because of a few great snipers.

The Diamondback is the only weapon in the game that actually makes me mad when I get killed by it.

>encounter possible cheater
>search their steam ID on google
>banned from multiple community servers by SMAC
>now he's in casual mode taking a dump on my team with stealth aimbot
so what I'm saying is, SMAC installed & force enabled on all servers

For me, it's the Vaccinator

>but they were 8 by the time I started trading and scamming
That's 2015 or later then, though.
Mannconomy was 2011.

you must be new

>ywn be digested by Miss Pauling

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GRU plus conch would be so goddamn fun. However, heavy with on demand laser beams might be op, but then again, good soldiers have banners ready at pretty much any given time.

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>good soldiers have banners ready at pretty much any given time.
Exactly. I get tired of explaining how Heavy having mini-crits for 10 seconds every once in a while wouldn't be OP. Heavy has to give up his sandviches, just like Soldier has to give up his gunboats. Forcing Heavy to rely on healh pickups while trying to build up 600 damage in a rage meter is harder than you think.

>but what about pocket medics

Any power class that's being pocketed is OP. That's kind of the point. If you pocket a good Soldier with a buff banner, he'll be popping them every minute too.

Smoggy looks better

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I've said this so much and I believe it too.
I want a TF3 that uses my GPU more than my CPU.

Remove soldier
/thread

The only time I die to a pyro is when they're pressuring me with someone else and I'm forced to shoot. If you're able to bait an airblast out of them in a solo 1 vs 1, they're fucked. You can even fire a rocket straight up in the air, and they'll airblast out of pure instinct. That's when you can immediately close in and follow up with another one before they can airblast again.

If tf3 happened what would you guys want in it

remove all redditors in-game; make server browser great again

I'd rather have new mercs but I don't think current Valve has the capacity to pull them off.
Also, a dedicated melee/knight class so demo can actually get some more explosive weapons.

What if valve made it so you could craft like 5 ref into a key that would fix the economy right?

A time machine to travel back to when it was still relevant.

Make it planetside 1

A time machine to travel to the present sounds pretty useless.

You are free to break it up by mass-killing the other team. That usually works out when the other team backlashes and starts kill your other teammates. With that being said, this is what made tf2 SOULFUL so go play Overwatch instead

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Make it into a key-like item that can open any of the crates but has a chance of destroying whatever's inside. And no unusuals.

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>With that being said, this is what made tf2 SOULFUL so go play Overwatch instead
TF2 was soulful long before taunt cosmetics, zoomer

>this is what made tf2 SOULFUL
I'm ashamed you think so lowly of TF2

TF3

Half sniper's damage.

this

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A development team consisting more than one intern and a potted plant.

A sequel

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No one ever watered the intern, he died last week.

pyros don't counter spies anymore. They're too busy spamming m2 and jerking themselves off for having "skill" for getting free crits/minicrits.

Random drops and trading.

>What if valve made it so you could craft like 5 ref into a key that would fix the economy right?

First and foremost it would make TF2 a lot less profitable for Valve.

>rewritten in Source 2
So no rocket jumping or good movement mechanics?

more hats

Pyro counters Soldier in the most retarded way, reflects punish Soldier for actually trying to aim directly instead of using splash, its the complete opposite of what it should be, in fact you can intentionally use splash to avoid reflects

I'm a soldier/medic main and I've never been unable to deal with a pyro. the only class I hate is heavy because of how absurdly powerful he is against literally any class even if you get the drop on him.

It would also allow players to immediately recognize if they're in a server in their region. If matchmaking throws you in to a night server during the day, you know you're playing in the wrong region.

More weapons.

boner no

Pre engy update servers. Removal of matchmaking could be good too.

Fuck off with this bullshit "kill it off."
Fuck you. TF2, no matter what bullshit Valve pulls, will always be the most fun multiplayer FPS there is.
Fuck you. I'll keep playing TF2 until I'm dead.

same

>Implement the comics as playable maps
>Implement Heavy's sister as a playable character, maybe alt skin for Heavy
>Implement all the silly costumes they wear in the comics, including naked Soldier covered in honey

Bring the comics into the game, basically.

They aren't stopping you. They're having fun, too.

remove soldier. 99% of soldier mains are trash human beings despite the class being pretty cool

>They aren't stopping you.
Except when they kick you for capping on 2fort cause 2fort is "silly map for deathmatch and tf2 is casual wacky hat simulator xD"

Nobody has ever said this. Ever.
But sometimes just dancing or rock-paper-scissors battling are fun and there's nothing wrong with having as much fun in as many ways as possible, you autist.

removing random crits

see

I agree.
Throw in more weapons, maps, gamemodes, more support for MvM and a new MvM type thing, that we're good.

Revert game back to the way it was in 2009

Same Mercs.

saw this suggestion last week - an offensive MVM mode where you play as blue mercs destroying a red themed robot base.

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>halve damage
>double charging
>same max damage, no instant death on quickscope for 5/9 classes

Never seen it happen in my life.
Never been kicked for it while I was tryharding, never seen anyone else kicked.

That would be great.
More gamemodes that are tied to the story would be fantastic.
Violet Mann should be the new villain, as her father is dead.

Revert everything back to 2007 except for exploit fixes.

bring back the map timers and extension votes, this sitting through an end of round screen, a loading screen, (even for the same fucking map) and another preround everytime someone caps is beyond frustrating.

Possible, but it literally happened to me a few hours ago and it happens about 1/10 CTF games - why do you think I'm such a salty bitch about it.

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Too soon, there are no new mechanics or technologies that could make it better than it's already is.

Can someone explain why it can't just reset the score to 0 immediately if no one chooses a different map during the voting screen? Why's it gotta reload the same map.

I reinstalled TF2 a couple months after the pyro update came out after about 2 years of not playing. Joined a server, muted all the third world children and tried to do the contracts so I could try out the new content. Got votekicked for killing friendlies after I finished the contract.
Promptly uninstalled. Game is 99% furries, children, and south americans. F2P was a mistake.

This was my dream from day 1 of mvm, but it's not happening.
Valve works in a way that whatever's assigned priority gets all the people available on stand-by, and tf2 is on ass end of the list. They said amount of people assigned to a project doesn't matter, it may be 1 guy 1 day and 30 the next depending on "priority", which basically confirms the rumor about there being 3 people sitting on tf2 just to maintain it working for now.
They're propably still trying to save artifact against all odds, got some heavy vr thing(s) likely, I'd assume steam as a whole is a constant drain on resources, dota and cs get support so I assume they bring in more money than tf2.

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>just kill the friendlies bro! no one is saying you can't kill them!

Find a way to rejuvenate community servers. I would play a lot more if we had 2007-12 era servers running crazy maps like Cyberpunk, Harbl Hotel, and other unique ones instead of the wasteland of Orange, trade, deathrun etc. we have now. Even looking under the "crazy maps" section of teamwork.tf, it's all just highertower. I don't know how to fix this but that's what I'd do.

valve is incompetent, and the matchmaker was thrown together in a panic because overwatch came out and took some players from the game that was released in 2007.

Total cancer that a game could ever spawn friendlies anyway. Don't know how anyone could enjoy """playing""" that way.

I repeat, I've literally never seen it.
And if it has happened, that's not because "friendlies" ruined the game, it's because, unfortunately, you ended up playing with a bunch of assholes.

remove spy

I'm a spy main and pyros are extremely easy to kill, if I wanted to remove someone I had a hard time dealing with it'd be scout

There's assholes on both sides, and the asshole "tryhards" are rightfully called out for kicking friendlies. Friendlies and no-cappers on the other hand have become a protected class who can do no wrong, so their actions are usually defended by everyone else in the server, even if they're in the wrong.