OH NO NO NO

user each pokemon has three animations.
Idle
Hurt
Attack

Even if they used a more signature move they wouldn't have more than some hip thrust.

>butt hole

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>that extra bandage
Fuck off furfag

please kick me more

let's keep this between us

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HAHAHAHAHAH HOLY SHIT

The funniest thing about this thread is knowing that Pokemon lives forever in the head of every Digimon fan, rent-free

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>he'd rather it was completely naked
who's the real furfag here?

Someone post Incineroar's epic T-pose

Cyber Sleuth also has better 'generic' attacks too though.

...is this some shitty Unity game?

I want Scorbunny feet on my dick

>game with 240 digimon
>compared with a game with >821 pokemon

Gee, i wonder which will be harder to make specific, special animations for.

Four
Idle
Hurt
Physical attack
Special attack

Which is the same amount as CS. Idle, hurt, attack, signature.

Pokemon doesn't have special animations for signature moves.
Perhaps new particles or something, but the attack animation is the same.

>821 pokemon
Are you actually retarded?

There's actually 3 attack animations for each, one for physical, one for special, and one for status attacks.
There are a few signature moves that have special animations but you can count them on one hand.

>Pokemon doesn't have special animations for signature moves.
Not in this game it doesn't but remember unique Z-moves did exist.

>people will defend this

>play cyber slut
>skip animation
It's fucking grindy man.

The retarded one here is you.

Don't tell him, he doesn't need to suffer that much.

Not to defend GF on this matter but CS also has a hell of a lot more recolors.

user about these 821 Pokémon's...

Pokemon also have Amie/Refresh animations

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ALL RIGHT THEN

HOW ABOUT WE COMPARE LGPE (153 pokemons) WITH CYBER SLUT (240 digimons)

Imagine being the person who made this WebM thinking that Digimon game looks good.

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youtu.be/cn-A0uT-ngk
Sorry, I never played cyber sleuth(I've been meaning to), let alone any digimon game, but I figured I'd look a bit more into it. The video is long, but there's some battles in the first few minutes. I think I dig digimon more.

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I put a "less than" symbol for a fucking reason

>niche game vs franchise the size of Star Wars and Harry Potter combined

50 billion dollars franchise.

i get wingull only glides but you can't have them stopping and starting like every other pokemon
program them to circle at the very fucking least

NINTENDO
FIRE THESE GUYS

>he doesn't know

Hacker's Memory actually has over 320 Digimen and the new Pokemon games will probably also have between 300 - 500 Porkomin.
Also Digimon has like 1/100th of Pokemon's budget, if even that much.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's an animal, but not a mammal. If pokemon had external genitalia, everyone wouldn't be confused about where their eggs come from.

Also post animations from Colo/Battle Revolutions, not just always this.

>implying

And no, shills like the serebiifuck aren't people

and full national dex used to exist
and battle frontier
and god knows what else

shame it's irrelevant now

holy shit even fucking digimon world 3 has more animations lmao

>hmm no footsteps... wingulls™ gotta be
>*shakes joycons for bike to appear*
>lets go sobble
(sobble doesnt appear in overview despite walking running and clinging onto you when riding models are in game data)
>goes forward in narrow corridor that takes 5 seconds to finish
>lily 2.0 appears
>OY IS THAT YOU DAFT CUNT DO YOU KNOW HOW TO CATCH POKAYMANZ LET ME TEACH YOU HOW TO CATCH POKAMANS
>wild charmander appears
>OI LOOK THIS IS RARE POKEMON FROM MYSTICAL KANTO REGION LETS CATCH EM
>cinematic pokeball throw at 10 fps
>OI HERE YOU GO FUCKFACE THE WHOLE DR OAK LAB CHIPPED IN
>5 pokeballs recieved
>charmander joins your party
>AAHHHHHH

>821 pokemon
FUNNY THING ABOUT THAT user.

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>only glides
??????

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the basic moves in cyber sleuth are animated better too.

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It doesn't matter.

*flinches a little bit but doesnt actually look hurt*

Being anti pokemon aside it's pretty much the same shit animation wise. I mean, special moves outside of signatures barely have any animation and it's just the particle effect for what element over the enemy if I remember right.

Neither game should be supported if this is the best they can do.
But I love me some monster tamers so I'll definitely pick up a new CS if they make one.

Battle entrance, special attack, faint, walking, running, sleeping, happy, sad, angry, eating, rejecting, high five...

Oh my god I'm dead.

plenty of us are fans of both series, so it's less "rent free" and more "why can't they both be good at the same time?"

I hope you're not posting this to make it look bad, because that battle animation is fucking kino.
I wish Kabutops still drop kicked people with lasers

What's wrong with buttholes? They're great.

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what the fuck

desu Cyber Sleuth was a Vita game which got ported to PS4 so it can be excused

It also has more recolours, less animations per creature and fewer locations. Hackers Memory itself is also over 90% reused content from the first Cyber Sleuth

kek

The only thing I'm seeing here is critic reviews inflating pokemon scores while shitting on digimon

>not >signature AAHHHHHH recycled from the last fifty games

uhh, nope. they are all literally the same on the respective attribute

hacker's memory has 341 playable digimon, which is more than any regional dex except for xy and usum. the graphics and animations are still of vastly higher quality than nu-pokemon.
pokemon games are never going to have 800+ playable mons again because of game freak's policy change. masuda said he cut pokemon out of the games for "higher quality animations" but it's the same old shit as always.

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>desu Cyber Sleuth was a Vita game which got ported to PS4
And Pokemon is using 3DS models ported to the Switch. Using your logic Pokemon should be given the benefit of the doubt too.

But that's the "more than" symbol retard.

>walking, running
You made me remember every pokemon has a running/walking aniamtion that are never used in the game.

Fuck GF, man.

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Pokemon is the biggest franchise in the entire fucking world. Anything Pokemon related sells gangbusters.

It has no excuse to be low quality.

Not him, but no. Cyber sleuth was a port. S&S are their own standalone games, game freak is just hacks who cant be fucked to make better models so they recycle the assets.

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>hacker's memory has 341 playable digimon
Out of 1300.

Well the low budget does come in at some parts...

So keep hearing not just a 3DS upres. So I tested that theory out. Because we have working 3DS emulator that can do just that. so I put Ultra Moon at 2x here's my results. enjoy.

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No, not really.

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It's not like they don't use them out of lazyness though, infact Habu said he'll give us a game with every single Digimon once it becomes a possibility.

Except Hackers Memory is literally one giant reuse of assets.

No game like this can survive without reusing assets. Pokemon especially since it is the one that least uses recolours AND has the largest Dex.

>Cyber sleuth was a port. S&S are their own standalone games
Yes and that doesn't change the fact that SS are still using 3DS assets. Regardless of what you want to believe neither has an excuse for being low quality, especially not Digimon which frequently has less Digimon than Pokemon in each game.

You say that like GF hasn't been reusing models since Colosseum.

Yes, it does

>It also has more recolours
pokemon is loaded with recolors too, like all monster-collecting series. the cyber sleuth games still put effort into differentiating them, such as how coredramon green has different animations than coredramon blue.
>Hackers Memory itself is also over 90% reused content from the first Cyber Sleuth
this is like bitching that b2w2 reused content from bw. hacker's memory is a midquel that takes place during the events of cyber sleuth, of course there's going to be locations that appear again.

>pokemon is loaded with recolors too
>like 11 mons out of 800+ is "loaded"

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>pokemon is loaded with recolors too, like all monster-collecting series
Not really, at best there's like 5 maybe 6 if you stretch it not counting color change forms.
On that note there are a lot of form changes with their own models as well making that 800 more in the realm of 900.

the same is going to apply to all pokemon games from here on out. at least the cyber sleuth games make up for it in other ways.

They haven't, The models in Colosseum and the ones currently being used are different. These new ones were first shown in the Pokedex 3D.

>at least the cyber sleuth games make up for it in other ways.
By having animations that are just as bad as well as reused out the ass by like 30 different recolors?

There are more Pokemon with alternate forms that have their own models an animations than there are things that could even be considered recolours.

digimon has the excuse of budget constraints and still managed to not only add but fully animate signature moves for 341 mons
what the fuck is game freaks excuse?

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>especially not Digimon
user, Digimon is not as big a franchise as you believe.

Wait so if GF does have most pokemons with HQ models already done why are they cutting corners all voer the place.

You say that like any dev does shit out of ‘laziness’. They don’t do it because the workload would be absurd. Same for Pokemon moving forward

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With pokemon money, you could hire enough people to do it.

Its bamco's second biggest besides Tamagotchi

>this is pretty cute
>wait why is there a bandage on his crouch
>oh

they can't port fast enough because their programmers are literal actual fucking retards

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I thought bandais biggest was Gundam?

user, they can hire more people if it's too much work, they are literally the biggest franchise in the entire world.

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You incels are genuinely pathetic
>hurr i dont like animation because a woman worked on it durr nintendo should burn for this

>Hey, guys. Scorbunny hopped off the ground for half a second before it used Double Kick. Game Freak is putting a lot of care into the animations.

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did your favorite get in?
twitter.com/kyoShibya/status/1140472891869237249?s=20

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That's still doesn't even come close to the juggernaut that is Pokemon, so saying that both are bad, but especially Digimon makes you sound ridiculous.

Pictures like this should give all facts and not lie though. Why doesn't the overworld Digimon doesn't mention that the game chugs in the overworld? Why the lie in the "doesn't hold your hand" section when the game also has fucking colored text and itself being more linear than fucking SM?

where even is that in the thread you fucking mong

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doesn't change the fact that it's cute

>"less than" symbol
oh, youre just stupid. got it

>nidoran male and nidoran female
>nidorino and nidorina
>nidoking and nidoqueen
>alola forms
>pikaclones
>latios and latias
>uxie, mesprit and azelf
>pansage, pansear, and panpour
>simisage, simisear, and simipour
>the genies
>minior and minior core
then there's the rehashes that don't change color, like unown and hat pikachu.

the fuck is this retard saying

No one talked here about a woman working on it

say it with me
90

Nigger, what are you doing? Colosseum didn't have that much animations either.
>physical attack
>"ranged"/special attack
>support/buff/debuff
>idle
>hurt
>KO
Sometimes there were no animations at all, most notably Agility on many Pokemon.

It didn't.

Yeah cool but where's Gundam?

>>nidoran male and nidoran female
>>nidorino and nidorina
>>nidoking and nidoqueen
nah fuck you these pokemon all look completely different to their counterparts

I can't tell which is which but mine is Swampert

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... billion dollars and it still looks like shit.

dont forget ALL gender difference mons are different models and due to incompetency dynamax mons may very well be their own models too

Low quality b8 made by a low test boi

wow... just wow

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what animation?
there are none tranny

what's this?

spbp

Definitive list or just what we know so far?

>counting forms of the same Pokemon as "recolors"
Fucking retard. The only legitimate ones in your post are Lati@s, the pixies, monkeys and genies.

>By having animations that are just as bad
don't you have your own trainwreck of a game to worry about, masuda?

I fucking love both Digimon and Pokemon and I was trying to defend Digimon in that comment lol

way fucking higher than digimon. over 4x as much

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>HootHoot
FUCKING BASED MY SON IS FREE

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i got some bad news for you buddy

>Charmander line is the only starter line that made it in

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B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but

>Digimon
Your franchise is still shit and has been irrelevant since the fucking 90s

>His
Faggot

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Wouldn¡'t kantomons be a shoe in considering they made LGPE?

You make it sound like the other games have far more animations for the individual Pokèmon, which is wrong by the way. Also, even agility in the mainline 3d games has the Pokémon barely moving like Colo.

>imb4 s&w gets pokemon dlc

>this entire thread
Literally "its ok when nintendo does it"

one is purple, the other is blue. wow, the originality is just mindblowing.

>but fully animate signature moves for 341 mons
It's far less than that given the baby mons all have the same move under a different name with the occasional recolour.
On top of that there's the various recolors
Wargreymon
Black Wargreymon
Metal Garurumon
Black Metal Garurumon
Agumon
Black Agumon
Guardromon
Guardromon (Gold)
Greymon
Greymon (Blue)
Gold Numemon
Platinum Numemon
Rapidmon
Rapidmon (Armor)

You get the picture, they all use the same animations to that 341 much lower than you think it is. Really, I dislike GF as much as the next guy but comparing it to Digimon isn't proving digmon better.
Also that image is wrong in so many places especially since Yuuko isn't even your rival. The closest thing to a rival would probably be Arata or Jimiken and if I remember right you don't even fight them more than once.

SOUL

the recolors also have their own unique animations for their signature moves dipshit

christ

>idiots fell for the incel bait
You guys are retarded, jesus christ

Imagine playing this absolute trash in current year.

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yike

he posted it to show people that they had better animations many years ago (well, it would imply that there are some in current games)

Look at here they rejected him and his Soul

These motherfuckers put my man Bulbasaur in the goddamn slammer. Nigga's doin' a dime for shit he wasn't even a part of.

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nice, id like to see more like this. gamefreak needs to be hammered. im sick of playing a recycled low effort 20 year old pokemon game when weve been waiting for a "next gen" pokemon game for decades.

Yeah, unique. Unique meaning ctrl+v from their original.

>the entire Bulbasaur line is assblasted out of Sword and Shield

user, if this is real, I don't think I'll be getting this game.

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>say something retarded
>I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED
fuck off retard

>>nidoran male and nidoran female
>>nidorino and nidorina
>>nidoking and nidoqueen
These don't even use the same models and animations
>>alola forms
Most of them have new ones
>>pikaclones
Don't share models and animations
>>latios and latias
Different models and animations
>>uxie, mesprit and azelf
Don't use them so I'm not sure about animations but they have different models as opposed to recolors like War Greymon and Black War Greymon
>>pansage, pansear, and panpour
>>simisage, simisear, and simipour
See above they don't even have the same idle if I remember right
>>the genies
Good example for once but Therians
>>minior and minior core
That's the same Pokemon.

That's cool and all but that was removed from SwSh.

>they left in all the garbage pokemon like icecream cones and the garbage pile but removed all the cool ones
lmao. if they had gotten rid of all the trash i might have been okay with it.

Its not my favorite by a longshot but I got really lucky with a shiny female salandit in sun and moon and now I probably won't be able to use it again until the sun and moon remakes :^)

>It's far less than that given the baby mons all have the same move under a different name
hacker's memory gave those moves more unique animations. yes, they actually updated the animations between games instead of just lying about doing it.

>every starter but Charizard cut
Is it safe to say that it's the most overrated Pokemon now?

lmeow

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>hacker's memory gave those moves more unique animations.
No they didn't. They're still the same.

My nigger Noctowl got in
So I'm ok

Metal Garurumon and Black Metal Garurumon have different signature attacks in CS:HM, but I get your point, some Digimons have 2 signature moves, so it's kinda a moot point

No, because you and the other retards are basing your judgement on an incomplete list made from screenshots and trailers. How about we wait until the game fucking releases to see who's dead and who's alive. It makes no sense doing it now if you don't have a goddamn list.

Real talk, would you accept a line of console Pokemon games that only has a selection of ~300 Pokemon at once, if EVERY animation for EVERY Pokemon, both in battle and outside, had as much care and soul and attention as pic related?

Alongside this home console line would exist a traditional 2D handheld line in which all Pokemon could be caught and transferred into.

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hoopa wont even be in swsh

>The infamous first 8th gen Pokemon isn't actually in the first 8th gen game
Now that's pretty funny.
How much did this piece of shit LGPE sale again ? Is there any hope SwSh sale less than it ?

Shame no modern digimon game will ever compare to how great world 1 was. They set the bar too damn high straight out the gate.

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Yes, Pokemon sucks, but for the sake of humanity could you at least attempt to form an original sentence to convey your message?

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oh no are you telling me THE BIGGEST FRANCHISE IN THE WORLD would need to pay $1000 for some freelancers to animate things for them? THE FUCKING HORROR

>hacker's memory gave those moves more unique animations.
Stop lying you nigger. The only difference is that they changed a few colors and camera angles so mon like Black Wargreymon uses the same animations but instead of having red in the Great tornado animation it's yellow.

wrong. hacker's memory actually shows them blowing bubbles instead of just spinning in place.

nope, basic moves are as same as pokémon's but worse as the vfx animation of the attacks are the same across each attribute

It wasn't me you dipshit, you faggots are the one responding to what clearly is bait and feeding a troll for no reason

if they took 2 games to future proof with animations for all the mons then yes
>game 1 has 50% of pokemon with all new unique animations
>game 2 has the other 50% of pokemon with all new unique animations
>game 3 can just port over both and now bank is allowed again
but nah gotta make sure everything still looks worse than the nintendo sixty fucking four

literally every mon in the game has at least one unique attack and I'm sure the budget for those games are shit.

Absolutely. I will accept soulful animation and less Pokemon OR soulless animation and all Pokemon.
But what we have right now is soulless animation and less pokemon.

>care and soul and attention as pic related?
The gif doesn't show animations just straight up cancelling other animations to play instead of "flowing" from idles like in the 3DS games.. That's not "care and soul and attention".

Yes, because we'd be getting an actual fucking trade off from the cut. If we're getting one region a game, fine, but for fucks sake make that region look like it belongs on a console instead of a 3ds.

I mean sell*

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>a woman worked on it
Wrong, nobody worked on it.

Both ReDigitize and Next Order everything World was and more

>literally T poses sliding around

>basic moves are as same as pokémon's but worse
meanwhile, the gif clearly shows otherwise. are these game freak shills or just bingtendies doing the usual damage control?

>hacker's memory has 341 playable digimon, which is more than any regional dex except for xy and usum
Sword&Shield will have a higher regional dex than XY

>he actually fucking believes this

>Metal Garurumon and Black Metal Garurumon have different signature attacks in CS:HM
You do realise they still share one signature, right?

Literally different models and different physical designs.

if the Spyro remake dev team could outsource so much work to freelance modelers/animators why can't gamefreak?

>Scyther out
>Ninjask and Shedninja out out
>Heracross out
>Mother fucking Furret out

This is the shittiest Pokemon ever made.

they didn't use special animations for a good lot of them though, hell if you use gigavolt whatever on pikachu it goes through it's special attack animation twice before the move works

I dont see the problem

Most yeah but some just make me so fucking pissed.
>Digimon has massive horns or claws.
>Basic attack animation has the digimon wiggling it's tiny ass tail at the enemy.
Boot up the game and check how many times this fucking happens I DARE you

Got some proof to back up that line of bullshit you tryin to sell or are you just gonna call it chocolate?

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>no Cubone
>no Farfetch'd
Fuck.

something something pride

no it won't. you'll get around 300 pokemon just like sun/moon had. then the third version will bump it up to 400 or so. game freak is not doing more than the absolute bare minimum.

I know

The people who work on the Digimon games really like the franchise and go out of their way to make their stuff good. CyberSleuth and Hacker's Memory places more emphasis on plot, characters, and writing than big budget graphics.

I can't believe that people are comparing digimon to pokemon, everyone knows that Nintendo and Gamefreak are small indie companies that had to cut costs on things like graphics, amount of pokemon, designers, animators etc. It's not like pokemon is one of the highest grossing video game franchises like digimon is, cut them some slack.

>No ditto
God damn it.

>Mimikyu is in
>but no Chandelure or Reuniclus
Guess I'll put that $60 into Mario Maker 2 then

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They're trying to cope as hard as they can since the console pokemon game they've been waiting for is turning out to be shit.
#Don'tBringBackTheNatDex by the way.

Big companies in japan dont outsource unless they are having a hard time.

with these graphics i'd argue theyre doing less than the bare minimum at this point

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SEETHING

They don't even have the same design.

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Are you retarded? Nintendo is the biggest company out there they could create anything they want.

I'll settle for just one of them being good.

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>CyberSleuth and Hacker's Memory places more emphasis on plot, characters, and writing than big budget graphics.
Then why didn't they have a good plot and writing?
At best there's decent character designs but that's mostly for waifus like Nokia.

lol

>M-M-MUH BROS!!!!!!!!!
Dexcucks are hilariously pathetic. Funniest part of the joke is that they'll still buy the games.

>xD
fuck off

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strawpoll.me/18157766/

evey mon I wanted for my Sword team is in, fuck you!

Gamefreak is the penultimate game dev that doesnt care knows you know this and still does nothing cause their games will still sell 10mil copies minimum. Amusingly thier mainline games have been losing sales by generation. The only exception is sun/moon sold slightly more then x/y

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>Le meme man
Cope

>Soul

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>Amusingly thier mainline games have been losing sales by generation.
They've been selling consisteny in the 14-16m range since Gen 3.
>The only exception is sun/moon sold slightly more then x/y
SM sold just under XY.

Why can't you idiots get your information right? If you did people would take the dex cutting a lot more seriously.

>appears behind them just to laugh
That attack is so stupid that it's amazing.

That being said, Hoopa's signature move kind of cheats the system a bit. Its actual attack animation is nothing more than the part where it points which it does for ALL of its attacks. The part where the camera shifts to the opponent is just the attack's effect animation. That's the problem with Pokemon's attack animations. Every mon has a single canned animation it does to execute every attack, then it plays the animation for the move itself. With few exceptions for very specific signature attacks (and z-moves which are gone now), there are no unique attack animations for the pokemon itself and the flair is all coming from the move's particle effects and the two are never directly tied to one another.

it's not the models that bother me, it's the fact the game runs at 30FPS or less while still looking worse visually than Mario Odyssey.

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oh no no no

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Most of them reuse old animations or just have a simple jump/foward animation with a effect

>Souless

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>Steelix
Yes

XD

Stadium was so fucking good.

>and now bank is allowed again
You guys are aware that Bank/Home will still allow transfer, right? As in, transfer of anything in the Galar Dex can be done from Home to Sword/Shield. So if you have a Gardevoir from Gen 3 through 7, you can send it to Home, then to SS.

Cope

you know what i meant nigger

Get over it, digimon sucks and pokemon is a billion dollar franchise that can get away with this. your fake ass outrage means nothing

looks like shit

looks like shit

why do manchildren love pokemon again?

>joysticks
wot?

Those models are not just "3DS models" though, they're actually made to be reused for the next few iterations of the franchise, they're pretty high quality the textures just suck.

Go look up what Roselia's Rose buds actually look like as mesh. It's fucking bonkers.

amazon.com/dp/B07SS621LR/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_lALcDb3P73TC4

What color digivice should I get?

Pokémon fans are displeased with it

What is wrong with big name franchises and phoning it in? Fuck casuals for eating up this trash.

NINTENDO

why does this shit look like a unity rpg game I made with downloaded assets. it looks so shitty.

>twitter.com/kyoShibya/status/1140472891869237249?s=20
At Hydregion is in. The motherfucker going to take forever to evolve but fuck it, i's a powerhouse.

stop being a faggot user

delet

Once it's revealed that Rie is merely possessed by Crusadermon, the focus shifts away from solving cyber crimes to stopping Digimon's Equivalent to the Archangels from destroying the World.

The Royal Knights are all SMT Law without a Satan to judge people to being worthy, or a Mastema who understands human nature.

>Only returning starter is Charmander
>Only returning legendary is Mew
What the fuck.

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does no one at game freak have any talent???

They're being used for the overworld pokemon in Sword and Shield. Of course, you'll find apologists citing them as examples of the increased animation work for the new game, totally unaware that they've existed for years.

Why doesn't Nintendo buy Creatures/GF/PKMN company? They have the cash to do so and would hire or move new people to GF so the games could actually be good. Either that or have GF let Nintendo or monolith make one themselves

Salty because an old meme game has better graphic than a 2019 game

Underrated.

Can't wait for the next Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
At least gamefreak can't ruin this

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I have a theory that GameFreak is selecting Pokemon based on popularity than usefulness. Charmander gets in because he evolves into Charizard.

>people finally shitting on pokemon
>but only because they want to catch a million pokemon and the animations aren't good
This isn't why it was supposed to happen.

>Forgetting about Incineroar's signature in SM where he violently t-poses

>rival starter is the element weak to your starter
i havent played pokemon since saphire/ruby, wasnt it the other way arround back then?

>Inkay/Malamar is in
HOW THE FUCK WILL HE EVOLVE

They can't but Spike can.

That isn't how it works. Nintendo can't buy these companies if the people who hold the shares don't want to sell them.

there's not going to be a next pokemon mystery dungeon.

why is gamefreak so lazy?

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>catch

Nobody is talking about catching

yep

>ice cream and garbage are in
FUCKING KEK

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Remember, this is not the full list. For all we know that, they are probably going to add in all of the Kanto pokemon from LGPE since that they are both on the switch.

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What other reason is there?
The pokemon themselves are the lifeblood of this game.

Matsuda wants Pokemon games to be easy because he's afraid newer gamers don't like challenges.

Hahaha literally looks like some “NINTENDOOOO” shit. Pathetic

The absolute state of coping seethe hards seething cope from their absolute state of seethe. Unreal. Cope harder seething incel coper seethes. The seething cope is palpable in your copenseethe. Manage your cope a bit better and learn to control your seethe

Hold the Switch upside down.

>turn controller upside-down

How? PSMD was almost as good as Explorer of sky

cope

dilate

seeth

sneed

dab

kys

bruh

xd

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I kind of want to rip Scorbunny's limbs off

I should preface this by saying I don't at all support the removal of the national dex, but why do you people keep thinking these are the full lists? Why do you think the full list would exist now, months from launch? Why would we know every old pokemon in the games when we barely know any of the new pokemon? This is just based on what's been shown so far, we most likely won't have a complete list until the games are out (or leak).

why did they change it?

>No Nidos
>No Horsea line
>NO Electabuzz/Jynx/Magmar line
>Rhydon gets in tho :^)
>No fucking Slowpokeline
>No scyther again
>Gardevoir gets in AGAIN
>Corphish cucked again
>Sawk
>No Throh
You bastards
>No Drapion AGAIN
STOP IT
>Most pseudos get told to fuck off
I'm okay with this.
>Joltik in
Good
>Golisopod not in
Gay as all hell
>No Aegislash
Couldnt they at least pretend to be self aware about jokes made about their new cover legendary? Get a sense of humor GF.
>Fucking Lucario again
EVery fucking gen since 4 GF please stop

>they are probably going to add in all of the Kanto pokemon from LGPE since that they are both on the switch.
That won't give them immunity.

Pssst lad, all pokemons had those aniamtions since SUMO. Yet they still don't want to give us pokemons following us.
On top of that, given the pokedex in SnS, half of those animations will go into the trash. That's some wasted resources if I ever see some.

>but why do you people keep thinking these are the full lists?
Because everyone here wants a reason to shitpost about Pokemon and Nintendo obviously rather than acutally thinking about it.

>until the games are out (or leak).
Or if we get a demo to datamine.

pokemon after gen 3 was a mistake

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>What if Bethesda made Pokemon?

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But Gen 5 was peak.

5*
exception to 4

to make it easier I guess, in sun and moon not even the fucking elite 4 have a full team of 6 and most of the trainers don't reach 4 pokemon teams

I know, I said that in the very post you're replying to. It's only two sentences, please read both of them.

Why is Sawk in but not Throh?

>in sun and moon not even the fucking elite 4 have a full team of 6
They've never had a full team of 6. As for the other trainers you'd be lucky to see them have 2 Pokemon let alone 4.

>unique story with mature themes
Pick a screenshot that reflects your point then if it's true. That looks like garbage tier scifi JRPG schlock what's in the image.

>"less than"

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I said probably, not guarantee. I mean, how would you get a Charmander in a normal pokemon game without gifts, trading, or hacking?

>in sun and moon not even the fucking elite 4 have a full team of 6
The elite four have never had a full team of six pokemon the first time you fight them. Sun and Moon's Elite 4 was actually an improvement over Black/White and X/Y's, returning to 5 mon teams while the previous two games had 4 mon teams on the first encounter.

>That looks like garbage tier scifi JRPG schlock what's in the image.
I'd say CS is more like Tamers with Eaters playing the part of the D-reaper but it's not as entertaining.

Even the most simple attacks is more complex and animated than that shit:
i.imgur.com/9lo1LlG.mp4

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>England
>Kickboxer starter
how does this work

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I really really don't like this

whats this even mean

Double Kick again? Why is it always that move?

>Rival starts the game with the starter weak to yours
>WEAK TO YOURS

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Game two can already have 100% of the pokemon then nigger

Id say sobblet has more of a flat onion shape but yeah it’s still very circular

It reflects their status as your bitch/punching bag

I take passion over quantity any day of the week.

SM certainly did fuck the series huh.

Reminder that Double Kick has always been the sole kick move to not use the kick animation. As such it is cherrypicked every single new game to make them look bad.

nu-pokemon is the calarts of video games

cmon OP, digimon story games are a passion project by a team with a pretty limited budget, pokemon is a yearly release in the most profitable franchise in the world. It's not really fair to compare them.

Modern pokemon designs use basic shapes. This helps a lot when it comes to modeling and animating them, even at the risk of making them too alike.

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They've started having the starter pokemon know a STAB move as soon as you get them. That's probably why, your first match against them would be unwinnable otherwise. In Sun and Moon, Hau gets the Eeveelution that beats your starter later, and Gladion, a sort of sub-rival, has his Silvally use the memory of the type strong against your starter at the end of the game.

saved

Fire looks better. Grass looks worse. can't decide on water. That one in general seems to have a fucked design no matter what you do.

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So, it means nothing?

>no abra+, no blaziken, no mightyena, no jynx
You a bitch ass nigga, fuck you fuck yo game.
>no sandslash
now its personal.

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You're retarded, I'm sorry

Why do they keep redesigning Lapras over and over again, what's the problem with Lapras?

I've never played a digimon game and now I feel like shit for giving gamefreak money in the past.

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Gen 2 Lapras is hot as hell, wtf.

I'm sorry but don't expect Pokémon games to be any kinds of hard now [the last time it did was only the Zygarde fight].

Why combine gen 4 and 5?

Meant Necrozma

Don't be at least not because of how CS is depicted there because it is far from correct. SMT is the only good monster tamer.

Necrozma was only hard because it was 10 levels higher than you.

Game freak hasn't been like this in the past, they used to make good games...
but now is growing lazier because fans are gonna keep buying their games no matter what shit they do.
I hope SS doesn't sells as good as they expect.

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PS4 version got shat on for looking like a Vita game running at 1080p on a PS4, which is rightfully due in that case since it was a full price release on PS4.

Compared to 3ds where journalists gave no shits about how the game would run sub-30fps at times in combat for no fucking reason.

Man blizzard looked so much cooler in pbr

>"I LOVE CHARIZARD I LOVE KANTOOOOOOOO!"
The audience they want.

this is something I think a lot of defenders of this policy change either don't get or refuse to acknowledge. We're likely to see ~350 pokemon at most from now on, but almost 100 of that is going to be only the new guys and you can bet your sweet ass at least another 100 will pretty much never change (vast swaths of gen 1 and a few other fan/marketing favorites like the lucario line, the rest of the eeveelutions, gardevoir line etc.) so you're staring at maybe 100-150 that'll vary from year to year. I think it will legitimately be the better part of a decade before some guys get to exist again, nevermind how most of the legendaries, most of the starters, and all of the fossils are probably done for good.

bingtendies don't give a shit about this game anymore nig, LM3 and MM2 already showed that fan outrage can bring change, the only people defending the national dex are GF shills

they have charizard two fucking megas, one of which is a blue and black dragon

Pokemon is nice and all but does it have a monster which attack is called "Extreme Jihad"

m.youtube.com/watch?v=LkUrHRWCqRg

I'll take this over any other Pokemon game. Especially if they go back to the OG Pokemon Mystery dungeons, and forget Super mystery dungeon happened. I didn't like that one much.
Also bring back the normal type pokemon as choices. I want to play as Meowth, Skitty, and Munchlax again. Not be locked to the boring starters and the random Pikachu and Riolu.

F for Wormon

>bingtendies don't give a shit about this game anymore nig
I don't think you know what a bingtendie is.

Incorrect. You can turn off battle animations in Digimon but that's not the default setting. All attacks are animated and all signature moves have an animation that is unique to them. The battles have detailed backgrounds that vary depending on the setting. Story-advancing cutscenes are voice-acted. The game is stupidly long with challenging boss fights and plenty of sidequests. Best of all, you don't need to buy the game three times to see everything it has to offer. It's not a perfect game, but this low-budget Vita title easily outperforms the newest Pokémon game in many regards. Think long and hard about why you're so eager to defend a company like GameFreak. If you love Pokémon, you shouldn't tolerate the developers who are churning out these shoddy, half-assed cash-grabs. I love the Legend of Zelda series but I don't pretend that Wand of Gamelon was good.

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Would Pokemon have been better of if they stuck to 2D games?

no

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No. Most people look at the good while failing to acknowledge its limitations.

The times I do play a pokemon game, I always stick to that generation of pokemon for my party.

But it's really pathetic that nintendo/gamefreak can't publish their full list of pokemon. I swear to god if they turn it into a $5 dlc pack they are dead to me.

soul

TYPHLOSION NO!

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They kept charizard but left out bulbasaur and squirtle what the fuck? Aren't all 3 of the gen one starters in the let's go games?

user, if you wanted to prove someone wrong then maybe you should have actually tried to prove them wrong instead of writing paragraph of jargon.

They just fucked up making them ps4 exclusives

Magnamon is the reason I joined isis

>your first match against them would be unwinnable otherwise
good, it gives you a motivation to get stronger and come back for the rematch.

of course that would imply they want rivals to actually be rivals and not just some fag that sucks you off the entire game

God, pokecopefags really just cant take it, can they? OH NONONO HAHAHAHAHAHA

Have seethe.

kys

After sword and shield, what else will they cut?

Also, don't buy the game, I'm 90% sure the third version will have the national dex.

I love when japanese use english they don't understand just because it sounds cool

reminds me of that character in Sailor Moon whose attack is called "gentle uterus" or something

a strawman for nintendo fans like snoyboys is a strawman for sony fans?

TORKOAL NOOOO
I ALREADY LOST MY PET TORTOISE I CANNOT LOSE YOU TOO

God i hate nu pokemon design philosophies

>All Eevolutions are here
Fine by me.

Articuno and lilligant not being there is still annoying, but whatever.

Looks like shit.

youtube.com/watch?v=Dn5oyCQ3wUs

20 years of progress

That's also not what strawman means.
In any case they're fanboys to end all fanboys.

Eevolutions will never be cut, not even new possible ones that they will introduce

I totally forgot about the announcer. Shit really takes me back with the sfx and voices.

>Gen 3

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I was confident enough about the main (Gen1&2) ones and sylveon because of their popularity, but I wondered about glaceon and leafeon.

>All those gold and silver pokemon cut

oh fuck

At least in SM it was so you'd fight the strong one against yours in the final battle

Lucario is.

If one stage is in, all its possible evolutions will follow. Eevee is very important since was even promoted for Let's Go.

these look worse

If your brain struggles to comprehend common video game jargon like "sidequest" and "boss fight" then you shouldn't even be here. And since you're too mentally stunted to use Google, here's a typical boss fight (a "boss" is a large and often unique enemy that is stronger than most others). From about one minute into the video you can see all manner of animated buffs, signature moves and generic attack animations, totally reducing your false claims to less than nothing.
youtube.com/watch?v=flBlULx6J40#t=1m10s

>the games have gotten slower
>the ai has barely improved at all
>the world design has gotten worse
>the pokemon design has gotten worse
>the human design has gotten worse
>the story has literally been the same recycled plot with chosen one bullshit for the past 5 gens
>the animations have degraded

Really hard to defend this series.
youtube.com/watch?v=DDHclPqI-yI

Its to show off how good the animations were. Kabutops can learn mega kick and since useing its scyths to kick doesnt make sense they gave it a kicking animation

it means nupokemon are designed for making plushies out of first and foremost

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So were older Pokemon though.

Damn, Digimon looks like that?

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As opposed to having a brain that can't even comprehend the conversation? You weren't even in a conversation about bosses and sidequests, you were in one about animations and you couldn't even get that right because outside of the signatures attacks all use the same animation.
You just used everything else to pad out your post hence why it is and forever will be nothing but jargon.

game freak would have fucked up 2d sprites by now too.

I like digimon but holy shit so many of them are just human women with big titties.

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GOTTA CATCH 'EM SOME

*tips fedora*

and that...is a good thing

Don't forget Megadramon's "Genocide Attack".

>Yea Forums complains that digimon has too many women with big titties
>Yea Forums also complains that tifa's titties aren't quite as big as they used to be
the contrarianism is real.

>*slightly moves up and down on the Y axis*
Fixed

"Gotta catch a few" has a better ring to it.

Which part of "not a finished product" do you people not understand?

human digimon were a mistake
I don't mind the titties

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Eevee is important, but all of its evolutions certainly aren't. The partner Eevee in Let's Go can't even evolve. Glaceon and Leafeon require specific environments, so they'd be much easier to cut than ones that use stones or time of day.

>le Yea Forums is one person meme
Also I wish Digimon went back to being edgy abominations, humanoids are gay.
I'm partial towards titties, if they can put titties on a cyborg that's fine by me.

What the fuck?

>animated buffs, signature moves and generic attack animations
user, there's like two total animations, three if you count the regular attacks.
Signature
Skill which covers both attacks and stat up. Your video being a good example given the beemon who's name escapes me uses the same animation for Nanomachine break and Status Barrier those being an attack and status respectively
Basic attack
Some like Black Wargreymon have a signature 2 but they're a rarity among digimon.

That's it. Unless you're referring to the particle effects which is a a terrible case of grasping.

In other words you just proved him right.

How is that contrarianism?

Post an example then along with the double kick so someone can splice them together and end the webm with the net value of each franchise.

>game about fighting monsters uses human female tits when out of ideas
>remake of 20 year old jrpg makes a main character's tits smaller
>these two games that are completely different genres must somehow share fan opinions on tits
Based retard.

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the actual Sword and Shield pokemon didn't make it?

Played every pokemon game and every cs game.
I don’t agree with them cutting out pokemon is complete and absolute bullshit.
However this is mega cherry picked, pokemon has a way bigger roster than digimon (cyber sleuth has a roster of about 200 and its not even all the digimon so they make a lot of roster cuts as well), pokemon has a WAY WAY WAY bigger movepool as well. I agree digimon has far better animations but the amount of animations they have to do is also at least half what they do for pokemon. I don’t really mind pokemon having shit animations as a result but I do mind that they are cutting pokemon out.

NOBODY on Yea Forums doesn't like big titties, falseflagging shitposters be damned

>Digimon
>unique story
It's fucking boring and they force you into 10 minutes dialogue after about everything objective you accomplish. I'd rather have Pokemon's shit stories than Digimon's horribly boring ones.

>Frosslass is in
>Golurk is in
>Mimikyu is in
>Gengar is in
>Dusknoir is in
>Drifblim is in

This is the best timeline for Ghostchads. Every other type BTFO.

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>gardevoir

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I love how no one has posted any of the signature z-moves.
>hurrr game freak is so lazy because they didn't do extensive animations for over 800 Pokemon every single move.

I-IT'S JUST A DEMO GUYS!!! THEY'LL FIX ALL OF THIS BEFORE RELEASE!!! RIGHT BROS????

>is also at least half what they do for pokemon.
Half would be about 500 or so digimon.
CSHM only has about 360 with a lot of recolors and there's no separation between attack and status skills animation wise so it's way less work.

Every Digimon has a special animation, retard. Only a handful of pokemon have special z move animations.

I'm laughing but I'm dying inside

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You know the other difference between Pokemon and Digimon? Over 1000% more revenue generated just by games.

>Raichu
>but no Volcarona
It's a bittersweet feeling.

At some point I would have said that making custom animations for 800+ Pokemon would be too taxing, but obviously that's not an excuse anymore.

Anyone still defending Gamefreak after lets go pee has irreparable brain damage.

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SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

No one in this thread is defending GF you idiot.

Those digimon smt games are shit tho.

artist?

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ok, this thread has convinced me to play some of the PS4 digimon games. which ones don't suck shit?

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cope incel

I'm canceling my preorder. I'm the biggest pokeslut around; I bought Pokemon Ultra Sun (aka SM DLC) after buying both Sun and Moon and playing through them to death just to support the franchise. But this...this is just too much. I am broken.

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cybersleuth

Cyber Sleuth and its Sidestory game Hacker's Memories are more of a traditional RPG games with its own quirks, which World: next order is your monster raising tamagochi game, where your Digimons have limited lifespans and the way you raise them affects their evolution

try actually reading the thread. it's full of nintendo fanboys and game freak shills doing mental gymnastics to convince themselves that the cyber sleuth games look worse than swsh.

I wish the newer Digimon games were on PC.

>I bought Pokemon Ultra Sun (aka SM DLC) after buying both Sun and Moon and playing through them to death just to support the franchise.
This is your fucking fault. It's because retards like you kept buying these games when they kept getting more and more gimped that we've gotten to this point.

NO SCRAFTY NO BUY

Are you retarded?
They're all saying both are shit. How in your head does that mean they're defending GF?

>which ones don't suck shit?
What is "sucking shit" to you?
Because the PS4 games are pretty basic as far as JRPGs go unless you go for NO which is more like a monster raiser.

If you don't like that I'd say hold out for Survive.

>Third version
Lol

As someone who hasn't played Pokemon since GBC because I have good tastes, I once saw that bottom right blue crap comparison and thought the one on the right was the real version and the one on the left a fan parody.

just... wew lad.

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>821 pokemon

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I-I'm sorry

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the problem with digimon is all the cool shit is in Adult level. Childs are just mascots and Perfect/Ultimate are just knights or giant anime titties 95% of the time. The 5% that isn't that are pretty sick though.

Either nice bait
>OR
Kill yourself you actual retard

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user Even if they do half it'll still be more than even Hacker's Memory. I mean it'll still be shit but it'll still be more.

There's only like 200-250 hundred Digimon in the new game and I fucking guarantee not all the rookie or even champion forms have special animations.
Holy fuck are you short sighted.

is this the FINAL roster?

it's going to have 300 pokemon and you know it.

No you idiot, that's just what people gathered from the demo.

>LITERALLY bought crystal so I could have so mons to transfer to sun moon
>NO A SINGLE GODDAMN POKEMON ON MY TEAM CAN BE TRANSFERRED

I GOT FUCKING JEWED

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>NO JIGGLYPUFF
UH OH LOOKS LIKE SHE'S GONNA GET CUT FROM SMASH

Taking unique forms into account that would still be more.

>comparing model animations to attack particle effects
See

Im enjoying Digimon cybersleuth right now. Its a great game with a great story( actually im on chapter 15). But the OST is awful... I mean, only 5 songs? And when you are in the city its silent? It would be great that they focus more on the ost, and well.. an intermediate difficulty between normal and hard.

Why would you link to a post that's wrong?

It started in gen 6. Shauna would pick the weaker mon but Serena chose the better one. You'd fight Serena like a real rival but Shauna stopped appearing halfway through the story.
Gen 7's Hau chose the weaker starter and the other "rival" used the Arceus rip-off mon as his main.
Gen 8 seems to be sticking with gen 7's idea.

Jesus Christ Nintendo should just buy the series from gamefreak already and give it to Monolith.

>Meltan and Melmetal not in.
Yeah, I'm calling this list as being what's confirmed in and not what's confirmed not in. This list just doesn't make sense.

Is there any chance in hell that they'll backpedal due to the backlash and have access to every Pokemon with a national dex? I'm not buying this shit without it. Their excuse about animation is such horseshit. Hell they future proofed the models with Sun/Moon or even earlier to prevent something like this. Un-fucking-acceptable.

Wtf why is she making white supremacist sign

I hope this game will fail

I'm pretty sure pokemon has more than four times the budget of any digimon game
but do go on

LMAO user

>Is there any chance in hell that they'll backpedal due to the backlash and have access to every Pokemon with a national dex?
Eh, if we're lucky we'll get a patch given they hired someone not too long ago to do DLC.

If they backtrack you won't see it until whatever games come out after sword and shield. They won't change their minds before launch, and even if they could patch it in, there's no way they'd add something in a patch that they could save for a new game and advertise as a returning feature.

Actually read his posts, christ

S/S no
UltraSword/Shield there's like a 5% chance
Gen 9 maybe a 10% chance
after that 0% though

>Melmetal is out
???

They probably will announce that future patchs are coming with the national dex. Probably they are harssing masuda and the others to put actual effort on making this game.

WAHOO!!

no, it didn't.

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>all those Gen 1 Pokemon not in the game
Nah, I don't buy this for a second.

>assuming any Pokemon we haven't seen yet won't be in the game
This is pretty manipulative.

>no shuckle
SHIT IS FAKE FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE

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can't give mons' bridles anymore user, what if kids start doing it to their dogs and shit!

>THIS SHIT IS GOING TO BE RELEASED IN THE SAME FUCKING YEAR AS YOKAI WATCH 4, ASTRAL CHAIN, AND DRAGON QUEST 11 S

OH MY FUCKING GOD WHAT IS WITH THIS COMPANY AND ITS CASUALTY SHIT AND LAZY ASS ANIMATIONS. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS SHIT. THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS. LITERAL. YEARS. AND PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GIVING GAMEFREAK A PARDON BECAUSE "I-IT'S THEIR FIRST REAL GAME ON THE SWITCH" GO! FUCK! YOURSELF! IF THEY MADE POKEMON LGBT TO TEST THE WATERS, THEY ABSOLUTELY FUCKING FAILED. THIS BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION IS GOING DOWN THE VALVE ROUTE BECAUSE THEY REALIZE PEOPLE WILL EAT UP ANY SHIT THEY PUT OUT WITH LITTLE TO NO EFFORT.

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>This is pretty manipulative.
Duh. That's all they've been doing since the Pokecut was announced.
But the strange part is that there's so much objective flaws they could go with but they don't.

Monster Rancher 2 had better fight animations than that lol

Will user ever recover?

based retard

>chocolate donut isn't it
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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these are so good wtf

Monster rancher 2 didnt use resources on a compelling 40+ hours campaign.

Monster rancher 2 literally all it had were battle animations, just like the stadium games.

We are comparing an RPG to another, not stadium-like games, you low IQ shit lord.

why do people pretend they actually care about having all the pokemon in one game?
literally nobody even care about carnivine, volbeat or a fucking basculin

>called fucking Sword/Shield
>doesn't have the Aegislash line
What the fuck?

The best part about this is that they thought this looked good enough to show at an e3 demo. Could've used any other pokemon.

I think this is just the ones seen so far

No

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from the webm order
souless vs soul

>pokemon had sjw art policing the skin tone of a gym leader
>have fans up in arms for not having a complete national dex
>offer a mediocre game with shitty animation
is good to be a digifag

>redigitize
>horribly empty world instead of great looking and varied environments due to isometric view
>muh weeb chara design every where, especially the protag
>even less digimons than the PSX game (19 adults vs 29 adults)
>disgusting super evo+ jogress + fusion and all that garbage
not him, but no
they (and visibly, you as well) failed to understand what was so good about the first game

>journalists gave no shits about how the game would run sub-30fps at times in combat for no fucking reason
They review the game, not the hardware. Otherwise every PS4 game would be labelled a shit for not feauturing 4K at 60fps as advertised on the console (same for every Vita and 3DS game).