Can a macho "feminine" looking character exist...

Can a macho "feminine" looking character exist? Big Boss was fine and manly as fuck until GZ when they completely fucked over his looks. His mullet there just makes him ladylike.

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>venom snake
>feminine looks
"No"

My only exposure to mgs is smash bros, I thought big boss was a chick

>His mullet there just makes him ladylike.
this is just you applying contemporary standards of beauty, mullets used to be in

Not that guy, you fucking idiot. I meant the original.

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Just because all the different snakes have a legendarily beautiful ass does not mean they're feminine. Venom is rocking the murderhobo aesthetic

Cloud

That's not Venom Snake, though.

>His mullet there just makes him ladylike.
Whoa slow down there fella do you know how zoom you were going just now?

>murderhobo aesthetic
ive feel like I've seen you circulate a lot a threads saying that
also, Venom Snake isn't the guy in OP dumbass

>he didn't play mission 46
It's been close to fucking FOUR years.

They literally use the same base mesh, the only difference is the scars/haircut

Well excuse me for only seeing that other post and not checking for the horn.
Also murderhobo is a /tg/ meme that I've used for ages. I'm not the guy you're thinking of though. I realized that snake is a murderhobo when I saw him mention it and this is the first time I've said it.

The body double also has severe burns throughout his face and his whole body. It's not just the scars.

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P.S.: Hair makes a huge difference on how people see you. >Naked wears a mullet.
>Venom wears a ponytail.

You can get completely different impressions from a mullet compared to a ponytail.

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*ahem*

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Ponytail is more manly than mullet. Medic is the best Big Boss

texture =/= mesh

The fucking most badass character in the franchise, the dude that can toss metal gears with his hands and rips peoples spines out is the prettiest prettyboy on earth.

I swear, you twats sound like feminists sometimes.

Skin tones affect masculinity, soiboi. Black people always have the freshest, manliest dicks for cucking.

First off
>most badass character
That would be Solid Snake, not Warmongering Failure BiBo.
>toss metal gears
That's a gameplay feature.
>Rips peoples spines out
When the fuck did that ever happen? Seems like a thing that Cyborg Raiden would do.

Ain't you got someone to rob, nigger?

Big Boss is more of a man than Solid Snek will ever be.
Big Boss did nothing wrong.

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I'm telling the truth, dunce. Venom Snake's burns make his skin look darker, giving him an impression of masculinity that's different from Naked Snake.

Meanwhile Naked Snake looks like he's got no fucking sun whatsoever. That bitch ass is white as fuck.

Captain is better because it can be a cute girl.

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>did nothing wrong
Big Boss admits in MGS4 that everything that he did was wrong. When will you admit that he did things wrong too?

>Big Boss did nothing wrong
You are taking a Yea Forums joke made for kicks, spun off from a joke quote about Hitler, seriously. Think about that.

Das rite whitbois.
Pasty wh*toid Big Boss has to wear leather and ride a motorcycle and still aint got no bitches.
Black KANG Venom snake can wear a ponytail and still be hitting dat superpowered plant zombie hoe.

Can't be more a faggot than the Metal Gear Survive protag at least.

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>Venom Snake could have possibly been a black man before surgery.
Guys...

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The avatar selection isn't canon.
the canon Venom Snake is the one in GZ, the Artbook of V confirmed that.

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Was it just good fortune a guy with the exact bone structure as Boss was in the helicopter, or did he keep him around on purpose as backup?

Medic was the best MSF soldier they had, he probably was a better fighter than Miller and just below Big Boss.
But maybe Big Boss did planned that, since we knows he was already far from a good person even in his MSF days.

>When the fuck did that ever happen? Seems like a thing that Cyborg Raiden would do.

I'M TALKING ABOUT RAIDEN YOU FAGGOT!!!!

>she shurvive?

Venom was more a man than Big Boss. at least he wasn't a backstabbing bastard and got a girl without getting manipulated.
user he was literally using a child soldier. PW is a glorified version of Big Boss, but his action from another pov probably would make him look like an antagonist.

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Opposite. He was feminine before GZ.

I had a brainfart, I took that as
>Medic was already far from a strong person even in his MSF days.
Fucking WHOOPS. Sorry.

He always that haircut, faggot

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>Venom was more a man than Big Boss
No
>at least he wasn't a backstabbing bastard
See Metal Gear 1 where he's eager to, extremely willing to, and 100% complicit with misleading and backstabbing Solid Snake to die so that Metal Gear TX-55 can finish development while NATO stays silent, all for Big Boss' sake.
He's no better than Big Boss.
>got a girl without getting manipulated.
Who left him.

That's a different mullet though, it has larger strands on the front and a different slant on the back.
Then again that's a fucking PS2 game and I expect hardware to show evolution.

Do amerimutts really find this funny?

T.Bibo

Venom had no relation with solid, and he was just doing his job because he was forced to be big boss, you can see in the V ending that he's far from happy to be him.

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That might be a mullet, yes, but that's not the same haircut though.

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Why does GZ feel it has more of the MG soul than V when i doesn't even have any boss?
next MG should not be open world, but have a lot of missions using maps like the camp omega, or just be more linear like the old games. perhaps a mix of both options.

>Venom had no relation with solid
He knows who Solid Snake is and where he comes from. That's something.
>you can see in the V ending that he's far from happy to be him.
You're assuming a whole lot of something from a bunch of nothing. All that cutscene in that ending shows is a man making a furrowed expression while punching a hallucination in the mirror.

You're also a retard for assuming that he has a personality set in place. You're supposed to write the character, not Kojima, since after all, Venom Snake is you.

>since after all, Venom Snake is you.
He doesn't feel like my character, Venom snake just feel like a lost guy in the place of a super soldier who have a lot of combat skills.
But based on his actions, you can already see that he's a better man than the real big boss.

You're thinking of "The Boss" who was BigBoss's mentor. She was indeed a chick.
BigBoss had the original code name of "Naked Snake" and is the legendary soldier they cloned to make Solid Snake.

>no relation with solid
he knows that Solid Snake is from FOXHOUND
>he was forced to be big boss
He had the option to rebel against being Big Boss
As you can see in Metal Gear 1, he clearly didnt
>V ending that he's far from happy to be him
Thats what you think, it isn't automatically or canonically what Venom Snake is thinking.
Youre supposed to fill out the blanks since this is a game about interpretations and writing the main character your own way

It is implied in The Phantom Pain that Venom Snake himself (and his nondescript identity as a medic) serves as a deliberate player avatar, due to his original appearance being reliant on the player's decisions.
>his original appearance being reliant on the player's decisions.
>Due to the ending in "Truth: The Man Who Sold the World", it is implied that Hideo Kojima intended for the player to become Big Boss.

>Author Hitori Nojima, citing an email from Kojima, explained that the player brings the story full circle in their own way, with the role of Venom Snake making the story truly theirs, and not necessarily restricted to the fate of Big Boss in the early games. Kojima and the player creating the story together "is something traditional movies and books could not do."
Venom Snake isn't a better man than Big Boss. YOU think that you're a better man than Big Boss and you're using Venom Snake as a scapegoat to defend your morality so that you can justify Big Boss becoming a villain in MGSV when he didn't.

>you can see in the V ending that he's far from happy to be him.
Stop assuming that the ending actually means something in a game about fucking nothing. MGSV is a self contained story in which the MC is you, nothing fucking matters since you don't make an impact on the canon. Even Skullface says this. You serve Big Boss in MG1 but it doesn't change anything.

Why do I have a feeling that these posts are the work of one samefag?

>These three posts that are going against what I think coincidentally happened to be posted all at the same time!
>Therefore SAMEFAG!
Get a life.

it has way better level design, claustrophobic sections,night+rain = atmosphere, no fulton nonsense (motherbase management is a cancer), no zzz pistol abuse, no snipers, etc. Plus the objective is way more intense than anything in V really. Rescuing Paz from that claustrophobic underground basement provides a much more thrilling experience than something like killing soviet commander #1324. The lore integration with objectives/missions is way tighter than in V.
GZ is a fucking masterpiece in comparison to V. As often in the games industry, the developers probably didn't even know what made their game good, hence the resulting memefest that is V. You could go all day analyzing the (often implicit yet catastrophic) flaws of V. Shame... damn shame...

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That frown he makes in the ending could have meant anything.

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I'm still fucking mad that Skull Face never had a bossfight, or that the adult chico concept was unused by Kojima, i almost want them to make a MGSV-2 actually having that and to be about the true downfall of big boss...but it won't happen, we just will have a remake of MGS1 or 3 because no ones beside some fans knows about MG1-2...

Raiden, but his MGR self. His MGS2 self was entirely prettyboy and his appearance in MGS4 as a cyborg was cringe.

>mullet is more feminine than a ponytail
fags get OUT

MGR Raiden takes the best of both his MGS2 self and his MGS4 self.
We gotta have a MGR2 at one point, and i'm very curious about his future after the events of MGRR..
Having a MGR2 released in 2023 actually would make sense if they could do a 10 years gap between the two games, you could even play as an adult version of Raiden's son since he would be 19 in 2028, and while it may seem young, Solid Snake was 20 when he killed venom snake.

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I bought this game on sale last week.
Only other game I've played was 3 on PS2. Is there anything I need to know storywise?
I also own 4 on ps3, but never got around to playing it. Should I play it before 5?

>Thinking that ending has an actual meaning in a game about interpretations
>With the character being a blank slate with no personality except the one that you try to guess/write fof it
>While also standing in a grey area within the canon that effectively makes the game, the story and the characters themselves have no impact on MGS as a whole
>Which was only made because the fans wanted more MGS as Konami milked the cash cows despite Kojima getting tired of making Metal Gear
Let it go, my son.

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I want a new metal gear made by another director, showing his vision. Murata was supposed to do MGS4 back then but the fans cried so hard that Kojima returned not even a 2 months after the start of the dev. since he seem still at Konami, he should do his own interpretation of Metal Gear (but still respecting the past.).
i also don't say no to one or two remakes

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Not really. The game is pretty self contained in all the things that matter, and there are endless TAPES for if you want to know the relevant plot bits of prior games.

Remakes are actually a great idea, imagine MG1 and MG2 remade on the Fox Engine.

I loved the mullet of MGS3 BB but i really dislike the one he had in GZ.

>soul
>soulless

You'd smash either way unless you are a fag

mg1-2 remakes would be almost like a MGS6, because of the amount of work needed, not just heavy changes in the gameplay, but also the whole story and characters, especially for MG1.

MGS1 is the more likely game to be remade, it appeals to normies since it's the most known MG, it is unavailable on Xbox one and PS4 (and only available on the PS store on PS3). Technically all the main MG games (MG1 and MG2 included) can be playable on this gen (and so, the next gen because of retrocompatibility) with the PSnow or retrocompatibility... beside MGS1.

MG1-2 remakes could happen, but it probably would be after, if the MGS1 remake do good, we may have a MGR2 before it, and it probably would be called MGS6.

>pre hrt vs 3 months hrt

Venom=Big Boss with scizophrenia

Is it somehow not gay if it's Snake's ass? Is this like one of those "it's not gay if balls don't touch or if you keep your socks on" type of things? Does this mean that Ocelot is actually straight?

I'm a fag and I'll smash GZ Big Boss every day if I could.

Only anal is gay , but it's gay even with a woman

>mullet just looks like me with a better beard
I should really get my shit together

Post pics, Boss.

It's the eyepatch that makes him masculine. Remove it and he's just middle aged boyfu-esque material with a beard and a stache.

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Remakes are a fucking awful idea. We know what happens already. Let this poor butchered series end.

Good luck, [anons name]
- "Vic" Boss

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ok user

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>Can a macho "feminine" looking character exist?
yes but todays culture would butcher it by making it all about girl power or some oppression for other random unimportant characteristics. they would write a mary sue that is never wrong and cant fail, with constant one liners so the player never forgets "her" unimportant characteristics. they'd become a hollow shell to transmit political ideas... and not a character with agency or room for development.

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stahp

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I wasn't talking about women looking macho, I was talking about men looking both feminine and macho.
But your point is still valid, yes.