this fucking chad was literally a Lich King whose lived for thousands of years and ascended to become the god of Necromancy, and when we meet him hes a Hobo in a cave without shoes, a weak as fuck spellcaster who can be killed with a few lovetaps
Okay but can we just talk about how oblivion fucked up Mannimarco for a minute?
Gabriel Sanders
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Hudson Jones
> Killed Galerion the Mage and several other archmages
> Once close enough to being ruler of Cyrodill
> Becomes a fucking MOON
> Dies after like 3 wizards furies and a tap from Umbra
Jaxson Sullivan
I read a theory way way back that it's not actually the Mannimarco from Daggerfall, anything true about that?
Ayden Ross
there was a theory that i remember reading that the mannimarco you fight is his original mortal body that exists at the same time as his god form which still exists even after you kill his body. since he is the one who turns your soul gems black when you put them on those altars you can still use long after completing the mage guild quest. not to mention there is a book that refers to the "god of worms" and stuff. and the reason he has two existences is because of the warp in the west thing where in some scenarios, he became a god but in others, he didn't.
Camden Ward
Its the same guy, its always been Mannimarco, hes basically meant to be one of the big bads of the whole thing because they thought it was ending with oblivion so they had to wrap it all up, which is a shame because it meant such great villains like Mannimarco got shunted to the role of "easy sub boss"
Jackson Walker
he was meant to have become the necromancers moon, because it was noted in one book or another after he died in oblivion making black soulgems got alot fucking easier because hey theres a god of necromancers now, as for the god of worms thing im assuming thats because he was meant to be a super powered near entity, his death is what pushes him over into godhood, he was a lich after all. Not that youd be able to tell looking at the cave hobo
Anthony Ramirez
Mannimarco is just a stupid sounding name.
Mannimarco meets many narcos by and par to "Small Man" Marco.
Say that three times fast.
Nathan Myers
The idea is that since Morrowind's book about the warp in the west suggested that all of Daggerfall's endings occurred simultaneously, you might infer that the King of Worms both did and didn't become a god. So the Mannimarco that ascended to godhood became the Necromancer's Moon, while the Mannimarco that did not get the totem continued living as a lich and became what we saw in Oblivion.
That's the theory I've heard anyway, in it he is sort of the same Mannimarco but the true God of Worms Mannimarco still exists too and is separate from him.
Blake Murphy
its pretty fucking stupid yea. especially when you compare him to his ESO appearance
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Grayson Mitchell
It's a mortal avatar of him, not at full strength as hes trying to resurrect his "full" form
Jace Martinez
oh yea isnt there a plot point about how most of his power is sealed in aetherus?
Luis Walker
oblivion is the worst TES since Arena
Nicholas Howard
I'm going to play Morrowind for the first time now, is there anything I should avoid in character creation?
Cooper Cox
play a male dark elf if you want the canon experience
thats a bout it
Thomas Diaz
I'll never play as a filthy elf tho.
Evan Sanchez
If you want to use magic in any capacity you're basically obligated to use altmer or breton with either the apprentice or the atronach as their sign. Your magicka pool is tiny without any bonuses and spells cost a ton to use.
Blake Hernandez
you wont like this game very much if you dont like elves.
but to be fair the dunmer arent fags like the wood elves or high elves, they're culture is pretty based too. for example. in dark elf culture, if you have an argument with someone, and you successfully murder that person. then in a legal sense, your argument must've had more weight then theirs and you arent convicted.
Nathan Wood
>playing dark elf
>get called Outlander for the entire game
>canon experience
Jason Roberts
Having a weapon skill as a minor skill is a mistake unless you plan on paying for training later or it's short blade (you can swing daggers retardedly fast)
Jonathan Wood
>reincarnation of a chimer wargod
>divine agent of azura
>not a dark elf
the only other thing that might make sense is a male imperial/breton. since you were sent there from the imperial prison. but thats a bit of a stretch for me
Jackson Cox
I haven't been into TES lore for a while but aren't there like 3 Mannimarcos because of dragonbreak fuckery?
Dominic Jackson
why even bother having a reincarnation if he's just gonna be another faggot dunmer? Though now that I think about it all the failed incarnates were dunmer ghosts
Ayden Jackson
>i dont like dunmer so its not canon
i dont like nords, that dosent make the dragonborn a fucking khajjit in the lore either
William Wood
>not playing as a High Elf because it's the closest thing to an actual Chimer and that's what Nerevar would reincarnate as anyway
Thomas Lopez
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i mean dark elves are just chimer with different eye/skin color. the altmer are a compleatly different race.
dark elves are to chimer what high elves are the aldmer
Leo Turner
Yeah he got fucked by the Warp in the West, he lost way more then he won. That sucks for a lich who takes ages to build up power.
Jacob Diaz
pretty sure the Nerevarine is a Redguard
John Cook
A lot, but thats ok. Make the mistakes in your first character and when you get a hang of how the game works, remake your character.
Elijah Lopez
*lips smacking*
AY YO... SO IS YOU SAYIN...
WE WUZ ELVES N' SHEEIT?
Oliver Russell
Spears > everything else
Every possible major, and minor skill is associated with one of the main skills. Make sure to have at least one of each in your primary, and secondary skills. I think it's endurance that only has two possible skills with medium armor, and spear. Everything else is pretty much whatever you want. There is some min/maxing shit you need to worry about when leveling up, but it isn't too terribly important.
The lower your stamina, the worse EVERYTHING is.
Carson Stewart
alchemy breaks the game but its canon so go for it
Julian Lopez
Canon Dragonborn is Argonian maiden with HUGE titties
Carter Peterson
God oblivion is fucking disgusting to look at
Josiah Ortiz
Nah, Oblivion is gorgeous. Character models are the only bad looking things.
Nathan Sanders
>And Sotha Sil said...
nothing! you idiot!, Sotha Sil's dead, he's locked up in my basement!
Ayden Phillips
You are a dark elf that was born or lived most of his life in foreign lands. You are a fucking outlander.
Logan Anderson
To me the Mannimarco Revisted mod will always be canon.
Sebastian Martin
I really wish there was a way to make Oblivion not a shitty game, because it's such an idyllic and beautiful world. Even if it was supposed to be a jungle. I do have very fond memories of cheydinhal.
Owen Williams
reminder that oblivion royally fucked Cyrodill its meant to look more like pic related.
>It is the largest region of the continent, and most is endless jungle. Its center, the grassland of the Nibenay Valley, is enclosed by an equatorial rain forest and broken up by rivers
Henry Reed
Mannimarco met many narcos through Miami Marco
Caleb Smith
Daggerfall
Robert Wright
>Made the mistake of leveling up with non-combat skills
>Get to Kvatch and have to fight giant-ass dinosaurs and spider bitches as a squishy thief
>Finally clear the gate, the town, and the castle
>Lose all motivation to play since all the other gates are going to be the same pain in the ass
Jayden Hill
you are an outlander if you weren't born OR raised in morrowind, it's like when you are a fucking nip that grew up in the west and don't know their autistic customs
Levi Smith
There's a "killall" console command
Ryder Nelson
Use the difficulty slider, put it all the way to the left and increase it by 1 or 2 for every level you got so far.
Colton Watson
I'm not some cheating scrub, I quit like a real man
Jacob Gutierrez
you bitch like one aswell
Parker Brooks
>all the other gates are going to be the same pain in the ass
This is true even if you level up combat skills.
Owen Scott
>nobody to the lands
>but also a dark elf
>somehow strangers know you're from outside of morrowind
Jonathan Adams
How does every NPC instantly know that about you?
Anthony Perry
Native Dunmer voices sound like shit [in a good way] from breathing in volcanic ash, maybe since you're an outlander your voice doesn't sound the same
Benjamin Stewart
You've just got that look about you. It's in the way you walk.
Sebastian Torres
the shouts in skyrim get absorbed by the Ward spells because they are classified as magic
imagine a fucking ancient dragonshout being absorbed by puny magic
dont ask me how TES lore works man, it just does
Julian Fisher
that looks terrible. the oblivion was legitimately creepy simply because of the models and the engine. he is even worse if you use the necromancer staff on his corpse.
Adrian Robinson
>that looks terrible.
thats because whoever took the screenshot took it on a potato. but the textures actually look nice.
but that look is alot more fitting for a lich instead of some weird grandpa high elf in a red robe
Jayden Green
dragonshouts are magic user. there's no distinction between a dragonshout fire and destruction magic fire.
Caleb Edwards
yeah but he looks like a dingus
og mannimarco looks cool
Ian Ward
This. Oblivion is probably one of the most gorgeous games ever. Top tier music mixed with gorgeous ayelid ruins and forests.
Nicholas Hall
holy shit this actually makes alot of sense
Christopher Mitchell
modded oblivion still looks great
Dylan Russell
not when you mod it like that
looks like fucking DS2
Leo Price
>DS2
of all the games, ds2, really
Carson Bailey
bad games look bad
Jordan Hill
>they thought it was ending
that's the most retarded and blatantly false shit I've ever heard
William Garcia
That's Oblivion for you. Because Oblivion's policy of treating the players like a baby and thinking "challenging the player is bad", there's never anything remotely hard. Everthing level with you, meaning there's no hard dungeon, no high-risk, high-reward exciting discoveries. And every situation where you could be stuck, the game makes sure you have the key at hand. Remember the pillar puzzle of the Mage Guild questline? "ho no, this mysterious entrance have been closed by a protection spell since ages! Every pillars need to be touched with a different spell, like frost or fireball, to unlock the gate". "Ho, btw, before I leave, if found a chest with magic scroll in it. It's RIGHT NEXT to the pillars and contain all the spell you need." Seriously? SERIOUSLY? The old mysterious locked ruins had the key to the door lying right there for ages? Speak about a quest. It's as exciting as going through the automated doors of a Wallmart. In Morrowind, not only they would have laughed at you face and you would have had to get the spell by yourself but the key to the puzzle would also have been indeed in some book you'd have to read.
Mannimarco's the same kind of deal. "Our player are retards and we shouldn't challend them. Ever" so he is an absolute joke, but it's even worse due to Bethesda laziness and sheer incompetence where they though slapping a generic model of an elf in a vaguely reskinned robe would be enough.
I absolutely hate it.
Connor Jackson
I think the mortal/lich mannimarco is an avatar of the worm moon god like wulf and talos or akatosh and the dragonborn
>High/wood elf/orc:prove elven superiority to dunmer, avenge tritimech by screwing over the dunmer
>khahit/argonian:slave race usurping tribunal that permits their slavery and becoming hero to enslaver race.
>imperial:avatar situation, become hero of race your colonizing
>nord:destroy the false scions of shor and save the nords ancient enemies
Only breton and redguards don't make sense.
Blake Evans
>not we wuz godz n shit
Dylan Morales
just level the fuck out of acrobatics so you can cheese through the towers by jumping over ramps and guardrails to skip entire floors