Is he the luckiest vidya character of all time?

You think I am a monster

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My point was that Uncharted 4 was as unnecessary as Indy 4. We didn't need to see Drake ride into the sunset living a domesticated life in suburbia america it was completely superfluous and conceited. Uncharted peaked at 2 and should've ended there.

Lazarevic was the best villain in the series, even if he was a bit generic.

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I agree that 2 is the best in the series, and 4 could've definitely handled the story better but I still enjoyed the ending for the most part, it was fitting.
My main problem is that Drake had a daughter instead of a son.

Yeah we did because Uncharted 3 was a clusterfuck. UC4 has the best combat in the series anyway w/ the ability to regain stealth

Why do you consider 3 a clusterfuck? Interested because I see people generally prefer 2 to 3 but the levels, set-pieces and puzzles are, for me, superior in 3.

>My point was that Uncharted 4 was as unnecessary as Indy 4
Uncharted 4 was the only game with character development and a good conclusion though

Not that guy but 3 has the worst story in the series. I liked the actual levels but the story was horrible in comparison to the other games.
It was obvious they just wrote the story around the set-pieces.

3 was just a retread of 2

Setpiece
Setpiece
Setpiece

Nice vidya game

*Blocks your path*

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*snap*
THATs your neck!

SP: 2 > LL > 3 > 4 > 1
MP: 3 > 2 > 4

How is 4 compared to 1-3?
I plan to play through it over the weekend.
Liked 2 quite a lot, 1 was meh, 3 was great till about the half way point, then it became god awful.

Nate's quips are part of what makes the game's so great though

I think Uncharted would be 100 times better if things didn't work out for Nathan. Like that scene in Uncharted 4 where Sam throws a item from roof to another, have Nathan not catch it. They tried to do this by making ledges crumble when you climb them, but that was too expected.

After blowing up a propane tank-
>"I love the smell of propane in the morning"

I think 3 slumps in the middle then becomes fantastic from the ship graveyard onwards.

The graveyard has a couple moments, but afterwards it just gets retarded, the story completely falls apart in my eyes.
Plus I think there's way too much shooting in all of them.

Much slower, but when there is actual combat/action, it shines.
The story is also a good send-off for Nate despite a couple discrepancies that could've been written better.
Overall it's damn good.

Unironically the only good one

Nice, I'm looking forward to it.
These types of games aren't normally my cup of tea, but I have to admit they're really well put together and can be a lot of fun for a playthrough.
Sill kinda feel TLOU was better though.

Why the fuck were there no supernatural elements in 4? I thought 4 was the weakest in the series.

>3 was great till about the half way point, then it became god awful.
3 had the worst story of the series by far.
2 had the best just because of it's simplicity and how well they paced it with the actual gameplay.
4 is great, just a lot of downtime in comparison to the other games.

4 has too much walking and talking, if you want a good Uncharted on PS4 play Lost Legacy, it's closer to 2 in terms of setpieces. And even if it redeems Nadine's character a bit from U4's it was Charlie's time to team up with Chloe.

>LL that high
Explain, because the only good level in the entire game is the part where you get the ATV. The temple's only good part is right at the top where you have to swing around aligning mirrors. Sam is basically treated like a joke, Chloe feels way different than in 2 or 3, and Nadine gets a bit more likable but she's still an asshole.

Less encounters than any other game but the ones that are there are pretty good, though heavily punishing on Crushing because everyone's ridiculously accurate and the amount of ammo you get can be dreadfully low. Lots of puzzle sections. The rope mechanic is also pretty neat.

>3 had the worst story of the series by far
Yes, that was my biggest problem with it.
Shame there's no 60 fps mode for 4, I got spoiled by the remasters.

They wanted 4 to be more grounded in realism I think

This is one of my main complaints with 4 and TLL. Supernatural elements were some of the best parts of the first 3, it was really weird that they ditched them in 4.
I was honestly hoping for ghost pirates to show up.

I want to play both 4 and LL actually, might as well finish the whole series.

I'll play on hard, I suck too much at controller aiming for Crushing.

>Explain
I don't care about Sam, his character was the worst part about U4.

I really like the theory that regenerating health in these games is actually the character's luck, so if you're in the open and being shot at, eventually your luck runs out and you're hit and killed.

Master Chief.
Well, at least up until Halo 4 retconned the extremely lucky thing into the Chosen One.

Yeah it's pretty jarring going from the trilogy in 60 fps to 4 in 30.
Then again the multiplayer is 60 and it's surprisingly really fun, one of the games I've actually put a lot of time into.
Then again 2 had some of the greatest multiplayer of all time, and I heard they are shutting down its servers which is a damn shame.

LL is one of the most forgettable games I've ever played
>even worse story than the first three games
>repeated setpiece from previous games

Makes sense until some guy smacks Nathan Drake round the face with a gun and that also does damage. Whichever retarded dev made that statement obviously didn't think it through.

But there's less setpieces in general and it's even shorter than Golden Abyss. There's that bit at the start, then the waterfall area, then there's the temple itself with climbing the statue, and then the train bit (Again) and that's it that I can recall. I just don't get why you rate it so highly, it's really not that amazing, it's just propped up due to the engine from 4 which was great and it had some better firefights than 4 had.

An actual Uncharted thread where people are actually talking about the games? Nice

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His time came and ended right on the brink of his franchise turning to absolute leftist trash.
While U4 had its fare share of cancer, it'll never even remotely compare to what's in store for the franchise's future.

At least the saga of Nathan Drake came to a satisfying ending; the only damage that will be done is to the franchise's brand, and not his legacy.
Same thing can't be said for many iconic characters and franchises, such as Splinter Cell, Ass Cancereed and Wolfenstein to name a few.
If that's not luck, I don't know what is!

It was supposed to be an expansion before they turned it into it's own thing, that's why it was also cheaper. The setpieces, I don't know, it didn't have as many slow sections as U4 while retained the gameplay, and was a fairly length game.

>Wolfenstein
There may be some horrid characters and shit storytelling in the newest Wolf game, but BJ is still based
>"What good is your fuckin "equality", you can't muster the backbone to stick up for your people while the coyote is scratchin at your front door!"
>"BOLSHEVIK COWARDS"

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Yes cause he gets to suck on these toes

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>It's basically a video game version of Indiana Jones
This is a really terrible comparison that people keep making, same with the Tomb Raider games. Jones raids, steals, and kills in the pursuit of knowledge. Whatever ancient, culturally significant artifact he's after, he wants to put in a museum, which are not typically organizations that purchase the items they have on display, so he'll have to end up donating them. Drake and Croft, however, are destroying historical sites and murdering the locals in the pursuit of pure profit. And unlike Jones, neither Drake nor Croft have the inherent moral high ground of having their villains be Nazis; in most cases, the people they're slaughtering wholesale's only crime is wanting to get whatever treasure the heroes are after before they do.

To put it a slightly different way, Nathan Drake and Lara Croft would both be villains in an Indiana Jones film.

>Why do you consider 3 a clusterfuck?
Isn't 3 the one where you, apropos of fucking nothing, end up on a sinking tanker?

lol

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>murdering the locals
Drake never once murdered locals, he actually helped them.
Lara in the older games definitely murdered some locals though.
>nd unlike Jones, neither Drake nor Croft have the inherent moral high ground of having their villains be Nazis
you do realize that in both Uncharted 1 and 2, it's revealed that the main problem with the super-natural enemies stemmed from Nazis making the situation worse, right? It is literally something straight out of Indy, and the reason Amy Hennig even included Nazis in the series in the first place. You have no clue what you are even talking about.

The model viewer was my favorite thing about 4 and LL

meanwhile

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One of 4's problems, reduced asses.

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You're taking this comparison way too literally. The comparison is because it's a treasure seeker going on an adventure to historical/archeological sites searching for something great and having to deal with all the traps and ridiculous puzzles associated with that artifact while fighting off some villainous organization. Neither Drake nor Lara are 1:1 Indy, no one said they were, it's the general setup.

Wasn’t the treasure cursed and led to the pirates killing each other? Or was that regular greed?
I really enjoyed exploring the overgrown pirate town though

It was just straight up greed

She still has one in LL at least

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Straight up greed, there's even an entire segment where Drake wanders around with a cup talking about how there was a toast among all the pirates which led to everyone but one guy getting poisoned and then he tried running away with the gold and even booby trapped his escape tunnels with exploding mummies.

I hope they make another Uncharted in the same line as TLL and less so in U4. That one was way too infected with TLOU syndrome

True, her and even Nadine had good looking booties.

All of the ghoul/zombie things you have to kill in Uncharted 1 are reanimated zombies, yes, but the sentient human enemies, including the main antagonists, are not Nazis. That's what I mean. Jones was trying to recover both the Ark and the Grail before the Nazis did; even if the Nazis wanted to put both of those things in a museum, Jones still has an intrinsic reason to be cheered for because the people he's up against are literally the Nazis. Drake in Uncharted 1 is trying to recover El Dorado so he can make money off of it, and the antagonist is just another dude who also wants El Dorado so he can make money off it.

Rafe LITERALLY dd nothing wrong it was all that fucking jew brother Sam.

I should replay the games soon(maybe skip the first). They are maximum comfy and entertaining

>but the sentient human enemies, including the main antagonists, are not Nazis
No fucking shit, dumbass
Like some other user said, it's not supposed to be 1:1 Indy.
>Drake in Uncharted 1 is trying to recover El Dorado so he can make money off of it, and the antagonist is just another dude who also wants El Dorado so he can make money off it.
More oversimplifying on your part, that is part of Drake's character. He's just some two-bit thief in it for the money until the story plays out and things change. He finds out the treasure is cursed and basically a chemical weapon, and that the bad-guy is trying to sell it off to terrorists, so he stops them. It's simple and fun.
If your hangup is that all the enemies weren't literal nazis then idk what to tell you.

Unironically breathtaking, I was actually very surprised over how good it looks several time through my playthrough. The story is pretty good at the beginning, charming and believable, but around the midpoint it goes to shit and feels really rushed, but at least the very end is actually satisfying.

Gameplay is the best in the series, with the glaring issue being that there's not much of it, a lot of stupid walking and talking and figuring out baby-tier puzzles, Once that's done and you get to shoot, it's pretty and it's cool as fuck

The best 7.5/10 of all time.

t. Chinese

>rtrustfund kid who hasnt worked for anything in his life
>often betrays his partners
>killing and risking other people's lives are perfectly fine
>chooses to rather get revenge instead of trying to escape a literal sinking ship that was on fire
Guy was a narcissistic, sociopathic richboy

>It was obvious they just wrote the story around the set-pieces.
At no point was that more painfully obvious than the part where Nathan is wandering around the desert, slowly dying, until he sees a few baddies camped in some ruins, then immediately gets all of his strength back.

>a lot of stupid walking and talking and figuring out baby-tier puzzles
I really enjoy doing these things once in a while. On another note I recently played The Last of Us for the first time and I’m surprised how good it looks and the details considering it was made for the PS3

best part of 4 is the pirate colony bit, looks pretty incredible desu

Basically.

Imagine having not one but four generic movie games that sell millions off platform exclusivity hype alone. If that's not luck, then I don't know what is.

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I mean, Metal Gear Solid did it years before Uncharted was even a thing, and was a way worse offender in the "movie" department

One of the greatest trailers of all time
youtu.be/BD9dJZ6Dgx4

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The first two were pretty normal action fare like Indiana Jones, but the third and especially the fourth ones seemed like they were trying way too hard to introduce muh feels. Did the writers change, or was it just the rise of SJW crap in games?

Lots of cutscenes =/= Movie game
Only MGS4 and MGSV take control away from the player to act a scripted, slow, cinematic segment that very well could be a cutscene. At the end of the day, you can skip all the cutscenes and get to the gameplay, but you can't skip all the shitty moments where characters are just standing around and talking like in Uncharted.

tl;dr You don't know what you're talking about, shut the fuck up.

Even worse. Written by a Jew.

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The gunplay is absolute shit in this series. Combine this with molasses controls, and it really is a chore to play. The only enjoyable parts are looking at the environments in quiet moments and doing the braindead easy puzzles.

Why is this fucker so hot, how do I find and kidnap a guy like this to keep in my closet as a personal plaything

>rtrustfund kid who hasnt worked for anything in his life
Irrelevant
>often betrays his partners
Only fucks over those who goes against him, is sam and drake acted like professionals and just went through it all together they would have splitted it equal ways.
>killing and risking other people's lives are perfectly fine
cold hearted buisness man, to be expected. retard brothers shouldnt have gotten involved with him n the first place. He was a famous dude before then.
>chooses to rather get revenge instead of trying to escape a literal sinking ship that was on fire
hes mad as fuck but thats because faggot sam literally sad "HURR DIS BELONG TO US CUS WE BROTHERS AND IT OUR DESTINY"
Reminder, if they all stuck together they could have used rafes resources to get what they wanted a day.
>Guy was a narcissistic, sociopathic richboy
these people are everywhere who cares.

Everything up to 4 was written by Amy Hennig, doofus.

>Did the writers change, or was it just the rise of SJW crap in games?
Amy Hennig wrote the first two, but mentioned she had to write around the set-pieces in 3.
She left before 4 started development and it was after TLOU became a thing and Goldstein followed through with the story changes and added Drake's "missing brother"

any FAT TITS in uncharted?

>>chooses to rather get revenge instead of trying to escape a literal sinking ship that was on fire
I'm still mad about this, it was completely out of character.

Oh so it's okay if it's just more cutscenes then? Making shit skippable isn't an excuse, you can beat MGS1 and 2 in about 2 hours if you skip everything, and 3 in about 3 or 4.
And not to mention Uncharted 4 and TLL are the only Uncharted games with extended walking sections, 1-3 don't have much of that at all.

>>rtrustfund kid who hasnt worked for anything in his life
>Irrelevant
Very relevant; rich boy used to getting what he wants
>>often betrays his partners
>Only fucks over those who goes against him, is sam and drake acted like professionals and just went through it all together they would have splitted it equal ways.
Except he betrays them first
>>killing and risking other people's lives are perfectly fine
>cold hearted buisness man, to be expected. retard brothers shouldnt have gotten involved with him n the first place. He was a famous dude before then.
Its still largely unethical and morally wrong regardless
>>chooses to rather get revenge instead of trying to escape a literal sinking ship that was on fire
>hes mad as fuck but thats because faggot sam literally sad "HURR DIS BELONG TO US CUS WE BROTHERS AND IT OUR DESTINY"
>Reminder, if they all stuck together they could have used rafes resources to get what they wanted a day.
They actually deserve to find the treasure unlike Rafe and he would most likely have betrayed them then
>>Guy was a narcissistic, sociopathic richboy
>these people are everywhere who cares.
Psychotic mental illnesses can define a person, especially those who act on them like Rafe did

He was referring specifically to the plot of 4

>Oh so it's okay if it's just more cutscenes then?
Yes.
>you can beat MGS1 and 2 in about 2 hours if you skip everything, and 3 in about 3 or 4
No you can't, you stupid faggot. Especially not MGS3 (which by the way, has much more intricate gameplay than Uncharted.)

Finally finished 4 yesterday

Rafe did nothing wrong he was in the right even if he was a zoomer

No, he's not. But he is one of the luckiest movie characters ever.

>No you can't, you stupid faggot
Yes you can, you stupid faggot
speedrun.com/mgs1
speedrun.com/mgs2
speedrun.com/mgs3
Also youtu.be/Jso_pPgDLlQ

>links speedruns
You're retarded. By your logic Mario 64 is ridiculously short because it's technically possible to beat the game in less than 15 minutes.

Git quick bro

Speed running doesn’t count

I've played the game skipping cutscenes and have clocked in at around 3 hours on 1 and 2, and 6 on 3.

Fuck Rafe's faggot ass, SAM is the one who did nothing wrong. He just wanted to go on a cool ass adventure with his baby brother and maybe find some pirate treasure. Sam was a good guy even if he did lie.

maybe

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Don't reply to me you disgusting attention craving tripfag

You can say Rafe was the biggest asshole on earth but he doesn't betray anyone. He bought Sam out of prison just so he can get the cross. Sam literally uses the its our destiny shit which was autism. No excuse for Drake and co to take the hard way and kill all of Rafes employees who are just on a guarding job. Why would a buisness man get a fuck up his rep by betraying his partners? That professional shit is his world/life. You should hear his multiplayer quotes.

Not soft enough.

>baby bro lets risk out lives and fuck over this extremely powerful and resourceful partner who buought me out of prison and kill all of his employees cus rich ppl r bad

Sam did nothing wrong

>ywn compete with your wife in Crash Bandicoot to decide who does the dishes

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And maybe even Sully in one too many drinking games in some shithole, that lucky bastard.

you can actually regain stealth in 2 + 3 but the maps were not designed for it so it's nearly impossible to use effectively

>"You hit like a girl!"
It was a different time...

>le 2 is teh best meme
what makes 2 so great
uncharted literally gets better with every game

The 4th game had major development problems and had to be band-aided by Druckmann and Straley into a working patchwork. Hennig left the studio to work on that EA Star Wars Uncharted (Project Ragtag) game developed by Visceral. Yeah.

wrong trailer
youtube.com/watch?v=6Dlguo02TJM

Pacing, setpieces, characters, environments and a simple story without real flaws, the soundtrack and all the quips make it the best Indiana Jones movie game. 1 is the worst, 2 is the best, 3 and 4 have its problems.

2 is the most rounded and polished. 3 I encountered more bugs in and Yemen drags but everything else feels like an improvement over 2, especially the combat which is much less static than in the first two games.

ehh
all subjective really
i just played thru all of them like a month or 2 ago, and the second one has some kino moments, but nothing can top the cargo plane sequence in 3.
Lazarevic would be the best final boss tho had it not been for Rafe

>2 is the most rounded and polished
that would be 4
Yemen drags for sure tho and the combat in 3 is the best in the series
i dont understand how they can go back go a simpler combat system in 4

Have yet to play 4, plan on getting round to it soon. My expectations are very high after 3.

Damn Nate has broad shoulders. Imagine what being hugged by him would feel like haha

4 is fucking great
like i said earlier, Uncharted gets better with every game.
if you were and you thought 2 was polished, just fuckin wait.

4 is probably one of the best looking vidya ever too

I had no idea these games were rated T for Teen.

4 would be a much better game if it used all the climbing mechanics that you get to use only at the end of the game right from the start or very soon into the opening. For example the game introduces the pick very late into the game and then does fuckall with it until the very end which arguably has the best climbing parts of any of the games.

The plane setpiece is amazing but the plot holes and inconsistencies make it a worse game I think. 2 has the high points of the plane setpiece while consistently having good "small" moments. 4 tries too hard while 2 is on point to be this fun ride so Lazarevic, while having fewer dimensions and just being this evil dude, fits much more into the game than Rafe and is ironically a better character because of it.

>Lazarevic is ironically a better character than Rafe
i disagree

what inconsistencies are you refering to in 3?
the only thing i can think off that comes close to the plane sequence is the either of the train sequences in 2 or maybe after you kill Lazarevic.

You guys looking forward to playing his daughter in a sequel?

No because there's no way the Drake parents would allow their daughter to do that.

Only if Nate takes Sully's role
Maybe when she's an adult they wouldn't mind

Nate defiantly seems like he'd be the hypocritical overprotective dad.

Nah, it just grazed by a centimeter :)

Did you even play the 4th game? It's all about how Nate shouldn't be going on his adventures anymore because of how dangerous they are

Swap it for any jrpg character

Yes I played it. I guess that does make more sense, but I wouldn't be shocked if she still went on her own adventures

Yeah the supernatural elements were great for mixing up the gameplay and introducing enemies that weren't just "guy with gun"

The helicopter in 2 is technically more impressive than the plane setpiece and is arguably as amazing artistically. 3 has plot holes with Talbot who can obviously teleport and has rapid cellular regeneration. The pirate section was for the most part just a filler (it had some cool moments though) and the horse setpiece was just so bad it threw me out of the game (maybe because I used to ride horses). It isn't a bad game by any stretch but it's definitely a worse game than 2, or in another words it's not as amazing journey overall in my opinion. The smaller moments in 2 are also still on top of any Uncharted game.

Actually, in uncharted 4, there’s an option to just play the shootouts so

The pirate section is literally the best part of the first three games, shame it's basically glitch city.

CoD mc's

I've always been down with the idea of Nate dying but leaving innocent offspring wondering what they should do. Inevitably becoming a thief and struggling with the reality of it

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*Blocks your absolute path*

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I never really liked them, they just came in there to make it more Indiana Jones and drag the plot out more. Three did at least something somewhat interesting with it besides just giving you two more things to shoot at.
Four is more of a character exploration.. and doing exploration in general because they had the tech for it. Having a bunch of supernatural enemies thrown into that would have just made it boring. However, I feel like certain aspects in four really dragged on too much. Like the exploding skeletons.

Red Dead Redemption 1 did this and it was kino.

>mfw spent a decent amount of the game on Photo Mode.

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Ehhhh I never liked the supernatural stuff desu
1 had what was basically a bioweapon
2 had supernatural shit with the sap of life and yeti creatures
3 had drug hallucinations and terrible terrible writing along with crypto supernatural stuff that is never explained (Talbot fucking disappearing through walls is retarded)
Making so the final game is grounded and based mostly around the characters and finally filling in more of Drakes backstory after the cockteasing in 3 was probably the best move for a """"""""""final""""""" game

I should really go back to this game just to spend some time in photo mode

or the part where the pirates "Have Sully" and they have a fake prisoner tied up in a ship miles away from where Drake was supposed to be killed.

How bad was Uncharted 4? I've heard Nathan got his ass kicked by a negress and you cant do anything about it. What an inglorious ending.

I enjoyed TLL far more than I thought I would. I think I might have liked it more than both 3 and 4.

I liked it a lot
Same here, I like how it's a short but sweet adventure. I feel like it's the most replayable for me due to that

in series: yes
In PlayStation brand: no, kratos do to being the protagonist of the power fantasy of his games, least in the first trilogy, the new one less so
Console wise: no Master Chief cannon beats his games as the lucky spartan ever lived and he goes through a galactic shit ton of crazy shit and still wins.