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Pass is vee
Neither shaq nor magnets was present at Garage Gear. Yet I still got 2nd place because Purdue somehow seems like a nest of sion players

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Ohh, I've heard of you

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i am not a big fan of the playstation dpad
i can barely do a rekka on this thing

I had to switch to using the joystick. The DS4 dpad is just too clunky for me

>tfw analog

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lol how the fuck did I get IW from inputting 236c

I caught the stream as you and Merk fought each other. Those were some good games.

>Good games
>When merk tried to interrupt like 6 FFs and ate all of them
Our fight earlier in the bracket was better.
At least I wasn't completely free against silverhydra. I at least got a reaction out of the crowd when I 623C'd through the IW

And good, clawz learned how to convert off stray fireball hits

Linne so cute
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Be gentle, I was on break...

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I don't understand the point of enkidus rekka having distinct versions on A/B when there's no actual mixup or meaningful difference in terms of combo/blockstring use

in a game where half the cast has a rekka of some kind that has has a kind of gimmick going on it seems odd to give someone a really basic fei long style

cunny

I see what you mean, this dpad is like a whole different beast
I can't do my blockstrings correctly and I'm having the "orbiter becomes pale bringer and vice versa" issue for the first time

As for me, I got bodied both times at my local brackets by Psykotik who's the latest outside player to visit for a while. The mirror really exposes my lack of fundamentals and inability to not drop combos. It was fun though.

Other than that I was actually playing decently yesterday in contrast to my really uneven play the past week. I don't know when the consistency will start kicking in but it'll be one of these years I suppose.

Oh hey, ryburi got the game on PS4. Looks like we've been getting a couple of PC double-dippers recently after that big sale.

>it seems odd to give someone a really basic fei long style
That was sadly the point of the character, to be that street fighter guy in a game with half-screen normals.
>meaningful difference in combo/blockstring use
That's where you're a bit wrong because 236BB is one of his strongest combo starters. 236B in the corner also doesn't use up a hard knockdown while 236B at least lets them hang in the air for a bit for more damaging EX routes. People also like to use 236BB as a combo ender to have the opponent wake-up significantly closer to Enkidu than finishing 236AAA would position them. But I won't disagree how little difference there is and that 236BB hitting low is of no effect to anyone who knows Enkidu's blockstrings.
Shit, was there another one?

I was able to beat this Orie player who extensively used OS's. And as it turns out, I can block 6B offline, I'm not a lost cause just yet.
Merk bodied him on stream because he didn't respect charged fireballs. But in that regard, I was dropping combos really hard because timing rekkas is slightly different and I kept fucking up the 22A link, which means goodbye to around 1k of extra damage

>That was sadly the point of the character, to be that street fighter guy in a game with half-screen normals.
akatsuki is from a game that literally plays like street fighter and can't even run

One of the PC Yuzus sometimes comes in really late after normal lobby closing hours.

I blocked pretty much every single 6B in the mirror but I definitely have to work on the other things.

The difference is that Enkidu needs to spend meter for his 1 frame parry, spend all of his meter for a fireball, and have incredibly poor frame data in general while Akatsuki also gets a double jump.

oh, there was a sale? oops

Thanks to hippie and merk for teaching me good wagner stuff. was great to get out and see people out there

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Spend that bar
Use that 66C

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Did you guys travel for this thing or do you all just happen to live near chicago?

It was mostly the chicagoland area guys

That's another name I haven't seen

And he got kicked out of the room during my fight

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I shouldn't play tonight, since I'm all frustrated from pointless ranked stress of going like 2-40 tonight, losing my red, and my destiny of suffering in this game of wack MU's. Convince me to not join and just work out or something, because I hate quitting on a down note and apparently want to suffer more. I know it shouldn't matter, but I hate having to play ranked to find matches because I'm a neurotic person and putting a number to my failures hits hard even if I try to ignore it.

>Mika
Probably Harukasan with a changed ID? I mean Icy likely isn't the only one who changed PSN IDs.

Losses aren't the same as failures.

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enkidu also has autopilot into 3k and 4C, the strongest normal in the entire game

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>this controller still isn't available for purchase

ggs, I feel like I'm trying to learn how to ride a bike again and feel like an idiot
next time I'll come with a converter

correct

Oh right, that could be a possibility.
>autopilot 3k
I'm guessing havoc + vorpal 5BBB5CCC?
Sure but without the two attributes above my 5A combo does more than the autopilot.

nah not the autocombo, just he has really simple combos for 3k.

i'm talking stuff like 5b5c2c3c -> j.bcc -> 66c -> 236[b] -> now they're in the corner from halfscreen and you do a followup. the kind of things where its near impossible to drop

Ok Enkidu, you got me motivated to keep at it. I'll go run for a bit to burn off this frustration and join in 30-40 mins if it's still up then.

This made me realize we have two mika players in here.
I can't actually remember the last time that happened

>next time
Show up more.
Everyone needs more Hyde experience that isn't me and I certainly need more of it.

>7f
Oh no

To my experience, most enkidus don't even know that midscreen corner carry stuff. Maybe like 3-4 of them that I've ever fought have an idea how his combo theory works but most default to autocombos and jB > jC > divekick for all their combos.
It's actually rare to see 623A/B used in their corner combos too.

>separate buttons for dpad inputs AND analog stick
You could do double the shenanigans of a gafrobox with this thing couldn't you?

I know you get this a lot but these threads start way too late for me to show up that often
I'll try my best though

most people that play a character being brainlets doesn't mean the combos themselves are hard

>try to assault
>somehow IW
>2c becomes 3c
>4b becomes 214b
>cord disconnects midair
oh fuck I shouldn't be so pissed about this

You're probably the 2nd most namedropped PC player so I hoped this wouldn't be the case but oh well.

Was watching an EU UNIST online tourney and learned that apparently FF is used in standard Linne CVO combos? I had never really seen it used in combos before so I thought that was really neat.

It seemed to be used after 236C and then going into IW right after running in to FF or something along those lines.

GGs PSN lobby.
Gonna hop onto PC and see if there's a smaller room. Soon my one week chaos will be worth something hopefully.

GGs lolb, gotta go to bed, nice matches.

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ggs

True, but with so simple a moveset I don't think he was ever meant to be a problem. Damage was never his problem but opening people up becomes an issue when his overheads are so easily telegraphed.

It makes it look really cool but it prorates and scales like hell from what I've seen. You do it for style than for damage since I don't think there's anything wrong with piling EX kuugas on EX kuugas

Is park still a netplay stage? Seems like it's been causing issues all day.

Sounds good and yeah it definitely did look stylish.

GGs

netplay stages are not a thing

>assaults into IW
This happens to me a lot if I'm shielding from far away and want to assault to close a gap
>2C becomes 3C
My run up 3C attempts usually just end up as 2Cs or 66Cs
I know these pains

I'd read once that UNIST tries syncing stage background animations during netplay, hence training room and park being preferred, but I never saw anything else about that or whether it was true.

I just avoid Altar at all costs

>now no bars with Haru even though I really need that Mika experience
Oh come the fuck on.

Time to get some matches in too. Gonna need more Nanase matchup experience as well Clawz since that's what stopped me from winning an online tourney I entered over the weekend.

Looking forward to fun times!

Good mikas are like unicorns

That was pretty sick jumping in after 5[C] right there.

Or I should say what followed looked pretty cool.

I can never get games with the really good Mika at my locals since he plays other games and also does some TOing and stuff. Even then he has a much more grounded "fundamental UNI" style so that wouldn't give much experience with the air shenanigans.

I wish we had more. I die to Mikas because everything they do feels like a frametrap.

Is Orie's thingy really an ahoge?

it's UNI after all, everyone's got frametraps for days

I die because I keep eating jCs.
And my chronic shielding addiction keeps popping up.
>thingy
What else were you going to call it

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rip host

Was it streamed by any chance? I wanted to watch any hot Elts and maybe some Hyde action.

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I feel like I was robbed of that EX kuuga hahaha. Fun match.

You should actually try to shield Mikas when they're in the air because they die if you shield a j.[C] or rockets.

this entire game is frametraps my man

I just wanna alt tab on pc version : (

Does shielding the rocket prevent her from using the followup/direction change?

No

If you shield a Mika rocketing while remaining at ground level, there's a high chance you might get your shield broken.

Here ya go. Though I think they only did top 8. There seemed to be a fair amount of Eltnum play though and I believe 1 beat hippie in GF so you'll definitely find some good play here.

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>merkava flight can cancel out of being shielded despite being an air attack
>mika torpedoes can't
>wagner 6c can cancel out of being shielded despite being a jumping grounded attack
>mika 3b can't
french bread are such jerks

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Get borderless gaming application.

>keep getting 1AD instead of 2AD
hippie isn't even ever special canceling his 66Bs, why do I even bother with the OS when I can just VO or mash 2A on those.

Yeah it does. You can't do any rocket followups after getting shielded. You can even be a cheeky shit and meet her air to air since even ground rockets are air shieldable.

Now I actually want to die. Endless losses, and now my stick is doing it's fuck up that pops up randomly every month or so where it freezes the current input for like 3 sec on and off and I have no idea why.

It always works the first time whenever I remember I can do them

Looks like it's time to convert to pad master race.

The thing is that I know every time it's coming but I try for 2AD like a fancypants anyway and get shield because I can't OS properly.

Just like I should remember to pay attention to my 214A getting shielded and frametrap with the ~A followup instead of autopiloting to ~B.

antennae!

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That blocking was pretty darn good Sei.. Too bad you didn't nab all that meter in the last few seconds via CS.

doesn't plinking 1A~D cover the same options as 2AD but let you keep blocking? is there any important difference between the two?

It doesn't act up when I play on PS4 at locals, but it's a weird driver issue with my PC, and I've tried everything, and it will work weeks at a time and them act up again.

Whoops, didn't mean to add an extra period there to make it sound cryptic haha. My bad.

Silverhydra sent me to losers and then I crawled my way back up just so I could lose again.
And yeah it was basically Top 6 because one match was played on another set. I've beaten him before and I don't think he's anywhere as scary as the other two sions but a loss is a loss, I've already identified my mistakes.

goddammit hippie

I'm pretty sure the lobby blowups are incompatibility between me and Haru at this point. The lobby actually lived this time when I exited on the loading screen freeze.

I'm a pad executionlet and plinking is beyond me. Also I think 1A~D and 2AD are functionally equivalent since you'll remain blocking if in hitstun but get your low A if not, either loses to frametraps.

I noticed that too, and I almost invariably fail at trying to spectate your matches, despite playing together being fine

oh well, I'll dip out now anyway. thanks for the games, friends.

Also it seems my training buddy is ready to gym up so I'll be back later tonight if lobby is still up.

See ya in abit!

Right on. Looking forward to your comeback at the next event if it gets streamed again. You and Merk did pretty well in the Top 8 from what I watched. Too bad you had to eleminate him in losers Finals.

I believe Spoon was there too? Hope he got some good experience out there. Maybe one of these days I'll hop into my local and see if they've got UNIST running and see what offline higher level play is like too.

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That set between you and Merk was spicy. I was hoping that Magnets would be there, but oh well.

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>Also I think 1A~D and 2AD are functionally equivalent since you'll remain blocking if in hitstun
Yeah that sounds right, guess it just comes down to preference

Well, maybe we'll be able to play some other night. This incompatibility issue tends to resolve itself randomly eventually because this netcode is dumb.

truly my mistake was coming out of just lurking again

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I hope you come regularly, we need all the Mika experience we can get and I can just make another lobby or something if it still doesn't work next time so we can both get matches in the bad scenario.

Ggs your Mika is really good definitely one of the best I've played against.

I'm landing so many 22B starters in the corner yet not going to my specific combo for it.
Literally aside from each other and silverhydra, it was a clear shot at 1st place for either of us. At least we got the payout for it and basically got a refund, hell, even had a decent cookout despite the monsoon season we've been having. Park also died to silverhydra but he also left a bit early and I couldn't get some casual matches in with him while merk had the chance to.
And yeah, we both coached park for a bit. He just needed to tap into his inner aggression
We need all hands on deck for whatever we face at EVO, keep stopping by. Believe it or not, we've had worse netplay connection days.

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that other mika (wald?) is probably better than me anyhow, you all could free me up any day of the week
>we
oh boy

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Bastodon mostly keeps to 66B and [FF] memes and engaging from high in the sky.
He's no regular mika but yours is a bit more traditional, which is probably more along the ones we'll end up fighting.

AHHHHHHH WHY DID I DO THE SIDE SWITCH

Lost all momentum, just end me now

I haven't seen Bast play Mika in a while, he seems to have set himself as a Wald main.

Ah man, I almost wanna just sign up to see how far I go in pools. Even if it's like 2 matches.

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>Yuzu wakeup parries
>Byak wakeup super web
Have to remember to meaty 22C occasionally to put the fear of Thanatos into these shenanigans.

Wald's still actually my least used character. Mika and Chaos have been pretty much taking most of my time right now. I just usually stick to him when I play in these lobbies.

Bring that Chaos in for more matches.
Jesus christ we all need to fight more chaos

I'll still seb u. i'm not scared

>Chaos
That'll be interesting since we don't have any on PSN. My occasional sub doesn't really count since it's been at day 1 level for like a year.

Sei, weren't you just Yellow a few days ago. Did you bully some people to get back up?

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I'm not a bully I just play a lot of ranked. Gotta get that RIP

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Damn Clawz, feels like every time I cvo you, you do it back right after.

PS:Oreo is a monster

Jesus Christ it's back to messing up all my CS and OS inputs.

Holy shit that was the strangest sideswitch I ever converted.

The room keeps kicking me so I'll take this as my sign to leave ggs.

ggs

finally finished trails so I have time to play UNI
is there a pc lobby up?

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Sei?
Sorry about that, GGs

>PC lobby
Think so
>Trails
Which one

Are you gonna be doing ranked tomorrow? I wanna do some matches again with you.

He's really fun to play so I'll probably stick with him long enough to be worth something. He's a bit easier to use than Wald I think.

Which one? I finished Ao a little while ago.

Sky SC

Cool. I hope you enjoy Kevin's game.

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No worries I'm dropping my inputs like crazy tonight anyways
Im usually always on ranked so you know where to find me.

I was under the impression me and blue were the only ones who finished Ao. Who are you?
Time for 3rd then.

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Melk

I'm taking a bit of a break before I go into 3rd.
Gotta de-rust in UNI since I'm heading out to a few smaller tournies

Then that makes 3.

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>half the lobby gets kicked once again
Maybe it wasn't just a Haru and me problem after all, what the hell.

Jesus fuck did I screw up that CVO combo.

>623c comes out as 236c
That physically hurt

You guys are talking about this like it hasn't happened before

This is going to be the month where I finally make using 4A-D and 2A-D a regular thing.

Whew, one of these days I'm gonna actually follow up my 22a/236a CHs.

I'm convinced that there's not a single thing Wag can do at round start against Oreo.

You gotta apply your buffed attacks with a bit more tact, dash. You're really not making use of the liberties it gives you.

WAT

>All those panic misinputs
Oh crap

hippieeeeeeee

>rejoin
>0 bars with Dash

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Dash and razzy tend to have some weird connections. Dash used to be like 1 bar with me

Ok, I'm getting tired of this controller's pad. Time to take advantage of the little sale going on and get a fresh DS4 unless someone has a better controller to suggest.

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>sale
Is it a good one? I might need a new controller soon.

How so? Any button I try just gets punished. Always just out of reach, gets blocked, too slow, hit before my attack even happens, the whole nine yards. I have no idea how to handle Orie.

And the buffs, sometimes that not what I'm even trying to do. One match had me 22b when I tried using 2b. Also tonight a 236a became the b version, 236a>22c didn't happen, and so on.

In short, I'm trash at this game.

It's $40 right now for USA peeps.

>dropping all my elt combos
Damn, gotta get used to pc again

Try to see what I'm doing. It's what I was coaching spoon during my local on Saturday.
Spend your resources, make your opponent incredibly wary of how dangerous Wagner can be when you got CS and both bars. Atic's orie is another beast but you in general need more wagner discipline in you. One of our other wagners, blue, gets a couple rounds from atic frequently. I feel that wagner doesn't need to respect Orie's spacing capabilities with how her specials all move her forward, you just need to be able to cover yourself afterwards.

>Two IW drops in one night

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But there's no meter at round start. And drilling forward tends to get me hit.

Fuck punishing whiffs, go IWEX whiff instead and lose match.

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>mfw I've been dropping BnBs these last few matches

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Then it just looks like you need to establish space during round start

Wagner in general has better frame data than Orie up close (just compare their 2Cs to see how more privileged Wag's is). You just have to be aware of spacing since Orie's midscreen neutral is better.

GGs pc lobby. Gotta get to bed so I can be rested for tommorow.
I don't anything unusual going on this week so I should be here most days.

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It hurt my heart too. Reminds me of when I tried to play Linne the other day after not touching her for months.

Orie has the advantage then. I know about Wag's frame data but that doesn't matter in the hands of a scrub.

I don't know when to attack when both of us are blocking. Always time it wrong.

GGs. One day I'll figure out how Nanase works.

These 5 frames matches are killing me
And apparently it's killing the rest of the lobby too

GGs pc guys
UNI feels really foreign now, not sure if I should grind back to being okay or just do other stuff

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Alright, gonna close it when it gets back to me
And then sha joins the room

I really don't think there's much to it.
She has respectable pokes with extremely long stagger windows that have are on the latter end of horizontal range for the cast but have trashcan vertical hitboxes.
She has a several overheads that can all be blocked on reaction and have low to moderate payout.
She has a rideable fireball that's just a shittier version of Seth orbs.
She has a forward moving special that's a shittier version of divine thrust/mika twister.
She can spend meter to hip check your defense or to try to extend pressure
She can extend pressure or go for goofy mixups with her FF but they all have answers to shut it down.

Playing Vatista for so long kinda made it more obvious to me how nonthreatening and overly honest Nanase can be a lot of the time.

>She has a forward moving special that's a shittier version of divine thrust/mika twister.
Maybe I'm biased, but swordcar beats divine thrust head to head, you can space the 7f A swordcar to be plus, and the EX version is projectile invuln unlike EX thrust so it's not shittier at all, just different. I'd say Mika's is better than both though.

>shittier than Seth Orb
Functionally yes but whenever I try to tag Nanase out of the air while she throws out a fireball I get hit a lot of the times
At least Seth's can be smacked out of orb set-up in the air.

I really don't know how to get out of a corner against a good spider boy.

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I'll make a new room if nobody else does as I just got back from the gym and still wanted to play. Don't feel too bad about leaving if you want to, I got ya covered!

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That was a bit of bitterness on my part. They aren't 1:1 moves and swordcar has situations where it's better than thrust naturally. Like being able to 236a a divine thrust after 214xb and beat is pretty funny. But I feel like thrust has more situations where it has an impact on the matchup than swordcar does.
Also yeah, mika twister is ridiculous. Still say it's one of the best moves in the game right up there with gems, orb, yuzu tele, et cetera.

>*and beat it out

Dash, FF > 22A is never safe.
Buff should never be a blockstring unless it's 22C

I auto-piloted, I can never fight you guys and stay calm and collected for some reason.

Thanks for the games. Yuzu is always really fun to fight.

GGs. Nice to see you come around waifu.

On paper I know she's super vulnerable to a lot of things, and visually looks more threatening than it really is, but the wavy moves she has seems to trip me up similar to how Hyde used to. Doesn't really help my only real experiences against her have been NeoN and clawz before you.

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lobby still up?

Raz, if I can poke you out of your overhead in 3f you're being too predictable with your timing.

Why do atic and sha always try to take it to time? Is this the socal special?

If you're talking PS, it''s about to close but I'll throw a new one up afterward so if you wanted to play, feel free to hop in.

I wish I had the patience to take it to time as a fellow Socal player.

The only thing dishonest about Vat is b drill/2c, and hiding drills in gems (bonus points if you pick the colors that make it actually impossible to see), but they are some of the most disgusting setups in the game...

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Yeah I know, my brain is kicking in full 6B gear. I should be making it less predictable, but that shit's in high gear now. I have been practicing with my timings though thanks to you and the others for advice.

Back to back 22Cs? Now I've seen everything.

>I can never fight you guys and stay calm and collected for some reason.
It get easier over time, but it's not automatic; you have to consciously tell yourself not to let yourself get tilted or it's easy to just let the autopilot kick back in.

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I'd love to rematch sha but I ain't got the time.
GGs
Somehow the 22A did it

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>another 1AD instead of 2AD
I'm really going to have to remind myself to just mash 2As in these situations.

At least you're not like me walking your 5As and jCs for free combos.
What the hell can Hyde get after a 22A without CS or meter?

That was a super close exchange between the divekick and exp DP, hahaha.

GGs

No one posted cute comic.
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>kicked from spectating Sha
All right, UNI netcode is clearly fucking with me if it's not even hippie's lobby and it's doing this

I'll do one more turn in the hotseat and go to sleep then.

Hey, it's the middle weeks of the month.
It must be shit week

That corner lockdown was too much for me, hahaha. Gotta figure out a way to beat the webs!

Also the lobby blew up unfortuantely just now, remade it!

>kicked from host
ill take it as a sign to make like a spider and 66b outta here

ggs amigos

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>not even one game before getting kicked again
Well okay then, it's probably my internet that's having a grudge with this netcode, so I won't subject everyone to these lobby explosions any longer.

ggs everyone.

GGs m8. Til next time!

GGs, See ya in the next one and hope everything works out for ya!

Ah dang haha. I'll play Yuzu on the next one then.

Bless Sai for being here to punish me when my brain decides to shoot for 66C.

I've hated Linne's grab ever since Cross Tag's tutorial. Can't react to it at all.

Anytime broski, haha.

Sorry to hear m8. At least it can't be combo'd into other stuff (unless you can use CS to do that? I've never tried).

Clearly putting me in the corner is what's blowing up these rooms so you guys ought to stop doing that.

Looks like Clawz and Razzy are having conneciton issues? Could just be a fluke in that instance though too.

Guess we'll see.

Certainly looks like it, hah.

What a finish after coming off of an exploding lobby, hahaha.

UNIST's netcode can't handle the stylish and clean combos.

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Just 1 jab away from getting me there haha.

>raw IWEX
SAAAI you've been playing with Icey too much

Saw that one coming a mile away, fun times!

Yeah, it's starting to become a muscle memory thing as well I feel haha.

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May as well get off at this rate. GGs everyone.

Aw shit there it goes again.

Think of it this way:
If IWEX can kill on its own then you could end the round with one combo. There are safer ways to get a hit than a glorified DP.
If you can use IWEX in the first place THEY can end the round with one combo, and it's extremely easy to punish. In the end it's never worth a neutral IWEX.

Went to brush my teeth and lobby blew up. Nice hahaha. It's up again!

GGs!

I suppose you're right. I just need to tell my brain and muscles that that's the right way to use it.

Now that was some proper IWEX!

Smart thinkan would be IW into killable combo.
Big brain thinkan would be IWEX that won't kill against Yuzu.

>2 EX sword cars into IWEX
Nice!

Hmm, 214B into 66C connects like that for Yuzu? Looks neat.

Dang. My grabs just kept falling short there haha. Also nice punish on my jab there. Definitely need to put my thinking cap on tighter.

That super extended VO couldn't escape the power of the gun at all.

Was that a slight walk to the left before 3C to position yourself for corner pressure Clawz?

Looked like it but just wanted to make sure. Seems like you get alittle bit of time to decide what todo after j.2[C].

The Night of the Gun is coming

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GGs everyone it got late fast tonight

You can dash under before the 3C for a sideswitch or to prevent one depending on whether the route had a swordcar in it. Otherwise you just wait for them to fall and 3C.

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GGs! Time flies when you're having fun right?

Also, that sounds pretty useful for lots of options to choose. Thanks for the clarification!

Had to run a quick RR break. Also let me know when you get tired of fighting Yuzu Razzy, hahah.

Had a feeling that would work. Now if only I could've pushed the momentum to win out there!

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I did it again, hahaha.

Forgot to throw in the right reaction image for this screw up.

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Those elbow exchanges, hah. These are some fun matches.

Gonna go ahead and head out soon myself. Let's go for 5 more matches here Absentia.

I was too respectful and didn't bang bang bang when you were doing your IW. GGs

Thanks for being patient, haha. GGs and see ya next time!

Thanks for the butt whoopings Absentia. Was fun times for sure haha. GGs and see ya next time!

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Oh yeah, forgot to mention but I definitely wanna try and learn that combo where you C teleport and j.214B into 2C. Looks awesome.

GGs all. And thanks for playing late Sai.

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Always a pleasure to do so when I can!