What are you hoping this game will be?
Baldur's Gate 3
Not shit
improvements from Divinty origins2
why is the symbol a black power fist with flames?
Spelljammer tier cosmic shit
An rpg not an illusion of choice half asses adventure sim
they are insurgents
I don't really see how this could be a direct continuation of 2. Seeing as you reach fuck you levels of power.
I think its 100 years after BG2.
Everything points towards soulless husk with a brandname:
>executive and publisher meddling into what larian does
>forcing Larian to adapt 5E as close as possible
>forcing Larian to make it post-Bhaal-Resurrection in 5e based on the shitty Baldurs Gate novels and not the game
>Hasbro telling people that to understand the plot of the game they have play the prequel-Tie in D&D tabletop adventure
Baldurs Gate 3 is essentially a glorified D&D ad.
And as if this wasn't enough this the setting they are basing it on:
>Basically everything you saw in that Trailer is 100 years later after BG1+2
>Remember all the NPCs you liked from the earlier games? Not only are they already dead in this setting most of them never existed because Wizards/Hasbro essentially ret-conned most the stuff from the earlier 2 games
>Minsc was just a crazy hobo
>Imoen was a lesbian
>Jaheira was a cheating slut
>both were killed off in ToB
>Khalid gets cucked and dies
>Xan, Montaron and Xzar were killed in BG1
>Saemon Havarian was also just a crazy hobo
>Bodhi was a vampire tavern wench
>Yoshimo was the brother of Tamoko from BG1 and he gets eaten by CHARNAME when he turns into a Slayer.
>CHARNAMEs canonic name is Abdel Adrian and he dies shortl before BG3 happens when he suddenly explodes into Bhaal
>Bhaal is back because MUH NOSTALGIA
Make a screenshot of this, because I aint typing this shit up again.
But there you go, this is how fucking horrible based on what we know about the source material.
The flaming fist.
if you actually read/looked into for more than 15 seconds before spew your retarded shitposts out of your ass like diarrhea, you would know it isn't a direct continuation.
DivOS sucks, so I don't have any hopes for this.
They are almost certainly going to do origin strories for a few playable characters like what they did in DoS2. Predictions for how the characters will be related, ie replacing the godwoken relationship?
I'm guessing that the playable characters will all have been infected by mind flayers or whatever and if they dont deal with the threat than they will transform like the guy in the trailer. It would explain why they chose ceremorphosis as the first thing to show players about the game.
Flaming Fist which are the police officers of Baldur's Gate
You type all of this without seeing a single screenshot of gameplay and everything you said is 100% guess
Then hopefully they don't bother referencing much of that shit since its a century later.
second part of the game won't be rushed like in their previous 2 games
>>Imoen was a lesbian
>>Jaheira was a cheating slut
>>both were killed off in ToB
What the fuck is this? When this happenned?
hopes:
>not fully voiced, but rather a small amount of high quality VOs for important characters like Firkraag, Irenicus, etc.
>stories/lore behind all the weapons in the description
>not filled with le whacky unfunny characters every 10 feet, but takes itself seriously
expectations:
>literally the opposite of everything in hopes
Hopefully have nothing to do with Bhaal
I agree with you but the first few hours of Baldurs Gate 1 was 'whacky unfunny characters every 10 feet' on steroids.
turn based
Yikes
what are you on about? the same few hours where you wander candlekeep and are introduced to sarevok killing gorion, meeting your allies in the inn, and travelling to beregost?
A fun old-school online co-op game that i can play with my bros.
>>Jaheira was a cheating slut
Dude, she literally fucks you before her husband's body is even cold. Of COURSE she's a cheating slut.
I SERVE THE FLAMING FIST
>Imoen was a lesbian
INCEST BAD
FAG GOOD
More the wandering the forests and finding strange people everywhere part. Like talking ghouls and chickens. And hobo hermits. And every characters reaction when clicked on.
I like how you skipped over Xzar and Montaron, not to mention that Khalid is also one of the joke characters. You meet a minimum of 3 pure joke party members within 5 minutes of leaving the tutorial area.
>hoping this game will be?
RTWP
the trailer was some cool body horror shit until he just turned into that goofy looking mindflayer
Real-Time with Pause is shit. Give me turn-based literally any time over that shit.
Can I play as the squid headed boys in this game?
I hope it won't be, ever. First, they don't deserve this title. Second, I don't need anything with this title, it's been about 20 years already.
These guys create decent enough RPG, but that's about it. They could have just created a new corny mess of a game that would be popular and sell well (and play nice, let's be honest). The fact that they need "BALDUR'S GATE" written all over it just proves they are creatively bankrupt and can't do even that anymore. Basically, fuck them, they are welcome to proceed the Bioware/Obsidian path and degrade into nothingness.
Absolute shit take
I see
What a boring response
My first thought is "go play divinity then, faggot" but how about we get along, and its like Pillars 2 post updates? RTWP or Turn based and theres tweaks to make both work? If it is only turn based I will drop it like a hot turd
have you guys never actually played an IRL campaign? half the shit is joke characters and non-serious moments
It was made in 1999 and set the standard for CRPGs, its purpose was to emulate a campaign as a video game and it did it exceptionally well. What I'm getting is that you two expected a 100% serious game with emotionless characters
Xzar, Montaron, Khalid, Minsc were all fine. They are the epitome of your weird DnD allies with quirks of their own. Not everyone has to be a deadbeat Sir Anomen of House Delyrn or Keldorn
Came here to literally post this.
I prefer a story/tone that plays it straight. That's all I'm saying.
Not RTwP
That's why you had variety. You could've had a party of Jaheira, Branwen, Kivan, Xan and Kagain if you wanted no funny guys in your party.
I feel like turn based is more tactical but takes too long and feels less like a party and more just a series of individual actions.
Rtwp feels better for potential party based synergies but is too often chaotic and unsatisfying. I feel like it could be great if done well and iterated on.
so nothing like D&D with cool people?
I mean the world and it's tone as a whole. Not necessarily who the party members are.
Real Time without Pause
imagine
Feels worse to replay games with heavier humor and off the wall weirdness. Personal preference.
Fuck tranny's!
would be dragon age 2, so no
Haha gotta make everything political haha
>Turn based combat because RTWP is pure trash
>Better modding tools compairable to NWN to make modules and mods with
>For melee classes to have actual skills to use like in D:OS instead of every other game based on DnD where you just right click enemys to auto attack them to death
>For people at DnD to write the quests because otherwise the game will be packed full of obnoxious STRONG WOMYN characters like Malady if people at Larian write them
>Not fully voiced
>Not to have a dogshit armor system lik D:OS2 had so I can have a varied party comp without being punished
>Making it so other characters can chime in in dialog, so they can use their non combat skills like persuasion or unique responses easier
something that tries to continue the spirit of the originals not its details.
Something that does what the authors of the originals would have done if they had the chance, not a constrained conservative life support for a dead engine.
Good thing its Larian and theyve never made an unambitious game. And with this, they might just have the ressources at hand to make it work.
>ME WANT PLAY DARK SOULS 3
>HOPE ITS A FIRST PERSON LOOTER SHOOTER WITH RTS ELEMENTS
>HUGE FAN OF DARK SOULS HERE
i hope i can impregnate my sister and then kill my brother for liking race mixin
Should i skip BG1 or does it get good later on? It feels like a slog right now.
>>Better modding tools compairable to NWN to make modules and mods with
Original Sin already has this, it's just that basically nobody cares, for example check DivOS1 workshop and Nexus, it has some completely custom modules.
I'm just hoping for something similar to Pathfinder. I don't have any real expectations with how the current industry is ran.
No, it pretty much is a slog. BG2 is a huge improvement.
Larian would be SJW-lite compared to D&D people and most anyone else.
That's depressing but true. I've detached from a lot of franchises because of modern incompetence and lack of creative vision. Especially Blizzard titles.
The problem is NWNs modding tools were easy as fuck to use, OS1 and 2 has the same problem as NWN2 has, where its modding tool can do more complex shit but its a lot harder to work with so people don't really fuck with it. People are STILL releasing modules for fucking NWN1 because of that.
>I AM SILLY
Is BGs only characteristic to you RTWP? RTWP is pure shit, its so fucking bad that they put it into PoE2 this year hoping it'd make it sell.
DnD is based on TB combat, so why wouldn't the games be based on it? If the people at DnD actually wanted RTWP, Obsidian would be the ones making BG3 and if people actually liked RTWP then they wouldn't have done so poorly as a company that the only way they could have kept their doors open was to be bought by Microsoft.
U mean turn based is so bad they put it into POE2, it was RTWP in both first, as well as baldurs gate / icewind dale. All better than divinity
Has to be 100 years later so you can encounter Minsc and his new crew.
>money arguement
Anime tiddies
Did you have the constitution to make it thru that video?
Did Swen kill that man and sodomize his corpse?
what are some games with romance
How would one hybridize rtwp and turn based?
easy, just have RTWP that is already a hybrid of turn and RT
That's what happened in the novelizations. They were absolute garbage, but thankfully, they're at most partially canon and most likely the only thing to carry over from them will be CHARNAME's name. The games' version of Minsc is back and active rather than the novels' red-haired innkeeper.
... Incest is bad tho
Fucking burger
You named your PC "Raven?" Little sparrow, even for the setting that's super emo
why is there a $50 NWN bundle on GOG?
what's that about?
Its not incest you nigger
Bhaal had many physical forms
The "physical" father of Imoen and CHARNAME are different
They have different DNA, genetics etc..
they are not SIBLINGS physically
they only share a spiritual father
What if you had a system where you could only pause every ten seconds or so and during combat could issue party wide orders only in real time til pause became available again? Like FF13 style formation changes.
I'm hoping it'll at least be better than the dullest rpg of all time. Each attempt Obsidian makes to create their own universe rather than simply deconstruct a setting made by others, has been more disastrous than the last. Aside from the outdated gameplay and lifeless cities, Pillars of Eternity's only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of combat mechanics, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.
Perhaps the die was cast when Sawyer vetoed the idea of making anything at all innovative or original; he made sure the game would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable nostalgia pandering to ageing Baldur's Gate fans. Pillars of Eternity might be anti-casual(or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Divinity series in its refusal of spontaneity, fun and excitement.
>a-at least the writing was good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the narrative was terrible. As I played, I noticed that every time I engaged in dialogue with an NPC the game presented me with a Wiki-page style infodump instead of anything resembling actual human conversation.
I began marking on the back of an envelope every time this was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Sawyer's mind is so governed by obsession with pointless minutiae of the lore that he has no other style of writing.
Later I read a lavish, loving review of Pillars of Eternity by the same David Gaider. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kiddies are playing Obsidian games at 17 or 18, then when they get older they will go on to enjoy Dragon Age II." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play "Pillars of Eternity" you are, in fact, trained to shill for Bioware.
Imoen romance mod is great
I give it a 9/10
and you can even romance Jaheira at the same time
Go play BG user
BG3 needs lots of Beholders.
Ok, there is a non cheesy way to do the beholder cave in the Underdark? The only way I found out was using cloud kill and running like a bitch
why not just have rtwp?
I wish BG was easier
too much freedom
map too bag
no quest marker
what the fuck am i doing
updated my journal
zoom zoom
It's emotional incest though. Same with Jaheira who was good friends with Gorion who raised you, essentially making her your aunt.
Shield of Balduran from adventure mark
you can also summon a fire elemental and give him haste.
Speed the battles up some.
Good
Fuck off retard
No wonder western games are so cucked
who gives a shit?
in fact I wish Imoen was your full blood related sister. That would make it even better.
Based. Sawyer unapproved.
There is really no benefit to this at all user
RTwP is already garbage, why make it worse?
What's the best way to play BG 1 and 2? I heard the enhanced edition was questionable. Redpill me.
Man BG2 dual wielding is OP as shit
I'm literally wrecking shit right now with Belm 2+ and Flail of Ages
how the fuck do you play these games
magic sucks
spell sucks
mage sucks
you sucks
>who gives a shit?
I personally don't, I was refuting the point that it's not technically incest, because that'd be missing the point you retard.
Unless you have a 800*600 monitor, might as well play enhanced editions since there is no way to increase the font size or make the UI bigger for both games. Just install the mods that will remove the new characters added by Beamshit.
I AM THA LAW
Go and download the GoG version from a torrent file and then use a guide to install Baldur`s Gate Trilogy
>RTwP is already garbage
No it isn't.
Let's be honest, it will probably be as bad and unwanted as the VTMB sequel
I think if I play it while pretending its D&D Game 2020 and not Baldur's Gate 3, I'll probably like it more. BG2 is probably my favorite game and firmly entrenched in nostalgia space.
BG Tutu is terrible
You should experience BG in its purest form
What if my CHARNAME was female?
The amount of turn-based fags is sickening.
>mage sucks
nigga I 1v1'd a dragon with fucking Aerie
what are you talking about
what's the point when your spells kill your squad
Enhanced editions are the best way to play at this point. Just ignore the shit beamdog added and it's the best way to play.
You can play the originals with the trilogy mod and some QoL mods
If you are going to play EE play the 1.3 version, install the mod that removes the new NPC's and don't touch Siege of Dragonspear.
Also pirate EE.
don't be a braindead and your spells will be great
plus AoE spells suck. No need to use them
>people literally play with AI scripts to minimize effort in RTwP
topkek
How do companions carry over to the next game? Like, are the 5 companions you have when you finish first the game the only ones that'll be included in the second game?
>Jaheira was a cheating slut
based as fuck redpill me on this one
Turn based is shit unless the game is
A. Already tile movement based
B. Full JRPG separate mode between battle exploration
RTWP is the best way you can make a game like this where the combat feels connected to all your other actions. Turn based turns an adventure into a breakdown of gamemodes.
you can solo the entire game with a mage
Turn based is nice but it makes each battle take too damn long. If they have six party members that's an eternity per battle.
You start with Imoen, Jaheira, Khalid, Minsc and Dyanheir(Dead) no matter what
Not shit but given Siege of Dragonspear, it's going to be an entire campaign that'll feel like one of the optional quest chains from BG2 and the side areas will just all feel like the early mines from BG1 with poorly designed super encounters that are nearly unbeatable because BG2 dragons were "hard" and required specific foresight and planning to beat.
>magic sucks
>spell sucks
>mage sucks
HAHAHA LIKE REALLY NIGGA, JUST STOP TIME AND SHIT
From what I recall, Khalid was an abusive dick and also a womanizer (yeah), and Jaheira (useless black-haired screamer instead of a brave principled warrior) basically starts fucking Abdel immediately.
how are Larian Studios on the tranny menace scale
take the divine magicpill
turn based is fun if you actually have to think about team synergy and strategize like etrian but it's shit if it's too simple and you can't speed it up or have to wait on animations
Oh, alright. But do the companions you had in the first game remember you? I hear the faggot conjurer becomes a woman and that makes my dick hard.
OFF THE RICHTAH
This is not what I was expecting and I am massively disappointed, thanks.
>Basically everything you saw in that Trailer is 100 years later after BG1+2
>Remember all the NPCs you liked from the earlier games? Not only are they already dead in this setting
Tell me how these are bad things, you fucking idiot.
I'm sure whoever's publishing this wanted to make it a direct sequel but Larian knew that'd piss people off and they pitched something else instead.
The stuttering, low self esteemed henpecked man was a dick an a womanizer ?
Wut
I'm not saying it's bad tactically, but for something like baldur's gate having your game need a "battle mode" where everything works completely differently to when you are exploring or talking to people doesn't really fit the sort of game it is.
is there a walk through I can follow
fuck this open world DnD bullshit
Rpgs came a long way from this tabletop nonsense
I remember the first two books being full of WTF moments. I couldn't even get further than half-way through the 2nd (where we finally meet Minsc in Athkatla and he's a red-headed innkeeper for some reason). They handed the ToB novel off to a different writer, and he 'fixed' things by basically killing everyone.
Yes but aside from the ones you start with Edwin and Viconia (Dorn, Neera, and Rasaad as well if playing Enhanced) are the only other companions that you can get in both games.
Everyone who doesn't agree with this man is a zoomer of the lowest IQ rank.
>comic waifus
ah yes, the 3 people who read them will surely recognize who these literal whos are
Welp, I'm already there so the shield is a big nono, in the end or I summon elementals and make them tank, or I summon random monster and cloud kill to death, or if I know where to find some scrolls for summoning undead
As long as they give it good AI customization and make pathing free of bugs then I'm fine with rtwp. But it almost never happens that way.
Seems almost guaranteed they'll be encountered in BG3, considering the timeline.
Am I retarded to think that Nalia autism is funny?
Do you think it'll be 3D? I'm hoping it'll be something similar to Dragon Age: Origins
did you not pick up the cloak of balduran in fishmen cave? or did you take the portal straight to the underdark?
Cloak of balduran? Wasn't that item restricted to BG1?
they've been called the flaming fist since before you were born you outrage addicted zoomer
>no hexxat
wtf bros
otherwise known as the cloak of fuck you beholders, it's not even in BG1 i don't think. it's in the sahuagin area but if you took irenicus' portal straight out of spellhold you're shit out of luck, missed out on a very good item.
They have AAA budget and manpower this time. So it will probably be more than the standard isometric view I'd bet.
>Imoen was a lesbian
TELL ME MORE
Whats your argument here exactly? That ltierally no one but their fans care for shitsidian while normies are talking about Larian since OS2 and now even more with Baldurs gate?
Amn was a better city than BG
>author has his self insert immediately fuck his waifu
based
>Basketball Athkatlan Vampire
Eww.
Animated Viconica titties that bounce when calls me Ibilith
Amn was a country. Athkatla was the city
I hope you just made that up. No way they can retcon previous BG's if this is a sequel with a fucking 3 in it
call me when they added meaningful mini maps
and actual useful quest markers and journal objectives
That is some Beamdog fanfic right there
Not hoping for anything. It's likely it will be some belgian bullshit fucking useless game.
hopes
>varied attack/dodge melee animations like nwn1
>giant amount of subraces and prestige classes like nwn2 so i can autism out
don't talk shit about my bro Anoment you fucker
dont dude, youll just summon the wife poster
Reminder that 1% of the population cause 70% of total crime
The author went on to contribute to the well-received War of the Spider Queen series of novels after that. By all accounts his volume there was quite good, so I couldn't understand why his BG novels were so appalling.
a man of taste I see
Can we have a crpg with some good models and nice armors for a change?
My only hope is Edwina joining as companion and romantic option.
>halflings arent thieves
retard
Just give useful quest text to read and it's fine.
I SERVE THE FLAMING FIST
Turn based is a fucking chore if there is a lot of filler unavoidable battles
quest markers are cancer and kills off the RPG game experience
Doesn't it happen almost immediately after getting the eggs implanted?
Trailer has at least vaguely realistic armor proportion.
honestly this
can't wait for quest markers
Mines are boring in these games
Who the fuck uses scripts lol?
Arguement is that people who help games get funded liked RTWP more
Scripts are great for menial tasks. As long as the AI isn't using consumables and precious resources it's good to cut down on micromanagement.
Don't bully my chocolate waifu
Lol no. If this game sucks I'm blaming Larian. Fuck their piss easy garbage tier crpgs.
Of course they will. This is Larian we are talking about. The most casual reddit tier rpg devs.