What Cyberpunk 2077 was supposed to be:

What Cyberpunk 2077 was supposed to be:

>a fully open world rpg with both third and first person cameras you can toggle
>combat system a mix of ninja gaiden/dmc/metal gear rising for melee and max payne/unreal tournament for gunplay
>character customization on par with Black Desert or even better, with hundreds of tattoos and hairstyles
>ability to dye clothing
>fully customizable cars and weapons like saints row
>at least 7 classes with their own unique stories that affect the world around you
>a massive city that dwarfs any other open world game in size
>being able to enter TONS of buildings unlike GTA or Saints Row
>soundtrack is neowave and stuff like perturbator, carpenter brut, dredd kick/rabbit, etc
>fully interactive sex scenes where the player controls it all

Instead what we're gonna get is Far Cry but John Wick won't stfu about how you need to "take it to the man"

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wow they ruined it!

thanks a lot sjws, but at least we get tranny shit

>third and first person
stopped reading right there

It works in Skyrim.

what cyberpunk was supposed to be:
>proper open world Deus Ex with no third person bullshit

still on track to become exactly that. third person is only during driving and in cutscenes which I don't mind. my only worry is that you're forced into the main story-line too much, or the opposite problem, that once you've completed certain main quests certain side quests can't be accessed any more.

based on the old CGI trailer I had built up the hope that you could enlist as an anti-psychotic cop who hunts down rogue cyborgs like the crazy bitch with the mantis arms. but they have never mentioned that kind of thing since and it's unrealistic to expect different career paths that are entirely optional. that'd be like making several games in one, in terms of the resources. all the options would suffer in quality as a result. jack of all trades sucks dick in every one.

P.S. OP is literally retarded
>combat system a mix of ninja gaiden/dmc/metal gear rising for melee
>in a FPS/TPS

It works like fucking shit.

what a terrible fanfic you've come up with

Third person is the best for melee combat, and shooting works great in third person too. Besides no harm in letting you switch, gta and saints row does, so why not this?

Literally gonna be a barebones open-world FPS game. So much for having a true-to-form traditional RPG, but nah, who cares about choosing a backstory for your character or customising the apartment, what's mroe important is you appease tranny SJW freaks

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>supposed to be
According to who?

Common fucking sense? Years ago on both cdpr official forums for the game and Yea Forums tons of people theorized what the game would be like, and that was merely a fraction of it. It was supposed to be THE cyberpunk game. Basically like living IN Blade Runner or something. Like a cyberpunk life sim. Not a fucking cod style fps with a story forced on you.

A better comparison would be Fallout 4, where shooting sucks in both views because they had to make compromises to allow both views.

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>we didn't want any features anyways, just give us a watered down gtav
>t. cdpr shill

those two make terrible first person games.
the main problem with the combination of things I greentexted though is that the games listed are not TPS, as in your attacks go "forward" and you turn the camera to control where you attack. your left analog stick turns the character in any direction and attacks go where the character faces rather than the camera. the control methods are very different and wouldn't mix well.

>anyone with common sense
>>fully interactive sex scenes where the player controls it all
just how fucking stupid are you?

Just because you imagined it that way in your head doesn't mean it was supposed to have all that

Then they should have just made it third person then.

yeah, they should have made a metal gear raiden sequel instead of the open world SHOOTER they were planning, makes perfect sense.

When was that stated

This was supposed to be an adult game, with drug usage and sex. What did YOU expect, some tame shit?

Cyberpunk was never a shooter though. The tabletop had TONS of melee weapons for melee combat, an entire system for melee combat, as well as unarmed martial arts shit. Name a shooter that has all of those things and well done, not just some shit slapped on.

The developers never announced any of that shit, you just made up your own unrealistic ideas based on a teaser.

This is the same industry that flipped out over GTA SA hot coffee with shitty PS2 graphics and clothed sex

fully interactive sex scenes are a one way ticket to an AO rating faggot. It will never happen in anything outside of dedicated porn games.

Dark Messiah. it's a shooter if you play a mage, else it's mostly melee.

And? This is based CDPR, why would they care?

But shooting up drugs is ok?

youtube.com/watch?v=7RtMaHawibs

Yeah.

Because the trannies won't buy their game.

>Have ridiculous expectations not possible on current hardware unless you want Stone Age graphics
>Get disappointed when a game released in current year has current year capabilities
>Call the company a bunch of hacks over things they never actually said
Kill yourselves. All of you. You behave like children, constantly searching for something to be mad about, so you can whine and complain and bitch and moan. No one’s ever going to hear you.

Zoomers, I swear to fucking God.

>load video
>see Keanu Reeves

Ok this could be cool...

>see yongyea's ugly face
>close video

No thanks, not interested in what that dicksucking sycophant has to say.

All it was supposed to be was a video game. I think we are getting that.

>This was supposed to be an adult game
That's a blast from the past.

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How the fuck do you know it's not possible?

>fully interactive sex scenes where the player controls it all

Even with obvious bait like this people will respond seriously.

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LMAO cdpr cucks defend this

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>advanced rpg mechanics based on pen and paper rpg system

But it's an fps...

>Varied selection of different character classes
OH NO NO NO NO NO

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>not wanting to be able to pull out and nut on some slut's face or her back instead

Let me guess, you want it to just fade to black like dragon age right? Or some lame shit like witcher where you don't see shit and it's geralt's model moving kinda slowly as some shitty music plays.

Female characters should go through pregnancy in real time, their model bellies expanding as they carry V's child. This also goes for female V if she fools around too much without proper protection.

Am I right?

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Did you actually expect any of that to come from a game that was also gonna have a console version?

bros

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Third person console pleb detected

>pen&paper RPG system
What is that supposed to be? Some "advanced" manchild "I pretend I live in with the society" system?

With that wide of a scope the game would never be finished. It's nice to fantasize but you have to be realistic also.

pure delusion

their mistake was translating a tabletop game into action-esque combat.
they should have gone the crpg route.

because he's not a technologically illiterate retard.

>they should have gone the crpg route.
Theres no $$$ in that user

exactly this, you can't stay true to pen and paper with FPS/action combat.

Ok

Holy shit how deep does the rabbit hole go? How can one person be this autistic?

Lmao at least vtmb2 will be better

pen and paper is determined by dice rolls, you can still have the perks and skill level effect the game, the only thing different is that your chance to hit is determined by aim, actually chance to hit can still be in the game in the form of spread, fallout 3 and NV did this, it's completely possible

perks just turn into abilities you can use, skill effects weapon spread, and damage in the case of Melee weapons, as well as swing speed, it actually translates quite well

He tried to warn us bros...
We didn't listen

Yeah you can

Pic related really has made all the Nintendies mad as fuck, hasn't it

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I wasn't really following Jedi order that much but I'm low key getting my hopes up desu.

>Lots of classes
>They better motherfucker, its an RPG.
Not anymore. Not anymore.

I played dmc 4 and 5 on pc, and the reboot game, and metal gear rising and bayo on pc. Now what, faggot?

It's going to sell twice as much as Witcher 3 no matter what you say.

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vtmb2 has shit animation and even worse combat

>Who cares if its just a shitty GTA clone it sells!
Money isn't everything you retard

>You behave like children, constantly searching for something to be mad about, so you can whine and complain and bitch and moan

Welcome to social media era.

So? Doesn't make it good. Is that supposed to scare me or something?

>but I'm low key getting my hopes up desu.
Haven't you learned anything?

>ability to dye clothing
What? Why would you even list that?

It's still going to be a great game. All the retards moaning are the same retards who believed Star Citizen bullshit.

Call me when everybody plays on a supercomputer maybe then you will get the games you want.

.. so the star citizen of RPGs? do you retards see why they scaled back features?

Game isn't out yet and you already cry, what the fuck is wrong with you retards? Just kill yourselves

Saints Row had it.

>combat system a mix of ninja gaiden/dmc/metal gear rising for melee and max payne/unreal tournament for gunplay
Source: my ass

how will nintendo recover?

Typical Yea Forums. You should cry all the time and be contrarian about everything.

How is this anything like Star Citizen? Star Citizen is actually doing that shit, cdpr chickened out.

youtube.com/watch?v=1_VR6W7Xc-4

I like how these shills are pretending CDPR didn't cut features of the game they promised us. Stop acting like we ask for to much when they were making all these false promises hyping us up to begin with.

God you’re a fucking loser

>mfw FF7Remake will literally be a better Cyberpunk game

Strange timeline but I’ll manage

when? I could use a laugh. so when is SC going to be feature complete, up and running with only bug fixes and quality of life patches left to be made?

How come my ass came up with a better combat system than what cdpr is doing then?

>that big autistic list of OPs delusional sperg fantasies
You are truly a strange child.

This. I preordered FF 7 Remake. It's an actual cyberpunk game and will have way way way better combat and character designs.

Don't know, but when it finishes? It'll be spectacular. Whatever happened to developers committing to a vision, and "It'll be done when it's DONE"?

Final Fantasy is fucking shit.

Is Pokemon dying or is that just a troll list that omits Pokemons view count just to make a false point?

Cyberpunk 2077 isn't shit. It's fucking dogshit.

>combat system a mix of ninja gaiden/dmc/metal gear rising for melee and max payne/unreal tournament for gunplay
>fully customizable cars and weapons like saints row
>fully interactive sex scenes where the player controls it all

fucking kek, literally who told you that this is what cyberpunk was supposed to be? does your dad work for CDPR?

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Katana Zero has better combat than this cdpr shit has lmao

its more cyberpunk too

>could had been a cyberpunk top-down turn-based rpg with loads of customization
>instead it's just another deus ex: human revolution

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none of this bothers me as much as the fact it just feels like a garbage attempt at cyberpunk

its clearly going for a super mainstream grab at the GTA crowd. I mean it'll still be fun, and its obviously going to be stupidly successful. but it could've been so much better

>people taking advantage of these threads to shill their favorite new toy
death stranding, watch dogs and now ff7r
whats next?

It's not even out yet, but every Witcher game is better than any Final Fantasy game. Even 1 with the rhythm game combat bullshit and 2 with the stupid roll spamming.

XV was hands down one of the worst games I've ever played. 7 is an overrated turd that is selling purely off nostalgia, and you have garbage taste for even still buying that trash.

That combat system is feasible, same for the cars and weapons. The sex thing fine, I can get that being toned down, but why the combat? Make it like this:

youtube.com/watch?v=QLJ5vXH5yb4

lmao

Yeah go play your japanese games incels. The real men will play a god-tier game like cyberpunk and won't cry about every aspect of the game. You fucking retards think that every rumor about cyberpunk is true, so when someone will say that your fucking mother is in the game you will actually believe it. That's how low iq you are faggots.

>It's not even out yet, but every Witcher game is better than any Final Fantasy game. Even 1 with the rhythm game combat bullshit and 2 with the stupid roll spamming.


That shit right there is why Poland always got the stereotype of being stupid as shit.

We won't need to "cry" about our game, because FF 7 Remake will be fucking amazing, and you'll be stuck making excuses for your piece of shit game not being fun, not having fun or skillful combat, and just being cod in a badly done gta ripoff city.

Cloud>>>>>>>>V
Tifa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Femme V

>instead it's just another deus ex: human revolution
Nah it's a John Wick Simulator now.

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WHY DID THEY TURN IT INTO A THEME PARK?

Fucking why turn it into a “look at all the meaningless bullshit you can do” GTA-clone instead of craft something like a better Mass Effect which they would have absolutely dominated at.
Why why why. It makes no fucking sense. Is it just Rockstarbucks they want?

>FF 7 Remake will be fucking amazing
This is what all the spergs were saying about XV.

Sorry your franchise sucks so hard it has to reboot its only actually popular title just to salvage itself from the dumpster fire it has been burning in for decades. Your little Jap game is still going to fail.

And we were right. FF XV is an amazing game, and the combat is fantastic, and an evolution of action combat.

Also older Noctis looks more like John Wick than that Johnny Silverhand does.

So I assume your father is the CEO of CD Project Red and he knows everything about cyberpunk so he told you about how this game will be shit. That's why you hate it, don't you?

>FF XV is an amazing game
>and the combat is fantastic
>an evolution of action combat
Your trolling was believable up until now.

The game is almost a year away dude we barely know anything substantial chill the fuck down.

No, but watch the gameplay demo, it's shit. You can just tell, plus all the cut features. Where's my car customization? I can't put nitrous on my car, or add lights to the sides, or even repaint it or pimp out my rims? The fuck kind of cyberpunk is that?

It was a genuinely enjoyable game. Not my fault you're a bitter, pessimistic bastard. Yet you'll eat this polish slop right up huh? Seems racist, hate japanese games but love ones made by europeans. Eurocentric fucking bastard.

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>It was a genuinely enjoyable game.
It really wasn't.
It was garbage from start to finish and its combat somehow managed to make BamHam look enjoyable by comparison.

>>a fully open world rpg with both third and first person cameras you can toggle
Why on earth would you want a third person camera in a cyberpunk game?

>What cyberpunk was supposed to be
>a load of shit people literally made up
this is what happens when people like you let your imaginations get the best of you. maybe pay attention to upcoming games instead of picturing what they might be.

I think FF7R will be better than GTA2077 and you’re still a cringy dumb fuck.

What the fuck kind of bullshit fantasy is this? You think something like this would be profitable to develop and sell at a $60 price point? You think something like this is even possible with current hardware? Get the fuck out of here with your useless delusions. There are tons of things people should be concerned about regarding the development of the game but you are getting mad over things that you and a bunch of other autistic children on the internet literally just pulled out of their asses. Why not fucking ask CDPR to model the entire fucking USA in 2077 while you're at it?

when was this stuff shown or mentioned in an interview? I just don't understand where the expectations even come from.

did you just imagine a game and pretend that you were told they were making it?

>Besides no harm in letting you switch, gta and saints row does, so why not this?
Because those games aren't trying to be Deus Ex. The entire concept behind games like this is that you are inside the protagonist's head. You see the world from their perspective. Third person games are a whole other kettle of fish. There's a reason the immersive sim design ethos was exclusively first person. Deus Ex, Thief, System Shock -- they're first person because the whole idea is to exist in this world. Not to manipulate some avatar in third person.

>It was supposed to be THE cyberpunk game. Basically like living IN Blade Runner or something. Like a cyberpunk life sim.
You're not wrong user. They did present it to be like that and I'm sad that it isn't as Bladerunner is my favorite movie.

So I can do this:

youtube.com/watch?v=zbMzPgEHTJ4

You can only do combat like that in third person, first person blows

>Years ago on both cdpr official forums for the game and Yea Forums tons of people theorized what the game would be like
I imagine CDPR's fanbase would be made up of people completely out of touch with the likes of Deus Ex and Perfect Dark. I think that's why so many of them were shocked by Cyberpunk 2077 being a first person game.

Tell me who the fuck has enough money to do a game like this?
Has a single game with this many features which were also implemented in a quality way ever been made?
This game would take 20 years to make.

>It was supposed to be THE cyberpunk game. Basically like living IN Blade Runner or something. Like a cyberpunk life sim.
who the fuck was retarded enough to believe this? how could this possibly be a reasonable expectation for any video game?

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>Why not fucking ask CDPR to model the entire fucking USA in 2077 while you're at it?


Ok, and you say I am the one being ridiculous here...

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So first you say this game is a "badly done gta ripoff city", then you want be able to customize your car like in the GTA. Also, you rate the game after one demo. Do you really think they will show everything in 40 mins gameplay?

the game isn't even out yet lol
you dumb niggers deserve to be upset and disappointed. you do it to yourselves.

>How come my ass came up with a better combat system than what cdpr is doing then?
CDPR's combat system kinda looks like Syndicate 2012's. Which is hardly a bad thing.

Explain Witcher then. I felt fully immersed playing as Geralt and immersed into that world, and it was third person. I didn't go "oh man I can tell it's fake, because it's not first person!"

Also first person isn't more immersive, it's less immersive, since you just see a floating gun. I held guns before and walked around, I didn't just see a gun magically float in front of me. Come on now.

>theorized
>supposed
Woah buddy, you went and contradicted yourself in the same post. Great job bro

What happened? What news was revealed?

Reminder that hack and slash combat is retarded and there's a reason pretty much everyone outside Japan left it behind years ago.

Come on user, you should know that """"""""""""""""""""""""""RPG"""""""""""""""""""""" now a days means Open world Action adventure game with different endings that are basically all the same

>YOU ACTUALLY HAD EXPECTATIONS WHAT A FUCKING RETARD HAHAHAHA MAKING GAMES IS HARD INCEL

>i wish cyberpunk had dmc combat even though this is a shooting game :(
>this is somehow "coming up with" a combat system
you literally just said you want combat from another game in another genre, you didn't come up with anything lmao also it's a shit idea

>Literally none of these things are going to be in the game

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I said Saints Row, not gta. Saints Row is better than gta, and Saints Row 3 and 4 are more cyberpunk than this game is.

youtu.be/WHMGBMAtIAI?t=87

you had unrealistic expectations because you're a literal child with an overactive imagination. nothing they've shown has led anyone to expect any of this dumb shit. you're just very stupid, sorry to be the one to break the news to you sport

How is it retarded? It's fun and takes skill, unlike western cinematic garbage where you just hit a button as a cutscene plays of your character beating someone to death.

>Explain Witcher then. I felt fully immersed playing as Geralt and immersed into that world, and it was third person.
You were not Garalt. You were controlling Geralt. You didn't look down and see Geralt's hands. You didn't physically pick up objects as Geralt. Place them on a shelf. You didn't walk into a library and peruse the shelves, crouching to check whether a book fell beneath the table. Notice how third person games typically have extremely non-reactive game worlds where everything is nailed to the floor?
>Also first person isn't more immersive, it's less immersive, since you just see a floating gun. I held guns before and walked around, I didn't just see a gun magically float in front of me. Come on now.
When did you last play Syndicate 2012, Cyberpunk 2077's very blatant design predecessor? What gun "magically floating"? The gun is in your hand. Which is attached to your arm. Which is attached to your torso. Which is attached to your body that you see when you look down.

>everyone outside Japan left it behind years ago.

Because japan is actually fun?

>How is it retarded?
Because guns beat swords every time.

the only ones that you can argue are 1 and 6 and even then those are subjective. game's not even out yet how could you possibly know anything about how many quests or classes there are or what the combat is like? stop being a baby just because you can't play as roboDante and mash X for 30 hours

VBtM is one of the best RPG and it have both first person and third person perspective. Fucking moron

action game combat like dmc or ninja gaiden fits cyberpunk perfectly. Deus Ex sucked ass, melee combat in that was you hitting one button as adam jensen did a cutscene of him killing someone. It's garbage.

I understand people not liking the juggle stuff in japanese games, but why not do a hybrid, like the realism of bamham but with japanese game controls and stuff, so you can fight like john wick or something.

Whats fucked is the company knew we had expectations and capitalized on it which is why the game is over hyped right now. They literally said it was going to be an RPG then quietly changed it to an action adventure game. They love that we all gave our hopes up. But keep shilling you guys are doing a great job, im sure the norimes will love your GTA clone.

But I'm not V, I'm just controlling V. So how is first person better? Unless the game can transport me INTO the game world like some matrix shit, I will always know I am NOT V. If anything this game was flawed from their concept, until we get matrix tech they shouldn't have bothered.

I can’t believe just how ASSMAD trannies are over this game.
I think we might actually see people commit suicide at release day.

>when it finishes
if

>Whatever happened to developers committing to a vision, and "It'll be done when it's DONE"?
they run out of money and the game is either buried completely or raped into a piece of shit by Gearbox, like what happened to DNF.

That's because Japanese people enjoy fun things, meanwhile the west is obsessed with being mature and respectful and making movies, not video games you actually want to play. Case in point, RDR2, for all the hype it got, who even still plays it? The game isn't fun to play at all, it's like a shitty chore.

Except in the tabletop there's tons of melee weapons, so no, guns don't beat swords everytime. Also why is John Wick in this game then, in his movies he can beat people barehanded despite them having guns. Fuck, he killed like 3 armed guys with a goddamn PENCIL.

Because they are making their games for consoles. So they care about money. If they did not - they would stick with PC.

VTMB's third person perspective is a Source engine boilerplate that is borderline unusable when trying to interact with things. It looks like a shitty third person Source mod and plays like a shitty third person Source mod.

Wrong:

youtu.be/QR7N8Jrm0ZA?t=12

That looks better than the melee combat cdpr is forcing on us.

It's still an RPG. Are you retarded or something?

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>Deus Ex sucked ass, melee combat in that was you hitting one button as adam jensen did a cutscene of him killing someone. It's garbage.
The original Deus Ex didn't have QTE takedowns. The QTE takedowns in modern Deus Ex are pretty much universally disliked by old school Deus Ex fans. In fact, literally every third person mechanic is disliked because they suck compared to the original. In the original DE, you can climb ladders and use grenades while climbing, for example. Can't do that in modern DE, because ladder climbing is a shitty third person animation.

Baby should be fully modelled and simulated at all time. So damage would affect his development.

third person has nothing to do with the shitty canned melee crap, japanese games don't do that shit

Behold, a real cyberpunk game, in third person, with actual GOOD combat:

youtube.com/watch?v=9AvRYccs15A

Why dont you go cry into your pillow user, your opinions suck and I'm sure everyone is tired of them.

>But I'm not V, I'm just controlling V.
You are essentially possessing V. Whatever V sees, you see. Whatever V hears, you hear. Go back and play Thief. You can only see what Garrett sees. You peer around a corner. Your physical presence is his physical presence. Your ears are hearing exactly what he hears. You close your eyes and turn your head, listening to the approaching footsteps. This is extremely important. Splinter Cell was inspired by Thief, but you are fundamentally not Sam Fisher. You are not INSIDE HIS HEAD. The whole idea behind immersive sims is to exist in a world that reacts appropriately to your actions. This is very specifically why Deus Ex, Thief, System Shock, Prey, Dishonored, etc are all first person. They are about walking in someone's shoes, not watching someone else walk in a pair of shoes. That's not the same thing.

See this cutscene in Far Cry 5?
youtube.com/watch?v=wKoqEnqeX5Y
This cutscene cannot be accomplished in third person. Characters cannot talk TO you if the game is third person. In a third person game, they would be talking to the protagonist. But with a first person game, they look you in the eye. They take your hand. This is what Deus Ex fans want from something like Cyberpunk. They don't want some game about dressing up a virtual doll and making it go on adventures. They want to step into the world of cyberpunk and see it through the eyes of its inhabitants.

>You are essentially possessing V.


I don't think I want to play as a demon...

>shitty canned melee crap, japanese games don't do that shit
Didn't the Japanese basically invent shitty canned melee?

lmao go an shill your weeb garbage somewhere else