Neverwinter nights 2

Win at everything and make the game boring forever tier
>Wizard
>Cleric
>Druid
>Sorcerer

Fun Tier
>Rogue

Hit things with a stick Tier
>Fighter
>Barbarian
>Warlock (replace stick with magic bolt)

Roleplaying in a single player game tier
>Ranger
>Bard
>Paladin

I thought this was an anime game tier
>Monk

>went bad guy dark elf
>literally slicing villager throats and shit in the first section
shit's crazy. I uninstalled though cause I ain't got time for this shit.

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>get NWN: EE

Fuck off, Beamdog.

Paladins can be pretty fucking powerful with the right builds. Paladin/Sorc/RDD/Divine Champion is stacked.

play monk

You forgot "Meta-gaiming tier"
>Google Kaze no Kama

>paladins can be pretty fucking powerful if you pick other classes
welp

>imagine resting for spells
this post was made by the warlock gang

>Having caster levels without having spells
Fucking Heretics

Literally every persistent world has switched to EE
If you want to play NWN, you have to get EE
You dumb faggot, never reply to me again.

>tfw no bishop bf

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>shit game design lets you rest everywhere anytime
Imagine not spamming lvl 9 spells. Why even live?

The base campaign is not amazing, the expansions are much better.

>All in all, it's just another brick in the wall.

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You piece of shit.
Delete this.

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Checkmate, atheists.

Just pick a fucking druid.
Get wisdom to 18, charisma to 12 and intelligence as high as possible.
Pick bear as companion.
Level to level 5, get natural spell.
Shapeshift into a bear.
Buff yourself.

Congrats, game is over

> its suppose to be one of the best games of all time
is it?
its clunky as hell, and not all that spectacular.

Base campaign is so so.
Its not bad but dont expect an amazing original story.
The expansion is an a whole different level one of the best RPG experiences among games.
I do recommend you use a extended party slots mod for the expansion and play it on higher difficulty to compensate so you can experience most of the companion stories in one play-thru.

Only Mask of the Betrayer is worth it, skin the vanilla game, if you really really want more after MotB, try Storm of Zehyr.

Do hellfire warlocks get to summon actual demons?

all arcane and some divine casters can summon demons

don't bother wizarding, trivialize the game with fighter/monk

Play a bard, yes a bard, they're pretty much a fighter with buffs and a ton of skill points but a bit weaker They're actually stronger than a unbuffed figther tough.
Play human for the feat and skill points, dip one level into fighter for armor and weapon proficiencies and another fear, grab battle caster and craft yourself a mithral full plate armor ASAP and you'll be pretty tanky.

As for feats grab power attack, cleave, curse song and toughness, this is the build I used to share on NWN2 threads:
nwn2db.com/build/?192122

So are you saying it was a bad choice when I played though it as a a Paladin15/Divine Champion10/Neverwinter Nine5?

Str rangers are legit at epic levels and the epic bard songs are pretty busted too

IIRC the auras they added to bards in NW2 were OP as fuck.

>because its suppose to be one of the best games of all time
The consensus is that NWN2 is complete shit tho. The first game is better in every way.

Shit, I remember playing this in 08.

I did that whole trial sequence but gathered every single piece of evidence and btfo'd the opposition but for some reason the game bugged out and gave me this fucked up gigantic helmet.

Bard is actually really good in both NWN1 and NWN2

>friend asks to play this
>sure
>install it
>we play one session
>never played again
>it's now been over a year since he killed himself

wild shape is bugged as fuck don't bother

F

Sorry for your loss, user.

NWN had a RP servers and better mods

Download Tales from the Lake of Sorrows campaign. It's really good and has that comfy low-key story instead of saving the world and shit.

Bard is the perfect base for a decently balanced gish type in NWN 1 when you mix in Blackguard and either Dragon Disciple, Pale Master or Shadowdancer to hit like a freight train/become fucking invincible.

I wouldn't say best games of all time but it shows interest on making it so. Lots of content, specially for the dlc, reasonably modable and you can join custom servers for online roleplaying.

The problem with the classes in these games is that you never know what you're going to find so you're never sure if you're taking something too redundant (like fighter/tanks in DA:O) or something that will lack interesting loot or sidequests.
I don't remember NWN2 very well but I think it was overall pretty balanced. Maybe read the prestige classes and whichever sounds better for you you'll alredy have a clue of what to pick.

Damn man.

Wizard is busted because 3.5 is Caster Edition.
Cleric is just as busted.
Druid is slightly less busted.

Ranger, Fighter and Rogue are trash without highly specific builds planned out in advance.

If you want to be a real baller, make a Monk for the first level, max out your Dexterity, Wisdom and Constitution, and then go Cleric for the rest of the game. The Dexterity AC and the Monk's Wisdom bonuses rapidly and disgustingly outpace actual armor.

>defending NWN2's camera
You are a shill.

I remember playing some NWN game back in the day, but I'm not sure which one or which campaign/expansions. I remember the intro of one starting in an inn room, visiting a crypt on the outskirts of town, and kobolds being important to the story, I think they were doing something with a dragon. Which NWN campaign was I playing, or am I misremembering entirely?

What editions are Neverwinter games?
Also how are EEs, they support all previous mods, modules etc?

>Druid is slightly less busted
Have been years but I'll swear Druid is more OP than Cleric due retarded wildshape implementation.

I never managed to beat original campaign in this. It is so damn boring. I always completely lost interest around the part you get that keep/castle. I loved Baldur's Gate games and first Neverwinter with its expansions, but I just can't do it.

I'm never going to be playing Mask of the Betrayer because of this which is supposedly amazing

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The UI is absolutely horrible compared to the first. What the fuck were they thinking

should I buy this game?
is there romance?
are there mods with romance?
gog.com/game/neverwinter_nights_2_complete

Just make your own class.

The first game is 3rd, the second is 3.5. The EE versions seem to work alright with most content, though I can't speak for everything.

I'm like 90% sure that that's the Shadows of Undrentine expansion for the first game. Was the town covered in snow?

In which game? Because Druid can be super fucking cheesy in NWN1 if you do Shadowdancer or Pale Master shenanagins, but I feel like it's less overtly busted compared to the Cleric.

too bad the game doesn't let you do any of the broken PnP caster shit

I believe you're right, the town was covered in snow. IIRC another campaign of the same game involved being in a large city and going to a couple districts at the beginning of the game. The plot centered around some statues I think, maybe it was collecting relics to open something.

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The EE of NWN seems to be in an actually pretty good place. Most of the big modules worked out of the box or were updated, and the PRC was made to work with it properly, Some of the modules that were modified to work properly with the PRC are EE only because of the toolset saving them that way, however.

He is right, you're talking about NWN1:SoU

>shill
yeah he's being paid by atari to promote their 13 year old game retard

Isn't there a "Random Name" button for indecisive people?

>In which game?
Both. Again, the last time I played was like 10 or 12 years ago, but I'll swear Druid could get ridiculously high AC and saves with enough feats and shit, making it way better than the TT version.

NWN1 was such boss shit for fucking real.
I remember my mom buying me some user-made campaigns for $1 or $2 each during christmas time. Some of them ended up being really cool.
That was the cool thing about that game. If you ever got bored you could dive into a new world.

I ended up getting it because the one on GOG had massive framerate drops that made the game unplayable. Don't know why, but the EE doesn't, and the stuff I liked still works for it, so I'm pretty okay with it.

t.retard

>plays the whole game in drive mode, not even realizing their are multiple camera modes
why even post?

OP here still haven't decided how are war priestes?

My NWN2 experience is actually super limited, which is why I asked.

But yeah, in NWN1 you could make a Druid/Bard/Pale Master and get AC at nearly 100 or just below, absurd HP, Crit Immunity, and Epic Warding.. which worked when shifted because Bioware are fucking stupid.
And because Dragon Shape had absurd strength, your unarmed attacks did decent damage, and you still had your divine spells to fall back on.

Cleric had Blade Barrier, Ice Storm, and other domain specific things. So I guess I just see Cleric as being more versatile than strictly better.

is there romance in NWN1?

Yeah that's kind of a thing. There's legitimate reason for gripe over the BG EEs because those can still be gotten running pretty well with a bit of work, but NWN is a pain in the ass to make work on modern systems.

What are the differences between complete, platinum, and enhanced? Is there a widely agreed upon best version?

Original NWN2 campaign is not too bad. Far from the best, but has some nice elements to it and some nice events. MOTB is way better, but starting that on it's own feels weird, you are literally starting from level 20 in a DnD game, you've eliminated most of the natural progression.

faggot always gets a few chuckles out of me during dialogs

From what I remember there is with Aribeth and the bard companion. It's not a particularly major part of the game though like it is in Baldur's Gate 2 or whatever.

Even more bizarrely Aribeth is also a romance option in one of the expansions which canonically features a completely different person to the NWN1 vanilla protag.

Hey, I'd also take Cleric any day of the week, fuck hugging trees. Also heavy armor is sexy. Also the game was easy enough to beat it avoiding min-maxing, so I'd rather play fun classes/builds.

not ideal, but cool
how about in 2?

IIRC Diamond Edition is the most complete version of the original NWN release. Despite the grousing and bitching about Beamdog, the EE is fine for NWN, and more likely to actually run decently on modern systems. Try Diamond, then EE if Diamond doesn't work properly or runs like shit.

>Aribeth is also a romance option in one of the expansions which canonically features a completely different person to the NWN1 vanilla protag
trustnobodynotevenyourself.bmp

2 has it but fairly railroaded if I remember. You can have a romance with the elf druid in vanilla and another character in the expansion. I think there's also one option for female PCs. You cannot romance Neeshka in vanilla, one of the greatest injustices of our times.

You'll be mainly playing those games for user made contents btw

>any game where I don't get to fuck hot bitches isn't worth my time

I didn't say that

>Sure I buy this
Sure. It's a nice enough game, though the expansions are considerably better than the base game.
>Is there romance
Yes.
>Are there mods with romance
Yes. In fact, some of the mods restore romances that were supposed to be in the game, but ended up getting cut. Useful if you don't want to marry the creepy elf druid.

I hear Minsc is in one of the Neverwinter games, true?

How come there aren't any lewd modules for NWN2? You'd think that lady who made ADWR inspired more people to make such content

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He shows up in the Neverwinter MMO, but I don't think he's in Neverwinter Nights 1 or 2.

People moved from mods/modules/used made content to develop their own shit and make some bank. Then they moved from that to phone games or patreon scams.

NWN2 was a better game than NWN1, but it was never as good for modding.

yes, and?

based

have sex

that's is the goal, yes, anything else?

big cringe
8/10 yikes
oof ^2

incel

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Happened to me too user, it's been 8 years.
It doesn't get any easier

Only issue I had with the camera was it constantly snapping around every time I stopped moving. Other than that worked well enough.

Okku, Khelgar, Sand and Neeshka are the best companions, with honourable mentions to Ammon Jerro and Kaelyn the Dove. Fight me.

I played it on release and every other quest was bugged, it was awful having to revert to a save 3 hours before to try to fix it

Why? You're largely correct. Though I'd decline to offer Ammon Jerro any honors, given that pretty much everything bad that happens in the game is his own fault for being an arrogant, paranoid jackass. I do like that you can point that out to him, though.

Well, most busted shit you can do in tabletop D&D tends to include making really twisted and convoluted readings of certain rules, the sort of thing a video game can't really be expected to account for. Like, by straight RAW(Rules as Written) you could drown someone back to life because of the way drowning rules work with HP, but the game probably won't be programmed for that interpretation.

Others involve DMs allowing you to do it, regardless of the rules, which again a computer game can't reasonably be expected to accommodate. Pun-Pun is one of the more infamous examples of this. Sure everything it does is technically valid by the game's rules, but try it in an actual tabletop game and see how that goes.

The elf druid was incredibly disappointing. Why the only romance option is a some creepy druid stalker that explicitly tells you she's been watching you your entire life I have no idea. Even my good characters probably would have banged Neeshka over her given the chance.

Ammon Jerro had a fighting chance against the King of Shadows until the party wrecked his base and released all the demons and devils from his service.

The game wasn't that bad.

She did seem a lot more likable. The druid was always being a party pooper whenever I just wanted to fight some bad guys with Khelgar.

Only thing I hjated about Khelgar is that his story arc is about trying to be a better person and less a judgemental racist jackass that actually cares about his people instead of just giving his clan name lip service.

Except actually trying to get him to do this stuff just makes him mad at you, and his growth is completely dependant on hitting the right part of the plot. But that's more a failing of the influence points pre-MotB though.

>I do like that you can point that out to him, though.
Case in point. It's wonderful you can do this and I like that Ammon Jerro has a pretty believable reaction to it. The problem is he's the ONLY person in the party you can do anything like this to. Doing anything to the others except having your lips firmly lodged up their ass makes them hate you, so by the time you reach the point where you can call Jerro out, you've been trained to just blindly dicksuck your party members.

Ammon DID manage to kick the Shadow King's ass once, so as much as his plan was flawed, he wasn't totally talking out his ass.
youtube.com/watch?v=itBczNhHM3Y

Aside from Xaltar's cosmetic mods, what else is must-have for nwn2?

>The tutorial
You mean the Prologue? Because the Prologue is awesome.