Are you still upset?

>But better in most aspects
For every improvement there's an equivalent fuck up

Upset that Nintendo made a weak game?

That has been the case for pretty much every 3D zelda between OoT and BotW. In fact, Okami is the perfect example to use for your argument because it proves that the "traditional" zelda formula isn't actually well-liked and people only bought zelda games because of the name.

BROWN N BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

IGN's decimal system has always been retarded. Do they still do that shit?

8.8 is really a generous score for TP.

Furry stuff was shitty, but Darknuts and the dungeons were good. My favorite was Arbiter's Ground. I disliked Majora more.

8.8 is still way too high for that game. It's a literal OOT rehash that manages to have dungeons even more braindead than wind waker.

And on a subjective note, I thought the game was just extremely ugly and unpleasant to look at, especially in the twilight sections.

You don't remember this girl's name.
In fact, you're about to google it now.

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The human NPCs for sure, but I actually liked the world map and dungeons more than Ocarina.

>to have dungeons even more braindead than wind waker.
lol not even close.
They're THAT bad that even Divine Beasts in BotW are more complex than them.

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TP is my favorite Zelda

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Greater offenses have been made.

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TP was shit. Furfags love it though because of their ugly nigger imp so retard waifufags Will rate it higher because le shortstak xD

Snake eater is the worst good mgs game

Nah in hindsight 8.5 is about right for TP. Great game, too much padding and a kinda shit start. Wolf Link is a letdown too.

It's still an easy 9.

I've always thought 8 is a fair score for TP.

lol no, 9 is the absolute highest any mgs game deserves, and 3 ain’t it

Does anyone unironically still care about arbitrary numbers handed by ""critics"" who generally suck shit and barely even like video games

Good rating. Game is instantly ruined for me everytime i play because of that shitty on the rails driving segment
>but all mgs had them!!
It was only good and made sense in 1

Yes if it makes the other company’s customer base seethe

Tp was hyped as the true sequel to OOT, it was awaited as the GameCube's savior and then the killer app of the Wii.
Remember that the game wasn't even out yet and people were outraged that the score was too low even though they hadn't even played it yet. Nintendo fanboyism at its height

I'm still upset that piece of shit skyward sword got all those 9s and 10s

>a few, largely trivial improvements
>multiple large shortcomings in gameplay compared to OOT

8.8 is too generous.

>sending poor Jeffrey actual death threats because he gave a Zelda game an 8.8
good on Gamespot back in the day to stand by their review.

Skyward Sword having a fucking 93 on Metacritic is proof that there is no justice in the world of vidya reviews. Holy shit.

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Wind Waker was better. Like I can replay Wind Waker and still have fun, TP is just bad. Not even the HD remaster saved it

MGS2 doesn't have any on-rails driving segments. It does have swimming with Emma, though.

Also, I'd probably agree that the climactic finale to the game was a bit much, escaping Grozny Grad is an absurdly long sequence, and it is very impressive what they did, no doubt, but it is no more effective than the simple tunnel chase sequence MGS1 had, in fact it is far from as effective as that.

Not really since it makes sense. It had a terrible start and did nothing really new but what it had was polished to a mirror shine.

OOT was one of the first of its kind in terms of innovation and there wasn't much like it beforehand.

This too

It was a different time, people cared more about reviews. Looking back it looks so silly because it still is a good score.
What people were saying about TP and SS was right, they coudnt let it go from the same tired formula. BOTW was necessary even if it wasnt what I wanted

Subsistence maybe. Regular Snake Eater doesn't deserve a 9.

Snake Eater plays better with the overhead camera. Forces you to actually be vigilant.

It just forces you to constantly use first person before doing anything. The static camera worked in 1 and 2's small rooms but it doesn't fit the more open level design of 3 at all.

Given that I pre-ordered the game and originally thought Zelda games should deserve no less than 9 at the time, no I'm not mad.
Game is painfully linear, graphics have aged like milk spilled behind the fridge, there's so many items that are situational or redundant what could have had more use, the game is piss easy even for Zelda standards and so many times the story seems like it's going to change the formula only to fall back on the same tired tropes the series uses. I will say the ideas and characters are solid, like Midna, the gameplay has some really good moments like the city in the sky, some of the minigames and the new sword techniques. It really doesn't deserve more than an 8, it's a game I really don't care to go back to despite liking it at the time and I honestly still put Wind Waker above it just because it's aged better and I'm not all that bothered with the sailing, shits cozy. Triforce bullshit sucked though.

I believe they do

*ahem*
WHO SCORED IT AND WHY SHOULD I CAAAAAARE

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botw is mediocre, its only remarkable because it isnt a formula game

Wow what a brave opinion

You must be a really special person

If this game is 8.8 then the original Nier should be 10/10
So clunky and washed out...

Should been lower, and I've loved the series since the NES days. Gathering tears sucked, the waggle was God awful, items were basically only used in their dungeon. The story was ok until Zant goes full fucking Looney Tunes. Concept of the old hero of time helping you was cool, but has since been tarnished by Nintendo's triple timeline bullshit.

Great to see a Zelda that had a strong direction
The only thing that brought it down was the shoehorning of Wii mechanics dumbing down certain aspect.
But was the first Zelda since Majora that had SOUL

clunky is just not the word to criticize this game. Of all the angels to come at this, you choose a really subjective and historically consistent aspect of the series.
how is tp more clunky than oot or windwaker if they control the fucking same? if anything, switching weapons is faster in this game.
are we talking about the same game?

Agreed. Okami was so fucking good. One of my favorite games

Yes but it's nothing to do with tloz

Skyward Sword was a solid 7.5, maybe 8.

TP was a 7

I'm mostly pissed that the bosses only required 3 openings to kill. They were so damn easy and underwhelming

Numbered grading systems are moronic. An 8.8 is appropriate depending on what you consider a 10. Twilight Princess one of my favorite games of all time.

>multiple large shortcomings in gameplay compared to OOT
Such as?

Twilight Princess is a legit 10/10

OoT and MM have aged poorly and are overrated because of this. They are 7/10.

SS and WW are 6/10.

BotW is at most 5/10 for being empty open-world trash

What a stupid thing to say.

Hyrule fields in Twilight Princess is the biggest flaw in the game
Other than that, the game is great

when i played it was tagteam with my brudda
supposedly i happened to stop at the cusp of every boss fight
regardless my impressions were that the game had some unnecessarily huge, empty, expanses and the game felt boring
Not sure what everyone else's complaints may be, but for me its how the game suffers from being open and empty

gotta admit that's a really high score for such a bad game. People were still fresh off thinking it were somehow inspired by OoT though so they just had to give it bonus points.

Doing the same for BotW, however, is actually just embarrassing. Only an tryhard ultra-tard would rate that game above a 5/10 for any variety dubious and irrelevant reasons beyond the game's content.

>MM

WW is a 10/10 and the most SOUL zelda with MM

Overrated is a meaningless term, and I notice that you rank poorly all of the 'cartoony' Zeldas, which leads me to believe you're just a brainlet.

how insecure do you need to be to respond that way when you favorite game is in reality mediocre at best.

BOTW is a great game, it's just not what I want from Zelda.

>legit 10/10
>aged poorly
>botw is empty

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it is neither a great game, or what zelda ought to have become.

it might have been great if it came out in like 2008 or some shit.

I've never played twilight princess.
Is it good?

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Very.

This. Honestly I preferred ALBW over BOTW, if they just did something like that game but in 3D I would be satisfied

Sounds to me like you just don't like it because in your brain you've associated it with those types of people you just mentioned. Sounds to me like you don't actually have your own opinion about the game itself, and may not have even played it.

Good for a Zelda game, mediocre in every other metric.

>3 hour tutorial
what a misstep

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It is a great game, you just have very little understanding of what that entails.

the game is about a domineering naked imp cunt who works you like a dog, and also the twist that your character also turns into a dog sometimes.

and the dog gameplay is trash and never improves.

and a questionable midi soundtrack.

and some very questionable charaacter designs.

I feel like it's only bad on the first go, I usually breeze through it on revisits
I enjoyed it. Has its flaws but still a great adventure

I did too. ALBW was fantastic. For a while there I was worried we would never have a good handheld Zelda again.

It should have been lower, TP is 7/10 minus the Nintendo Bonus

8.8 was too generous

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No because TP was a bad game.

i mean you're free to say that but I don't think it's getting you any further from your ultimate fate of going to hell so.

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Zelda fags always have the most shit opinions
>TP is bad
>Everything after N64 sucks
>BOTW is bad
>Wind Waker is the best
>Zelda II is bad (implying you faggots even played the 2D games)
If you have any of these opinions just kill yourself

List some non-Zelda games of comparable genres that you think are better than TP.

This should be good.

Agreed, I love Wind Waker but there’s no denying how overrated most 3D Zeldas are.

Good one.

I'd wager most 3rd person hack n slashers from that era, across the PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube, are better than TP.

Maximo?
Jak n Daxter?

It had more SOUL than grimdark, boring, cookie cutter TP.

>OoT and MM above LA and LttP

God no.

The people who defend SS must have brain damage.

Contrarion spotted.
Zelda II is fucking awful.

LoZ has value, but ALttP fleshed out the formula a lot better.
LA perfected the formula, OoA and OoS further expressed that.
MC modernized it a bit more, and wasn't as strong, but was still solid gold.
Zelda II is a nightmare, and more like the CDi games than anything (and yes I have played those too)

Not really. I thought TP was great, but I could see why some people might not be so fond of it.

It really makes me wish it got a sequel, especially on Switch. Would be all over it if it happened

Zelda II has the best combat on the NES, I was genuinely blown away by how intensive that shit was when I first played it and it keeps the sense of exploration and progression intact too without being overly obtuse except for the fucking mirror. Fuck off it is a great game

Your posts are just getting dumber and dumber, and you're a Redditor to boot.

Well if you plan on checking it out, don't buy the HD remaster since the shitty extra content doesn't justify the full price.
its the best 3d formula game between oot, ww, and ss; its good but not perfect and it plays how you would expect.
>pros
its got a great soundtrack. good boss battles, I found it more fun to explore, actually decent combat moves, generous warp spots
>cons
everything besides occasionally being a wolf generic, you can only hunt poes at night which slows exploring to a degree. its got the slowest start to any zelda game (a little under an hour)

Like any zelda game, I only recommend it if you are in the mood for a zelda game and you haven't played the other ones in a while since most games in the series play out the same way.
Emulate that shit for free on dolphin, but be sure to enable the built in patch that dolphin uses just for this game or else it will run at 10 fps 2 hours in at hyrule field. I have a toaster and it ran like a dream.

I was never upset because I don't care what some faggy journo thinks of a game AND i'm not a deranged Nintendo fanboy who loses his shit every time a Nintendo game gets a less than perfect score. I never even played this game because 3D Zelda games are kinda shitty.

TP is good, but not amazing.WW is deeply flawed but alright. SS sucks dick.

TP is alright but it really stood out to me as one of the worst 3D zelda because of the items you pick up throughout the game. Too many of the items turned out to be way too situational, things that you almost only use in that Dungeon and never again, obviously I'm talking about the spinner. Previous games build up and you use all the items in future dungeons. This started being the game where now everything is designed around one item.

There isn't really an excuse, either. TP was super linear so it's not like you were going to be caught in a dungeon without the right items. BOTW maybe at least has an excuse because you can do any of the four "dungeons" in any order, but they are pretty shitty dungeons all the same.

8.8 is aight. Aesthetic was cool the darker pallete got boring quick though. I liked the bitchy regal Zelda look though and Midna was 11/10 companion. Ratings don’t mean shit though.

>without being overly obtuse
You are out of your fucking mind. Zelda II is somehow even grindier and more of a slog to get through than Kid Icarus.

Upset that that was too high a score? Nah, not really.
Twilight Princess was the biggest disappointment in my 20+ years of gaming, sure, but eh...

WW isn't deeply flawed. The only thing that sucks about it is the boring as fuck triforce shard hunt. Everything else is either good or fucking great.

N-no.

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If they get it they're better off either waiting for a bundle port with WW HD or getting it for $50 on the eShop

>How?

Pacing. Certain aspects of TP are top tier Zelda but the overall pacing of the game lets it down.

breath of the wild is the most fun ive had with a video game since minecraft. It's not perfect but it certainly isn't some horrible trash like everyone here purports it to be. Now I will say the people who play beyond 60 hours are probably autistic and have a few screws loose.

>Too many of the items turned out to be way too situational, things that you almost only use in that Dungeon and never again, obviously I'm talking about the spinner.
This old meme again. The only item that did not have use outside of its dungeon and a few select spots was the Dominion Rod. The spinner had combat and traversal applications. You may not have used it yourself, but any time I play TP I keep it on quick select as soon as I get it.

any one of cross code's dungeons are better any zelda dungeon
they just have more engaging puzzles that test varying amounts of coordination as well as intelligence, and its usually both
every single dungeon introduces new mechanics AND adds depth to the old ones. Not to mention, completing each dungeon adds layers of options in combat.

in TP, when you left the dessert temple with the spinning top, you never used that shit again

I love the game but that ocean is real empty. I can easily see why someone would hate it.

If TP has bad pacing and deserves 8.8 then I don't want to know how low would BotW score because of it's complete lack of any drive

You do though, you use it in Hyrule Castle and to get a few Heart Pieces and other overworld goodies

>breath of the wild is the most fun ive had with a video game since minecraft.

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>the boring as fuck triforce shard hunt
I've never understood this complaint. You just do it on your way while exploring, or get through it in 15 minutes on a second playthrough.
Must be kids with more adderall than patience trying to rush to the credits.

lmao
So you were a Sony kid with sour grapes, I take it.

getting mad over that review is by far the most pathetic thing that the gaming community has ever done.

>botw is a 7/10

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>It was mediocre at its best moments, and boring for its majority.

Then how is that even a 7? Average is 5 (it should be), so you're saying it's a 4?

He's right though. There has yet to be a game that is as original and as unique as Minecraft. I still bust it out every two months and start a new world.

Okami, and Darksiders

No, i played TP when it came out on gamecube.
Even then Nintendo was planting the seed of making me hate them since they arbitrarily delayed the game on gamecube so they could push the Wii version and drive Wii sales up -- all for what amounted to a disengaging fairy sprite floating around on your screen at all times.
At least Skyward Sword was actually designed with the Wii in mind from the get-go.

more like drive tp sales up

Fuck no. Okami is a chore, everything people complain about in Zelda is done even worse in Okami.
Darksiders is just off brand trash.
Next you'll say Alundra or God of War.

what few enjoyments exist in minecraft have no parallels in botw.

minecraft is legos. you can build and design and discover your own fun. it's also multiplayer.

botw is just a big overworld map with havok physics. the similarities start and end at chopping down trees.

>as original and as unique as Minecraft
Infiniminer?

>the most uninspired Hyrule seen through piss filter
>8.8
Yes I am, definitely the most overrated game in the whole franchise.

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So what you're saying is, you hate the game because of things outside of the game itself, and have no valid or insightful opinions whatsoever.

Much higher than I would've given it. It was a solid 7. I enjoyed even Skyward Sword more.

>piss filter
Stop using words you don't understand.

>overrated
That's two strikes.

Zelda fans are such conniving niggers. You make a thread for TP and its either a shit game or a great game. You make a thread for SS and its either a shit game or a great game. You make a thread for BotW and its either a shit game or great game. Repeat this for WW, MM, OoT, literally every goddamn Zelda game ever made. I hate this fandom so fucking much. Its not even a Zelda cycle anymore, its some fucking clown fest with shit smeared all over the room. Its pure unbridled chaos filled with drones and disenfranchised neckbeards saying this is shit and that is shit. I'm just going to take a stance and say that Zelda was never good and you're all fucking retards for clinging on to it. At least the Sonic fandom has clear lines drawn on the sand for which camps are which.

ayo don't fucking talk to me you insane idiot.

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Weird that no one responded to this It's as if the people that dog on TP are just bandwagoning faggots that that haven't considered their opinions for even a moment.

No Zelda game after the N64 ever did anything to warrant a score higher than that, even an 8 is very generous.
It's a series that 100% leeches off of its own past accomplishments. BOTW for example is a fun game, but if Ubisoft published it with no-name characters, nobody would ever give it more than a 7 or 8.

Thank you for confirming.

This was when I first started browsing Yea Forums and even then, as a Zelda fan, I didn't care.

I would argue that it's just secondaries trying to look cool.
Almost all Zelda games are at the very least great games, which includes every single one of the popular ones.

>you dont use it until the end of the game and its not good for combat either
trash

Average is objectively not a "5". Average is and always had been a 7. You know what happens if you get a 50 in a course at school? You're not average -- you're a fucking failure

>and its not good for combat either
Yes it is you fucking moron. Just because YOU didn't use it, doesn't mean it didn't have a use. I use it extensively in every playthrough, every time there's a mob of weak enemies like rats, or if I want to do a short burst of speed in human form.

Thanks to people like you the new zelda has three puzzle solving items and was robbed of any joy of exploring and discovering new ones.

You're drooling on your keyboard again, Grugg.

>I have no original thoughts or opinions so I have to regurgitate rage towards someone because they format their posts to be easier to read

Seethe more that babby's first Zelda was unquestionably shit.

School grades are not review scores....

I know, right? Way too generous. It's a 6/10 absolute tops.
Based except score way too high for BOTW

Well, it has 4.
5 if you count the glider, which you probably should. But I agree that it's a stupid complaint.

It's more of an 8

Honestly, it deserves a 7.5
Still a good Zelda game, but lately Ive come into the opinion that 3D Zeldas are actually generally held to a lower standard than other 3d games.
This is coming from a guy who loves Majora's Mask and BotW

Not him but 7 has meant average in the game review world for more than a decade now. You have to be underaged to not know that.

Correct -- review scores are an established trend for movies, TV shows, and video games, where society has a whole has largely accepted that 7 = Average.

TP was the least Zelda that had that creepy vibe to it like OoT and MM had.

All Zelda games are rated 3.0 higher than they actually deserve.

Original thoughts like "grimdark", "seethe", "baby's first", and "cookie cutter"?
Kill yourself you Reddit swine. And no, putting a line break after every fucking sentence does not make it easier to read, it makes it tiresome to read.

Hoping we get that back in BOTW 2 and it seems we are. I've missed it

Yes, for the same braindead reason as that other user posted. Which means games are on a sliding scale of 5 to 10, with most games being 7 - 10. It's a fucking joke of a grading system and makes no sense outside of education to say that 7 is "average".

7 - 9*

Sorry, can you try writing that again? You format like a peasant farmboy so I can't be bothered reading it. The Saudi oil workers I teach English to write better than you.

Why would I be upset? Someone else’s opinion didn’t stop me from having fun.

Good one.

Yeah, we know, it's dumb as fuck. If a bad game is a 6/10, what is the point of 1-5.

For the REALLY bad or unplayable glitchy games. Holy fuck, how hard is it to understand?

Except for when such a game comes out and gets a 6 or 7. No Man's Sky, for instance, has a 71 Metacritic score.

It's hilarious that Ocarina of Time is considered the best game of all time when twilighht princess is just an improved Ocarina of Time. Literally the only downgrade is the wolf segments, which contrary to what people say are shorr. The dungeons and characters are way better. Graphically it was obviously much better as well.

Subsistence is dogshit. Completely ruins the game because it wasn’t designed around the over the shoulder camera.

Bad pacing and linear cinematic story telling.

While yes OOT was still linear in that you pretty much had to do the dungeons in order, the world wasn't a massive circular loop with a story that set you on rails until you're half way through the game.

After my second wolf link segment I was like 'fuck this shit' and they should have made form swapping available much much earlier.

The yeti dungeon was pretty fucking neat though, kind of nice to have a dungeon that also has NPCs living in it.

8.8 was too high. That entire debacle just shows how rabid Zelda fanboys are and they are incapable of any criticism.

I enjoyed the game very much and I don't care for reviewscores at all. I was never upset and this meme has caused me great amusement.

>People were still fresh off thinking it were somehow inspired by OoT though so they just had to give it bonus points.
This, basically. Anyone old enough to remember the "Celda" controversy will know that even people who came around and admitted to enjoying Wind Waker still felt like it was a "bastard" Zelda game, because OoT brought so many new fans to the franchise that only wanted more of the same out of it. There was SO much clamoring, especially in the US, for the next Zelda game to be a Lord of the Rings-style fantasy epic (especially with the popularity of the movies at the time) that Nintendo clearly forced the game in that direction, and even went so far as to shoehorn Ganondorf into the plot at the last minute to throw casuals a bone because they knew they'd never see a game without Ganon as the villain as a "true" Zelda legend. When TP finally came out, so many people let out a relaxed sigh and said "Finally, a REAL Zelda", simply because of the graphics and similarity to OoT, and a lot of the scores felt inflated because of it.

This entire attitude is also apparent in how rushed Wind Waker and Minish Cap were; they're some of the only games in the series where the missing content is so painfully obvious. I get the feeling that, given how poorly the Gamecube was performing, and how strong the negative reception was to Wind Waker's aesthetic upon reveal, Nintendo wanted to move the timetable for development up and just get those two games the fuck out of the way so they could make OoT 2.0. Given Miyamoto's loyalty and aversion to conflict, I highly doubt this would ever be confirmed, even if it were true, but it makes a lot of sense.

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Too many cutscenes, wolf link was a bad gimmick and the exploration was non-existant because the game was set on rails for its cinematic storytelling.

Its the polar opposite of BOTW, where BOTW had no dungeons or quest progression because no items no dungeons, Twilight Princess was trying too hard to set the character on rails.

Yeah it should be 5/10.

That was the turning point for vidya journalism. Why give honest reviews when rabid fans will spam your site? Just give high scores to triple As and to whoever sponsors you the most.

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>Zelda II has the best combat on the NES
I would agree if the hit detection on enemies with shields wasn't so wonky that it's just easier to bypass all legitimate combat by doing the jump-slash trick.

>Bad pacing and linear cinematic story telling
So OoT?

bro did you play the game? they change the main story halfway through and never bring up the old plot points again.

just post midnas

It's exactly like Ocarina of Time, but with a lot more to do.

Also this hot girl rides for you like one third of the game, that's fucking awesome.

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Let me guess, you think Ganon "came out of nowhere"?

>and the exploration was non-existant because the game was set on rails for its cinematic storytelling.
This. Although to me, the worst offender wasn't even due to cinematic storytelling, it was the fucking "Tears of Light" bullshit. Nothing but pointless filler. The game would force you to the next area and wouldn't even let you explore it on your own; you'd have to poke around looking for these stupid tears as wolf Link, which completely killed any enthusiasm you had for actual exploration, because by the time you had freedom to explore an area as Link with all of your equipment, you had already trodded back and forth across it as a wolf with a stupid color filter on the screen looking for macguffins.

I feel like, when people talk about the "Zelda formula" becoming stale, TP is the game they're talking about. That game, more than any, feels like it's just going through the motions and is loaded with pointless bloat and filler to try and trick the player into thinking they're playing Ocarina of Time DX or some shit.

8.8 is way too high for TP

>It's exactly like Ocarina of Time, but with tons of unnecessary filler and pacing issues.

>Also you can jerk it to this pedo-furfag bait, that's fucking awesome.

TPfags have such transparently bad taste, it's hilarious.

The game is too easy, the overworld is lifeless and the dungeon items suck and are way too situational.

It has some good dungeons and the story and cast are good but otherwise the game deserves the 8.8.

It's kinda like that. 3D Zelda don't even have a good track record. I found WW quite enjoyable when I got it, but it could've been a lot more filled with stuff. TP was quite underwhelming. SS was so bad, it robbed me of the small remaining hope I had for the series. BotW is just different. I liked it despite the 4 dungeons feeling a little redundant and the final boss being pretty garbage. But generally it worked for me. That doesn't mean it's entirely good either.

yes because it does not even deserve that

Its soulless OOT

>too easy
Somebody didn't play on the hero mode in the HD remake.

>The game is too easy
I feel like this is a general problem for Zelda. BotW was a neat change of pace in that regard, simply by having some monster clusters here and there. Otherwise you rarely run into more than 2-4 enemies at once in Zelda and none of them take long to take down.

Twilight Princess is underrated

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No shit, I played that game 13 years ago when it came out and could barely suffer through it. Why would I pay for it again just in hopes that some tacked on hard mode makes it more palatable?

its like OoT

minus
good atmosphere
good overworld
even more casual with less consequences for dying
shit NPC
no secrets No fairy fountains no magic meter
little content between dungeons

Is this a trick question?

TP, WW and BOTW are pretty much the only 3D Zelda's worth playing, they're all about on par and everyone should play all three.

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>there are people on this board right now who missed this glorious event and the crazy shitposting on gamefaqs

>WW
>Worth playing

Lmao

Huh? It got a 9.6

Move BOTW up to S and the NES games down to D, and it's good.

>Okami is a chore
This. When I first played through it, I thought it was great but trying to go back and replay it was abysmal, couldn't even get halfway through it because it was such a slog

TP is like a 7.5
A real 8.8 is like, OoT
the only zelda's I'd give a 9+ are Link's Awakening and Oracle of Seasons (haven't played Ages)

It should have been lower.

The game looks really great at 1080p, but you do you I guess.

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Not entirely disagreeing, but could you elaborate?

>PH over Wind Waker
Now That's What I call Contrarion!

8.8 is way too high, so yes.

Why are midna fags the only ones that defend TP?

besids better graphics and combat is a worse game then MM and OOT

Phillistine.

>that
>really great
Lol, no. Twilight Princess is one of the ugliest Zelda games. It was already looking dated just a few months after it came out. Plus, the HD remake is on the Wii U, and I can't be arsed to even find where mine is, let alone hook it up and use it. What a clunky piece of shit.

TP was the last good Zelda so no I'm not upset. But how the fuck did WW get a 96 despite being literally unfinished on top of subpar?

The dungeons are great... besides that...

a 7, max.

>It was already looking dated
Dated isn't what's wrong with TP, it's the Brown n Bloom that makes that shit an eyesore.

Comfiest Zelda game ever.

fpbp

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People just suck OoT's dick because
1. Actual Babies first zelda, but for millennial boomers
2. Bandwaggoning
The game is mediocre if you go back and play it

nope WW is the comfiest nigga

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Nobody ever goes back to replaying OoT but still claims it's the best Zelda ever because they played it 20 years ago as a kid. Fucking lol.

HD version was bloom overkill.

NOOOOOOOO THEY GAVE A MEDIOCRE GAME A SCORE HIGHER THAN IT DESERVED BUT IT WASN'T A PERFECT 10/10 SHUT IT DOWN NINTENDO KILL THIS MAN

BROS ASSEMBLE! THIS TRAVESTY MUST NOT GO UNPUNISHED!

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Ocarina of Time was the only Zelda game I'd ever played, and I really liked it. Then I played BOTW and I really, really liked that too. I'm probably gonna go back and try out Majora's Mask again. Is this just Yea Forums shitting on popular games, or is Twilight Princess actually bad?

Actual Babies first zelda, but for millennial boomer
>implying people are not doing the same with
TP because it was their first zelda

The game is mediocre if you go back and play it
I just beat it nigga if OoT is mediocre then TP is shit

>WiiU
This is the "remastered" version? Don't you typically improve things in a remaster instead of just selling an upscaled 1:1 port?

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>kiddy shit
just no

Hardly. It's my favorite game but factoring its flaws is, that's actually a very fair score.

Let me guess, you think he didn't because of some stupid headcanon that requires absurd mental gymnastics that is in no way supported by the actual content in the game? Spare me your fanfiction, TP fag.

It's a combination of both. Brown and bloom is bad, but some of the models and textures are especially shit, and it becomes way more noticable when it gets upscaled to 1080p.

Am I still mad about the rampant score inflation in video game reviews? Yes I am.
8.8 SHOULD be great, but instead its shit.
How am I even supposed to gauge a games quality when ever game gets an 8 and up?
Fuck video game """journalism""".

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Yeah well I played it last year and it was nowhere near the ebin experience you faggots claim it is. Sure, maybe for when it released, but in 2019 it's nothing special.

>"If it weren't Zelda, it would be a 7".

That defines Pandora's Tower to a T and I like TP more than that game. It is good, though.

TP is one of the better 3D Zeldas, thread just/v/ digging up old memes and shitposting.

It's not TP Remastered, It's TP HD. It runs at 1080p so it is by definition HD seething snoy.

It's literally like Ocarina of Time, the story is almost the same even and you get to visit all the same locations, but there's an edgy twist about the twilight realm, Midna and the other demons and the whole wolf transformation thing. The game is a lot more dark and serious on average. Basically, if you liked OoT and MM it's a must play. Probably the best dungeons in the series too. There's like 11 and they're all unique looking with unique gimmicks and items.

Cool. What other games would you recommend? I like the idea of Skyward Sword being a massive prequel, but apparently it's dogshit and really reliant on motion controls?

*than
and

>MM
Fuck no. MM and SS are the worst Aonuma Zeldas by far, for similar reasons. Play the games again, in release order, you clearly don't remember it.

3D zelda has been stuck in a rut since OoT, and pretty much every single one limited its scope just to implement gameplay or story mechanics that were based around OoT's own limitations with being on N64 hardware. The "traditional zelda" formula shouldn't have existed in the first place, and BotW seems to be the first 3D zelda to actually break out of that "based around N64 limitations" mold.

>midi ost
>empty overworld
>too easy
>lackluster items

The dungeons are kind of crap. Ocean feels empty.

OOT's story telling was short and sweet and gave you enough sense of adventure to want to keep moving forward

Twilight princess is "NOT ANOTHER FUCKING WOLF LINK SEGMENT"

MM, WW and SS are all somewhat more experimental entries so your mileage may vary, but TP is fairly unassuming all things considered. Not much in the way of inmovation, it largely aimed to be a sharper, more narrative driven OoT. Majority consensus is that its dungeons rank among the best in the series as well.

Twilight Princess is just OoT 1.5, that's all. There's nothing particularly special about it, and it's kind of bloated and loaded with filler. Despite having some really great dungeons and boss fights, it's probably the first time in the series that I noticed the "Zelda formula" becoming tiresome. A lot of on-rails "exploration", a very pointless gimmick, highly specialized items that feel useless outside of the dungeons themselves, and depending on your tastes, a really tryhard story with an obnoxious character that follows you around for the whole game.

It's entirely reliant on motion controls, which, while I'm highly critical of, actually worked well most of the time. Skyward Sword would have been better as a spin-off akin to Link's Crossbow training, or Dragon Quest Swords, because it completely sacrifices any sense of exploration and is loaded with forced backtracking and filler that will have you groaning, and it's absolutely shameless about it.

No? That was a decent score for a good game.

All zelda games except for the CDI zelda games are good.

Zelda fags just compare each game to their favorite, if you're going to play majora's mask don't let the time system put you off, its what makes a lot of people quit rather quickly, but once you get the bomber's handbook there is a ton of sidequest content to do and Majora's Mask is probably the only zelda game thats actually fun to 100%

OoT is something special because 21 years later it still feels standard. There are games released that still swing under par relative to OoT's execution. Vampyr is a good example, its combat clearly draws from OoT's fundamentals yet isn't as well executed despite coming out 20 years later.

Being reliant on motion controls isn't a negative if they're done well like RE4 or Zangeki No Reginleiv. SS is a mixed bag in that department, especially when your average combat situation becomes a game of simon says with your enemy.

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Yes. Last serious Zelda

You are so ADD that you can't even stick to one topic in a 2 sentence post, comparing one aspect of 2 games. Amazing.

Exactly this. I replayed OoT for the first time in a while and it's actually shocking how much more similar it is to ALttP than it is to the other 3D Zeldas after it. There's basically zero handholding or filler. There's tons of optional stuff to do that is fun and rewarding and helps flesh out the world, but if you want you can ignore than and just hop from dungeon to dungeon so you can rape Ganon ASAP, the game does not get in your way. OoT's sensibilities are far more utilitarian than any of the games that followed.

*ting ting ting ting*
Ahem

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Breath of the Wild was pretty serious.

Based

Comparing OOT to Twilight Princess is just stupid, every zelda game follows the same formula, but twilight princess was all about forcing you to watch cutscenes

Compare the intro to OOT, where all you have to do is find a sword and shield and go talk to the deku tree, to the hour long intro of twilight princess before you even get to the first dungeon, and most of that time is watching NPC roleplay.

Even Majora's Mask had the sense to make the NPCs act out in real time so you're still playing the game while they go about their day.

Oracle Games, Link's Awakening and Majora's Mask were Top teir for me.

>forcing you to watch cutscenes
You can skip them dumbass.

Imagine having so much ADHD that any story segment in a video game triggers you this much.

The village section was immersive as fuck.

I don't get what people see in WW, it's the one Zelda that I feel completely falls apart under serious scrutiny. The dungeons are subpar, the pacing never hits a good stride, the sidequests are tedious, and the sea exploration it sells itself on doesn't even pan out properly once you catch on to how it flows instead of merely looking at the premise and stopping all critical assessment there. It has a small handful of redeeming qualities but it's easily a bottom 5 Zelda in my eyes, right next to the DS Zeldas and Four Swords games.

I don’t get how more people don’t understand this.

Exactly this

To me, TP is effectively That Part: The Vidya. 8.8 is probably generous.

Should have been a 4.5

I can kinda see that, TP is very dependent on action setpieces between dungeons. Personally, I think those moments are aesthetically and atmospherically satisfying more often than not but I can absolutely see it not being someone's cup of tea, especially considering the looming problem of how incredibly easy TP is.