It ain't comin anytime soon bois

Prime 4 never existed.

It was a JPG shown to hold off insane investors and also lessen the hate when they announced Metroid for 3DS.

Likewise, Animal Crossing never existed. It was a JPG to placate AC fans and they knew 2019 wasn't feasible.

What does crunch have anything to do with missing a fucking art director?

I've already waited since 2008 for a new Prime, a few more years is no big deal to me.

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Protip: Ninty isn't against crunch. You bet your ass if it's a big game before release devs are working extra.

I think most Metroid fans were happy with the announcement of Returns, but this pretty much confirms Prime 4 wasn't even in the conceptual stages when they announced it.

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What makes you say that about AC?

1. Nintendo has demonstrated they will blatantly announce games without development taking place. Sakurai said they announced they were doing a new Smash a before they approached him (which confirms it wasn't even being developed, yet announced as such).

2. AC was in a similar predicament - the Isabelle release trailer for Smash Bros Ultimate. If they hadn't whipped up a JPG fast like with Metroid Prime 4, rabid insanity would have ensued.

even if you didn't like SR, the art was flawless
go look at the concept art

not the game, just the art

youtube.com/watch?v=kajhsbs_ihE

I dunno. If they have an engine to build upon they can do things fast.

ign.com/articles/2019/06/11/nintendo-comments-on-crunch-and-game-delays-a-e3-2019

>“The crunch point is an interesting one,” Nintendo of America’s president Doug Bowser told me at E3. “For us, one of our key tenets is that we bring smiles to people's faces, and we talk about that all the time. It's our vision. Or our mission, I should say. For us, that applies to our own employees. We need to make sure that our employees have good work-life balance.”

I'm hoping we at least get Metroid 5 or a Prime Trilogy remaster to tide us over.

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Where the fuck is their unannounced game?

Working part time just makes a part time game.

They literally never had an unannounced game. People have just made up shit for 5 years about it.

retro can always dust off the prime 3 engine and upgrade the renderer

It's not that, they restarted it from scratch a year after the announcement.

Retro is a development studio that hasn't had a release in 5 years. People are going to assume you were doing more than absolutely nothing.

Retro has a history of scrapping games. iirc they were working on several projects before Nintendo told them to trash all of them and start development on Metroid Prime instead. These poor fucks can never catch a break.

Not when you delay the game multiple times you braindead retard

And those games end up shit.

F, it's dead jim

At this rate I'll be in my 40s before I get to play Prime 4

Man, why does Nintendo hate Metroid so much?

They constantly leave it dead for multiple generations at a time, and then when they finally release some mediocre half-assed game, after it's been so long that the younger generation doesn't even know what metroid is, and the older generation spurns it for being trash, they sit there and wonder "lol guess nobody likes metroid :^)"

they did this to starfox and fzero as well after they shitted up those franchises with shit games
nobody wanted fzero climax or starfox command

but they keep making those pikmin and animal crossing games for little autistic retards, who even plays those games?

>Man, why does Nintendo hate Metroid so much?
If they really hated Metroid there wouldn't be a Prime 4 or they wouldn't have scrapped the first version

While it is true that Nintendo is more than willing to announce games before they're even in development, in this case Prime 4 DID exist when it was announced. It was being developed by Bandai using some weird multi-studio development style and Nintendo wasn't satisfied with how the product was developing, so they assumedly forced the project onto Retro. The fact that it's not even beyond the point where they're done hiring isn't surprising, the move to have Retro develop it instead was only announced a few months ago iirc and it's not unlikely that they made the announcement literally right after handing off the project to Retro.

why is the way Samus' body convulses so realistic
why did retro put that amount detail into a vomiting animation
why is it making me hard

We still have a title, gameplay and a release date so why harp on AC?

Boohoo it’s not a 2019 release. At least it comes out on the same month as FFVII Remake.

They don't, but they have no idea what to do with the franchise. Other M was their last effort to push the series into a new direction and we all know how that went.
Now they're too afraid to fuck up which is why we're getting remakes and sequels to outsourced spin-offs. But the team that worked on Prime 3 is long gone and that Sylux cliffhanger isn't really a good starting point for a new trilogy, especially not for an unexperienced team.
Nintendo has been creatively bankrupt for a long time, this is no surprise.

Like your miserable life

I work at retro and 99% of everything is done its just that nothing has textures and its basically crash dummy rpg. This is just the last 4 months of the job.

that's never been confirmed imbecile

Fred get back to work you slacker. I can smell you from the other side of the office.

At this point I think they're only doing this to fill some quota with their franchises. Team-ninja really fucked up with Other M, then Federation Forces happened and now Nintendo doesn't really want to touch the thing anymore.

regardless of whether or not the project was in development at bandai the rest is straight from nintendo you mouth breathing troglodyte, they DID cancel the project and hand it off to retro and its not unlikely that they made the annoucement that they restarted development right after doing that like I said

I fucking called this shit 2 years ago when all we saw was a title card. I knew they didn't have fuck-all and were just putting the title out there to dupe retards into rushing out and getting a Switch for MP4, despite it not really being in development and definitely not releasing for years, if ever.

same is true of the TES6 announcement bethesda pulled last E3 to take attention off the backlash the FO76 leaks were getting.

it makes you think of Samus orgasming

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I still find it kind of crazy how honest and open Nintendo is with themselves and their customers to straight up say "Hey, we fucked up, but we're not going to try and make a failing project work" without any corporate spin. Especially when their console is still the fresh new thing and their fans will literally buy anything they put out on it. Nintendo deserves a lot of shit at times, but that's surprisingly forward thinking to make sure they're putting out a product that won't hurt them in the long run just to get some immediate gain.

Think of the horror stories from other publishers like Bioware making bullshit vertical slices of Anthem to trick EA execs into thinking that game development was going well. The only thing I'm worried about is Metroid development killing whatever Retro's secret project is. It would be a shame if that happened againt o them because of Metroid Prime, but if they're taking time to staff up maybe that bodes well for both projects being given the attention they need.

ES6 is going full photoscanning since they are on pre-production, Starfield is probably moving into Recording and Pruning
its easy to see Starfield as one of the flagship titles for the nextgen.

therefore, we will get both in 2022 at most
plus nintendo is probably keeping an eye at Eternal

this is some next level cope

>Team-ninja really fucked up with Other M
People need to stop shifting the blame for Other M onto Team Ninja, all the atrocious writing and elements like Adam having to authorize what you can use are because of Sakurai
Gameplay wise I think Team Ninja did a decent enough job implementing what they did all things considered, if it didn't have Metroid in the title and Nintendo didn't force that retarded control scheme no one would be complaining about the gameplay

This, the combat wasn't actually that bad given the confines TN had to work with. All the biggest problems of OM, being the level design, the story, the overall gameplay design, and so on were all down to Sakamoto.

>Sakurai
oops, meant sakamoto
im retarded, please forgive me

They could have just given a generic PR spin that the game is being delayed or they could have forced the game out to flesh out the release schedule. I just think it's refreshing that they came out and said that they had to restart development and don't expect it anytime soon.

Doesn't mean the game will ultimately be good, but I appreciate how they handled restructuring the project. Being cynical is fine, but being cynical about everything is kind of sad.

I didn't really mind the gameplay. But the game betrayed Samus' character so many times it got boring, retarded at times, and just plain annoying. But yes, I agree with you. I guess it's easier to just name Team Ninja than Sakamoto.

can team cherry do a 2d metroid please? I would want that over prime 4 considering barely anyone who worked on prime 1 is still at retro

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Animated 2d art but with the aesthetic of the Samus Returns concept art.

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>missing art director
guess you missed the part where they had to restart because the project was garbage and how nintendo is pandering to reddit fags complaining about crunch saying they dont believe in crunch. this game is never coming out.

wow... it's almost like nintendo lied their ass off about metroid prime 4 to trick people into buying a switch. just like everyone with a brain has been saying for months.

SO WHAT THE FUCK HAS RETRO BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS

They're both to blame
The gameplay in Other M might not have been as bad as the rest of the game, but its still boring

>I still find it kind of crazy how honest and open Nintendo is with themselves and their customers to straight up say "Hey, we fucked up, but we're not going to try and make a failing project work" without any corporate spin.
yeah guys... based nintendo is so honest! no corporate spin here!

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Can’t you autists just wait for the game to come out? Why sorry out and scour everything you can looking for shit to be worried about?

metroidfans always getting shafted

I saw this thread on resetera earlier today

>prime 4 doesmt exist
>SMT5 doesnt exist
>Bayonetta 3 doesnt exist
>Pokemon was a half-assed 3DS port
>Octopath was a timed exclusive
>No More Heroes 3 is a timed exclusive
Anyone else regretting their purchase?

originally i wasn't gonna buy a switch until we got a release date for prime 4, but once i saw that dark samus was being added to smash ultimate i decided to buy a switch shortly after that direct aired. as it turns out, smash ultimate is fucking boring and i haven't touched my switch since last december and probably never will until prime 4 comes out, if it even does come out.
so yeah i'm regretting my purchase

Imagine being so retarded that you can't follow a simple chronological order of events.

Not a Ridley guy I take it?

Any other publisher would have killed this series outright after Prime 2 lost half it's audience for seemingly no reason at all.

I'm honestly amazed that Metroid got a second chance after Other M.

they lied their asses off through the whole thing. they showed a jpg logo of a non-existent game to trick people into buying a switch, claimed it was "well into development," then finally had to admit that they didn't have anything and brought in retro to actually start making the game for real.

I wouldn't be surprised if they spent the past 5 years doing nothing but grunt work on other games like they did with Mario Kart 3DS.

Hey remember how Samus Returns was announced? They quietly showed it off on a stream and then it came out a few months later. That sure was nice wasn't it?

what does samus returns have to do with metroid prime 4 and the nintendo switch

>. they showed a jpg logo of a non-existent game to trick people into buying a switch

Anyone who falls for that deserves it. Who buys a console for a game before its even close to release? Christ I was a hard core Pokefag ready to buy one for SS but the recent announcement will likely have me hold off on buying a switch until next year.

Retro studios twitter

I'm saying that maybe these flashy E3 announcements are actually bad for the series.

More really
It’s possible they have a lot of the core systems underway and they’re hiring an art director now because they’re closing in on the time they’d have to start actually making asset textures

Are you fucking retarded? Do you really think they developed all of AC in the last seven months? It's been in development for years if they were even CONSIDERING releasing it in 2019.

Why does everyone in this thread think this is for Prime 4? An art Director is literally one of the first positions you need to fill, it's clearly for another project. Probably Donkey Kong.

How would Prime 4 even control?
Would it be a twin stick FPS with no lock on? Or would they try to fully translate the old gameplay?

> But the team that worked on Prime 3 is long gone
Fuck off, stop spreading misinfo. Like 85% of the staff that made the Prime games is still there, only like 10-15 people left.

people shouldn't fall for it, but nintendo shouldn't be pulling scummy tactics like that to begin with either.

>so many ports
>but not the one game I want ported
It hurts to live

How is it dead? A competent dev who's proven themselves to actually give a fuck is giving a fuck. It sucks it was delayed but this is overall good news to me. I want the next Metroid Prime to be great and I trust Retro what with their superb track record. Hopefully we get a 2d game to lessen the wait from now until then.

>Their new game wasnt revealed at e3
That along with the reviews left recently for those leaving the company makes me really worry about them.

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I know it would be years off when announced. Work hadn’t even started then. And then they had to restart development, which was frustrating. And now Retro is still barely starting.
They tried to sell the Switch with this game and it worked on me. But it seems this is going to be at the end of the consoles cycle.
That or it’ll be a high profile disaster that gets Retro shut down/relegated to support work

You're actually retarded, they said they restarted development when they gave the project to retro. The game did exist up until that point and they weren't satisfied with the results

It says its for Prime 4 in the god damn ad.

>user doesn't know how to read
Oh no, it's retarded.

yeah, it's called corporate spin. notice how we've never seen any concept art or so much as a nanosecond of game play footage from the version that was supposedly being made before they "restarted."

what's figma

>The game did exist
You have any proof of that , any alpha? any concept art? Or just being plain retarded believing whatever a company says they're doing?

Figma wallet, jesus christ. Prime 3 Samus was already somewhat hefty in price when I got one, dont even wanna look at what it costs now

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>2025
Looks like we'll be getting Metroid 5 and 6 before this.

They've been looking for an art director for a while, apparently they also bled a bit of talent
No idea what they were working on between this and Tropical Freeze, but it roughed them up

what about the original art director for the trilogy or whatever? is he available?

When it was revealed they were in pre-production and nothing had happened yet. Then the development got cut into chunks and outsourced to different devs. Which went horribly and Nintendo stepped in, noticed, and shut it down. Retro swooped in with a proof of concept build and won the game.
If work had been accomplished on it prior to Retro it wasn’t anything worth seeing. And now Retro seems to be caught unprepared for actually handling this project if they are asking for the ART DIRECTOR ON TWITTER HOLY SHIT WHY ISNT ANYONE COMMENTING ON THIS
Hope that clears things up for anons

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Yeah, I blame, Team Ninja, D-Rockets, and Sakamoto. It isn't just one guy, it's all three, Sakamoto was having arguments with them all throughout the development because they didn't want to make a Metroid game but even he fucked up on the project too.

It was a win-win situation. Announce a jpeg and get a bunch of early adopters then “restart” development 2 years later and look like the good guys for doing quality control. Nintendo can do no wrong.

Don't worry, Metroid 5 will be coming next year and with how long Prime 4 is taking Metroid 6 will be out by then. I'm not even that excited for Prime 4 since the Prime series went downhill after the first game anyway.

>And now Retro seems to be caught unprepared for actually handling this project if they are asking for the ART DIRECTOR ON TWITTER HOLY SHIT WHY ISNT ANYONE COMMENTING ON THIS
This. Lost hope for this game, desu.

Between the original project and and the shitstorm now I’m deadly curious to hear stories about what it was like working on this. What the fuck happened

we haven't seen anything from retro's 4 either, are you also going to claim that game doesn't exist too? fucking retard

Yeah I wanted one but I’m probably gonna have to settle for the inevitable Nendoroid option.

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>who even plays those games
you answered your own question, user
>little autistic retards

I was trying to fucking say this earlier and thee retards keep saying the game didn't exist before Nintendo "restarted" development or that the chunk development style wasn't confirmed, I swear

Why don't they just cancel this shit, at this point? 2D Metroid seems to be in a better position.

It'd be nice if they rereleased the Other M Zero Suit Samus.

Ew no. They're mediocre at the very best.

i-is the game fucked, dudes?

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What about the other m varia.
pretty sure I'm the only one who kind of likes that suit design

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The snot yellow tint doesn't help it.

>why don’t they just cancel
They basically did. I highly doubt anything that happened in the first development stuck for Retros project.
I think there’s a nonzero chance this game gets shitcanned for real again before some other dev offers to make it.
Undoubtedly Metroid 5 releases before Prime 4. I’m a bigger Prime guy than 2D but yer right they look in much better health, which is saying A LOT.

>Nendoroid

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Honestly? Maybe.
I think it’ll take a miracle on par with the original Metroid Primes development to save this game.

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Can Nintendo can confirm that their own project got scrapped

If it still exists just show it already

You guys are aware we were told at face value that Retro Studios was just given the project right?

>Anyone else regretting their purchase?
Why would you buy a console before any games you want to play on it are actually out? Are you retarded?

yes

Not even close to what we are talking about user

Yes, actually. You're even seeing the ad in OP asking for an art director so at this point in time, yes, the game is no more than just a jpeg from 2017. Stop sucking corporate dick so much please.

Babylon 5 font?

>Metroid Prime 4 is in the works guys, we promise
>okay, you got any proof?
>WTF HOW DARE YOU QUESTION NINTENDO?!

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Desu, were are not going to know what the hell happened with the development of Prime 4 until AFTER it releases. No one here knows anything at all so it's pointless to even bother asking.

yore

I didn't think it did. Nintendo literally came up and made a dog ate my homework tier excuse. I don't think they even started until announced the "delay". The fact that the game had next to no information about it for almost 2 years was what gave it away.

That’s why I said settle

Twin stick and lock on, D pad switches beams, left bumper+dpad to switch visors instead.

it's over

>Metroid 5 before Metroid 4
Okay retard

As well you should be, it's fucking awful. It's way too slim and sleek, it lacks the weight and rough edginess of literally every other suit design. It just looks weak.

>Metroid = Metroid Prime
Okay retard

?

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Unlike Prime 4 Metroid 5 has had unimpeded development since at least 2017. It's almost certainly coming first.

when did octo expansion drop? because i'll bet good money AC development took off around then.

Okay but what if it comes in 2021 and it's really good? What's the need to have it as fast as possible?

Mid 2018 I think? Definitely not long enough to develop an entire game and show it off in September.

No.
>implying there can't be more than one art director on a game
>implying that the same art director has to carry work through from start to finish
>implying art director doesn't just make sure assets and mood align under a cohesive umbrella

They literally work with other art directors to direct art. As in, they make sure the visuals follow the same principles and aesthetic. Almost like quality control for art but with more input at the start of the process.

It's a cool name but not nearly as powerful or uncommon as you may think.

>Their new game
Scrapped probably. They're working on Prime 4 now.
Tropical Freeze port is the only thing they've managed to put out in the last 5 years

Man I love Fusion's intro and theme. So fucking eerie and evocative of the game's intended tone.
youtube.com/watch?v=VMyumjPBSBE
Can't wait for X-Fusion, even if the author is taking a decidedly more shonen approach.
youtube.com/watch?v=05pNtAVUF5E

I dunno, what they showed at e3 could easily have been a year of development with a competent team. especially if they're able to reuse the AC assets from the Wii U board game for some of it.

You're all retarded. Games don't take that long to develop. Unless things don't work out and it has to be restarted again, it should take less than 3 years to make. This isn't an open world mega game like GTA or whatever. God why is this community so ignorant about video games when this is the fuckinhg video game board.

I find it weird it's scrapped if they put it in that Reggie Goodbye picture.

Instead of being an insufferable asshole you could just enlighten us.

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>Metroid = Metroid Prime
Okay, zoomer

>Metroid Prime is Metroid
Christ when will you faggots learn

>get Fusion when it released
>was already spooked from the intro
Then you know who showing up didnt help

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Small games 1.5-2 years (for example Mario party, kirby or Mario tennis)
Medium scale games 2.5-3 years (metroid, Mario, animal crossing)
Huge games 3-5 years (botw, GTA, skyrim, etc.)
BotW 2 will reuse assets which is why they can get it done faster. The next Zelda game won't be out until 2024ish.

I remember being like 12 when I played this on my GBA, and there was that one scene where SA-X shows up in that hallway beneath those breakable blocks.

I nearly shit myself in terror. I was also a pussy.

I don't know how many times I need to teach them this, I can't say Metroid 5 or Metroid Dread without them thinking it's a fucking Prime game.

You are not ready.
youtube.com/watch?v=YO-x7j5RyGc

Oh, this makes tons of sense. Thanks user.

Let's hope Retro don't fuck it up after so long on the sidelines.

I really like the music from the opening cutscene that plays later in Sector 1. It's foreboding as hell while still being memorable.
youtube.com/watch?v=OU8-dmLuTzw

Yeah those damn investors, metroid sells so well the investors just wanted to know another was coming.

I'm really glad I didn't buy a switch for this.

Uness the project they've been working on was Banjo Kazooie/Tooie remakes.

doubt it, we would see it by now if that was the case

I know, I'm waiting for Metroid 5 instead.

Why?
It's pretty reasonable on Mandarake.

Should Retro Studios be in charge of saving Star Fox next-gen for the Nintendo Switch's follow up console?

It'd be even more reasonable if they released more.

shit fox doesn't deserve saving

Animal Crossing makes LOADS of money with Female Demographics. Women love games about nothing. They happily buy it up and the sales of Animal Crossing are similar to Splatoon so that's DAMN good.

I'd rather them make F-Zero

Well that's not very nice at all. I think a series that once sold 4 million deserves a shot. And I mean a real shot, none of this meddling by an old man like Miyamoto.

It was literally only greenlit the month before the announcement.

star fox's game type shouldn't be a priority for a talented company like retro, at best it should be a discounted eshop game (like what SF0 should have been). If you want a proper series to be revived, f-zero would be cool

A big problem with that suggestion is that no one actually gives a fuck about F-Zero's characters. Not enough to play a game about racing as them. Why do you think Sonic Racing, Crash Team Racing, and Mario Kart all sell decently? Because people love these characters and what makes the characters beloved is their actual main games with different more engaging gameplay to the point the fanbase is willing to buy a spin off about racing. F-Zero is the reverse where the "spin off" is the main attraction yet of course there's no actual attachment to any character and that includes Captain Falcon who is just Smash Guy.

>who even plays those games
animal crossing sells more than zelda, it's in the top 3 with mario and pokemon

jesus fucking christ was the bandai build this bad?

Death Stranding will come out before Metroid Prime 4.

This. Didn't the last Animal Crossing game sell above 10 million? That's great. Especially for a Low Cost type of series about simplistic looking cute chibi characters and as such cheaper to make than a Zelda game.

Who's to blame for this exactly?

Some incompetent fucks in Singapore, or arguably Nintendo for entrusting Prime 4 to them in the first place.

Game informer's editor claimed it was developed Ubisoft style and a bunch of studios fell behind and nothing felt unified which is why Nintendo scrapped it.