Why haven't you preordered my game yet user?

If it's not being sold universally it's being sold exclusively. Nobody here is going to be hoodwinked by semantics, you fucking retard.

>If it's not being sold universally it's being sold exclusively
Not him, but that's fucking retarded. That's like saying every game that isn't on Switch is exclusive.

Exclusive implies one. It's not exclusive. The Microsoft store is not Epic Game Store. Just because they aren't selling it on Steam doesn't make it exclusive.

That's not an accurate comparison because that's hardware. If the hardware were treated the same there wouldn't be an issue. All Switches are treated identically. All Switch games you can buy will work with all Switches.

Exclusive implies something is being excluded. That's the root fucking word. Don't try to grasp straws, cunt. Obviously if it's not being sold on Steam until a year later that result means the game is exclusive; as in it's excluding Steam.

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You're still wrong. Just because it's not sold on Steam doesn't mean it's exclusive.

In that case, all PC games released from 2016 onwards are exclusive because they don't work on my 9 year old machine.

Point is, exclusive means ONE option. If it's on three different stores, it's not exclusive.

It's excluding Steam. It's exclusively sold elsewhere.

Imagine being this much of a butthurt pcbro.

No. Exclusive doesn't mean it excludes others. It means it excludes ALL others. That's the definition of the word.

>exclusive means ONE option
According to you cock sucking shills. You think there's not a problem for customers if these publishers sell their game in other places aside from Epic because you're refusing to acknowledge why people want to be able to buy it anywhere. You need to recognize why this is a problem for people and it's a problem that doesn't need to exist.

There are gabenwhores that would rather pay $60 for The Outer Worlds on Steam than get it for $1 on Windows Store. That shows how irrational valvefanboys are.

Using this obtuse interpretation of the word then you could argue that the game isn't exclusive if it's being sold on different Epic websites for different languages. They're technically different stores. Stop splitting hairs.

You could have just posted:
>>Not on Steam
>Nah. You can suck my dick though. You and the devs you're shilling for.
And there wouldn't have been issues. You would have transmitted the same message only you wouldn't have been wrong about it. By saying it's Epic exclusive (which it isn't), you made a fool out of yourself.

News flash, retard. Nobody uses the Windows store, and even if they would use it many people don't use Windows 10 because it's bloated spyware.

Google the phrase "Outer Worlds exclusive" and look at the thousands of articles talking about how it's exclusive. Specifically using the word exclusive. Shut the fuck up you boot licking shill.

>Epic exclusive
Wrong, by your own terminology this game is a Microsoft, Epic, Gamestop exclusive for 1 (ONE) year then becomes a GoG, Microsoft, Epic, Steam, Gamestop exclusive. (They are continuing to exclude outlets like Discord store, and other indie stores).

That's cause originally people did think it was Epic exclusive, but it later turned out it wasn't and you could buy it on the Microsoft store and/or Gamepass.

Stop saying fucking Gamestop. You can't buy a physical PC version of the game at Gamestop and simply play it. You activate it using an Epic account. That's a misrepresentation to try and make your assertion more legitimate. It exposes you for being a shill.

Gamestop is getting a cut of the payment. That's a huge difference from calling it an Epic game.

Feel free to link to some articles where they printed a mother fucking retraction. None of them did because the game is still considered Epic exclusive specifically because it is intentionally excluding the largest PC gaming distribution platform in English speaking countries.

Instead of admitting you were wrong about something, you decided to double down on it. Now you look doubly foolish. Shaking my head.

I don't give a plagued rat's ass who gets fleeced. Shit heads who buy this game are giving publishers permission to make customers jump through hoops and install spyware in the future.

>still calling it an Epic exclusive when it's on the Windows store.
>This braindead mutt thinks the Epic store is the Windows store

Even if they bought it on the Microsoft store? What about if they bought the game pass for it?

You're not explaining why people who write about this topic for a living call it exclusive. Selling it on the Windows store doesn't fix the problem.

That's a hoop, retard. Making this shit inconvenient for customers is not something you as a supposed customer should be supporting.

>retards think this game is only on Epic store
>retards will pay $60 for this game

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>You're not explaining why people who write about this topic for a living call it exclusive
They originally thought it was an exclusive. They didn't go back to make a retraction because they can't be arsed and I respect that cause I'm a lazy asshole myself.

And selling it on the Windows store that nobody fucking uses doesn't change the result. You're not listening to a word I'm saying because you're hell bent on defending this shit.

>I don't use it so no one uses it
lmao kill yourself valve drone. Steam is nothing more than a DRM hoop that killed off physical copies.

That's a bullshit explanation, retard.
>they can't be arsed
>I'm a lazy asshole myself.
Obviously. You don't even take a moment to think about what your financial support could be doing to the hobby you supposedly enjoy.

>That's a hoop, retard
Steam is a hoop too. I had to install it to play Civ V back in the day, which was pretty bullshit.

You say that as if Epic is any different in this regard, you fucking idiot. This is not an endorsement of Epic.

You're talking to a Valve cuck that can't even imagine a world where PC gaming existed without being chained down to Steam. Stop these evil oppressors from making you jump on hoops. Only lord Gaben is allowed to do that.

It's a hoop that people have already jumped through. Making people jump through more is less convenient; especially when you considering the act of jumping through this new hoop opens you up to data mining, identity theft, and a embarrassing lack of actual features that make the platform worth using.

You've completely gone in circles. You are nothing from a Valve drone who supports Steam DRM and their hoops that you have to jump through to get games on PCs since they've killed off all physical distribution.

Kill yourself. You are worse than Epic. You created the problem.

You're acting like Epic is better. Explain why Epic is better. What features is Epic giving customers that Steam isn't?

>It's a hoop that people have already jumped through
Yes, and now they're invested in that hoop and defending it above others. Me, personally, I want to burn all hoops. Including the one you cock-slurp.

based

I don't see a mother fucking argument. I see you trying to dismiss my points because I won't permit Epic to take my money. They're an inferior service and they're trying to strongarm me into purchasing shit. They can go fuck themselves, and you can too for thinking you can change my mind with petty bullshit like this.

>You're acting like Epic is better
I want more and more and more and more launchers to keep being made, which will hopefully accelerate us to a future where launchers stop being a thing because people have finally waken up to their bullshit.

If you support Steam, I want you to suffer the consequences.

Then you should be complaining alongside me you fucking hypocrite; not acting like Epic is the god damned future. I'd be more than happy to be able to buy the game physically and not have to deal with a fucking launcher. That would be acceptable too.

The game is not an Epic exclusive you dumb fucking mutt. No one is forcing you to buy it on Epic or an Epic key.

>Then you should be complaining alongside me you fucking hypocrite
Why would I complain alongside you when I know full well that if Epic goes down, you'll be right back to sucking Valve's cock? Who do you think you're fooling? DRM is ok when they do it, after all. Wouldn't want to devalue your 4000 "dollar" TF2 hats.

>I want more and more and more and more launchers to keep being made
Listen to yourself. More launchers is not the mother fucking problem. Nobody cares that Epic is selling games. That's fine and good. The problem you're ignoring is that they're trying to be the only ones that sell games. They'd buy exclusivity for all of them if they could swing it and become a true monopoly. A thousand launchers all with exclusive games is insanely inconvenient for customers. Kowtowing to fucking Epic isn't going to make this shit go away. It's going to solidify their position even further and drag it out even longer.

Do you really think the launchers are going to magically go away if you keep using more and more of them?

They're preventing me from purchasing it on a platform I prefer. The end result is the same. They're not getting my fucking money for this game or any game they make in the future because they decided they should be the ones who determine who gets my fucking money. Suck me dry.

More launchers hopefully accelerates us to a future with no launchers, but if it doesn't, it's still preferable because it makes you Valve cocksuckers suffer. Repent.

And I can't buy a physical PC version of Sekiro and simply play it, I activate it using a Steam account. Fuck off, shill.

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You should be complaining alongside me because we're, at the moment, agreeing that what Epic is doing isn't best for customers. You're more than welcome to complain about Steam too. I'm not telling you that you can't do that, prick.

Literally no one care that your DRM shit platform isn't included. Fuck off and die. You're platform killed off physical PC copies.

This is a delusion. Epic wants to become a monopoly. Giving them money makes that reality more likely.

No, you aren't, but you'll ignore me when you win this battle because this is the one you care about. So, instead, I want you to lose it and suffer. I spite any and all Valve cucks who let it get to this point and seeing you crying in rage that people would betray your Gaben daddy is delightful to read.

You act like I'm the only person who thinks this. Shut the fuck up, faggot. You agree with me but you can't stand it. You should be bitching about Epic too, but you're so fucking butthurt about Steam you're pretending like Epic is better.

baiting or retarded

Typical Epic shill pretending like the decisions that are worst for customers everywhere is the decision to support. I'm not fooled by your bullshit, faggot. You're an Epic shill. Pretending like you're only anti-Steam is a lie.

The game is not an Epic exclusive. Why do you keep bringing up Epic you braindead mutt. Christ kill yourself.

>think the thread will be about the actual game
>it's just epic vs steam instead
Christ almighty the both suck ass, can we move the fuck on

I'll be shilling any other launchers that have the intention of taking a stab at Steam. And guess what: I'm doing it for free. Your cries of anguish are more than enough payment.

It's intentionally not being sold on the largest distribution platform. Specifically so that Epic can take all of the profits themselves. This is an exclusive deal; as in it's excluding something. This is not mincing words. If you intentionally don't release on Steam it's explicitly for this reason; to reap the benefits of selling exclusively elsewhere.

I never pre order games (with the exception of God of War, Resident Evil 2, and Sekiro) so I don't see why I should start now

>nine posters
>70 replies

>Specifically so that Epic can take all of the profits themselves
ITS NOT AN EPIC EXCLUSIVE YOU BRAINDEAD MUTT

well since I can't play Assassins Creed on my toaster oven I guess that's an exclusive too, huh

And if you're pretending you're admitting that you're only doing it because you've got your panties twisted up over Steam it shreds your credibility and makes people ignore you. You're undermining your own bullshit by acting like you're just being spiteful. If you're a customer you should want games to be sold everywhere. You say that you want the games to be sold everywhere, even on platforms that don't have any sort of DRM. You should not be arguing in favor of games being sold exclusively on platforms with even worse DRM and even less freedom. This goes directly against your expressed desires. You're contradicting yourself because you're a braindead retard.

For the record, I would happily support this game being sold on GOG (Non-Galaxy). But it not being on Steam is based.

When the Microsoft store is a figurative drop in the bucket it's irrelevant. Just to give shills like you a talking point that it's technically not exclusive. Technicalities aren't going to change the point, retard. Epic gave the publishers a check to not release on Steam and the publishers cashed it. If Valve did this they would be under fire right now as well. But they don't do that.

Steam killed off Physical distribution. Anyone shilling for Steam is an asshat.

Explain how it not being on Steam benefits customers. Explain how limiting a customers choices benefits the customers. If you fail to give an adequate explanation to this it proves you are wrong. It's really simple to do if what you said is true. But it's not true so you won't be able to do this.

It benefits me because it means Valve cucks, the faggots that were silent as I was forced to install Steam to play Civ V, are now getting a dose of karmic justice.

I'm glad precisely because you are not being benefited.

This thread isn't people defending Steam. It's attacking Epic. In an ideal world it would be available everywhere, including physically without the need for a launcher. Acting like it being available on Steam and Epic is somehow worse than just being on Epic and irrelevant stores nobody uses requires an explanation. Clearly more choices for customers is better.

That's what I thought you mouth breathing retard. I didn't ask about your mother fucking feelings. I asked for some objectivity but you don't know what the fuck that even looks like.

There's not much to talk about. I am looking forward to playing it and trying it out. I hope based Boyarsky and Cain deliver for the fifth time in a row.

What a piece of garbage

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Seethe more, Valve cuck. Karmic justice is sweet. Suffer under the system your dear Gaben created for you.

This game is a fucking shambles...

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This thread proves that Valve drones don't care about PC gaming. They just want domination and control.

I TURNED MYSELF IN TO A SHITTY GAME, MORTY!

I'M OUTER WORLDS RIIIIIIIICK!

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You have no argument. You are a shill. Publishers who try to take away your choices do not deserve your money. You are contributing towards a future where you have no choices at all because you are retarded. Acting like you're upset at what Valve did while supporting behavior that is remarkably worse than what Valve did is insanity. You need to put your shilling back on a drawing board because it's shredded to pieces. It has too many contradictory holes. You can't defend Epic on these grounds.

How do you figure wanting a game to be sold everywhere is worse than wanting a game to only be sold on Epic and whoever Epic decides isn't relevant enough to be competition?

Kill yourself valvecuck. You killed off Physical copies. Don't even sit and and cry about not having choice.

>11 posters
>89 replies

Holy fucking shit, they weren't kidding when they said there is people GENUINELY shilling this fucking game on here. Holy shit, AHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAH

On the contrary. I want him to sit and cry. I want him to feel what I felt (although he's magnitudes more butthurt than I was)

I didn't do shit, faggot. Is Epic selling physical copies? I didn't think so. So shut the fuck up. They're worse than Steam and trying to defend them out of sheer spite is shooting yourself in the foot. You have no legitimate argument to defend Epic. You can attack Steam all you want. You're more than welcome to. I don't give a fuck if you want to attack Steam. But don't try to act like I should be okay with people holding games hostage since that's the same fucking sin you're complaining about Steam doing to your games.

>Maybe 20 posts in the thread are talking about the game, if that
I don't think you know how shilling works

>trying to defend them out of sheer spite is shooting yourself in the foot
Not the guy you're replying to, but you already wrecked havoc by allowing Steam to get away with what it did for years. Why would I not be happy that you now get to suffer the same consequences you made me suffer?

Bullshit, shill. You're defending Epic poorly.

Yes you did you stupid fucking cunt. You supported Steam and Valve and they killed off Physical copies. You are 100% to blame for the down fall of PC gaming and rise in DRM.

I don't give a fuck about your feelings. Your feelings don't control where my money goes. Just like my money doesn't control where your money goes. When I tell you about why my money isn't going somewhere it's not your right to whinge, faggot.

>"Hey this game looks pretty neat I wonder who's behind it?"

OH NO NO NO NO

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So complain about Steam. I'm not defending Steam. I'm attacking Epic. You're acting like your bullshit is relevant. It's not. You should be attacking Epic as well.

I'll just pirate it because Tim Sweeney already paid for that supposedly lost sale.

Yes you are, you are crying that the game isn't on Steam. You are fucking valve drone that buys everything on Steam. You killed PC gaming. You brought the rise of DRM.

Fuck off and kill yourself.

Too many red flags, same reason I won't be touching cyberpunk or vtmb2 until I see gameplay at release.

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But I have GOG, Origin and uPlay and can't get it on those either?

You're acting like I'm supporting the idea that the game should only be sold digitally. I'm not. I'd like it if it had physical copies as well, but obviously I don't care about that as much as you do.

HOWEVER I don't pretend to support Epic just because a game isn't being sold physically. These are two separate issues. The fact that you can't reconcile these differences speaks volumes about how mad you are about this shit.

At the end of the day you agree with me, we just differ on degrees we give a shit. You don't support Epic. You don't support Steam either. That's your right, but you're in the wrong mother fucking thread trying to specifically attack Steam when Epic is just as guilty. Go fuck yourself.

You are going to the sexism and videogames panel, right, user?

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Fuck epic and fuck the devs signing with them

lmao this autism, he hasn't made any arguments or even tried to this whole time, he's just laughing in your face because you're buttmad. Here's an argument though, you not only should be OK with platform exclusivity, you already are OK with platform exclusivity, because you're supporting it right now by claiming that Epic should fuck off and stop trying to steal market share. You don't care if a game is a Steam exclusive, implicitly endorsing platform exclusivity, in other words, you are shilling for Valve.

Fuck steam and fuck cuckbros supporting them.

YASSSSS QUEEEEEEEN

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You're wrong. I would have just as much of a problem with Valve if Valve were trying to heavy hand the industry into only selling their games on Steam. Valve doesn't do this, so I'm not criticizing them for it. Valve has a history of actively incentivizing publishers and developers to release on multiple storefronts; especially concerning VR. This course of action is more beneficial for customers. Exclusivity is not beneficial for customers.

I'll say it again, but you won't believe me. I'm not defending Steam. I'm attacking Epic. There is a gulf of difference between the two, and if you can't acknowledge that it's because you've actually drank the kool-aid and are a legitimate Epic shill.

Were where you when Civ V was exclusive to Steam? I bet you didn't care cause it didn't affect you.

That's not the Obsidian devs

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Good thing this game isn't exclusive then :^)

Did Valve pay the publishers to have the game only release on Steam? I'd like you to provide a source for this claim because it's the first I've heard of it. If that didn't happen then you don't have an argument.

Platforms are being excluded for the sake of money that go to the publishers while the customers, through their lack of choice, end up paying for with subsequent higher prices.

>Did Valve pay the publishers to have the game only release on Steam?
Now you're straight up defending Valve. You're not attacking Epic here. You're defending Valve. I caught you, Valve cocksucker.

Looks like a bad fallout 3 mod. Also epic store is cancer.

Imagine being this mad that Steam is no longer the sole platform for PC games.

yeah 1 buck, what a robbery

I'm asking you to provide proof. I'm not denying what you're saying. I want you to show me it's true. If it's true I'll reconsider my viewpoint, but I'm not going to believe it's true unless I see some evidence. You made a claim. Back it up. You gotta meet me halfway here, bud. You have no credibility. Give your statement some credibility.

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i subscribed to xbox gamepass pc.

>not paying $1 to get it on Windows store
all of you are cucks.

It doesn't matter if it's a rusty penny. If you're going to remove my choices I'm going to demand more in return; not less.

you JUST fucking said the problem with exclusion was higher prices lmao

>epic
oof

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That's how the system works. You can't make money paying for exclusivity if you're selling the game for less than what you would be earning without the exclusivity. This is not advanced economics, budro-mackenzie.

im playing metro exodus for 10 pesos, this is how you do the netflix model.

Too bad metro was pretty lame. No wonder they kept it off Steam.

Wild

im gonna find out if is good, anyway im gonna continue paying till trying outer worlds.Maybe im gonna try other games.

Valve doesn't need to pay for exclusivity, because devs and publishers are mostly fine with giving it for free. You apparently have no problem with this and are lying to yourself about it. If you really thought Exclusivity was not beneficial for consumers, you would not begrudge Epic for trying to steal market share, because the end result of this is more options for consumers, not less. You are bitching about the short term despite clearly seeing the long-term. So stop being a Valve shill, it's pathetic.

>You're defending Valve. I caught you
>stating facts makes you a valve shill
Please give evidence to Valve bribing Firaxis to make the game "Steam exclusive"

>because the end result of this is more options for consumers, not less
I agree. The other day I saw Steam games for 40$ and started crying and punching the wall. Thankfully later I went to the Epic store and saw games for $90-$110. I love the options Epic provides.

Not that guy but. What does it change you absolute fucking moron? It's one platform therefore it's exclusive to that platform. End of story, no amount of mental gymnastics will get you out of that. Just admit that you love gaben dick and be done with that

The problem I have with Epic is the act of them buying exclusivity.

>f you really thought Exclusivity was not beneficial for consumers, you would not begrudge Epic for trying to steal market share, because the end result of this is more options for consumers, not less
This is absolutely wrong. Exclusivity does not create more options. It creates less options. Acting like Epic will stop buying exclusivity if they reaches homeostasis with Steam is a fantastic pipe dream that nobody believes. Shut the fuck up already. Do not pretend like you have grounds to defend Epic. I'm not defending Steam. Get that through your mother fucking head.

A publisher deciding what platform will result in them getting the most money is one thing. A publisher getting paid to release on a certain platform is another thing entirely. You as a customer can appeal to the first example to have them release on a different storefront and if enough people agree with you they will most likely give you what you want. That can't happen with the second example because that would make them breach a contract. Obviously as a customer one of these is worse than the other, and acting like they're the same is ridiculous.

So if you preorder through that privatedivision site does it just spit a key out at you to use in the epic store?

If not for epic outer wilds would be exclusive to steam and maybe gog. But thanks to epic it will be available on Microsoft store/epic/steam and gog. You obviously don't care about choice, you care only about steam because you are a shill.

What did he mean by this?

Epic can't even afford to keep buying exclusives, this is them literally burning money in an attempt to draw traffic to their store, they've said this publicly and it's also obvious if you just rub two brain cells together, which I guess you don't have. You've been defending Steam this whole time, and you swearing up and down that you're not is not actually proof. I guess I triggered you by constantly reminding you of how you're definitely defending them, but I'm not going to stop doing it just because you tell me to, maybe you should actually stop defending them if you don't want to defend them. Just a thought.

Oh, and go back to your subreddit.

This is not an argument. It's not even true. The best outcome is for it to be everywhere. I'm not advocating that games not be sold on Epic. I'm advocating that games be sold everywhere because that increases my choices and makes my decisions more convenient. That benefits me as a customer. I an axiomatically opposed to any course of action that takes away my choices and offers me nothing in return.

Based and Rickpilled

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Epic stated months ago that they would stop buying exclusivity but the games becoming exclusive to the Epic store have not stopped being announced. I'm criticizing Epic. I always have. You're attacking Steam as though this is defending Epic. It's not. My responses to you are not defending Steam, it's illustrating how your points are irrelevant to the topic I'm discussing. You're constantly trying to make this out to be Epic vs Steam when that's not the reality. It's Customers vs Epic. If you want to defend Epic you need to come up with some sort of fucking argument that does not involve Steam because Steam is not relevant to the criticism Epic is getting at my hands.

So, you just want every game to be on steam and you don't really care if game is exclusive to it or not but you are too much of a faggot to simply say that. Gotcha

I want games I might be interested in playing released on platforms I use. The odds of this happening goes up if the game is not exclusive. This has nothing to do with Steam, you fucking retard. It has everything to do with Epic. For all you know I could be playing games on Discord or some shit. It doesn't change the criticism of what Epic is doing.

Nice. I bet you hate every developer/publisher that publish games only on steam . Oh wait you don't you fucking shill

It's ok when it doesn't affect me, sweetie. If it's an exclusive on the platform I already own, why would I be mad :^)
t steam cuck

Not buying it on Windows and not buying it on Epic store.

Maybe on Steam.

I hate publishers who take money in exchange for exclusivity. Valve doesn't pay publishers to do this so Valve is being criticized for this. Epic is. Do you think Epic should be doing this? Can you explain as a customer how you benefit from Epic limiting your choices and subsequently raising prices because they don't need to compete?

t. valve drone

quill18 here

>wanting to buy things on the windows store
really makes you think

Hey shit head, acting like a passive aggressive twerp isn't winning an argument. If you want to win you need to actually argue a point. So far this entire thread nobody has been able to convince me that Epic deserves my money, or that these developers and publishers have my best interests in mind. If you can't refute this it's because I won the argument and you're fucking mad that I made you feel like an idiot for even responding.

No reason to play this at launch. Fallout New Vegas goes from 7/10 to a GOTYAY contender when you install mods. It's inevitable that Outer Worlds will be similar although I doubt being as good as NV.

You'd rather pay Valve $60 than get 40+ games for $1. That speaks volumes about how much of a valve drone you are.

It's not very clear but I don't think so since Epic isn't mentioned anywhere on their store page. The FAQ seems to imply you get an e-mail with a direct download link.

>Pre ordering games
>Pre ordering games from devs who've taken money to avoid selling their game in their consumers preferred marketplace
>Buying Nu-obsidian garbage in general

They make up the difference selling your personal information, cuck.

Imagine being so buttblasted by Obsidian that you go and act like a retard over your misuse of the word "Exclusive" instead of accepting your mistake.
>excluding or not admitting other things.
"an exclusive focus on success and making money"
Yet I don't see people getting their pants on a twist over the literal thousands upon thousands of games available only on Steam.

Lmao, you're literally on a Windows OS right now. If they wanted your information they could have it already.

Yes I get it, no steam no buy. Steam is responsible for tens of thousands exclusive games, epic only a few(not even permanent exclusives). But you don't care that these games are exclusive to steam, exclusivity is not an issue here. You just want everything to be on steam.

Inb4 "but steam did not paid them so it's okay" kill yourself shill

>you're literally on a Windows OS right now

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Anyone supporting Steam is responsible for the genocide of Physical games. I have no pity for you.

Intentionally evading the point. The problem isn't games being in one place. The problem is the people responsible for selling those games (not making them or publishing them) deciding that they shouldn't be sold somewhere else. If you can't see the problem with this you're myopic. None of you have a fucking argument against this. Defend the act of distributors buying the rights to exclusively sell games when they had absolutely nothing to do with the development of those games. Unless you do that you're wrong for disagreeing with me. Recognize that. If you don't have an actual argument against this, it's because I'm right. You have no reason to reply to me if you're wrong.

Of course I'll be getting this Pirate Bay Exclusive user! Based Tim Sweeney already paid for my copy anyway.

BASED

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What exactly happened between the late nineties and now? Are male writers nowhere to be found, or are the not allowed to write anymore?

Women are given bullshit responsibilities in offices like HR because of their "people skills" Women heavily favor hiring other women. Office jobs become hostile for men, exacerbating the problem.

So, you don't care about exclusivity at all. You care about buying publishing rights. Why? Because it's the only way to fight steam due to network effect. It can hurt steam and you know it, hence you can't accept that method(cuz you are valve shill). Why can't you be honest and just go with steam good, rest I don't care or bad? I promise, I won't tell your Reddit friends

Your argument relies on an assumption that I'm lying to you. I'm telling you the truth. You're arguing in bad faith. You need to address my point. Defend the act as a customer. Explain how it benefits you because I can't see how it does. Tell me what I'm missing. What is it that I don't understand about how Epic buying exclusivity is good for me? If you cannot explain this, you are wrong. You're still trying to equate publishers deciding to release on platform and publishers being bribed to not release on a platform. Unless you acknowledge there's a difference you're never going to be able to win this argument because you're ignoring the central issue.

Shut the fuck up, faggot.

>Because it's the only way to fight steam due to network effect
Epic could just as easily pass the savings on to the customers to compete with Steam. Exclusivity wouldn't be an issue.

>Defend the act of distributors buying the rights to exclusively sell games when they had absolutely nothing to do with the development of those games.
This is what publishers already do.
>when they had absolutely nothing to do with the development of those games
The moment a publisher decides to grant Epic said rights to sell stuff in their store but not in Steam, nothing has changed when compared to the case I mentioned above. The moment developers decide to grant Epic said rights to sell stuff in their store but not in Steam, it's the same as if Epic had a hand in developing the game because it's ultimately the developer who makes said choice.

You have no argument.

There is no issue you retard. Epic paid exlusivity deal does not benefit me, steam not paid exclusivity does not benefit me. But you won't understand that , your issue is not with lack of choice for customers. It's about lack of steam choice, it's clear as fucking sky what is in your head. You just love gaben dick in your ass but you won't admit that

>176 replies
>29 ips
every single Outer Worlds thread has been like this. Nothing but shills.

Categorically incorrect. Not all publishers do that. Shitty publishers do that. Stop treating the PC marketplace like the rotten piss hole of the console exclusive marketplace.

>The moment a publisher decides to grant Epic said rights to sell stuff in their store but not in Steam, nothing has changed when compared to the case I mentioned above
Completely ignoring the part where they were bribed to do this. The moment money changes hands obviously a change has occurred. The customers are no longer the customers. The distribution platform is the customer. When Epic is not investing and funding these games to be made this is a problem. They're poaching these games that are already done or almost done; at the very least already funded. How many times do games that were crowdfunded and promised to be released on multiple platforms need to be sniped by Epic exclusivity for you to start giving a shit about how promises made by developers are being reneged despite the wishes of the customers?

You're the one arguing in bad faith. Not a single person said Epic Store exclusivity is good for the consumer, why would they need to argue for it? What has been argued is:

1. The game isn't exclusive to the Epic Store.

2. The natural exclusivity that comes from Steam being the only storefront that matters is also bad.

>Epic paid exlusivity deal does not benefit me, steam not paid exclusivity does not benefit me.
Games being released everywhere benefits you no matter who you are or what platforms you use. You are full of shit trying to bend over backwards to keep your asinine argument in this thread. You're still trying to make this about Steam because you have no argument. You're still trying to believe I'm lying to do because you have no argument. If you had a fucking argument you wouldn't need to pretend I'm lying; you would just prove me wrong or correct me exactly as I express myself. You lost. You will continue being the loser unless you can actually defend what Epic is doing; because I am specifically attacking what Epic is doing. This has fuck all to do with Steam.

Most of the thread is one guy obsessed with Epic, I don't think he is a shill.

You do realize that would be against steam rules right? Valve is literally not allowing to compete with them in that way.
T. Crying valve cuck

>Not a single person said Epic Store exclusivity is good for the consumer
Every single person who is responding to me as though I'm wrong is implying this is the case.

1. The game not being sold everywhere is the problem. Insisting that the game is being sold on an irrelevant store as well does not solve the fucking problem that is a result of exclusivity. The end result is the same. I'm advocating for games to be released universally. Arguing against this idea makes your perspective anti-consumer.

2. I'm not defending Steam. Steam is not relevant to my criticism of Epic. Bringing up Steam is irrelevant. It does not address my points.

1 - I am not very fond of FPS only games.

2 - I will not pay for any game in the chink store.

I might pirate it tough.

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Valve does not prohibit games from being sold elsewhere. They actively encourage it. That's why you can buy games from all sorts of storefronts, and even directly from the developers themselves if they want to sell it themselves, and activate the key on Steam. Valve does not prevent competition. Epic is trying to. You do not have a fucking argument until the day Valve cuts a check to a publisher to not release a game on Epic or elsewhere.

There are plenty of Steam games that aren't no GoG, Microsoft, or Epic. Steam is the blame for the exclusive problem.

>Categorically incorrect. Not all publishers do that.
Publishers do that, period. But you don't complain about it because you don't give a shit about store exclusivity as long as it is available on Steam.
>Completely ignoring the part where they were bribed to do this.
What a funny way to spell "making a deal".

Valve did not pay for this to happen. The responsibility for all of those individual choices belongs to all of those individual developers and publishers are you are well within your rights as a customer to withhold your money from those developers or publishers until they release their game on a platform you prefer.

Is that clear? You as a customer have the right to complain.

>Every single person who is responding to me as though I'm wrong is implying this is the case.

No it fucking doesn't. This entire argument started because you said the game is exclusive and people defended the game by saying it is not exclusive. No one defended exclusivity.

Where is your fucking argument? You're telling straight up lies about how publishers behave when everybody knows better. I specifically told you not all publishers do that because that's obvious; but you're making the absolute claim that they all do. How the fuck do you figure all of them act like that? Explain yourself. And yes, bribing can be considered making a deal, but that doesn't make any more ethical or beneficial for other parties. It's why bribery of certain people is illegal.

Buy you are lying to yourself retard. You were sucking valve dick for over 100 replies and then you all of a sudden pretending that you don't. You don't have argument other than "what epic is doing is bad for me because I use steam and I refuse to use other shit" how can I argue with that? It's clearly fucking bad for a steam drone to not have a game on steam.

If the game isn't being sold on all platforms specifically because a check was written to prevent it THAT is the problem I'm referring to. I already explained that describing it as not technically exclusive does not make this problem go away. It's ignoring the problem.

Why would I complain when I'm getting the game for $1 on Microsoft store while you have an autistic fit about $60 on Steam vs Epic.

This isn't Steam vs Epic, you shill. Shut the fuck up.

>This will be the next New Vegas!
>Made by people who didn't work on New Vegas

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Sure sounds like it. Anyone with half a braincell is pirating or paying $1. Only you are crying about Steam vs Epic.

You were the one constantly bringing up Steam a hundred times, retard. I was originally and only criticizing Epic and you shills kept trying to make it out like I was defending Steam; and now you're acting like I was responsible for that shit this whole time. Look at what I'm fucking saying because I'm typing it just for you. This isn't about Steam. It's about Epic. Argue the fucking point or admit you're wrong.

Of course I'll play your game, you fucking stupid chinks already paid for it.

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I'm not mentioning Steam at all. You are. You're crying about Steam. Constantly. Steam has nothing to do with any of this. It never did.

This entire thread is proof that you're a hypocrite. Kill yourself

You have no fucking argument, faggot. If you want to defend Epic you need to do so without mentioning Steam. If you can't do that then you're obviously wrong about the shit you want to say.

have they fired the female (((narrative designers)))) yet? If so then I shall pre order.

This game isn't an Epic exclusive. There's nothing to defend. Kill yourself

Obsidian is garbage, and has been for a long time.

>I specifically told you not all publishers do that because that's obvious; but you're making the absolute claim that they all do.
I haven't. All I've said is that publishers are able to do the thing you claim is bad.
>And yes, bribing can be considered making a deal
This is not a bribe. It's the terms of the deal. What Epic is doing isn't against the law, and every successful business makes decisions based on what's best for the business.

Games being excluded from storefronts specifically to make more money off of customers who have less choices is the problem. Explain how it being sold as it currently is is better for customers. If you can't do that then you are fucking wrong.

No one cares, fuck off and die. You've done nothing but keep alive a shill thread for over 6 hours now for the OP.

And I said not all publishers do that. I'm correct. You're incorrect. Stating that they do without acknowledging that many of them don't is intentionally trying to imply that they all do which is incorrect. You have no reason to try to correct my statement if you agree with it you fucking moron.

I'm aware that what Epic is doing is legal. This isn't a problem of legality. Did you see me fucking mention anywhere that what Epic is doing is illegal?

MAKE A FUCKING POINT.

I agree less choice is a problem, but it's not "technically" not an exclusive, it's just not an exclusive. If Epic is the problem, you can easily play the game without giving them a cent.

Pretty sure they're gonna use that Epic money to hire her an assistant if anything.

That's what I fucking thought you retard. You have no argument and you got put in your fucking place. Stay down there in the dirt where you belong you piece of shit. You don't have the right to try and reply to me as though I'm wrong if you don't have the cerebral capacity to hold a god damned conversation without running away like a pussy.

I'll cry about steam

And then pirate the game

L M A O Imagine being this mad to write up a post like that. Fucking retarded valve drone.

>I agree less choice is a problem
Then you have no reason to reply to me. Obviously. As a customer you should clearly advocate for decisions that benefit you, and criticize decisions that don't benefit you. That's what I'm doing. You can understand why I am so hostile to people who disagree with me because they're acting against their own interests if they are a customer.

Imagine having no argument in this elementary discussion about how stupid it is to support companies that want to take your choices away.

I'm not buying from Epic, retard. Christ you are a retarded valve drone that probably thinks valve destroy physical copies was a good thing.

>I'm not buying from Epic, retard.
Neither am I. You have no reason to respond to me if you agree with my sentiments. But you did, for hours. So clearly you're full of shit.

What's the point even? There is none other than you being angry that game X won't be on steam
>You should use keys to sell your game on other stores in a similar way to how you sell your game on Steam. It is important that you don't give Steam customers a worse deal.

>It's OK to run a discount on different stores at different times as long as you plan to give a comparable offer to Steam customers within a reasonable amount of time.

Valve is clever as fuck. They do not allow to compete with them on prices, they have full control over supply of keys. This is imaginary competition to dodge antitrust law. Best part is, retards believe that a company is encouraging true competition. Like, how stupid can you be to believe that

>her
them

Yeah you're a fucking valve drone that wants to only buy from Steam because you're that retarded.

Any reasonable consumer would pirate or go for the cheapest deal which is Microsoft store + fake information and prepaid visa card. Advocating for anything else shows you are nothing but a valve drone that wants Steam DRM up your ass at a premium price.

I don't see how your post is supposed to be defending what Epic is doing. You need to defend Epic. That's what this argument is about. Understand those posts are responses in order to help you understand that the criticism of Epic has nothing to do with Steam. It is to dismiss your points about Steam because they are irrelevant. You need to stay on topic. You need to explain why you think Epic preventing games from being sold elsewhere is good for customers.

That's pretty much my reasoning with Epic Exclusive games.

I'm not fucking anyone when pirating, since the chinks have already paid for my share.

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I refer to all objects as she/her, thanks for understanding.

Your bullshit has nothing to do with Epic; it's just you being assmad that people aren't sucking Epic cock. Reasonable customers want more choices; not less choices. Reasonable customers want better prices; not worse prices. The reason exclusivity is economically viable in the first place is because with control over supply you can control the price more closely to maximize profit. You're not incentivized from outside sources to list competitive prices because there is no competition for that product. In other words exclusivity always results in higher prices. That's the point. That's why these publishers are getting a check in the first place. A huge check by the way. Millions of dollars. The only way a check that large would be written is if the profits from the venture would result in at least that expected amount.

CUSTOMERS ARE THE ONES MAKING UP THAT DIFFERENCE.

If a viral marketer thread goes to the bump limit i've lost faith in Yea Forums.

Multiple female narative designers have infested obsidian. not just 1.

> Reasonable customers want better prices; not worse prices.
Pirate: $0
Microsoft: $1

You have no come back to this. Your entire post history is a zealous crusade again Epic because of your irrational love for Steam. Both of which have HORRIBLE prices and DRM to boot. You don't care about the consumer, you never did.

The art style and UI looks terrible. That's why.

>I don't see how your post is supposed to be defending what Epic is doing. You need to defend Epic. That's what this argument is about.

What is wrong with you. Show me a single post in this thread that says Epic exclusivity is a good thing.

I pirate too, idiot. But this discussion isn't about piracy. It's about Epic's decisions. You're trying to change the subject because you have no argument against what I'm saying.

I can pirate it guilt free since my free copy was already paid for.

Well the hundred posts getting bent out of shape when I said I didn't like Epic buying exclusivity begs to fucking differ.

Epic is not preventing games to be sold elsewhere. They are preventing them to be sold on steam. You prolly don't know that, because you care only about steam.

> Reasonable customers want better prices; not worse prices.
> Reasonable customers want better prices; not worse prices.
> Reasonable customers want better prices; not worse prices.

You said this. You're entire argument is invalid. The consumer has plenty of choices if they are logical and want the best deal. Only retards like you complain because you have brand loyalty.

Pirate $0
Microsoft Store $1

>Epic is not preventing games to be sold elsewhere
Yes it is. It literally is.
>They are preventing them to be sold on steam
They're doing this too. But not only this.

But user, outer wilds is less exclusive than 99% of steam games. Are you sure you are on the right side?

Again, the argument started when you said the game was Epic exclusive and people corrected you, probably because they don't like Epic exclusivity either.

You're bringing up one example as it if solves the problem for all of the games. Obviously I pirate games if I want to. Not all games are available for $1. You're not making valid arguments here. You're not defending Epic. I'm attacking Epic. If you aren't going to defend Epic then you have no reason to reply to me because you agree with me.

Shut the fuck up, faggot. The problem is publishers taking money to release on certain platforms and not others. The problem is not publishers deciding on their own how they would like to distribute their game.

We're talking about Outer Worlds. This is an Outer Worlds thread. Stop moving the goal posts you fucking loser. You're trying to find any excuse to shitpost about Epic because of your irrational love for Valve.

Yes, this guy is pretending and he's actually retarded as well. Its pretty obvious.

As for everyone else, hes actually talking about a game with a similar name that is an EGS exclusive, "The Outer Wilds".

Look at the op you fucking faggot. You can't say what you just said without being paid to act like that, there is no fucking way

And I stipulated that a game specifically excluding certain storefronts has the same result as being exclusive if the storefronts being excluded include the ones you would prefer to use. A game being sold on two storefronts you don't use is functionally identical to being exclusive to one storefront you don't use. The existence of a second store you don't use doesn't make the problem of selling or buying exclusivity disappear. Do not try to obfuscate the issue by claiming it's a technically not exclusive despite the distributor's clear wishes to prevent competition; and the prevention of competition is the behavior that is harmful to customers and obviously what I as a customer have a problem with.

But they are deciding on their own either way . Are you retarted or smth? Are you getting paid in steam cards for being a nigger?

The game is being prevented from being sold on Steam until a year later. This is a clear example that you're wrong. Epic is specifically preventing this from happening.

So you don't have an argument about what Epic is doing. I'm criticizing Epic; not the publishers of Outer Worlds. There is a difference between these two, but you can be forgiven for this misunderstanding since they're in bed together.

So a game is not exclusive if it's only on steam. But it is exclusive if it's everywhere else but not on steam.

You're not just a customer, you're a steam customers. Nothing more nothing less, kill yourself shill

What's the fucking point of all this anyways? We literally have retards here spinning shit around: Steam is doing exclusives not Epic!

Like anyone would believe that shit, but there's like 99 chinks on the internet for every sane person, you guys won't win this shouting match.

I'm convinced the shitposter is OP trying to keep his thread alive.

Retard. Do you understand the concept of paying somebody to do something they wouldn't otherwise do if not for the money? They wouldn't have needed to give the publishers money if the publishers planned on excluding other storefronts already. This cannot be strictly considered the publisher's decision since their decision was compelled with money. It's just as much Epic's decision now since they're the ones with their hands on the purse strings. Considering they had nothing to do with making the game I'm of the fucking mind they shouldn't have any say on how that game is fucking sold.

Yes sir! I am so happy to use Epic Game Store. Silly me though, I already pre-ordered and I ended up buying another copy after reading your post. So now I own it twice, oh well. It's a small price to pay to support developers and publishers who really care about the gaming community.

Thanks Epic and Obsidian for caring about the fans so much to create such a great game!

Stop bringing Steam into this you fucking retard. You need to argue the fucking point; not pretend I'm defending Steam so you have an excuse to dismiss the shit I'm telling you. You have no argument.

This entire thread is a psyops to frame steam users as irrational inane shitposters. Sad!

Suck my dick, faggot. You don't have a single post to defend Epic. All you want to do is cry about Steam to pretend like the criticism against Epic isn't legitimate.

So you care only about steam afterall. Weird, I thought you were all about competition and attacking epic from orrventing but apparently orrventing just a shill. I bet you would love a world with steam being the only pc storefront, it would be okay with you. Actually it would be perfect for you, right? No one would need to pay anyone for publishing rights with only one store afterall, fucking shill

Thanks for proving my point.

Why not? It ties right into your Xbox account. Windows 10 is also the best OS they've had since xp

>that one psycho steam faggot is still at it
This is amazing

Imagine loving Gabe SO much, that if you can't give him money for other people's games you get mad. It's all digital media anyways, just get it for a dollar with Microsoft you valve cucks.

This was an example to help you understand that what you claimed was incorrect. You needed an example to be proven wrong, so I gave you the most obvious example that you already know about so you have no excuse to dismiss it. The game is also not being sold on several other storefronts. It's only being sold on two, and one of those is negligible.

Understand this. I don't have a problem with Epic existing and selling games. That's good. That's better for everybody. More choices is better.

My problem is Epic trying to dictate that games can't be sold elsewhere. If Valve did this I would be criticizing Valve of doing this just as feverishly because Valve had nothing to do with funding or developing those games. It would be different if Epic had a hand in actually creating or funding those games that would otherwise not exist without that funding. That would be considered a first-party exclusive and that's not something I have a problem with. If they took the risk and put their money on the table before the game was made then they have earned the right to sell it wherever they want. The problem is games are being poached and made exclusive to the Epic store when they're very far into development. In many cases after these games have already been listed on other storefronts. This is misleading to customers, and bait-and-switch shit like this should not be given a pass by anyone.

Any criticism of epic is just as right being used against steam.

It's a slippery slope and there's two ways it can go, we'll have shops and launchers for literally every dev, or Microsoft will regulate it on its software and make it so you have to use a windows launcher on windows and ban other services.

I don't see you coming up with an argument. I see you ran away from the argument because you're too stupid to keep up.

You have to remember this board is loaded with /x/ tards who think Windows 7 is the only Windows that doesn't spy on you and purposefully avoiding security updates is a smart thing to do.

Jokes on them. Only Windows 10 has the Rizen scheduler patch to make Zen2 CPUs perform like they should whereas previous Windows were bias toward Intel.

>preorder
literally why
there is no fucking reason

Wrong. I'm specifically bringing up a problem that Epic is starting. Epic is the only company doing this in the PC marketplace.

That's stupid, the US government will rip Microsoft apart AGAIN if they try that shit.

Yes, epic is the only one who is trying to compete with steam. We know you don't like that, fuck off to steamdit already gaben cuck

They're actively trying to avoid competition with Steam. Competition is selling the same products at the same time. Do you disagree?

Shut the fuck up, faggot.

Microsoft never was ripped apart by the antitrust laws. They settled out of court and it was a slap on the wrist at most.

>leonard boyarsky
last thing this guy was in charge of was the story and the "rpg elements" of diablo 3. his name don't mean much anymore.

>Competition is selling the same products at the same time.

PhD in mental gymnastics, minor in sucking gaben dick.

Fucking retard, I bet you think coca cola is not competing with pepsi because "they are not the same".

So, you are not denying that you are a valve shill anymore?

and the last thing Tim Cain worked on was Wildstar?

lol, you people are giving these goons too much credit

Thank god, those were expensive as shit to import

Only obsididrones praise them. Journos are already calling Outer Worlds the successor to Fallout New Vegas. You can't make this shit up.

When you're discussing individual stores that either sell one or the other but never both at the same time, that is avoiding competition. But this isn't even an accurate comparison because video games being sold digitally are not treated the same way as physical goods in a physical location.

You know that Epic is avoiding competition. They are competing with Steam in the sense that they are competing over customers and are different companies but they are avoiding competing over products which the customers purchase and ultimately means they're not competing. This is not mental gymnastics; it's opening your eyes and looking at things realistically. If you need an example to illustrate why this isn't competition you just need to change the numbers. Imagine is Epic buys the rights to sell every video game from here on out exclusively in their store and Steam can never sell any game again because they're never given the rights to. Would you consider this Epic competing with Steam still? Or would you consider this a monopoly? Because that's how business practices like this are employed. They're used by companies to prevent competition and become or maintain a monopoly. When you are preventing a company you are competing with from being able to do their business you are preventing competition.

Epic is the only company in the PC game distribution marketplace that is actually preventing other companies from selling products they would otherwise sell. Epic deserves to be criticized for this. And you should shut the fuck up about shit you don't understand.

You can tell he's a valve drone because the only store prevented is steam.

It's an example, retard. It's there to help you understand.

cry more bitch

You don't have an argument. I win by fucking default.

You already lost, valve drone. Tim won, again, and will continue to win more games to Epic. Keep crying bitch.

That's not a fucking argument. Pretending like you've changed my mind is enough to make you believe it, huh? It's that easy to make you believe shit that's untrue? Your life must be great if you can thrust yourself into a fantasy world with such ease. Faggot. Sucking on Epic dick is fine if you have a good reason to, but you've got shit. Epic gives you nothing. They're trying to fuck you over and you're defending them on Yea Forums without even a single rational argument. Shameful.

whaaaa
whaaaaaaa
cry more bitch

Yes yes steam good, gaben dick yummy. No one can compete with steam with regular means due to network effect, remember google+ vs Facebook? The question is, why do you believe steam being basically monopoly is good for gaming industry other than "I want to have every game in one place" shit?

The wailing of a retard that lost an argument. You got scared by a few paragraphs and now you act like an infant. Fake mockery only works when you're correct.

How does it taste? Is it really that big?

What's that? I can't hear you over the crying and gaben's dick shoved deep down your throat.

I'm not defending Steam, retard. This thread isn't about Steam. My points have nothing to do with Steam. My argument has nothing to do with Steam. My criticism has nothing to do with Steam. Get the fuck over Steam and look at my god damned points. This is about Epic. Argue the points.

Where's your argument, faggots? If you want to defend Epic here's your chance. I'm listening. Where are your points? Why is Epic good for taking your choices away?

Stop avoiding the point. This is not about epic, this is about steam. My argument had nothing to do with epic. My criticism has nothing to do with epic. Get the fuck over epic and look at my god damned points. This is about steam. Argue the points.

If game isn't on steam or gog, pirate. I don't care about Windows Store/Microsoft game pass whatever.

Where's your argument, faggot? If you want to defend stean here's your chance. I'm listening. Where are your points? Why is steam being monopoly good for you?

That's what I thought you intellectually bankrupt shill. Mockery only works when you're correct.

Tim Sweeney already bought my copy for me, so I can in good conscience pirate the game when it comes out.
Thanks Tim, I don't have to spend any money now!

see
and

It has DRM so it'll never be on GoG unless Obsidian gives up on the DRM. GoG has a strict no DRM rule.

You were literally proven to be wrong over a 100 times in this thread. You just can't see that due to gaben sperm in your eyes the only thing left is to laugh at you

Proven wrong about what? That Epic preventing games from being sold on other storefronts is bad for customers? Because that was my original point. Feel free to summarize how this is wrong. Explain to me how that is wrong. If it happened a hundred times it should be a simple matter of posting it or linking to a one of a hundred times where this was explained.

If you can't do this it's because I'm right and you're wrong. You're also full of shit because I'm not some idiot who just walked into this thread. I'm literally the person who was here from the beginning. I've read every post. Nobody said shit contrary to what I said. Everybody reluctantly agreed with me. You're just being a petulant brat who can't admit he's wrong when there's literally no punishment for being wrong. Grow the fuck up some time.

They are not preventing games to be sold on other storefronts. Example in op. You are wrong.
What now faggot? How much is gaben paying you btw? Is 5 hours of being a corporate shill enough for 0.05$ steam card?

>They are not preventing games to be sold on other storefronts
Yes they are. You are legitimately wrong. Examples of places it is being sold is not evidence that it is being sold everywhere. The largest example that you are wrong is the fact that the game will not release on Steam until a year later. You are literally wrong. Epic specifically paid to prevent Steam from selling the game until a year later. This is not something I'm making up. This literally happened.

You have no argument if the best you can come up with is a straight up lie. You already know it's a lie because you're suffixing your bullshit talking about Valve because you already acknowledge the example I'm going to bring up to prove you wrong and despite this knowledge you still can't help but post it. You just can't help yourself. You can't shut the fuck up when you're wrong, you need to continue embarrassing yourself because you're terrified of not getting the last word.

Here's your opportunity to get the last word, retard. Let's see what you've fucking got. Better make it good for all of the 0 people still in this shit thread, shill faggot.

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And it comes out again. The valve drone exposed.

So you agree with me. They are not preventing games to be released on other storefronts, they are preventing them to be released on steam day one. Was it that hard faggot? This whole thread exsist because you can't live without steam

steam is a storefront reddit

The Daedra aren't real, Toddy

Damn this batch of shill they hire more than one people You degenerated loser should just kill yourself

>shill thread almost expires on page 10
>bumped by someone who can't speak English
Not very clever.

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