Objectively better than Jak 2 in every way

>half the content
That content was trash.
>Kiera fucks off so Jak can cuck Torn for no reason
Fuck Torn.

Wasteland was the shitty part and made the game suck.

>that content was trash
Glad we agree. 3 was shit.

I too enjoy vehicles with the durability of wet paper mache

3 is ruined by some of the guns being ridiculously overpowered. Why use any other gun when you can just pull out the beam reflector and have its ricochet shots bounce through the entire level and kill everything without even having to take a single step?

How well do these games emulate on PCSX2 by now? Anything I should take into account like how Jak 1 had OpenGL/DX issues?

I'll take OP over getting rekt every 5 seconds like in Jak 2 and then starting the whole mission over. God the checkpoints were shit.

>inb4 "muh challenge"

the vehicles and playing chicken with wasteland metalheads was the only good thing about the game, it had no substance and was too scattered in theme and focus

in contrast, jak ii was very grounded and focused and much better for it

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>jak ii was very grounded and focused

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3’s story is so bad, it doesn’t follow on from any of the loose ends/hints in 2 and adds a whole bunch of dumb new shit.

> Villian is a guy everyone pretends has existed forever and was connected to events of Jak 2, but it’s first we’ve heard of him, and his whole faction, and the entire role of religious elements in Haven City’s government
> first THIRD of the game is Jak doing odd jobs for wasteland people with no grander objective. Everything you did in Jak 2 was about fighting Baron or protecting city from Metal Heads, Jak as a character cared about this. In Jak 3 you have no motive outside of “get accepted into Spargus society and live a new life”
> Jak litterally tells Ashlin that he doesn’t care about Haven City and isn’t coming back
> LITTERALLY THE NEXT MISSION is going on the ancient underground speed-car-tunnel back to Haven City
> Jak 2 setup Metal Heads as the enemy of Precursors and caused thier extinction. Jak 3 retconned this by making up Dark Makers and Metal Heads are just mindless fodder now
> wtf was Cyber Errol’s plan? I can’t even remember, why is he waging war on Haven City? He looked cool, but his boss is one of worst in gaming history. You have an awesome looking cyborg with tons of weapons and even jetpack boosters, and he fights you by sending waves of goons and staying up on the catwalk.
> Jak 2’s ending was 100% hinting that the time-travel-loop bullshit wasn’t done yet and Jak was Mar. Jak 3 canned this and did the super awkward Jak is Damas’ son and his birth name is Mar thing, which tries to be a huge reveal but it’s litterally nothing. We already knew Jak was “rightful” Heir of Haven City because kid in 2 was.
> Jak+Ashlin is so fucking stupid
> Precursors as Ottsels is even worse, especially when 2 was about The Last Precursor Egg, which Kor was 100% satisfied was real

Jak 2 actually has a fantastic story, probably the best out of all that era of Ratchet/Sky/Jak. But 3 is just bad.

How well those games emulate?

i'm gonna bill praxis

>it doesn’t follow on from any of the loose ends/hints in 2 and adds a whole bunch of dumb new shit.
sounds just like the plot of 2 compared to TPL, funny.
>Everything you did in Jak 2 was about fighting Baron or protecting city from Metal Heads, Jak as a character cared about this. In Jak 3 you have no motive outside of “get accepted into Spargus society and live a new life”
Ah yes, I too enjoyed fighting through waves of shit to reach the baron only to have someone else kill him a cutscene. What a fun game.

>replay Jak 2
>man I wish I had the guns from 3 to use on all these crazy enemies
>replay Jak 3
>man I wish I had some crazy enemies like in Jak 2 to use any of these guns on

Jak 3 was a mess. It didn't know what it wanted to be. It was trying to act like a spiritual merger between 1 and 2 but just ended up being this awkward hybrid that didn't really succeed at either.

>the vehicles and playing chicken with wasteland metalheads was the only good thing about the game
No it it played like shit and having to stop just to hit the damn things were annoying only for it to ram you and send you flying across the map. The game should have focused on the three 3-way-war in haven city. All of those missions were fun and done right.

>It didn't know what it wanted to be.
Jak 2 had so much tonal clashing, what are you on about.

>when you have no argument

alright, but the eyes are fucked and a few other things, wish pcsx2 was better

well jak 2 sucked so

I can't believe there are people with taste this bad.
There's no argument to make. Jak 2 was dogshit. You either liked it because it's edgy or because you grew up with it. That's it.

At least none of it was as bad as Lost Frontier. God damn. I just wanted more Jak

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who gives af about enemies. pew pew wow big bad guy dead WOWWW. i dont play the game for the enemy sprites lmao wtf, i play for the core mechanics. jak 2 was cool because gta for toddlers is always funny. thats what i miss from jak 2 that isnt in jak 3, not the arrangement of polygons im shooting at.

>when you have no argument part 2

>Game was announced on April 1st
>It wasn't a joke

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I have nothing to say that shouldn't be immediately obvious to anyone with half a brain.

I can't believe the only decent mission the Wastleland had was the one where Daxter caught those things in that abandoned town. All the rest were rehashed artifact fetching ones. Name one Haven City mission where it was repeated 4 times.

The Jak series along with other kino western platformers prevented me from becoming a filthy weeb.
I still thank them to this day.

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Yeah. At least Ratchet has been pretty consistent with good titles vs bad.

Jak 3 apologists literally have no argument for why their game isn't a disappointment.
Jak 3 has those same exact vehicles plus the ones that handle like shit in the desert.
git gud

imagine finding the vehicles in jak 3 hard to control, holy shit.

Are you autistic?

I didn't say they were hard to control. I said they control like shit. Learn to read instead of embarrassing yourself.

It's not about 'arrangement of pixels' you mongoloid. Jak 3 has like zero enemy variety. There's none of the challenging shit like in 2.

Mah nigga

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Haven City hover vehicles are funner to use.

First game is the only one that matters.

Jak II is the definition of artificial difficulty.

to be fair i only played the demo of jak 3 but id still miss the world design and gameplay style of Jak 2 even if Jak 3 had good enemies.

I don’t care if it was shit gameplay, but taking down the giant Robot Spider by shooting all its legs was kino. As a kid I’d never seen something so big in a video game.

Listening to dev commentary is also interesting, it had to be hand-animated for its entire walking sequence around a lap of the desert.

How in the world do you delude yourself to think Jak 2 is better than 1? I don't understand, literally everything gameplay-wise is less fun and for the worse. The progression is less fun, Jak is insufferable and Daxter is barely carrying the game himself, Haven City is shit filled with cars that have the durability of 5000 year old paper yet you're expected to drive them at full speed, the time requirements for said car missions are unbelievably tight, enemies respawn all around you and it's impossible to actually escape them once you start an alter because they will spawn right next to you or around a corner leading to you, the checkpoints are an absolute nightmare especially during the sewer sections, and one of the worst parts is that they went from a collect-a-thon to discount R&C1. They didn't even learn the faults of R&C1 with the shooting.

That abomination can rot in the deepest pits of hell.

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Jak 3 was alright, but I'm having trouble thinking of anything it did better than Jak 2.

Well at least we can all agree that 2 and 3 are better than all the other games, right? I'll take 3 over 1 anyday.

1>3>2=X>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LF

>tfw drifting like a madman,cornering like a pro gathering blue echo boost and dashing through the course at sub light speed
JakX was fucking cash money

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I had to pull it out in my ps3. Shits just as fun. Man I forgot how fast you fly around.
I'm with ya there. I'm still wary to play the Ratchet and Clank games on PSP because of it.

1's generic but i'd say it's a bit more consistent than 3 at least.

Cheats and unlockables are the only real thing it did better. Both the actual rewards (gun upgrades, fun cheats, model viewer, and dev commentary) as well as fact that no Orbs were missable.

JakX > sonic racing transformed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any mario kart

For me its 2>1>3. Although 1 feels more comfy and i prefer using Eco as opposed to guns.

Absolutely not, 1 > 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 and if you disagree with this you need to replay 2 and actually pay attention to all the bullshit they put into it just to make it more tedious. I mean really, the first time you actually go outside if you fall down into the water at all it takes an eternity to climb back up.

Actually scratch that 1>X>3>=2

Jak 1 isnt a better version of Jak 2, they offer almost completely different experience and atmospheres so they don't scratch the same itch. You wont get satisfied by Jak 1 if you want the atmosphere and gameplay style of Jak 2, so even if in its style Jak 1 may be more competent there are still reasons to prefer Jak 2 to it.

I could have maybe forgiven Jak 2's bullshit if they had given us a proper fight with Praxis after all that build-up but nope.

You actually get a more satisfying boss with fucking Krew.

The thing is that the collect-a-thon nature of Jak 1 is superior to Jak 2's discount GTA gameplay. Jak 2 is completely unpolished and while Jak 1's on the easier and generic side it still ends up being a much better game than 2 could ever hope to be. Jak 2 does nothing right. Absolutely nothing.

>durability of 5000 year old paper yet you're expected to drive them at full speed
Switch lanes. Running people over is not an issue and guards don't matter. If you hit a wall it's your fault.
>the time requirements for said car missions are unbelievably tight
You are actually given a lot of time. Even the Erol race reverse rubberbands pretty hard.
>enemies respawn all around you and it's impossible to actually escape them once you start an alter because they will spawn right next to you or around a corner leading to you
If you are actually having trouble with random alert phases you need to be gassed. On top of that, very few missions involve you getting swarmed and they are easily handled by keeping track of the minimap and using the blaster. The only mission you have any right to complain about is the water slums escape and if you don't know how to cheese that mission for free at this point you're still fairly retarded.
>the checkpoints are an absolute nightmare especially during the sewer sections
You have exactly two missions where the checkpoints are an issue. The rest are fine if you aren't a mentally handicapped vegetable.
Hell no, retard. 2 >= 1 > 3

How about when you get a well timed boost off of spin jump, only to hit some phat ass flips off a big ass sand dune? Lordy, take me back Naughty Dog.

This simply isn't true. If it did nothing right, it wouldn't have been a memorable game to several people. It scratched an itch, thats all. If it brought nothing interesting, nobody would discuss it.

>Jak 2 is completely unpolished
>Jak 2 does nothing right. Absolutely nothing.
As someone that enjoys 1 and 2 equally, you are objectively wrong.

>Switch lanes
This doesn't do shit, especially if you're going at speed. You will either end up clipping someone in the top lane or someone in the bottom lane as you transition and the roads barely have space to accommodate for you.
>You are actually given a lot of time.
Horseshit, even if you cut all the corners any race against a person rubberbands to an insane degree and they will always be on your ass or impossible to catch up to. I can't tell you how many times I had to reset that one race vs. that one other guy just to reach first place despite constantly getting ahead of him and cutting corners. The races in the racetrack were a bit more fair due to the shortcuts but they were still not fun.
>If you are actually having trouble with random alert phases you need to be gassed.
Thanks to the ice physics on all the cars I always end up drifting into the patrol cars or slightly clipping them which causes a full alert and then I can't escape. It's either die or zone out. Yeah, you can keep track of the minimap except for the fact that they will literally spawn multiple enforcers to converge on you right around the corner, and you can't hide anywhere to prevent this. The alert may as well be infinite for how long it takes. I was never able to stop it short of death or zoning out.
>and if you don't know how to cheese that mission for free at this point you're still fairly retarded.
Why the fuck would I replay Jak 2 in the first place?
>You have exactly two missions where the checkpoints are an issue
>Getting chased underground.
>The underwater area.
>The bit at the top of the tower.
This is what comes to mind.

Go on then, what does Jak 2 do better than 1? Its collect-a-thon elements are implemented terribly compared to 1 and the only real variety with the areas happens in the underground areas. Everyone is an asshole except Daxter and Kiera. The shooting and auto-tracking enemies are less fun than spinning around fighting stuff.

>Replayed Jak II recently
>Beat street race with Errol on first try
Felt good.

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>tfw when Errol crashes and eats shit in the farmers district, allowing you to smoke his ass in the race

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The only thing we can truly agree on is that both were inferior to the original in every meaningful way. I get irrationally angry whenever I think about Jak 2's bullshit to this day, and I never think about 3 at all.

>This doesn't do shit
Oh, so you're just bad. Switching lanes is almost instant.
>someone in the bottom lane
The most you get in the bottom is a bump.
>even if you cut all the corners blahblahblah SNORT I WAS PUSHING ACCELERATE ACK ACK ACK
The race with Erol is deceptive. He rubberbands in front of you but he eats shit in the urban area. It's very easy to rocket ahead if you don't try to just hold down accelerate and cry like a baby.
>slightly clipping them which causes a full alert and then I can't escape
So you've never played the game. You can actually clip patrol cars pretty hard and not cause an alert. If you can't escape an alert then you're actually a mongoloid, especially it it's a lesser alert.
>Why the fuck would I replay Jak 2 in the first place?
I know why you wouldn't and it's because you're bad.
>escorting Vinny and his retards through the sewer
>the underwater Titan suit segment
These are the only two missions where the checkpoint system is actually shit.
>Go on then, what does Jak 2 do better than 1?
Literally everything but progression and exploration.
>judging Jak 2 as a collectathon when it wasn't even trying to be that
The absolute state of (You).
>The shooting and auto-tracking enemies are less fun than spinning around fighting stuff
That shit's not gone. It's still in the game in its entirety. In fact, comboing melee with the guns makes combat a hell of a lot better.

Jak 2 is a lot more fun than the first game.

>Running people over is not an issue
yeah who doesn't like playing their character as a psychopath? Especially when they started out in a light-hearted game.

>Jak 2 is a lot more fun than the first game.

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>moralfag
Who fucking cares? The KG are assholes and deserve die and most citizens dive out of the way. Crying about the tone shift just outs you as a söy.

The desert was kino and a breath of fresh air. I just wish yiu coukd roam without maruders throeing doodoo at you.

It's immersion breaking and poorly implemented shit.
Jak was never a psychopath.

>inventive
Nigga it was a gta3 clone

>experimented on with dark eco for 2 years straight
>part of a rebellion to usurp the throne
>works for fucking Krew
He may not have been in 1 but he's got issues in 2 and for good reason. Keep crying, söy.

>In fact, comboing melee with the guns makes combat a hell of a lot better.
Trying to melee combat in this game is a near instant death sentence, especially later in the game with the swarms of enemies. You only have 4 fucking lives.
>judging Jak 2 as a collectathon when it wasn't even trying to be that
So what was it trying to be, exactly? A GTA clone? Failed at that. A Good sequel? Failed at that. A proper dark and edgy take on Jak and Daxter? Nope, failed at that too.
Please tell me what it was supposed to be.

You now remember the turret mission in jak 2 with the krimson guards

>Switching lanes is almost instant.
Notice that "Almost" part? It's not fast enough and it always causes you to either take a decent amount of damage or the bump slows you down enough to kill any speed you had.
>The most you get in the bottom is a bump.
Except if you're in the motorcycle ones which will take immense damage on either lane at any speed. Speeders are much slower and can tank more damage, sure, but they're virtually unusable due to the slow speed.
>He rubberbands in front of you but he eats shit in the urban area.
Yeah, and then even if you're in the lead, when you get to the tight sewer area where you have to make all those tight turns he can just rocket ahead of you even if you're cutting corners. I lost so many races due to that shit.
>You can actually clip patrol cars pretty hard and not cause an alert.
Then we must have played different games because clipping them at all caused them to send the wrath of hell upon my location pretty much instantly. Even minor bumps did it.
>and it's because you're bad.
I beat the game with all the Precursor Orbs, shit just isn't a fun game which I kept trying time after time to give a chance and it just kept giving me less reasons to enjoy it. Meanwhile I've replayed Jak 1 several times because it's, shocker, an actually good game.
>Literally everything but progression and exploration.
You mean the shitty driving system where everything is on ice is good? The areas are better when they're not even remotely as varied as anything you saw in Precursor and require way more backtracking if you make a mistake? The humor is better when Daxter is the only one who makes any jokes? Jak becoming insufferable is better? The story going from lighthearted to tortured edgy shit is better? The guns being worse than R&C1's guns is better?
The only thing Jak 2 did right was the hoverboard.
>comboing melee with the guns makes combat a hell of a lot better.
Except that gets you killed near instantly. It's unusable in 2.

>3 is ruined by some of the guns being ridiculously overpowered
But muh peacemaker nuke that blinds the screen for 5 whole seconds

>>part of a rebellion to usurp the throne
you mean from the baron who is shown to be obviously evil from the very first scene we see him in, and if that's not enough has fascist propaganda spewing out all over the city at all times?
>>works for fucking Krew
We're never even shown krew doing anything bad besides making some idle threats. (until the end where he betrays you) All he has are metal head trophies. His biggest sin is just being fucking gross.

Jak isn't a psychopath ever in this series. What are you, 16?

Basado

>have no choice but to mow down civilians in zoomers to get anywhere
>this doesn't make jak look like a psycho

ok, pal.

Pretty sure it was the Dark Eco/torture that made Jak an edgelord in 2. The Eco has a negative effect so it cant all be attributed to him. I mean the moment he was reintroduced to Light Eco he even commented on its presence being reduced.

>he doesn't know how to switch hover zones
pathetic

>switching between up and down lanes
>not hitting the switch button in a perfect rhythm that keeps your jetbike wiggling in the middle lane between the upper and lower cars

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He's an edgelord, but he care about his friends and the city. He finally admits it near the end even. He isn't a ruthless psychopath.

>Trying to melee combat in this game is a near instant death sentence
Get fucking good. Shooting with the jump spin is more than enough to kill anything in the game. It's not even hard.
>A GTA clone? Failed at that.
Pretty sure it did that very well considering how hard people cry about that aspect of the game.
Not only is it a great sequel, a dark twist on the series couldn't have been done better.
>I'M SO BAD AT DRIVING BAWWWWWWWW
>which will take immense damage on either lane at any speed
Factually and provably false. Bumping does no damage to the vehicle.
>I lost so many races due to that shit.
Stop blasting the gas and let your momentum carry you around corners, retard. He literally can't keep up if you do this.
>I beat the game with all the Precursor Orbs
And? So have I. Being tenacious doesn't mean you're good.
>cars shouldn't have momentum
>the game shouldn't have challenge
>durr I'm going to compare this game to R&C again and move goalposts
We're talking about the Jak series. Stay focused, dipshit.
>Except that gets you killed near instantly. It's unusable in 2.
Factually and provably false. git gud
>actually defending Krew, of all characters
Never go full retard.
Fucking this.

>switch hover zones
>smash into another vehicle and blow up instantly
good plan

I know he isnt im just elaborating on it from what the other user said

You really did grow up with this game, didn't you? I'm so sorry, user.
If you grew up with a good game like TLP you wouldn't have turned out so edgy.

>not flexible enough to rotate
You just keep showing your pleb

>playing long enough to find exploits
What inhuman monster would force a child to play Jak 2 for so long?

I grew up with the real golden age of collectathons. Also, not an argument.
>TLP
fucking lel

Yes those that paved the way for the real grand-daddy of platformers: Jak and Daxter 1.

And to think, in another universe we got proper follow-ups.

>Bumping does no damage to the vehicle.
Except it does. Fuck, motorcycles EXPLODE if you bump into two things.
>Stop blasting the gas and let your momentum carry you around corners, retard.
What the hell did you think I did to beat him? This doesn't make it fun in any way.
>Being tenacious doesn't mean you're good.
Of course not, but treating everyone who didn't enjoy shit about the game as unskilled just makes you out to be a fanboy who can't take criticism.
>We're talking about the Jak series.
This doesn't mean shit, R&C1 did exactly what Jak 2 did with its shooting implementation and yet Jak 2 learned nothing from it despite both sharing ideas and having a friendly competition with each other yet implemented what they did in an equally awful way. I can very well complain about its implementation when we saw issues that weren't fixed at all and implemented just as badly.
>Factually and provably false. git gud
and there it is. I hope you realize we've been talking about actually spinning at an enemy and not spinning a mile away with yellow and shooting it because it seems like you've convinced yourself of stupid things.

>Jak 1
>grand-daddy of platformers
And to think, in another universe you were a stain on your parents' sheets.
>Except it does
Bumping NPCs does no damage. Pay the fuck attention to the context of what I'm saying. You are such a fucking brainlet nigger retard holy shit.
>What the hell did you think I did to beat him?
Bitch and cry until it happened by pure accident while learning nothing.
>just makes you out to be a fanboy who can't take criticism
I have many friends that don't enjoy Jak 2, or any of the Jak games for that matter. I don't call them bad. I call you bad because everything you've posted points to you being an unskilled room temperature IQ mong with learning disabilities.
>MUH R&C
They were made by completely different teams and were released within a year of each other. I'm not going to say Jak did shooting better than R&C, but I'm also not going to fucking talk about a completely unrelated game because I have no argument like you.
>I hope you realize we've been talking about actually spinning at an enemy
I'm more than aware. You can freely cancel melee into gun. It's not hard. It takes out enemies very well. If you do it and you get hit by a different enemy it's your fault for doing it in a situation that didn't call for it. git gud Now fuck off.

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Never played Jak 1 as a kid but I loved Jak 3 with a passion. Jak 2 always felt like there was something off, never enjoyed it.

Alright tell me what the best platformers are then, faggot.

>if was the first therefore it is the best hurrr

>Play Jak II
>Your skills are forged in fire by the end of it
>Jak 3 which is already significantly easier becomes a complete fucking pushover

>Jak 2 always felt like there was something off,
Like how it did neither light or dark elements well?
it just felt like a bizarre mishmash

I used to just fight metalheads with the crimson guard and see how far back I could push their lines back, I pushed them all the way back to the slums part of haven city. So much fun.

Sonic 3

>get the hoverboard at the arena
>just fuck around for an hour with it

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For once OP was not a faggot.

Cyber errol was the villain I'm pretty sure nobody wanted.

I didn't waste money on it as a child, unlike Jak 2 so yeah. It is for me

Jak 2 defenders will be the first to go on the day of the rope.

praxis was worse

You gotta admit though, Baron was a way better villain than that literal who. I genuinely don't even remember his name.

Thinking about buying a PlayStation just so I can play these games again. Some of the best games I played in my youth

>see how far back I could push their lines back
>infinitely respawning enemy

you weren't a bright lad, were you

Count Vegan

Yeah I know they re spawn but if you kill metalheads efficiently and protect the guards you can fight all the way into the slums part of the city.

reach enlightenment

I think all the ND Jak games do something unique in their own right, I personally enjoyed it more myself, but I loved driving around the desert myself. I think they're all fantastic games tho, even Jak X. A series I miss, but wouldn't want to come back with the way ND is anymore.

Why? He had a better motive for his actions. Errol was evil just to spite Jak. He should've stayed dead in 2.

The baron was a waste of a decent design, backstory and clancy brown

Seriously, I love Clancy Brown but this game somehow made him annoying as fuck.
And worst of all, the game can't decide if it wants him to be a mustache twirling bad guy, or a well intentioned extremist pushed to the brink by the metalheads.

tone was all over the place

Yellow gun
jump fire circle
Jak 2 is made easier from this and Jak 3 makes everything a joke with its second upgrade

Consider introspection
3 > 1 > 2

lurkers were a better recurring enemy than metalheads

Ratchet and Clank was a better series.

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Truth

I used to do this too. I'd love if the Jak collection got a remaster and got released on PC

They did control like shit user, but it wasn’t game breaking

jak 1 = rc1
jak 2 < going commando
jak 3 > uya

r&c wins overall for still making decent games

I loved the fact the game had a front lines thing showing how destroyed certain parts of the city was from the constant 24/7 battle.

Git Gud faggot

Jak X is equal to all of the because of how solid the driving is.

This is the definitive ranking

It was an endless source of entertainment for me as a kid. Dynamic battle system with dozens of allies and enemies on screen was pretty cool for a ps2 era game. It's probably why I love the total war series now.

>desert
BOOOORING.

Never finished it. Jak 2 was the better game.

Why do developers, and some people, think deserts are a fun setting? There is nothing there and nothing to do.

No shit, elf bowling is better than Jak 2

>I'll take OP over getting rekt every 5 seconds like in Jak 2
fucking casuals

its because of people like you that games like the Jak series don't exist anymore.

1 > 2 > X > 3 Thank you come again

Wrong. 2 had a better map. 3 is sadly smaller and empty in comparison. New Haven is nice, but it's the only nice part in a large shitshow of endless warzones.

Same. While other people were talking about the Marios and Zeldas, I was chasing down precursor orbs and shitting myself at the prospect of a fucking lurker shark.

This

You're both addled morons. What about the difficulty, the checkpoints, the fact that guns and dark Jak powers are actually useful? All of those things 3 did better.

Jak 2's checkpoints wouldn't have been as bad if you got your ammo back when you died. The Vulcan Fury would actually have been useful, and Metal Kor would have just been a boring boss instead of a terminally shitty one.

Nah, 2 > 1 > 3

3 Didn't innovate shit.

And in any other universe you're still a mistake.

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I would never replay the first game.

It is literally Poor Man's Banjo Kazooie, don't give a shit about it.

The metalhead war in Jak 2 was amazing.

Court Vegor

Fuck you like a whore.

lmao who gives a fuck about this kind of shit, are you fucking autistic?

>and it always causes you to either take a decent amount of damage or the bump slows you down enough to kill any speed you had
learn to play.

>Metal Kor would have just been a boring boss instead of a terminally shitty one.
Pssst, I'm gonna let you in on a little secret

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youtube.com/watch?v=47wQT9SIha0
I will now trigger your fight or flight response

If the baron was a fascist he would be the good guy, the guy was a commie.

I enjoy 3 because of the massive connected size of everything.
You start out in spargas, then jump islands until you get to a precursor ruin, then spelunk all the way down and around and through going through huge chambers and finally finding yourself in a massive abandoned mineshaft, going even farther through that is a precursor boss, then a huge vertical sewer system, and then finally you emerge back into haven city but its in ruins.
That blew my mind as a kid like holy hell.

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He says literally at the beginning of Jak 3 that he never gave a fuck about the people there. All he wanted as revenge.

>Jak 2 always felt like there was something off
Yeah, the fact you didn't play Jak 1 you underage moron.

Its a game about the fall of a hero, of course you didn't get it when you never met Jak during his hero's journey.

I knew about that, having to cheese a boss fight because the game is stingy with ammo for the fun weapons is bad design.

Nothing you typed made any sense.

I was watching Code Geass in 2007 while I was playing the Jak series after Yea Forums's recommendation.

Still to this day watch anime and play JRPGs, and still love Jak series.

Wrong. He said the city could rot because they were content and supportive of his banishment to the desert and being left to die. Those words are coming from a sense of betrayal. In Jak 2 he even says the cities worth fighting for. But he even decides to go back and help Haven anyways despite those words.

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doesn't make 2 bad

>He said the city could rot
Stopped reading there.

Thanks for agreeing with me.

totally fucking forgot about jak x that game was super fun shame I cant play it again

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Not hard, jak 2 was awful

How insecure are you? Half your post are underage reaction images.

And you're still samefagging as I type this shit out
The poster count did not increase after this post. You're fucking pathetic.

He's a tsundere.

>jak and daxter will have perfect emulation on RPCS3 sooner than PCSX2

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Video game waters were never and still are never the same for me. Fuck those things and fuck that game. It was my first game on the PS2 and I love it, but hatefuck it like an incompetent whore.

Oh and also fuck you

dunno what your on about i just came in the thread but i hate jak 2

He doesn't mean it, you should be able to pick up on if you're older than 16.

>have to cheat to have fun
yes, surely the design of a good game

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Buddy, I'm a whopping two of those posts, I was the guy arguing with walls of texts with the other guy and we're going round in circles with him essentially saying "Git gud" to everything. I stopped posting because we're never going to convince each other otherwise.

jak killed itself by being a tryhard edgy piece of shit

You would understand he actually meant it if you're older than 28.

your post is garbage so I made one just like yours to show you how stupid you sound

It still hurts.

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>you would understand
Stopped reading there.

Thanks for agreeing with me.

He's pissed off the city treated him like shit and the dark eco is talking. Only children take everything at face value without reading between the lines, or your actually a diagnosed autist. I mean did you stop playing the game after that? He went back to Haven City shortly after, oh boy, how serious.

>>>Kor
>those tendrils holding him helpless in mid air
>that repeated rapid rocking back and forth as Jak fucks him with gunfire
>my dick
Am... am I turning into Shadman?

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Glad you understand. Its not really common to find someone on Yea Forums to agree with you not once but twice.

Oop, for

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Both were good, but I think I enjoyed playing 2 more. 3 might be the better game and all that, but 2 felt more fun.

>I mean did you stop playing the game after that?
I did. Deserts are boring.

You would have to be an over analyzing edgy teen to believe he didn't mean it. The eco talking is his own subconscious reacting to the situation. Shame you're too young to understand a bit of real psychology.

do you realize how fucking childish you sound?

>people who are objectively right disagree with me
>it must be a samefag

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something about jak 2 and 3 designs never seemed right to me

there's only a handful that I like

>tfw you hear your heartbeat in your ears as the avatar of death approaches you

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>I did. Deserts are boring.
I agree with you there, autist.

>Deserts are boring.
You're right. They are.

It's a sign of how bad Jak 2 was when a desert is more fun than Haven City.

my game glitched and when he did his spreading AoE it was invisible for me so I had to try and beat actual tangible artifical difficulty and it made the fight feel like it was against a horrible eldritch metalhead because he was just breaking my game to kill me.
Pretty fun desu.

>people always mean what they say
hmm

oh I hate that

>Jak will never have a boss fight as fun as this again

>tfw no sequel with gol and maia returning to wreak havoc

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Source?

Because they are either boring or overdesigned and boring. Did Ashelin and Torn really need facial tattoos? Did Samos' afro really do anything beyond eliciting a mild chuckle the first time you saw it?

They do, especially when someone makes them angry.

I'm still mad they never came back

Jak 2 is the best in the series.

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I didnt agree. Actions speak louder than words and context matters which you left out. None of which makes Jak a psychopath.

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>#notalllurkers

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>300 years in a dark eco tank
What would they return as? Super AIDs Ottsels?

You have absolutely no idea how the brain works, do you?

You think there is some other entity inside of you that sometimes comes up with strangest shit, without even noticing that those are literally your thoughts?

Action are as important as words are. Words are actions by itself.

You're dumb as fuck, nigger.

I bet when your friends banter with you you take it oh a personal level.

Well lurkers, despite being 13% of the population...

PSP game was fine. Definitely not the best in the series but as far as Ratchet and Clank on PSP goes it did its job pretty well.

Probably beyond comprehension, like Giygas from Earthbound. Alternatively they broke out shortly after the first game and went underground during the Metal Head invasion.

I find it interesting how in the future Dark Eco not only exists on the surface but has been harnessed as a powersource superior to colored eco. Maybe the Acherons had something to do with it?

>big tittied ottsel Maia
We're playing with forces that we shouldn't be

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Sometimes you just want to fuck around and shoot shit

>Friends
You assume too much of me.

I knew you didn't have any because you would stop talking to you the moment they jokingly called you a retard.

youtube.com/watch?v=alnPDmcA8YQ

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them* okay enough alcohol for me time for bed

no one knows how brains work honestly

I remember they even hinted at them in the strategy guide for 3. They probably would have been in the next mainline game if Naughty Dog didn't become just an Uncharted studio.

I do

Someone refresh my memory because it's been a long time.
In jack 1 you had forests, tundras and primitive villages
And in jack 2 you're in some weird cyberpunk shithole... What the fuck happened?
Do you go to the future?

>I remember they even hinted at them in the strategy guide for 3.
The wiki says it has a "where are they now section" for all the characters

I never read that. Anyone got a link?

Buy a PS3 and put HFW on it; PS1/2/3 right there. Jak, Ratchet, Sly, most great PS2 games got HD rereleases or just a PS2 classic variant or you can make your own PS2 classic using an .iso.

>Action are as important as words are. Words are actions by itself.
Not true at all. Words can affect things but your actions will always reflect more than some anger induced banter. Please dont make fallacious points in the future.

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Objectively the worst Jak mainline in almost every way. Way too rushed and it shows.

Jak II opens with them taking a time machine in to the future.

Never played JakX ever, too afraid to play it on PS4 because it might not hold up. How is it?

Tell me the neuropathology of olfaction faggot

t. Medical student

I agree with the other user. No one knows how the brain works

Oh man thank you user. I completely forgot about sly cooper. Fuck PlayStation had some good games. Also, what’s HFW?

Elaborate

Unused music from the new Limited Run CD is published online. Art books confirms that the final boss fight in Jak 1 was supposed to be you fighting a precursor robot against Gol's robot.

youtube.com/watch?v=Qz0AUZr0hUc

Fuck meant to say that you were supposed to pilot a precursor robot in the final boss battle

Nah. I didn't really care for the car stuff, and that's like half the game. The rest of the game is just kind of boring because it's way too easy, you don't even have to aim at the enemies once you get the ricochet upgrade for your guns. The story was also pretty boring in 3 compared to 2 and the way it is confusing coming right off of 2, like there's supposed to be some comic book or another game in between to explain how you go from saving the city to getting banished from it.

>PC
What?

the only problems with playing the collection on RPCS3 is just performance issues (FPS slowdowns, spikes etc.) while PCSX2 has more specific bug issues with the eyes glitching out and some story related triggers not activating, and dev pace being slow as fuck. I would expect RPCS3 being able to acceptably play it after 1 or 2 updates

2 is immensely boring, it's just padding and padding until you finally get to the real villain: kor, for the last 20 minutes of the game

You're dumb as fuck retard, read about indoctrination.

The only thing fallacious here is your dishonest ass post. Shut the fuck up imbecile..

>he is still here saying the same lame ass post after 3 hours
holy fuck

youtube.com/watch?v=f3Rl2uFRwxk

>walking into that huge room with the giant robot being excavated

>smack one of the NPC's in the city to cause them to shoot at me
>they shoot anther PC and then they start shooting back
>cause a war in the marketplace

>2 is immensely boring
Nah 2 was challenging. 3 is boring in comparison to 2.

nice. I'll give the music a listen.

>are you fucking autistic
well he complained about immersion which makes him an immersionfag so in short yes. he is autistic

IM

Neither are you it seems. its called fucking around try it sometime retard

Interesting.
Has anyone uploaded scans of the Limited Run art books and that design bible for Jak 2, 3 - whatever it was yet?

GONNA

There's a fine line between challenge and torture.
And challenge only works well when the story is worth continuing, which it wasn't.

What's the deal with The Lost Frontier?

I never played it much, but It just seemed kinda meh. Yet I see people shit on it like it's the worst thing ever.

KILL

Nice, any ideas when that might be? I'd love to replay them

>storyfag
Yawn.

Retard

Either this game or SotC gave me fetish for riding around in deserts
Wish more games allowed me that

>implying jak 2 had any gameplay even remotely fun

Imagine how much more hate the shitty R&C PSP games would get if that was the end of the series.

Reminder that Jak X is pretty damn good and is the last Jak game. They never made another one, and don't try to convince me otherwise

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you're reddit spacing so im gonna assume you browse reddit also.
So there you have it. It's reddits fault

I am now reminded that Krew had a daughter
Fucking how did he reproduce?

I blame this orange bastard for my fear of open waters in both video games and real life. Scared somethings gonna pop out of nowhere and eat my ass

Both are mediocre games that fail the capture the success of the original.

PRAXIS

KILL

Jak 2 had enough variety for me. Forest area was comfy

GONNA

I'M

every time you go to the forest, it's like the game is reminding you that you could be playing precursor legacy instead

You have no points to make and have already conceded the non points youre making. You also have no ground to say my post is dishonest when you left out context and said “lol jak iz psychopath cuz i sed so”. I hope you leave debating to smarter people in your life user. This is not a way to go out.

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Based and LightJakpilled

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I want to fuck the monk.

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this isn't a game

A hentai game with Jak characters? It should be

never did play jakX. dose it still hold up? can you emulate it?

Why do people never included Jak 2 among Cyberpunk games lists?

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fuck you! dont make me remember it!

>Looks fucking sexy
>But it's the PS4 Versions of the games.
Talk about a double edged sword.

Too bad both are worse than Jak 1

From what I've seen of the lost frontier, it harkens back more to the precursor legacy.

Since everyone loves that game, why is the lost frontier so shitty?

R&C2 > R&C = R&C:Deadlocked = J&D > R&C3 >>>> Jak II > Jak 3

It was a ship based spinoff made by ND then handed off to an external team. The game strips back a lot of gameplay elements for reasons. Tthe story is really stupid, eco shortage at the end of the world, eco pirates, Dark Daxter, Jak getting cucked.

Gameplay is servicable besides all of the stripped out features, but they added in some "powers" like floating, or making crystals. It was a really weird fever dream type game.

I know this is not jak but, anyone else felt Going Commando was more fun to play than Up Your Arsenal?

yes

Jak threads are also R&C threads, dont worry

Sounds playable. At least once.

Jak 1 was the best and this is the ultimate truthpill
That version should be in Smash with 2/3 Jak as skins
youtube.com/watch?v=35xZDaGI8cY

>first THIRD of the game is Jak doing odd jobs for wasteland people with no grander objective
His objective was to get accepted into the settlement, since he cannot survive out in the desert, and he is banned from Haven City
He is obviously upset that he was just banished after all the shit he has done for the thankless city.

I have to agree on all the other things though, the otters were very stupid, Jak changing his mind about helping Haven City was out of nowhere, Metalheads became obsolete.

>daxter never got changed back

I wonder if that's the arena-like missions breaking the flow of the game. Deadlocked was 100% that and that was fun too.

>had no idea about this fucker
>jumping across some platforms that are in the ocean
>slip and fall into the ocean
>mfw i hear this roar and the hearbeat starts playing
completely traumatized 9 year old me. what the fuck were they thinking?

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As someone who loved 1-3 + X as a kid/early teenager, is Lost Frontier in any way worth playing? Is it even playable on PCXS2?

Nah, UYA had some nice little changes that made gameplay more fun, like fusing the swingshott and dynamo into one, and having lock strafe as an option.

i think that's more QoL than fun changes.

It's a good game that could have been great if the racing AI didn't have horribly obvious rubberbanding, the battle AI wasn't braindead, and there was 4 player splitscreen. The adventure mode is pretty long and challenging so if you can get it cheap I'd recommend it.
Tons of fun if you have someone to play it with.

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> is Lost Frontier in any way worth playing?

It's really not. There's a reason that people rarely even acknowledge its existence when discussing the series.

Based except for the first third complaint. That shit was awesome.

It can't be worse than Jak 2.

You'd be surprised.

being lame and boring is still better than "teeth-grindingly frustrating"

3 is the worst one, wtf?

the music for destroying the robot's legs was nice
game pacing felt rushed as fuck the moment you first leave spargus

I love 1 and 2 but 3 is honestly shit. Something feels way too off about it when you are playing.

>2 takes place in a concentration camp glorified

why did praxis' sword glow green

Count vulgar

>Something feels way too off about it when you are playing.
You're talking about 2 again.

3 feels much closer to the precursor legacy.
Does it matter? He never got to use it. Instead they kept giving him those retarded robotnik-style boss battles that didn't even fit his character.
And you get no satisfaction from beating him.

user stop reaching for his cock

Anons how comeback there is still almost no r34 of the jak girls? And why is there so much furry and gay stuff instead? I dont get it

I find the same frustration with Berserk, Tales, and Kingdom Hearts. Waifus abound, but it's all gay shit.

Green eco enchant to oneshot metalheads like green eco does to the dark eco infected plants.

haha this is what I ended up doing as a kid before every level. I would do that jump spin shooting thing with that and would pick up collectables all throughout. Pretty comfy imo for the dumb sequences.

Yeah but the desert was a bit more bland than the city.

I wanted to fuck those slim and tall grenade lobbing metalheads that had a lot of hp

I had it when I was a kid. It brings up them being stuck in that eco silo for centuries but thats about it.

lierally daxters first comment on her introduction

>R&C3 >>>> Jak II > Jak 3
jak 3>>Jak2>>>>>>>>>>>R&C3
R&C3 fucking blows shit right out of my ass

>That subtle implication that Ashlyn is Jake mum
Based

It's not hard to track down older titles famalam

>can't access the entire jakII kino city
>difficulty lowered way too much

No fuck off, and fuck this ugly boring desert.

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The guns are eco, didn't you ever notice they had the same colors? Yellow blue green & dark

I'm gonna FUCK Praxis!

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It would be but all the fucking car segments really brings it down for me. Loved the angel and demon forms though and the moves that come with it.

*look at the camera*

Jak and daxter was such a gift. How did this ip ended up turning into cheap GTA?

I swear to God I've seen an animated movie with little people that looked just like Jak characters but I can't remember the god damn name

Source?

It was just a cheap Mario 64/Banjo/DK64 before that. Naughty Dog are eternally trend chasers.

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>when you have no argument part 3

I'd like to see a Jak version of what rare was going for with that Banjo nuts and bolts game. Also some gun crafting and Twisted Metal type vehicle combat in for good measure. Would be nice to make your own guns and vehicles as well as all that platforming.

Modern Naughty Dog would never make this though and would make the game realistic anyways. Thankfully they never got to do their realism version of the game.

That didn't take me to anywhere helpful, just my own facebook page. Got anymore hints?

J&D was a good clone though. Jak II and 3 were just not very good games in general.

There is no perfect Jak game. Lost Frontier could have been, but Naughty Dog abandoned it. Jak 1 is too simple and repetitive and ultimately empty, Jak 2 had too few checkpoints and too much trial and error (okay only a few missions but a few too many), Jak 3 was too short, too easy in places, and option to upgrade guns via orbs OPs them too much. Lack of a big story aside, Daxter is the best non-racing entry in the franchise, prove me wrong.

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Even at full compatibility, PS3 port has glitches and little problems of its own.

Seem is a female, fuck everyone who claims otherwise.

You have transcended humanity

>mfw
youtu.be/CHQZKy4k1Mw?t=46

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move aside dome-head